This is not possible

[CaptainRaiden]

So, I saw this song on TV, absolute utter crap, some B grade lyrics with bimbos shakin it. The death of poetry and lyrics which don't make any sense (1, 2, 3, 4, uno, dos, trei, quattro, I know you want me, you know I wantcha) :eek:

So, I thought oh well, this is gonna fail miserably.

But surprise, surprise! This was one of the most popular songs of 2009, and number two on Billboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2tMV96xULk

Whatever happened to music? :(

[harsha]

the song ain't half bad :cheese:

*runs*

trust me i've heard worse :D

[ShiftingGears]

It's pretty rancid. Although the Pussycat Dolls are much, much worse. No talent whatsoever, and even harder to listen to.

[MrJan]

The worst one for me at the minute is Black Eyed Peas, the one with the genius lyrics;

Fill up my cup (Drink)
Mazel tov (l'chaim)
Look at her dancing (Move it Move it)
Just take it off

[cosmicpanda]

Whatever happened to music? :(

Personally, I think Beethoven is the root of the problem.

Beethoven was the first Romantic in our understanding of the word today. Before then, music wasn't so much about the tortured composer but had more an emphasis on charm and sociability. Well, that's a generalisation. But people we consider great, if old and a tad obscure composers today - Handel and Mozart, for instance, and even Sweelinck - performed in public. Handel, at least, drew large crowds - I can't quite remember offhand about Mozart and Sweelinck, though I know Sweelinck was employed to entertain the public in addition to his job as church organist.

Beethoven, on the other hand, started being all emo and a law unto himself - see the Pathetique, for example ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL0u9QXNvEg ) and contrast it to, say, Est-ce mars by Sweelinck, which is a set of variations on a folk song of the day ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeYILC6RhdA&feature=related ).

Now, the trouble is that people like Wagner and Liszt liked this, and started following the example of the music being more about the tortured imaginings of the composer rather than on what their audiences wanted to listen to. And yet audiences liked it, at least for a while. They started to get turned off when the likes of Schoenberg came along and turned contemporary classical music into a minority interest sport practiced only by those who enjoy punishing themselves slightly or a lot, depending on the work and the composer. John Cage and Buddy Holly lived in a similar time period. Who's the more popular? Who's music has the more universal appeal - the composer of 4'33", or the singer of Rave On?


Yeah, I've got an exam on music history this weekend. But perhaps that wasn't the answer you wanted? I think possibly you're taking offense at music not aimed at a person of your sensibilities. There would seem to be a great deal of people who don't want music written with variety and depth, nor lyrics that mean a great deal, as long as it's easy to dance to and good-looking people sing it or at least lip-sync.

[harsha]

I would say the day that never comes by metallica ( the new album had pretty meaningless lyrics )

you pull away.he hits the flesh,you hit the ground :D

that and the grindcore / deathcore metal bands that seem to be a dime a dozen nowadays

ever heard of a song length of 1 seconds...check Napalm Death

[Wade91]

i've probably heard that song a million times, its not one of my favorites of the year, but the video is pretty good

[anthonyvop]

So, I saw this song on TV, absolute utter crap, some B grade lyrics with bimbos shakin it. The death of poetry and lyrics which don't make any sense (1, 2, 3, 4, uno, dos, trei, quattro, I know you want me, you know I wantcha) :eek:

So, I thought oh well, this is gonna fail miserably.

But surprise, surprise! This was one of the most popular songs of 2009, and number two on Billboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2tMV96xULk

Whatever happened to music? :(

PitBull's best work was this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2N7POlWaEE

[raikk]

It's a club song It's meant to be simple and catchy...

[CaptainRaiden]

It's a club song It's meant to be simple and catchy...

http://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/captainobvious.jpg :p

P.S: How's the karting going on?


The worst one for me at the minute is Black Eyed Peas, the one with the genius lyrics;

Fill up my cup (Drink)
Mazel tov (l'chaim)
Look at her dancing (Move it Move it)
Just take it off

I think this beats that:

Mami got an a$$ like a donkey, with a monkey,
look like King Kong, welcome to the crib,
305 thats what it is, where the woman down are the s*** .
They dont play games, they up the chain, and they love to do everythang and anythang, hit tha thang and they love it gettin' it in, gettin' on,
all night long

[Brown, Jon Brow]

If I hear JLS on the radio again I may throw the radio or myself out of the window to end it.

Thankfully I get to see a classically trained rock musician on Thursday to bring me back to sanity.

[anthonyvop]

classically trained rock musician

Isn't that mutually exclusive?

[harsha]

Isn't that mutually exclusive?

not really,take Yngwie Malmsteen for instance...he uses a lot of classical inflences in his guitar work

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Isn't that mutually exclusive?

