2010 IRC Rally Islas Canarias

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Rally Islas Canarias joins IRC schedule
Eurosport Events, the promoter of the Intercontinental Rally Challenge, has today announced that Rally Islas Canarias ‘Trofeo El Corte Ingles’ will replace Rally Principe de Asturias on the 2010 IRC schedule.


The event will become the fourth round of the 12-event IRC series and take place from 28 April-1 May.

A one-year agreement has been reached between Eurosport Events and the Canarias Sport Club with an option for a two-year extension.

Confirmation of Rally Islas Canarias’ inclusion in the IRC is the result of a successful collaboration between Eurosport Events and Real Federacion Espanola de Automovilismo. This was instigated after the organisers of Rally Principe de Asturias decided they could not honour the terms of their agreement with Eurosport Events and declared they would no longer host the IRC round, which had been due to run from 9-11 September.

Marcello Lotti, the General Manager of the IRC, said: “We are grateful to President Carlos Gracia Fuertes, of Real Federacion Espanola de Automovilismo, who supported the IRC in finding a quick and solid alternative solution after Rally Principe de Asturias encountered financial issues. Rally Islas Canarias enjoys a good reputation and benefits from a strong organisational background. We are hopeful this partnership will not be a one-off experience.”

Rally Islas Canarias is an all-tarmac event and is one of the most famous rounds of the Spanish asphalt championship. The rally organisers are making special arrangements for IRC international regular teams to transport their cars and equipment to the event.

The revised 2010 Intercontinental Rally Challenge schedule is as follows:

Round: Event (Country) Date (Surface)
01: Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo (Monaco) 19-23 January (Asphalt)
02: Rally Internacional de Curitiba (Brazil) 04-06 March (Gravel)
03: Rally Argentina (Argentina) 19-21 March (Gravel)
04: Rally Islas Canarias (Spain) 28 April-01 May (Asphalt)
05: Rally d’Italia Sardegna (Italy) 04-06 June (Gravel)
06: Geko Ypres Rally (Belgium) 24-26 June (Asphalt)
07: Sata Rally Açores (Portugal) 15-17 July (Gravel)
08: Rali Vinho Madeira (Portugal) 05-07 August (Asphalt)
09: Barum Czech Rally Zlín (Czech Republic) 27-29 August (Asphalt)
10: Rallye Sanremo (Italy) 23-25 September (Mixed)
11: RAC MSA Rally of Scotland (United Kingdom) 15-17 October (Gravel)
12: FxPro Cyprus Rally (Cyprus) 04-06 November (Mixed)

http://www.ircseries.com/

[noel157]

Sergio, which island is the rally on? Gran Canaria or Tenerife?

[Sergio-Rallymax]

On Gran Canaria Noel157.

On the website of the rally have all the information you need. If you need something more, ask me.

http://www.RallyIslasCanarias.com

[RS]

Well if the IRC regulars will go to Canarias than I will welcome it because it will fill a very big gap in the calendar.

[bluuford]

Well if the IRC regulars will go to Canarias than I will welcome it because it will fill a very big gap in the calendar.

Their schedule will be quite tight to get the cars back to Europe and prepare for Canarias and then to the ship again. Logistically it seems that it fits nearly perfectly. maybe couple of reserve days as well if everything goes as planned.

[sal]

Good luck to Gran Canaria! After the heady days of El Corte Ingles its nice to see them getting top line rallying back on the island. If I wasnt off to Barbados I might just have gone to watch as have enjoyed my previous trips!

[Sergio-Rallymax]

If someone decides to come and needs some type of additional information, which it does not hesitate to ask here or to send a private message.

Apart from the Rally IRC, there will be a rally separate, where they were informing vehicles that are not accepted by the FIA for the IRC or for ERC Cup WEST. In this rally can take part the Spanish/normal GT, the Spanish N+, as well as WRC's, Kit Car's, Groups B or vehicles that have lost the homologation FIA or without homologation that they can take part in the Canary Championship (so called Groups TA or TN).

[VFTS]

If someone decides to come and needs some type of additional information, which it does not hesitate to ask here or to send a private message.

Apart from the Rally IRC, there will be a rally separate, where they were informing vehicles that are not accepted by the FIA for the IRC or for ERC Cup WEST. In this rally can take part the Spanish/normal GT, the Spanish N+, as well as WRC's, Kit Car's, Groups B or vehicles that have lost the homologation FIA or without homologation that they can take part in the Canary Championship (so called Groups TA or TN).

N4+....? Is that 36 mm restrictor?

[Mirek]

Yes and some more changes to make them lighter I think.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

I believe that the door of the porter, the back doors and the crystals are lightened, this in the N4 +.
On the other hand, in the Spanish championship the S2000 they can run with a reduction of 50kg. If they wanted to run with this reduction they would have to go out in the second rally.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

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[pettersolberg29]

Any news on whether or not Mikkelsen will be going there? He planned Asturias I beleive so I assume he will do it but its ahead of his IRC schedule.

[VFTS]

Any news on whether or not Mikkelsen will be going there? He planned Asturias I beleive so I assume he will do it but its ahead of his IRC schedule.

He will start in Rallye Canarias

[pettersolberg29]

Great news.

[RS]

Eurosport Events are organising sea freight from Argentina to Canarias. Skoda UK will decide tonight whether to send Wilks there.

[Madeira]

It has been a great rally for Skoda, showing his power over their contenders....specially the engine built by Oreca. I´m wrong?

[Sergio-Rallymax]

He will start in Rallye Canarias

Do you know of some pilot more that it is going to go to the rallye?

[noel157]

I wonder if Proton can bring their schedule forward, assuming there are no clashes with APC?

[noel157]

Sergio, am I correct in thinking that Meeke, Hanninen, Wilks, and Kopecky have never competed in the old Rally el Corte Ingles?

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Not noel, these four drivers have never competed in the Rally Islas Canarias (former the Corte Inglés).
Of the drivers whot competed the MonteCarlo the only one that has come here has been Gardemeister, does more than ten years with a Lancia Delta.

[noel157]

Thanks Sergio, I thought so and many thanks for all the other information.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Nasser Al-Attiyah will take part also. He confirmed it in the summary of Eurosport.

[106 sport]

He will start in Rallye Canarias

Good news, I am from Gran Canaria :) I have seen Mikkelsen sometimes in a few rallys of the World Rally Championship and he has impressed me.

