European Rally Championship 2010

[Jarek Z]

Here are the sporting regulations for ERC 2010:
http://www.rally-erc.com/article.php?cont=529

Here is the final version of the calendar:
22.-24.04. Rally 1000 Miglia (I)
13.-15.05. 37. Zagreb Delta Rally (CRO)
04.-06.06. Rally Poland (PL)
24.-26.06. Belgium Ypres Westhoek Rally (B) IRC
23.-25.07. Istanbul Rally (TR)
05.-07.08. Rally Vinho da Madeira (P) IRC
27.-29.08. Barum Czech Rally Zlin (CZ) IRC
10.-12.09. Rally Principe de Asturias (E) IRC
01.-03.10. Elpa Rally (GR)
15.-17.10. Rallye d'Antibes Côte d'Azur (F)
28.-30.10. Rallye International du Valais (CH)

And here is the first driver, who confirmed his ERC program. He says he is able to win the championship. I doubt it, but everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Anyway, good luck!
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/betti-peugeotem-w-erc,27590

M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S G U Y S ! ! !

[urabus-denoS2000]

Great to see this thread started

Nice to see Betti is driving

[Sulland]

It is easy to see why very few crews from north europe that drives in the ERC. Most rallies are done in mid, east and south part of the continent - and unfortunately the NEZ cup never took off.

So for the teams from the north, it goes directly from the national scene to WRC. The logical route would be to go via the European championship before going to WRC.

What can be done to achieve that ?

[Gordini]

It is easy to see why very few crews from north europe that drives in the ERC. Most rallies are done in mid, east and south part of the continent - and unfortunately the NEZ cup never took off.

So for the teams from the north, it goes directly from the national scene to WRC. The logical route would be to go via the European championship before going to WRC.

What can be done to achieve that ?

The thread for this discussion is here, important theme though !
http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135976

[Jarek Z]

What can be done to achieve that ?

Reduce the number of events in ERC by removing Istanbul (nobody wants to watch rallies in Turkey anyway) and replace Rallye du Valais with Arctic Rally. Not a good idea?

[HaCo]

Will Tlusťák Antonín do ERC next year?

[Mirek]

Some selected tarmac events.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Honza Černy in Clio R3 in ERC 2010 ;)

[Jarek Z]

Thanks for the news and good luck to the Czech youngster!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Is it going to be a Czech Clio?

[Mirek]

Yes, it's ex-Renault Sport car of Cedric Robert (in 07), ex-Josef Sedláček (Czech 2WD champion 08). In 09 it was driven several times by Jan Sýkora. It might be upgraded to newer specification during the year but for sure not before MC.

[Barreis]

http://www.zagrebdeltarally.com/index.html

[Eyvind]

Rossetti with Abarth in ERC 2010?

[Mirek]

Probably yes

[Jarek Z]

According to http://rallyonline.pl:84/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=26479 this year Abarth will concentrate on Italian championship, but both drivers are planning some foreign rallies as well. Rossetti in ERC and Basso in IRC. Good luck!

[PLuto]

Not so precise translation - original article is here (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=9884). It isnt good to split both drivers to written championships. For both will be primar goal CIR, for Rossetti will be interesting also ERC. But he also can starts on events out of IRC, same with Giandomenico who can be seen also on some ERC events.

[Eyvind]

Any news about Fontana, Solowow and Betti? They will be in the ERC?

[Jarek Z]

Luca Betti announced his program in ERC already in December. According to this piece of news his aim is to win ERC 2010:
http://www.lucabetti.com/ultime/luca-betti-si-prepara-gi-per-il-2010-va-in-archivio-una-stagione-costruttiva-e-positiva.html

I don't know anything about other drivers.

[Jarek Z]

Polish driver Maciej Oleksowicz announced his plans in ERC. At first, he will drive four events - Mille Miglia, Croatia, Poland and Ypres - and then he is going to choose additional four events.
Last year Oleksowicz was driving Peugeot 207 S2000 and was sixth in the Polish championship:
http://rallyonline.pl:84/ft.php?idg=4079&pg_[go]=34
A few weeks ago he bought Ford Fiesta S2000 and he is going to use this car in ERC.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Croatia Rally is most probably cancelled

[PLuto]

We will see on the beginning of next week.

