Deutschland Rally WRC 2010

[jbmarcus21]

Program

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/deutschland10.htm

[rallye-vid]

Hi there,

i added the stages of rally deutschland 2010 to google earth.

some routes are not 100% correct yet but i will fix it some day and post then an update.

here the *.kmz file for google earth:

http://rapidshare.com/files/366227102/WRC_DE_2010_v1.zip

and here the stages as *.pdf (my google earth file is based on it):

http://rapidshare.com/files/365191094/rallye_deutschland-100318-0020.zip

cheers

[Mintexmemory]

Can any kind soul mark up the position of the Gina jump on the Panzerplatte stage? Thanks

[rallye-vid]

will update the google earth file tomorrow and mark it up for ya.

cheers

[rallye-vid]

Hi there,

i added the stages of rally deutschland 2010 to google earth.

some routes are not 100% correct yet but i will fix it some day and post then an update.

here the *.kmz file for google earth:

http://rapidshare.com/files/367154123/WRC_DE_2010_v2.zip

and here the stages as *.pdf (my google earth file is based on it):

http://rapidshare.com/files/365191094/rallye_deutschland-100318-0020.zip

cheers

updated a stage and marked up the "Gina" jump as requested.

http://rapidshare.com/files/367154123/WRC_DE_2010_v2.zip

[Mintexmemory]

Rallye-vid many thanks, owe you a beer for that. I can also see the Klusserath Campingplatz next to 'Moselwein' where I'm staying for the rally.

[Henrii6]

Hello,
This year I will for the first time visit a WRC event. I have no idea what I might expect and what would be the best way to see as much of the drivers as possible. Are there any tips or suggestion you could give to me?
Much appreciated.

[Langdale Forest]

48 kilometer Panzerpatte stage, should be epic. :devil:

[Henrii6]

Ye, I heard alot about that one..
Is that the one with the hinkelsteins or something?

[Langdale Forest]

It is the stage with the hinkestiens.

BTW, welcome to this forum!

[RicKT]

Rally-Vid -

Thank you for this, Great piece of work!

Rick

[RicKT]

Right....

Does anyone have the co-ordinates for the spectator viewing points (or best places to view) for all stages??

If so, please can you share and I will create a Point of Intrest file for my tom tom and I will upload the files to share.

It makes it some much easier to plan routes etc then.

Cheers

Rick

[Kikuchiyo]

Like Henrii6 above, Rallye Deutschland will be my first WRC event. I'm an American living in Germany about an hour south of Trier. Since this is likely to be the only WRC event I get to attend before I leave Europe, I'd like to do it right. Got a couple newbie questions, though:

Is it possible to get one day passes, instead of the full event pass on the ADAC site? How or where would I get one? I only have one (maybe two) days I can attend because of work.

Is there a Beginner's Guide to being a Rally Spectator somewhere that might answer the questions below (and more)?

I understand we have to stay in the approved areas for our and the drivers' safety, but how do we know where the approved spectator areas are?

How long do you typically remain at one stage before heading to another? Do you have to drive yourself to the next spectator area or are there buses?

Thanks for any and all help.

[Blitzerflitzer]

Is it possible to get one day passes

Is there a Beginner's Guide & how do we know where the approved spectator areas are?

How long do you typically remain at one stage before heading to another?



1) First time this year, they dont sell one day tickets. You have to buy a stage-ticket on the entrance of the Spectators-Point and you can watch the 2 times, they will pass the stage. 10 Euro per Stage/day, and Stage "Arena Panzerplatte" 15 Euro/day "Stage-Tickets" (http://www.adac-rallye-deutschland.de/news/index.php?SID&flash=&lg=d&st=70&showall=&allge=&id=1448)

2) Buy on the homepage your Rally-programme, all the infos about the stages and spectator-points are inside. “Rally-programme" (http://shop.rallye-deutschland.de/product_info.php?info=p58_Rally-programme.html)

3) See point 1, if you change the stage, you have to pay again for the new stage. So maybe just plan to change to another spec-point on your stage.

[RicKT]

I understand we have to stay in the approved areas for our and the drivers' safety, but how do we know where the approved spectator areas are?

How long do you typically remain at one stage before heading to another? Do you have to drive yourself to the next spectator area or are there buses?

Thanks for any and all help.

1 - There are areas where the marshalls would like you to stand...(which is great for familys and new comers, however feel free to go off walking into the woodland, just keep safe and dont stand in stupid places... ie.. outside of a bend!

I never stand in any of the marked pens, I always prefer to go for a walk and find a quit area on the stage..

But remember... KEEP SAFE

2 - I tend to do a stage, then off to another stage which we have planned to do,

Trying to get in 2 oer even 3 stages..

All this is done via us driving.

A lot of companies will do a tour but will tend to only do a stage a day, (if the cars run through it twice..)

Take a look at Rally Travel for ideas.

Rick

[kraut]

Right....

Does anyone have the co-ordinates for the spectator viewing points (or best places to view) for all stages??

If so, please can you share and I will create a Point of Intrest file for my tom tom and I will upload the files to share.

It makes it some much easier to plan routes etc then.

Cheers

Rick


Hello Rick,
as you can read from my nickname I'm from Germany and I know the stages of Rallye Deutschland quite well. So to fulfil your wish, here are my recommendations:

Friday: Panorama-road Piesport
49°53'21.36'' N
6°55'48.80'' E

Saturday: Panzerplatte
49°38'34.48'' N
7°19'20.50'' E

Sunday: Galeria Dhrontal
49°51'12.20 N
6°55'50.25 E

These are the most interesting spots for someone who has never visited Rallye Deutschland.

Greetings to Yorkshire!
(Memories are coming up from long times ago, when we were rallying through Langdale, Wykeham and Dalby Forest during the old Lombard RAC Rally.)

kind regards
Christoph

[RicKT]

Hello Rick,
as you can read from my nickname I'm from Germany and I know the stages of Rallye Deutschland quite well. So to fulfil your wish, here are my recommendations:

Friday: Panorama-road Piesport
49°53'21.36'' N
6°55'48.80'' E

Saturday: Panzerplatte
49°38'34.48'' N
7°19'20.50'' E

Sunday: Galeria Dhrontal
49°51'12.20 N
6°55'50.25 E

These are the most interesting spots for someone who has never visited Rallye Deutschland.

Greetings to Yorkshire!
(Memories are coming up from long times ago, when we were rallying through Langdale, Wykeham and Dalby Forest during the old Lombard RAC Rally.)

kind regards
Christoph

Christoph, Apologies for the delay in replying, I have been on holiday,

Thank you for the details above, I will get these plotted into the TOMTOM today..

In regards to the TICKETS, would you advise to buy in advance or buy when we get there ? (would be looking at getting the silver passess.)

Thanks

Rick

[jbmarcus21]

Sunday: Galeria Dhrontal
49°51'12.20 N
6°55'50.25 E



Hello,

Galeria Dhrontal coordinates is that for you ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlJA4wpqWMs&feature=related

because this year, i hope to go there.. . ;)

[WRXedUSA]

Thanks for the Google overlays!

I can't wait till August!

The route looks more compact than the one in 2004 when I was there last.

[HaCo]

Duval in a Ford! :D :D
http://sport.turbomagazine.be/news_FR_4591_Allemagne__Franois_Duval_de_retour_en _Focus_WRC_.html

I hope he uses his head and of course his right foot to go flat out! :D

[Juha_Koo]

Duval in a Ford! :D :D
http://sport.turbomagazine.be/news_FR_4591_Allemagne__Franois_Duval_de_retour_en _Focus_WRC_.html

I hope he uses his head and of course his right foot to go flat out! :D

Great news! :)

Hoping to see this kind of attitude again (07:48)... ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E7kpk4V7qg

[Daniel]

Duval in a Ford! :D :D
http://sport.turbomagazine.be/news_FR_4591_Allemagne__Franois_Duval_de_retour_en _Focus_WRC_.html

I hope he uses his head and of course his right foot to go flat out! :D
Nice work from Malcolm there. Lets not keep Duval in the team for long enough for him to be able to do anything. Lets bring him in once or twice a year and then complain when he crashes because he doesn't know the car well. Bravo Malcolm! Bravo!

