Superstitious Schumacher wants Nico's number

[goodf1fun]

http://en.espnf1.com/mercedes/motorsport/story/7035.html (http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/driver/1146.html)
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/driver/1146.html
http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/driver/1146.html
Michael Schumacher (http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/driver/1146.html) has asked to switch race numbers with team-mate Nico Rosberg (http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/driver/1243.html) for this season.
Mercedes GP's first signing was Rosberg, and as such he was entered with the FIA under the No.3. This meant that Schumacher was due to take No.4, but Bild newspaper has revealed that he asked to swap with Rosberg. This is a move that will have to be approved by the FIA.
"Ross [Brawn] knows that I prefer to have odd race numbers," he said.
Odd numbers certainly seem to be lucky for him as he won all seven of his world championships racing odd numbered cars: once driving cars bearing No.3 and No.5 and five times in car No.1.
A car bearing the No.4 has never won the title, and in the last ten years has only recorded seven grand prix wins.
Schumacher is also sure he is fully fit for the challenge ahead. In an interview on his official website he denied reports that the neck injury that halted last year's comeback could be an issue.
"The after-effects of that accident are long gone, that's why I was sure that the neck would not cause any problems," he said." This was one year ago, that's over. I am training since December very carefully and feel extremely fresh and fit. That was one of the reasons why I felt so good in the car in Jerez [for his recent GP2 test]. But then, Formula One is another thing, the G-forces are higher, that's not really comparable. That is why I am looking forward so much to testing in February. Only then the old feeling will be completely back. I can't wait to be back there."
Mercedes plans to reveal the colour scheme of its 2010 car (http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/6815.html) in Germany on Monday, although the new car will not be seen until testing begins in Valencia on February 1.





Old good schumy is back :)

[JasonD]

I would tell him to sit on it and swivel.

[garyshell]

Just more of the MS mind game crap.

Gary

[Mark]

Yeah, nothing to do with 3 being the 'better' number than 4.

[Sonic]

Not sure if it mind games. I always wanted to have 4 in my race number - 34, 4, 24, 44. I never won a race with my non-four numbers - 6, 3, 2, 23. Superstitious? Or the world of quadless numbers out to get me?

[edv]

4 is definitely my favorite number.

[52Paddy]

Harmless - as long as he doesn't use it as an excuse if he's beaten by Rosberg.

[K-Pu]

There is a folk song here in Spain which is about an argument between 4 and 3, trying to decide who is the best number... After a long discussion, the 3 wins.
Their reasons are a bit odd, and mainly religious, but anyway the 3 wins.

Does MS know this? Coincidence? Chance? No! Something even worse and more obscure which can not be known by men...

Maybe he's a De La Soul fan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSnJ5uoyptY

[F1boat]

There is a folk song here in Spain which is about an argument between 4 and 3, trying to decide who is the best number... After a long discussion, the 3 wins.
Their reasons are a bit odd, and mainly religious, but anyway the 3 wins.

Does MS know this? Coincidence? Chance? No! Something even worse and more obscure which can not be known by men...

Yes. He is a Sith Lord.

[CNR]

also sported 19 and 5 at Benetton, and 3 and 5 at Ferrari
http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=39791

[Rollo]

A car bearing the No.4 has never won the title,

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/303947/brabham%20repco%20j.%20brabham.jpg

Sir Jack Brabham - 1966 World Champion
Brabham - 1966 Constructors Championship

oops... :D

[Rollo]

A car bearing the No.4 has never won the title,

http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/images/stew17.jpg

Sir Jackie Stewart - 1971 World Champion
Tyrell - 1971 Constructors Championship

Again oops... :D

[Saint Devote]

Rosberg should have said no - this is Schumacher's usual opening move to dominate a team and teammate.

Ferrari wanted Larini - Schumacher objected and agreed on Irvine.

Wonder what will happen if Rosberg is consistently quicker?

[speeddurango]

Not sure, but if Schumacher is constantly quicker than Rosberg then there will be floods of Merc team bias arguments pervading the motorsport website, originating from this number change, even though this is nothing but a mind game.

[Valve Bounce]

Yeah, nothing to do with 3 being the 'better' number than 4.

This will knock you right back!! The number 4, in Chinese sounds like death, and Asians try to avoid this number with its obvious connotations. When I was working in Seoul, our office was on the 4th floor but in the lift it as marked as A.

