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DanicaFan
11th August 2010, 05:21
Race #23 of 35

Race - Carfax 250

Location - Michigan International Speedway

Date - Saturday, August 14th

Time & TV Schedule - 1pm Eastern - ESPN

Course Type - 2 Mile Oval

Distance - 125 Laps / 250 Miles

Practice Sessions - Thursday, August 12th - 9am & 1pm Eastern - Friday, August 13th - 2:30pm-3:30-pm Eastern

Qualifications - Saturday, August 14th - 10am Eastern

DanicaFan
11th August 2010, 05:28
Here is the entry list at this time...

1. #00 Ryan Truex
2. #1 Ryan Newman
3. #01 Mike Wallace
4. #04 Jeremy Clements
5. #05 Willie Allen
6. #6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr.
7. #7 Danica Patrick
8. #07 Danny Efland
9. #09 John Wes Townley
10. #10 Taylor Malsam
11. #11 Brian Scott
12. #12 Justin Allgaier
13. #15 Michael Annett
14. #16 Colin Braun
15. #18 Kyle Busch
16. #20 Joey Logano
17. #21 Morgan Shepherd
18. #22 Brad Keselowski
19. #23 Robert Richardson Jr.
20. #24 Eric McClure
21. #26 Brian Keselowski
22. #27 TBA
23. #28 Kenny Wallace
24. #32 Reed Sorenson
25. #33 Kevin Harvick
26. #34 Tony Raines
27. #35 Jason Keller
28. #38 Jason Leffler
29. #40 Mike Bliss
30. #43 Chase Austin
31. #49 Mark Green
32. #56 Kevin Lepage
33. #60 Carl Edwards
34. #62 Brendan Gaughan
35. #66 Steve Wallace
36. #68 Carl Long
37. #70 Shelby Howard
38. #73 Derrike Cope
39. #81 Michael McDowell
40. #87 Joe Nemechek
41. #88 Elliott Sadler
42. #89 Johnny Chapman
43. #98 Paul Menard
44. #99 Trevor Bayne

DanicaFan
11th August 2010, 21:25
Danica is driving a special Hot Wheels paint scheme car this weekend at Michigan. Here is what the car will look like..

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/DanicaRules/DanicaHotwheels.jpg

DanicaFan
12th August 2010, 21:37
Practice Session 1 Results..

Rank / Car# & Driver / Speed / Lap Time

1. #60 Carl Edwards / 178.103 / 40.426
2. #33 Kevin Harvick / 177.932 / 40.465
3. #98 Paul Menard / 177.130 / 40.648
4. #20 Joey Logano / 176.787 / 40.727
5. #38 Jason Leffler / 176.268 / 40.847
6. #22 Brad Keselowski / 176.087 / 40.889
7. #18 Kyle Busch / 176.069 / 40.893
8. #16 Colin Braun / 175.811 / 40.953
9. #88 Elliott Sadler / 175.674 / 40.985
10. #99 Trevor Bayne / 175.520 / 41.021
11. #32 Reed Sorenson / 175.507 / 41.024
12. #6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. / 175.417 / 41.045
13. #87 Joe Nemechek / 175.370 / 41.056
14. #1 David Stremme / 175.161 / 41.105
15. #15 Michael Annett / 174.953 / 41.154
16. #00 Ryan Truex / 174.723 / 41.208
17. #12 Justin Allgaier / 174.115 / 41.352
18. #10 Tayler Malsam / 174.111 / 41.353
19. #62 Brendan Gaughan / 173.905 / 41.402
20. #66 Steve Wallace / 173.707 / 41.449
21. #11 Brian Scott / 173.118 / 41.590
22. #81 Michael McDowell / 172.790 / 41.669
23. #7 Danica Patrick / 172.699 / 41.691
24. #70 Shelby Howard / 172.294 / 41.789
25. #01 Mike Wallace / 171.862 / 41.894
26. #34 Tony Raines / 171.482 / 41.987
27. #40 Mike Bliss / 171.396 / 42.008
28. #09 John Wes Townley / 171.302 / 42.031
29. #23 Robert Richardson Jr. / 171.249 / 42.044
30. #04 Jeremy Clements / 171.001 / 42.105
31. #05 Willie Allen / 170.418 / 42.249
32. #24 Eric McClure / 169.476 / 42.484
33. #73 Derrike Cope / 169.432 / 42.495
34. #49 Mark Green / 168.982 / 42.608

DanicaFan
12th August 2010, 21:59
Results of Practice Session 2..

