Colin Mcrae Dirt.

[spyros]

Its coming fast,here's the box http://www.digitaldisplacement.com/?p=2508

[306 Cosworth]

Why is there a Toyota Supra on the front cover :s

[306 Cosworth]

Also any sign of an official car list, hope the Peugeot Cosworth is included, like it was meant to be :D

[AndyRAC]

Also any sign of an official car list, hope the Peugeot Cosworth is included, like it was meant to be :D

I think if it was we would have heard by now, though I still hope so, Although some of the cars in earlier series had no right to be in a rally game.

[I am evil Homer]

Like the VW Beetle?!! Audi A3 etc

[RALLY TEAM GB]

but having the likes of the VW Beetle and the Audi A3 were actually cars that they thought of as "concept" rally cars

[spyros]

More news here http://computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=160015

[Iain]

Like the VW Beetle?!! Audi A3 etc

To be fair there are Audi A3s rallying out there. That looks like a Pikes Peak Toyota with the big rear wing on it. Having seen the screenshots Pikes Peak appears to be on the game. :D

[306 Cosworth]

Hope that's true Iain, will be completely stupid otherwise :s

[Helstar]

Not bad uh ? Image taken from the 'secret' Colin Dirt website.

http://windsofwar.supereva.it/colin.jpg

[RALLY TEAM GB]

http://www.whoneedsroads.co.uk/ check it out

[306 Cosworth]

Finally we will have a Mark 2 Escort :D

[pino]

It's so cool to have the 131 Abarth Olio Fiat in the game :up:

[Helstar]

It's a pity they have already said no realistic physic like RBR ... :\ (because according to them it would be a commercial suicide).

http://windsofwar.supereva.it/screenshot_175586.jpg

http://windsofwar.supereva.it/screenshot_175587.jpg

http://windsofwar.supereva.it/screenshot_175590.jpg

[306 Cosworth]

Wow looks like we get a 307 WRC and C4 WRC then :D I want an official car list!!!!!

[Neil J]

I want some great stages to drive. More important to me than a long list of cars that I`m not going to bother with.

[pino]

Wow looks like we get a 307 WRC and C4 WRC then :D I want an official car list!!!!!

Of the classic cars at the moment I know we will have the Escort, Stratos, and the 131 Abarth :D

[I am evil Homer]

It's all about the stages and physics for me. Doesn't look good for physics....CMR stages were always good in every game, just need to be longer!!

[spyros]

If i'm not wrong is this the livery of the 307 Toni drive last year?

[AndyRAC]

It's all about the stages and physics for me. Doesn't look good for physics....CMR stages were always good in every game, just need to be longer!!

Personally I feel that the stages in the first game were the best, if a little short. However they're never going to be very long as if my memory serves me a codemasters spokesman stated that they would never have really long stages, as this wouldn't suit the average gamer.
Any news on whether the Peugeot-Cosworth is in the game.

[Rat]

what sort of PC can handle this game? Looks great....

[Helstar]

Personally I feel that the stages in the first game were the best, if a little short. However they're never going to be very long as if my memory serves me a codemasters spokesman stated that they would never have really long stages, as this wouldn't suit the average gamer.
Any news on whether the Peugeot-Cosworth is in the game.
They have already said that we will have two versions of some stages - a 'complete' one, and some small SS using parts of the entire stage.
And one of these, 100% sure: Pikes Peak.

It's a pity that we can forget a good physic. It will be more arcade like all the others CMR. Forget RBR (actually in the Codemasters forum if somebody say these 3 letters the admins post the usual "OH NO NOT AGAIN !" ^^).

what sort of PC can handle this game? Looks great....
They are PS3 shots. About pc I think we will need a good shader 3.0 videocard (starting from Geforce 6x00 or ATI X1x00).

[pino]

. Forget RBR (actually in the Codemasters forum if somebody say these 3 letters the admins post the usual "OH NO NOT AGAIN !" ^^).




LOL you're right, I've posted that peopel would go crazy if they made a CMR
2 sequel for PS3, no reply from the Adm :p :

[Rat]

I might just be able to get it running

[spyros]

http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/driving/cmr07/news.html?sid=6167783&mode=recent

[Zico]

Also any sign of an official car list, hope the Peugeot Cosworth is included, like it was meant to be :D

Would be a great car to have but Ive never heard any rimours about it..

Colins R4 will be in the game tho..!

[spyros]

video http://media.video.ign.com/ev/ev.html?dlURL=http://ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/776/776131/CMR_DIRT_20060326_flvhighwide.flv&object_ID=826337

[pino]

I've just watched...looks great ! :D

[Helstar]

Hi-res here http://rapidshare.com/files/23284084/dirt_fmv_pal_hidef.wmv

confirmed CG (= it's not in-game play).

I'm kinda happy because the second part is horrible (the behaviour of the car, tipically rotating in a "central axe" like CMR5 and such).
The dune buggy part is interesting (but I care more for the rally aspect, Pikes Peak arf *droll* !).

[Helstar]

Finally a in-game video ! Wow impressive. What a pity ... all this graphic probably wasted for a 'simple' arcade ...

http://rapidshare.com/files/23284084/dirt_fmv_pal_hidef.wmv

http://windsofwar.supereva.it/dirt-20070328082810672.jpg

[I am evil Homer]

Looks like the stage is about 4 minutes long judging by the completion bar. Hmmm....

[AndyRAC]

Looks like the stage is about 4 minutes long judging by the completion bar. Hmmm....

Codemasters obviously don't listen to their customers, how often have people asked for longer stages. That doesn't look too long to me. If people don't feel they're listened to, they won't buy the game. Look at the recently released Brian Lara game, it's been about as well received as Hitler at a Jewish fancy dress party. Why they don't listen ,I don't know.

