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CNR
3rd November 2009, 05:27
Team usa



Peter David Windsor (born April 11, 1952 in Reigate, Surrey,England (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/England))[1] (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/#cite_note-wiki-0) is a Formula One (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Formula_One) journalist (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Journalist) and reporter (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Reporter). He was brought up inAustralia (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Australia), but now has residences both in London and Sydney. Windsor started his journalism career at the now defunct monthly magazine, Competition Car. He was the motorsport editor for the British weekly magazine Autocar in the late 1970s until 1985, lauded for his Grand Prix reports.
In 1985 Windsor became sponsorship manager at Williams (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/WilliamsF1). He then worked as general manager at Ferrari (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Scuderia_Ferrari), only to return to Williams as team manager in 1991. Windsor has won five awards for his writing, and most of his early television work has taken place with networks of Rupert Murdoch (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch)'s News Corporation (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/News_Corporation). From 1998 to 2000, Windsor was the on-location reporter for FSN (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/FSN_(Fox_Sports_Net))'s Formula 1 coverage. He then joined Sky Sports (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/Sky_Sports) as a pit reporter on their F1 Digital + (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/F1_Digital_%2B) package. He also worked as a pit reporter for the American Broadcasting Company (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/American_Broadcasting_Company)'s coverage of the 2002 United States Grand Prix (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/2002_United_States_Grand_Prix). He also returned to WilliamsF1 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/wiki/WilliamsF1) as the narrator of the museum in the team's

airshifter
3rd November 2009, 05:32
So he's a sell out for not being in the UK or Austalia? My guess is that he's probably looking into tapping the US potential for sponsorship by having a US based team.

Combined with the state of the art carbon fiber in his location, and having US based brake companies.... seems like he's just taking a different route to the same end result.

Mark
3rd November 2009, 08:52
What is the point of this thread? :confused:

I am evil Homer
3rd November 2009, 09:50
I'm really failing to see the point of this thread. Rich man owns more than one property abroad. And?

BeansBeansBeans
3rd November 2009, 10:14
I'm really failing to see the point of this thread. Rich man owns more than one property abroad. And?

I think the OP's point is that Windsor is English, lives between England and Australia, yet fronts a team called US GP. I don't see a problem personally.

I am evil Homer
3rd November 2009, 10:30
It's just a name...the team's based in US and there's no other US-based F1 team so USF1 seems like a logical name. Shame the OP couldn't even get the team name right he's so angry :D it's not "team USA".....

Mark
3rd November 2009, 10:34
Yeah, and Italy's 'national' team had a German has it's main driver, an Englishman as it's team boss and a Frenchman as the team principle.

I do hear that USF1 aren't necessarily going to have American drivers either. Plus the cars will actually be put together, if not designed and fabricated, in the UK.

CNR
3rd November 2009, 10:36
they will not have any us driver next year

U.S. F1 team will use the Motorland Aragon circuit in northern Spain as their European base when they make their Formula One debut next season

The facility, near the town of Alcaniz, will be the team's European testing, racecar development and logistics headquarters.


"i forgot that you do not have to put up with him before the race"

Mark
3rd November 2009, 10:39
Does beg the question then since they are based in Spain, have a British team boss and are not employing American drivers, why they did call themselves USF1?!

Hondo
3rd November 2009, 12:35
Does beg the question then since they are based in Spain, have a British team boss and are not employing American drivers, why they did call themselves USF1?!

Because they are looking for Chinese sponsorship money?

I am evil Homer
3rd November 2009, 13:00
Does beg the question then since they are based in Spain, have a British team boss and are not employing American drivers, why they did call themselves USF1?!

"european base" is Spain - factory is in the US - they've split it to avoid paying over the odds to ship cars and parts to the European circuits from the US.

maximilian
3rd November 2009, 13:14
USF1 will still be more American than Force India is Indian! :D
And Red Bull isn't particularly Austrian, either, while we are at it ;)

Mark
3rd November 2009, 13:18
"european base" is Spain -

Without checking, presumably Barcelona? It's fairly central for the European season and of course very handy for the circuit de catalunya for what limited testing they can do.

anthonyvop
3rd November 2009, 13:30
Does beg the question then since they are based in Spain, have a British team boss and are not employing American drivers, why they did call themselves USF1?!
Windsor isn't the team boss. Ken Anderson is the boss and he is American.

veeten
3rd November 2009, 13:34
No, Motorland Aragon complex in Alcatriz, Teruel, Spain.