On the other hand, 8 is THE lucky number in Asia, and the licence number 8 sold in HK for much more than the cost of the new owner's car: a brand new Rolls.

However, a very good friend of mine with whom I sailed had a lucky licence number on his SAAB, and it was crushed in his company car park by a container. After the second time his SAABs were crushed, he changed the number to one which had a 4 in it - the car was never involved in an accident since. You win some, you lose some.

I can only say that maybe SchM was advised by a waiter in a Chinese restaurant not to accept 4 for his car.

[Saint Devote]

Not sure, but if Schumacher is constantly quicker than Rosberg then there will be floods of Merc team bias arguments pervading the motorsport website, originating from this number change, even though this is nothing but a mind game.

And I cannot but envisage Keke entering the fray verbally, publicly at that stage if they really do suspect favoritism - Keke is not the sort of father that interferes: when Nico had his first Williams test alongside Nelsinho, he watched from the grandstand while Nelson constantly intervened in the pits.

I think Rosberg will at least be quicker initially - and I hope he is - but if you recall a couple of years ago when Schumi tested he was actually QUICKEST in the Ferrari on one of the days.

Nico is going to HAVE to step up his approach to gain the full benefit of being in the same team and working with Ross Bawn and the importance of gaining favor.

Rubens was a known entity but Ross said that he was greatly impressed with Jenson's work ethic as well.

FOUR days until the Mercedes artwork is revealed :D

[F1boat]

This will knock you right back!! The number 4, in Chinese sounds like death, and Asians try to avoid this number with its obvious connotations. When I was working in Seoul, our office was on the 4th floor but in the lift it as marked as A.


Interesting. I have seen Michael with Chinese letters on his helmet. Do you think that this might be the reason?

[CNR]

91 wins 0 wins who would you want in the higher number car ?

[Koz]

91 wins 0 wins who would you want in the higher number car ?

I think this is MS's way to saying "I am number one. End of discussion."

[Hawkmoon]

I think this is MS's way to saying "I am number one. End of discussion."

Which is exactly what Mercedes should give him until he either proves he doesn't deserve it or Rosberg does something about it.

[Valve Bounce]

I think this is MS's way to saying "I am number one. End of discussion."

Excuse me, but I think he is saying that he is #3. :p :

[CNR]

Q: sponsership and indorsments ?

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[ArrowsFA1]

This is one of those things that can either be seen as totally irrelevant and just a driver expressing a preference, or as the first small sign of a driver asserting himself within a team over his team mate.

On the face of it which driver has which number doesn't matter a jot (we can barely see the numbers on the cars any more after all). It only matters if Rosberg lets this kind of thing mess with his head - not that MS is trying to do that of course!

[F1boat]

Well to be honest its only a number at the end of the day. If Nico is giving his number up then it shows he doesn't share the same superstitions, and could play to his advantage as its obviously a weakness in Michael.

I think I'd be strolling through the garage putting Michaels race boots on tables, and undoing the top on the salt cellar amongst other things. Michael may even find a black cat fast asleep in his cockpit in Valencia and the odd one strolling across the pitlane.. :p

And then Ross will fire the pretty boy.

[nigelred5]

I don't really care for either number. Big fan of the Number 5 myself, But Schummi doesn't have that choice this season. Many of the drivers I've followed over the years won the championship with the 5. ;)

[driveace]

Must say that i am superstitious myself,and 3 is always lucky for me,SO live in house No3 car has No3 on,and I always consider 3 lucky for ME !

[Big Ben]

I´m pretty superstitious myself. I think lots of money bring you good luck.

[grantb4]

Just more of the MS mind game crap.
Gary

Totally. He's being a d*ckhead already. The only thing that Rosberg had, Michael wanted.

[Valve Bounce]

Totally. He's being a d*ckhead already. The only thing that Rosberg had, Michael wanted.

If this non-issue is enough to upset Nico, then he is in for one helluva rough ride. :eek:

If anything, Rosberg should regard SchM as a mentor and try to learn as much as possible from him; there is experience to be gained and learn how to avoid certain errors. If Nico can also beat SchM, then well and good. But getting upset by letting the guy have his favourite number? Nah!!

