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manonaazreth
24th June 2010, 08:35
What is drifting exactly? Drifting is a driving technique and a motor sport where the driver intentionally oversteers the car, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels through corners, while preserving vehicle control and a high exit speed.

Click here to learn how to drift a car (http://619tips.blogspot.com/2010/06/how-to-drift-car-with-hand-brake.html)

Daniel
24th June 2010, 08:39
Wow, I post on a motorsport forum and I'd never heard of oversteer, drifting or a handbrake. What a load of bollocks talking about high exit speed. Drifting doesn't involve high exit speeds at all!

Hondo
24th June 2010, 09:34
Better yet, How to foolishly incur unnecessary tire wear in your garage with a belt sander thereby saving that gas money.

Daniel
24th June 2010, 09:35
Or synchronised skidding.

Valve Bounce
24th June 2010, 10:29
Oh you guys!!!!

wedge
24th June 2010, 14:04
http://www.1stuniquegifts.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/spam-for-lunch.gif

Captain VXR
24th June 2010, 18:59
spam can f*** off
by the way, drifting has high entry speeds, not necessarily exit ones (car power output/driver skill dependant)

Rollo
26th June 2010, 01:17
What is drifting exactly? Drifting is a driving technique and a motor sport where the driver intentionally oversteers the car, causing loss of traction in the rear wheels through corners, while preserving vehicle control and a high exit speed.


"Drifting is a "sport" for people who are too poor to afford a decent car, and lack the courage to try exactly the same techniques at 190km/h through a forest."
- Carlos Sainz, Motorsport News, Jan 2007.

Captain VXR
26th June 2010, 15:33
"Drifting is a "sport" for people who are too poor to afford a decent car, and lack the courage to try exactly the same techniques at 190km/h through a forest."
- Carlos Sainz, Motorsport News, Jan 2007.

http://www.thebritishdriftchampionship.com/news/index.asp?id=57

'Boyzone star Lynch and JapSpeed team mate Eyles are at the Scottish circuit to give a drifting demonstration today and were delighted to interrupt their practice session to give Adam and Collard a thrilling high-speed trip around the track...Airwaves BMW Team driver Jonny Adam said:"That was mega. It is totally different to what we do. The way they approach the corners is amazing and they really use the whole width of the circuit. We were sideways for so much of the time I was constantly looking out of the side window. It does feel slightly out of control for the first couple of corners but when you get used to the feeling is amazing"...Airwaves BMW Team driver Rob Collard said:
"That was a stunning experience. It is really great fun to go around the circuit like that. What these guys can do with the cars is absolutely awesome. The sliding is great fun and Shane had absolute control over the car."'

Captain VXR
26th June 2010, 16:01
http://www.thebritishdriftchampionship.com/news/index.asp?id=57

'Boyzone star Lynch and JapSpeed team mate Eyles are at the Scottish circuit to give a drifting demonstration today and were delighted to interrupt their practice session to give Adam and Collard a thrilling high-speed trip around the track...Airwaves BMW Team driver Jonny Adam said:"That was mega. It is totally different to what we do. The way they approach the corners is amazing and they really use the whole width of the circuit. We were sideways for so much of the time I was constantly looking out of the side window. It does feel slightly out of control for the first couple of corners but when you get used to the feeling is amazing"...Airwaves BMW Team driver Rob Collard said:
"That was a stunning experience. It is really great fun to go around the circuit like that. What these guys can do with the cars is absolutely awesome. The sliding is great fun and Shane had absolute control over the car."'

You could translate Sainz's words to club racing, and some drift cars are built with massive budgets, but since when does money or lack of it have anything to do with driver skill/balls. Most drift drivers have a lot of respect for rally drivers.

I could come up with similar things to Sainz:
Football is just some blokes kicking a ball
Rugby is just a load of blokes pissing around and fighting
Nascar is rednecks driving around in circles
Touring cars are glorified banger racers who dont have the balls to race at 190 kmh through a forest at night so instead use bg, open, wide circuits
Rallying is rich rednecks tearing through a forest
Basketball is people bouncing and throwing balls around
etc

Here's a drift car I really like:
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/04/28/car-feature-gt-gt-vaughn-gittin-jr-s-2010-mustang.aspx
Not some mid nineties Nissan with a bean can exhaust and a hovercraft bodykit, is it?
In fact, he's driving an even better one this year, and the old one is now his teammates, here's both of them:
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Linhbergh2010/June2010/driver%20blogs/FDNJ%20jr/IMG_0741.jpg

Has Sainz ever experienced drifting before?

There have been some nasty crashes in drift events, so it's not exactly risk free (although most championships have very strict saftey regulations like here (http://www.thebritishdriftchampionship.com/media/2010RulesRegulations.pdf))
Some competitors even try to get as close to the concrete walls lining the circuits at some events at 100mph+, sideways in cars they paid for (and sometimes built themselves), how many cars did Sainz compete in using his own money?

Asking a rally driver on drifting is like asking a classical music composer to review a Pendulum album, two completely different things with some small similarities

Edit - here's a forum member's, can't remember his username, experience at a drift event
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2010/05/05/behind-the-scenes-gt-gt-observations-of-a-drifting-newbie.aspx

Rollo
28th June 2010, 14:22
I could come up with similar things to Sainz:
Football is just some blokes kicking a ball
Rugby is just a load of blokes pissing around and fighting
Nascar is rednecks driving around in circles
Touring cars are glorified banger racers who dont have the balls to race at 190 kmh through a forest at night so instead use bg, open, wide circuits
Rallying is rich rednecks tearing through a forest
Basketball is people bouncing and throwing balls around


One thing runs common to all of those sports you mentioned. All of them are won and lost on the basis of objective performances.



Asking a rally driver on drifting is like asking a classical music composer to review a Pendulum album, two completely different things with some small similarities

No, quite the other way around. A pendulum can objectively measured and rated against the speed of other pendula. A classical piece of music can not be objectively rated.

Because drifting uses "style" and other subjective criteria which is judged much like gymnastics, or synchronised swimming is, its already on tenous ground whether its even a sport in the first place.
"I drift not because it is a quicker way around a corner, but the most exciting way." - Keiichi Tsuchiya
If even the creator of D1 makes such a comment, I really wonder whether or not Drifting should be put into the same category of something like the WWE.

Mark
28th June 2010, 14:58
No, quite the other way around. A pendulum can objectively measured and rated against the speed of other pendula. A classical piece of music can not be objectively rated.
.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_(band) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendulum_%28band)

Captain VXR
28th June 2010, 16:20
One thing runs common to all of those sports you mentioned. All of them are won and lost on the basis of objective performances.



No, quite the other way around. A pendulum can objectively measured and rated against the speed of other pendula. A classical piece of music can not be objectively rated.

Because drifting uses "style" and other subjective criteria which is judged much like gymnastics, or synchronised swimming is, its already on tenous ground whether its even a sport in the first place.
"I drift not because it is a quicker way around a corner, but the most exciting way." - Keiichi Tsuchiya
If even the creator of D1 makes such a comment, I really wonder whether or not Drifting should be put into the same category of something like the WWE.

Or the Red Bull Air Race, or Freestyle Moto X