[tmx]

It's a pity they have already said no realistic physic like RBR ... :\ (because according to them it would be a commercial suicide).

yes i am bothered by this too. i was disapointed by toca racer driver, with its lack of weight transfer and how the car stayed so long in the air when you jumped was ridiculous. i hope they don't apply the same feeling to this game.

[Zico]

Anyone know if DIRT will support Force feedback Wheels?

[Viktory]

Anyone know if DIRT will support Force feedback Wheels?

Yes, it will. Although I've heard the H-pattern gearbox on the G25 isn't supported.

[306 Cosworth]

Any more news/pics?

[Helstar]

Any more news/pics?
http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/article-colin-mcrae-dirt-6557-0-0.html

Graphic ok. Physic bad.

[pino]

I agree with you Helstar, graphics are amazing, physic looks like WRC serie :s

[I am evil Homer]

Oh dear....the physics looks liek CMR£ and that stupid centre pivot :( :(

The graphics, camera postions (love bonnet cam on the Impreza) and sound are all great. But that's not a rally game, it's an arcade.

WRC 4 was much better physics than even that. Oh dear....looks like RBR on PS2 still for me!

[spyros]

Preview at http://pc.ign.com/articles/783/783739p1.html

[pino]

Class 1
Citroen C4 Concept Car
Colin McRae R4
Fiat Grande Punto Super 2000
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX
Peugeot 307 WRC Astra Rcg MC06
Peugeot 207 R Cup Super 2000
Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C

Class 2
Citroen C2 Super 1600
Opel Corsa Super 1600
Renault Clio Super 1600
Suzuki Swift Super 1600

Class 3
Lancia Delta S4
Peugeot 205 T16
Subaru Impreza WRX-RA STI version II
Toyota Celica GT-FOUR

Class 4
Fiat 131 Abarth
Lancia Stratos
McRae Motorsport Escort Mk2
New Stratos by Fenomenon
Renault 5 Maxi Turbo

Class 5
Audi TT
Citroen Xsara 4x4 T16
Lotus Exige
Saab 9-3 T16

Class 6
BMW X3 CC X-Raid
Dakar Nissan Pickup
Mitsubishi L200 Triton
Mitsubishi Pajero EVO MPR11
Rally Raid UK Desert Warrior
VW Race Touareg

Class 7
Kamaz 4911
MAN TGA

Class 8
CORR Super Buggy 1
CORR Super Buggy 2

Class 9
Chevrolet Silverado
Toyota Tundra

Class 10
Ickler Jimco buggy
McMillin Racing Car

Class 11
Audi quattro S1 Pikes Peak
Mitsubishi FTO
Peugeot 405 T16 Pikes Peak
Suzuki Escudo
Toyota Celica GT Pikes Peak
Toyota Tacoma

Class 12
Freightliner Century Class S/T
Kenworth T2000


Nice but where's the Focus ? :s

[AndyRAC]

Class 1
Citroen C4 Concept Car
Colin McRae R4
Fiat Grande Punto Super 2000
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX
Peugeot 307 WRC Astra Rcg MC06
Peugeot 207 R Cup Super 2000
Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C

Class 2
Citroen C2 Super 1600
Opel Corsa Super 1600
Renault Clio Super 1600
Suzuki Swift Super 1600

Class 3
Lancia Delta S4
Peugeot 205 T16
Subaru Impreza WRX-RA STI version II
Toyota Celica GT-FOUR

Class 4
Fiat 131 Abarth
Lancia Stratos
McRae Motorsport Escort Mk2
New Stratos by Fenomenon
Renault 5 Maxi Turbo

Class 5
Audi TT
Citroen Xsara 4x4 T16
Lotus Exige
Saab 9-3 T16

Class 6
BMW X3 CC X-Raid
Dakar Nissan Pickup
Mitsubishi L200 Triton
Mitsubishi Pajero EVO MPR11
Rally Raid UK Desert Warrior
VW Race Touareg

Class 7
Kamaz 4911
MAN TGA

Class 8
CORR Super Buggy 1
CORR Super Buggy 2

Class 9
Chevrolet Silverado
Toyota Tundra

Class 10
Ickler Jimco buggy
McMillin Racing Car

Class 11
Audi quattro S1 Pikes Peak
Mitsubishi FTO
Peugeot 405 T16 Pikes Peak
Suzuki Escudo
Toyota Celica GT Pikes Peak
Toyota Tacoma

Class 12
Freightliner Century Class S/T
Kenworth T2000


Nice but where's the Focus ? :s

I thought that, no Focus, big mistake, and is the Lancer Evo a WRC or a Gp N car like in the last versions, not many WRCars. As for the others, the 131 isn't in Alitalia colours and the Mk11 Escort isn't one of the classic liveries. Not sure yet, remain to be convinced.

[RALLY TEAM GB]

no other Fords due to license problems i imagine...

i think the game will be great...you know i have said this before...you get some people who are not pleased with the game...you get some people who are...look at sales and you will see that people are happy with the games...i would think that the reason for the games being certain ways is due to the cost, licenses etc???

[RALLY TEAM GB]

dont get me wrong i am not happy as the Focus and Fiesta arent in the game...even the MG ZR

[RALLY TEAM GB]

dont get me wrong i am not happy as the Focus and Fiesta arent in the game...even the MG ZR

thats life

[Neil J]

I aren`t too bothered about what cars are in it but the line-up doesn`t look that good, I wont miss a Focus ;) and you can keep the buggies, as long as the stages are great to drive I`ll be happy :)

[pino]

None cares about this game anymore ? :p :

[Mixa]

I do and yes I think Ford isnt up because of the licensing probs. For that we cant do anything and every car list dont make every fan happy. Atleast we got 2 amazing B.gr and the Impreza 555 (Subaru Impreza WRX-RA STI version II) Im not sure is that the Impreza 555 but its among the other classics and in some Japanese Subaru site there was said that its the 555 Subaru.