[F1boat]

If this non-issue is enough to upset Nico, then he is in for one helluva rough ride. :eek:

If anything, Rosberg should regard SchM as a mentor and try to learn as much as possible from him; there is experience to be gained and learn how to avoid certain errors. If Nico can also beat SchM, then well and good. But getting upset by letting the guy have his favourite number? Nah!!

I agree. Some people are blinded by the desire to see Michael beaten.

[Valve Bounce]

I agree. Some people are blinded by the desire to see Michael beaten.

Make no mistake - SchM will be beaten. But he will also triumph. I am just so looking forward to this year, we will chat on pino's chat room and I will have my laptop ready, and watch the race live.

The pino chat room gang will have one helluva great time. :)

[driveace]

According to the press,MS, will have number 3 on his car

[ozrevhead]

And so it begins....

[ozrevhead]

If this non-issue is enough to upset Nico, then he is in for one helluva rough ride. :eek:

If anything, Rosberg should regard SchM as a mentor and try to learn as much as possible from him; there is experience to be gained and learn how to avoid certain errors. If Nico can also beat SchM, then well and good. But getting upset by letting the guy have his favourite number? Nah!!
im sorry valve this seems like an non issue well your mistaken

if hes going to be pushed over for somthing small hes not going to have much of a chance when its gets serious

PS Hope you had a great xmas/new year and glad you have a laptop so you can join us :D

[Big Ben]

hmm.. schumacher?? now I remember! he´s that j@ck@$$ I used to love to hate... a fee years have gone by but he´s the same jerk he always was

[SGWilko]

Why do I have this image of stamping feet, tears, loud voices and screaming......

[call_me_andrew]

It's bad luck to be superstitious.

[Saint Devote]

And then there was Alan Jones with his "lucky" and eventually extremely worn red underpants on race day.

Timo Glock kneels down and prays at the side of his car before getting in.

Driver "procedures"!!!

[52Paddy]

Whatever rituals drivers use, I don't mind as long as they're not at the expense of another drivers. In Schumacher's case, there's nothing wrong with having a 'lucky' or favourite number on your race car. And, if Nico does not follow the same superstition, then he does not lose out. Why should there be a problem? Now, if Michael was using his superstition as an excuse to play mind games with Nico and spook him out, then we've a problem. I think Nico should give the number up but pay no heed to its implications. That way he'll keep happy and MS won't be under scrutiny for playing mind games, which he may well not be. We don't know, let's face it.

[Saint Devote]

Whatever rituals drivers use, I don't mind as long as they're not at the expense of another drivers. In Schumacher's case, there's nothing wrong with having a 'lucky' or favourite number on your race car. And, if Nico does not follow the same superstition, then he does not lose out. Why should there be a problem? Now, if Michael was using his superstition as an excuse to play mind games with Nico and spook him out, then we've a problem. I think Nico should give the number up but pay no heed to its implications. That way he'll keep happy and MS won't be under scrutiny for playing mind games, which he may well not be. We don't know, let's face it.

Mind games are part of gamesmanship and drivers have always used them. Schumacher uses them off and on the track [read about Sepang 1999 and how Hakkinen was really at the end of his tether afterwards] - the difference between him and other great drivers is that he is not mean spirited about anything.

Prost used to drive Senna crazy with mind games - and especially so when their feud began.

[CNR]

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[52Paddy]

Mind games are part of gamesmanship and drivers have always used them - the difference between him and other great drivers is that he is not mean spirited about anything.

I agree with that from about 1999 onwards. I think it took him a while to mature but maybe his leg-breaking accident knocked some humility into him or something. Regardless, I've no problem with mind games being used at all. It's a good strategy if you pull it off. But, as you say, if there was huge malice involved (ever read Shakespeare's Othello - the character Iago?) then it may go beyond a strategic move. Nelson Piquet Snr used to give Mansell a shocking hard time in the early-mid 80s and had him at the end of his tether. The stuff I've read Piquet's saying (slagging his wife amongst other things), was beyond acceptable mind games in my opinion. That's bullying. But I'm not saying that Schumi is at that level.

Good to see Rosberg is still happy within the team and hopefully it will be a successful partnership in 2010.

I know for sure if it was a certain Mclaren driver saying these things, the boards would certainly light up and his character would be torn apart. It's refreshing to see the competitive qualities of an F1 driver survive the media spin... :)

And it has nothing to do with Nico being quite a nice lad who has avoided controversy and not done anything unpleasant to report about him?

