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bluuford
26th October 2009, 13:18
Well I just noticed that season 2009 is now over, Loeb took the last rally win while Mikko took the last stage win of the decade... And we still dont have any proper threads concerning 2010 season. I will make short conclusions what I have read and heard.

WRC
Official:
Citroen Team
1. S.Loeb
2. D.Sordo
Ford Team:
3. M.Hirvonen
4. J.M.Latvala

Not sure:
Stobbart:
5. M.Wilson (His daddy has a plan for sure).
6. H.Solberg (Hopes to be back, with Ford? dont know).

Citroen junior:
7. S.Ogier (I think that Citroen wants him for the future)
8. C.Rautenbach??? (Dont know the current balance of his daddy's bank balance).
9. G.Galli (rumours, but not very likely I think).

Ford Monster.
10. C. Atkinson (little bit likely)
11. K. Block (little bit likely)

Munchis:
12. F. Villagra (wants to be back, somehow I believe it is quite likely).

Lonely hunter:
13. P. Solberg (there is so much crap moving around him that you cannot believe anything before you can see him in Swedish Entry list).

Others with WRC:
14. Ostberg with his Subaru
15. Ketomaa with him? or Nikkara? strange rumors

a few rounds:
16. V.Rossi (Mexico with Focus WRC)
17 K.A. Qassimi (With Ford official team)
18. P. Bird (Wanted to do more rounds, plenty of money)
19. U. Aava (do not know anything about him, but there is always possibility that his sponsors find some money)

I would recommend:
1. E.Novikov to Ford-He has the speed and it is right time to take him over from Citroen. And who cares about destroyed Focus WRC-s, they are not allowed from year 2011 anyway:-P

Super 2000 cup (there is separate thread for this):
1. Pons (quite sure)
2. Novikov (Less resources needed)
3. Mikkelsen (depends on the offers)
4. Brynidlsen (just my guess)
5. Araujo (It was his dream for next year)
6. P.G. Andersson (some rumors related to Solberg team)

Pirelli Star Drivers (There is thread for this)
PWRC and JWRC (There will be thread for this).

So, lets just add certain teams and confirmations here to keep better overview.
PS! You can always open new thread for Solberg World :-)

Tomi
26th October 2009, 13:27
Garde maybe in s2000 cup.

Leon
26th October 2009, 13:30
I have the impression that Abu Dhabi sponsorship was for 3 years 2007-2009. anybody knows?

Mirek
26th October 2009, 13:32
Prokop also maybe S2000 Cup.

bluuford
26th October 2009, 13:36
I have the impression that Abu Dhabi sponsorship was for 3 years 2007-2009. anybody knows?
I read somewhere that it is title sponsor from 2008 to 2012

serial jeff
26th October 2009, 13:54
Personally I wouldn't mind if Novikov isn't driving a world rally car next year. Quite honestly I don't think he's ready for it- he'd be better off competing in the JWRC/PWRC and getting decent results there before moving up to the WRC.

Hopefully the Monster team with Chris comes through. It'd be good for Chris to get a drive, and maybe if he's good enough he could be a replacement for JML. Seriously, with his performance throughout his entire career so far, Ford has no chance of winning the manufacturer's championship with him as the second driver. I like him so hopefully he'll improve... but so far, he has been too unreliable. Sure, occasionally he's fast, but more often than not he crashes or is too slow to challenge Dani for 3rd.

bluuford
27th October 2009, 08:09
Araujo and Flodin drew attention before Rally GB to the fact that S2000 should not be allowed to PWRC because the cost and the performance of the car is so different and there is S2000 cup from 2010. So, it might influence current S2000 car drivers to choose S2000cup instead of PWRC :-)

Roy
27th October 2009, 08:46
Well I just noticed that season 2009 is now over, Loeb took the last rally win while Mikko took the last stage win of the decade... And we still dont have any proper threads concerning 2010 season. I will make short conclusions what I have read and heard.

WRC
Official:
Citroen Team
1. S.Loeb
2. D.Sordo
Ford Team:
3. M.Hirvonen
4. J.M.Latvala

Not sure:
Stobbart:
5. M.Wilson (His daddy has a plan for sure).
6. H.Solberg (Hopes to be back, with Ford? dont know).

Citroen junior:
7. S.Ogier (I think that Citroen wants him for the future)
8. C.Rautenbach??? (Dont know the current balance of his daddy's bank balance).
9. G.Galli (rumours, but not very likely I think).

Ford Monster.
10. C. Atkinson (little bit likely)
11. K. Block (little bit likely)

Munchis:
12. F. Villagra (wants to be back, somehow I believe it is quite likely).

Lonely hunter:
13. P. Solberg (there is so much crap moving around him that you cannot believe anything before you can see him in Swedish Entry list).

Others with WRC:
14. Ostberg with his Subaru
15. Ketomaa with him? or Nikkara? strange rumors

a few rounds:
16. V.Rossi (Mexico with Focus WRC)
17 K.A. Qassimi (With Ford official team)
18. P. Bird (Wanted to do more rounds, plenty of money)
19. U. Aava (do not know anything about him, but there is always possibility that his sponsors find some money)

I would recommend:
1. E.Novikov to Ford-He has the speed and it is right time to take him over from Citroen. And who cares about destroyed Focus WRC-s, they are not allowed from year 2011 anyway:-P

Super 2000 cup (there is separate thread for this):
1. Pons (quite sure)
2. Novikov (Less resources needed)
3. Mikkelsen (depends on the offers)
4. Brynidlsen (just my guess)
5. Araujo (It was his dream for next year)
6. P.G. Andersson (some rumors related to Solberg team)

Pirelli Star Drivers (There is thread for this)
PWRC and JWRC (There will be thread for this).

So, lets just add certain teams and confirmations here to keep better overview.
PS! You can always open new thread for Solberg World :-)

Most of them I think it is what I think. Maybe some changes.

Stobart
5. P. Solberg
6. M. Wilson

Munchi's
F. Villagra
H. Solberg

What happens if Latvala in 2010 can't stay on the road again? Latvala goes to Stobart en Petter to Abu Dhabi BP Ford WRT? I hope Wilson has something behind.

Josti
27th October 2009, 09:01
Probably the same line-up as this year, maybe some extra Focus'.

I'm more curious about the S2000 World Cup to be honest.

Simmi
27th October 2009, 10:42
Probably the same line-up as this year, maybe some extra Focus'.

I'm more curious about the S2000 World Cup to be honest.

Me too I really want to see the S2000 cup become a success. For the first time in a long time it will be a lower-tier series that means something.

If someone shows great speed in the cup that puts them right in the shop window for a works drive in the coming years. It actually puts them at an advantage.

Buzz Lightyear
27th October 2009, 10:53
I cant really see Al-Quassmi or Rautenbach there next year. I dont think I could even be bothered do it if I was trailing around, year after year in last. It must get boring.

bluuford
27th October 2009, 11:44
But it will be exciting for spectators to push Quassimi out from the snowbank in Sweden or take some pieces of crashed Rautenbach´s car as a souvenir from NORF :-)
To talk in truth, then I can remember that Quassimi has longer contract with the BP Ford (something like 5 years plan for M. Wilson).

Barreis
27th October 2009, 14:43
They're enjoying..

karo
27th October 2009, 15:01
Araujo and Flodin drew attention before Rally GB to the fact that S2000 should not be allowed to PWRC because the cost and the performance of the car is so different and there is S2000 cup from 2010. So, it might influence current S2000 car drivers to choose S2000cup instead of PWRC :-)

I agree.....they do not belong in the same class

Sulland
27th October 2009, 15:51
Is it not therefor they came up with the S2000 cup ?

The only part missing is that they ban S2000 in PWRC !

jbmarcus21
27th October 2009, 21:42
or Nikkara? strange rumors



which strange rumour.? Jarkko is going to test with prodrive next week, i have seen in news and rumours threat ...

And what do you think about Marcus & Kimi will join Petter WRT ..?

pettersolberg29
27th October 2009, 22:26
I think it would be pretty cool if PSWRT had a guest driver for each event e.g. Marcus for Sweden, Kimi for Finland, Panizzi for France, Pons for Spain, Alistair McRae for GB etc. Maybe I'm dreaming...

Tomi
27th October 2009, 22:33
And what do you think about Marcus & Kimi will join Petter WRT ..?

Its good to rememer that at this time of the year privateers try to find money to run their show, speading rumours about profile drivers might help them in that, if the sponsors are naive.

N.O.T
28th October 2009, 00:10
i cannot decide who is the more stupid of the two..... the one that spreads stupid rumours or the one thats believes in them ??? can you help me ?

GigiGalliNo1
28th October 2009, 01:45
P. Solberg #2 Driver at BP Ford next year?

JM-L Dropped to Stobart.