Why can't you be a classically trained musician and play in a rock band?

The chap I am seeing uses many quotes from Rachmaninov, Chopin and Tchaikovsky in his music.


not really,take Yngwie Malmsteen for instance...he uses a lot of classical inflences in his guitar work

He does, so did Jimmy Page. (I really don't like Malmsteen though)

[driveace]

Well looks like there is NO reprieve for the guy who carried out the Washington massacre shootings from the boot of the car in 2002
Leathal Injection SOON .what do you think?

[CaptainRaiden]

He does, so did Jimmy Page. (I really don't like Malmsteen though)

I don't really have a problem with Malmsteen, but I do prefer Satriani over him and Steve Vai.

[anthonyvop]

I don't really have a problem with Malmsteen, but I do prefer Satriani over him and Steve Vai.

Ugh!!! poser stadium power pop.

[Valve Bounce]

So, I saw this song on TV, absolute utter crap, some B grade lyrics with bimbos shakin it. The death of poetry and lyrics which don't make any sense (1, 2, 3, 4, uno, dos, trei, quattro, I know you want me, you know I wantcha) :eek:

So, I thought oh well, this is gonna fail miserably.

But surprise, surprise! This was one of the most popular songs of 2009, and number two on Billboard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2tMV96xULk

Whatever happened to music? :(

Buddy!! we've grown old. You and I probably still go for Elvis. :p :

[harsha]

Why can't you be a classically trained musician and play in a rock band?

The chap I am seeing uses many quotes from Rachmaninov, Chopin and Tchaikovsky in his music.



He does, so did Jimmy Page. (I really don't like Malmsteen though)

definetly,I don't like Malmsteen either...maybe I should have mentioned Jason Becker :p :

[ShiftingGears]

I don't really have a problem with Malmsteen, but I do prefer Satriani over him and Steve Vai.

I prefer Malmsteen over both. Even though he has released the same album over and over for 25 years.

[CaptainRaiden]

Ugh!!! poser stadium power pop.

I'll gladly take this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4fPv450OYM ANY day over the mami a$$ donkey, monkey king kong $hit. ;)


I prefer Malmsteen over both. Even though he has released the same album over and over for 25 years.

I think Satriani is more technical than those two, although a bit slower, but more melodic. And I find Malmsteen and Vai to be bit of show-offs. :D

[leopard]

Malmsteen is fine, but Satriani has the pitch varied more. As for instrumentalist you may need to give Kitaro and Enigma a try...

[harsha]

hey,if we are talking about guitar players

give this guy a go,pretty sure people will like him...no he's not like Malmsteen

Warren Mendonsa (X-cutioner should know him)

http://www.blackstratblues.com

it's a free download offered by him...check it out

[anthonyvop]

Satriani, Vai and malmsten or all technique wise great ax players but I find their music sterile and without soul. Almost robotic.
Also their music is tired and dated. if i want to listen to 1070's stadium rock I will play some Led Zep or Jeff Beck.

[harsha]

Satriani, Vai and malmsten or all technique wise great ax players but I find their music sterile and without soul. Almost robotic.
Also their music is tired and dated. if i want to listen to 1070's stadium rock I will play some Led Zep or Jeff Beck.

funny you should mention Beck as the guy who i've posted above is a huge Beck fan and there are a lot of his influences in the music

[raikk]

http://healthhabits.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/captainobvious.jpg :p

P.S: How's the karting going on?



I think this beats that:

Mami got an a$$ like a donkey, with a monkey,
look like King Kong, welcome to the crib,
305 thats what it is, where the woman down are the s*** .
They dont play games, they up the chain, and they love to do everythang and anythang, hit tha thang and they love it gettin' it in, gettin' on,
all night long

:laugh: karting went well this year. PM me for more details ;)

[CaptainRaiden]

hey,if we are talking about guitar players

give this guy a go,pretty sure people will like him...no he's not like Malmsteen

Warren Mendonsa (X-cutioner should know him)

http://www.blackstratblues.com

it's a free download offered by him...check it out

He is very good. I think I saw him play live in Mumbai once, back in 04' I believe when he was the guitarist for Zero, did a pretty good job. Dunno what's up with them now.

[harsha]

Warren's in NZ right now I think.....dunno if he's playing anything there

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Satriani, Vai and malmsten or all technique wise great ax players but I find their music sterile and without soul. Almost robotic.
Also their music is tired and dated. if i want to listen to 1070's stadium rock I will play some Led Zep or Jeff Beck.

:up:

Absolutely correct.

Satriani, Malmsteen, Vai etc are just guitar geeks.