Swedish Rally 2010

[noel157]

dont know if this have been mentioned before but Ramona and Miriam wont be at SS8 due a broken rear axle.

They will restart tomorrow.

http://www.sr.se/sida/gruppsida.aspx?programid=2505&grupp=10239&artikel=3440014

About to ask that. I see they are being towed in to service. Good news if they can get out tomorrow. Was the axle breakage caused by an accident or just mechanical bad luck?

[Langdale Forest]

What does everyone think will happen tomorrow?

Can Loeb take the lead or not?

[Ghostwalker]

About to ask that. I see they are being towed in to service. Good news if they can get out tomorrow. Was the axle breakage caused by an accident or just mechanical bad luck?

i'm not sure they said they noticed it when they drove away
after the last service that there wasn't something right with the car
but i don't know if they were sure either what caused it.

[noel157]

i'm not sure they said they noticed it when they drove away
after the last service that there wasn't something right with the car
but i don't know if they were sure either what caused it.

Ok, many thanks.

[pettersolberg29]

No doubt he is a nice lad but under what conditions could he challenge for a podium?

I don't know - maybe at GB if Loeb, Mikko, and one of Sordo, JML or Petter hits trouble. Just saying that he's not a million miles off, unlike Al-Qassami, Rautenbach, Kimi (at the moment).

[White Sauron]

Sorry to all Latvala fans, but Ford needs to change their second driver: this one is neither fast now, nor reliable, nor consistent.

[Langdale Forest]

He is fast, but Malcolm Wilson is telling him to Finish the rallies.

[Langdale Forest]

N.O.T - When you can't even spell Kimi's first name then you are the one with problems ;) His second name is admittedly tough, but Kimi is only 4 letters and only 3 different letters.

Sometimes you need to be very carefull when spelling names, otherwise you can change the meaning. :uhoh:

I got caught out by this a few years ago.

[Doon]

He is fast, but Malcolm Wilson is telling him to Finish the rallies.

Yes but finish infront of Sordo, which so far he's isn't doing. I think he is very quick but he takes risks, that usually dont go his way, when he is quick. I dont think he has been the same since the Poland incident, I just hope he gets the speed back very soon. Nobody can deny he has the pace to win!

[White Sauron]

He is fast, but Malcolm Wilson is telling him to Finish the rallies.

In other words, he can't finish rallies while being fast. Like Mikko and Sebastien do.

[Langdale Forest]

Last Summer, I would rather have had Petter Solberg in the team, but I am starting to wonder if he has lost some of his speed now.

Getting 4th is much better than crashing though.

[rv]

For them who are blaming Kimi, look at this link http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?event=80&stage=1386&driver=4674 how the best winner ever did Rally of Sweden in WRC machinery.
And stop crying like kids for candy if Kimi is not speaking after stage.

[Ghostwalker]

apparently Petters rear wing did not fell off by its own when Petter went off at SS5 LIkenäs 2.
According to Petters team, the rear wing was a bit loose after his off
and some a**hole simply pulled it off from Petters car and starting to runaway
with it.
Fortunately some other spectators ran after him and managed to take the spoiler from the idiot and
the spoiler was brought back to petter in an undamaged condition.


http://www.sr.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=2505&artikel=3440056

[pettersolberg29]

rv - I did look, and I saw two things. Firstly, he finished the event without crashing. Secondly he showed incredible potential with a top 3 and a top 5 stage time. Kimi has achieved neither of these, and his times weren't good on any stage.

[Doon]

For them who are blaming Kimi, look at this link http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?event=80&stage=1386&driver=4674 how the best winner ever did Rally of Sweden in WRC machinery.
And stop crying like kids for candy if Kimi is not speaking after stage.

That was Seb's 1st snow rally. He did some good times at the end, and there were 3 times as may drivers who could have won that rally. Plus he went off. Kimi would have been way down in 2002, you have to remember that the amount of quality drivers and works teams is far less now.

[Doon]

Just heard on Rally Radio Raikkonen not speaking to Colin. What a tw*t!! It's not WRR's fault he can drive a rally car. Moody bugger....even Rossi (who is a bigger star and probably slower) would always chat.