Gard
28th October 2009, 07:10
If Petter choose Ford (something I doubt), that would be a possible solution. as long as they have the best possible car and are paid. Neither would care about where they drive.

Edit: If I get the rules right for 2010, they all have to drive the same spec. Can be interesting

J.Lindstroem
28th October 2009, 07:15
i cannot decide who is the more stupid of the two..... the one that spreads stupid rumours or the one thats believes in them ??? can you help me ?

I think it is interesting to follow rumours, does that makes me stupid? No.

I am not stupid. I am not. Really not. Really Really Really Really Not.

Does your name stand for NOT stupit BTW?

Tomi
28th October 2009, 08:00
If Petter choose Ford (something I doubt), that would be a possible solution.

I guess you mean if Ford choose petter.

Tomi
28th October 2009, 08:57
I think it is interesting to follow rumours, does that makes me stupid? No.

Agree, if the rumours are based on some reality, or truth, but when somebody gets a brainfart, and start spreading it as a rumour, then its already different.
If the one who belives everything is stupid, thats again a different issue.

Gard
28th October 2009, 09:33
I guess you mean if Ford choose petter.

Why do you continue this BS? Do you se many other users here constantly bashing drivers. except N.O.T.

We KNOW both Citroen and Ford have offered Petter cars in their teams. What it comes down to is the economics around it and the spec of the cars.

Problem is if Petter takes a paid drive(not confirmed for Citroen), he doesn't get enough freedom to control car spec and "team orders". So we know Petter want's either a full factory drive (not likely) or to get the best car for PSWRT

Tomi
28th October 2009, 09:39
Why do you continue this BS? Do you se many other users here constantly bashing drivers. except N.O.T.

We KNOW both Citroen and Ford have offered Petter cars in their teams. What it comes down to is the economics around it and the spec of the cars.

Problem is if Petter takes a paid drive(not confirmed for Citroen), he doesn't get enough freedom to control car spec and "team orders". So we know Petter want's either a full factory drive (not likely) or to get the best car for PSWRT

I was talking about works seats, the teams still choose the drivers, not the other way around. The same goes for who ever driver, so its not any driver bashing.

Tom206wrc
28th October 2009, 10:14
...
I'm more curious about the S2000 World Cup to be honest.


Same for me :p :

Tomi
28th October 2009, 13:22
Probably the same line-up as this year, maybe some extra Focus'.

I'm more curious about the S2000 World Cup to be honest.

you are right about WRC, lets hope S2000 gets a good line up, and that Atkinson comes back.

J.Lindstroem
28th October 2009, 13:48
Bring me Atkinson and i will be 100% sadisfied.

Tomi
28th October 2009, 18:13
Ketomaa did have a very good developing test with Subaru some time back and finally the newer Subaru version is faster than the old one, Prodrive wants Ketomaa to drive Subaru WRC next season, he is working hard now to get the budget.
Busy guy Ketomaa tested also Opel Corsa S2000 in its first real gravel test, he said the project is in good phase, but that the MSD team are going finance negotiations at the moment, so their next year program is still unclear.

alleskids
29th October 2009, 10:56
Evgeny Novikov will skip the 2010 WRC, he has no budget for it.

muscrae
1st November 2009, 02:15
Looks interesting :) http://www.rallybuzz.com/gronholm-interested-wrc-2010/
Marcus and Petter in C4 WRCs... :) :D

Brother John
1st November 2009, 07:41
Looks interesting :) http://www.rallybuzz.com/gronholm-interested-wrc-2010/
Marcus and Petter in C4 WRCs... :) :D

Just think about what Petter say here in this report.
"I haven't even thought about next year because without money I can forget everything and I only have half the budget right now."
.........yes that´s the hole thing about the future of WRC,
Before you all go further with this dream about new teams and drivers in WRC, think first on this. "No money no rally!"

bluuford
25th November 2009, 18:18
Well I just noticed that season 2009 is now over, Loeb took the last rally win while Mikko took the last stage win of the decade... And we still dont have any proper threads concerning 2010 season. I will make short conclusions what I have read and heard.

WRC
Official:
Citroen Team
1. S.Loeb
2. D.Sordo
Ford Team:
3. M.Hirvonen
4. J.M.Latvala

Not sure:
Stobbart:
5. M.Wilson (His daddy has a plan for sure).
6. H.Solberg (Hopes to be back, with Ford? dont know).

Citroen junior:
7. S.Ogier (I think that Citroen wants him for the future)
8. C.Rautenbach??? (Dont know the current balance of his daddy's bank balance).
9. G.Galli (rumours, but not very likely I think).

Ford Monster.
10. C. Atkinson (little bit likely)
11. K. Block (little bit likely)

Munchis:
12. F. Villagra (wants to be back, somehow I believe it is quite likely).

Lonely hunter:
13. P. Solberg (there is so much crap moving around him that you cannot believe anything before you can see him in Swedish Entry list).

Others with WRC:
14. Ostberg with his Subaru
15. Ketomaa with him? or Nikkara? strange rumors

a few rounds:
16. V.Rossi (Mexico with Focus WRC)
17 K.A. Qassimi (With Ford official team)
18. P. Bird (Wanted to do more rounds, plenty of money)
19. U. Aava (do not know anything about him, but there is always possibility that his sponsors find some money)

I would recommend:
1. E.Novikov to Ford-He has the speed and it is right time to take him over from Citroen. And who cares about destroyed Focus WRC-s, they are not allowed from year 2011 anyway:-P

Super 2000 cup (there is separate thread for this):
1. Pons (quite sure)
2. Novikov (Less resources needed)
3. Mikkelsen (depends on the offers)
4. Brynidlsen (just my guess)
5. Araujo (It was his dream for next year)
6. P.G. Andersson (some rumors related to Solberg team)

Pirelli Star Drivers (There is thread for this)
PWRC and JWRC (There will be thread for this).

So, lets just add certain teams and confirmations here to keep better overview.
PS! You can always open new thread for Solberg World :-)

So, in S2000 cup we have two confirmed fiestas:
1. Tuohino Fiesta
2. Pons Fiesta (read WRC.com)

And in wrc side we can say that Galli in C4 looks more likely than one month ago and Kimi in C4 looks much more likely as well.

Xsara Fan
25th November 2009, 19:47
AFAIK Henning will not start in 2010 - he has only 50% of money. Gigi will start at Citroen, Petter also with Citroen (he found all budget).

pettersolberg29
25th November 2009, 19:51
Sorry to sound dim but whats AFAIK? Just wondering the seriousness of Henning's problem - he'd be a huge miss to WRC.
Also, you say Petter 'found' all budget. Anything to do with a possible K.Raikkonen is it?

noel157
25th November 2009, 20:04
AFAIK it means As Far As I Know

Simmi
25th November 2009, 20:04
AFAIK = As far as I know.

Shame about Henning if true. I thought he was a master at finding sponsorship. But in these times its hard for anyone. He didn't have a great year in 2009 he just seemed to be making up the numbers. Hopefully he can piece a few drives together.

No shame in dropping down to the S2000 cup either. I'm sure M-Sport would do him a Fiesta. On some rallies he might even be in the mix for a class win.

SubaruNorway
25th November 2009, 20:09
AFAIK Henning will not start in 2010 - he has only 50% of money. Gigi will start at Citroen, Petter also with Citroen (he found all budget).

So you heard today that Petter's final sponsor money was confirmed? He was supposed to have a meeting today

Gard
25th November 2009, 20:12
AFAIK Henning will not start in 2010 - he has only 50% of money. Gigi will start at Citroen, Petter also with Citroen (he found all budget).

That sounds strange, since Expert and the co-partners are very satisfied. If what I heard is right Expert sold RC-car models of the orange Focus for more than they have put in the sponsorship

MJW
25th November 2009, 20:28
I heared that Henning has a budget(with Expert) and will compete in 2010 - however it might be in ERC - and I take that to be European Rallycross, not the European Rally Championship.

alleskids
3rd December 2009, 17:04
Van Merksteijn father and son in their Ford Focus WRC, together with father and son Kuiper (Subaru Impreza WRC) will do 5 WRC in 2010, toghether with Bernard ten Brinke, who started his rally career this year by winning the Dutch Rally championship. The Van Merksteijn/Kuiper group will do Sweden, Turkey, Germany, France and Spain.

alleskids
3rd December 2009, 17:20
Conrad Rautenbach is almost certain for the Junior Citroen team in 2010, especially when Kimi Raikonen will drive for the juniors. Because Rautenbach is a great fan of Kimi: " It would be great to be in the same team as him. This is one of my favorite drivers. He has done excellent work in Finland this year and although I do not know, I'm sure there will be an asset to the team. I like his attitude. "

alleskids
31st December 2009, 09:28
So Munchi's Ford will not compete for the Team championship, as Villagra will only do 7 events, as ZequeArgentina tolled us the news? In 2009 the minimum event was 8 out of 12, in 2010 it has to be 8 out of 13.
Only the Citroen senior and junior Red Bulls, plus daddy's Ford team alongeside the son's Ford team will fight for teams points. With 7 cars fighting for 8 point positions, points are almost guaranteed.

bluuford
31st December 2009, 10:21
So Munchi's Ford will not compete for the Team championship, as Villagra will only do 7 events, as ZequeArgentina tolled us the news? In 2009 the minimum event was 8 out of 12, in 2010 it has to be 8 out of 13.
Only the Citroen senior and junior Red Bulls, plus daddy's Ford team alongeside the son's Ford team will fight for teams points. With 7 cars fighting for 8 point positions, points are almost guaranteed.