[N.O.T]

I don't think malcom has any expectations from duval...its probably a sponsor thing since duval is well known in germany.

[igi]

I am big fan of Duval, but I dont think either Malcom has any particular plans for him. Both championships are already lost. Maybe he hopes Duval will help with setup.
He should hire him to develop fiesta, not focus

[alleskids]

Carlso Sainz will drive the 0 car. VW Motorsport has built a rally version of the Scirocco R-Cup car. The car will run on Bio-fuel

[MartijnS]

Duval Set to Join Stobart in Germany
François Duval will be joining the Stobart M-Sport Ford Rally Team as a guest driver in Rally Germany next month.

The 29-year-old Belgian driver will be competing at the wheel of a Ford Focus RS World Rally Car and will be nominated for points in the ninth round of the FIA World Rally Championship (WRC).
...


http://www.m-sport.co.uk/news/1115

[rallye-vid]

Hi there,

final update of my google earth rally deutschland stages.

Update:

stages based on rally guide 2[/*:m:1qhsii4w]
shakedown added[/*:m:1qhsii4w]
moved the routes to match the real street coordinates. should be fine with teleatlas and navteq maps.[/*:m:1qhsii4w]

Download:
http://hotfile.com/dl/55705907/4332924/WRC_DE_2010_v3.zip.html

cheers

[RicKT]

Hi there,

final update of my google earth rally deutschland stages.

Update:
stages based on rally guide 2[/*:m:1k8myo4l]
shakedown added[/*:m:1k8myo4l]
moved the routes to match the real street coordinates. should be fine with teleatlas and navteq maps.[/*:m:1k8myo4l]
Download:
http://hotfile.com/dl/55705907/4332924/WRC_DE_2010_v3.zip.html

cheers

Good stuff... thanks -

Just downloading now..

Rick

[RicKT]

Thank you for this. I have just been looking at it and it must of taken you a while to do.

Do you have any info or coordinates on the spectator points or good places on the stage ?

Do the Marshall's try and keep you "pinned" in Germany, or are you free to walk the stage to a point of your choice ?? (I suppose its a case of staying out of site of the Marshall's and going for a walk into the woodland! )

Thanks

Rick

[rallye-vid]

Hey Rick,

thx mate. it toke me about 7 hours to edit it.

right now i don't have any spectator points, but once i got them will update the file again.

the marshall's.. hard to say.. some of them are nice and let you go, some are screaming like a monkey ;)

just don't go over the street when the stage is running, it should be fine then.

cheers

[RicKT]

Hey Rick,

thx mate. it toke me about 7 hours to edit it.

right now i don't have any spectator points, but once i got them will update the file again.

the marshall's.. hard to say.. some of them are nice and let you go, some are screaming like a monkey ;)

just don't go over the street when the stage is running, it should be fine then.

cheers

Thanks -- Yeah I thought it must of taken you hours to do.

Look forward to seeing the next update. :)

Thanks

Rick

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

I start to make a list of drivers that will be (probalbly) at the start in Trier with WRCs or S2k cars.

WRC:
Loeb
Sordo
Ogier
P.Solberg
Räikkönnen
Hirvonen
Latvala
Wilson
Duval
PG Andersson?
Van Merksteijn sen. and jun.?
Östberg?
Jones?
Van eldik? (Subaru? or Mitsu?)
Wevers?
Tsojen?
Snobeck?
Block?

S2000:
Pons
Prokop
Sandell
LLovera
H. Solberg
Sousa
Tuohino
Kosciuszko
Brynildsen
Kalhle?
Wallenwein?
Kuipers?

Please add my list with other drives.

[MartijnS]

Van Loon - Focus WRC.
Ten Brinke - Focus WRC.

I don't think the van Merksteijn family will be there, not sure though.

[rallye-vid]

i've read van Merksteijn should test at 15.08 in veldenz/kirchberg

[WRXedUSA]

Which hotel in Trier is the rallyHQ?

Anybody know? I was there in 2004 last, but I can't remeber the name, if it is still the same.

danke!

[hari]

Which hotel in Trier is the rallyHQ?

The HQ is at:

Park Plaza Hotel
Nikolaus Koch Platz 1
Trier

[WRXedUSA]

Thank you!

[Ouninpohja]

you can see it on

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=12010

:cool:

[6789]

Block is doing Germany I'm pretty sure

[jbmarcus21]

On the website.. i dont find .. ticket for shakedown only, assistance park and one SS ??

[Salist]

On the website.. i dont find .. ticket for shakedown only, assistance park and one SS ??

The last year was 15 EUR.

[alleskids]

Duval's Stobart Ford Focus WRC
http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/88026

[Allyc85]

Duvals car looks good, though I doubt it will be the same shape when hes finished with it! I also read somewhere, I think it was Autosport where MW stated very clearly that it was Duval who wanted to hire the car and not that Ford wanted him!

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fordgordon.jpg

[N.O.T]

Great looking livery.

[Salist]

It's very nice livery!

[rallye-vid]

there is no day tickets anymore.

we have to pay now "stage tickets".. or buy the brown, silver, gold tickets

servicepark 5€ (not sure if each visit or / day)
shakedown 10€
10€ / stage (both runs). 2 different stages will make 20€
"panzerplatte" 15€ (both runs)

cheers

[Francis44]

Is rally paid now?! Damn things change.

Good old days where we just had to pay for accomodotions and dinners, I seriously dont see this working perfectly on such long stages but ok.

[rallye-vid]

nothing is for free here in germany..

[Francis44]

nothing is for free here in germany..

Im starting to believe that guy who said he would not be surprised if you had to start paying to take a piss, actually here you have to pay in some public bathrooms, but that's okay for me aslong as they have it clean :D .

[rallye-vid]

at least i have something for free for you guys ;)

will be up in some days

http://i28.tinypic.com/2mqrrbt.jpg

[Francis44]

at least i have something for free to you ;)

will be up in some days

Hahaha nice freebies :p .

[JFL]

Duvals car looks good, though I doubt it will be the same shape when hes finished with it! I also read somewhere, I think it was Autosport where MW stated very clearly that it was Duval who wanted to hire the car and not that Ford wanted him!

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fordgordon.jpg

Looks great.. pretty similar to his ERC livery... A few new sponsors I can see.. ;)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs541.ash1/31686_398639769349_851104349_3953446_1143063_n.jpg

[V.Gatev]

Entry list subject to FIA approval:
http://www.adac-rallye-deutschland.de/download/downloadsavefile.php?PHPSESSID=8beee16d022fdb81b72 13be107436107&pfad=/home/rallyede/public_html/v2/images//teilnehmer/nennungsliste/&datei=rallye_deutschland-100721-0087.pdf

[hari]

Entry list subject to FIA approval:
http://www.adac-rallye-deutschland.de/download/downloadsavefile.php?PHPSESSID=8beee16d022fdb81b72 13be107436107&pfad=/home/rallyede/public_html/v2/images//teilnehmer/nennungsliste/&datei=rallye_deutschland-100721-0087.pdf


Very good entrylist: 20 WRC, 13 S2000 and the rest is also very nice.

[jbmarcus21]

there is no day tickets anymore.

we have to pay now "stage tickets".. or buy the brown, silver, gold tickets

servicepark 5€ (not sure if each visit or / day)
shakedown 10€
10€ / stage (both runs). 2 different stages will make 20€
"panzerplatte" 15€ (both runs)

cheers

thank you ;) ....

[RICARDO75]

Ostberg with Fiesta S2000 from Stobart!

[noel157]

Ostberg with Fiesta S2000 from Stobart!

What happened to his Prodrive loyalty?

[Walach]

This step should have come sooner, IMO.

[mm1]

Nice to see Wittman on the list :)

[Blazquez]

Entry list is online!