[Ucci]

rv - I did look, and I saw two things. Firstly, he finished the event without crashing. Secondly he showed incredible potential with a top 3 and a top 5 stage time. Kimi has achieved neither of these, and his times weren't good on any stage.
But Loeb drove before Sweden 2002 a lots of rallies with other cars(Xsara kit-car, Toyota Corolla WRC, Saxo S1600...), for Kimi this is yust the sixth rally in his life, only second with WRC car....so, for me nothing to criticize over Kimi's performance. And we still have Saturday and Sunday....

[rv]

Seb in 2002 already have at least 3 years rally experience, for Kimi now just 6th rally.
I think that is to early to ask for him some good results - time will show :)
peace

[ARF]

Humble opinion. Just by looking at two onboards available (shakedown and ss2), Kimi needs a change in his pacenotes. First, he's got the same issue as Latvala had - pacenotes are read too monotonously and therefore, it's difficult to drive fast. Too much useless information there also.
If he could simplify them and Kaj could read them like Timo - it would help much.
Also, take your left foot off the brake pedal!!!

[pettersolberg29]

Seb in 2002 already have at least 3 years rally experience, for Kimi now just 6th rally.
I think that is to early to ask for him some good results - time will show :)
peace

I agree entirely. Kimi wasn't awful - just a bit lower than I personally expected. Long term he has a good chance to compete in the higher points, but this rally has not been impressive, especially bearing in mind that this is the surface he has most experience with.

[alterdaxter]

For them who are blaming Kimi, look at this link http://www.ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?event=80&stage=1386&driver=4674 how the best winner ever did Rally of Sweden in WRC machinery.
And stop crying like kids for candy if Kimi is not speaking after stage.

you'd better also take a look at this... http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?event=80

[rv]

And what to tell to Colin? Round & black tires?
People attitude for "stars" (made by journalists) are phenomenal, let him alone, he is doing his job.

[Mirek]

Seb in 2002 already have at least 3 years rally experience, for Kimi now just 6th rally.
I think that is to early to ask for him some good results - time will show :)
peace

On the other hand it's Kimi's 3rd snow rally while 2002 was Seb's first. And moreover there were 34 WRC cars very mostly very capable drivers... And to let a comment at stage finish is just polite.

[rv]

Experience :) F1 on snow track? :)

[Tomi]

And what to tell to Colin? Round & black tires?
People attitude for "stars" (made by journalists) are phenomenal, let him alone, he is doing his job.

i agree, if he dont have anything new to say, why bother, for sure the colin guy have nothing new to ask.

[Ghostwalker]

Experience :) F1 on snow track? :)

you mean like this?

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/139906/mclaren_f1_in_snow/

[pettersolberg29]

SSS started - Mikko loses a quarter of his lead! Only 2s though. I assume it's in the same order as every other stage today rather than yesterdays SSS.

[Doon]

you'd better also take a look at this... http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?event=80

Yeh look at the quality of drivers that finished infront of him!

[pettersolberg29]

Can't be same order as rest of the day - no Henning with Petter?

[rv]

look at sec per km
At my post Im not blaming Seb for his perfomance at these days, just want to make attention that beginning is always hard. You should train a lot to get good results.
take it all easy friends!

[Hartusvuori]

Jukka Ketomäki who lead "the traditional N4" at mid-day retired due to loosing his breaks some 15 kms into stage SS5. He choosed not to superrally tomorrow.

[Viking]

to top it all Henning has got a 30sec pen, "3 M LATE AT TC 7C"

[Mirek]

Jukka Ketomäki who lead "the traditional N4" at mid-day retired due to loosing his breaks some 15 kms into stage SS5. He choosed not to superrally tomorrow.

Thank You

[hari]

Some images from today:
http://www.ir7.at/fotosschweden2010d.html

http://www.ir7.at/newsimg/sweakt2.jpg

[jonas_mcrae]

you'd better also take a look at this... http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?event=80

good times...

[Langdale Forest]

Is there a live Super special stage tonight?

[Hartusvuori]

Is there a live Super special stage tonight?

There were...

[Langdale Forest]

How long ago?

[Hartusvuori]

This is so good that it needs double-posting:

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2010/881940.jpg

Looks like I'm turning into a Kimi fan in some perverse manner. It's just so captivating to think how short the trip is from Monaco to Karlstad. He looks like a boy building a jump, but instead of Stiga sledge he's having something the other kids on the block does not have. Let's enjoy this while it lasts: when he finds a comfort zone at around 1,2s/km for the rest of the season there's not much to write about.