You didn't read the regulations properly. Any car is eligible to Manufacturer Team Championship. So, I guess in the other events this PWRC guy can be their nominated points scorer?

V.Gatev
31st December 2009, 11:14
Today bulgarian rally driver Todor SLAVOV send his entry form for 2010 edition of JWRC. He will drive with Renault Clio R3 Maxi and will participate in Turkey, Bulgaria, Germany, France and Spain.

alleskids
31st December 2009, 11:19
You didn't read the regulations properly. Any car is eligible to Manufacturer Team Championship. So, I guess in the other events this PWRC guy can be their nominated points scorer?

Miguel Baldoni will do PWRC programme with an EVO X of the San Luis WRT (tecnicallly run by spanish team CALM). But indeed he could be nominated inname of Munchi's WRT

alleskids
1st January 2010, 00:51
Hermann Gassner Jr is planning to do P-WRC in 2010. Being 21, he already has won many prices, and feels he has nothing to prove anymore in Germany's and Austria's rally scene. He hopes to have the budget in place for the deadline of 12 januari .

alleskids
7th January 2010, 17:22
2009 Production car champion Armindo Araujo will again do the PWRC. But it is uncertain whether he can do the entire championship, because he still has not the budget in place. He will drive with RalliArt Italy.

ProRally
7th January 2010, 17:46
2009 Production car champion Armindo Araujo will again do the PWRC. But it is uncertain whether he can do the entire championship, because he still has not the budget in place. He will drive with RalliArt Italy.

I hope they give him better car then the disaster Pirelli Star Drivers cars in 2009....

Tomi
7th January 2010, 17:50
I hope they give him better car then the disaster Pirelli Star Drivers cars in 2009....

lol, i was thinking the exactly same, or that even with full budget he propably drives only half of the rallies.

Mirek
7th January 2010, 17:54
He drove Ralliart Italy Evo X in Walles and was seriously fast with it and also finished. I'm afaraid that the car was very different to those of PSD drivers...

alleskids
8th January 2010, 20:47
Armindo Araújo and co-pilot Miguel Ramalho have secured the budget for defending their PWRC title. They wil do 6 rallies (Sweden, Mexico, Jordan, Germany, France and Wales), but more importantly, have the budget to do extensive testing and develloping the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X of RalliArt Italy.

RS
8th January 2010, 22:47
Is anybody else actually doing pWRC or jWRC this year? All we have heard about is SWRC.

RICARDO75
8th January 2010, 23:25
Is anybody else actually doing pWRC or jWRC this year? All we have heard about is SWRC.

PWRC
Armindo Araújo (MITSUBISHI)
Miguel Baldoni (MITSUBISHI)
Hermann Gassner Jr. (MITSUBISHI)

JWRC
Todor Slavov (RENAULT CLIO R3)

AndyRAC
9th January 2010, 00:05
PWRC
Armindo Araújo (MITSUBISHI)
Miguel Baldoni (MITSUBISHI)
Hermann Gassner Jr. (MITSUBISHI)

JWRC
Todor Slavov (RENAULT CLIO R3)

Why? Is it actually worth doing?

eloyf1
9th January 2010, 01:05
Egoi Eder Valdés will move from PWRC to JWRC. He will race in Portugal, Bulgaria, Germany, France and Spain with an Italian Clio R3...

I hope he will finish for once his first WRC event, after an unfortunate 2009 season :(

Mirek
9th January 2010, 01:20
Also Yoann Bonato in JWRC. Maybe Dutch boys again?

bluuford
9th January 2010, 08:09
There are some rumors that we might see some Honda Civic Type-R-s in JWRC as well. The rules regarding car length was changed this year to allow them to take part.
And there is a possibility that some Pirelli Star Drivers can get enough events to qualify for PWRC. At the end of last year Tänak planned to do more events than just PSD events. However, current situation is not known.

alleskids
9th January 2010, 08:48
Hans Weijs and Kevin Abbring are still seeking 35% of their budget. The KNAF is giving more support to circuit racing this year, and a lott less to rallying.

ProRally
9th January 2010, 09:01
There will be very few in PWRC and JWRC in 2010, the drivers who did PWRC in past and have budget all moved to SWRC.

EavesFan09
9th January 2010, 10:07
PWRC
Armindo Araújo (MITSUBISHI)
Miguel Baldoni (MITSUBISHI)
Hermann Gassner Jr. (MITSUBISHI)

JWRC
Todor Slavov (RENAULT CLIO R3)

Any confirmation on which teams they are going to run with?

Will Armindo still run with Equipa even though he is 2009 PWRC Champion? I would have thought he would have graduated to the WRC.

Mirek
9th January 2010, 12:05
He has hardly enough budget to run PWRC. No chance for WRC...

EavesFan09
9th January 2010, 12:06
]He has hardly enough budget to run PWRC. No chance for WRC...

So is he a non-entrant then?

jrally
9th January 2010, 13:30
Armindo will defend his title of 2009 again with Ralliart Italy !

alleskids
9th January 2010, 13:58
Armindo Araújo really wanted to do SWRT, but the needed budget is higher then P-WRC, and he could harldy get that budget in place. WRCars are a (budget) level to high for him

alleskids
9th January 2010, 14:52
Young Frenchman (from Corsica?) Loïc Mattei (18) will drive in the J-WRC. He will drive Turkey, Portugal, Bulgaria, Germany and France. He drove in Rally GB last year in a Peugeot 207 RC.

vino_93
9th January 2010, 15:08
Junior :
Egoi Elder Valdes Lopes (propre équipe) Portugal, Bulgarie, Allemange, France, Espagne
Loïc Matteï (propre équipe) Turquie, Portugal, Bulgarie, Allemange, France
Todor Slavov (propre équipe) Turquie, Bulgarie, Allemange, France, Espagne
? (Team Sab Motorsport) Turquie, Portugal, Bulgarie, France, Espagne

Production :
Toshi Arai (Subaru Team Arai) Mexique, Nouvelle Zélande, Allemagne, Japon, France, Grande Bretagne
Gabor Mayer (Gaboko Hungary) Mexique, Jordanie, Nouvelle Zélande, Finlande, Japon, Grande BRetagne
Nicholai Georgiou (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Peter Horsey (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Hayden Paddon (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Alex Raschi (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Ott Tanak (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Armindo Araujo (Ralliart Italia) Suède, Mexique, Jordanie, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
? (Czech National Team) Suède, Jordanie, Nouvelle Zélande, Finlande, Allemagne, Grande Bretagne
Gianluca Linari (propre team) Suède, Mexique, Jordanie, Nouvelle Zélande, Japon, France
Fabio Frisiero (Hawk Racing Club) Suède, Mexique, Nouvelle Zélande, Finlande, France, Grande Bretagne

yes alleskids, Matteï comes from Corsica ;)

Francis44
9th January 2010, 15:23
Yes, Armindo Araújo is now confirmed to participate in the PWRC.

The program consistes on 6 rallys (Sweden, Mexico, Jordania, Germany, France and Wales) and an intensive test program.

It isn't confirmed if he will run in Portugal, but he may find some money to rent a S2000 just for Rally of Portugal.