Here are the dutch drivers

Start No. / driver / co- driver /car /class

15/ Mark van Eldik / Robin Buysmans /Subaru Impreza WRC 08 /A8
16/ Bernhard Ten Brinke / Eddy Chevaillier/Ford Focus RS WRC 08 /A8
19/ Dennis Kuipers / Frederic Miclotte/Ford Fiesta S2000/N4
122/ Kevin Abbring/ Erwin Mombaerts/Renault Clio R3 /A7
123/ Hans Weijs Jr./ Bjorn Degandt/Citroen C2 S1600 /A6
62/ Erik Wevers / Jalmar van Weeren/ Skoda Fabia WRC05/A8
63/ Bert de Jong /Ton Hollen/ Mitsubishi Lancer WRC05/A8
64/ Gert Huzink/ Aaldert Aaltink /Subaru Impreza WRC 05 /A8
65/ Rene Kuipers / Erwin Berkhof/Subaru Impreza WRC 08 /A8
66/ Henk Vossen /Johan Findhammer/ Mitsubishi Lancer WRC02/A8
67/ Erik van Loon / Harmen Scholtalbers/Ford Focus RS WRC 08 /A8
68/ Edwin Schilt / Jacco de Kluijver/Subaru Impreza WRC 08/A8
69/Jasper v. d. Heuvel/Martine Kolman/Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X /A8
73/ Erik Moree / Pascal Meijs /Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X /A8
86/ Henk van de Kamp/Arjan Valk /Ford Focus RS WRC 08 /A8

[MartijnS]

Henk vd Kamp drives a Seat Leon, no Focus :)

[Blazquez]

Henk vd Kamp drives a Seat Leon, no Focus :)

yhea i saw a little misstake i think some classes where wrong too =) overall it was okej! :D ;)

[JTLarsen]

Here are the dutch drivers

Start No. / driver / co- driver /car /class

15/ Mark van Eldik / Robin Buysmans /Subaru Impreza WRC 08 /A8
16/ Bernhard Ten Brinke / Eddy Chevaillier/Ford Focus RS WRC 08 /A8
19/ Dennis Kuipers / Frederic Miclotte/Ford Fiesta S2000/N4
122/ Kevin Abbring/ Erwin Mombaerts/Renault Clio R3 /A7
123/ Hans Weijs Jr./ Bjorn Degandt/Citroen C2 S1600 /A6
62/ Erik Wevers / Jalmar van Weeren/ Skoda Fabia WRC05/A8
63/ Bert de Jong /Ton Hollen/ Mitsubishi Lancer WRC05/A8
64/ Gert Huzink/ Aaldert Aaltink /Subaru Impreza WRC 05 /A8
65/ Rene Kuipers / Erwin Berkhof/Subaru Impreza WRC 08 /A8
66/ Henk Vossen /Johan Findhammer/ Mitsubishi Lancer WRC02/A8
67/ Erik van Loon / Harmen Scholtalbers/Ford Focus RS WRC 08 /A8
68/ Edwin Schilt / Jacco de Kluijver/Subaru Impreza WRC 08/A8
69/Jasper v. d. Heuvel/Martine Kolman/Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X /A8
73/ Erik Moree / Pascal Meijs /Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X /A8
86/ Henk van de Kamp/Arjan Valk /Ford Focus RS WRC 08 /A8

For a moment i muttered to myself "why waste time on displaying the Dutch drivers" till I realized what a badass list of cars that is!!! :D

[Mintexmemory]

at least i have something for free for you guys ;)

will be up in some days



Thanks again Rally-vid, the double hairpin looks interesting. Do you know where the car parks are located for shakedown?

So Thursday timetable
0800-1130 Shakedown
1200 Service Park Trier
1330 Real Supermarket Trier
1500 BBQ at Klusserath Campingplatz
1800 Back to Trier for service and official start
2100 Klusserath - Beers then sleep.

[pantealex]

Entry list subject to FIA approval:
http://www.adac-rallye-deutschland.de/download/downloadsavefile.php?PHPSESSID=8beee16d022fdb81b72 13be107436107&pfad=/home/rallyede/public_html/v2/images//teilnehmer/nennungsliste/&datei=rallye_deutschland-100721-0087.pdf


So there is no guest drivers in SWRC, why?
2x Fabia S2000 in Germany, they don´t want WRC-points and glory!

[Mirek]

Skoda Deutschland has exclusive contract with BFG. It's logical that they don't start where they would have to use Pirelli.

[rallye-vid]

@Mintexmemory - yes, i know. i'm working right now on the spectators points in my google earth map. once i'm done with it i'll add all car parks for the stages.

but you should buy anyway the official programme of rally deutschland when ur here (5&#8364 ;) .

cheers

[Mintexmemory]

@Mintexmemory - yes, i know. i'm working right now on the spectators points in my google earth map. once i'm done with it i'll add all car parks for the stages.

but you should buy anyway the official programme of rally deutschland when ur here (5€).

cheers
Will do, sorry for being an information leach. As I said before I owe you a drink- Decent bar in Trier? :up:

[rallye-vid]

hehe, i don't know any bars in trier. but a beer in the service parc after the shakedown maybe ;)

ok, here we go with the next update of my google earth rally deutschland 2010 stages:


info about closed roads[/*:m:3en44z6f]
spectators points added[/*:m:3en44z6f]
spectators points description[/*:m:3en44z6f]

next update will include the car parks.

here the new version: http://www.fileserve.com/file/GDVvtzF/WRC_DE_2010_v4.zip

cheers

http://i26.tinypic.com/t8kl6v.jpg

[JTLarsen]

rallye-vid you're a star! Thanks!

[CWJ]

hehe, i don't know any bars in trier. but a beer in the service parc after the shakedown maybe ;)

ok, here we go with the next update of my google earth rally deutschland 2010 stages:


info about closed roads[/*:m:215517od]
spectators points added[/*:m:215517od]
spectators points description[/*:m:215517od]

next update will include the car parks.

here the new version: http://www.fileserve.com/file/GDVvtzF/WRC_DE_2010_v4.zip

cheers



thx mate, great job - appreciate!

[JTLarsen]

I remember seeing a picture from the Panzerplatte stage with the remains of an old tank in the foreground and the stage in the background, could anyone please guide me to where that might be located?

[rallye-vid]

no idea mate, sry ..

[RicKT]

hehe, i don't know any bars in trier. but a beer in the service parc after the shakedown maybe ;)

ok, here we go with the next update of my google earth rally deutschland 2010 stages:

info about closed roads[/*:m:qfj9mwnu]
spectators points added[/*:m:qfj9mwnu]
spectators points description[/*:m:qfj9mwnu]
next update will include the car parks.

here the new version: http://www.fileserve.com/file/GDVvtzF/WRC_DE_2010_v4.zip

cheers




Thanks for doing this!!

Cheers

Rick

[Mintexmemory]

hehe, i don't know any bars in trier. but a beer in the service parc after the shakedown maybe ;)

ok, here we go with the next update of my google earth rally deutschland 2010 stages:

info about closed roads[/*:m:3km1756o]
spectators points added[/*:m:3km1756o]
spectators points description[/*:m:3km1756o]
next update will include the car parks.

here the new version: http://www.fileserve.com/file/GDVvtzF/WRC_DE_2010_v4.zip

cheers

I must be doing something stupid as I cant get the fileserve site to allow the download of v4 - Idiot instructions anyone?

[Mirek]

Click on marked green button ;)
http://img340.imageshack.us/f/helpi.jpg/

[Mintexmemory]

Done that, get 28 secs of animation from the icon and then nada! (BTW Popups allowed)

[Mirek]

Strange, it works to me. I uploaded the same file here: http://www.ulozto.cz/5453784/wrc-de-2010-v4.zip

Download is the large green button "Stahnout Free" but You have to rewrite the image upon that.

[rallye-vid]

the download works, checked it myself now (with opera and firefox).

[Allar]

Bad ass list of cars!

[rallye-vid]

Here we go,

the very last update of my google earth rally deutschland 2010 stages


added car parks[/*:m:3c769f67]
added GPS coordinates for the car parks[/*:m:3c769f67]
added access roads for the car parks (in colour of stage)[/*:m:3c769f67]
added points accessible by wheelchair[/*:m:3c769f67]

Download v5: http://www.fileserve.com/file/7KM2kvz

But please buy anyway the official programme in the service parc after the shakedown!

