View Full Version : [CZ, PL] Rally Bohemia, 2-4th July
Mirek
21st June 2010, 20:46
I decided to create separate thread since it's not only Czech championship but also Polish championship.
Entry list with 115 cars (14 S2000): http://www.rallybohemia.cz/2010/en/List_of_Entries_RB2010.pdf
Timetable: http://www.rallybohemia.cz/2010/en/Timetable_FIAEP_2010.pdf
Official site: http://www.rallybohemia.cz/2010/en/
Google earth maps: http://www.rallybohemia.cz/2010/en/html/google_earth.html
This rally have beautiful and very difficult stages. Top entries are Prokop, Hänninen, Valoušek, Kresta, Pech, Bouffier, Kajetanowicz, Kuzaj, Solowow, Kuchar or Tarabus. Also very nice competition in 2WD with Šlehofer, Bebenek, Černý, Brynda, Herbold, Dohnal, Minařík and others. Some other surprising entries like Marius Aasen.
Tom206wrc
22nd June 2010, 20:37
Nice entrylist indeed :)
Raven
23rd June 2010, 07:22
Can somebody recommend several good spectating places? I mean not the ones prepared by rally officials, but interesting to watch.
Mirek
28th June 2010, 12:37
There will be Fabia R2 as zero car probably.
Here is Kresta testing it:
http://img5.rajce.idnes.cz/d0510/3/3586/3586018_527c35afbfd24807356f8e0071b412d8/images/34089_1145896985429_1767686017_268963_390700_n.jpg
Mirek
28th June 2010, 22:49
Test Prokop and Tarabus: http://www.johnfoto.wz.cz/fiestas/
Walach
29th June 2010, 17:29
Tarabus crashed on test session today, car is badly damaged. I heard that roll cage is broken too...
Mirek
30th June 2010, 22:27
Tarabus will drive Fabia S2000 instead.
Francis44
30th June 2010, 23:03
]Tarabus will drive Fabia S2000 instead.
Damn I wish I had all this money and choice regarding rally cars.
Shame on me :p : .
wwbroe
1st July 2010, 05:18
]Tarabus will drive Fabia S2000 instead.
That is good news for us spectators. What team will he use car from Mirek? :)
ProRally
1st July 2010, 08:29
Tarabus crashed on test session today, car is badly damaged. I heard that roll cage is broken too...
Any pictures ?
Ondra WRC
1st July 2010, 08:34
That is good news for us spectators. What team will he use car from Mirek? :)
KIT Racing ;)
I see Valousek has an Evo2 Fabia...
Will be an interesting rally, if Hanninen can win here he will be well prepared for Barum.
Tom206wrc
2nd July 2010, 10:23
Pics shakedown and scruteneering :confused:
Shakedown results: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=6f1454c8a211c780a1925d5bc443b98f
Hipo1990
2nd July 2010, 14:34
First photos from shakedown
http://rallynews.pl/lang.en/no/galeria/691
Tom206wrc
2nd July 2010, 19:57
So Hänninen won the SSS ;)
]There will be Fabia R2 as zero car probably.
Here is Kresta testing it:
http://img5.rajce.idnes.cz/d0510/3/3586/3586018_527c35afbfd24807356f8e0071b412d8/images/34089_1145896985429_1767686017_268963_390700_n.jpg
That's an ugly duck :)
Hartusvuori
3rd July 2010, 08:41
http://rally-base.com/2010/rally-bohemia-2010/
Valousek taking the early lead.
That new evo Fabia is looking really nice:
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2010/mcr/bohemia/pe_a_271_hanninen_1.jpg
Hartusvuori
3rd July 2010, 09:37
SS4 cancelled.
So, on first service break Valousek leads but only by 0.3s to Hänninen. Bouffier is 2.8s behind and Pech and Kresta are within 11s also.
