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driveace
2nd January 2010, 22:21
rally drivers 001.jpg (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2478&stc=1&d=1262470827)
OK all you guys tell me who this is and where please

wotaguy
3rd January 2010, 13:59
tricky, bill dobie on the manx, or malcolm patrick total guess, ,its got to be the manx thou?

sal
3rd January 2010, 16:35
Looks like it's Mikael Sundstrom. He finished 8th on the 84 Manx in an Ascona i 2000. Shot appears to be exit from Sartfield hairpin.

Steve Boyd
3rd January 2010, 16:55
It certainly looks like the Isle of Man particularly the exit of Sartfield hairpin heading towards Brandywell. My first thought was Anders Kullang/Bruno Berglund, but they ran at 7 in the 1980 International. On closer inspection it isn't a GpB Ascona 400, it looks more like a GpA Ascona i2000. That being the case I'm pretty sure it's Mikael Sundstrom/Voitto Silander who finished 8th overall in 1984 running in car 9.
SAL - you got your answer in while I was looking up results for mine!

sal
3rd January 2010, 20:49
Sorry Steve!

I was there in 84 but dont have any pics of my own of "Micky Finn" in the Ascona but plenty of him in 85 in the 205 T16!

Steve Boyd
4th January 2010, 12:03
Hi SAL

I can't remember whether I was there in 84 or not. I got my answer from the "25 Years of the Manx Rally" book by Doug Baird & Godon Kniveton. I do know that I was there in 85 as I was timekeepeing at the end of SS13 (Maughold) where Tony Pond managed to spin the Rover SD1 in a road that's only about 12 feet wide! The FIA observers were well impressed by the rally phone in the green box at the roadside that we used to contact the stage start to find out what was happening. After we were "stood down" we went to watch on the Round Table/Mines stage (whatever it was called that year) near Ballanass & while we were waiting witnessed the Audi team helicopter's "forced landing" in a field near the Eairy stage where Mouton went off. It was very fortunate to all on board the chopper that the pilot managed to get the thing level before it hit the ground.

Anyway at least we are agreed on the answer to driveace's original question.

driveace
4th January 2010, 22:05
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I think you are probably correct that it is Mikael Sundstrom,pitured here in his Peugeot days

driveace
4th January 2010, 22:20
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Is this the one you meant Steve?file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Barry/My%20Documents/My%20Pictures/RALLY%20and%20RACE%20PHOTOS/Tony%20Pond%20Manx%20Rally/Tony%20Pond%20Manx%20Rally.jpg

Steve Boyd
5th January 2010, 13:16
Hi driveace
That's the sort of Rover I mean. The picture looks like the 1984 Manx where Tony finished 3rd O/A in car number 8. He started from number 12 in 1985, in a very similar car but in "Computervision" livery (if you look at the pictures on rallyretro.com).

wotaguy
23rd February 2010, 13:55
i was watching manx rallies of the 80,s again last night, and i think its andrew wood, cos his ascona had a number 8 on the side.. looks similar anyaway

Steve Boyd
23rd February 2010, 16:39
If you look closely at the original picture you'll see the doorplate shows car 9! The registration plate isn't British or German, which you would expect if it was a British driver in an Opel, so I'm sticking with "Micky Finn".

TWIGLEES
25th February 2010, 16:05
I doubt that's Woody.

MrJan
25th February 2010, 23:04
Bloody 'ell that's a name I haven't seen about in a while, not since I lurked about on britishrallyforum a few years back anyway :D

wotaguy
4th March 2010, 17:25
good my eye site,s crap lol, yeah i see what you mean

COD
17th March 2010, 09:16
It certainly looks like the Isle of Man particularly the exit of Sartfield hairpin heading towards Brandywell. My first thought was Anders Kullang/Bruno Berglund, but they ran at 7 in the 1980 International. On closer inspection it isn't a GpB Ascona 400, it looks more like a GpA Ascona i2000. That being the case I'm pretty sure it's Mikael Sundstrom/Voitto Silander who finished 8th overall in 1984 running in car 9.
SAL - you got your answer in while I was looking up results for mine!

The car has Finnish reg. plates, so must be the late Mikael Sundström (r.i.p)

driveace
17th March 2010, 18:44
Yes it is Mikael,and the photo I posted earlier on this thread shows him leaning on the roof of his Peugeot,in about 85,when he used a 205.
What I have since learned is that Paul White navigated for Mikael in the Peurgeot 205 in 85