Problems with download? Try another browser (opera, firefox).

http://i25.tinypic.com/x3tt8g.jpg

cheers ;)

[Mintexmemory]

the download works, checked it myself now (with opera and firefox).

Thanks guys, Czech site worked :) on IE

[Tom206wrc]

Entry list subject to FIA approval:
http://www.adac-rallye-deutschland.de/download/downloadsavefile.php?PHPSESSID=8beee16d022fdb81b72 13be107436107&pfad=/home/rallyede/public_html/v2/images//teilnehmer/nennungsliste/&datei=rallye_deutschland-100721-0087.pdf







But I thought Aaron Burkart did use the Racing Lions 207 S2000 in Italy and Germany to prepare Rally Deutschland :confused:

[rallye-vid]

updated entry list from 3. August:

http://rallye-deutschland.de/download/downloadsavefile.php?PHPSESSID=9874a05fe9cb9755d7a d9caa81fe3674&pfad=/home/rallyede/public_html/v2/images//presse/presseinfos2010/&datei=rallye_deutschland-100803-0104.pdf

[jbmarcus21]

Anybody has complete shakedwn vid please ?

[rallye-vid]

found only this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jtcA2wyQQI

[RicKT]

updated entry list from 3. August:

http://rallye-deutschland.de/download/downloadsavefile.php?PHPSESSID=9874a05fe9cb9755d7a d9caa81fe3674&pfad=/home/rallyede/public_html/v2/images//presse/presseinfos2010/&datei=rallye_deutschland-100803-0104.pdf


Thanks -

Rick

[rallye-vid]

Slowly Sideways cars on the rally deutschland 2010:


C39 Ford Anglia 1961
C38 Wartburg 311 Rallye 1964
C37 Ford Escort MK1 TC 1969
C35 Daf 555 1970
C36 Lancia Fulvia 1600 HF 1971
C33 Wartburg 353 1972
C22 Alfa Romeo GTV 1750 1973
C32 Alpine A 110 1973
C30 Opel Ascona A Automatik 1973
C14 Jide 1600 1972 Proto
C26 Opel Ascona A 1973
C34 Toyota Corolla 1974
C40 Porsche 911 1974
C31 Lancia Stratos 1975
C29 Skoda 120 S 1975
C7 Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye 1976
C25 Alpine A 310 1976
C28 Lancia Stratos 1976
C24 Fiat 131 Abarth 1978
C15 Triumph TR7 V8 1978
C23 Opel Kadett GT/E 1978
C21 Saab 99 Turbo 1979
C18 Opel Ascona B 1979
C27 Mercedes 280 CE 1980
C20 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus 1981
C19 Porsche 924 GT Turbo 1981
C17 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus 1982
C16 Porsche 911 SC 1982
C13 Mercedes 500 SL 1982
C5 Audi Quattro 1982
C12 Nissan 240 RS 1983
C11 Renault 5 Turbo 1984
C10 Audi Sport Quattro 1985
C2 MG Metro 6R4 1986
C3 Toyota Celica Turbo 1986
C8 Peugeot 205 T 16E2 1986
C1 Toyota MR 2 1987 Proto
C4 Lancia Delta Integrale 1988
C6 Lancia Delta Integrale 1991
C MG Metro 6R4 1986

[RicKT]

Hello,

Im looking for some advice regarding which stages and viewing areas are worth going to for each stage.

Using the "Google Earth Map Pack" provided by rallye-vid (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/member.php?u=201245) in this thread, I am now at the stage of plotting the Car Parks into my TOMTOM as points of intrest.

Using the data provided in the "Google Earth Map Pack", please can you post next to each stage, the Car park number ie P1 and Specator Zone, ie Z1 which you think will be worth going to????

In return for this information, I will upload the TOMTOM POI file which will include all car parks for each stage,

DAY 1 (Sunrise: 6:30, Sunset: 20:41) Friday 20 August 2010

SS 1 Ruwertal / Fell - 09:43
SS 2 Grafschaft Veldenz - 10:46
SS 3 Moselland - 11:34
SS 4 Ruwertal / Fell - 14:32
SS 5 Grafschaft Veldenz - 15:35
SS 6 Moselland - 16:23

DAY 2 (Sunrise: 6:32, Sunset: 20:40) Saturday 21 August 2010

SS 7 Hermeskeil / Gusenburg - 07:48
SS 8 St. Wendeler Land - 08:31
SS 9 Freisen / Westrich - 09:04
SS 10 Arena Panzerplatte - 10:30
SS 11 Hermeskeil / Gusenburg - 14:43
SS 12 St. Wendeler Land - 15:26
SS 13 Freisen / Westrich - 15:59
SS 14 Arena Panzerplatte - 17:25


DAY 3 (Sunrise: 6:33, Sunset: 20:38) Sunday 22 August 2010
SS 15 Dhrontal - 07:28
SS 16 Moselwein - 08:03
SS 17 Dhrontal - 10:36
SS 18 Moselwein - 11:11
SS 19 SSS Circus Maximus Trier - 13:03


Thank you

Rick

[Mintexmemory]

:bounce: 1 week to go before I arrive in Klusserath. Long range weather forecast looks encouraging. Tent checked, food bought. Just passes left to buy. Marking up print-out maps this weekend for routes between viewing points. How many other forum posters besides Rick T, Rallye-Vid and me are going?
I presume the Slowly Sideways times will be in the Rally Programme, looks like a similar (brilliant) list to the Rally Catalunya show - BUT no RS1800s

[rallye-vid]

the slowly sideways guys drives only the first run of each SS like i know.

if you want more action with them:



Special event: After SS10 (Panzerplatte) two hours of historic rally car action. Several laps of circuit runs past the spectator areas Turm, Kleine Platte, Gina, Platte Nord, but not past Maiwald and Reichenbach


On sunday (Circus Maximus), citroen will show they new electric race car "Survolt"

http://www.mibz.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Citroen-Survolt-at-Le-Mans-27-500x318.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

the slowly sideways guys drives only the first run of each SS like i know.

if you want more action with them:



Excellent, as I'm going to stay at Panzerplatte for the second running that will be good. Will still stay at Moselland on Friday to see the Slowly Sideways as, if Catalunya is a good guide, several old cars don't make it through Friday without breaking down.

[rallye-vid]

i dunno, but i'll better watch SS1 Ruwertal/Fell and maybe move then to some other SS or stay there for the second run.

it's always good to watch the very first stage.. who knows how many cars you will get to see on SS2 and later ;)

[Mintexmemory]

True dat :cool: . I'm looking to watch the first 20 through SS1 get back to SS3 for the first run and then, if possible move to another position at Moselland for the second run, going back to Service after the best S2000 cars have passed.

[rallye-vid]

I don't know if you know it guys, but there is a nice software for the PC that let you plan your route and exports it for you navigation system:

http://www.benichou-software.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=4&lang=en

It works with "waypoints" so you can create the route like you want to avoid i.e closed roads.

Here my sample route for - Schweich -> SS15 "Galeria Dhron" - I just export it in the supported file format of my navigation device and load it there.

http://i38.tinypic.com/1ftixu.jpg

[royg]

:bounce: 1 week to go before I arrive in Klusserath. Long range weather forecast looks encouraging. Tent checked, food bought. Just passes left to buy. Marking up print-out maps this weekend for routes between viewing points. How many other forum posters besides Rick T, Rallye-Vid and me are going?
I presume the Slowly Sideways times will be in the Rally Programme, looks like a similar (brilliant) list to the Rally Catalunya show - BUT no RS1800s

I'll be there. A couple of us are having a real "Rally-fest" - Rallye Deutschland then IRC Barum Rally the next weekend. Should be a good trip! ! :) :)

We're camping at Sensweiler - pretty much midway between the Mosel & Panzerplatz groups of stages.