Even when there is just a few WRC cars and for C4 there is just the concept what looks a bit different these days,The S2000´s and such will still make it ok. As a Rally-Raid fan I cant wait to drive these cars :D

What comes to classic livery stuff,the blue/yellow colours on 131 Abarth is still a factory colour and quite a legendary too but yes many of the cars will be for sure in privateer colours. If you want updated stuff by the fans,Im sure that PC-DVD version is then the right choice.

[Daniel]

Looks OK. Graphics look very much like NFS Most Wanted which is OK but the physics as people have said is crap and if I didn't know better I'd say it was an official WRC game looking at the lack of skill required to drive fast.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Hope its a good game!

[pino]

A new video (6 min) :

http://www.jeuxvideo.com/gaming_live/0000/00000826/colin_dirt_f1q0.htm

sorry it's in french :p :

[tmx]

Too bad no Focus, its such an important car in rallying. Similar to a LeMans game without Porsche?

[spyros]

Ouaou look at the setup options,i wonder how they work,it seems codies put in some work at physics!


What setup options are available?
Camber (front / rear).
Toe (front / rear)
Suspension stiffness (front / rear),
Ride height (overall)
Bump Damping strength (front / rear),
Rebound damping strength (front / rear)
Fast Bump strength
Fast Bump activation
Final Drive ratio
Individual gear ratios
Brake Bias
Brake Disc size
Brake Pad hardness
Central Diff Torque Split
Limited-Slip Diff acceleration locking (front / rear)
Limited-Slip Diff deceleration locking (front / rear)
Downforce
Anti-Roll Bars (front / rear)

[pino]

Too bad no Focus, its such an important car in rallying. Similar to a LeMans game without Porsche?

I've asked one of the Admn on Codies forum about it, not only didn't get the answer but he also got mad at me :s They have probably found out it was an huge mistake, because a rally game without the Focus isn't a rally game... btw among the news on the game, stages have an avarage of 6km, again i expected a longer distance. But I won't post it there or they will ban me :p :

[Daniel]

Typical Pino :p always causing trouble :p

Maybe it's just me but I could care less if the Focus is in the game. Sure it's nice to have lots of cars and different types of liveries but what counts is gameplay. You can make it so you can adjust the type of nuts on the wheels but if it doesn't make any difference then the game is still crap. Have you never gone out on a stage in a rally game and set a good time on the stage with a setup that just shouldn't work? That's what I have always been able to do in CMR games :mark: Set the brake bias all the way to the rear and the car is still perfectly controllable. Codemasters need to work on that sort of stuff if they want to make this game worth buying :mark:

[AndyRAC]

Having been on the Codemasters website and forum, they seem to be over defensive about no Ford cars in the game. In fact they keep asking people not to mention it, and that they can't talk about it. Something we should know ...???? I was hoping the stages would be longer, and there are only 6 per country.

[pino]

Latest news about this game : no tyres choice :s

[janneppi]

I've asked one of the Admn on Codies forum about it, not only didn't get the answer but he also got mad at me :s They have probably found out it was an huge mistake, because a rally game without the Focus isn't a rally game... btw among the news on the game, stages have an avarage of 6km, again i expected a longer distance. But I won't post it there or they will ban me :p :
To be fair on them, you were propably the 45784th person who asked them about Fords not being there. :p :
Always use the search button first. :)

[pino]

To be fair on them, you were propably the 45784th person who asked them about Fords not being there. :p :
Always use the search button first. :)

I've asked in a nice way, and got a rude reply, probably they can't deal with all the complains from rallyfans about this game :down:

[janneppi]

As far as i saw, you asked a question which was answered few post later(not to you but to another member) then you asked the same question three months later :p :, no wonder the guy is frustrated, it's not his fault he's not allowed to talk about it and he get's a lot of flak from "rallyfans" about it.

[pino]

Yes it was answered on another thread not the thread I posted the question :p : not a big deal anyway, I am more mad about the game and the poor rally content included :(

[Iain]

It's just like what they did with the ToCA series. They can't concentrate on one form of racing (BTCC) as they think it won't sell much, so they add as much variety to it as possible, so the game becomes full of unnecessary cars and it takes a bit away from the actual gameplay. The PS1 CMRs didn't have all the extra things on them, just simple rally cars and stages.

If I get a PS3, I will definitely buy this game. Probably because it's quite easy and I get really frustrated with difficult games sometimes. :o

[306 Cosworth]

If I get a PS3, I will definitely buy this game. Probably because it's quite easy and I get really frustrated with difficult games sometimes. :o


You not a RBR fan then? :p :

[Iain]

I've never played it. :)

[306 Cosworth]

:s hock: You should!

[Neil J]

I've never played it. :)


Do you know what your missing out on? Get out and buy RBR today :D

[pino]

I've never played it. :)

About time that you play a "real" rally-game then ;)

[spyros]

new vids at http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/movies/stream/947/Colin-McRae-DIRT.html

[tmx]

Do you know what your missing out on? Get out and buy RBR today :D

i use keyboard, but it find it impossible to control the car in this game. even after messing with the filter settings. what do you use to drive in this game, but i am not willing to buy big steering wheels. i dont understand, but its easier to drive my car in the real world than in this game.

