SAIRC - Round 5 - VW Rally

[Bruce D]

Volkswagen Rally Event Info
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23-24 July 2010
South African Internet Rally Championship - Round 5

Rules
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Open to S2000, N4-N1 and A7-A5 cars only (No WRC cars!)
Tyre choice is free for all stages
Pacenotes - Audio only, not visual
One SuperRally per leg, 3min penalty for each SuperRally used.

Stages
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Day 1
SS1 - Bisanne II (France) - Mod: Gravel - Weather: Clear - 5.6km
SS2 - Greenhills II (Australia) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Clear - 6.0km
SS3 - Greenhills (Australia) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Clear - NIGHT MOD - 6.0km

Day 2
SS4 - Shepherds Shield (England) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Clear - 4.8km
SS5 - Chironhead II (England) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Clear - 6.9km
SS6 - Shepherds Shield II (England) - Mod: Normal - Weather: Clear - 4.8km

Total Distance - 34.1km

Entries
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Send your entries to BruceD by PM or by email to [email:grjk4kjk]rbrmfcup@gmail.com[/email:grjk4kjk] Entry info as follows: Name, Country, Team, Car.

Submitting times
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Start each stage using the "RSRBR2009" button under the "play alone" section, do your stage. The time will be recorded in the window at the bottom of RsCenter. If its not recorded, you did something wrong. Use "public sessions" tab and "Go" button for BTB stages.

Once you have completed the stages you wish to do, select the File menu and click on "Save times" The times are saved to your RBR directory under the folder "MyTimes". Once you have done all the stages, send all your html files to [email:grjk4kjk]rbrmfcup@gmail.com[/email:grjk4kjk] to be scored. Please note that more than 1 html file can be submitted so you don't have to do all the stages at one time.

Entries open immediately. Rally and entries close at midnight Wednesday 30th June 2010

[Bruce D]

Correction on the submission date - 27th July 2010...

It's now off to the forests around Uitenhage in Port Elizabeth for VW's home round, and they're for a home win!

[tannat]

Recently used WRC stages should promote some good times.... :D

[Francis44]

Entry has been sent!!!!

[lcd]

Help me out here please...

Did a clean Install of winxp lately and when I start RSRBR2010, after completing a stage, It doen't exit to the RS control panel, but remains
at the Ingame menu ( restart,retire,save replays, exit to main menu e.t.c)
and can exit only with alt+ctrl+del! That seems to work out, but RSRBR2010 exits too, and doesn't record my time!
Any Idea, what should be going wrong ? :confused:

( Installed RSRBR2010 mod+updates+everything, 3 times and still no good... )

[Blazquez]

Help me out here please...

Did a clean Install of winxp lately and when I start RSRBR2010, after completing a stage, It doen't exit to the RS control panel, but remains
at the Ingame menu ( restart,retire,save replays, exit to main menu e.t.c)
and can exit only with alt+ctrl+del! That seems to work out, but RSRBR2010 exits too, and doesn't record my time!
Any Idea, what should be going wrong ? :confused:

( Installed RSRBR2010 mod+updates+everything, 3 times and still no good... )

maybe u have to update first windows xp run all the updates that are u can get and also update all your drivers!

because there is a change that u installed something from windows before that use to close the game and go back to rs center

[lcd]

Thanks Blazquez, but I think It's because of RSRBR latest updates
( updates 4,5 ) or BTB latest updates ( update 5 )
There are also cars missing from cars selection list! :confused:

Does anyone happen to know the safe Install order?

I followed this one:
1.RBR original
2.RBR official patch 1,2
3.RSRBR2010 mod
4.RSRBR updates 3,4,5
5.RSRBR complete cars pack
6.BTB packs 1,2,3,4,5

Please help-I wouldn't like to miss SAiRC rnd5!!!!! :D

[Francis44]

Thanks Blazquez, but I think It's because of RSRBR latest updates
( updates 4,5 ) or BTB latest updates ( update 5 )
There are also cars missing from cars selection list! :confused:

Does anyone happen to know the safe Install order?