[106 sport]

Nasser Al-Attiyah will take part also. He confirmed it in the summary of Eurosport.

Otra alegria mas para el rally Sergio. (Another happiness else for the rally Sergio). :D

[RS]

Skoda are going to Canarias!

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Here I believe that it puts Juho Hanninen in the web that the Skoda are not going to come. Am I wrong?

"IRC-sarjan seuraava kilpailu ajetaan huhti-toukokuun vaihteessa Kanarian saarilla, mutta Skoda-talli jättänee kyseisen rallin väliin.Suomalaiskaksikko nähdään varmuudella seuraavan kerran tositoimissa kesäkuun 4.-6. päivä ajettavassa Sardinian rallissa."

[Mirek]

From Škoda press release of today:


With regard to the altered programme of the IRC championship, we now have to immediately start preparations for the next race, which will be in the Canary Islands at the end of April.

Complete text: http://www.skoda-auto.cz/COM/about/info/news/motorsport/News/Pages/2010_14_RallyArgentina2010.aspx

[RS]

Here I believe that it puts Juho Hanninen in the web that the Skoda are not going to come. Am I wrong?

"IRC-sarjan seuraava kilpailu ajetaan huhti-toukokuun vaihteessa Kanarian saarilla, mutta Skoda-talli jättänee kyseisen rallin väliin.Suomalaiskaksikko nähdään varmuudella seuraavan kerran tositoimissa kesäkuun 4.-6. päivä ajettavassa Sardinian rallissa."

Odd, maybe Skoda will take Vouilloz instead, although I find it hard to believe they wouldn't give Juho a chance on tarmac.

[PLuto]

Skoda wasnt planning go to Canarias (same as Meeke), but it looks they have changed their plans.

[Mirek]

Marc Van Dalen Confirmed start of Kris Meeke in Peugeot UK report: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22GAuO2uLtc

[Sergio-Rallymax]

It would be very strange that was not coming the team Skoda, bearing in mind that one of the most important importers of the Group VAG is Canary.
Franz Wittmann?

[Mirek]

Sorry, but Canarias make some 0,005% of VAG sales all over the world. It's only marginal market ;)

[Sergio-Rallymax]

]Sorry, but Canarias make some 0,005% of VAG sales all over the world. It's only marginal market ;)

I have said importer, not that it is bandaged in Canaries.
Domingo Alonso is the Canary company that it distributes VAG (apart from in Canaries) to Ceuta, Melilla, Cape Verde, Venezuela, Cuba and Colombia.

[Mirek]

aha, ok, thanks.

[Luis Pacheco]

Sergio-RallyMax can you tell me if the super special stage at the kart circuit still exist like in the 90´s?

[106 sport]

It would be very strange that was not coming the team Skoda, bearing in mind that one of the most important importers of the Group VAG is Canary.
Franz Wittmann?


+1, what about Franz Wittmann´s participation?, he is so spectacular... ;)

[106 sport]

Entries roll in for Canarias

http://rallye-info.com/images/photos/general/2008Asturias/740/Sola1.jpgFrom Ron Salter [ 22/03/2010 ].
Click to read all other http://irc.rallye-info.com/images/flags/makes/0.gif IRC News (http://irc.rallye-info.com/news.asp?sid=11).

Despite it's late addition to the 2010 IRC calendar, the Rally Islas Canarias looks set to boast a good entry after Eurosport Events arranged for the team's cars and equipment to be shipped straight from Argentina to the Spanish-owned Islands. Kronos Racing have confirmed that reigning IRC Champion Kris Meeke will participate, as will the works Skoda drivers Jan Kopecky and Juho Hanninen.
Nasser Al-Attiyah will also make the trip with his RGRS Fabia and it is though that Andreas Mikkelsen will begin his IRC programme early, probably using the M-Sport Fiesta that Villagra brought home 5th in Argentina last weekend. Skoda UK have yet to confirm their plans, but it seems more likely than not that they will send Guy Wilks to the first pure asphalt event of the 2010 season.

Rally Islas Canarias takes place from 29th April-1st May.
http://irc.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=11&stid=8529#readOn

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Sergio-RallyMax can you tell me if the super special stage at the kart circuit still exist like in the 90´s?

The circuit exists, but from 2003 it is not in use (by chance, it was the year in which Miguel Campos visited and win the Rally).
It is a shame that is not in use this year, since it would be relatively easy to broadcast it for Eurosport.

[Luis Pacheco]

In the 90´s i remember to see images from El Corte Ingles rallye and was funny the special stage in the kart circuit with the big jump at the finnish line.

The Azorean air line now has a flight to Gran Canaria through Madeira but is to expensive to go. ;)

[Sergio-Rallymax]

In the 90´s i remember to see images from El Corte Ingles rallye and was funny the special stage in the kart circuit with the big jump at the finnish line.

The Azorean air line now has a flight to Gran Canaria through Madeira but is to expensive to go. ;)

From Madeira with Binter-Sata it was going out for about 200 €.
If for some chance one you were coming and needing something, it warns that it would help you in everything possible.

As for it of the kart circuit, for youtube there are several clips on this special one. I itself did a video of the polish driver Holowczyc and he goes out in the karting often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVU8J8LPyIU

[Luis Pacheco]

The biggest jump at the kart circuit that i remember was from Kurt Gottlicher on the white and red "Excalibur" Escort RS Cosworthin 94 or 95. I have many VHS tapes with some Corte Ingles rallyes of the past. And I remember well Maria Ponce and his Celica "7 Up". ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

From Madeira with Binter-Sata it was going out for about 200 €.


But for me I have to pay twice this price. Maybe a next time.

[VFTS]

Good news, I am from Gran Canaria :) I have seen Mikkelsen sometimes in a few rallys of the World Rally Championship and he has impressed me.


Sorry, but he will not start after all.

The team has chosen Azorene instead.

[Luis Pacheco]

The team has chosen Azorene instead.

Nice. :D

[RS]

Still not heard anything about Wilks... and what about Magalahes? I would have thought Bruno could perform quite well on Canarias.

[Mirek]

Magalhaes should be there.

[alleskids]

Mikkelsen will do the Azoren-Madeira combination instead of Gran Canarias?

[106 sport]

Sorry, but he will not start after all.

The team has chosen Azorene instead.

Are you sure? If it is true, is sad... :( I think that he could get a podium.