[janneppi]

It's nearly impossible to drive RBR without an analog contoller(wheel/pedal or a joystick), i wouldn't want to drive a real car with keyboard buttons either. :)

[Helstar]

Tomorrow an official demo published !

But like we say here in Italy I expect "tutto fumo niente arrosto" ^^


I've never played it. :)
Take a look at this video and you'd understand why it's the best game ever ... http://rapidshare.com/files/32838584/Viktory_East-West.wmv

[Neil J]

Anyone played the demo yet?

[Helstar]

Anyone played the demo yet?
I'm still downloading ...
Here http://www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showthread.php?t=1391207&page=6 there are some pretty nice shots ... most of the people say "great graphic bad physic" but it seems that with a wheel things improve. Can't wait to test it with my DFP :p

Download finishes in deep night >_>

[Daniel]

Didn't know the demo was out! About to start downloading now. Codies site is running slow. I guess a lot of people are hitting it for the demo.

Getting 170K/s from Gamershell. Will only take an hour and a bit to download :)

[Helstar]

What a pity. Heavy but wonderful graphic (needs a ninja videocard ^^) - maybe too much bloom though - the crashes are fantastic, the car gets destroyed in the most accurate ways !

It's a pity the physic is so weak. It's even worse than CMR5 maybe :s

[Daniel]

Grrrr. The download didn't complete :mark:

[306 Cosworth]

Wish I had a computer good enough to download this :( Guess I will just have to wait until I get a PS3! Will have to work all summer and save up for one!! Turn 18 in June so it will be hard, balancing saving and spending money on nights out in the Summer! :p :

[Helstar]

Wish I had a computer good enough to download this :( Guess I will just have to wait until I get a PS3! Will have to work all summer and save up for one!! Turn 18 in June so it will be hard, balancing saving and spending money on nights out in the Summer! :p :
Take an X360, the Colin Dirt demo was published yesterday too :p

It is much better than PC (constant frame rates no drivers problems ...).

Most of the people with a video card worse than ati x1900 or nvidia 7950gx2/8800 got 'stuttering' even at low details ... :s

[306 Cosworth]

I'd rather save up for a PS3, have always been a sony person and i'm not changing :p :

[Helstar]

I'd rather save up for a PS3, have always been a sony person and i'm not changing :p :
Yes but you are not going to see Colin Dirt soon ... (maybe late this year).

Plus PS3 not really well designed (yes, also X360 but less than PS3 lol). The only 'good' thing is that they cost less than a Geforce 8800 gtx/ultra alone.

But I prefer to waste my money on PCs anyway xD

[306 Cosworth]

Ah well, I'm sure I can wait :)

[Daniel]

Yes but you are not going to see Colin Dirt soon ... (maybe late this year).

Plus PS3 not really well designed (yes, also X360 but less than PS3 lol). The only 'good' thing is that they cost less than a Geforce 8800 gtx/ultra alone.

But I prefer to waste my money on PCs anyway xD
Good man :)

We may disagree with some things to do with rallying but we agree on the console vs PC thing at least ;)

You're wasting yoru breath on him though. If I remember correctly he once said "What would Microsoft know about games" to which I replied "They've only made games for ages, joysticks, steering wheels and last but not least the OPERATING SYSTEM on which most games are played........

If someone wants to buy a Sony product because they want to buy a Sony product that's fine but to ignore the fact that the 360 is cheaper, just as good and comes with an established online community is sheer lunacy in my opinion.

I just built the following system for £285 quid
Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 (only bought it because CPU prices will be falling even further in July ;) )
Asus P5B Deluxe Wi-Fi
2Gb Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800

Following parts were reused from my old system
Antec P180 case
Antec NeoHE 550w PSU
Logitech G15 keyboard and G5 mouse
ATI X300 128mb card (getting a replacement in the next week or so as I could afford it when I built the PC)

So with the addition of a X1950 XT I have a PC which costs 10 quid more than a 60gb PS3 and does a lot more.

I always always always say to people if they are considering buying a console "If your PC is less than a year old spend that money on your PC and it will be much much much better than that console you want to buy" or sell your PC and put the money from that together with the money you were going to spend on a console and you'll get a kickarse PC!!!!!

What are your system specs Helstar? :)

[Peugeot206WRC]

This was a terrible sucky game.
Amazing graphics, sound and damage physics but its even more arcadish then earlier CMR games.
CRAP GAME

[Helstar]

What are your system specs Helstar? :)
Intel C2D E6600@3300mhz (2400 default) cooled by Zalman 7700 silent mode, mb Asus P5W Deluxe (average overclocker but there was this one or the Intel BadAxe to choose for a Core 2 Duo cpu back in summer 2006 ...), 2GB ddr2 Twinmos, psu OCZ Powerstream 420W, hard disks WD Raptor 74GB for the OS + Samsung 500GB sata2 as storage, videocard Nvidia Geforce 7950gx2. Quite happy about the results I have with this, I can't complain ! (surely not really cheap but I'm an hardware addicted ^^).

If somebody release a recent mod version of the Forceware for this Asus motherboard (which is not SLI, got a 975x chipset, it supports ATI Crossfire) I could take another 7950gx2 when I find another one for less than 200$ lol (no 8800 they suck too much energy anyway ! And I don't care about dx10 at the moment - I don't have Vista too so ...).

This was a terrible sucky game.
Amazing graphics, sound and damage physics but its even more arcadish then earlier CMR games.
CRAP GAME
So true http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/cry.gif

But congrats to the programmers because it has been discovered that it actually uses dual core CPUs (but it fails to work with no SSE2 processors ^^).