ProRally
9th January 2010, 16:57
Also Cody Crocker would do PWRC, he has budget for 3 rounds and is looking for more. He would do Mex,Jordan,Jap looking for money to do NZ, Fin, GB

ProRally
9th January 2010, 17:04
So until now 4 JWRC and 6 PWRC (not counting PSD) ....

vino_93
9th January 2010, 17:06
6 Teams in WRC-Cup : Barwa World Rally Team (Nasser Al Attiyah), Dynamic World Rally Team (Michal Kosciuszko), Skoda-Rene Georges Rallysport (Eyvind Brynildsen), JanPro (Janne Tuohino), Czech Ford National Team (Martin Prokop), Red Bull Rally Team (Patrick Sandell)

EavesFan09
9th January 2010, 17:06
Junior :
Egoi Elder Valdes Lopes (propre équipe) Portugal, Bulgarie, Allemange, France, Espagne
Loïc Matteï (propre équipe) Turquie, Portugal, Bulgarie, Allemange, France
Todor Slavov (propre équipe) Turquie, Bulgarie, Allemange, France, Espagne
? (Team Sab Motorsport) Turquie, Portugal, Bulgarie, France, Espagne

Production :
Toshi Arai (Subaru Team Arai) Mexique, Nouvelle Zélande, Allemagne, Japon, France, Grande Bretagne
Gabor Mayer (Gaboko Hungary) Mexique, Jordanie, Nouvelle Zélande, Finlande, Japon, Grande BRetagne
Nicholai Georgiou (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Peter Horsey (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Hayden Paddon (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Alex Raschi (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Ott Tanak (Pirelli Star Driver) Finlande, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
Armindo Araujo (Ralliart Italia) Suède, Mexique, Jordanie, Allemagne, France, Grande Bretagne
? (Czech National Team) Suède, Jordanie, Nouvelle Zélande, Finlande, Allemagne, Grande Bretagne
Gianluca Linari (propre team) Suède, Mexique, Jordanie, Nouvelle Zélande, Japon, France
Fabio Frisiero (Hawk Racing Club) Suède, Mexique, Nouvelle Zélande, Finlande, France, Grande Bretagne

yes alleskids, Matteï comes from Corsica ;)

Who are their co-drivers and what cars are they set to run?

vino_93
9th January 2010, 17:09
Who are their co-drivers and what cars are they set to run?

I don't know official, the FIA didn't say that ...
For the cars, maybe :
Junior :
Valdes Lopez, Slavov, SAB Motorsport : Clio R3
Matteï : ? 207 RC ?

Production :
Arai, Mayer, Linari : Subaru Impreza
PSDs, Araujo : Lancer Evo X
Frisiero, Czech National Team : ?

ProRally
9th January 2010, 17:19
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/s2000_teams.aspx

ProRally
9th January 2010, 17:20
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/pwrc_2010.aspx

ProRally
9th January 2010, 17:20
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/jwrc_2010.aspx

Simmi
9th January 2010, 17:37
Shame to see the fields so decimated this year. The SWRC hurts PWRC and vice versa. Would be nice if Pirelli or whoever could dig a bit deeper and put star drivers in an S2000. That would bring a bit more spectacle to that competition I think.

alleskids
9th January 2010, 18:09
6 Teams in WRC-Cup : Barwa World Rally Team (Nasser Al Attiyah), Dynamic World Rally Team (Michal Kosciuszko), Skoda-Rene Georges Rallysport (Eyvind Brynildsen), JanPro (Janne Tuohino), Czech Ford National Team (Martin Prokop), Red Bull Rally Team (Patrick Sandell)

No Bernard Sousa and Xavier Pons regristered?

vino_93
9th January 2010, 18:21
Maybe just in S-WRC and not in WRC-Cup :/ But the entry list of S-WRC is not published for this moment ;)

GigiGalliNo1
9th January 2010, 18:48
What's the difference between S-WRC and WRC-Cup?

alleskids
9th January 2010, 18:50
Sousa was mentioning on Portugese sites, that he would be entered under M-Sport banner. maybe he and Pons do not want to pay an extra fee

RICARDO75
9th January 2010, 18:51
JWRC
"The FIA may consider registrations until 30 April 2010, subject to agreement and availability."

PWRC/ WRC CUP
"The FIA may consider registrations until 9 April 2010, subject to agreement and availability."

RICARDO75
9th January 2010, 18:53
What's the difference between S-WRC and WRC-Cup?

SWRC is for drivers and WRC CUP for Teams

alleskids
9th January 2010, 18:56
S-WRC is "only" for drivers. World Cup is for teams champion points. it was original meant as a team S2000 championship for teams who hired a new driver every new rally. but when Touhino, Pons, Prokop entered under their own name for the full 7 rallies, the FIA created the SWRC for drivers to have points and publicity

RS
10th January 2010, 07:31
Armindo Araújo really wanted to do SWRT, but the needed budget is higher then P-WRC, and he could harldy get that budget in place. WRCars are a (budget) level to high for him

It is strange that the pWRC champion cannot get budget for sWRC, but a slow driver from the same country can :(

br21
10th January 2010, 10:12
surely two more drivers registered for JWRC, I don't know why they are not on the list

morganmilan
10th January 2010, 11:16
surely two more drivers registered for JWRC, I don't know why they are not on the list
Which ones and what cars?

Tomi
10th January 2010, 11:44
It is strange that the pWRC champion cannot get budget for sWRC, but a slow driver from the same country can :(

Nothing strange about that, because sponsors are usually individual, and based on long term co-working and relations.

pantealex
10th January 2010, 12:05
There is also Reijo Muhonen gentleman driver from Finland coming to PWRC with evoX, he will start from Sweden and skip Mexico...

bluuford
10th January 2010, 12:35
There is also Reijo Muhonen gentleman driver from Finland coming to PWRC with evoX, he will start from Sweden and skip Mexico...

The reason might be related to the fact that this list is according to the results from 4th of January. But you can also sign up until the closing date for entries for Rally Sweden (if your program starts from Sweden) and of course if you start even later then you can sign up until April.

The reason why there are so few JWRC entries is also related to the fact that their first rally is Turkey which is still very far away :-)

ProRally
10th January 2010, 14:05
True, there is possibility to 'late' entry, but still in JWRC and PWRC it will be thin field...
SWRC-Teams and SWRC-Drivers will be ok.

Compare it IRC Monte Carlo, there is also 'only' 50 starters... will take some more months to find budgets....

EavesFan09
12th January 2010, 13:31
True, there is possibility to 'late' entry, but still in JWRC and PWRC it will be thin field...
SWRC-Teams and SWRC-Drivers will be ok.

Compare it IRC Monte Carlo, there is also 'only' 50 starters... will take some more months to find budgets....

Is this any indication of the future of the JWRC? The S1600 cars are after all the slowest of all the cars in the WRC (S2000, WRC and Group N cars) with a cylinder capacity of 1600, a torque of 600 and a h/p of 300. The new drivers coming in seem to be more than capable of handling the N4, WRC and S2000 cars. I think we could see a future where all drivers are super capable of handling much more powerful cars.

RICARDO75
12th January 2010, 13:46
Is this any indication of the future of the JWRC? The S1600 cars are after all the slowest of all the cars in the WRC (S2000, WRC and Group N cars) with a cylinder capacity of 1600, a torque of 600 and a h/p of 300. The new drivers coming in seem to be more than capable of handling the N4, WRC and S2000 cars. I think we could see a future where all drivers are super capable of handling much more powerful cars.

The S1600 cars with a torque of 600n.m. and a h/p of 300?
That´s super super super 1600!!!

Mirek
12th January 2010, 14:13
Indeed :) S1600 has around 230-240 Hp and around 200 Nm.

ProRally
12th January 2010, 19:52
Henning Solberg with Ilka Minor on Swedish Entry list :D

EavesFan09
14th January 2010, 08:46
I'm getting a headache trying to keep up to speed with all these new entries in the WRC, JWRC, SWRC and PWRC. :(

bluuford
14th January 2010, 09:34
Well, I had to wait a ferry and had nothing to do and therefore created simple table: http://www.tlu.ee/~annu/Season2010/hooaeg2010.xls
It gives you quite a good overview :-)

Donney
14th January 2010, 10:08
Nice one, thank you!

alleskids
17th January 2010, 10:08
Ken Block will do Mexico, Turkey, Portugal, France, Germany, Spain en GB. Chris Atkinson will only be an adviser and do motes for him

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=cs&sl=cs&tl=en&u=http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php%3Fid%3D13148

anesa
17th January 2010, 14:35
Toshihiro Arai announced that is co-driver this year for the PWRC is Daniel Barritt.

Source: himself, at a gathering for his fans and reported here
http://www.rallyplus.net/news/info.php?no=23839

Conrad in 2010??

MJW
17th January 2010, 14:46
Conrad in 2010??
I dont think we will see Conrad this year. Anthony Warmbold was another similar driver, who suddenly stopped and no sign of him. Come to think of it so did Natalie Barret and Alistair Ginley - sudden stop and disappear.
It's only Matthew Wilson left.............but he has 5 more years in his plan

Tomi
17th January 2010, 16:39
Come to think of it so did Natalie Barret and Alistair Ginley - sudden stop and disappear.

I think she run out of cash, one my friend did teach her to drive.

swordsman
17th January 2010, 18:03
I think she run out of cash, one my friend did teach her to drive.