[noel157]

Still not heard anything about Wilks... and what about Magalahes? I would have thought Bruno could perform quite well on Canarias.

Thought Skoda UK confirmed it, no?

[RS]

Thought Skoda UK confirmed it, no?

When did you hear that?

Their press release states the "next round is Canarias" but doesn't say whether they are going there.

I've dropped the Skoda UK press lady a line and hope to hear back today.

It would seem to make sense though; this plan of 2 rounds in South America then stopping at an Atlantic island on the way back seems to have worked quite well to keep costs down.

[RICARDO75]

Peugeot Portugal confirmed Bruno Magalhães in Rally Islas Canarias

[RS]

Peugeot Portugal confirmed Bruno Magalhães in Rally Islas Canarias

:up: Maybe a chance for a podium there?

[Luis Pacheco]

I don´t think so...

[Madeira]

:up: Maybe a chance for a podium there?
No way. To get a podium will be necessary defeat the Canarian drivers and the best Spanish drivers. For a podium only Madeira and maybe Azores!!

[106 sport]

what about Franz Wittmann´s participation?, he is so spectacular... ;)

:s mokin:

[RS]

No way. To get a podium will be necessary defeat the Canarian drivers and the best Spanish drivers. For a podium only Madeira and maybe Azores!!

Who are we expecting to be there then? (talking of Canrian and Spanish drivers)

[Madeira]

Who are we expecting to be there then? (talking of Canrian and Spanish drivers)
I don't know but I guess Rally Islas Canarias will be part of Spanish Championship, so drivers like Ojeda, Fuster, Vallejo, Vinyes and others will be there... ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

How many WRC cars we should see running for the canary championship?

[RS]

I don't know but I guess Rally Islas Canarias will be part of Spanish Championship, so drivers like Ojeda, Fuster, Vallejo, Vinyes and others will be there... ;)

But how many of those in S2000s?

[RICARDO75]

Sergio Vallejo - FORD FIESTA S2000
Alberto Hévia - SKODA FABIA S2000
Jonathan Pérez - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Álvaro Muñiz - FORD FIESTA S2000
David Pérez - PEUGEOT 207 S2000

[sal]

How many WRC cars we should see running for the canary championship?

This year there appears to be maybe one Focus WRC and a Porsche 911 GT3 going by the first round of the championship.

Maybe Luis Monzon will renew his partnership with Peugeot as a one off?

[Eyvind]

Sergio Vallejo - FORD FIESTA S2000
Alberto Hévia - SKODA FABIA S2000
Jonathan Pérez - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Álvaro Muñiz - FORD FIESTA S2000
David Pérez - PEUGEOT 207 S2000

There is no official confirmation about Hevia and J Perez.
David Perez confirmed he will not participate in Canarias.

[RICARDO75]

Gracias Eyvind.
I do not know who is going to the Canaries, I just wrote who has S2000 cars in Spain through the entry list from the Rally Villa Joyosa.

[Sergio-Rallymax]

With the confirmation of which the Rias Baixas will resign the spanish championship of rallyes, David Perez will have to re-form his calendar. Hevia had money for 9 rallys only, now with the resignation of the Rias probably encourage to come.
As for Monzon, if it takes part it will take part with a S2000.
Vinyes and Antxustegi will run with Swift S1600.
Fran Cima will inform with an EVO X N +.
Fuster with a Porsche GT3.
Ojeda with the Subaru N +.

[106 sport]

Interest grows in Rally Islas Canarias

Rally Islas Canarias, which was recently confirmed as a new addition to the Intercontinental Rally Challenge calendar, is set to attract a strong entry when it runs for a 34th time from 29 April-1 May.



In addition to a host of local drivers and those who will travel from the Spanish mainland, Peugeot UK has confirmed it will send a 207 Super 2000 for its defending IRC champions Kris Meeke and Paul Nagle (pictured), while Irishmen Daniel Barry and Martin Brady are planning to take part in the same Mitsubishi Lancer they used on Rallye Automobile Monte-Carlo in January.

Skoda Motorsport has also confirmed that it will contest the fourth round of the IRC series with regular pilots Jan Kopecky and Juho Hanninen, who heads the IRC drivers’ table by five points. They will drive a brace of Fabia Super 2000s.

Kopecky said: “I prefer to drive on asphalt so I am looking forward to doing this rally. I think it can be very good for me.”

Thierry Neuville announced yesterday that he will begin his six-event IRC programme on Rally Islas Canarias at the wheel of a Kronos Racing-run Peugeot 207, backed by the Belgium and Luxembourg Peugeot importers.

Several IRC 2WD Cup crews have also expressed an interest in competing on the famous asphalt rally, which is based on the island of Gran Canaria.


Who could be they???

[RS]

Wilks confirmed for Canarias!

So now we have confirmed:

Meeke (207)
Kopecky (Fabia)
Hanninen (Fabia)
Wilks (Fabia)
Magalhaes (207)
Al-Attiyah (Fabia)
Neuville (207)

[Luis Pacheco]

You can add Sergio Vallejo.

[106 sport]

Wilks confirmed for Canarias!

So now we have confirmed:

Meeke (207)
Kopecky (Fabia)
Hanninen (Fabia)
Wilks (Fabia)
Magalhaes (207)
Al-Attiyah (Fabia)
Neuville (207)


it seem that Daniel Oliveira is confirmed too :)

And I wonder again...What happens with Franz Wittmann???

[PLuto]

And I wonder again...What happens with Franz Wittmann???

I think he will start ;)

[106 sport]

I think he will start ;)


I hope it. :rolleyes:

[VFTS]

You can add Sergio Vallejo.


Vallejo will probably drive in the spanish championship-rally. And in the championship the S2000-cars can reduce their weight with 50kg.
Some spanish forumers can maybe confirm?

[Mirek]

I don't think so. I think that M-Sport has an interest in his start in IRC classification. Last year it was same with Hevia in Asturias, he also drove FIA spec. car.

[eloyf1]

Exact. Álvaro Muñiz should also enter the rally, as he is part of Nupel Team.

[VFTS]

]I don't think so. I think that M-Sport has an interest in his start in IRC classification. Last year it was same with Hevia in Asturias, he also drove FIA spec. car.

Yes, maybe. But i think its strange if he do so. Then he will miss important points.
I know that Moya(his teamboss in Nupel) and M-Sport Wilson are good friends.