Bartek
3rd July 2010, 10:20
Maybe Meeke it's not necessary to win with new Evo 2 Fabia, Bouffier are very fast and he can win on Czech land with Czech drivers :)
I'm surprised how slow Prokop is. I didn't expect him right at the front, but...
toras
3rd July 2010, 12:33
on Bohemia Rally i very very hot,
but it's nothing for us,
on our page we've got a lot of galeries from rally bohemia:
http://rallynews.pl/lang.en/no/gallerylist/70/0/0
Hartusvuori
3rd July 2010, 13:21
Is this kind of pace normal from Tarabus nowadays or is he down only because the sudden car change? So far he has been slower than Solowow on all but SSS. Clearly Solowow has upped his game lately though.
Tom206wrc
3rd July 2010, 13:42
Who would have bet this: Leszek Kuzaj just crashed on SS7 a few seconds ago :confused:
Honza H.
3rd July 2010, 14:10
I'm surprised how slow Prokop is. I didn't expect him right at the front, but...
I have also been expecting a little bit more from him.
In the press release he made before the rally he mentioned that the Czech top drivers are incredibly fast this season (as he wittnesed manytimes as a spectator) and that the competition shall be extremely tough. More to that he mentioned that his priority is to get in the racing rhytm again and thus to prepare for the S-WRC tarmac rounds - so if he doesn´t make any major result, he won´t be disappointed.
Bartek
3rd July 2010, 14:11
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally-cz/video/10_bohemia_kresta_02.html : From 4:50 Roman Kresta had big action.
Honza H.
3rd July 2010, 14:29
Is this kind of pace normal from Tarabus nowadays or is he down only because the sudden car change? So far he has been slower than Solowow on all but SSS. Clearly Solowow has upped his game lately though.
The sudden car change surely plays its role, on the other hand, his tempo is more or less as usual this year - his overall result so far is not that different compared to his previous results this year: because if you take away "visitors" Hanninen, Bouffier, Solowow and Prokop, he´s right in his usual position in the overall standings.
Btw. Solowow is not that bad, so it´s no shame for Tarabus to be beaten by him...
Tom206wrc
3rd July 2010, 15:21
SS8 30' late(start at 5.00pm) :confused:
rallyelee
3rd July 2010, 15:59
on http://www.rallyesportfotos.de are a few photos from Friday in Sosnova online
reg. Jörg
http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10bo1.jpg
http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10bo11.jpg
http://rallyelee.ra.piranho.de/10bo30.jpg
Bobcat
3rd July 2010, 16:30
The sudden car change surely plays its role, on the other hand, his tempo is more or less as usual this year...
Oh boy, http://slovnik.seznam.cz/?q=more&lang=en_czmore, it's easier to compare Tarabus with Stajf. ;)
Hartusvuori
3rd July 2010, 17:23
Hänninen strikes back on SS9, being 4,2s faster than Valousek on only 4,84km stage. He's now in the lead. It's great to watch their battle - and Bouffier is not that far behind. Prokop also showed some speed on the previous stage. Alas for Pech about the puncture.
Bartek
3rd July 2010, 17:33
I think Bouffier and Kuchar out from rally. I don't see them in results... :(
Sorry, it's problem with results. Now Bouffier is second in SS9.
Juha_Koo
3rd July 2010, 17:36
Shame that for some reason Mediasport doesn't have intercom audio in Hänninen's onboards. :/
Tom206wrc
3rd July 2010, 18:56
Bouffier fastest on last SS of leg, and reduces gap to 3.5" with Hänninen :)
Tommorow will be looooong day though(four stages are more than 20km long) :cool:
Really close battle amongst the top three on Bohemia! Looking forward to tomorrow.
Kind of a nice warm up of what to expect on Barum :)
ProRally
3rd July 2010, 19:32
Who would have bet this: Leszek Kuzaj just crashed on SS7 a few seconds ago :confused:
oh really ?? :D :confused:
Honza H.