[Daniel]

Intel C2D E6600@3300mhz (2400 default) cooled by Zalman 7700 silent mode, mb Asus P5W Deluxe (average overclocker but there was this one or the Intel BadAxe to choose for a Core 2 Duo cpu back in summer 2006 ...), 2GB ddr2 Twinmos, psu OCZ Powerstream 420W, hard disks WD Raptor 74GB for the OS + Samsung 500GB sata2 as storage, videocard Nvidia Geforce 7950gx2. Quite happy about the results I have with this, I can't complain ! (surely not really cheap but I'm an hardware addicted ^^).

If somebody release a recent mod version of the Forceware for this Asus motherboard (which is not SLI, got a 975x chipset, it supports ATI Crossfire) I could take another 7950gx2 when I find another one for less than 200$ lol (no 8800 they suck too much energy anyway ! And I don't care about dx10 at the moment - I don't have Vista too so ...).


Veeeery nice system :)

Tbh from what I've heard about Quad SLi with 2 x 7950 GX2's it doesn't work too well :mark:

If I run into a bit of a wall with games I get a much better CPU cooler and will overclock my E4300 but it seems to be doing fine at the moment :)

Last night I ordered an X1950XT 512 so this system should be able to crush most games now :)

[ArrowsFA1]

Take an X360, the Colin Dirt demo was published yesterday too :p
And it looks very nice too :s mokin:

[Daniel]

Intel C2D E6600@3300mhz (2400 default) cooled by Zalman 7700 silent mode, mb Asus P5W Deluxe (average overclocker but there was this one or the Intel BadAxe to choose for a Core 2 Duo cpu back in summer 2006 ...), 2GB ddr2 Twinmos, psu OCZ Powerstream 420W, hard disks WD Raptor 74GB for the OS + Samsung 500GB sata2 as storage, videocard Nvidia Geforce 7950gx2. Quite happy about the results I have with this, I can't complain ! (surely not really cheap but I'm an hardware addicted ^^).

If somebody release a recent mod version of the Forceware for this Asus motherboard (which is not SLI, got a 975x chipset, it supports ATI Crossfire) I could take another 7950gx2 when I find another one for less than 200$ lol (no 8800 they suck too much energy anyway ! And I don't care about dx10 at the moment - I don't have Vista too so ...).

So true http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/cry.gif

But congrats to the programmers because it has been discovered that it actually uses dual core CPUs (but it fails to work with no SSE2 processors ^^).
Got my X1950XT 512 today but picked it up on the way to work so haven't tried it out in anger yet :D The demo just wouldn't install with the X300 so it should be a bit better now. Nice to see I'm not the only PC nut on this forum though ;)

[Daniel]

What a pity. Heavy but wonderful graphic (needs a ninja videocard ^^) - maybe too much bloom though - the crashes are fantastic, the car gets destroyed in the most accurate ways !

It's a pity the physic is so weak. It's even worse than CMR5 maybe :s
WTF???????????????????????????

I finally got my new graphics card today and it works but at 1280x960 it looks great but I only get abour 15 fps with everything turned right up. I'm hoping this is just the fact that it's a demo but if the real game is like this most people are going to get CMR5 style graphics if they want things to be playable.

Physics are weird as hell and playing with anything less than 30 fps is suicide because the car just becomes uncontrollable. But as Helstar said it does appear to utilise dual core from what i could see on the LCD screen on my keyboard :D So that's at least something positive.

[Neil J]

I managed to get my copy of DIRT today for the Xbox360, only had chance for about 20mins of play. A quick blast down of 4 stages in a revvy S2000 Grande Punto.

So far so good, I`m liking it, but need more play time for a decent review.


Neil :D

[306 Cosworth]

Is the actual game been released now?

[pino]

Is the actual game been released now?

Yes but only the xbox and PC version, PS3 owners must wait until Oct 5th :mad:

[Daniel]

Yes but only the xbox and PC version, PS3 owners must wait until Oct 5th :mad:
Pino. Blame it on Sony for using the Cell processor which is notoriously difficult to code for :p

[306 Cosworth]

Ah well I still doubt I will have a PS3 then, at least that way any glitches in the game can be ironed out for the PS3 version.

[ArrowsFA1]

Picked up the game yesterday and haven't had too much time to play yet, but first impressions:

- Very different to Forza
- Far more arcade than simulation
- Very nice graphics
- Neat menu system
- Varied races/rallys
- Big career mode
- Fairly easy so far, even upping the difficulty level
- Car handling could and should be better

7/10

[pino]

Picked up the game yesterday and haven't had too much time to play yet, but first impressions:

- Very different to Forza
- Far more arcade than simulation
- Very nice graphics
- Neat menu system
- Varied races/rallys
- Big career mode
- Fairly easy so far, even upping the difficulty level
- Car handling could and should be better

7/10

So now you've got both Dirt and Forza2... :hmph: ;)

[Neil J]

I`ve found, like Forza2, the more you play DIRT the better it gets, though it is quite easy, very arcade. I`m buzzing through the career mode without any problems. I`ve now got some half decent cars and the stages seem better for that, a decent feel of speed. Handling is so so, I thought/hoped it would be better. Graphics and sound are good but quite impressed with the menu as I`m not keen with the menu on Forza2.

I can imagine playing Forza2 still in 12 months time, not sure the same can be said for DIRT and I love rallying. We shall see, hope I`m wrong.

Overall it`s a 7/10 from me too. So far :)

[bennizw]

Pino, from where do you have the realease date of 5th October for the PS3 version?

[ArrowsFA1]

I can imagine playing Forza2 still in 12 months time, not sure the same can be said for DIRT
I agree with that. Dirt is very enjoyable to pick up and play for a while, but Forza has far more depth and life in it.