Last year Hevia didnt compete in the spanish championship before in the end of the season. He had no points to fight for. Thats why he did drive in the FIA-class.
Also Fuster did drive last year, he drove the second factory Abarth, but went off on ss2 if I remember correctly.


Vallejo, Pons, Ojeda all drove in the spanish championship in Asturias last year.


We must wait and see.

[eloyf1]

Ojeda and Hevia will not go to Asturias, and I think that it is impossible to fight anyway against Fuster's Porsche in Canarian roads, so it wouldn't be bizarre if they enter the rally with FIA specs.

[106 sport]

Al-Attiyah vows to start Rally Islas Canarias

Nasser Al-Attiyah says he will do all he can to be on the starting ramp for Rally Islas Canarias later this month.



The Qatari driver, who made his Intercontinental Rally Challenge debut in Argentina in March, is due to contest the world championship-counting Rally New Zealand one week after the Gran Caria-based event.

Reconnaissance for the rally in New Zeland starts two days after the IRC event finishes, meaning Al-Attiyah will face a race against time to complete the journey.

In a further complication, Al-Attiyah will also needs to secure a replacement car because the Skoda Fabia Super 2000 he used in Argentina is being transported to New Zealand.

He said: “I really want to do the rally in Canarias because I want to do more IRC events and got more experience of driving on Tarmac. I will do everything I can, including getting another car, to be there. I think it can be possible but it won’t be easy.”

[Barreis]

Will Hevia cry again? If he'll I won't follow..

[eloyf1]

Will Hevia cry again? If he'll I won't follow..
He may not enter this round, he doesn't like it very much, his budget is limited, victory isn't possible against Fuster's GT, etc...

Anyway, you must understand what meant that puncture for him, in his homeland...

[Barreis]

I understand.. :)

[106 sport]

There is a rumour in a canary forum about a possible Freddy Loix´s participation with a 207 S2000 rented.

Someone knows something else?

[106 sport]

Wilks impresses Wittmann from afar

Franz Wittmann has revealed how he relied on the official Intercontinental Rally Challenge website to keep up to date with the series during the recent South America double-header.



Wittmann is contesting several IRC events this season in an Interwetten Racing-run Peugeot 207 Super 2000. However, the Austrian driver did not enter either rally in Brazil or Argentina in order to concentrate on the European rounds.

He said: “I followed every stage and every split [time] and it’s ballistic how good the competition is getting in the IRC with so many good drivers taking part.

“There were no big surprises for me in Brazil or Argentina because I expected Kris Meeke and Juho Hänninen to do very well. But Guy Wilks [pictured] really did a tremendous job in his Škoda and I really think he can be a main contender for the title.”

Wittmann added: “It was really hard having to stay home when my colleagues were doing those rallies so I’m looking forward more than ever to come back.”



After reading the last phrase, I think he will be in Rally Islas Canarias.

[wwbroe]

There is a rumour in a canary forum about a possible Freddy Loix´s participation with a 207 S2000 rented.

Someone knows something else?

Everything is possible ofcourse, but that would be a huge surprise to me. He has contract with Skoda Belgium, so i don't see him driving a Peugeot in Islas Canarias. :D

[bluuford]

Wilks impresses Wittmann from afar

Franz Wittmann has revealed how he relied on the official Intercontinental Rally Challenge website to keep up to date with the series during the recent South America double-header.



Wittmann is contesting several IRC events this season in an Interwetten Racing-run Peugeot 207 Super 2000. However, the Austrian driver did not enter either rally in Brazil or Argentina in order to concentrate on the European rounds.

He said: “I followed every stage and every split [time] and it’s ballistic how good the competition is getting in the IRC with so many good drivers taking part.

“There were no big surprises for me in Brazil or Argentina because I expected Kris Meeke and Juho Hänninen to do very well. But Guy Wilks [pictured] really did a tremendous job in his Škoda and I really think he can be a main contender for the title.”

Wittmann added: “It was really hard having to stay home when my colleagues were doing those rallies so I’m looking forward more than ever to come back.”



After reading the last phrase, I think he will be in Rally Islas Canarias.


It does not look very promising He takes part in Vogelsberg rally in Germany in 16-17 April and it looks like it is going to get too tight with the time. He cannot transport his car with reasonable costs with such a short time I think.

[pucky54]

They got two cars at ROMO, but I dont think that they will go to Canarias

[RS]

Oliveira is going to Canarias.

[eloyf1]

Skoda España will be there:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3775129&l=2eaf838ef8&id=130080493617

I hope they've found the sponsor they needed

[RS]

Skoda España will be there:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3775129&l=2eaf838ef8&id=130080493617

I hope they've found the sponsor they needed

Great news! Hevia is really fast, but I doubt he can be as fast as he was on his "home" rally in Asturias?

[eloyf1]

No, he won't. His fight is against Vallejo, not even against Fuster...

[Sergio-Rallymax]

Hevia while it has not had problems (crashes) in Canaries he has gone very very fastly.
I trust that could be at the level of the IRC's top.

[RS]

Will Hevia run the IRC weight limit or Spanish rules? Why do you lot have to be different :p

[PLuto]

Thats why I dont like so much spanish rallysport - allmost all class has specific national rules which arent possible to use abroad...

[RS]

Wittmann confirmed Canarias!

[teufel]

Great news! :up:

[106 sport]

Wittmann confirmed Canarias!

Source?

This is Unbelievable news for the rally. :eek:

He is so spectacular... :D

[hari]

Source?

http://www.franz-wittmann.com/jun/

[106 sport]

http://www.franz-wittmann.com/jun/


Thanks, I found it at http://www.rally-info.com;)

[106 sport]

There is a rumour in Gran Canaria about a possible Victor Sa´s participation with one of his 207 S2000...

[PLuto]

It is possible.

[eloyf1]

Despite ircseries.com PR stuff, Jónathan Pérez is likely to enter with an Evo X, and David Pérez probably won't enter Islas Canarias, furthermore when he had a hard crash this weekend...

[gravelman]

Will Hevia run the IRC weight limit or Spanish rules? Why do you lot have to be different :p


what limits do they run in spain?

[eloyf1]

what limits do they run in spain?
50 kg less for S2000 and S1600, our Gr.N have 36mm restrictor, our GT are GT3 circuit cars... Quite spectacular, but totally insane, as our drivers can only compete in the National Championship.

[Mirek]

...and David Pérez probably won't enter Islas Canarias, furthermore when he had a hard crash this weekend...