RoyG

[RicKT]

:p : :D :D
I don't know if you know it guys, but there is a nice software for the PC that let you plan your route and exports it for you navigation system:

http://www.benichou-software.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1&Itemid=4&lang=en

It works with "waypoints" so you can create the route like you want to avoid i.e closed roads.

Here my sample route for - Schweich -> SS15 "Galeria Dhron" - I just export it in the supported file format of my navigation device and load it there.



I have been using MyPOI Manger to plot the POI for the stages car parks and routes from your Google earth file.

I found some of the apps to convert from Google Earth to tomtom POI set latitude as 0000000.

If you have any routes/waypoints configured, you have my email address :-)

Its a shame there's not more of us heading out from the UK, Im staying 15 mins work from the centre of Trier and 10 mins from the service park.



Cheers

Rick

[rallye-vid]

Hi Rick,

i have some routes (kml format for my igo). as i'm sleeping in schweich i created them from there to a point i want to watch.. so it will be not interesting for ya if u're sleeping elsewhere.

the software i posted above should convert kml routes into a tomtom format, so give it a try.

cheers

PS. i'll attach a kml route from Hermeskeil SS7 to Panzerplatte SS10 (park car P1). Just load it into the itn converter and try to export it as a tomtom file.

on the Hermeskeil SS i want to watch a jump, then move (in rally speed cos of the time ;) ) to Panzerplatte "Turm"

http://i34.tinypic.com/ljhpc.jpg

[Motorsportfun]

Alex Raschi was forced to change co-driver today, because is injured and can't do Rally Deutschland! =(

[RicKT]

Hi Rick,

i have some routes (kml format for my igo). as i'm sleeping in schweich i created them from there to a point i want to watch.. so it will be not interesting for ya if u're sleeping elsewhere.

the software i posted above should convert kml routes into a tomtom format, so give it a try.

cheers

PS. i'll attach a kml route from Hermeskeil SS7 to Panzerplatte SS10 (park car P1). Just load it into the itn converter and try to export it as a tomtom file.

on the Hermeskeil SS i want to watch a jump, then move (in rally speed cos of the time ;) ) to Panzerplatte "Turm"



Thanks for this.. I will take a look, since posting i have been using "MYPOI Manager" to create some routes for me..

Going back to my question in the above post, Im still trying to plan which stages on which days... im thinking it will only me possible to get 2 stages per day due to traffic, (when in Sweden we was able to get 3 per day in)

Any recommendation for the below.. (as im having to review each stage and make judgement based of results from prevoius years in google.)

Much appreciated.


SS 1 Ruwertal / Fell - 09:43
SS 2 Grafschaft Veldenz - 10:46
SS 3 Moselland - 11:34
SS 4 Ruwertal / Fell - 14:32
SS 5 Grafschaft Veldenz - 15:35
SS 6 Moselland - 16:23

DAY 2 (Sunrise: 6:32, Sunset: 20:40) Saturday 21 August 2010

SS 7 Hermeskeil / Gusenburg - 07:48
SS 8 St. Wendeler Land - 08:31
SS 9 Freisen / Westrich - 09:04
SS 10 Arena Panzerplatte - 10:30
SS 11 Hermeskeil / Gusenburg - 14:43
SS 12 St. Wendeler Land - 15:26
SS 13 Freisen / Westrich - 15:59
SS 14 Arena Panzerplatte - 17:25


DAY 3 (Sunrise: 6:33, Sunset: 20:38) Sunday 22 August 2010
SS 15 Dhrontal - 07:28
SS 16 Moselwein - 08:03
SS 17 Dhrontal - 10:36
SS 18 Moselwein - 11:11
SS 19 SSS Circus Maximus Trier - 13:03

[bluuford]

When will the picems become available?

I just noticed that Loeb has won this rally 7 years in a row. Unfortunately he cannot do it 8 or 10 years in a row ;-) Of-course if he stays another 10 years in the sport and wins next 10 events then it is possible :-)

[Barreis]

xd

[darkstar]

this is my very best of rallye deutschland from the years 2002 till 2008, i hope you enjoy :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEUnFfjYll4

[N.O.T]

great video...Well done...any downloable HQ version ?

[HaCo]

Great video!!

[rallye-vid]

btw, you can buy the official programme & bronze (brown) tickets on all info points around trier (highway car parks/rest areas).

full info where to find them: http://rallye-deutschland.de/zuschauer/index.php?SID&flash=&lg=e&st=229&op=id&showall=&allge=&

so you can watch the shakedown without to pay 10EUR extra for the stage ticket ;)

[RicKT]

btw, you can buy the official programme & bronze (brown) tickets on all info points around trier (highway car parks/rest areas).

full info where to find them: http://rallye-deutschland.de/zuschauer/index.php?SID&flash=&lg=e&st=229&op=id&showall=&allge=&

so you can watch the shakedown without to pay 10EUR extra for the stage ticket ;)


Thanks for this,

It was mentioned earlier in the thread that you can just buy the tickets per stage, is this still the case ?

Cheers

Rick

[FLO]

Hello,where is big jump on panzerplatte?

[rallye-vid]

FLO - download my google earth stages and u'll find it

RicKT - yes, you can still buy the stage tickets instead of the bronze 4-day ticket.

[RicKT]

RicKT - yes, you can still buy the stage tickets instead of the bronze 4-day ticket.

Thanks :dozey:

[fastboy]

What time do they close the roads off to the public?
Is it the night before or 3 or 4 hours before the first car ?

[FLO]

RicKT (http://www.worldmotorsport.com/member.php?u=96562) Thanks!!

[alexlake]

this is my very best of rallye deutschland from the years 2002 till 2008, i hope you enjoy :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEUnFfjYll4

great watch! :D

[rallye-vid]

fastboy - hard to say.. 3-4 hours is a good time.. but some roads are closed since thursday/friday

u'll find more info in the official proggramme

[RicKT]

TOMTOM POINTS OF INTEREST FILES, - ALL CAR PARKS

Following the great work from Rally-Vid with the Google Earth files, I thought it was time i repaid the favour to the forum.

I have created a TOMTOM POI file which includes all the car parks for every stage as listed in Rally-Vid's Google Earth files.

I have checked every car park location on the POI to the Google earth file and the POI is within 15 metres.

Hopefully you should have no issues downloading and installing onto your TOMTOM. (But please do at your own risk, and remember to make a back up before making changes.)

If you have any issues etc, let me know.

Cheers

Rick

[Ondra WRC]

Video from test Sebastien Loeb - Daniel Elena:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Rywzv-nt6M&feature=player_embedded

[JFL]

Just got a mail from our hotel that it was a mistake and they were booked out .. We are 3 adult from 34 to 59 years of age... Can anybody help us with a room? No party.. Just rally and serios business.. ;)

[rallye-vid]

JFL - [email:50oyol3b]info@hotel-grefen.de[/email:50oyol3b]

http://www.hotel-grefen.de/

try to ask them if they have still some free rooms.

the hotel is located in Schweich - about 30km to fridays and sundays SS.. a bit more to drive at saturday. so it's a great location.

[FLO]

Wheather condition thursday-sunday?chance to rain?thanks

[Ondra WRC]

Video from test Michal Kosciuszko (Škoda Fabia S2000)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbZAvJt7nV4

[rallye-vid]

Wheather condition thursday-sunday?chance to rain?thanks

http://www.wetter.com/wetter_aktuell/wettervorhersage/7_tagesvorhersage/?id=DE0010618

[V.Gatev]

Hello.

Does any TV will transmit directly Ceremonial Start and the Prize giving ceremony of the rally Germany? :)

[RicKT]

Hello.

Does any TV will transmit directly Ceremonial Start and the Prize giving ceremony of the rally Germany? :)


No UK TV stations do which im aware of..

[RicKT]

TOP TIP - Fuel for spectator's


Fuel prices

Depending where you are staying, just to let you know that the typical price per litre of diesel in Trier/Germany is around 1.30 euros per litre, over the boarder in Luxemburg it is only 0.97 euro/cents per litre.

May save you a few quid on a full tank!