3rd July 2010, 19:48
Shame that for some reason Mediasport doesn't have intercom audio in Hänninen's onboards. :/
Some drivers don´t wish to reveal their itinerary (know-how) to the public, like e.g. Pech. I don´t know ho it´s in the case of Hanninen but that could be the same reason.
Bartek
3rd July 2010, 23:36
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/4885/dscf59721600x1200.jpg
It's not my photo, i found it at polish forum. People said section were Kuzaj crashed is very very fast and trees are near the route.
Salist
4th July 2010, 07:44
It's not too nice... :(
Tom206wrc
4th July 2010, 08:58
SS11 this morning was won by Bouffier again, who is now second(+3"4 from Hänninen) :cool:
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 09:48
Yes, a fantastic performance from Bryan so far. Today he´s got a better starting position, that means not that much gravel on the road. Still, it will be a nice battle!
Bartek
4th July 2010, 09:56
In the SS 12 Prokop lost 18 seconds to Hanninen! Awesome what is the difference between best IRC driver in overall standing and the SWRC fourth driver in overall standing. Solowow and Tarabus lose more than 1 second at one kilometer, it's very big gap.
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 09:56
In the SS12 Bryan and Valda losing a few secs to Hanninen, but remember, now there´s 28,41 km SS13 to come....
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 10:08
At SS 12 Prokop lost 18 seconds to Hanninen! Awesome what is the difference between best IRC driver in overall standing and the SWRC fourth driver in overall standing.
I would also like to see Martin perform a bit better but....
in my opinion, Martin is deliberately easing off now because he has no chance for the podium. Like he said before the rally, his priority is testing and getting in the rhythm.
So let´s wait for Germany what he´s really capable of on tarmac.
And also remember, as far as I know, his team should own only 2 cars, one of them currently damaged by Tarabus, so there´s also important to avoid any major damage to the car.
Tom206wrc
4th July 2010, 10:11
Go Bryan Goooooo :bounce: :bounce:
Tom206wrc
4th July 2010, 10:29
Michal Bebenek who was leading the 2WD and Citroën Racing Trophy lost a lot in SS12...puncture ???? ;(
Tom206wrc
4th July 2010, 10:33
Is SS13 starting later than scheduled ??? Normally it should have since about 8 minutes... :confused:
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 10:36
I wonder what Valda´s tactics will be now: will he be satisfied with the current position (he could secure points for the Czech Championship where the biggest contenders Kresta and Pech are behind him) or will he fight for the win?
So let´s wait for Germany what he´s really capable of on tarmac.
That should be interesting as I imagine a lot of the sWRC drivers are hopeless on tarmac. Prokop should be one of the best! Are Skoda Motorsport still planning to go to Rally Deutshcland?
Another point; previously Kresta and Valousek were quite close in Czech Championship events, now Valousek is a little bit ahead. Is this the difference between 1800mm Fabia and 1820mm Fabia on tarmac?
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 10:48
Another point; previously Kresta and Valousek were quite close in Czech Championship events, now Valousek is a little bit ahead. Is this the difference between 1800mm Fabia and 1820mm Fabia on tarmac?
Yes, it seems that the new Fabia of Valoušek makes this difference and that it shall be the decisive factor in the Czech championship. Kresta won Bohemia rally several times, but with Valda and Hanninen with new factory cars and with Bouffier also having a factory Peugeot (unlike Kresta) it´s hard to keep up the pace.
Yes, it seems that the new Fabia of Valoušek makes this difference and that it shall be the decisive factor in the Czech championship. Kresta won Bohemia rally several times, but with Valda and Hanninen with new factory cars and with Bouffier also having a factory Peugeot (unlike Kresta) it´s hard to keep up the pace.
Time for Roman to come back to the winged arrow :)
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 10:55
Time for Roman to come back to the winged arrow :)
Yes, that would be nice :) But the lack of budget is one the problems unfortunately :(
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 10:58
Hanninen winning S13! My all respect to him, he´s made such a huge progress on tarmac!