Any more info, Eloy?

[eloyf1]

Two photos from Andalucía Motor forums...
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/2802/crashy.jpg
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3771/cras2.jpg
It seems that something broke on the car before the crash. Probably, they will buy a new bodywork.

[RS]

50 kg less for S2000 and S1600, our Gr.N have 36mm restrictor, our GT are GT3 circuit cars... Quite spectacular, but totally insane, as our drivers can only compete in the National Championship.

So do we have any confirmation of what weight limits the Spanish S2000s will run on Canarias?

If they run the Spanish limits then I suppose they will not be eligible for IRC points.

What happened on Asturias last year, were these weight limits the same then?

[eloyf1]

Last year there were those limits, and they ran with FIA specs.

I suppose that, as Fuster will fly anyway, and Ojeda said he wouldn't go to Canarias with his Gr.N+ (Despite organisators insist in the fact he will be there...), they will go ahead with FIA specs.

With or without, they will fight for second position (well, if there are no neutralisations...), so it would be stupid not to put the 50 kilos and lose the only chance of the year to be shown on TV...

[Mirek]

Thanks Eloy, is crew ok?

[eloyf1]

]Thanks Eloy, is crew ok?
Yes, just car damage ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Anyway entrylist on 21st april we have not too long to wait now ;)

[Madeira]

It is confirmed. Vitor Sá will be there!!

[Boris Ivanov]

Great news! I want to see, what can he do.

[Madeira]

Great news! I want to see, what can he do.
well, my bet is that he will be outside of Top 10 or more... :)

[eloyf1]

well, my bet is that he will be outside of Top 10 or more... :)
There isn't enough level for that :p

[Madeira]

Vitor has lack of international experience and he is not already a young driver able to take too much risks like the professionals that he will find there...

[eloyf1]

Pff... With two or three retirements, he should be on the Top Ten, there are only the 10-11 S2000 and a couple of big Gr.N (Pérez, Suárez, Armide Martín maybe), but I don't see those ones showing great pace. ;)

[wwbroe]

Organisation doesn't expect problems with drivers not able to reach Canary Islands in time with the airplaneproblems. I guess most of them are supposed to arrive today or tomorrow?

[Wittmanello]

why should they be arriving today or tomorow - recce starts on Tuesday next week :)

[PLuto]

Wwbroe forget, that drivers will go there to race, not vacation like him ;)

[Wittmanello]

will you be there Petr?

[PLuto]

No, I wont be there :( Change of the date arrived too late, I have another races in this date :(

[wwbroe]

why should they be arriving today or tomorow - recce starts on Tuesday next week :)

Oeps, i was mistaken by one week, my fault Frans. :)

[eloyf1]

Entry list without seeded order:
http://www.motorcanario.com/docu/inscritosislascanarias10.pdf

No surprises

[RS]

Entry list without seeded order:
http://www.motorcanario.com/docu/inscritosislascanarias10.pdf

No surprises

Not bad for a late addition, looking forward to it.

[Wim_Impreza]

There are only 27 entries for the IRC rally?

[RICARDO75]

I was hoping that Alvaro Muñiz (FORD) and Nasser Al Attiyah (SKODA) could be there.

Jonathan Perez with Lancer evo 10

[Mirek]

There are only 27 entries for the IRC rally?

All 59 are doing same rally. Only non-FIA cars must be separated by some time gap.

[Wim_Impreza]

]All 59 are doing same rally. Only non-FIA cars must be separated by some time gap.

I know, but are they going classified in the final standings of the IRC rally? Last year in Asturias, there was an apart classification for non-FIA cars.

[eloyf1]

I know, but are they going classified in the final standings of the IRC rally? Last year in Asturias, there was an apart classification for non-FIA cars.
22 IRC, 27 FIA (IRC + 2 Swift S1600, 2 Citroën, a Twingo R2), 59 in total (IRC, FIA, RFEDA, Canarian Regional Championship)

Quite difficult, yeah :D

[Wim_Impreza]

Thank you. :)

[Wim_Impreza]

There are still no pickems for this rally.

[sal]

Looks like non Spanish will be able to fly direct to the event now though!

[RICARDO75]

Seeded entry list:
FIA - http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=121
Regional - http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=122

[Mirek]

It's seeded wrong - Juho doesn't have FIA priority but Kris has. In the list it's contrariwise.

[RICARDO75]

Juho Hänninen also his a FIA B priority Driver
http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/CCA6426B3167D9DEC12576A8003CDE7D/$FILE/Priorit%C3%A9s%20A+B%202010_v2.pdf

[Mirek]

Aha, sorry ;)

But still Kris Meeke is wrong there...

[RICARDO75]

You'r right. But I wonder what could be that yellow mark on his name? Maybe because he his new on the list?

[Mirek]

Yes, yellow ones were given FIA priority later, in early March I think.

[bluuford]

]Aha, sorry ;)

But still Kris Meeke is wrong there...

No, it is correct. It is according to the championship classification, like it was in Argentina and Brazil. Meeke is fourth and seeded fourth.

[Mirek]

If You have a look again in the list You can see that there is no FIA priority for Kris Meeke although he has it. That's why I think that organizers hasn't notice he was given it later. I know it's not mandatory to seed FIA priority drivers on top but it's recommended and widely used.

Anyway it's not really important :)

[RICARDO75]

7.2.5 The stewards may reposition an A or B priority driver when he has entered in a car which, in
the opinion of the stewards, does not justify him benefiting from his priority in the initial starting order.

41.1 START ORDER
The starting order of Day 1 is as follows:
- FIA Priority Drivers - Priority A
- FIA Priority Drivers - Priority B
- Series 3: Registered Drivers

[bluuford]

]If You have a look again in the list You can see that there is no FIA priority for Kris Meeke although he has it. That's why I think that organizers hasn't notice he was given it later. I know it's not mandatory to seed FIA priority drivers on top but it's recommended and widely used.

Anyway it's not really important :)

Ahh.. Sry I didn't noticed the right row. I just zoomed the PDF to read it more comfortably and didn't noticed those rows :-)

[Luis Pacheco]

Vitor Sa will not be there.

[Luis Pacheco]

Our canarian friends knows if TV Canaria will broadcast stages?

