Pirelli win control tyre..AGAIN

[AndyRAC]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/82766

Wow, what a shock...NOT!!

Disappointing that a 'Premier' series has a spec tyre. When will they learn? Yet the other series allows many makes.....
It's not as if Pirelli are doing a great job; Argentina, Japan, GB 2008 - all unsuitable tyres.

[RS]

There was no choice, Pirelli were the only ones to tender.

As the article says this is just for next year then the FIA will decide whether to stick with a control tyre or open it up. AFAIK BFG/Michelin are only interested if they can compete against other brands.

[bluuford]

I think it is relatively good news. They extended it only by one year. Now they have one more year to fix proper rules for tire manufacturers so that testing will not cost too much for competitors etc. Making rules in hurry is not a good thing.

[Henrii6]

I hope they can fix some rules about the tires. I remember alot of teams being dissapointed about the Pirelli tyres in the past and It put a little shadow over some rally's.

[Sulland]

So the rest of the companies that wanted to give a tender backed off.

I guess they are waiting for the new car in 2011, lets see.

[ProRally]

Lets hope for 2012, free tyre choice....

[dimviii]

i can t understand why so many people don t like the single tyre supplier in wrc.
No differences at all from tyres for everyone.from Loeb to Wilson.
Would it be better if we had 2 tyre suppliers and the one of them had a better tyre for gravel?Same in asphalt events.I think that with single tyre supplier we can see who is better/faster much more easily,even with different cars.
Wrc drivers have no problems with that,even the french Loeb with french car without the french tyre manufacture, but spectators have problem with that? ;)

[Mirek]

Because single tyres keep many possible new drivers out of WRC. Many drivers all over the world have tyre makers as their sponsors and almost all of them can't enter WRC before of that. And what WRC needs now the most is more crews.

[dimviii]

can you telm me the drivers with a different tyre manufacture that he didn t participate in wrc due to this?

[Mirek]

Mikkelsen's IRC campaign sponsored by Hankook for example. Also many locals in every event which are missing in last years - like Kumho drivers in Ireland, Yokohama or MRF drivers in Japan, BFG drivers everywhere - think also about Juho Hänninen. He is Škoda Motorsport driver and he can't start in WRC events under Škoda Motorsport banner because of their BFG deal. It's big complication for him as he must use car of BRR or Škoda Italia who have agreements with Pirelli and in the same time are official partners of ŠM. But they don't have free car for him everytime as Škoda Italia didn't have for Sweden. You can apply this to almost every IRC team.

[Tomi]

]Mikkelsen's IRC campaign sponsored by Hankook for example. Also many locals in every event which are missing in last years - like Kumho drivers in Ireland, MRF drivers in Japan, BFG drivers everywhere - think also about Juho Hänninen. He is Škoda Motorsport driver and he can't start in WRC events under Škoda Motorsport banner because of their BFG deal. It's big complication for him as he must use car of BRR or Škoda Italia who haw agreements with Pirelli and in the same time are official partners of ŠM. But they don't have free car for him everytime as Škoda Italia didn't have for Sweden.

Easy to agree, tyres are so closely bound to motorsport, and therefore always potential sponsors for privateers.
But at the same time, do you think that teams like Skoda this time would have resourses to use the full potential that it would bring, if there would be several makes? Last time they did not have.

[Mirek]

Easy to agree, tyres are so closely bound to motorsport, and therefore always potential sponsors for privateers.
But at the same time, do you think that teams like Skoda this time would have resourses to use the full potential that it would bring, if there would be several makes? Last time they did not have.

Don't get me wrong I don't speak about Škoda as a team ;)

I wanted to say that IRC manufacturers have exclusive contracts with BFG and therefore they can't send their official cars into WRC events even for single shoots like in Juho's case. I don't think it's that big problem for teams but it makes problems to works drivers like Juho who sometimes wants to drive in WRC but using Pirelli make their start much more complicated.

And also think about the future. Will necessary change of tyre supplier help to attract IRC manufacturers to join WRC in 2011?

[dimviii]

]Mikkelsen's IRC campaign sponsored by Hankook for example. Also many locals in every event which are missing in last years - like Kumho drivers in Ireland, Yokohama or MRF drivers in Japan, BFG drivers everywhere - think also about Juho Hänninen. He is Škoda Motorsport driver and he can't start in WRC events under Škoda Motorsport banner because of their BFG deal. It's big complication for him as he must use car of BRR or Škoda Italia who have agreements with Pirelli and in the same time are official partners of ŠM. But they don't have free car for him everytime as Škoda Italia didn't have for Sweden. You can apply this to almost every IRC team.

Mirek all these are well known.But we are talking about WRC.
If Taguchi with MRF tyres is not participate in rally Japan due to regulations thats not the problem at WRC this time.Something else is the problem,and you know that.

I have only to say a big bravo to Pirelli for beeing in rallies for much more years than anyone else.
Michelin/BF had not better offer than pirelli last time.

[Tomi]

]Don't get me wrong I don't speak about Škoda as a team ;)

I wanted to say that IRC manufacturers have exclusive contracts with BFG and therefore they can't send their official cars into WRC events even for single shoots like in Juho's case. I don't think it's that big problem for teams but it makes problems to works drivers like Juho who sometimes wants to drive in WRC but using Pirelli make their start much more complicated.

I know you are not, but I happen to know quite much about what did happen in Skoda last time, (not only official releases) and I think it is a good example, control tyre is a way to put smaller teams or teams with less resourses on the same line with the bigger teams, soon as there will be more tyre makes the devloping starts again, and then the small teams are the loosers, thats what i mean.

[dimviii]

I know you are not, but I happen to know quite much about what did happen in Skoda last time, (not only official releases) and I think it is a good example, control tyre is a way to put smaller teams or teams with less resourses on the same line with the bigger teams, soon as there will be more tyre makes the devloping starts again, and then the small teams are the loosers, thats what i mean.

Number 1 reason for me.
Loeb and Villagra with the same tyre.
No special tyres ONLY for works teams.

[Mirek]

I know you are not, but I happen to know quite much about what did happen in Skoda last time, (not only official releases) and I think it is a good example, control tyre is a way to put smaller teams or teams with less resourses on the same line with the bigger teams, soon as there will be more tyre makes the devloping starts again, and then the small teams are the loosers, thats what i mean.

Sorry, but I haven't noticed any new manufacturer attracted by single tyres in those three years. In my opinion it's minor issue compared to cons it brings. But ok, let's use single tyres but why for privateers also?

[Tomi]

]Sorry, but I haven't noticed any new manufacturer attracted by single tyres in those three years. In my opinion it's minor issue compared to cons it brings. But ok, let's use single tyres but why for privateers also?

Same here, but i dont think the tyre thing is any reason to join or not, thats about bigger things, its now made very easy to join so there will come new teams soon, no matter what the tyre rule will be.
But for me it's the same, there is good points and not so good, but the benefitters on the control tyre is the smaller teams.

[Ghostwalker]

i'd like to see a return of the specialized tires.Proper gravel tyres for gravelrallies, slicks for tarmacrallies and real wintertires for winterrallies.

It doesn't have to be more then 2 types of each; soft and hard for gravel & Tarmac, and perhaps softgravel and softwinter for the winter rallies.