Whereas the driver you speak of has proven numerous times to have the character traits of a rancid cockroach, making it inevitable that people notice his character is the sort that should be torn apart.

Err thats abit strong... :laugh:
Lewis has lied on one occassion and been involved in an ontrack misjudgment of the rules in Spa. No malice whatsoever in his character on either occassion.

So lying to the stewards, knowing it would rob Trulli unfairly, and no malice involved?

Laughable.

Then there is breaking team protocol at Hungary 2007. Totally malicious behaviour.

Your boy is a specialist in malicious and devious behaviour.

It's what it takes to win, and in that respect I have no problem with it, but don't be in denial of it.

It makes you look quite unpleasant.

[Saint Devote]

I love the cockyness in Nico's interview where he expects to be on equal terms and possibly beating Michael, and I hope he does. I also enjoy the fact that nobody is jumping on Nico's back for showing an element of competitive arrogance in his response. I know for sure if it was a certain Mclaren driver saying these things, the boards would certainly light up and his character would be torn apart. It's refreshing to see the competitive qualities of an F1 driver survive the media spin... :)

Indeed that Mclaren driver WILL be THE target. Why? He is not "chic-kewl". Huh?

He is an English-speaking, white anglo-saxon. As an Israeli and an anglo-saxon - [as people like myself in Israel are described], you are a target in the world for criticism and blame for everything that can go wrong.

To be "tre-chic" you have to be European, non-English-speaking, have long hair and have won absolutely nothing or be anything but white.

I think Lewis is the first British driver that has not been attacked from his own country. Nigel, Damon and Jenson were ALL attacked by the media in England.

[Saint Devote]

And it has nothing to do with Nico being quite a nice lad who has avoided controversy and not done anything unpleasant to report about him?

Whereas the driver you speak of has proven numerous times to have the character traits of a rancid cockroach, making it inevitable that people notice his character is the sort that should be torn apart.

How can you call a driver from the sport you are supposed to love, something like that.

You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

But I can tell you, that that driver, is going to kick your precious Ferrari's arse all the way back to Maranello.

And along with the German "mean machine" is going to show the MOST dishonest team in racing, how they could not have done anything without him and a certain Englishman named Ross Brawn.

Yes, matey, it gets really ugly here pretty quckly.

You can't hold Michael with such high esteem and then turn around and bash a young man who has made similar errors of judgement IMO.


I am not in denial of Schumachers faults.

You are plainly in denial of Hamiltons.



BTW I have never excused Lewis for lying and if you check back in the history, I think you'll find I stuck the boot in as much as the next man. :)

But now you whitewash it, claiming it to have held no malice.

A dirty trick at best.

Yes, matey, it gets really ugly here pretty quckly.

Stop visiting a Hall of Mirrors, that would be my advice.

[Dzeidzei]

It's bad luck to be superstitious.

Who knows how far this goes with MS. Does he stick a sauerkraut in his lederhosen on racedays?

Im sure Nico doesnt qualify for a German in this respect :)

[Saint Devote]

I agree with that from about 1999 onwards. I think it took him a while to mature but maybe his leg-breaking accident knocked some humility into him or something. Regardless, I've no problem with mind games being used at all. It's a good strategy if you pull it off. But, as you say, if there was huge malice involved (ever read Shakespeare's Othello - the character Iago?) then it may go beyond a strategic move. Nelson Piquet Snr used to give Mansell a shocking hard time in the early-mid 80s and had him at the end of his tether. The stuff I've read Piquet's saying (slagging his wife amongst other things), was beyond acceptable mind games in my opinion. That's bullying. But I'm not saying that Schumi is at that level.

Good to see Rosberg is still happy within the team and hopefully it will be a successful partnership in 2010.

I disagree that Nigel was intimidated by Piquet. Quite the contrary which is why Nelson said some really disgusting things publicly about Mansell and might I add Senna.

That aside, I have never viewed Schumi as arrogant, but someone with the strongest self-esteem and great confidence in himself. Aside from Herbert's complaint agsinst him, all his teammates have alwys had good things to say about him including even Piquet.

[Saint Devote]

Did you edit your post Saint? My quote appears to no longer exist.. :p

Come on guys stick to discussing the topic rather than getting petty and personal..