[RICARDO75]

Peugeot in Canaries. Photos from Diego Menichetti
http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201004/28876-meeke.jpg
http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201004/28877-magalhaes.jpg
http://www.autoklub.pl/media/201004/28878-neuville2.jpg

[eloyf1]

Our canarian friends knows if TV Canaria will broadcast stages?
I don't think so, I read somewhere they're on strike...

[RICARDO75]

Peugeot tests
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRc2zxHTiro&feature=player_embedded

[noel157]

Peugeot testing today with Meeke, Neuville and Magalhaes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHxdjgg9G64

Neuville spinning, very lucky not to damage the car:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHxdjgg9G64

Pictures: http://www.rallyaccion.com/?page_id=453

[noel157]

More video from yesterday's test with Peugeot, Skoda ( Jan trying a bit too hard on one exit), Barry Mitsu Evo etc and the beautiful sound of the Porsche GT3s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC12PvpfyDM

[jbmarcus21]

Islas Canarias Rally - Google Earth Map : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/googleearthmap.htm

[Luis Pacheco]

I don't think so, I read somewhere they're on strike...

And what about the radio, they are on strike to?

[eloyf1]

And what about the radio, they are on strike to?
Here you have:
http://www.motordirecto.es/web/noticias-racing/4224-el-equipo-de-motor-directo-y-su-programacion-especial-para-el-rally-islas-canarias-trofeo-el-corte-ingles-irc.html

[Luis Pacheco]

Here you have:
http://www.motordirecto.es/web/noticias-racing/4224-el-equipo-de-motor-directo-y-su-programacion-especial-para-el-rally-islas-canarias-trofeo-el-corte-ingles-irc.html

Gracias

[Mirek]

Photos from service and Skoda press conference: http://pepafotorally.rajce.idnes.cz/100428_Rally_Islas_Canarias_I./#album

[Boris Ivanov]

Nice photos!

GO WITTMANN!

[Mirek]

Shakedown is probably over now...

1. Meeke (207 S2000) 1:27,7
2. Viera (Focus WRC) +0,9
3. Kopecký (Fabia S2000) +1,0
4. Hänninen (Fabia S2000) +1,1
5. Magalhaes (207 S2000) +1,1
6. Fuster (Porsche 911) +1,5
7. Vallejo (Fiesta S2000) +2,2
8. Wilks (Fabia S2000) +2,3
9. Neuville (207 S2000) +2,3
10. Hevia (Fabia S2000) +3,2
11. Wittmann (207 S2000) +3,6
12. Oliveira (207 S2000) +5,8
13. Suarez (Evo X N4) +6,0
14. Cima (Evo X N4+) +6,4
15. Vinyes (Fiesta R2) +7,4

[RS]

Impressive performance by Meeke. I have a feeling that the Peugeot may have an edge here.

Shame Abarth are not here too, I think this event could have suited them.

[Raini]

This Porsche is RWD?

[Mirek]

Yes, it's circuit Porsche SuperCup car.

[Wittmanello]

shakedown was very interesting but not too similar to the stages...
Is it true that the Kopecky and Häninnen could only recce some stages twice?
The time schedule of the first day was really hard...

[eloyf1]

]Shakedown is probably over now...

15. Vinyes (Fiesta R2) +7,4
Swift S1600 ;)

[Mirek]

Don't think so ;)

http://www.automovilismolapalma.com/ficheros/Jueves%20RALLY%20PC%20CH%2027.jpg

[Raini]

]Yes, it's circuit Porsche SuperCup car.

For RWD quite impressive time...

[Mirek]

Frankly I expected him faster. Roads on Canarias are mostly perfect flat, wide and clean with perfect grip and his car is pure circuit special with almost same weight as S2000 cars, some 470 Hp, ceramic brakes, traction control etc. Moreover complete shakedown was uphill I think ;)

[sal]

http://www.atodomotor.com/galeria/galeria.php?G=2010/rcanarias3/

Shakedown images here!

[eloyf1]

]Don't think so ;)

http://www.automovilismolapalma.com/ficheros/Jueves%20RALLY%20PC%20CH%2027.jpg

¡That's Yeray Lemes, not Joan Vinyes (Andorran)! :D
http://www.auto-sprint.com/wp-content/gallery/nacional-2010/alicante/rallye-villajoyosa-vinyes.jpg

[Mirek]

lol, how could I mess them? Sorry :D :D :D

[eloyf1]

]Frankly I expected him faster. Roads on Canarias are mostly perfect flat, wide and clean with perfect grip and his car is pure circuit special with almost same weight as S2000 cars, some 470 Hp, ceramic brakes, traction control etc. Moreover complete shakedown was uphill I think ;)
Fuster doesn't like his 911 GT3, he only bought it because he thought GT cars were much faster than S2000 (typical Spanish whiner), but for example, last year both Vallejo and Canarian Santi Concepción beat him in this rally...

The 911 doesn't fit him as good as for Vallejo, but with good-grip Canarian roads, he will win among Spanish drivers anyway.

[eloyf1]

]lol, how could I mess them? Sorry :D :D :D

Doesn't matter, I think you know better the Entry List than lots of spectators... :p ;)

[modri dirkac]

http://www.atodomotor.com/galeria/galeria.php?G=2010/rcanarias3/

Shakedown images here!

Hey, a lot of sideways driving. I like that. :D

[Mirek]

By the way why Concepción isn't on start?

[eloyf1]

]By the way why Concepción isn't on start?
He sold his 911 GT3, so I think he doesn't has any car... There are lots of machinery in Canary (Vallejo's old 911 GT3 is there as well), but I imagine shipping costs, added to two-days rally cost, is too difficult to afford for Canarian drivers.

Moreover, nearly each island hast its own championship, then people isn't used to race in other islands.

[Raini]

]Frankly I expected him faster. Roads on Canarias are mostly perfect flat, wide and clean with perfect grip and his car is pure circuit special with almost same weight as S2000 cars, some 470 Hp, ceramic brakes, traction control etc. Moreover complete shakedown was uphill I think ;)

We will see by the end of the rally, how fast he is actually.

[PLuto]

As usual, link to results from Rally Islas Canarias (http://www.irc-results.com/2010/irc/spain)

[Sergio-Rallymax]

More photos in my web, http://www.RallyAccion.com

[muscrae]

Itinerary of the rally? There is a problem in the event's website...