I followed this one:
1.RBR original
2.RBR official patch 1,2
3.RSRBR2010 mod
4.RSRBR updates 3,4,5
5.RSRBR complete cars pack
6.BTB packs 1,2,3,4,5

Please help-I wouldn't like to miss SAiRC rnd5!!!!! :D

Did you download and installed the car packs after the update?!

[lcd]

Did you download and installed the car packs after the update?!

Yes, I did, after the RSRBR updates...
Is that the wrong step ? ( regarding the missing cars... )

[NeverKnow]

...Does anyone happen to know the safe Install order?

I followed this one:
1.RBR original
2.RBR official patch 1,2
3.RSRBR2010 mod
4.RSRBR updates 3,4,5
5.RSRBR complete cars pack
6.BTB packs 1,2,3,4,5
...
I think that is the correct installation order. You should not have any problems.
I'm currently redownloading complete cars pack and the lates btb pack after installing update 5. Let's see if I encounter any problems after installing them.

Yes, I did, after the RSRBR updates...
Is that the wrong step ? ( regarding the missing cars... )
No, it's the right course of action.

[Blazquez]

I think that is the correct installation order. You should not have any problems.
I'm currently redownloading complete cars pack and the lates btb pack after installing update 5. Let's see if I encounter any problems after installing them.

No, it's the right course of action.

=O i didnt downloaded BTB 5 and RBR update 5 yet is it new?
i am gona Rally tonight :D Hopefully i can get a good time but i think there is a change that i will end up in a crash somehow :rolleyes:

[NeverKnow]

=O i didnt downloaded BTB 5 and RBR update 5 yet is it new? ...
It was released yesterday night so I'd say it is new. :p

Anyway I've installed update 5, btb 5 and the new complete cars pack and I've not encountered any problems yet. Though I've had few menu appearances after stage have been run (alt+F4 fixed that) but RSRBR still recorded the stage time.

LCD if you still experience these problem, maybe you should update only to update 4, do the rally, and after that try to get update 5 working.

[Blazquez]

It was released yesterday night so I'd say it is new. :p

Anyway I've installed update 5, btb 5 and the new complete cars pack and I've not encountered any problems yet. Though I've had few menu appearances after stage have been run (alt+F4 fixed that) but RSRBR still recorded the stage time.

LCD if you still experience these problem, maybe you should update only to update 4, do the rally, and after that try to get update 5 working.

What is new about BTB5 and update 5? what kind of new tracks ?

[NeverKnow]

What is new about BTB5 and update 5? what kind of new tracks ?
From rallyesim.fr:

Update 5:
Corrections made by this update :
- Pacenotes V2 for MLYNKY
- New physics for Skoda Fabia s2000 (A7S_1 & N4_S2000_1)


Novelties introduced by this update
- Lancia 037 (pack Group_B) by Po911

- Version 2 for 205 Rallye (A5_1, N1_1, F2000-12_1)
- Version 2 for 205 GTi (A7_2, A6_1, N3_2, N2_2, F2000-14_2, F2000_13_2)



Here (http://forum.rallyesim.fr/viewtopic.php?f=442&t=5432) are the stages which are in BTB 5.

[Blazquez]

From rallyesim.fr:

Update 5:
Corrections made by this update :
- Pacenotes V2 for MLYNKY
- New physics for Skoda Fabia s2000 (A7S_1 & N4_S2000_1)


Novelties introduced by this update
- Lancia 037 (pack Group_B) by Po911

- Version 2 for 205 Rallye (A5_1, N1_1, F2000-12_1)
- Version 2 for 205 GTi (A7_2, A6_1, N3_2, N2_2, F2000-14_2, F2000_13_2)




Here (http://forum.rallyesim.fr/viewtopic.php?f=442&t=5432) are the stages which are in BTB 5.


stupid me :D I could also watch on the site never mind =P ty anyway! i am still wondering how to create your own car look i did downloaded a template but i couldent edite it or something anyone know how to do that?

[tannat]

I'm so pleased with the current Fabia S2000 I am a bit hesitant to download the update..

But gotta have the Lancia 037 :up:

[Francis44]

I'm so pleased with the current Fabia S2000 I am a bit hesitant to download the update..

But gotta have the Lancia 037 :up:

Yeah the updated physics do make a difference.