Hanninen winning S13! My all respect to him, he´s made such a huge progress on tarmac!
Yes, he has. I guess a lot of this is due to plenty of tarmac events in IRC, plenty of testing with Skoda Motorsport and maybe some tips from Jan. Jan is also progressing on gravel; Skoda's driver lineup is working nicely :)
Regarding Kresta; Peugeout Sport would be well advised to give Roman a free upgrade to the latest spec in time for Barum!
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 11:11
Yes, he has. I guess a lot of this is due to plenty of tarmac events in IRC, plenty of testing with Skoda Motorsport and maybe some tips from Jan. Jan is also progressing on gravel; Skoda's driver lineup is working nicely :)
Regarding Kresta; Peugeout Sport would be well advised to give Roman a free upgrade to the latest spec in time for Barum!
Let´s wait in what team, car and championhip we will see Hanninen next season.
I would not be surprised to see him in the factory car if the WRC.
Yes, a slight upgrade of Kresta´s car would be nice for Barum.
Let´s wait in what team, car and championhip we will see Hanninen next season.
I would not be surprised to see him in the factory car if the WRC.
There are not many factory seats, unless Wilson gets fed up with one of his current two Finns.
What about Skoda's plans for next year? More IRC whilst developing Fabia 1.6T?
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 11:30
What about Skoda's plans for next year? More IRC whilst developing Fabia 1.6T?
Skoda will continue with the current motor next year, no 1.6T development is planned so far. As the chief of the Škoda works team Mr. Hrabánek said, there´s no suitable 1,6T within the custom Škoda production, so they will have to "borrow" a suitable 1,6T from another VW group car - but if there will really be a new 1,6T developed, that´s a question still to be answered.
Here´s the source of the info (in German):
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/na/d2/n2/d/2010/06/29/skoda-vorerst-ohne-turbo/index.html
Skoda will continue with the current motor next year, no 1.6T development is planned so far. As the chief of the Škoda works team Mr. Hrabánek said, there´s no suitable 1,6T within the custom Škoda production, so they will have to "borrow" a suitable 1,6T from another VW group car - but if there will really be a new 1,6T developed, that´s a question still to be answered.
Here´s the source of the info (in German):
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/na/d2/n2/d/2010/06/29/skoda-vorerst-ohne-turbo/index.html
Hmmm, but there are no 1.6T engines in the whole of the VW Group. Only options are bored out 1.4TSI or sleeved down 1.8TSI.
I thought Skoda had previously confirmed development of the 1.6T?
tolis
4th July 2010, 14:00
Valousek had an accident in SS15. :(
Tom206wrc
4th July 2010, 14:05
Crash Valousek on penultimate stage :mark:
11" between Hänninen and Bouffier before the 28km long stage...me thinks victory is for the Finn and Skoda
Big fight for 3rd between Prokop and Kresta :D
toras
4th July 2010, 14:58
Some new photos from Bohemia Rally on www.rallynews.pl (http://www.rallynews.pl)
Tom206wrc
4th July 2010, 15:01
News about Bouffier last SS ??? They are long to give his time :confused:
Bartek
4th July 2010, 15:08
He start 4 minutes after Hanninen. He lost 9 seconds so he is 2 position in overall standing! Good job Bryan !
Tom206wrc
4th July 2010, 15:19
Yep indeed ;)
Bouffier also had to cure the car, as next week he'll run Rallye du Rouergue, next event of the french tarmac championship :p :
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 15:22
Hmmm, but there are no 1.6T engines in the whole of the VW Group. Only options are bored out 1.4TSI or sleeved down 1.8TSI.
I thought Skoda had previously confirmed development of the 1.6T?
That´s all I know. Maybe there´s more info available but I´m no insider. We have to wait for Mirek to read this, if there´s any more precise info available, he will let us know, for sure :)
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 15:27
Valousek had an accident in SS15. :(
I´m really sorry for him but the tempo of the top 3 must have been constantly on the edge. Given the speed, it´s almost a miracle that of the top 3 cars all 2 made it to the finish.