Yes, sorry about that :)

I deleted my post because I wrote it after reading Tamburello's - and with calmer emotion after re-reading, I decided it was inappropriate.

[Saint Devote]

Stop visiting a Hall of Mirrors, that would be my advice.

:D Now THATS an idea!!!

[Saint Devote]

It''l be nice to have Schuey back to take some of the pressure off some of these eager youngsters.. :)

How come in Britain people call him "Schuey"?

His correct nickname is SCHUMI.

[555-04Q2]

I dont think it matters what nickname you use. I have heard the following ones:

"Schumi"
"Schuey"
"The Shoe"
"Shoester"
And once: "Aqua Man" (probably due to his stunning wet weather drivers)

Anyone else heard other ones?

[F1boat]

The Red Baron is the coolest :)

[Mia 01]

Nico has to impress next week, forget numbers on the cars.

For now the most important values in the team is Ross and MS.

Mercedes knows this

[jens]

Rosberg shouldn't care about that as long as he has got an identical car to Schumacher's on the race track.

We might read many things out of those news, but what is most important to me, is that the "good old Michael" with his controversy and "winning at all costs" is back and is offering an interesting build-up to the season. :)

[ArrowsFA1]

Schumacher & Rosberg - the Fangio & Moss of the 21st century!

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/01/schumacher-and-rosberg-echo-fangio-and-moss-at-mercedes/

[F1boat]

Schumacher & Rosberg - the Fangio & Moss of the 21st century!

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/01/schumacher-and-rosberg-echo-fangio-and-moss-at-mercedes/

Great article!

[F1boat]

IMO it will be very natural if Nico supports MS - if MS is faster. :)

[Jag_Warrior]

http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/images/stew17.jpg

Sir Jackie Stewart - 1971 World Champion
Tyrell - 1971 Constructors Championship

Again oops... :D

Good catch! :idea:

[Jag_Warrior]

I don't think there is a correct nickname, as the individual doesn't get a choice in the matter. You'll find in the UK that most nicknames tend to end with a 'y' or an 'i' and Schuey rolls off the tongue alot easier than Schumi. He's had the same nickname as far back as I can remember and comentators alike have always called him Schuey in my experience... :)


Yeah, I can't say that I've ever heard of a "correct nickname". :confused: I've heard some other nicknames for him. But in the interest of keeping the peace here, I won't repeat any of them. :D

[ozrevhead]

I dont think it matters what nickname you use. I have heard the following ones:

"Schumi"
"Schuey"
"The Shoe"
"Shoester"
And once: "Aqua Man" (probably due to his stunning wet weather

Anyone else heard other ones?
They are the only flattering ones ive heard :p

[Valve Bounce]

How come in Britain people call him "Schuey"?

His correct nickname is SCHUMI.

Or TGF in 10-tenths, or SchM when I call him, or quite a few other less flattering names. Who says that there is only one correct nickname for Mike?

But there is only one correct nickname name for that new guy at McLaren: Bunsen

[Dzeidzei]

But there is only one correct nickname name for that new guy at McLaren: Bunsen

So they´re like Starsky and Hutch: Bunsen and Balls.

[DexDexter]

They are the only flattering ones ive heard :p

When Benetton was found to be cheating, Schumacher was called Schummeln-Schumi

Schummeln=cheating

[Valve Bounce]

So they´re like Starsky and Hutch: Bunsen and Balls.

Or BALD & BUNSEN. Now that has a distinctive sound to it - just like an English countryside pub. :p :

[Valve Bounce]

.................or, some here have been suggesting that Hamilton is always driving on the ragged edge, so maybe we can call the McLaren drivers "Bunsen and Edges" :p :

[F1boat]

I dunno, I don't like Bunsen at all. I call him simply Jenson, he has a nice short name, nothing too long. Sometimes Jense.

[Valve Bounce]

I dunno, I don't like Bunsen at all. I call him simply Jenson, he has a nice short name, nothing too long. Sometimes Jense.

Call him what you like - we won't mind.

I call him Bunsen because Murray Walker called him Bunsen, and the name stuck. Basically, it gives the guy a more fiery image. :p :

[F1boat]

Hah, I though that u invented it! :)

[Valve Bounce]

Hah, I though that u invented it! :)

No! this is a legacy of the great and indomitable Murray. I use it as a term of endearment for Bunsen.