The car is much faster going out of hairpins but much less stable too, I can say that I have a hard time not spinning out of the road when using handbrake, and the suspension is a little bit higher so on flatout cornering it's not as stable as it used to be.

I think they tried to improve the car seeing it was slower than the 207, but it can take time to adapt to the new physics.

Anyway on gravel it's not that noticeable but on tarmac it's almost a completely different car.

[tannat]

Yeah the updated physics do make a difference.

The car is much faster going out of hairpins but much less stable too, I can say that I have a hard time not spinning out of the road when using handbrake, and the suspension is a little bit higher so on flatout cornering it's not as stable as it used to be.

I think they tried to improve the car seeing it was slower than the 207, but it can take time to adapt to the new physics.

Anyway on gravel it's not that noticeable but on tarmac it's almost a completely different car.

Cheers, Francis. I appreciate the input...

A beer for you, mate :beer:

[Bruce D]

Very slow entry for this one so far:

South African Internet Rally Championship
Round 5 - Volkswagen Rally
Entry List

Num Driver Driver Nat. Car Group Team


2 BruceD South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport
4 NeverKnow Estonia Subaru Impreza N14 N4 OMV Red Bull Rally Team
6 Tannat USA Skoda Fabia Evo 1 S2000 S2000 Dark Blue Drum Rallysport
8 Francis44 Portugal Peugeot 207 S2000 S2000 Baker Motorsport
11 Paul Minnaar South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport

[lcd]

Downloading cars pack updated, checking RSRBR2010, and hopefully, entering this one, probably with a new car-Punto Isn't for me... :D

[Blazquez]

I will finish the rally tonight and sent them to you ! =D (my first entry but this isnt a really good one) :( Lost already alot time because of 1 crash, want me to sent the replay whit it?

Name:Blazquez
Country:Spain
Class:S2000
Car:Skoda Fabia Evo 1 S2000
Team:Ralliart

I think i got car number 19 but i am not sure because this si ym first entry and it ends at nr.18

[Bruce D]

Well the SAIRC runs different numbers to the RBR Cup so 14 was the next available number but I've given you 19 for now, unless you want to change to 14.

Welcome to the league! Hopefully you enjoy it. No need to send replays though, unless you do what the other guys do and post them on YouTube and give a link here.

Updated entry list:
South African Internet Rally Championship
Round 5 - Volkswagen Rally
Entry List

Num Driver Driver Nat. Car Group Team


2 BruceD South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport
4 NeverKnow Estonia Subaru Impreza N14 N4 OMV Red Bull Rally Team
6 Tannat USA Skoda Fabia Evo 1 S2000 S2000 Dark Blue Drum Rallysport
8 Francis44 Portugal Peugeot 207 S2000 S2000 Baker Motorsport
11 Paul Minnaar South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport
19 Blazquez Spain Skoda Fabia Evo 1 S2000 S2000 Ralliart

[tannat]

I think I am going to try the Pug for this round, Bruce :D




Updated entry list:
South African Internet Rally Championship
Round 5 - Volkswagen Rally
Entry List

Num Driver Driver Nat. Car Group Team


2 BruceD South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport
4 NeverKnow Estonia Subaru Impreza N14 N4 OMV Red Bull Rally Team
6 Tannat USA Peugeot 207 S2000 Dark Blue Drum Rallysport
8 Francis44 Portugal Peugeot 207 S2000 S2000 Baker Motorsport
11 Paul Minnaar South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport
19 Blazquez Spain Skoda Fabia Evo 1 S2000 S2000 Ralliart

[tannat]

Yeah the updated physics do make a difference.

The car is much faster going out of hairpins but much less stable too, I can say that I have a hard time not spinning out of the road when using handbrake, and the suspension is a little bit higher so on flatout cornering it's not as stable as it used to be.

I think they tried to improve the car seeing it was slower than the 207, but it can take time to adapt to the new physics.

Anyway on gravel it's not that noticeable but on tarmac it's almost a completely different car.

Off the line the revs bog down-it didn't previously.

It seems perhaps a bit more loose and not quite as precise with steering. I took a brief spin the in the 207 and was made a believer-go roaring lion...

[Francis44]

Yes let's defend the lion colors :D .