Great drive by Juho. He should be able to compete for a podium on Barum now.
Prokop sped up in the end to snatch the podium from Kresta, but 2minutes down at the end.
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 16:11
So Prokop said before the last section, that yesterday it seemed he had finally found the right set-up, but today he is struggling with it again and was really unhappy about that. He said that´s also because his car is primarily built for gravel, that there´s still a lot of work with the asphalt version of the car and that there´s no way that he would be able to use the current set-up in Germany.
Valoušek paradoxically tried to slow down before the accident.
Bartek
4th July 2010, 16:43
Do you see Michal Bebenek driving? He beat Clio R3 and other cars from class. Great driving!
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 20:23
According to PLuto´s info, Kresta´s dampers flew out (lost liquid inside) during last special stages.
Bobcat
4th July 2010, 21:25
hat there´s still a lot of work with the asphalt version of the car and...
Not the asphalt version of the car but correctly the asphalt set-up of his car. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=cs&sl=cs&tl=en&u=http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php%3Fid%3D14468
does anyone know spec of bouffier car? it was run by ph sport so I think it wasn't the same spec as i.e. meek used on ypres?
Honza H.
4th July 2010, 22:16
does anyone know spec of bouffier car? it was run by ph sport so I think it wasn't the same spec as i.e. meek used on ypres?
Bouffier´s car was definitely a factory one (according to PLuto). I don´t know if Meeke has got some priveleges as for the spec of his car, but PH Sport and Kronos should be on the same level as for their relation to Peugeot Sport.
Mirek
4th July 2010, 22:57
does anyone know spec of bouffier car? it was run by ph sport so I think it wasn't the same spec as i.e. meek used on ypres?
It was works car with latest possible upgrades. Some people told me that he used new evolution of engine homologated only one day before Bohemia!
Mirek
4th July 2010, 23:03
Not the asphalt version of the car but correctly the asphalt set-up of his car. http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=cs&sl=cs&tl=en&u=http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php%3Fid%3D14468
In fact they are heaving problems with tarmac version of the car whole season even with second car of Tarabus. The problem is that Czech roads are very bumpy and default tarmac suspension of Fiesta is very low. The car than touches ground very often and becomes suddenly undrivable when kicked by some bumps (as happened previously to Tarabus on Šumava for example). Problem is that with making car higher, it becomes too soft. It seems to be quite difficult to find some solution for our specific stages. Moreover Bohemia isn't that bumpy as Barum. Barum roads are generally much rougher.
Mikkelsen had this problem in test before Ypres also (on quite very bumpy road).
Bartek
4th July 2010, 23:08
"Peugeot Sport is working absolutely flat out in the background," said Meeke. "We will turn this around. We've got some developments coming for the next event, they're in the engine and suspension. They will make a difference, they will help us." - Meeke said this before Ypres. In Ypres he had upgrade or not? Maybe not and first rally when they used this are Bohemia?
Mirek
4th July 2010, 23:12
It was very nice but a bit too hot rally. I was also quite disappointed by Prokop. It wasn't only about times but his style wasn't that good. From what I saw he was sideways where he should be and clean where he should use handbrake. Also was breaking very early compared to other top drivers. On the other hand Hänninen, Bouffier and Valoušek were clearly much faster even by sight, Hänninen and Bouffier also very spectacular. Kresta was driving as usual, extremely agressive, last on brakes, with some hot moments but no top times. But he did quite well since he is only privateer and all faster guys had works machinery. If he didn't have technical problems and puncture, he would be much faster than JWRC world champion and PWRC vice-champion and that's nothing to be ashamed by.
Bartek
4th July 2010, 23:21
Mirek, can know something about Valousek crash? Hard? Condition of car?
Mirek
4th July 2010, 23:27
Not that bad. His car had damaged rear and was stucked off road. The car was otherwise drivable. Kuzaj and Štajf had bigger crashes.