Rank / Car# & Driver / Speed / Lap Time

1. #33 Kevin Harvick / 177.205 / 40.63
2. #18 Kyle Busch / 175.867 / 40.94
3. #20 Joey Logano / 175.678 / 40.98
4. #22 Brad Keselowski / 175.490 / 41.03
5. #16 Colin Braun / 175.486 / 41.03
6. #60 Carl Edwards / 175.379 / 41.05
7. #38 Jason Leffler / 175.345 / 41.06
8. #88 Elliott Sadler / 175.281 / 41.08
9. #99 Trevor Bayne / 175.059 / 41.13
10. #98 Paul Menard / 174.982 / 41.15
11. #15 Michael Annett / 174.961 / 41.15
12. #6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. / 174.681 / 41.22
13. #12 Justin Allgaier / 174.647 / 41.23
14. #00 Ryan Truex / 174.575 / 41.24
15. #87 Joe Nemechek / 174.478 / 41.27
16. #1 Ryan Newman / 174.338 / 41.30
17. #66 Steve Wallace / 174.330 / 41.30
18. #32 Reed Sorenson / 173.808 / 41.42
19. #62 Brendan Gaughan / 173.796 / 41.43
20. #10 Tayler Malsam / 173.569 / 41.48
21. #70 Shelby Howard / 173.244 / 41.56
22. #40 Mike Bliss / 173.198 / 41.57
23. #11 Brian Scott / 172.641 / 41.70
24. #04 Jeremy Clements / 172.039 / 41.85
25. #73 Derrike Cope / 171.805 / 41.91
26. #7 Danica Patrick / 171.641 / 41.95
27. #09 John Wes Townley / 171.433 / 42.00
28. #01 Mike Wallace / 171.359 / 42.02
29. #43 Chase Austin / 170.620 / 42.20
30. #35 Jason Keller / 170.402 / 42.25
31. #81 Michael McDowell / 170.326 / 42.27
32. #23 Robert Richardson Jr. / 170.032 / 42.34
33. #05 Willie Allen / 170.028 / 42.35
34. #49 Mark Green / 169.823 / 42.40
35. #34 Tony Raines / 169.256 / 42.54
36. #24 Eric McClure / 169.006 / 42.60
37. #27 Josh Wise / 168.947 / 42.62
38. #21 Morgan Shepherd / 167.981 / 42.86
39. #68 Carl Long / 167.946 / 42.87
40. #56 Kevin Lepage / 167.836 / 42.90
41. #26 Brian Keselowski / 167.282 / 43.04
42. #89 Johnny Chapman / 165.803 / 43.42
43. #07 Danny Efland / 161.609 / 44.55

DanicaFan
12th August 2010, 22:05
Here is a picture of Danica with her car..

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/DanicaRules/danicahotwheels1.jpg

TURN3
13th August 2010, 17:21
Here, I'll post to your own personal thread so you feel like you have friends or something. What is the record for most consecutive posts to your own thread? Weird, weird, weird.

Oh, and your girl Danica still sucks. Too bad that sweet looking ride is stuck with her this weekend.

harvick#1
13th August 2010, 17:49
hey Danica is in the top 30, ahead of all the Start and Parks. although there are still around 10 cars in front of her that are sponsorless underfunded teams. wow, big congrats.

luckly, I wont be bothered watching Nascar this weekend, I'd rather watch paint dry :D

beachbum
13th August 2010, 18:25
hey Danica is in the top 30, ahead of all the Start and Parks. although there are still around 10 cars in front of her that are sponsorless underfunded teams. wow, big congrats.Yeah, and driving for the team that dominated at Daytona in the first race for the new car. She is right where she has been at every other Nationwide race, running with Mike Wallace on a team just one tiny step up from start and park and about even with John Wes Townley.

MD24
13th August 2010, 18:33
Here, I'll post to your own personal thread so you feel like you have friends or something. What is the record for most consecutive posts to your own thread? Weird, weird, weird.

Oh, and your girl Danica still sucks. Too bad that sweet looking ride is stuck with her this weekend.

Put him on ignore and spare us your crap

Lee Roy
13th August 2010, 20:14
Put him on ignore and spare us your crap

Agree.

Not sure what's worse, Danica Patrick coming to NASCAR or all of the open wheel fans that show up with her.

beachbum
13th August 2010, 20:46
Agree.

Not sure what's worse, Danica Patrick coming to NASCAR or all of the open wheel fans that show up with her.Don't blame me. I follow all types of racing - 2 and 4 wheels, but I usually hit the mute when the they gush all over the "Princess" regardless of the series

TURN3
13th August 2010, 23:40
Put him on ignore and spare us your crap

Are you kidding me!? His comedy is the most exciting thing going in racing today. You don't like it? You put me on ignore...pretty hypocritical don't you think? The last thing I give a crap about is a couple of guys with 2 first names telling me what is appropriate and what isn't.

slorydn1
14th August 2010, 00:22
Ok y'all, let's have a couple of :beer: 's and chill out...

She ran halfway decent today and Speed didn't ram her down our throats. Unfortunately DSPN probably won't let us off so easy this weekend....

Danicafan is entitled to gush all over his driver as much as he wants, just as it is my right to push Harvick....difference is Harvick has actually done something in his career, but that's ok though.

I'm sure I just irritated a JJ or Jeffro fan out there somewhere becuse their drivers are 4 time cup champions and mine is only a 2 time nationwide champion, but hey, he is leading the cup points now, isn't he....

Point is everyone is entitled to follow their driver, and the rest of us are free to heckle everyone else's choice of drivers, Just lets not got personal about it, ok?