[urabus-denoS2000]

On Monday precisely

[Jarek Z]

Again the same old story. Isn't it third year in a row? I know it may sound harsh, especially for our friends from Balkan countries, but what sense does it make to have this rally in ERC? I'm afraid the same will happen with Elpa Rally as Greek economy is at a terrible state this year...

[urabus-denoS2000]

To put it this way, organizers have a great deal (move the rally out of Zagreb to Rijeka,good sponsors) , if they take it it will be a great rally in my opinion. If they don't , the rally will be cancelled. The problem in my opinion is the organizers are seeking desperately sponsors but still want to "make the rules of the game" , if you know what I mean . They want to keep it in Zagreb while it is obvious how much Zagreb gives a damn about rallying

[Barreis]

Don't say that.. xd

[urabus-denoS2000]

Ma tako je ! :D

The organizers are trying really hard but it's about time people understand that Zagreb doesn't give a damn about rallying

[Barreis]

37th Croatia rally goes on!!! :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Yes, in a new location ;)

[PLuto]

Yes, it is very interesting situation, I am watching it every day, it is like on rollercoaster...

[janez l.]

This story around Croatia Rally is really pathetic and sleazy, first they say the rally is definetely cancelled and a few hour later the rally is back on...

I mean come on, you need to be a complete idiot to fall for this...

[urabus-denoS2000]

janez , it's just a big game from HAKS , so they can be hero's . They knew for 3 months that there would be no money from Zagreb but they waited for 3 months so that we can say "Oh how nice , they saved the rally"


Anyway the rally is on ;)

[Barreis]

Big ON.. :)

[tolis]

So, do we know Cerny's programme in ERC??? I hope to see him in Elpa rally, with more luck this year!!!

[PLuto]

So, do we know Cerny's programme in ERC??? I hope to see him in Elpa rally, with more luck this year!!!

I dont believe actually in his start in Elpa - it is one week after his home event Rally Pribram. But we will see...

[dj_masch_hr]

This story around Croatia Rally is really pathetic and sleazy, first they say the rally is definetely cancelled and a few hour later the rally is back on...

I mean come on, you need to be a complete idiot to fall for this...

it's just a game they play every year... read theese articles and you'll know who stands behind the whole deal:

http://www.automototrend.com.hr/vijest-2490.htm

http://www.automototrend.com.hr/vijest-2493.htm

[Jarek Z]

Just two months before the event organizers are changing the location of the rally. They must be either insane or totally irresponsible...

[Mirek]

Or they change it only on paper and their preparations are already under way in new location? Just thinking loud...

[Rallye_106]

]Or they change it only on paper and their preparations are already under way in new location? Just thinking loud...

Good thinking. :up:

[Jarek Z]

]Or they change it only on paper and their preparations are already under way in new location? Just thinking loud...

Which means they are both irresponsible and insane :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

The preparations are under way for 3 months already ;)

[Jarek Z]

The preparations are under way for 3 months already ;)

Even though the rally was caneled just 2 days ago? ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

As said , it's very complicated to explain it here. I know that the money was secure for 3 months in the moving location case. This cancellation thing is a game to make HAKS look like saviours. It sounds like a soap opera , but it really is that way.

[Barreis]

The only important thing is that rally goes on in this hard times..

[Jarek Z]

Yes, that's the only thing that matters at the end of the day.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I can just say , that Croatia Rally might be preety interesting ... ;)

[Barreis]

http://www.croatiarally.eu/

[Eyvind]

According to italian forum, Corrado Fontana will be in ERC with 207 Grifone, same as last year. ;)

[Barreis]

Mr Tabaton told that somewhere..

[Jarek Z]

Corrado Fontana confirmed his participation in ERC 2010:
http://www.corradofontana.it/static/html/mdl_newsletter/pages/tmplcorrado3.20100326120506/?languageID=ita

He will drive Peugeot 207 S2000 with a new co-driver - the famous Nicola Arena! :)

http://www.corradofontana.it/static/img/page_207/img207_01BIG.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Guys, do you know if it is true that this year FIA changed points scoring system in ERC? According to Fontana's website first 10 drivers will score points and not first 8, as it used to be last year. Anybody knows details about the new points system?

[harriswrc]

10 drivers registered at ERC until now.
http://www.rally-erc.com/pdf/ERC_Entry_List.pdf

That's not bad!