Bartek
4th July 2010, 23:34
At second page I put photo Kuzaj car after crash.
Here's Habaj car after he crashed its Evo. I think he hit a tree. http://img.rallynews.info/g/2010/7/kogut_serwis/IMG_7857.jpg
Mediasport put a video from Valousek crash. http://www.mediasport.cz/rally-cz/video/10_bohemia_valda_15.html
Mirek
4th July 2010, 23:36
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally-cz/video/10_bohemia_kresta_02.html : From 4:50 Roman Kresta had big action.
From the onboard it seems to be a mistake of pacenotes or co-driver. He for sure said wrong number for the corner.
Valoušek's crash is here: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally-cz/video/10_bohemia_valda_15.html
Bartek
4th July 2010, 23:47
In Poland many drivers (without Bouffier and Bebenek) said the problem is 30km/h in recce. Polish driver don't like new stages because they don't know it and they can't drive max. They like old stages from Rally Elmot because they now it and they don't need pacenotes :p
Also in Kuzaj on board from SS3 you can see what a mistake he had in pacenotes. He hit the fence.
Raven
5th July 2010, 07:11
Polish driver don't like new stages because they don't know it and they can't drive max.
And Bouffier can? That very well sums up our drivers. They are fast only at home ground... Maybe they finally stop saying stupid opinions about how polish league is strong. It's rather average.
I saw the driving style of our "aces"... not fast, not spectacular. How can it be that top drivers on Bohemia were sliding often and they still can win stages and the whole rally? In polish rally drivers world there a "legend" it's impossible.
Raven
5th July 2010, 08:10
Strange accident of Valousek, looks like the egnine in the middle of the corner was turned off. He is down shfting but there is no engine sound so no chance to rescue from the crash...
Looks like some problems with the electronics/electrics as the dashboard is turning on anf off several times before the accident.
Wim_Impreza
5th July 2010, 09:03
What are the standings in the Czech and Polish Rally Championship now and does all results count for the championship? Thanks in advance.
Raven
5th July 2010, 10:06
PUNKTACJA RSMP
1. Sołowow 135, 2. Kajetanowicz 130, 3. Kuchar 119, 4. Kuzaj 68, 5. Bouffier 62, 6. Rzeźnik 51, 7. Frycz 34, 8. Habaj 29, 9. Butruk 21, 10. Rossetti 20.
PUNKTACJA MMČR
1. Valousek 166, 2. Pech 161, 3. Kresta 142, 4. Tarabus 93, 5. Prokop 42, 6. Arazim 38, 7. Petak 37, 8. Tlustak 33, 9. Stajf 31, 10. Sołowow 30.
In polish championships to be classified at the end of the season you have to drive in at least two rallies.
Francis44
5th July 2010, 10:09
It is a good time for Skoda to enter Valousek in more IRC rounds, he is on top of the game now.
Wim_Impreza
5th July 2010, 10:15
Thank you Raven.
Mirek
5th July 2010, 10:24
Strange accident of Valousek, looks like the egnine in the middle of the corner was turned off. He is down shfting but there is no engine sound so no chance to rescue from the crash...
Looks like some problems with the electronics/electrics as the dashboard is turning on anf off several times before the accident.
I spoke with Zdeněk Hrůza and he told me that they were simply too late on brakes and that it was their mistake.
The dashboard was ok in my opinion. It's common that on onboards from Fabia it looks like switching on and off often but it may be something with video freqency or something like that. I'm not expert in that but I noticed that with almost all Fabia onboards.
Raven
5th July 2010, 10:56
]I spoke with Zdeněk Hrůza and he told me that they were simply too late on brakes and that it was their mistake.
He didn't even tried to accelerate when drifting? No throttle means no grip. It looks like already during the slide he thought "****, everything is lost. No sense to try anything...". The look of his face after the accident looks exactly like this.