Damn, look what y'all made me do; my :beer: got warm typing this mess, gotta go crack open another one :D

MD24
14th August 2010, 01:25
Are you kidding me!? His comedy is the most exciting thing going in racing today. You don't like it? You put me on ignore...pretty hypocritical don't you think? The last thing I give a crap about is a couple of guys with 2 first names telling me what is appropriate and what isn't.

So DF is slightly delusional about his driver, but that's no reason for all your personal attacks.

TURN3
14th August 2010, 01:39
So DF is slightly delusional about his driver, but that's no reason for all your personal attacks.

There weren't any personal attacks, only stated the facts man, just the facts...along with my opinion of a sweet looking ride and a driver that doesn't belong in it! Believe me, these forums were much less colorful without him when we ran him off last year. He IS delusional about his favorite driver and probably a lot of other stuff too...that is what makes being around here so much dog gone fun. It's all good, I accept your apology.

I do have to admit, I didn't realize the Danica was in this weekend so I'm excited to see her fail again albeit from the sportsbook at Mandalay Bay. MIS is one of my favorite tracks too. I'm sure the guys from the South and Southeast have plenty of cool tracks but I grew up literally at the mid-point between MIS and IMS. Nothing like walking that old tunnel and coming up in the middle of grass out by S/F line at MIS...great place.

MD24
14th August 2010, 01:46
It's all good, I accept your apology.

What apology? What the heck are you on tonight :rotflmao:

TURN3
14th August 2010, 02:25
What apology? What the heck are you on tonight :rotflmao:

You're apologizing, I know you want to...you can't hide it.

DanicaFan
14th August 2010, 17:18
Brad Keselowski takes the pole for the race with a lap time of 40.10 seconds and a speed of 179.556.

DanicaFan
14th August 2010, 17:42
Unfortunately, Danica didnt have a good qualifying session but hey, she can make it up during the race.

Here is the starting line-up with thier speed...

1. #22 Brad Keselowski - 179.556
2. #00 Ryan Truex - 178.625
3. #16 Colin Braun - 178.244
4. #38 Jason Leffler - 178.108
5. #1 Ryan Newman - 178.020
6. #6 Ricky Stenhouse Jr. - 177.980
7. #12 Justin Allgaier - 177.870
8. #99 Trevor Bayne - 177.362
9. #20 Joey Logano - 177.043
10. #18 Kyle Busch - 176.869
11. #98 Paul Menard - 176.843
12. #11 Brian Scott - 176.743
13. #32 Reed Sorenson - 176.384
14. #60 Carl Edwards - 176.048
15. #33 Kevin Harvick - 174.766
16. #62 Brendan Gaughan - 174.605
17. #15 Michael Annett - 174.562
18. #87 Joe Nemechek - 174.254
19. #10 Tayler Malsam - 174.115
20. #26 Brian Keselowski - 174.010
21. #09 John Wes Townley - 173.783
22. #66 Steve Wallace - 173.716
23. #88 Elliott Sadler - 173.695
24. #05 Willie Allen - 173.548
25. #35 Jason Keller - 173.427
26. #01 Mike Wallace - 173.327
27. #56 Kevin Lepage - 173.131
28. #49 Mark Green - 173.127
29. #04 Jeremy Clements - 172.496
30. #70 Shelby Howard - 172.488
31. #68 Carl Long - 172.339
32. #73 Derrike Cope - 171.940
33. #7 Danica Patrick - 171.916
34. #40 Mike Bliss - 171.797
35. #43 Chase Austin -171.637
36. #27 Josh Wise - 171.596
37. #34 Tony Raines - 169.747
38. #81 Michael McDowell - 168.939
39. #24 Eric McClure - 168.240
40. #21 Morgan Shepherd - 167.801
41. #23 Robert Richardson Jr. - 164.839
42. #28 Kenny Wallace - 163.919
43. #07 Danny Efland - 165.612

beachgirl
14th August 2010, 19:03
Unfortunately, Danica didnt have a good qualifying session but hey, she can make it up during the race.



Make it up to where? 32nd?

If she moves up, she'll move up the exact same way she does in Indycar - attrition in front and pit stops. No real racing and passing needed for your girl.

DanicaFan
14th August 2010, 20:53
Congrats to Brad Keselowski for his win.

TURN3
14th August 2010, 21:07
Seen they interviewed the 27th place finisher 4th. No sound, just that stupid grin and I'm sure the usual quote ...."ummmmm, well, ya know....". When is this joke going to be over. Hardly funny any more. Sorry ass excuse to keep an amatuer in the spotlight when young guys like Truex, Bayne, etc. Just ran damn fine races.

Danica Sucks.

beachbum
14th August 2010, 21:12
Danica is becoming the Milka Duno of NASCAR. Run at the back, get in everyone's way.

Easy Drifter
14th August 2010, 21:44
4 laps down in what is a top 10 or at least top 15 car.
Does anyone still think Bernie was being serious.

harvick#1
14th August 2010, 21:50
Danica, just go away, we are tired of this charade. go do more modeling and pimp-daddy commercials and thats all.

beachbum
14th August 2010, 22:48
Danica, just go away, we are tired of this charade. go do more modeling and pimp-daddy commercials and thats all.She really looked dismal. At one point she was lapped just as the cars came of the last turn, She was so slow I thought she was pitting. The in-car shots showed her sawing at the wheel as usual. And of course, the car was "too loose" and they had to "really tighten it up". At least this week she didn't hit anything or anyone.