Also, as mentioned at Fontana's site, the point's system has changed.
http://www.rally-erc.com/pdf/Rallye_%20CMSA.pdf

[Jarek Z]

Is it really not bad?

[Jarek Z]

Oleksowicz's new car:
http://www.oleksowicz.pl/menu/car.html

[PJRevs]

And where is Betti? He was first to publish news about participating in ERC.
Also list is without Rosseti and no one from Bulgaria. But there is more time until end of may.

[Boris Ivanov]

I think there will be no bulgarian drivers, who will compete in ERC this year :( .
All of the top drivers will drive in our national championship, except Todor Slavov. He' ll drive some rounds in WRC - Rally of Turkey, Vodafone Rally de Portugal, Rally Bulgaria, ADAC Rally Deutschland, Rally de France and RACC Rally de Espana.

[Mirek]

Rossetti will most probably do only Mille Miglia and Rajd Polski from ERC. Both as national championship competitor.

[harriswrc]

Is it really not bad?
If we add Betti and Solowow (I think both will be there) the list is better than last year and the drivers are more or less in the same level.
Βasic requirement is to participate eventually all these drivers at the championship.

[Mirek]

I think that Solowow won't participate.

[PLuto]

Actually 14 crews registered to ERC (http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10197)

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_7e8c3f69265dfce26f386073f48066b9.jpg

[RS]

Any updates on how many rounds we can see Basso and Rossetti on?

[PLuto]

It is too early to answers this question...

[Madeira]

It is too early to answers this question...So My bet is that for Basso, Madeira could be one of their options at least... ;)

[Jarek Z]

And where is Betti? He was first to publish news about participating in ERC.


Luca Betti has just sent his entry too. There are currently 15 drivers registered in ERC. The full list is here:
http://www.rally-erc.com/pdf/ERC_Entry_List.pdf

[PLuto]

And after weekend there should be another name added...

[tolis]

And after weekend there should be another name added...
From Italy again???? :p

[PLuto]

From Italy again???? :p

For sure not from Greece :(

[Raven]

PLuto, Kopecky entered ERC only to receive top starting number in Mille Miglia or he plans to do the whole ERC season?

[Mirek]

He needs 5 starts to be classified. There are 4 ERC events in his program so I think that he will choose one more. He should start in Mille Miglia, Ypres, Madeira and Barum anyway.

[PLuto]

PLuto, Kopecky entered ERC only to receive top starting number in Mille Miglia or he plans to do the whole ERC season?

Kopecky was thinking about ERC before his programme in Italy...

[Madeira]

]He needs 5 starts to be classified. There are 4 ERC events in his program so I think that he will choose one more. He should start in Mille Miglia, Ypres, Madeira and Barum anyway.

Good news indeed!!

PS: Raven are you planning to come once again?. D Pedro Hotel was not destroyed by the storm :)

[Raven]

Good news indeed!!

PS: Raven are you planning to come once again?. D Pedro Hotel was not destroyed by the storm :)
Budget problems ;)

I think it's now Your turn - make a visit in Poland :)

[RICARDO75]

Does anyone knows what cars the other drivers will drive and if those are correct?

Antonin Tlustak - SKODA FABIA S2000
Jan Cerny - ?
Roman Odlozilik - SKODA FABIA S2000
Martin Vasko - ?
Elwis Chentre - ?
Marco Caviglioli - ?
Maciej Oleksowicz - FORD FIESTA S2000
Matteo Gamba - RENAULT CLIO R3 ?
Gaby Goudezeune - VW POLO S2000
Corrado Fontana - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Alessandro Perico - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Luigi Fontana - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Luca Rossetti - FIAT PUNTO ABARTH S2000
Giandomenico - Basso FIAT PUNTO ABARTH S2000
Luca Betti - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Eddie Sciessere - ?
Jan Kopecky - SKODA FABIA S2000
Mathieu Biasion - ?
Michal Solowow - FORD FIESTA S2000

[urabus-denoS2000]

Solowow will not drive ERC

Where did you read about Luigi Fontana and Perico?

Cerny will drive a Clio R3

[Raven]

Solowow will not drive ERC
Are you 100% sure? He was just registered for ERC.



Where did you read about Luigi Fontana and Perico?
Check http://www.rally-erc.com
Some of the drivers are on the list only to receive a top starting number in ERC rallies in their countries.