[tannat]

After a run on Greenhills II it is a bit quick to point/ easy to rotate/ willing spinner

however you wish to say it :laugh:

[Bruce D]

Or as one of our local guys once said "my ass wanted to beat me round the corner every time!" :p

[tannat]

Or as one of our local guys once said "my ass wanted to beat me round the corner every time!" :p

WELL SAID! :up:

[Blazquez]

Okej i just sent my entry times, i have to say i had a really bad rally :(
lost more then 2 minutes at SS6 - Shepherds Shield II because of a mega crash :dozey:

I also crashed out of SS2 - Greenhills II (Australia) couldnt go on i had to retire =/

overall it was just bad very bad but next time better! =D

[Bruce D]

Well we all had bad events to start with, so it's a matter of seeing how you compare on the stages you know you got right. The problem with this league is that everyone is pushing so hard that you do really have to push just to be in the running, and sometimes you're going to fall off the road.

[lcd]

Here I am guys, alive and kicking after solved RSRBR2010 problems!
(Some bloody tojans must have caused the whole thing :angryfire )

I'm entering this one, with a new car: Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8!
Have a good race!

[ctbr]

18 ctbr, Sweden, CTBR Motorsport, Peugeot 207 S2000

I have already sent in my results

/Tomas

[Bruce D]

Cool, got them.

Did my run last nite. Was ok, had some good times, but lost a bit here and there. Had a stupid off on Greenhills II where I tried to take the corner between the 2 junction right corners flat, and hit the spectators instead. Anyway, hopefully the result isn't as bad as it looks right now.

[tannat]

Cool, got them.

Did my run last nite. Was ok, had some good times, but lost a bit here and there. Had a stupid off on Greenhills II where I tried to take the corner between the 2 junction right corners flat, and hit the spectators instead. Anyway, hopefully the result isn't as bad as it looks right now.

I know that turn. The call is "don't cut" but it is SO cut-able.

About 2/3rds into the stage?

[NeverKnow]

Just did my rally and I didn't had major dramas, though I did struggle with understeer during the event which caused few slight offs. Lost maybe 10-15 seconds to these mistakes.
On SS1 I've got good rhytm but didn't quite get the hairpins right. I fear I lost some times to S2000 cars on this one because my Subaru didn't fancy those twisty roads.
SS2 was ok but on SS3 I took it little safe. I breaked too early at the junctions as well.
The second day went without incidents, few driving mistakes here and there when I tried to go too fast and the car barely stayed on the road. I think I also found a new favourite stage in RBR and it is Shepherds Shield II which reminds slightly the stages at Rally Finland, very fast and flowy but if you get the corners wrong you end up in the scenery.

[Bruce D]

I know that turn. The call is "don't cut" but it is SO cut-able.

About 2/3rds into the stage?

Yeah that one. Stupid of me really cos I would never have stopped in time for the next junction. It's easy flat the other way but you're going faster in that direction.

[tannat]

Yeah that one. Stupid of me really cos I would never have stopped in time for the next junction. It's easy flat the other way but you're going faster in that direction.

Love that stage-- we should do it in the snow :up:

[Francis44]

There is a problem with RBR, when you start up a error 308 appears, I've downloaded the fix on the site but it still wont open, any of you have found solution to this problem??

[Bruce D]

Is this after the update #5?

[Francis44]

Is this after the update #5?

Yes it is.

[lcd]

Hey Bruce, Is there any problem If I change my Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 8
to Evo 9 ? :p

[Bruce D]

No, none at all. :)

[52Paddy]

Updated Entry List:

2 BruceD South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport
4 NeverKnow Estonia Subaru Impreza N14 N4 OMV Red Bull Rally Team
6 Tannat USA Peugeot 207 S2000 Dark Blue Drum Rallysport
8 Francis44 Portugal Peugeot 207 S2000 S2000 Baker Motorsport
11 Paul Minnaar South Africa VW Polo S2000 S2000 GRACE Motorsport
17 52Paddy IRL Fiat Punto S2000 S2000 Dark Blue Drum Rallysport
18 ctbr, Sweden, CTBR Motorsport, Peugeot 207 S2000
19 Blazquez Spain Skoda Fabia Evo 1 S2000 S2000 Ralliart

I'm in on this one. There are no Fiats in the line-up yet so I've decide to give the Grande Punto a chance at this rally and see how I fare.