Bartek
5th July 2010, 11:10
He didn't even tried to accelerate when drifting? No throttle means no grip. It looks like already during the slide he thought "****, everything is lost. No sense to try anything...". The look of his face after the accident looks exactly like this.
I think it's a second, he can't do nothing, he not going 40km/h but he had 4 or 5 gear before corner. Look here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSOJLidhrso . I think other cars rode here with more cautions.
Francis44
5th July 2010, 11:10
No turbo car means less power on exit, it's easy to see that it's much easier to get on without those mistake on turbo powered cars.
Mirek
5th July 2010, 11:12
Skoda will continue with the current motor next year, no 1.6T development is planned so far. As the chief of the Škoda works team Mr. Hrabánek said, there´s no suitable 1,6T within the custom Škoda production, so they will have to "borrow" a suitable 1,6T from another VW group car - but if there will really be a new 1,6T developed, that´s a question still to be answered.
Here´s the source of the info (in German):
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/na/d2/n2/d/2010/06/29/skoda-vorerst-ohne-turbo/index.html
Mr. Hrabánek said opposite few months before for Sport.cz. Anyway having no stock 1.6T in VW portfolio is no problem. New WRC engine may be built completely from scratch without any stock base (and it will be built from scratch at least by Citroën).
]New WRC engine may be built completely from scratch without any stock base (and it will be built from scratch at least by Citroën).
Wow, I thought the new regulations were supposed to be cost cutting!
Mirek
5th July 2010, 11:58
It was supposed to be a way into the sport for manufacturers without suitable engine in their production.
]It was supposed to be a way into the sport for manufacturers without suitable engine in their production.
Does this also mean manufacturers could by an off-the-shelf engine from an outside supplier such as several teams do in F1 with Cosworth?
Mirek
5th July 2010, 12:10
I don't know.
Bobcat
5th July 2010, 14:41
]In fact they are heaving problems with tarmac version of the car whole season even with second car of Tarabus. The problem is that Czech roads are very bumpy and default tarmac suspension of Fiesta is very low. The car than touches ground very often and becomes suddenly undrivable when kicked by some bumps (as happened previously to Tarabus on Šumava for example). Problem is that with making car higher, it becomes too soft. It seems to be quite difficult to find some solution for our specific stages. Moreover Bohemia isn't that bumpy as Barum. Barum roads are generally much rougher.
Mikkelsen had this problem in test before Ypres also (on quite very bumpy road).
As a matter of fact, you are talking about the drivers and their setups but it's not a problem with tarmac version of the car.
Bartek
5th July 2010, 14:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iyT_mJnfpw Where is a place from first seconds of movie or what stage?
Mirek
5th July 2010, 15:07
I think that it's GPS 50°40'55.291"N, 15°17'43.494"E. Spectator place of SS Návarov.
Some nice photos of the rally: http://spangler.cz/photos/rally_bohemia_10/
R.Kutej
5th July 2010, 17:35
photots R Kutěj
http://www.rkutej.com/index.php?/category/172
]I think that it's GPS 50°40'55.291"N, 15°17'43.494"E. Spectator place of SS Návarov.
Some nice photos of the rally: http://spangler.cz/photos/rally_bohemia_10/
As usual: A W E S O M E :)
@Kutej: well done too.
Mirek
5th July 2010, 22:43
Video from Luboš Lahola: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCOqhaDUzPA
Bartek
5th July 2010, 23:09
]Video from Luboš Lahola: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCOqhaDUzPA
Nice video!
Vojtech start in all season or only ocasional in Bohemia and Barum? He rode very slow...
Mirek
5th July 2010, 23:13
Bohemia was his first real rally after 3 years and it was only one start. He races only on circuits now.
Raven
6th July 2010, 11:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iyT_mJnfpw Where is a place from first seconds of movie or what stage?