Pino, get yourself a 360 ;) :s mokin:

[pino]

Pino, from where do you have the realease date of 5th October for the PS3 version?

http://www.jeuxvideo.fr/



I agree with that. Dirt is very enjoyable to pick up and play for a while, but Forza has far more depth and life in it.

Pino, get yourself a 360 ;) :s mokin:

I've just bought PS3, can't afford xbox too :( : :p :

[tmx]

This was a terrible sucky game.
Amazing graphics, sound and damage physics but its even more arcadish then earlier CMR games.
CRAP GAME
I really anticapted this game and had some optimism, but I have to agree. It manage to annoy me more than Toca Race Driver 3, where the AI cars voluntarily rams into you. I just played the demo and uninstalled it shortly. The menu system alone gives me seizure. Then there the annoying flashing thing in the start and the annoying talking codriver. The pacenote is so bad, I rely on it since I don't use onscreen arrows, left six, left right, its just very counterintuitive. The worse has to be the control, over sensitive and just couldn't get it right. I was also looking for the option to turn of the hdr lighting but there wasn't.

I think the stages were alright and provide some new challanges than the previous games because there are a lot of destructable 3d objects this time. I only know the stage from the demo, but it looked straighter and smoother.

[tmx]

Okay, I gave it another try after watching a few youtube videos on it. This time is much better experience because I messed around with the controller filters and greatly reduced the oversteering. It feels like they try to make the car slides less to make it easier, but it also makes the handbrake not helping the back of the car swing as much. I think the car stays on the air too much for wow factor. I also gave the multiplayer a try and I have to admit they improved the organization on it very much. I can't get used to that bad pacenotes reading. I might pick it up if I can find a cheaper used copy on ebay, but I'm not willing to pay full price for this. But here is a youtube video for those interested: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RFP02mA4HxY

[AndyRAC]

Don't have an XBOX 360 or PS3, even if I did don't think I'd buy this game. It seems like a sell out to the Yank market, what's with the American co-driver? Less Rallying in it than before, sorry no thanks, I'll stick with the other McRae games. Remember the first one from 1998, fantastic game, awesome stages.

[306 Cosworth]

That video of the game looks awful, the steering wheel doesn't even move :s Hope it's better when it's on PS3!

[306 Cosworth]

OOps only just realised that was a video of the Demo! Maybe the real game is better?

[Exhausted]

I am slowly starting to love the game even though it leaves much to be desired!

I have uploaded a video from a crash I had at Pikes Peak to my homepage here: http://jtl-media.com/rally/

Again.. Does anybody here know how to extract .pssg files? I am dying to start modding the game!

[Brown, Jon Brow]

The co-driver is American? :eek: Thats a complete p1ss take! I wont be buying it when i get a 360. :mad:

The co-driving was best on CMR2 when you were given a distance-gear-direction. They seemed to simplify it on the rest. although CMR4 co-driver was good, (even though I didn't own that game)

[306 Cosworth]

Maybe he was only American in the Demo? Hopefully they have Nicky Grist for us?

[pino]

Maybe he was only American in the Demo? Hopefully they have Nicky Grist for us?

No Nick Grist mate, only the american codriver also in the game :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuW17bXx-o&v2

crazy isn't it ? :s

[Daniel]

Who cares. No need for racism. As long as the co-driver can be heard and give the right notes I don't care if he has a russian, italian, spanish or whatever accent.

[Neil J]

Thankfully no Nicky Grist either ;)

There`s still plenty of wrong and late notes. You do get used to the co-driver eventually. The handling is pants, not enough sliding about and the brakes, heck, more like an F1 car on tarmac than a rally car on gravel. I cant slate it too much because I actually like it and it`s great fun afterall.

I cant beleive some of you are still playing those old crappy CMR 2/3/4 games.

Move on with the times ;) :)

[tmx]

I will always love cmr04. So is old movie and music.


OOps only just realised that was a video of the Demo! Maybe the real game is better?

That's just me turning off the drivers model and all the "need for speed" effects, it looks ridiculous with the drivers hand though because with keyboard he swings the wheel all over the places. I'm not racist, just the codriver has a bad voice with no tone and the pacenotes are very bad. No I won't get use to it, there's something else special about the pacenotes reading other than just reading it aloud.

I like how the gears grunt while handbraking over a hairpin up hill, and harder to reach higher speed going up hill.

I've read the game review and contrary to what I thought about the multiplayer, it is actaully very limited.

[pino]

Who cares. No need for racism. As long as the co-driver can be heard and give the right notes I don't care if he has a russian, italian, spanish or whatever accent.

What racism ? I personally think that an american codriver isn't the most appropriate to put in a rally game, especially if it's a Colin McRae game...it's very annoying and irritating ! Nothing to do with racism...

[Daniel]

It's a voice, an accent. Whether the person is from Botswana or Belgium it doesn't matter as long as they are clear.

[pino]

It's a voice, an accent. Whether the person is from Botswana or Belgium it doesn't matter as long as they are clear.

That's your opinion not mine, I don't like it !

[Brown, Jon Brow]

One of my favourite features of CMR was that you got to have Nicky Grist as co-driver. It really enhanced the game.

[Daniel]

That's your opinion not mine, I don't like it !
I bet if it was always Britney Spears doing the pace notes people would complain if Nicky Grist started doing them. I just bought Dirt and the co-driver is fine......

[Peugeot206WRC]

This is one of the suckiest game Ive played if you takes it as a rally game and not a arcad car game.
The handling of the car is embarrasing compared to older rally games.
The graphic is amazing, but that doesnt mean **** if the feeling is ****.
Its worse then the WRC games, older CMR games and RBR.
Ill uninstall it and wait for future if someone could come with a RBR handling mod for this game and get rid of this arcad feeling.