Earlier this summer, JR Motorsports announced that Danica and GoDaddy were confirmed for a number of races for next year, so I guess unless Bob Parsons gets a brain implant, the charade will continue for another year. They have been pretty open about the need for sponsorship to keep the business alive, so I guess as long as the sponsor money keeps coming in, they will let the ride buyer in the car.

Tony, Jr must really like going to the races and seeing his car ride around at the back with the start and parks ;)

Scotty G.
14th August 2010, 23:05
How did Erin Crocker do in her first 7 stock car starts in NASCAR?


Danica is yesterday's news.

Once Simona moves up to a better team in 2011, she will blow Danica out of the water even more then she already is. The difference in racing talent between those two is startling.

Sarah Fisher has built a race team and is doing it with the business side of the sport (which females have hardly ever done before).

And since she doesn't have the talent to drive a loose race car, she will never make it in ANY form of stock car racing. She is just wasting her time there because she doesn't have that basic skill in her toolbox.

Its all over for DP. Might as well get naked for Playboy now and show those mighty A's. :D

TURN3
15th August 2010, 00:50
How did Erin Crocker do in her first 7 stock car starts in NASCAR?


Danica is yesterday's news.

Once Simona moves up to a better team in 2011, she will blow Danica out of the water even more then she already is. The difference in racing talent between those two is startling.

Sarah Fisher has built a race team and is doing it with the business side of the sport (which females have hardly ever done before).

And since she doesn't have the talent to drive a loose race car, she will never make it in ANY form of stock car racing. She is just wasting her time there because she doesn't have that basic skill in her toolbox.

Its all over for DP. Might as well get naked for Playboy now and show those mighty A's. :D


A's? Who are you kidding...but that's a topic for her next publicity stunt.

I do like this new car though. Unlike Cup, seems they truly represent their product. Mustangs look especially sharp.

harvick#1
15th August 2010, 01:43
I do like this new car though. Unlike Cup, seems they truly represent their product. Mustangs look especially sharp.

Totally agree, the cars actually show some shape of the production cars, I'm really hoping Nascar will move the NNS CoT up to Cup. they seemed to run actually pretty well together, so I guess it passed the first test on a non-plate track

Jag_Warrior
15th August 2010, 04:19
4 laps down in what is a top 10 or at least top 15 car.
Does anyone still think Bernie was being serious.

I just want to make sure that everybody remembers that Princess Lapped-A-Lot was my idea. :D

But no, considering the fact that Danica is pushing 29 and has yet to win a road course race in her life, Bernie was just shooting the bull. She'd do well to stay on the lead lap of a GP2 race. She'd be slaughtered in F1. Just like she'd be slaughtered in a Sprint Cup race. Bernie wasn't about to put forth any effort to get her into an F1 machine. And unless she begins showing some skin (to deflect the criticism that's going to inevitably come storming in after today's horrible performance), I'll be surprised if GoDaddy Bob is going to write that many more checks after a limited 2011.

I am enjoying this tremendously. Because after it became apparent that Danica was more interested in being a racing "star" than a racing driver, I figured that sooner than later the hype could not protect her from reality.

That's right Danica, tighten that baby up. Make it comfortable and easier to drive. Learn some more bad habits. By this time next year, you'll do well not to be 8 laps down by the end. All hail, Princess Lapped-A-Lot!!! Hey, I think I ought to get at least a "get out of jail free" card to cover the ban that's probably coming my way sooner or later. Come on, Mark. Something! :p :


P.S. I love the new Nationwide Series cars too. Well, the Mustang and the Challenger anyway. So fitting that Danica is in an Impala. Geez, another dig. I really need to stop...

Sparky1329
15th August 2010, 05:32
Princess Lapped-A-Lot? I love it! :D :up: If there's some form of racing that's DP's forte NASCAR isn't it.

Too bad GM doesn't need to market the Camaro. That would thrill my little bowtie heart. I do love that Challenger both on the street and on the track but I'm a hardcore GM chick. :D

harvick#1
15th August 2010, 05:45
I do love that Challenger both on the street and on the track but I'm a hardcore GM chick. :D

yeah, I wouldn't mind trading my car in for a Challenger, the one car that Dodge got right, its one badass lookin car

slorydn1
15th August 2010, 05:58
I just want to make sure that everybody remembers that Princess Lapped-A-Lot was my idea. :D

Hey, I think I ought to get at least a "get out of jail free" card to cover the ban that's probably coming my way sooner or later. Come on, Mark. Something! :p :


You just used it :p : :D

Easy Drifter
15th August 2010, 06:50
Thanks Jag. I like it even better than my Stompin' Danica.
I have already used it in a couple of comments to Dean Mcnulty's stuff in the Toronto Sun.
I have very little use for Mcnulty.
Norris MacDonald in the Toronto Star is good. Trouble is I prefer the Sun otherwise.

beachbum
15th August 2010, 11:44
Because after it became apparent that Danica was more interested in being a racing "star" than a racing driver, I figured that sooner than later the hype could not protect her from reality.I think that was apparent a long time ago.