Please note that the price of petrol (/gasoline if you prefer) in Lexemburg is the same across the country, as it is fixed by government decree, and hence there's no difference in cost whether you get your fuel at a tiny petrol station in the middle of nowhere, or on the motorway.

Theres a service station on the E44 just after the boarder from Germany in LUX


Cheers

[Mintexmemory]

TOP TIP - Fuel for spectator's


Fuel prices

Depending where you are staying, just to let you know that the typical price per litre of diesel in Trier/Germany is around 1.30 euros per litre, over the boarder in Luxemburg it is only 0.97 euro/cents per litre.

May save you a few quid on a full tank!



Theres a service station on the E44 just after the boarder from Germany in LUX


Cheers
Top man. I'd been expecting to pay at least 1.35.

[RicKT]

Top man. I'd been expecting to pay at least 1.35.

No problem - :) -- On 70 litres its a fair old saving!!

Without going off topic, im hoping to get there on 1 tank of fuel as the route is around 650 miles.

Rick

[fastboy]

Is there a local radio station that follows the rally ?
If there is, can anyone post up the radio frequency . Thanks

[Mintexmemory]

And on the subject of parasitic tightwad UK rally fans (although the French on Forum Sport-Auto seem obsessed with not buying passes) can anyone provide info on free wi-fi hubs in Trier :bandit: ?

[ProRally]

How was the PWRC test today ? Did anybody go watch ?

[Ondra WRC]

Video from test Hayden Paddon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyJBvze6Lac&playnext=1&videos=2dnYCozQI7w

[FF-fan]

Is there a local radio station that follows the rally ?
If there is, can anyone post up the radio frequency . Thanks

ADAC was able to win over HITRADIO RPR EINS as the rally radio station for the whole region.

Under the direction of the RPR studios Eifel-Saar-Mosel, radio reporters will be reporting from all over the rally region on four VHFs (100,1 + 102,6 +102,1 +102,9) on the hour, after the world news. They will provide rally fans with results, news, spectator tips and traffic jam information.

HITRADIO RPR EINS will be reporting on the rally on:

Thursday, 19 August from 1 p.m. to 8 p.m.
Friday, 20 August from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Saturday, 21 August from 7 a.m. to 9 p.m.
Sunday, 22 August from 6 a.m. to 3 p.

[rallye-vid]

hi there,

i'm already in trier writing right now from my notebook on a lidl car park ;)

i was yesterday on the test stage in brauneberg where ken block and j-m latvala were testing for the rally.

block was many times out of the road, so i think we will not see him at saturday anymore ;) it was like: "damn i'm in the corner now, ok so break and try to get the line.. oops, too late .. the corner was too tight"

latvala was going well.

about gasoline: normal (95 octan) its in trier 1,40 €/L
i was just in luxembourg right after the border and got it for 1,15€ :)

you should take some rain clothes with cos the weather is right now really bad.. it's not raining all the time but a lot..

cheers, will check the forums later.

[Mirek]

Video of Block and Latvala is here: http://vimeo.com/14190572

Ken looks really very slow.

[Josti]

]Ken looks really very slow.

Yes, I even think René Kuipers can beat him.

[Motorsportfun]

any pic from the service park or the Circus Maximus stage?

[WRXedUSA]

hehe, i don't know any bars in trier. but a beer in the service parc after the shakedown maybe ;)

ok, here we go with the next update of my google earth rally deutschland 2010 stages:


info about closed roads[/*:m:1zyoftsk]
spectators points added[/*:m:1zyoftsk]
spectators points description[/*:m:1zyoftsk]

next update will include the car parks.

here the new version: http://www.fileserve.com/file/GDVvtzF/WRC_DE_2010_v4.zip

cheers

http://i26.tinypic.com/t8kl6v.jpg

You = Awesome.

Be there Thursday!

[Salist]

One night and go to Trier! :)

[Mintexmemory]

Saab 93-s flying 2 union jacks, come and say hello if you spot us

[RicKT]

1 more sleep before the epic 650 mile drive!! (Its a case of getting in the car and not getting out till Trier !! )

Rick

[Pinto]

]Video of Block and Latvala is here: http://vimeo.com/14190572

Ken looks really very slow.

thanks mirek for the vid

yes block looks very slow he could be out for a hiding by some of the privater's

[gloomyDAY]

You guys pay a ridiculous amount of money for gas!

Anyway, can't wait for the rally. One of my favorite on the calendar.

I also want to see whether or not Kimi can actually finish a rally.

[WRXedUSA]

You guys pay a ridiculous amount of money for gas!

Anyway, can't wait for the rally. One of my favorite on the calendar.

I also want to see whether or not Kimi can actually finish a rally.

Says Mr. $3.30/gal! I couldn't wait to get home and enjoy the $2.85 during the Xgames!

It is cheaper in Lux though. I got hosed at the Shell station in Trier a few years back. thanks for the tip fellas.

[N.O.T]

you could always come to greece and pay 1.7-1.8 euro/litre and brag to your friends how filthy rich you are that you spit in the face of petrol prices....good idea ?

[ProRally]

You guys pay a ridiculous amount of money for gas!

Anyway, can't wait for the rally. One of my favorite on the calendar.

I also want to see whether or not Kimi can actually finish a rally.

In Andorra
S.P. 98 1,11 €
S.P. 95 1,06 €
Diesel 0,95 €

Ok, not close to Trier but still.... :D :D :D

[Viking]

Sinse this has become the petrol price tread..

http://www.drive-alive.co.uk/fuel_prices_europe.html

We seems to be "on top" of the list, what an surprise :D

[JFL]

Sinse this has become the petrol price tread..

http://www.drive-alive.co.uk/fuel_prices_europe.html

We seems to be "on top" of the list, what an surprise :D
Good thing we have the cheapest cars... ;)

[ProRally]

So recce must be coming to an end... Any issues ? Nobody caught speeding ? No head ons with garbage trucks ? :D :D

[RICARDO75]

Mads Östberg with a new Fiesta S2000 (http://www.madsostberg.no/index.php/news/214-mads-and-jonas-in-rally-deutschland)

[mdesign]

Mads Östberg with a new Fiesta S2000 (http://www.madsostberg.no/index.php/news/214-mads-and-jonas-in-rally-deutschland)
I guess prodrive needs some feedback on how the fiesta handles in order to compare to their Mini Countryman.

[ProRally]

I guess prodrive needs some feedback on how the fiesta handles in order to compare to their Mini Countryman.

They know very well as the engineers on Ketomaa and Nasser's cars are Prodrive engineers.... :D :D :D

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_duval__giraudet_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_19ae7dc99 f.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_atmosfera_f8d8f327c3.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_latvala__antilla_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_3793835c d9.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_sordo__vallejo_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_324913ff2c .jpg

More photos from Germany before start HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=768&fseason=2010) ;)

[DonJippo]

They know very well as the engineers on Ketomaa and Nasser's cars are Prodrive engineers.... :D :D :D

No wonder Ketomaa's Fiesta breaks down so often ... :p :

[ProRally]

No wonder Ketomaa's Fiesta breaks down so often ... :p :

:D :D woooaaawwwhhhhaaaaaa

If Jari does not hit the lightposts in the parc fermé ...... :D :D

Sorry Jari.....

[MartijnS]

Leaving in about 5.5 hours :D Looking forward to it!

[RicKT]

Leaving in about 5.5 hours :D Looking forward to it!

Leaving in 30 minutes !! :)

[6789]

Shakedown should start in a few hours, anywhere to find/follow the times?

Should be an exciting rally, especially if there's some rain!

[muscrae]

C4's left the service park for SD... It should start @ 8.00 A.M...

[Micke_VOC]

any news from shakedown ?

[Ondra WRC]

online times from shakedown?

[paddocknews]

After the first run, Dani Sordo has the fastest time (3'40''1)

[Lo]

Solberg 3.39.4 (4 runs)
Sordo 3.40.1 (3 runs)
Loeb 3.40.7 (3 runs)
Hirvonen 3.42.7 (4 runs)
Duval 3.42.8 (2 runs)
Ogier 3.43.3 (3 runs)
Raikkonen 3.44.8 (4 runs)
Latvala 3.45.5 (4 runs)

[6789]

Is it raining today?