The circuit was designed by Hermann Tilke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_del_Motor_de_Arag%C3%B3n

Ent
3rd November 2009, 13:54
...and are not employing American drivers...

From what Windsor said on TV the other night, apparently there are no American drivers currently available who have a superlicense, so they are unable to use an American driver next year.

Shifter
3rd November 2009, 14:25
Sad to say, there's also no US-Americans as of now that deserve an F1 ride. Perhaps Summerton will prove to be deserving in 2 years or so.

Koz
3rd November 2009, 14:30
From what Windsor said on TV the other night, apparently there are no American drivers currently available who have a superlicense, so they are unable to use an American driver next year.

Can't they jump this getting the driver to do a certain km in testing? During the off season?

ClarkFan
3rd November 2009, 16:48
Because they are looking for Chinese sponsorship money?
Just like everyone else in the US, including the US Treasury...... :\

More seriously, even if they don't employ an American driver in F1 (as others have stated none are ready now), I'd like to seem them sponsor someone like Summerton in a series like GP2.

ClarkFan

ioan
3rd November 2009, 18:34
What is the point of this thread? :confused:

Not sure about it.

ioan
3rd November 2009, 18:37
Can't they jump this getting the driver to do a certain km in testing? During the off season?

They sure can, but than there is no American driver good enough for F1 and USF1 just came up with an excuse that doesn't sound as bad as the situation really is.

truefan72
4th November 2009, 01:05
what's the point of this thread?

aryan
4th November 2009, 01:31
what's the point of this thread?

Nothing. I think some people just live in the '50s.

The world has moved on. So should you thunderbolt. It doesn't make an iota of difference what a person's citizenship is, or which school they went to in which suburb. It helps a lot not to look at everything through a nationalist prism. People are people, and they are all valued, important and equal. No matter what one's passport says.

nigelred5
4th November 2009, 13:01
Without checking, presumably Barcelona? It's fairly central for the European season and of course very handy for the circuit de catalunya for what limited testing they can do.


Not Barcelona, but the weather in central Spain is a right bit better than in England most of the year.

nigelred5
4th November 2009, 13:03
Windsor isn't the team boss. Ken Anderson is the boss and he is American.

bingo. Windsor is the face of the team that has the ties to the whole Marketing/sponsorship side of the equation. Ken Anderson is the racing brain. I predict they will do no worse than any of the new teams.

Mark
4th November 2009, 14:51
Not Barcelona, but the weather in central Spain is a right bit better than in England most of the year.

Yep, which is why teams usually go to the Circuit de Catalunya rather than Silverstone!

DexDexter
4th November 2009, 15:12
bingo. Windsor is the face of the team that has the ties to the whole Marketing/sponsorship side of the equation. Ken Anderson is the racing brain. I predict they will do no worse than any of the new teams.

If Anderson is in charge of the car design, your prediction will prove to be right. His resume as a designer isn't that impressive.

F1boat
4th November 2009, 19:03
Sad to say, there's also no US-Americans as of now that deserve an F1 ride. Perhaps Summerton will prove to be deserving in 2 years or so.

I heard that they want Kyle Bush in 2011?

JSH
4th November 2009, 19:31
They sure can, but than there is no American driver good enough for F1 and USF1 just came up with an excuse that doesn't sound as bad as the situation really is.

The trick is to lure the talented to road racing instead of the glittering bright lights of oval racing....

If they can do that, there's no reason why a country with a population over 250 million can't produce a decent F1 driver.

F1boat
4th November 2009, 19:52
The trick is to lure the talented to road racing instead of the glittering bright lights of oval racing....

If they can do that, there's no reason why a country with a population over 250 million can't produce a decent F1 driver.

It won't be easy as US open wheel racing is in crisis. Why should a young kid risk everything for an F1 place, which most likely will turn into pay-to-Indy drive when NASCAR awaits? Catch 22 situation.