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/696/696_hevia__iglesias_%28Skoda_fabia_s2000%29_0cc722 0f8c.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/696/696_cruz__garcia_%28ford_fiesta_r2%29_efde88fe58.j pg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/696/696_fuster__avino_%28porsche_911_gt3%29_b7ae569e00 .jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/696/696_wilks__pugh_%28Skoda_fabia_s2000%29_9d223106c5 .jpg

Photos from shakedown HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=696&fseason=2010)

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr0yQCKC32c

Nice show from Wittmann!

[Madeira]

Nice video Thanks!!
Who is the BMW's guy??

[Wim_Impreza]

Itinerary of the rally? There is a problem in the event's website...

http://www.rallyislascanarias.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=95

[AndyRAC]

Ah, a Porsche, a 'proper' car!! Seriously, the FiA should allow a GT3 class for Rallying - RWD, noise....!!!

[N.O.T]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wr0yQCKC32c

Nice show from Wittmann!

nice show in general froma lot of drivers... :D

[Raini]

Ah, a Porsche, a 'proper' car!! Seriously, the FiA should allow a GT3 class for Rallying - RWD, noise....!!!

If this Porsche drives a little bit straighter and little better lines, it will be a big pain in the ass of the S2000-s. The Acceleration of the Porsche seems to be a way much better than S2000s as well.

I do not know, how about IRC, but it's a pity, that in WRC rallys they do not show non-FIA priority drivers time's amongs others. Some of the times are very competitive. If I remember correctly, Gardemeister showd very good time with BMW M3 in NORF.

[HaCo]

Nice link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=684
for local time and weather!
1Hr20' to go!

[Mirek]

Raini: If the national field is doing same route, we show their times also (after clicking on "all"). In Canarias they will be shown in http://irc-results.com/2010/irc/spain/1irc.php

Btw. some shakedown photos by Josef Petrů: http://pepafotorally.rajce.idnes.cz/100429_Rally_Islas_Canarias_Shakedown/#album

[wwbroe]

Some nice photo's Mirek, thanks for the link. :)

[Sulland]

Found another result page. Not sure if it has been posted before:
http://www.masrallye.com/canarias/10/onlineind.html

[noel157]

Is RR working ok? Mine is on and off.

[Mirek]

Yes, it stopped working 5 minutes a go :(

[noel157]

Thanks Mirek.

Echo, echo, echo. Gives you a headache.

Edit no echo, had two RR links open, doh! All working ok now.

[Sulland]

Radio working fine now !

Kopecky leading so far

[Madeira]

SS1-Kris fastest!!

[noel157]

1.4 up over Jan over 8.5km, great start.

[Madeira]

only the openning stage but nice to see Bruno doing better than Spanish drivers like Hevia and Vallejo!

[Mirek]

I only notice once more... To see all drivers click on "all" otherwise You see only IRC brands ;)

[RS]

I think this is going to be a very close and exciting rally!

I hope Magalhaes can join the fight of the 'big 4'

[Sulland]

]I only notice once more... To see all drivers click on "all" otherwise You see only IRC brands ;)

Could not "all" be made default setting ?

Makes more sense !

Would also be nice to have the start time in CET on a line, either under or beside the km info for each SS.

[Mirek]

No, it's official IRC result system so IRC is default :)

[Sulland]

]No, it's official IRC result system so IRC is default :)

Ok, understand, but the startime for each SS could be possible ?

Also tyre brand would be nice to see on the result list, to see if any brabd works better on the day.

[Sulland]

And the Porsche is in the lead !

What a sould of that car !!!!!

[RS]

Fuster fastest in the Porsche on SS1 but only by 0.1s.

SS2 times should be coming through now.

[Mirek]

Juho fantastic on SS2!

[RS]

]Juho fantastic on SS2!

I'm very surprised he has made this much progress on tarmac. Now I'm more convinced he can take the title this year.

[Sulland]

Has he taken a Latvala and done some karting or racing to improve on Asphalt ?

[Mirek]

In fact he has done a lot of testing on asphalt in CZ but our asphalt is very different to Canarian.

[RS]

I think a year of driving in IRC and a lot of asphalt testing will be what has helped Juho. Kind of proves pWRC is not a balanced enough championship otherwise he would have been able to do it from the start.

But kudos to Juho, some Finns never quite get the hang of it.

[Sulland]

See on the BFG site that Hevia and Wittmann is not on BFG, do anyone know what tyre brabd they are using ?

[RS]

Pretty sure they are on BFG.

[Mirek]

On photos from press conference it looks like Hevia is on Pirellis.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

See on the BFG site that Hevia and Wittmann is not on BFG, do anyone know what tyre brabd they are using ?

I think they are both running with BFG...

both have BFG stickers on their cars...

[Mirek]

Hevia also. They add BFG stickers after press conference :)

[Raini]

I'm happy with Porsche's pace.

Sry, but I do not find a rally radio...help me please..
Good to see that Hänninen woke up already. Anyway, smart driver.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

only the openning stage but nice to see Bruno doing better than Spanish drivers like Hevia and Vallejo!

Yes.. for the first time in a rally outside Portugal, Bruno is having a really decent pace!

Congratulations to him!

Maybe Canarian roads have a similar grip to Madeiran roads... and he is very used to this conditions. anyway, very good pace.

[Luis Pacheco]

Last days I listen Radio Las Palmas but today I´m having problems to listen. :(

[Luis Pacheco]

]Yes.. for the first time in a rally outside Portugal, Bruno is having a really decent pace!

Congratulations to him!

Maybe Canarian roads have a similar grip to Madeiran roads... and he is very used to this conditions. anyway, very good pace.

I read some where that Magalhães was the only one to run three times on the recce.

[Mirek]

Radio: http://tbcpods.radica.com/IRC_Radio/Rally_Radio_Player_page2.htm

[noel157]

I'm happy with Porsche's pace.

Sry, but I do not find a rally radio...help me please..
Good to see that Hänninen woke up already. Anyway, smart driver.

Rally radio: http://tbcpods.radica.com/IRC_Radio/...ayer_page2.htm

or http://www.peugeot.co.uk/about-peuge...y/rally-radio/

[FAlonso]

Amazing...IRC bad luck strikes again for Bruno...S*it!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I read some where that Magalhães was the only one to run three times on the recce.

I dont' know about that..

But I know that Peugeot Portugal "never" respects recce rules :s mokin:

In Madeira, in the times of Lopes or Campos... they used to run more than 10 times some stages, I saw it with my own eyes :)

[Raini]

]Radio: http://tbcpods.radica.com/IRC_Radio/Rally_Radio_Player_page2.htm

Thank You all of You, I didn't have Flash Player installed, and I didn't see therefore link for Rally Radio on the official site.