[User]

First race of the season I shall follow closely .. Go Duval :)

[bluuford]

Is it raining today?

From the weather maps it looks like there is no rain today, will not rain tomorrow and will not rain until Saturday evening. Further forecast is a bit difficult to call, because rainclouds can reach very close to the rally site.
Temperature will be between 20 and 25 every day. But nights will be quite cold. Tonight it will even between +10 and +15.

[RICARDO75]

Between +10 and +15? That's winter temparatures here, in Azores

[Mirek]

What is also very interesting is that Henning Solberg is the fastest S2000 driver on shakedown infront of PG. Others are way slower.

Complete results so far (seeded by names):
http://www.rallye-deutschland.de/presse/datei.php?SID==1&lg=d&st=210&

[Juha_Koo]

]What is also very interesting is that Henning Solberg is the fastest S2000 driver on shakedown infront of PG.

Actually that doesn't surprise me at all. As Henning has said, he can drive on tarmac. For the first time in his career he's got a real tarmac car and the results are visible.

[BVB Rallying]

Nice to see that Kevin Abbring is the fastest J-WRC-driver and only did 1 run. I guess Neuville had a problem on run 1 (7:39.4).

[FAlonso]

And Armindo Araújo fastest in P-WRC. 2 runs.

[6789]

Actually that doesn't surprise me at all. As Henning has said, he can drive on tarmac. For the first time in his career he's got a real tarmac car and the results are visible.
Don;t want to jinx Henning but it would be awesome for him to get a win in the S2000 class. Petter doing well, still think Loeb would be foxing alittle

[Sulland]

]What is also very interesting is that Henning Solberg is the fastest S2000 driver on shakedown infront of PG. Others are way slower.

Complete results so far (seeded by names):
http://www.rallye-deutschland.de/presse/datei.php?SID==1&lg=d&st=210&

Henning loved driving the Fiesta in Bulgaria, and did good times. Said the feeling was as driving a gokart. Would be interesting to see him in a C4 on tarmac.

So no wonder the fords are struggling on asfalt.....

[6789]

From the weather maps it looks like there is no rain today, will not rain tomorrow and will not rain until Saturday evening. Further forecast is a bit difficult to call, because rainclouds can reach very close to the rally site.
Temperature will be between 20 and 25 every day. But nights will be quite cold. Tonight it will even between +10 and +15.

Cheers for the update.

[JFL]

Henning loved driving the Fiesta in Bulgaria, and did good times. Said the feeling was as driving a gokart. Would be interesting to see him in a C4 on tarmac.

So no wonder the fords are struggling on asfalt.....

I never doubted him... Finally he got some testing and a topspec car.. let's see..
I'm headed for Germany tomorrow..

[Sulland]

I never doubted him... Finally he got some testing and a topspec car.. let's see..
I'm headed for Germany tomorrow..

Prost !

[Tom206wrc]

Nice !!!! On http://www.wrc.com/ they didn't even update the infos about Rally Germany(itinerary, entrylist,...)... :rolleyes:

[Hartusvuori]

Nice !!!! On http://www.wrc.com/ they didn't even update the infos about Rally Germany(itinerary, entrylist,...)... :rolleyes:

That really is a shame. How can't they get it right? Glad our friends at eWRC help, though no entries there either...

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_duval__giraudet_%28ford_focus_wrc%29_4ba7c7eed 2.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_solberg__patterson_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_426ab0 945e.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_ostberg__andersson_%28ford_fiesta_s2000%29_ccb 16f00b5.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_raikkonen__lindstrom_%28citroen_c4_wrc%29_13b3 69364d.jpg

More photos from Germany HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=768&fseason=2010) ;)

[pantealex]

Nice !!!! On http://www.wrc.com/ they didn't even update the infos about Rally Germany(itinerary, entrylist,...)... :rolleyes:
Now they have them!

[Barreis]

Why does it Ostberg use this kind of tyres when there's no rain?!

[V.Gatev]

JWRC shakedown times:
1.Slavov 4:06,2
2.Abbring 4:06,7
3.Weijs 4:07,3
4.Arzenno 4:07,8
5.Neuville 4:10,1
6.Lemes 4:12,4
7.Reidemann 4:22,3
8.Kruuda 4:25,0
9.Valdez Lopez 4:30,7

[N.O.T]

Why does it Ostberg use this kind of tyres when there's no rain?!

from the rest of the pictures on the site seems that every ford s2000 is using the same...

[bluuford]

Why does it Ostberg use this kind of tyres when there's no rain?!

I think the amount of tires is quite restricted for the rally and there is no rain in forecast so far. So, it is wise to use rain tires when you are just practicing. Or maybe he just wants to know how different tires handle on the tarmac. And it looks the stages is full of grave, so maybe softer is better.

[RICARDO75]

Video from shakedown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7cDMCwScM8

[Tom206wrc]

JWRC shakedown times:
1.Slavov 4:06,2
2.Abbring 4:06,7
3.Weijs 4:07,3
4.Arzenno 4:07,8
5.Neuville 4:10,1
6.Lemes 4:12,4
7.Reidemann 4:22,3
8.Kruuda 4:25,0
9.Valdez Lopez 4:30,7



Could be a great battle of C2 S1600 between Weijs Jr, Neuville and Arzeno :)

[RICARDO75]

SWRC/ S2000 shakedown times:

1st 17 Henning Solberg - FORD 3m 52,3s
2nd 53 Per-Gunnar Andersson - SKODA0 +02,5s
3rd 18 Mads Östberg - FORD0 +03,8s
4th 28 Xavier Pons - FORD +04,3s
5th 24 Patrik Sandell - SKODA +04,9s
6th 25 Eyvind Brynildsen - SKODA +05,7s
7th 26 Bernardo Sousa - FORD +06,3s
8th 21 Martin prokop - FORD +06,6s
9th 23 Michal Kosciuszko - SKODA +06,6s
10th 19 Dennis Kuipers - FORD +14,6s
11th 61 Franz Wittmann Jr. - PEUGEOT +15,4s
12th 30 Albert Llovera - FIAT +32,2s

[Daniel]

Why does it Ostberg use this kind of tyres when there's no rain?!
Because there's gravel.....

[RICARDO75]

PWRC skakedown times:

1st Armindo Araújo - MITSUBISHI 4m 00,1s
2nd Toshi Arai - SUBARU +01,6s
3rd Ott Tänak - MITSUBISHI +02,4s
4th Alex Raschi - MITSUBISHI +03,0s
5th Hayden Paddon - MITSUBISHI +05,9s
6th Patrik Flodin - SUBARU +07,2s
7th Hermann Gassner Jr. - MITSUBISHI +11,1s
8th Florian Nigel - MITSUBISHI +14,2s
9th Reijo Muhonen - MITSUBISHI +15,3s
10th Michel Jordain - MITSUBISHI +17,6s
11th Peter Horsey - MITSUBISHI +28,2s
12th Nuno Barroso Pereira - SUBARU +30,1s

[logic]

Why does it Ostberg use this kind of tyres when there's no rain?!

That is the Pirelli regulation tarmac tire.

[harriswrc]

Does anybody know why Tuohino and Semerad won't start?

[RICARDO75]

Does anybody know why Tuohino and Semerad won't start?

Semerad had a big crash before an home event. Maybe he's still recovering.

[Mirek]

Yes, he is. I hope he's back soon.

[Juha_Koo]

Does anybody know why Tuohino and Semerad won't start?

Semerad is recovering from a severe accident which he and Michal Ernst suffered during a test for a Czech national rally just after Rally Finland.

No idea about Tuohino though... Maybe he's had enough - the whole season has been a real disappoitment.

[Barreis]

At least he's living in Dubai..

[mm1]

I saw his car was advertised in rallycars4sale aswell.

[RICARDO75]

I think this is the EVO 2 for Kosciuszko

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2010/768/768_kosciuszko__szczepaniak_(Skoda_fabia_s2000)_bf dc3bcb48.jpg

[pantealex]

I think this is the EVO 2 for Kosciuszko


He was with EVO2 in Finland, so nothing new here!