From the very beginning, it seemed to me that her driving style was just push the throttle and hang on. That may work ok with youthful bravado and quick reflexes. But as a racer gets older, they have to replace that with an often overused phrase - racecraft - the ability to analyze a racetrack, figure out and hit your marks, and know how to handle varying conditions and car behavior. She hasn't done that and still seems a stomp and steer driver (in more ways than one). Many have pointed out that she seems to have mellowed a bit lately. In her case, once the fire was dimmed even a little and the reflexes weren't quite as quick, the game was over. She hasn't developed the skillls to replace that more youthful abandon.

IMHO, her 15 minutes of race fame are over. Her other minutes of fame are all that are keeping her on track. There are other young women coming along who can replace her - I hope soon. Simona seems to already have in IndyCar and there are a couple in NASCAR as well.

DanicaFan
15th August 2010, 16:36
It wasnt Danica's best performance but cut her some slack. It was her first time in the new Nationwide car. Plus she has been running road courses in Indycar the past couple races. She also got that blend line penalty that cost her a lap.

beachgirl
15th August 2010, 16:55
It wasnt Danica's best performance but cut her some slack. It was her first time in the new Nationwide car. Plus she has been running road courses in Indycar the past couple races. She also got that blend line penalty that cost her a lap.

Oh please. Stop with the excuse of the day already. Blend-line penalty? So she would have been 3 laps down instead of 4, and still finished 27th. DF, she ran out of slack-cutting a loooong time ago. SHE even admitted she couldn't tell the difference between the previous Nationwide car and the new one. She wants to play with the big boys, she needs to suck it up and learn to run a loose car. "The car's too loose". And when have we all heard that before? And not just in Nationwide. It's been her battlecry for 6 years in Indycar. If she insists in running a tight car, she (and her diehard fans) will have to accept that she will always run in the back, and if that happens it won't matter how much of a novelty she is, sponsors will leave her. They don't pay forever for backmarkers. No matter how "hot" the driver is otherwise. (Except Citgo, and that's a whole other topic.)

TURN3
15th August 2010, 17:29
It wasnt Danica's best performance but cut her some slack. It was her first time in the new Nationwide car. Plus she has been running road courses in Indycar the past couple races. She also got that blend line penalty that cost her a lap.

Considering Daytona was the only other time ANYBODY used this car, and there is very little that carries over to any other track from Daytona, this was EVERYBODY'S first time driving this car. All of the TALENTED and PROFESSIONAL race car drivers dealt with their handling issues and NONE of them were 4 laps down. Today it's a new car excuse, what has then excuse been for the past 14 years through every single other epic failure?

BTW, Elliot "Back of Pack" Sadler finished in the top 10 in the team car.

Easy Drifter
15th August 2010, 17:55
beachgirl is sooo correct. The taxi cabs have to be run a bit loose to really be competitive.
If she cannot accept this and learn how to drive a car that is a bit tail happy she is toast.
She will never do it but she needs to do some dirt track racing to get used to loose. Run some local dirt track races under an assumed name in a Thunder car or similar class. Wouldn't cost much but she won't spend any of her own money.
Does anyone know if she has any sort of a training program like most of the drivers do? I have never heard or seen any reference to one.

NickFalzone
15th August 2010, 18:01
Does anyone know if she has any sort of a training program like most of the drivers do? I have never heard or seen any reference to one.

No, unless you mean racing 1 race in Arca, and posing for Go-Daddy ads.

Jag_Warrior
15th August 2010, 18:25
Princess Lapped-A-Lot? I love it! :D :up: If there's some form of racing that's DP's forte NASCAR isn't it.

Too bad GM doesn't need to market the Camaro. That would thrill my little bowtie heart. I do love that Challenger both on the street and on the track but I'm a hardcore GM chick. :D

I understand that Toyota hasn't got an exciting car to market. But I just don't get why GM wouldn't put the Camaro out there. I heard there was a story behind it but I haven't tried to dig into it. Do you know why?

Also, I'm with you and Harvick#1 on the Challenger. Everytime I see one it whispers, "buy me".

beachbum
15th August 2010, 18:50
Plus she has been running road courses in Indycar the past couple races. What does that have to do with anything? Is she or is she not a race driver?

Easy Drifter
15th August 2010, 19:39
She drives racing cars. She is not a race driver.

00steven
15th August 2010, 21:32
Danica sucks. We should just avoid talking about her so DanicaFan can't get the pleasure he gets from angering all of us with his foolish comments.

Sparky1329
16th August 2010, 06:37
I understand that Toyota hasn't got an exciting car to market. But I just don't get why GM wouldn't put the Camaro out there. I heard there was a story behind it but I haven't tried to dig into it. Do you know why?

My daughter is a marketer. She says GM is selling the Camaro like hotcakes. That's why they can't responsibly invest their marketing dollats in a car that needs no marketing. She also says that's her next new car. She's a hardcore GM chick like her mom. Her dad agrees with us both.

harvick#1
16th August 2010, 07:09
My daughter is a marketer. She says GM is selling the Camaro like hotcakes. That's why they can't responsibly invest their marketing dollats in a car that needs no marketing. She also says that's her next new car. She's a hardcore GM chick like her mom. Her dad agrees with us both.