[Luis Pacheco]

Amazing...IRC bad luck strikes again for Bruno...S*it!

Bad luck strikes again? What were the other ones?

[FAlonso]

Bad luck strikes again? What were the other ones?

Madeira 2007: Engine problems on SS2. Ran 2 or 3 stages on 3 cylinders

Sanremo 2007: Head-on colision with Brice Tirabassi's car with was standed across the road after an off

Portugal 2008: Went off slightly (his mistake) but lost 3+ minutes.

Madeira 2008: Puncture. Lost 3minutes. Was leading.

Asturias 2008: Blown engine on SS4.

Azores 2009: Transmission issues since ss2 or 3, can´t remember exactly. Was on 3 wheel drive for most of the first day.

Not a bad record.

[Luis Pacheco]

]I dont' know about that..

But I know that Peugeot Portugal "never" respects recce rules :s mokin:

:)

The time was not enought for all the driver to take three runs like this journalist from Madeira said.

http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/84390

[Luis Pacheco]

Madeira 2007: Engine problems on SS2. Ran 2 or 3 stages on 3 cylinders

Sanremo 2007: Head-on colision with Brice Tirabassi's car with was standed across the road after an off

Portugal 2008: Went off slightly (his mistake) but lost 3+ minutes.

Madeira 2008: Puncture. Lost 3minutes. Was leading.

Asturias 2008: Blown engine on SS4.

Azores 2009: Transmission issues since ss2 or 3, can´t remember exactly. Was on 3 wheel drive for most of the first day.

Not a bad record.

I was asking about this year. But is true when he push hard to stay in the front places the "bad luck" is always there, in Portugal 2008 and in Madeira of the same year, like you said.

[eloyf1]

]I dont' know about that..

But I know that Peugeot Portugal "never" respects recce rules :s mokin:

In Madeira, in the times of Lopes or Campos... they used to run more than 10 times some stages, I saw it with my own eyes :) Three weeks ago there were already some cars running through the stages... It's always the same story.

[noel157]

Daniel Barry / Martin Brady (Evo IX) pre rally video:

http://www.youtube.com/user/redmistproductions#p/u/0/oe2ASvdwf-U

SD incar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MM11KPGlOo

[Sulland]

Would also be nice to have the start time in CET on a line, either under or beside the km info for each SS.

Thanks, that was quickly responded ! :D

[Mirek]

Kris made a reasonable gap now.

[noel157]

Getting even more reasonable Mirek....14.4 over Jan. Wilks falling away. Not sure Hanninen will sustain his pace but doing well.

[Mirek]

Rain started on some places of SS6...

[Luis Pacheco]

The rallye is stoped.

[Mirek]

Any reason for that? I saw notional times for national field on SS4 but without some missing crew I wondered what's going on...

[N.O.T]

stopped because of the rain ?? or something happened ?

[Luis Pacheco]

In stage 5 a car catch on fire.

[Mirek]

Really stage 5? Times are still comming from this stage. There were notional times on SS4 for national competitors except few first ones (and no crew is missing there).

[Luis Pacheco]

Was the information that I heard on the canarian radio...

[Mirek]

So it's Jonathan Perez's car which is burning behind the finish of SS5 at it seems.

[Luis Pacheco]

No more information by the radio.The are playing "We are the world we are the children" :D

[RICARDO75]

He already crashed two times the Peugeot this year and now fire in the Mitsubishi...

[Luis Pacheco]

The rallye is running again.
first car on stage 6 started at 15:39

[Luis Pacheco]

Wilks fastest at the moment.

[polo10]

]I dont' know about that..

But I know that Peugeot Portugal "never" respects recce rules :s mokin:

In Madeira, in the times of Lopes or Campos... they used to run more than 10 times some stages, I saw it with my own eyes :)

In those times tere were no limit for recce, so no one was doing ilegal recce, last year was the first time that the recce in Madeira had a limit of 2 runs...why keep saying bad of portuguese???? only because Miguel done it once...
???????????

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Nice video Thanks!!
Who is the BMW's guy??

A local driver.... Ivan Armas... do you like it ? :s mokin:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

In those times tere were no limit for recce, so no one was doing ilegal recce, last year was the first time that the recce in Madeira had a limit of 2 runs...why keep saying bad of portuguese???? only because Miguel done it once...
???????????

Last year it wasn't the first year with restriction on recce...

And it's not because Campos did once... I have nothing against Campos or other any Portuguese driver... I only said the truth, nothing more... :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

As Madeira is European Championship Event it MUST have restriction on recce as it is part of championship regulations.

But don't worry, such violations happen everywhere...

[Madeira]

]Last year it wasn't the first year with restriction on recce...

And it's not because Campos did once... I have nothing against Campos or other any Portuguese driver... I only said the truth, nothing more... :rolleyes:
It´s a Paulo!! ;)

[Madeira]

]A local driver.... Ivan Armas... do you like it ? :s mokin:
Yeah, I know why you are asking me that... you also know my asnwer :)

[Madeira]

Pitty the transmission troubles that Bruno had....as I've said before interesting times for him until now and I expected more from Hevia and Vallejo!!!

[polo10]

]As Madeira is European Championship Event it MUST have restriction on recce as it is part of championship regulations.

But don't worry, such violations happen everywhere...

i can tell you that that last year was the first year that were people in the beggining of the stages controling and the first year that people have gps in the recce car...the years before you had two days of recce and you could do as many runs as you can...i give you a example, in chao da lagoa is a part that is only open sometimes and you have to recce in different hours anda every, i tell you everyone done much more runs than 2 and the organisers were there...last year was different , i know what i am saying...

[Mirek]

Don't get me wrong but if some rule is not controled, it doesn't automatically mean there is no such rule.

If there are no policemen on the roads with radar it also doesn't mean that allowed speed is unlimited although You can drive that way ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]Don't get me wrong but if some rule is not controled, it doesn't automatically mean there is no such rule.

If there are no policemen on the roads with radar it also doesn't mean that allowed speed is unlimited although You can drive that way ;)

Perfect answer!!! ;) :s mokin:

[Luis Pacheco]

Last year one month before the Azores Rallye some IRC drivers were in San Miguel Island and I don´t think they were on vacations. :D