[lcd]

My times are In Bruce!

Here's my report:
Bisanne II was quite scary, with a roll over at the beginning of the stage
and some more bad moments later on. Greenhills II was quite good and the night stage
was one of my best night runs so far! Shepherds Shield was furious and risky. In Chirdonhead II
had a spun, but got back to the road quickly and Shepherds Shield was fine, except an off road,
at the first fast right, after start.The change of car, was a clever thing to do, at this point
of the championship, as I think I got almost everything this car could give
me through the stages!

Overall, a quite fast rally but technically demandful too,
and that's the way I like It! ;)

Media coming shortly...

[lcd]

Photos from special stages:
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/7128/richardburnsrally1.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img820/3749/richardburnsrally2.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img293/6683/richardburnsrally3.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img717/700/richardburnsrally4.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img80/7051/richardburnsrally5.jpg
http://a.imageshack.us/img175/5082/richardburnsrally6.jpg

ss3-Shepherds Shield's run:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdr2SzCvaS8

[Bruce D]

Cool got them. BTW LCD your old account keeps sending me links to viruses.

Just to let you guys know, the real VW Rally ran this weekend, and ended in a 1.5sec gap between 1st and 2nd! This follows the Rally of SA where the winning margin was 0.7sec. So 2 rallies in a row with less than a 2sec winning margin.

[lcd]

Cool got them. BTW LCD your old account keeps sending me links to viruses.

Sorry about that :( -looking at it right away...
( you mean the [email:2okjbb7u]lcdgr@live.com[/email:2okjbb7u] right? )

[Bruce D]

yeah that one. It sent me the 2nd one today.

[CaptainRaiden]

Count me out for this one as well guys, just can't find enough time to play. Forehead deep in work. :(

Next one maybe, hopefully. :)

[Bruce D]

FINAL RESULTS

Yet another win for Francis44 in the Peugeot 207, but a great dice for second between NeverKnow and Paul Minnaar which eventually went the way of the Estonian.

Tannat took 4th ahead of LCD and a rather off the pace BruceD. A nice debut for Blazquez, setting some decent times and having a nice scrap with ctbr throughout, except for the big loses of time on some stages. Keep at it mate, the times will get better.

Paul still leads the championship at this point but the drop score is going to even things out later in the season.

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Next event is the fun event announced in 2 weeks time, for the Group B cars. Expect lots of fun there! :D

[Bruce D]

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Results books are being emailed to everyone now so expect it in the mail soon.

[Blazquez]

Hey there is a fault in the overall standing! xD at SS4 and SS5 i was 7th =O so i was at 3 stages 7th and rest 8 =P
and as i said =P terrible weekend xD the S2000 isnt my car... the Lancer WRC05 is more my car xD

[Bruce D]

You were 7th on 3 stages, SS1, SS4 & SS5. ;)

[Blazquez]

You were 7th on 3 stages, SS1, SS4 & SS5. ;)

So the Overall Position after each stage was wrong :D

Anyway it i will be still 8th overall =D nexst time better... anyone feel to rally against me in real? if i got my international license then i will visit a rally in wales! =D

[tannat]

Just 20 clicks out of second!!!!!

Have a feeling LCD would have been a bit faster in an S2000.

Enjoyed these stages- a nice one, Bruce D :up:

[Bruce D]

Yeah I liked the stages, not sure why I was so far off the pace on this one though. Only made little errors here and there. Then again I was only about a minute off the human's time and not that machine out front there called Francis! :p

[52Paddy]

Arse biscuits! I just read the first post in this thread and so thought I had until tomorrow to submit times. Ah well, not to worry. I shall be at the next round.

[52Paddy]

And, on reading the rally report, I notice there is a drop score so I haven't actually lost out :)

[lcd]

Nice!!! 4 drivers with a 21:xx:xx! Well done Francis! Great performances by Paul and Tannat! ( really enjoyed the battles between all 3 of us )
Didn't have top speed Indeed Tannat, but the Evo felt much better In handling, compared to the Punto. Blazquez, hope you enjoyed your first
entry In this series!