I'd still rather take the Challenger, the Camaro is butt ugly and the Dodge is just insanely amazing to look at.

I am evil Homer
16th August 2010, 09:36
So who won? What was the Top 10?

I merely ask because the UK-based self--pointed "Authority on Motorsport", Autosport, only had a story regarding where a certain Hot Wheels sponsored car ended up. Ridiculous.

And their iphone app sucks ha ha

beachbum
16th August 2010, 11:35
So who won? What was the Top 10?

I merely ask because the UK-based self--pointed "Authority on Motorsport", Autosport, only had a story regarding where a certain Hot Wheels sponsored car ended up. Ridiculous.

And their iphone app sucks ha haTop 10

Brad Keselowski
Carl Edwards
Kyle Busch
Justin Allgaier
Paul Menard
Joey Logano
Elliott Sadler (teammate to a certain 27th place "finisher")
Reed Sorenson
Colin Braun
Kevin Harvick

17 cars on the lead lap with John Wes Townley in 17th

I am evil Homer
16th August 2010, 11:59
Cheers...the 'coverage' in the UK is laughable anyway but I expected Autosport to at least give me a run down of who finished where even if it had to lead with where Danica placed.

tstran17_88
17th August 2010, 00:02
Here is what the car will look like..

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee236/DanicaRules/DanicaHotwheels.jpg

The car looked like a road block to me all Saturday afternoon.

NickFalzone
17th August 2010, 02:08
The car looked like a road block to me all Saturday afternoon.

To paraphrase Ryan Hunter-Reay, the 7 car did a good job as Turn 5 all afternoon.

slorydn1
18th August 2010, 02:58
And here I thought all this time NASCAR put in a moving chicane to appease the road course fans who say ovals are boring...and its turns out it was just Danica. I owe NASCAR an apology. :D

Mark in Oshawa
18th August 2010, 07:41
I'd still rather take the Challenger, the Camaro is butt ugly and the Dodge is just insanely amazing to look at.

I agree...but hope lots of silly people keep buying Camaro's. They build them less than 2 km's from where I sit typing this, and the success of that car is keeping my neighbours working....

That said, The Challenger is built just down the road in Brampton ON and being a loyal Mopar man, I lust after one in Petty Blue.....

Forget the Fords, or any other make.....


Oh ya...Danica? When you cannot tell the difference between the old aero dependent NW car with the low center of gravity and the greater offset, and the new COT based NW car with less offset and a higher CG; you prove you were not ready for this leap into NASCAR land.

The fact is that when you have a setup THAT comfortable to drive as she has her cars, she will NEVER finish on the lead lap. NEVER. CANT DO IT.

Loose is fast....and Kevin Harvick and Kyle Busch prove it every week in Cup racing...

If Danica cannot grasp this concept, it proves she is more concerned with not hitting things than winning races. IF you are thinking that, you have beaten yourself.

For the Go Daddy people to keep pouring money into this experiment is an insult to their investors. Keep her in the IRL, at least there she can see the lead lap......and I would have told them THAT before they put her in a stock car. The fact is, anyone who follows racing with some knowledge predicted this very outcome.....

beachgirl
18th August 2010, 20:32
For the Go Daddy people to keep pouring money into this experiment is an insult to their investors. Keep her in the IRL, at least there she can see the lead lap......and I would have told them THAT before they put her in a stock car. The fact is, anyone who follows racing with some knowledge predicted this very outcome.....

If I recall correctly, GoDaddy is privately owned. Bob Parsons filed for an IPO a couple years ago, but then withdrew it. Bob Parsons will spend the company's money however he wishes, for as long as he wishes, until a)he gets tired of it, b)Danica ages too much to be a good GoDaddyGirl, or c)his business gets impacted negatively. Since it's a private company, it's not possible to get accurate financial information. He could say whatever he wants about increased business, etc. and there would be no way of knowing what is truth and what is plain old media/marketing hype and smoke and mirrors.

But a lot of us are already tired of it, him, and her, and have been from the beginning. Pimp Daddy, indeed.

Jag_Warrior
19th August 2010, 19:26
All you folks do is make fun of poor Danica. Shame on you all. So I'm going to try to help her. After last week's "performance", Danica revealed that she had learned a lot (when you know next to nothing, "a lot" is VERY relative). And the main thing Danica said that she learned was that stock cars have truck bars, and these truck bars affect the handling of the car. Now I have to admit, I didn't know that stock cars had truck bars either. I knew that they had track bars, but this other device is new to me too!

So after two two or three races, she figured out where the ignition switch was (so many switches on these cars... how do they expect people to memorize all that stuff?!). After four races (?), she learned about bump & run: "So that's like a technique, huh?" With this race, she learned about the mystery truck bar. By next race, maybe she'll learn that it's called a track bar!