[urabus-denoS2000]

OK I have been out for some time ;)

[Mirek]

Does anyone knows what cars the other drivers will drive and if those are correct?

Antonin Tlustak - SKODA FABIA S2000
Jan Cerny - ?
Roman Odlozilik - SKODA FABIA S2000
Martin Vasko - ?
Elwis Chentre - ?
Marco Caviglioli - ?
Maciej Oleksowicz - FORD FIESTA S2000
Matteo Gamba - RENAULT CLIO R3 ?
Gaby Goudezeune - VW POLO S2000
Corrado Fontana - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Alessandro Perico - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Luigi Fontana - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Luca Rossetti - FIAT PUNTO ABARTH S2000
Giandomenico - Basso FIAT PUNTO ABARTH S2000
Luca Betti - PEUGEOT 207 S2000
Eddie Sciessere - ?
Jan Kopecky - SKODA FABIA S2000
Mathieu Biasion - ?
Michal Solowow - FORD FIESTA S2000

Černý - Clio R3
Vaško - Civic VTI
Chentre - 207 S2000
Cavigioli - probably Punto S2000
Gamba - Clio R3
Sciessere - Fiesta S2000
Biasion - Clio R3

[Raven]

But we still don't know how many of them are really interested in ERC...

[Mirek]

Yes, of course. I'm just answering a question ;)

[HaCo]

Very nice for now :)

Hope we will see a lot of drivers in Ypres!

[Madeira]

Budget problems ;)

I think it's now Your turn - make a visit in Poland :)

yeah!! I'm sure it would be great if I go but my budget is pointing for Rally Portugal or Açores... ;)

[RICARDO75]

Solowow will not drive ERC

Where did you read about Luigi Fontana and Perico?

Cerny will drive a Clio R3

Updated list of ERC 2010registered drivers:

http://www.rally-erc.com/page.php?cont=34

[RICARDO75]

]Černý - Clio R3
Vaško - Civic VTI
Chentre - 207 S2000
Cavigioli - probably Punto S2000
Gamba - Clio R3
Sciessere - Fiesta S2000
Biasion - Clio R3

Thanks Mirek

[Jarek Z]

]Sciessere - Fiesta S2000

Who is this Sciessere? Has anybody ever heard of him?

[PLuto]

Yes, I have heard of him :)

[Jarek Z]

PLuto, you are just like Vladimir Putin on his television debate with Russian citizens. You only answer those questions that you like ;) What about my first question? :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

I think Eddy Sciessere finished a great 3rd overall on a recent rally ronde in a Clio R3 , in a respectable WRC and S2000 competition

[PLuto]

PLuto, you are just like Vladimir Putin on his television debate with Russian citizens. You only answer those questions that you like ;) What about my first question? :)

Ok, Eddie Sciessere is rally driver :rolleyes:

[PLuto]

If you really want to know anything about Sciessere - he cames from Ice Trophy, he was starting with lot of grN cars, S1600, R3, WRC but never in S2000. Here is his onboard from last year Ronde with Clio R3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPEHAK-pMno), here is video from his victory on Rally Ronde Dolomiti with Xsara WRC (http://www.rallyracing.it/galleria-video/rally/4-rally-ronde-dolomiti-bellunesi-2009-the-show.html), and results from same event (http://www.cronocortina.altervista.org/CIUA199.HTM)

[urabus-denoS2000]

3rd overall on Ronde del Soave e del Durello

Results

http://www.cronocarservice.eu/pages/archivio/rondesoavedurello10/GENM.htm

[Jarek Z]

Thanks for your information guys! I was surprised that there is a driver who entered ERC and I don't know anything about him ;)

PLuto - see you in Brescia! Is Italian beer any good? :D

[Raven]

PLuto - see you in Brescia! Is Italian beer any good? :D
I tried one, was rather... average.