[Daniel]

I'll go against the general opinion and say that I think the handling is OK. It's nowhere near as bad as the WRC series where you have to make a conscious effort to have an accident and the car is just on rails. The handling is nothing to write home about but it's not really that bad. I don't like how the cars handle over bumps at all though.

Co-driver is fine. Other than the fact that they've sometimes got the notes a little late and sometimes he seems to call out about 300 notes at once and you're trying to listen for the last note and you've forgotten what the first one is and you crash :p

I'm playing the PC version so perhaps the handling is a bit better on the PC version?

[306 Cosworth]

I'm not gonna bother with this game, the cars sound awful, they look like they handle on rails, you have a stupid ridiculous sounding american co-driver and tbh this is probably an even worse game than Tommi Makkinen Rally!

[306 Cosworth]

Just to add well done Codies for further f*cking up the Colin McRae game line.

[Daniel]

I'm not gonna bother with this game, the cars sound awful, they look like they handle on rails, you have a stupid ridiculous sounding american co-driver and tbh this is probably an even worse game than Tommi Makkinen Rally!
The cars certainly don't handle as if they're on rails in the PC version....

[306 Cosworth]

They certaintly look like it on the videos, how well can you slide these cars then?

[Daniel]

They certaintly look like it on the videos, how well can you slide these cars then?

The videos really don't do it justice. The cars do slide nicely, it's just that the people doing the vids are generally fairly in control ;) Also if you like sideways you'll LOVE the rallycross section. It's also quite good to play multiplayer. I love having a flawless run and having an equally good driver dicing with me for the lead from corner to corner :D

[306 Cosworth]

I suppose I could try it and then sell it if I don't like it.

[Daniel]

I suppose I could try it and then sell it if I don't like it.
Yup. Want to know something that's criminal? I paid £20 for the PC version. How much does the 360 version cost? £37........ that's highway robbery and another reason why people should stick with PC's!

I tried to take videos last night and it just didn't do it justice.

[306 Cosworth]

£20! God that is cheap! Where did you get it from? these next gen consoles are pushing PC game prices down by the seems of things and PCs can still do these games justice!

[Daniel]

I think it was Virgin. I typically pay between £5 (old games bought on Amazon) to perhaps 30 quid for a game I really really really want. I also try to buy games through online distribution systems like Steam. That way you don't need to worry about scratching discs and losing them. You simply have an account and put your username and password in and it downloads the game ;)

[306 Cosworth]

lol nice, all legal is it Daniel? ;)
Do you think I could get a new PC cheaper than a new PS3 that is capable of playing RBR and MCDirt?

[Daniel]

Yes it is legal ;) and I don't mean that in a wink wink kind of way.

Basically you can just download steam, pay for the game and download it :) Much better than having to go to a store and buy a game and worry about losing the product key or cd or anything like that. Plus it automatically updates the game when a new patch comes out :)

Any newish PC can play RBR from what I've seen. Dirt is a strange one. Perhaps it's just the fact that I'm playing it on Vista but it's not as fast as I'd like it to be. but yes you could get something that would play CMD quite well for the same price as a PS3 and you'd have the benefit of being able to upgrade it in the future ;)

[306 Cosworth]

Sounds good about the Steam thing, i'm guessing it's got competitive prices?

Yea I suppose that's true about the PC it can be upgraded, hmmm will have to see after the summer and see how much money I have.

[Daniel]

Prices are generally quite good. Only thing is they don't sell all games. Manufacturers would rather you pay 10 quid more for a disc, dvd case and manual that cost them 20p to mass manufacture ;) So only companies who choose to be part of steam are part of steam. EA have got their own online distribution system as well but I don't know about codies.

[Peugeot206WRC]

I must agree on what 306 says about the cars look like going on rails.

It also feels so when driving, its almost flat out and turn until you reach finish.
In the non-moded game you can go flat out and break in less then a sec on gravel, do a hairpin turn with full speed.
(theres some things you can do with some files to get less grip and brake power, but that feels even more stupid)
Theres so good grip and acc you can almost think you driving a F1 on very smooth tarmac and the car physics is not as good as RBR, the cars just floating over the surface.
If your wheel are out of the track, dont worry, it wont slow you down or give you any steering problems, like in RBR or in reality, just push down the throttle and steer it back on track.

The only thing in this game I think feel little realistic are those dirt cars, I think they are RWD cars and you have to adjust your speed on throttle if you want to have a good slide through the corner.

Been playing this game sometimes just to killing some time and because im tired of RBR.
The only thing that keeps me playing is to crash the cars actually, the game is to arcad to enjoy it as a rally game.

[Daniel]

I must agree on what 306 says about the cars look like going on rails.

It also feels so when driving, its almost flat out and turn until you reach finish.
In the non-moded game you can go flat out and break in less then a sec on gravel, do a hairpin turn with full speed.
(theres some things you can do with some files to get less grip and brake power, but that feels even more stupid)
Theres so good grip and acc you can almost think you driving a F1 on very smooth tarmac and the car physics is not as good as RBR, the cars just floating over the surface.
If your wheel are out of the track, dont worry, it wont slow you down or give you any steering problems, like in RBR or in reality, just push down the throttle and steer it back on track.

The only thing in this game I think feel little realistic are those dirt cars, I think they are RWD cars and you have to adjust your speed on throttle if you want to have a good slide through the corner.