People just have to be patient. It's going to take some time for Danica to climb to the top of the stock car world the way she's climbed to the top of the IRL world. And I'm going to do my part to get her there. Here ya go Danica:
Tweaks of the Trade (http://www.stockcarracing.com/techarticles/32898_making_race_cars_handle/index.html)

I'm also going to buy you a book, Danica. Every day, when you get home from doing bikini shoots and signing t-shirts (the important stuff!), I expect you to read at least one page a night (two if you're feeling overly studious). By the time you're 40, we'll have you finishing no more than 2 laps down. Gotta set goals, right?

Read it. Learn it. Love it!!!
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516HT8T43SL.jpg

Sparky1329
19th August 2010, 22:37
All you folks do is make fun of poor Danica. Shame on you all. So I'm going to try to help her. After last week's "performance", Danica revealed that she had learned a lot (when you know next to nothing, "a lot" is VERY relative). And the main thing Danica said that she learned was that stock cars have truck bars, and these truck bars affect the handling of the car. Now I have to admit, I didn't know that stock cars had truck bars either. I knew that they had track bars, but this other device is new to me too!

So after two two or three races, she figured out where the ignition switch was (so many switches on these cars... how do they expect people to memorize all that stuff?!). After four races (?), she learned about bump & run: "So that's like a technique, huh?" With this race, she learned about the mystery truck bar. By next race, maybe she'll learn that it's called a track bar!

People just have to be patient. It's going to take some time for Danica to climb to the top of the stock car world the way she's climbed to the top of the IRL world. And I'm going to do my part to get her there. Here ya go Danica:
Tweaks of the Trade (http://www.stockcarracing.com/techarticles/32898_making_race_cars_handle/index.html)

I'm also going to buy you a book, Danica. Every day, when you get home from doing bikini shoots and signing t-shirts (the important stuff!), I expect you to read at least one page a night (two if you're feeling overly studious). By the time you're 40, we'll have you finishing no more than 2 laps down. Gotta set goals, right?

Read it. Learn it. Love it!!!
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516HT8T43SL.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/Sparky1/Clip%20Art/smileyhighfive.gif

Priceless!

Alexamateo
19th August 2010, 23:26
Jag, I am not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but she said truck arms, which are the type of rear suspension used in NASCAR.

Hope I didn't spoil your fun.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/tech/0604_rear_suspension_guide/truck_arms_independent_rear_three_link.html


Truck Arms--The NASCAR Favorite
Chances are, the only time you have seen a truck-arm style (aka center drive) rear suspension is if you looked under a NASCAR racer. Winston Cup, Busch Grand National, Craftsman Truck, and IROC drivers have been tweaking this technology for the last 30 years.


The truck arm is an I-beam arrangement that pivots on a mounting point just aft of the trans tailshaft and is hard-mounted to the axle. There are various ends used at the forward mounting point depending on racetrack distance. The adjustable Panhard rod allows the opposite sides to be set for proper handling at various tracks. Coil springs rest in pockets on top of the truck arm, just forward of the axle. The upper pockets have a vertically adjustable plate that can compress or decompress the spring to change the ride height for specific tracks and conditions. When a driver comes into the pits and the pit crew adds or removes height, they are adjusting this plate up or down." This design allows for quick fine-tuning of the suspension, including the pinion angle, by the NASCAR mechanics. When we asked Kurt why NASCAR continues to use this technology he said, "It's required that we run this type. NASCAR is still old school." It also can be argued that this setup gets the job done on some of the fastest racecars around.

beachbum
20th August 2010, 01:16
As the article points out, the rear suspension in the early days was essentially a Chevy pickup coil spring suspension from the late 60's hence the name "truck arms". Regardless of the name, they have had 2 for longer than Danica has been alive. Now I wonder if she knows what a track bar is? (panhard bar to non-stock car crowd)

Jag_Warrior
20th August 2010, 10:06
You're right, Alex. I was thinking that she said truck bar, but she did say truck arm. I'm still not convinced that she'd know the difference if each was on a table in front of her. But she said "arm" and not "bar".


"I just found out there was two truck arms, not just one," Patrick said on Friday of the Nationwide car. "It's so over my head right now."

But the fact remains that this is a person who thought that she was ready to jump straight into Sprint Cup a couple of years ago. In light of how she's doing in the Nationwide Series, and her incredible lack of pre-race preparation, that is SO amazing to me. Hence my new sig line... :D

DanicaFan
20th August 2010, 12:28
Well, Jag you can take one part of your signature off, the part about F1. Danica, herself has said she is not interested in F1. She has no desire for international travel and is happy in the states with the ovals. ;)

beachgirl
20th August 2010, 13:26
Well, Jag you can take one part of your signature off, the part about F1. Danica, herself has said she is not interested in F1. She has no desire for international travel and is happy in the states with the ovals. ;)

She also said, prior to last year, that she had no interest or desire to run NASCAR. Times change. And I think, IIRC, the quote Jag has was said not all that long ago, either - maybe 2 years ago? :)

Alexamateo
20th August 2010, 13:33
Well, Jag you can take one part of your signature off, the part about F1. Danica, herself has said she is not interested in F1. She has no desire for international travel and is happy in the states with the ovals. ;)

Just like AJ back in the day! ;) :D

DanicaFan
20th August 2010, 15:16
Rumors were floating around that she might replace Schumacher back when he was about to retire but that never developed obviously.