So, congrats to your rich friend! :)

Tomi
17th January 2010, 18:59
So, congrats to your rich friend! :)

Lol, good one :)

Simmi
17th January 2010, 19:30
It's only Matthew Wilson left.............but he has 5 more years in his plan

I hadn't given much thought to Matt this year but in this weeks Motorsport News they talk about the funding being a bit touch and go for this year. Stobart didn't register along with the works Ford/Cit and the Citroen Junior team.

In the article Malcolm says they are hopefully going to continue with the Focus but they are looking at the option of using the Fiesta this year. So it doesn't seem his programme this year is cut and dry at all.

I personally think Matt would be better getting a few outings in the Fiesta. Also if by mid-season there is a calendar out for next year there might not be the need to do some rallies if they aren't going to be maintained in the future.

bluuford
25th January 2010, 13:47
PSD driver H. Paddon announced today that he will do New-Zealand and Japan as well. So, he has now 6 rallies that count in PWRC and so, he is 9th driver doing full PWRC season.

dimviii
25th January 2010, 20:10
PSD driver H. Paddon announced today that he will do New-Zealand and Japan as well. So, he has now 6 rallies that count in PWRC and so, he is 9th driver doing full PWRC season.

Nice for a young and really fast guy.Looking forward for him.

Mitch555
26th January 2010, 11:54
I think Paddon will surprise a few this year. He's very quick, even over roads he doesn't have any experience on.

EavesFan09
26th January 2010, 13:21
PSD driver H. Paddon announced today that he will do New-Zealand and Japan as well. So, he has now 6 rallies that count in PWRC and so, he is 9th driver doing full PWRC season.

How many in total in the PRWC over the season? Logging those entris on the Swedish Rally website and other sources I have 30

Subaru Impreza:
Gianluca Linari, Toshi Arai, Gabor Meyer, Magus Samuelsson, Erdi Tibor, Joakim Roman, Andres Grondal, Marious Aasen, Tony Jardine and Florian Gonon.

Mitsubishi Evo IX or X:
Martin Cemerand, Armindo Arajuo, Fabio Frisieio, Reiji Muhonen, Paulo Nobre, Patrik Flodin, Herman Gassner, Nicholai Georgiou, Peter Horsey, Haydon Padden, Alex Raschi, Ott Tank, Eamonn Boland, Joakim Nyman, Jukka Ketomaki, Ari Laviola, Roman Kresta, Brian Green, Oscar Ordfeldt and Alexander Villanueva.

bluuford
26th January 2010, 19:57
How many in total in the PRWC over the season? Logging those entris on the Swedish Rally website and other sources I have 30

Subaru Impreza:
Gianluca Linari, Toshi Arai, Gabor Meyer, Magus Samuelsson, Erdi Tibor, Joakim Roman, Andres Grondal, Marious Aasen, Tony Jardine and Florian Gonon.

Mitsubishi Evo IX or X:
Martin Cemerand, Armindo Arajuo, Fabio Frisieio, Reiji Muhonen, Paulo Nobre, Patrik Flodin, Herman Gassner, Nicholai Georgiou, Peter Horsey, Haydon Padden, Alex Raschi, Ott Tank, Eamonn Boland, Joakim Nyman, Jukka Ketomaki, Ari Laviola, Roman Kresta, Brian Green, Oscar Ordfeldt and Alexander Villanueva.

You should do at least 6 events (You can choose from 9 events) in PWRC and I think two of them should be outside Europe. Points will be given only to registered drivers. So far registered are:

1.Araujo, A. Mitsu
2.Arai, T. Subaru
3.Semerad, M. Mitsu
4.Baldoni Mitsu
5.Mayer, G.
6.Linari, G. Subaru
7.Frisiero, F. Mitsu
8.Muhonen, R. Mitsu
9.Nobre, P. Mitsu
10.Paddon, H. Mitsu

During each rally local ASN can nominate two additional wild card entries to PWRC and seems than in SWRC too. In Sweden these two are Flodin, P (Mitsu) ja Nyman, J. (Mitsu)
The regsitartion date is later in the season, so some drivers are still expected to register.

SWRC it is more or less the same. You have to do at least 7 events (2 outside Europe), you can choose from 10 events and registered drivers so far are:
1.Tuohino Ford
2.Pons Ford
3.Sousa Ford
4.Prokop Ford
5.Al Attyah Ford
6.Sandell Skoda
7.Brynildsen Skoda
8.Kocziusko Ford

And two wildcards for Sweden: Andersson (Skoda), Sääv (Skoda). There is still time to register to SWRC until April.

In JWRC you have to do 5 events and you can choose those from 6 rallies.
registered so far are:
1. Slavov, T. Renault
2. Valdes, Renault
3. Mattei, Renault
4. Neuville, Citroen
5. Sab motorsport (you dont have to register your name, you can register as a team)
And Bonato, Y is expected to register and some more. Their season starts from Turkey

Then there is drivers championship. All drivers can fight for it but normally drivers with WR Cars reach to top 8 and get points.

Then there is Manufacturers Championship where registered manufacturers can collect points. Only nominated cars can do so. So far 4 manufacturers are registered and you can find them from entry list under the numbers 1-8.

The other drivers are just fighting for the overall glory or just for experience or just for fun or just on what ever reason.

ZequeArgentina
26th January 2010, 20:00
There is still time to register for PWRS, SWRC and JWRC.

Thereare more to come.
Baldoni (ARG) has confirmedwith lancer EVO IX or X. He will use sevelral teams (Argentienan prepared EVO X for Mexico) then probably CALM team for european rounds

ProRally
26th January 2010, 20:32
Also some JWRC drivers are looking for budget, they still have lots of time to sign up, for sure there will be several more.

Simmi
26th January 2010, 20:59
I'm not sure what I think about it but does anyone think it is somewhat unfair to have guys confirming entry to the championships after the first round?

Take SWRC for example. If you are sitting on the sidelines watching Rally Sweden. If there were to be lots of high profile retirements, perhaps if the Fiesta's had a problem in severe cold temperatures maybe. You could then think to yourself if I enter and pick my rounds carefully I can grab myself a 10-8 point advantage on these guys, especially now I know where they will be competing.

This whole issue doesn't matter to me. I hope there is a huge swell of entries right up to the deadline, the more the better - but from a competition standpoint - what do other people think? I know this isn't exactly a new problem but it is just something that occured to me now.

br21
26th January 2010, 21:52
5. Sab motorsport (you dont have to register your name, you can register as a team)
It's Alex Broccoli entered as Sab Motorsport

bluuford
27th January 2010, 09:28
It's Alex Broccoli entered as Sab Motorsport

Ok I just found that he fits to the age limit. You have to be born after 1.January 1981 and Broccoli was Born in 6th Of April 1981 :-)

jonkka
27th January 2010, 19:55
I'm not sure what I think about it but does anyone think it is somewhat unfair to have guys confirming entry to the championships after the first round?

Allowing some flexibility keeps door open to greater number of competitors - not everyone can find come up with full season's programme worth of funding and support so easily. It's a compromise and I think it's for the better to allow late entries in too.

RS
28th January 2010, 16:25
Citroen Junior Team are registered as a full manufacturer team, does this mean that Ogier and Raikkonen will be using the latest 2009 spec C4s?

jonkka
29th January 2010, 05:30
They would be anyhow...

EDIT: Sorry, my mistake. Seems that FIA got clever and forbade WRC Teams to use 2009 spec cars...

EavesFan09
29th January 2010, 09:36
There is still time to register for PWRS, SWRC and JWRC.

Thereare more to come.
Baldoni (ARG) has confirmedwith lancer EVO IX or X. He will use sevelral teams (Argentienan prepared EVO X for Mexico) then probably CALM team for european rounds

Miguel Baldoni? Who is his co-driver? He did one rally where it was a R. Quiroz which I assume to be Ruben Quiroz?

RS
29th January 2010, 12:58
They would be anyhow...

EDIT: Sorry, my mistake. Seems that FIA got clever and forbade WRC Teams to use 2009 spec cars...

Yes, but I read somewhere that CJT are registered as a "manufacturer" and not a "team", therefore they can use the latest cars, same as Citroen big boys team?

Roy
30th January 2010, 12:30
Yes, but I read somewhere that CJT are registered as a "manufacturer" and not a "team", therefore they can use the latest cars, same as Citroen big boys team?