Been playing this game sometimes just to killing some time and because im tired of RBR.
The only thing that keeps me playing is to crash the cars actually, the game is to arcad to enjoy it as a rally game.
Are you playing it on 360 or PC?

[Stuartf12007]

dirt is an excellent game and plays superbly on the ps3 killer the xbox360.

[pino]

dirt is an excellent game and plays superbly on the ps3 killer the xbox360.

I am getting the xbox and the game, soon I will let you know whether you're right or wrong ;)

[306 Cosworth]

MCDIRT isn't on PS3 yet

[pino]

MCDIRT isn't on PS3 yet

That's why I am getting an xbox :crazy: :p :

[Peugeot206WRC]

Are you playing it on 360 or PC?

PC, tried it on a friends 360 with controller too, not very different feeling in the driving.
I find the gameplay lot smoother on the 360 though.
When PC works very hard on something besides dirt it could start lag, this didnt excist on the 360.

[Daniel]

PC, tried it on a friends 360 with controller too, not very different feeling in the driving.
I find the gameplay lot smoother on the 360 though.
When PC works very hard on something besides dirt it could start lag, this didnt excist on the 360.
That's because you had the graphics settings up too high.

[306 Cosworth]

That's why I am getting an xbox :crazy: :p :

I was referring to the post above yours Pino, sorry :)

[Peugeot206WRC]

That's because you had the graphics settings up too high.

No it wasnt, as I wrote in my post I said it starts lag if I have something the computer working on besides DIRT, nothing to do with the graphics since it runs smooth on ultra withouth any programs eating my RAM.

[ArrowsFA1]

I had a cracking online race on Pikes Peak - the full hillclimb - the other night. Real pressure, because you can see your online opponents times. I was having a ding-dong battle right to the very end, and finished 2nd just 10ths of a second away from the winner. Great stuff :s mokin:

[Daniel]

I had a cracking online race on Pikes Peak - the full hillclimb - the other night. Real pressure, because you can see your online opponents times. I was having a ding-dong battle right to the very end, and finished 2nd just 10ths of a second away from the winner. Great stuff :s mokin:
What's your username? :p

You may have raced against me :p

[pino]

I had a cracking online race on Pikes Peak - the full hillclimb - the other night. Real pressure, because you can see your online opponents times. I was having a ding-dong battle right to the very end, and finished 2nd just 10ths of a second away from the winner. Great stuff :s mokin:

Didn't you say you were a crap driver ? :s :p :

[ArrowsFA1]

What's your username? :p
Emjay UK :cool:


Didn't you say you were a crap driver ? :s :p :
Well, I didn't say that my opponents were any good... ;)

[Daniel]

Emjay UK :cool:


Well, I didn't say that my opponents were any good... ;)
I wonder if PC and Xbox 360 people get to play together :mark: Would be fun if we did ;)

[Neil J]

The more you play the better it gets, great fun, `specially online, I too have had some great, close racing - the full Pikes Peak is awesome and I`m really enjoying the stages. The best cars by far must be the RWD, I love that MK2 Escort :cool:

[pino]

Yesterday I got both the xbox and the game ( birthday presents in advance) :D the codriver still annoys me but I love the game so far :up: online ? not until I get use to the handling :p :

[tmx]

For those who has pc version, you can download the HDR Tweeker: http://www.gamersfiles.net/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=437
It allow you to turn off the HDR which will improve fps. I think the game look better and more real than before with it off.

[Daniel]

Codemasters really need to put some work into their game in regards to getting it running at a decent speed. The way it runs even on good PC's is truly apalling and when you turn the graphics down just a bit it becomes a very ugly game. You shouldn't have to disable HDR to get decent FPS on a decent PC.

[Iain]

I had a few games of the rallycross in the 131 Abarth in Virgin today and was impressed by the graphics. Car control felt a bit different to the PS2 versions of CMR3/4/5, but it was still decent. Had a quick shot of the rallying and the co-driver annoyed me. :s

[pino]

Can you guys please post your best time achieved in Pikes Peak ?, I just want to verify how crap I am :p : Don't forget to mention the car you drove/used...thanks ;)

[Exhausted]

My best run at the Pikes Peak was

09:00.94 in the Quattro (Hill climb unlimited)

[ArrowsFA1]

A mate has borrowed the game from me for a while so I concentrate on Forza, but IIRC I did a 8:08 in the mad Pennzoil Toyota...hanging on for dear life all the way up the hill :eek: :p :

[pino]

As I am still stuck on tier 9 (Sardina stages) I am not sure the version I've raced it's the entire distance, so how long is the version you guys have raced ? I still want to know how crap I am :p :

[Ramore]

Can you tell me how to turn the co-driver's voice on? It is really frustration to drive without co-driver.

[pino]

Can you tell me how to turn the co-driver's voice on? It is really frustration to drive without co-driver.

Go to sound options, and increase the volume of the codriver. You sure the voice is off ?, normally by default its on ;)

[tmx]

Can you guys please post your best time achieved in Pikes Peak ?, I just want to verify how crap I am :p : Don't forget to mention the car you drove/used...thanks ;)
7:21.95 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fyNIWzJyEOU) suzuki escudo
it's a pretty straight forward track, half asphalt at that, i see it more like a race track, just try to pick the straightest line, the only tough part are the hairpins. i'm just going to say that this car is unrealistically easy to handle and stay on the road too well.


Go to sound options, and increase the volume of the codriver. You sure the voice is off ?, normally by default its on ;)
the codriver is extremely annoying, and sucks, i rather keep it low and have the map on and only use what he said as reminder after you learned the stage, sometimes he said the corner after i passed it.

[rimmer10]

Suzuki Escudo 7;17.79 after tweaking the set up abit