[PLuto]

Thanks for your information guys! I was surprised that there is a driver who entered ERC and I don't know anything about him ;)

PLuto - see you in Brescia! Is Italian beer any good? :D

Come to visit us, I will offer you czech beer ;)

[PLuto]

Actually 21 entries into ERC - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=10273

[Jarek Z]

Who is this Travaglia? Has anybody ever heard of him? :D

[Jarek Z]

Come to visit us, I will offer you czech beer ;)

Czech beer in Italy. Doesn't it sound like a dream? ;)

Too bad I can't bring any Polish beer. I'm afraid it is not allowed onboard Wizzair planes :(

[urabus-denoS2000]

Who is this Travaglia? Has anybody ever heard of him? :D


Hmm I think I heard of him ... He's a gentleman driver , has been driving for a long time ;)

[Raven]

Looks like Rossetti together with Procar will compete in ERC, so maybe we know the champion, but because of hard times (crisis) nothing is sure.
There were rumours before the season that Rossetti will also compete in polish championship, so maybe next round (Rally Poland) is also very probable?

[Barreis]

Who is this Travaglia? Has anybody ever heard of him? :D

First time I saw him live was at 2001 Bettega memorial.. :)

[Jarek Z]

A new driver sent his entry to the European Championship. It's a driver from Bulgaria called Petar Gyoshev.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gyoshev2.JPG

[Mirek]

I thought he would start only in Croatia and Barum but maybe I'm wrong.

[Jarek Z]

Why does he waste money for ERC registration then?

[tolis]

Why does he waste money for ERC registration then?
It seems though that by registering, he'll compete in more than 2 ERC rallies.

[PLuto]

Maybe also Poland, maybe also other events... We will see.

[tolis]

Dimitar Iliev became the 23rd who sent his entry to the European Championship.

[wwbroe]

Whan you have a look at resultspage from Crotia, it looks like Pluto has made new design of resultspage. It looks realy very good for me. All necessary information is mentioned on this one page. :) Great work.

[CricketsFilm]

OnLine HD Video Reportage of 37. Croatia Rally 2010, FIA European Rally Championship - Round 2, on:
http://cricketsfilm.com/ "Croatia Rally Channel TV"
http://www.cricketsfilm.com/ "FIA European Rally Championship Channel TV"
and "Live" to http://www.cricketsfilm.com/live.html

[Jarek Z]

Three Polish drivers announced their plans to compete in selected ERC rounds in the coming months:

Kajetan "Kajto" Kajetanowicz (Subaru Impreza) - Poland, Ypres and Barum
Michal Solowow (Ford Fiesta S2000) - Poland and Ypres
Szymon Ruta (Peugeot 207 S2000) - Poland, Istanbul, Elpa, Antibes

[tolis]

Only 2 ERC events for Solowow??? :confused:

[Jarek Z]

Gaby Goudezeune will most probably cancel his ERC program for this year. He had a serious accident during test sessions in VW Polo S2000 from Rene Georges team. Belgian driver broke his leg and will need a few months to recover. Not a good time for Rene Georges team recently.

[Jarek Z]

Only 2 ERC events for Solowow??? :confused:

Not necessarily. He may drive more events, but he doesn't know which ones yet.

[tolis]

Thank you Jarek!!! I hope to see him again this year in Elpa Rally!!!

[wwbroe]

Gaby Goudezeune will most probably cancel his ERC program for this year. He had a serious accident during test sessions in VW Polo S2000 from Rene Georges team. Belgian driver broke his leg and will need a few months to recover. Not a good time for Rene Georges team recently.

It is true that Goudezeune had an accident during test of Polo. But i have to say to you that this car not longer belong to RGRS but to Goudezeune himself. He bought that car from RGRS and is also not longer financially involved in RGRS, so this has nothing to do with RGRS.
Gaby broke his foot and is supposed to recover during about three months, so his program in ERC will most probably be cancelled.
Bad luck for him and also for us as spectators, because this means surely no Polo S2000 in Ypres or Barum. :(

[Jarek Z]

Thanks for clarification! It's a pity for Gaby. I remember him as a very spectacular driver in the nineties!

[tolis]

Final list of 2010 ERC registered drivers: http://www.rally-erc.com/pdf/ERC_Entry_List.pdf

[harriswrc]

Some questions about ERC standings as they appear on the rally-erc site

http://www.rally-erc.com/standings.php

Why Matteo Gamba didn't take points for the 1st day of Ypres Rally, as he finished 5th (1st 2wd) ?

Also, why Betti didn't take points for the 1st day of Rally of Poland, as he also finished 5th?

Did anybody know the reason, or it is a mistake?

[RICARDO75]

They must finish the rally to get points.

http://www.rally-erc.com/page.php?cont=534