I don't understand these 'rule' any more. Who can used spec 09 cars? Manufactures isn't? So Citroen, Ford and also Citroen Juniors and Stobart can used them. They all registered as Manufactures. Look at FIA website:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/wrc_2010_manf.aspx

So why is Stobart not using the 09 spec? Citroen Juniors do! Is it to much costs for M-Sport to rebuild a old WRC car what is almost 'dead' because the S2000? I think that could be a reason. But it is not clear for me.

alleskids
30th January 2010, 13:25
Or Ford is not interested in the Stobart drivers to perform wel. only that thet pay for the cars, were Citroen has big interest in Sordo, Ogier and Raikkonen performing as good as possible, namely 2rd, 3th and 4th behind Loeb. Also having Raikkonen score good, gives Citroen a lot of publicity. CJT gets 2009 spec because Citroen has a long term interest in Ogier and Raikkonen.
Even Khalid Al Qassimi does not get a 2009 spec, although he pays a lot of the bills for the Ford factory team.
Red Bull pays a lot of the bills for Citroen, and wants their protege Raikkone to have the best possible equipement, if it is not possible as a third Citroen driver, then give the Junior team a full manufactuerer status.

Simmi
30th January 2010, 13:41
I dont think Stobart are paying what they once were perhaps? I think their committment to the sport is being tested lets say. They didn't have much to shout about last year. Gronholm scoring points in Sweden could be a deal sweetner for them but who knows how much they will really get out of it or if they will even be present on the cars livery.

bluuford
30th January 2010, 14:23
I don't understand these 'rule' any more. Who can used spec 09 cars? Manufactures isn't? So Citroen, Ford and also Citroen Juniors and Stobart can used them. They all registered as Manufactures. Look at FIA website:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/wrc_2010_manf.aspx

So why is Stobart not using the 09 spec? Citroen Juniors do! Is it to much costs for M-Sport to rebuild a old WRC car what is almost 'dead' because the S2000? I think that could be a reason. But it is not clear for me.

It is very simple:
7. FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP FOR MANUFACTURERS
7.1 ANNOUNCEMENT
A Manufacturer or a WRC Team, as defined below, may compete in the Championship.
So, that means manufacturers and WRC teams both qualify for the championship.
So, why Stobbart is not registered as manufacturer?
and they cannot use the following rule:
7.2.6 A Manufacturer may enter only cars corresponding to the 2009 homologated version of a World Rally Car in conformity with the 2010 Appendix
So why?

Reason 1.
For manufacturer the entry fee is: 238700 EUR
For WRC Team it is: 31800EUR
The difference is already the price of S2000 car (206900 EUR).

Reason 2.
Entry fee for individual event for manufacturer is: 34300 EUR
Entry fee for individulal event for WRC team is 12500 EUR (or 6250 Eur in case of one car entered).
Te difference is 21800 EUR per rally the whole season 283400 EUR (Price of another S2000 car).

Reason 3.
If you run out of money you can do only 8 events.

Reason 4.
You don't have to nominate first driver before the season. (There were some issues realted to Stobbart and Matthew).
You can see that difference is at least 490300 EUR and security that you wont get penalty if you will not do the whole season.

Downside. You cannot use 2009 cars, but in case of ford the difference is minimal (their 2009 upgrades were nearly 0).

Roy
30th January 2010, 15:06
Thnx Bluuford, but this helping me not, because Stobart is not a WRC team, but a Manufacturer... See link I in my earlier post.

bluuford
30th January 2010, 15:12
Thnx Bluuford, but this helping me not, because Stobart is not a WRC team, but a Manufacturer... See link I in my earlier post.

No, Stobbart is WRC team and this link is showing that they are taking part in manufacturers championship. As I said before, both, WRC teams and manufacturer teams are participatng in manufacturers championship! It is bit confusing for sure :-)
So, one more time. teams can be: 1. manufacturer 2. WRC team.
But there is only one championship for them called : WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP FOR MANUFACTURERS:-)

Barreis
30th January 2010, 15:24
What is 238 700 EUR for manufacturer?! That's nothing for them.. ISC is their problem 'cos people are not interested in WRC.. Eurosport could change some things but that's IRC and not WRC..

Roy
30th January 2010, 15:59
But there is only one championship for them called : WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP FOR MANUFACTURERS:-)

I know, I know already.

Now I found what I was looking for.
autosport.com mentioned Stobart earlier as a manufacturer. I read a newer article with a interview with Malcolm and he say it is a 'M2' team, so a WRC Team.
I had wrong info from autosport.com and that makes me confused. Your information was perfect.

bluuford
30th January 2010, 16:02
What is 238 700 EUR for manufacturer?! That's nothing for them.. ISC is their problem 'cos people are not interested in WRC.. Eurosport could change some things but that's IRC and not WRC..

In total it was nearly 500 000 EUR That is more than one brand new WR Car. And if count every cent lie Malcolm does, then it is a fortune :-)

bluuford
30th January 2010, 16:24
I was just wondering. If Citroen Juniors are registered as a manufacturer, then they should do all 3 events. Initially they planned to skip New-Zealand. Now they have to do N-Z as well. It is long haul event (Transporting var takes a lot of time). It is little bit after Turkey and not much before Portugal. So, they probably need two additional cars for this event and therefore they have not enough cars to rent for Galli or Rautenbach (It was announced that Citroen do not have cars left for them).

Mirek
30th January 2010, 16:30
In total it was nearly 500 000 EUR That is more than one brand new WR Car.

I know about one private Focus 08 WRC and it cost 800 tousand Euro with spares. It was new car.

Roy
30th January 2010, 16:56
I was just wondering. If Citroen Juniors are registered as a manufacturer, then they should do all 3 events. Initially they planned to skip New-Zealand. Now they have to do N-Z as well. It is long haul event (Transporting var takes a lot of time). It is little bit after Turkey and not much before Portugal. So, they probably need two additional cars for this event and therefore they have not enough cars to rent for Galli or Rautenbach (It was announced that Citroen do not have cars left for them).

It was only Kimi who doesn't go to NZ? So Ogier and.. Petter drives for CJT down under?

alleskids
30th January 2010, 17:12
Press release quoted that Raikkonen AND his team and teammate Ogier would skip New Zealand. That was before it was published that the Junior team is a real manufacturer, which forces them to do Rally New Zealand, which is not a crime to do I think :)

pettersolberg29
30th January 2010, 17:28
Surely Ogier will do every round. Petter or Conrad (!) may join him in NZ.

Barreis
30th January 2010, 18:27
]I know about one private Focus 08 WRC and it cost 800 tousand Euro with spares. It was new car.

Last year M-sport '08 focus was 500 000 GBP +vat (small spare parts)..

alleskids
30th January 2010, 19:10
But why would only Kimi skip Rally New Zealand? Has he other important things to do between 7 and 9 may? Can one of the Finnish Rally Mafia squad give us secret inside information?

Tomi
30th January 2010, 19:26
But why would only Kimi skip Rally New Zealand? Has he other important things to do between 7 and 9 may? Can one of the Finnish Rally Mafia squad give us secret inside information?

Not member of FRM, but maybe NZ is too close to icehockey world championships, he is a big fan of hockey.

alleskids
30th January 2010, 19:38
I like this kind of charachter, he is in the sport for his fun, so if an other event is interrumpting with his race/rally calander, he just skips the race/rally event. :)

Barreis
30th January 2010, 19:48
Not F1.. :)

Simmi
30th January 2010, 19:52
I like this kind of charachter, he is in the sport for his fun, so if an other event is interrumpting with his race/rally calander, he just skips the race/rally event. :)

Well he wouldn't exactly have skipped a European round would he.

alleskids
30th January 2010, 21:14
maybe that is why Kimi was not happy in F1, he could not have a holiday when he wanted to, to visit hockey :) . would you not be pissed off if youre boss never gave you a day off when you wanted it the most?

Simmi
30th January 2010, 22:48
maybe that is why Kimi was not happy in F1, he could not have a holiday when he wanted to, to visit hockey :) . would you not be pissed off if youre boss never gave you a day off when you wanted it the most?

I wouldn't complain if I was earning what Kimi was earning.It's not like the hours of a Formula 1 driver are unreasonable either.

bluuford
30th January 2010, 23:42
]I know about one private Focus 08 WRC and it cost 800 tousand Euro with spares. It was new car.

At the end of 2009 I was looking from M-sport web-page and I saw that 4-5 Focus-es in 2008 spec with the spares to convert it to tarmac or gravel cost 530 000 EUR, but now it seems that they have sold all of them and only one 2006 spec focus is left (of course, without a price). Seems that some kind of money has reach to the market and all the cars are bought (maybe because they wont build more such kind of cars).
From http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/ and here: http://www.rally24.com/rally-cars-for-sale/ you can find the following newer WR Cars with the following prices:
Subaru Impreza S12B 286 000 EUR
Subaru Impreza S11 243 000 EUR (2006)
Subaru Impreza S12B 358 000 EUR (2007)
Subaru Impreza S12B 393 000 EUR (2008)
Focus WRC 2005 180 000 EUR (2005)
Focus WRC 2006 200 000 EUR (2006)
Skoda Fabia 2003 310 000 EUR
Citroen Xsara WRC 460 000 EUR (2005)
Peugeot 307 WRC (2009 spec) 270 000 EUR

Looks like thre prices dropped a lot last year but now the prices are climbing very fast.