[RICARDO75]

He was with EVO2 in Finland, so nothing new here!

You're right!
But this car as a new plate, the one from Rally Finland was NM 04222.

[bluuford]

PWRC skakedown times:

1st Armindo Araújo - MITSUBISHI 4m 00,1s
2nd Toshi Arai - SUBARU +01,6s
3rd Ott Tänak - MITSUBISHI +02,4s
4th Alex Raschi - MITSUBISHI +03,0s
5th Hayden Paddon - MITSUBISHI +05,9s
6th Patrik Flodin - SUBARU +07,2s
7th Hermann Gassner Jr. - MITSUBISHI +11,1s
8th Florian Nigel - MITSUBISHI +14,2s
9th Reijo Muhonen - MITSUBISHI +15,3s
10th Michel Jordain - MITSUBISHI +17,6s
11th Peter Horsey - MITSUBISHI +28,2s
12th Nuno Barroso Pereira - SUBARU +30,1s

Well. It will be first ever tarmac rally for Tänak. Lets see how it goes for him.

Has Paddon competed on tarmac before?

I know that Flodin has been in Spain and Ireland before, in 2007, so he has done some rallies on tarmac in very distant past.

And I dont know about Horsey and Georgiou.. have they ever done any rallies on tarmac before?

So, it will be first tarmac rally for quite many drivers.

[Mirek]

You're right!
But this car as a new plate, the one from Rally Finland was NM 04222.

Skoda Italia uses German provisional plates - different for each car and each event. You can't follow their cars through plates ;)


Well. It will be first ever tarmac rally for Tänak. Lets see how it goes for him.

I saw Tänak on tarmac on PSD shootout last year and he wasn't slow ;)

[sollitt]

Has Paddon competed on tarmac before?

Hayden comes from the South Island of New Zealand where there are no tarmac rallies at all.
In fact there are very few tarmac rally events in New Zealand at all.

A couple of years ago he competed in a Targa event (a controlled classic type event with restrictions on tyre brand & numbers and on speeds) which is his only tarmac rally event to date to my knowledge.

So, like Tanak, he's very much a rookie here. I'm sure they'll both provide a great show though. Two exceptional talents.

[Comal]

Dno't forget that the Targa event Hayden did does not allow notes Bruce, so was no use at all really to him.

[ProRally]

Tuohino excluded from SWRC as he did not start WRC Germany

[PLuto]

Yes, it is true, he was excluded - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10917

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_0b35ea0e5c1e6194e704e2747a017368.jpg

[harriswrc]

Is it the same with Baldoni who didn't start at Finland and now at Germany?

[N.O.T]

does the exclusion include any fines as well?

[Mirek]

Yes, 3000 Euro to FIA + all remaining entry fees for nominated events.

[Barreis]

Few years before it was abandoned entries in any championship until end of the season..

[ZequeArgentina]

Baldoni was also excluded and fined, a provincial gov, cut the promised support and got without support.

[Munkvy]

]What is also very interesting is that Henning Solberg is the fastest S2000 driver on shakedown infront of PG. Others are way slower.

Complete results so far (seeded by names):
http://www.rallye-deutschland.de/presse/datei.php?SID==1&lg=d&st=210&
Henning is only 0.1 of a second behind Block in a WRC car... Thats a rather telling outcome!

Sure he maybe not used to the WRC car on tarmac, but talent is talent and a talented driver should be able to pick it up enough to be somewhat competitive within his own class of pay drivers surely? Even Wilson is several seconds faster than the S2000s...

[garais22]

Hi

I can`t open WRC radio in my job, can somebody give me mmss:// code?
I can put it in VLC player

Thanks

[tmx]

Yes I would like to know as well. They changes their site recently. I couldn't get the MMS to work anymore. I look at the radio page source code and got this: http://tx.sharp-stream.com/stream.php?c=north1fmmp3
Which leads to this: <video url="rtmp://wowza01.sharp-stream.com" app="north1fmmp3" stream="north1fmmp3"/>

Unfortunately, a quick googling found that VLC does not support RTMP format, and this format is for flash players (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol#RTMP_server_software)

I would appreciate if anyone have a working streaming link so I can listen to from my phone as well.

[René]

http://www.wrc.com/fanzone/world-rally-radio/pop/

[N.O.T]

2 minutes remain...right?

[Viking]

We are go, shutting my office door :)

[tmx]

http://www.wrc.com/fanzone/world-rally-radio/pop/ Yeah that is the RTMP format I mentioned to be played by flash players. Too bad many phones don't have Adobe Flash support so most won't play that. I know Android 2.2 Froyo is supposed to get Flash.

[N.O.T]

only Loeb in the splits...

[Koppomsbo]

Explorer keeps trowing me out of the splits :(

[jonkka]

Mikko faster than Ogi on 1st split

[HaCo]

As usual: Loeb in front! :(

[N.O.T]

Loeb wants to finish this early as it seems rom the 1st split.

[N.O.T]

the two fords have an experience advantage over Ogier so we might see a battle

[HaCo]

Ogier 9 down.

[HaCo]

Even on the official radio they say Sordo will not be allowed to win. This is sad.

[HaCo]

Solberg stucked in stage :( :( :(

[N.O.T]

Puncture for Solberg....

[Sulland]

Puncture for Petter !

Too bad.

[6789]

Puncture for Solberg....
:(

[Viking]

Petter lost 2:30 on the wheel change.

[N.O.T]

Raikonen returns to his epic battles with slowson.

[pettersolberg29]

Solberg is very quick though - fastest bar Loeb on 2nd split, and faster than Loeb between 3rd and 4th split. Maybe he can get a podium?

[bennizw]

Not after loosing two and a half minutes on a tarmac rally like this.

[N.O.T]

well the positive thing is that he got the puncture early so he has a lot of time to cover as much of the time lost.

[pettersolberg29]

Not after loosing two and a half minutes on a tarmac rally like this.

Yeah but I'm sure he wont be the only one getting a puncture. If Loeb and Sordo also get one the anything can happen...maybe I'm being too hopeful.

[Mirek]

At least there will be something to watch on top :)

[BVB Rallying]

Very sad to see that P. Solberg lost so much time.
This event was maybe a good change for a victory but we'll see what
the following stages bring...

[N.O.T]

Henning slower from every s2000 so far on 1st split.

[6789]

Henning slower from every s2000 so far on 1st split.
Must have had a bad start or something

[N.O.T]

yes because now he is back in the lead on split 3

[N.O.T]

Block is ridiculous....

[J4MIE]

Gutter for Petter, I guess he will go for it now but don't think a podium is possible. Seb wins again...... will Citroen let Sordo win in Spain?

[KKS]

No news about direct rally radio link for different players?

[6789]

Block is ridiculous....
Hopefully he keeps it on the road

[N.O.T]

Gutter for Petter, I guess he will go for it now but don't think a podium is possible. Seb wins again...... will Citroen let Sordo win in Spain?

they let ogier be ahead of seb in finland so i cannot see why not.....but i don't think he can.

[pettersolberg29]

For KKS: If you email [email:2dl4t437]radio@wrc.com[/email:2dl4t437] and ask, they normally respond very quickly.

[Viking]

Fords somewhat better here, 0.5 s/km down on Loeb.

[N.O.T]

Henning missed 2 junctions.....

[6789]

S2000 looks like a 3 way battle. PG, Henning and Prokop. And Ostberg is to some too, he must be wy down the entry list lol

Edit and Sandel and the rest, should be good battle!

[N.O.T]

don't count pons out ....

[Mirek]

PG had a spin and Sandell had small off too

[Mixa]

A good rally so far after the 1st stage. Shame about Petter but thats rallying. Loeb also seems to be very strong and Ford´s are improving,thats nice to see.

What comes to Block, by splits between 3rd and 4th he lost 23 seconds when guys like Kimi and Wilson just from 4 to 5. Al Qassimi lost just 8 so something must have happened. His time without that would been close to Kimi I would say.