This is SS15, place D803 on the map.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4101/4764455305_c113d2f1bc_b.jpg
Mirek
6th July 2010, 14:27
And finally great photos by DoN: http://www.rallyphotos.cz/photos/rally_bohemia_2010/
Bartek
6th July 2010, 15:14
]And finally great photos by DoN: http://www.rallyphotos.cz/photos/rally_bohemia_2010/
Fantastic!
Mirek
7th July 2010, 00:59
Great video: http://www.rallyebild.de/DVDTrailer2008/dvdtrailer2010.htm
Ondra WRC
8th July 2010, 09:15
My photos from Rally Bohemia 2010: http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=946&fotograf=143&all=1
Mirek
8th July 2010, 11:06
Best of onboards with crisis, crashes (Valoušek, Běhálek), battling with technical problems, (Vojtěch, Kresta in the end etc.), punctures: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally-cz/video/10_bohemia_thebestof.html
Video with famous Návarov bridge (starting 2:37): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1-kVnNe5tA
Mirek
9th July 2010, 12:51
Another spectacular video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJNUPRaDzI
polo10
9th July 2010, 14:12
]Another spectacular video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usJNUPRaDzI
Sorry because off-topic, Mirek what about Fabia R2, was it in Bohemia rally?Any news?
Thanks
Mirek
9th July 2010, 14:29
Yes, there were two present. One was used before zero cars and one was displayed in service. Unfortunately the crew was driving without helmets and not really fast.
The only thing I can tell You is time from Sosnova SSS which was 1:50 and 1:48 if I remember right (with average driver). For comparison Černý and Bebenek had around 1:41 and they were fastest C2 R2 Max drivers.
The car is on Reiger suspension, has 5-speed Sadev sequential gearbox and they say it has 190 Hp. Now they are Waiting for production of specific number of cars with 1.6 engine in Russia to homoogate R2 at 1st August.
polo10
9th July 2010, 14:33
]Yes, there were two present. One was used before zero cars and one was displayed in service. Unfortunately the crew was driving without helmets and not really fast.
The only thing I can tell You is time from Sosnova SSS which was 1:50 and 1:48 if I remember right (with average driver). For comparison Černý and Bebenek had around 1:41 and they were fastest C2 R2 Max drivers.
The car is on Reiger suspension, has 5-speed Sadev sequential gearbox and they say it has 190 Hp. Now they are Waiting for production of specific number of cars with 1.6 engine in Russia to homoogate R2 at 1st August.
Thanks a lot...any photo?
Mirek
9th July 2010, 14:37
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_eed28c999313718e1edadff44e6fc900.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_7554f278997f16f8885dcab4db752f56.jpg
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Bartek
9th July 2010, 23:27
Not beautiful but Mirek, maybe you have got times, if we compare new Fabia R2 with C2 R2 who is the winner?
Mirek
10th July 2010, 11:40
As I already wrote before, they drove stages without helmets not on full speed. The only meaningful times are from SSS but still hard to say how much was in driver's hands.
tolis
10th July 2010, 11:46
]As I already wrote before, they drove stages without helmets not on full speed. The only meaningful times are from SSS but still hard to say how much was in driver's hands.
Mirek, do you know who drove the car?
Mirek
10th July 2010, 11:56
Dušan Kouřil
tolis
10th July 2010, 12:01
]Dušan Kouřil
Thanks! :)
Mirek
14th July 2010, 00:34
Awesome video: http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=14545&title=video-rally-bohemia-2010-od-alese-trhlika
Bartek
14th July 2010, 10:22
Bouffier on Bohemia started with old engine - said Olivier Quesnel
Walach
14th July 2010, 10:40
I can´t believe him. I was there and it just wasn´t old engine...
wwbroe
14th July 2010, 10:55
I can´t believe him. I was there and it just wasn´t old engine...
I agree with you Wallach, i was there also and i think he used new engine. :)
Jarek Z
16th August 2010, 21:34
I know I am slow, but I finally managed to upload my photos from Bohemia Rally, very nic event, by the way! :)
http://rallyonline.pl:84/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=5004
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