Boudica
31st January 2010, 01:32
I wouldn't complain if I was earning what Kimi was earning.It's not like the hours of a Formula 1 driver are unreasonable either.

Kimi would never skip a rally or a race to watch ice hockey. He might be a causal type of guy but he is focused and he takes his racing seriously. He is used to doing 17 - 19 races a year. And last year when all the in season F1 testing was cut, Kimi was already bored with all the free time (that is when he did rallying). There is already a few less rallies in the calender then F1 races.
And if he is serious about rallying he will not want to miss a rally if he could help it. There must be something else behind the fact that he is not going to New Zeeland, perhaps Red Bull didn't want to sponsor the travelling costs or something. Or the only other reason there might be is that he could be doing Lemans or something.

JFL
31st January 2010, 02:46
At the end of 2009 I was looking from M-sport web-page and I saw that 4-5 Focus-es in 2008 spec with the spares to convert it to tarmac or gravel cost 530 000 EUR, but now it seems that they have sold all of them and only one 2006 spec focus is left (of course, without a price). Seems that some kind of money has reach to the market and all the cars are bought (maybe because they wont build more such kind of cars).
From http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/ and here: http://www.rally24.com/rally-cars-for-sale/ you can find the following newer WR Cars with the following prices:
Subaru Impreza S12B 286 000 EUR
Subaru Impreza S11 243 000 EUR (2006)
Subaru Impreza S12B 358 000 EUR (2007)
Subaru Impreza S12B 393 000 EUR (2008)
Focus WRC 2005 180 000 EUR (2005)
Focus WRC 2006 200 000 EUR (2006)
Skoda Fabia 2003 310 000 EUR
Citroen Xsara WRC 460 000 EUR (2005)
Peugeot 307 WRC (2009 spec) 270 000 EUR

Looks like thre prices dropped a lot last year but now the prices are climbing very fast.

Citroen Xsara WRC is holding a good price still.. Wonder why ,,,.. ;)
That's not the case in the roadcar section.. ;)

grugsticles
31st January 2010, 18:44
2009 Spec 307? It exists??
If its even semi competitive, at 270 grand its an attractive price for a competitor (in the world of the rich or well sponsored at least :) ).

Mirek
31st January 2010, 21:10
Yes, there were two new option variants homologated in 2009 (rollbar and bodywork): http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.ns ... s_2010.pdf (http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/81AC88D7200D66F3C12576BA00339029/$FILE/ToutesVoitures_2010.pdf)

ProRally
1st February 2010, 07:23
]Yes, there were two new option variants homologated in 2009 (rollbar and bodywork): http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.ns ... s_2010.pdf (http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/81AC88D7200D66F3C12576BA00339029/$FILE/ToutesVoitures_2010.pdf)

Nice list, makes good reading in the 'little room'.... :D :D :D

Tomi
1st February 2010, 08:16
maybe that is why Kimi was not happy in F1, he could not have a holiday when he wanted to, to visit hockey :) . would you not be pissed off if youre boss never gave you a day off when you wanted it the most?

The Icehockey thing was a joke offcourse.

alleskids
1st February 2010, 15:36
You can expect such things from Kimi, he brings a lot of charachter to the autosport/rallysport

alleskids
2nd February 2010, 18:17
FIA announced an updated list of applications PCWRC. The list grew to 16 drivers, including five Pirelli Star drivers. Nick Georgiou and Hayden Paddon expanded program of six races from the fund Pirelli, a further two rounds of PCWRC.

PCWRC REGISTRATION LIST 2010
31 Armindo Araujo (Ralliart Italy) S, MEX, HKJ, D, F, GB
32 Toshi Arai (Subaru Team Arai) MEX, NZ, D, J, M, GB
33 Gianluca Linari (pryw.) S, MEX, HKJ, NZ, J, F
34 Martin Semerád (Czech National Team) S, HKJ, NZ, FIN, D, GB
35 Gabor Mayer (Hungary Gaboko ASE) MEX, HKJ, NZ, FIN, J, GB
36 Nicholai Georgiou (Pirelli Star Driver) HKJ, NZ, FIN, D, F, GB
37 Peter Horsey (Pirelli Star Driver) FIN, D, F, GB
38 Hayden Paddon (Pirelli Star Driver) NZ, FIN, D, J, M, GB
39 Alex Raschi (Pirelli Star Driver) FIN, D, F, GB
40 Ott Tanaka (Pirelli Star Driver) FIN, D, F, GB
41 Fabio Frisiero (Hawk Racing Club) S, MEX, NZ, FIN, F, GB
42 Miguel Angel Baldoni (pryw.) MEX, NZ, FIN, J, GB
43 Reijo Juhani Muhonen (pryw.) S, HKJ, FIN, D, J, GB
44 Paulo Nobre (Palmeirinha Rally) S, HKJ, NZ, FIN, J, GB
45 Wang Rui (Shanghai FCACA Rally Team) HKJ, NZ, FIN, J, GB

alleskids
2nd February 2010, 18:25
The entries so far for the SWRC. A surprise from China and Finland :) . what car will Jari Ketomaa drive?
21 Martin PROKOP Czech Ford National Team
22 Nasser AL-ATTIYAH Barwa World Rally Team
23 Michal KOSCIUSZKO Dynamic World Rally Team
24 Patrik SANDELL Red Bull Rally Team
25 Eyvind BRYNILDSEN Skoda - René Georges Rally Sport
26 Bernardo Rodrigues Tomas SOUSA Team Ford / Quinta do Lorde
27 Janne TUOHINO Janpro
28 Xevi PONS Nupel Global Racing
29 Jari KETOMAA Shanghai FCACA Rally team (HKJ, NZl, Por, Jap, Fra, GB)
30 Albert LLOVERA MASSANA Albert LLOVERA MASSANA (Mex, NZl, Por, SF, Fra, GB)

http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/swrc_2010.aspx

ZequeArgentina
2nd February 2010, 18:30
Is it still allowed to enter PWRC with a S2000 car?
For first time I am so confussed with "World Championships"

alleskids
2nd February 2010, 18:38
No. S2000 is banned from PWRC
PWRC is only Goup N (Mitsubishi vs Subaru)
World Cup (for teams)and SWRC (drivers) is for S2000 (Ford vs Skoda)

ProRally
2nd February 2010, 18:41
Any news what Jari Ketomaa will drive as S2000 car ?

Tomi
2nd February 2010, 18:45
Well done Ketomaa :) it will be fun to watch.

ZequeArgentina
2nd February 2010, 18:55
Ott Tanak is Pirelli PWRC driver (4 events), for being able to score in PWRC he needs at least 6 rounds.

I found him in Sweden entry list with an Imprezza N4, why don´t he register this rally as selected for PWRC, and one oher raly and that is all!

N.O.T
2nd February 2010, 19:23
the Pwrc can be officially named the tomato can championship...

The Swrc has some entries that will give quality like Ketomaa and sandell...but still nothing spectacular or with any kind of future.

alleskids
2nd February 2010, 19:39
The Swrc has some entries that will give quality like Ketomaa and sandell...but still nothing spectacular or with any kind of future.

... Prokop
... Brynildsen
....Kosiuszko
....Mikkelsen coming close to entering
....Ostberg coming close to entering

Iskald
2nd February 2010, 20:15
the Pwrc can be officially named the tomato can championship...

The Swrc has some entries that will give quality like Ketomaa and sandell...but still nothing spectacular or with any kind of future.

You miss all the good quality and spectacular greek drivers with a great future in rallying, N.O.T.?

Pity the rest of us still think that the names alleskids are mentioning, actually are quite good. But then again, we are some real dummies, aren`t we. ;)

alleskids
2nd February 2010, 20:27
@Isakld, you probarly are refering to the very talented Greek drivers Sirtaki and Ouzo :) . They score heavily in Greece. Unluckely they depress the others

Iskald
2nd February 2010, 20:48
@Isakld, you probarly are refering to the very talented Greek drivers Sirtaki and Ouzo :) . They score heavily in Greece. Unluckely they depress the others

Oh, that explains why our friend N.O.T. is so totally depressing all the time.

bluuford
2nd February 2010, 22:11
Ott Tanak is Pirelli PWRC driver (4 events), for being able to score in PWRC he needs at least 6 rounds.

I found him in Sweden entry list with an Imprezza N4, why don´t he register this rally as selected for PWRC, and one oher raly and that is all!

He has no point to nominate Sweden. He needs two events outside Europe. Other PSD events are all in Europe. So, he can choose from Jordan, NZ, or Japan. But still, all depends on money :-)

EavesFan09
3rd February 2010, 10:36
FIA announced an updated list of applications PCWRC. The list grew to 16 drivers, including five Pirelli Star drivers. Nick Georgiou and Hayden Paddon expanded program of six races from the fund Pirelli, a further two rounds of PCWRC.