Last year, her name was being thrown out about the USF1 team. But the thing people forgot is they threw her name out, she didnt. She was never even contacted by anyone from that organization. Shortly after that is when she made it clear she had no desire for F1.

Jag_Warrior
20th August 2010, 16:46
Well, Jag you can take one part of your signature off, the part about F1. Danica, herself has said she is not interested in F1. She has no desire for international travel and is happy in the states with the ovals. ;)

The sig is from a statement she made a couple of years back, DF. If you recall (if you saw it), at that same time I made the statement, "I'm not sure who I want to date... Ivanka Trump or Salma Hayek. I'm just not sure." I tried to include that in the sig but it was too long.

The difference is, I was being facetious. Danica actually thought that F1 was an option for her. With a big enough GoDaddy check, she could be in the running for Sakon Yamamoto's seat (or a seat at another HRT caliber team), but that's about it. By the same token, with a big enough check, I'm sure that there is an Ivanka Trump or Salma Hayek look-alike who would go out with me. They're both now married, but even back when they weren't, for me to (seriously) think that was an option would suggest that the massive quantities of alcohol that I drank in college has now destroyed my brain.


I know she's your favorite driver, but do you seriously think that an F1 team (one not in need of a ride buyer) would hire a person who has never won a road course race in her life? Really? This Nationwide deal with JR is based on her bringing a check. That's it. But she thought that she was ready for Sprint Cup way back when. She's not even ready for Nationwide, by the looks of it. And the only people spreading the rumor that Ferrari would even consider giving Danica a tour of the Maranello factory live in some sort of alternate reality. My friend, please ask yourself why Ferrari would give her a race seat when even Honda dropped the offer to give her a test. Again... she has never won a road course/street race. Cheer away for your driver. I have no issue with that. But Danica won't ever drive for a (real) F1 team and even if they both get divorced tomorrow, I won't be dating either Ivanka Trump or Salma Hayek.

Jag_Warrior
20th August 2010, 17:02
She also said, prior to last year, that she had no interest or desire to run NASCAR. Times change. And I think, IIRC, the quote Jag has was said not all that long ago, either - maybe 2 years ago? :)

Yep, about two years ago +/-. She said that along with commenting on how high the ratings would be in Sprint Cup if she was racing there. And ya know, she was probably right. If I could train a monkey to drive a car, I bet people would tune in for that too. I saw a documentary on carnival sideshows in the 1930's & '40's a few weeks back. The highest paid performers in the carnival were the freaks and odd characters, like the bearded ladies and the men who could swallow swords. They made a LOT of money.

Oh, more breaking news! Paris Hilton has just released a statement. She's not sure if she wants to get a degree from Harvard or Yale. She's just not sure. When she gets her GED, she might make up her mind then.

I give both Paris and Danica (and every other reality TV like character in our society these days) credit where it's due: they've found a way to make a good living selling hype over substance.

TURN3
21st August 2010, 15:52
I saw a documentary on carnival sideshows in the 1930's & '40's a few weeks back. The highest paid performers in the carnival were the freaks and odd characters, like the bearded ladies and the men who could swallow swords. They made a LOT of money.

Which is exactly the analogy I like to use when describing her existence in racing these days...she's a side show while the main show is going on inside the tent and the 3 rings. I also predicted that next year would be her last with any serious team. It remains to be seen if she'll make it to next year but I'm still thinking the well dries up for her by the end of next year. Then she'll quickly fade out of existence and hopefully by then a crop of REAL racers will have solidly made thier name and given up people to actually cheer for instead of against.

beachgirl
21st August 2010, 17:30
I find it very interesting that Adam Carroll's strategist was...Michael Andretti. Danica had arguably her best year at Andretti with Michael as her strategist.

Just a question - why can't Danica keep a strategist for more than one year? Does she demand the change annually, or do the strategists? And she's on her second one for 2010.

Easy Drifter
21st August 2010, 17:44
And how many engineers/mechanics? I suspect quite a few.
If she actually drives in Nationwide next year do you think Tony Eury Jr. will be her crew chief? I very much doubt it.

beachgirl
21st August 2010, 19:15
And how many engineers/mechanics? I suspect quite a few.
If she actually drives in Nationwide next year do you think Tony Eury Jr. will be her crew chief? I very much doubt it.

Maybe if he buys the Rosetta Stone for Danica-ese? :D

wbcobrar
5th September 2010, 04:20
Josh Wise did a great job in the #7 car tonight 11th place at Atlanta (with 17 cup drivers in the field). I was expecting a flood of reporters to descend on his car, given the attention the other #7 car driver got when finishing 3 laps down, but mysteriously, there was no post race interview with Josh.

NickFalzone
5th September 2010, 04:29
Josh Wise did a great job in the #7 car tonight 11th place at Atlanta (with 17 cup drivers in the field). I was expecting a flood of reporters to descend on his car, given the attention the other #7 car driver got when finishing 3 laps down, but mysteriously, there was no post race interview with Josh.

Maybe Josh needs to grow his hair out and finish 2+ laps down and he will get some post-race interviews.