PCWRC REGISTRATION LIST 2010
31 Armindo Araujo (Ralliart Italy) S, MEX, HKJ, D, F, GB
32 Toshi Arai (Subaru Team Arai) MEX, NZ, D, J, M, GB
33 Gianluca Linari (pryw.) S, MEX, HKJ, NZ, J, F
34 Martin Semerád (Czech National Team) S, HKJ, NZ, FIN, D, GB
35 Gabor Mayer (Hungary Gaboko ASE) MEX, HKJ, NZ, FIN, J, GB
36 Nicholai Georgiou (Pirelli Star Driver) HKJ, NZ, FIN, D, F, GB
37 Peter Horsey (Pirelli Star Driver) FIN, D, F, GB
38 Hayden Paddon (Pirelli Star Driver) NZ, FIN, D, J, M, GB
39 Alex Raschi (Pirelli Star Driver) FIN, D, F, GB
40 Ott Tanaka (Pirelli Star Driver) FIN, D, F, GB
41 Fabio Frisiero (Hawk Racing Club) S, MEX, NZ, FIN, F, GB
42 Miguel Angel Baldoni (pryw.) MEX, NZ, FIN, J, GB
43 Reijo Juhani Muhonen (pryw.) S, HKJ, FIN, D, J, GB
44 Paulo Nobre (Palmeirinha Rally) S, HKJ, NZ, FIN, J, GB
45 Wang Rui (Shanghai FCACA Rally Team) HKJ, NZ, FIN, J, GB

About Baldoni, who is his co-driver and what is his car? I assume it is either and impreza or Evo IX.

Regarding Reijo Muhonen, I thought he was racing for RR Racing. What is pryw?

Who is Wang's co-driver and again I assume the car is either an Impreza or an Evo IX.

Also, what rounds is Joakim Nyman and Patrik Flodin doing?

On a final note you can add Anders Grondal (Anders Grondal Rally Team) and he will be doing Sweden, New Zealand, Finland, Japan, France and Great Britan. Though I don't know who the co-driver is or the car they will be running.

EavesFan09
3rd February 2010, 10:39
The entries so far for the SWRC. A surprise from China and Finland :) . what car will Jari Ketomaa drive?
21 Martin PROKOP Czech Ford National Team
22 Nasser AL-ATTIYAH Barwa World Rally Team
23 Michal KOSCIUSZKO Dynamic World Rally Team
24 Patrik SANDELL Red Bull Rally Team
25 Eyvind BRYNILDSEN Skoda - René Georges Rally Sport
26 Bernardo Rodrigues Tomas SOUSA Team Ford / Quinta do Lorde
27 Janne TUOHINO Janpro
28 Xevi PONS Nupel Global Racing
29 Jari KETOMAA Shanghai FCACA Rally team (HKJ, NZl, Por, Jap, Fra, GB)
30 Albert LLOVERA MASSANA Albert LLOVERA MASSANA (Mex, NZl, Por, SF, Fra, GB)

http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2010/Pages/swrc_2010.aspx

Just two points. Who is Alberts codriver and what will Jari and Albert they be running? Obviously it is either a Fabia or a Fiesta.

tolis
3rd February 2010, 10:51
Llovera's car will be a Fiat Grande Punto S2000. Pryw means his own private team. Grondal's car will be an Impreza Sti. That's all I know... ;)

PLuto
3rd February 2010, 11:38
Albert's codriver is usually Borja Rozada. He will use for sure Fiat. According to Ketomaa, he can use something from Skoda, Ford or Peugeot.

Iskald
3rd February 2010, 12:13
On a final note you can add Anders Grondal (Anders Grondal Rally Team) and he will be doing Sweden, New Zealand, Finland, Japan, France and Great Britan. Though I don't know who the co-driver is or the car they will be running.

Anders Grøndal will run a new Impreza N14 2010 (as I understand, Prodrive-built). Co- driver is the "lovely Veronica" (quoting Colin Clark), i.e. Veronica Engan. She is the girlfriend of Mads Østberg, but has chosen to go rallying with Anders. (Probably a very smart decision....) ;)

Viking
3rd February 2010, 12:28
Grøndals Subaru N2010 will be run in joint venture Prodrive/Grøndal as an Prodrive "demo car". Good for him :up:

EavesFan09
3rd February 2010, 13:15
Will Jari Ketomaa's co-driver be Mikka Tesikonen?

Also, regarding the roster in the WRC, obviously we have Citroen, Citroen Junior, BP Ford Abu Dhabi, Stobart VKM Motorsport, Monster World Rally Team, Van Merkesteijn Motorsport, Petter Solberg World Rally Team and Adapta World Rally Team and Munchis World Rally Team, but what about Ipatec? I know Van Merkesteijn and Ipatec joined forces for Portugal last year because of a Yahoo! search I have found when searching for Ipatec.

MartijnS
3rd February 2010, 13:52
What do you wanna know?
This is their website: http://www.ipatec-racing.nl/

ProRally
3rd February 2010, 14:59
Albert's codriver is usually Borja Rozada. He will use for sure Fiat. According to Ketomaa, he can use something from Skoda, Ford or Peugeot.

Albert has to use his Fiat Punto S2000, it is unique car in the world... (adapted with everything on the steering wheel) even his recce car is like that.
It is his usual team from Spain who runs the car

ZequeArgentina
3rd February 2010, 15:49
[quote="EavesFan09"]About Baldoni, who is his co-driver and what is his car? I assume it is either and impreza or Evo IX.[quote]


Baldoni will be co-driven by Jorge Diaz (Arg), who has replaced Perez Companc as codriving Vilagra in theMnchis in some rallies.

He will use Mitsubishi, either Evo X o IV, and from different teams.
he will use a VRS (Villagra team) AR made car in Mexico, and probable CALM (spanish)team in europe, but is stil under negotiations with other teams.

EavesFan09
4th February 2010, 10:32
He will use Mitsubishi, either Evo X o IV, and from different teams.
he will use a VRS (Villagra team) AR made car in Mexico, and probable CALM (spanish)team in europe, but is stil under negotiations with other teams.

What type of Evo do you reckon he could for VRS in Mexico ald CALM for Germany, Britain, Finland and Portugal? I see the X.

Though I would rule out the IX because Cemerand, Frisiero, Flodin and Nyman will all be racing the IX.

Tomi
4th February 2010, 11:25
[quote="EavesFan09"]Will Jari Ketomaa's co-driver be Mikka Tesikonen?/QUOTE]
Ketomaa will announce soon as he get permission from the team, propably next week.

ZequeArgentina
4th February 2010, 13:05
What type of Evo do you reckon he could for VRS in Mexico ald CALM for Germany, Britain, Finland and Portugal? I see the X.

Though I would rule out the IX because Cemerand, Frisiero, Flodin and Nyman will all be racing the IX.

He runs an EVO X form VRS for the Agentinean Championship, but the first round is too close to Mexico (shared rally with IRC Argentina),do not know if he will send "his" Evo X to Mexico, and run another EVO IX or X in Argentina, or the other way round.
Villagra team has some 5 or 6 EVO X, but all of them has drivers, he has spare EVO IX.

Langdale Forest
5th February 2010, 20:13
the Pwrc can be officially named the tomato can championship...



Well it is boring as the champions don't go on any further so I guess you could call it that then.

alleskids
19th February 2010, 18:12
From Rally Turkey on Dennis Kuiper will drive with navigator Frederic Miclotte in the rest of the 2010 WRC, with the exception of Rally New Zealand. Miclotte is able to combinate this programe with Loix' IRC programe.
http://www.therallysite.com/

alleskids
19th February 2010, 18:31
From Rally Turkey on Dennis Kuiper will drive with navigator Frederic Miclotte in the rest of the 2010 WRC, with the exception of Rally New Zealand. Miclotte is able to combinate this programe with Loix' IRC programe.

http://www.therallysite.com/
"Frederic Miclotte toonde zich bescheiden en vertelde over zijn bewondering voor de echte WK piloten die vergeleken met de Nederlandse equipes ongeveer een 3 tellen per kilometer sneller waren. Op de vraag over z'n ervaringen in Zweden, waar ook Eddy Chevaillier zojuist van was teruggekeerd, meldde hij dat het in sneeuw rijden daar weer heel wat anders was dan als een jaar geleden in Noorwegen. Daarnaast liet hij los samen met Dennis met ingang van de Rally van Turkije, alle wedstrijden van de WRC kalender te zullen rijden, uitgezonderd de Rally van Nieuw Zeeland. Hij kon die kalender prima combineren met die van Freddie Loix, met wie hij aan het IRC zal deelnemen".