[noel157]

How long ago?

A little while ago.

[Hartusvuori]

Few captured screens from Solberg's bigger off (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/02/1055650), last picture being Östberg at the same hole. MTV3's videos need paid registration, and haven't yet found them from the YouTube.

[Jafry]

Photos from 1st leg (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=651&fseason=2010) ;)

[serial jeff]

Not impressed by Kimi's attitude. People laugh it off as 'oh well, he's a huge F1 star so he doesn't have to talk with us peasants' but IMO that is wrong. WRC drivers should talk to the press at the end of the stage - it's the unwritten rule. He's doing nothing to endear himself to the rally public.

Maybe but in fairness, if I had to dig my car out of a giant snowbank with a tiny shovel while TV people just stood there filming instead of helping, I'd be pretty grouchy too. We'll have to give him a chance over the season.

[Buzz Lightyear]

I cant believe people are so surprised by PG Andersson. What has Brynildsen ever done against strong opposition? Mikkelson... the jury is out, im my eyes he has never done anything to impress me. Sandell was a whipping boy in JWRC the last time PG raced him. PG is driving the Skoda how it should be driven.

[Barreis]

Where's TV show?

[Langdale Forest]

Few captured screens from Solberg's bigger off (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2010/02/1055650), last picture being Östberg at the same hole. MTV3's videos need paid registration, and haven't yet found them from the YouTube.

Looks like quite a big off.

[Ondra WRC]

What happened Kresta in SSS? :confused:

[Hipo1990]

http://wrc.mirafiori.com/wrc_2010/ yeah

[Langdale Forest]

The day 1 videos are now on wrc.com

[jonkka]

Just heard on Rally Radio Raikkonen not speaking to Colin. What a tw*t!! It's not WRR's fault he can drive a rally car. Moody bugger....even Rossi (who is a bigger star and probably slower) would always chat.

Duval was a silent one too...

[6789]

http://wrc.mirafiori.com/wrc_2010/ yeah
Thanks alot, keep the updates coming :)

[Langdale Forest]

Duval was a silent one too...

I remember a few year ago that Petter did not want to talk.

[Iskald]

He's alcoholic in making.

Another Nykänen or Myllylä?
You finns have a sort of weird tradition with sport stars turning into alcoholics and wife-beaters.

Btw. Kimi`s attitude towards media and rally radio doesn`t surprise me one bit. Its just part of the picture.

[Wim_Impreza]

Harri Olli is there too.

To tolis11: René Kuipers got stuck in a snowbank in SS6 and lost 20 minutes. Peter van Merksteijn sr. was in a snowback in SS3 and lost 5 minutes.

[tolis]

Harri Olli is there too.

To tolis11: René Kuipers got stuck in a snowbank in SS6 and lost 20 minutes. Peter van Merksteijn sr. was in a snowback in SS3 and lost 5 minutes.
Thanks for the info Wim!!! ;) It seems that all the Dutch crews got stuck in snowbanks... :p

[ShiftingGears]

In other words, he can't finish rallies while being fast. Like Mikko and Sebastien do.

Yep. I hoped at one stage that he would stop crashing while retaining his speed. That's not going to happen.

[pettersolberg29]

Whom shall take his mantle at Ford though?

p.s. 5,000 posts to Mr.Squirrel. Well done.

[Julle69]

Experience :) F1 on snow track? :)
Kimi's 6th rally and 4th on the snow. That's why the surface he's most experienced with rally car.

[ARF]

Another Nykänen or Myllylä?
You finns have a sort of weird tradition with sport stars turning into alcoholics and wife-beaters.

Btw. Kimi`s attitude towards media and rally radio doesn`t surprise me one bit. Its just part of the picture.

better to be silent than a clown..

[White Sauron]

Whom shall take his mantle at Ford though?


PG Andersson
D Sordo (Ogier is almost certain to go to the works team)
C Atkinson
J Nikkara
O Tanak
A Mikkelsen

With the same level of reliability (rate of retirements) I expect them to finish higher than Latvala

[Langdale Forest]

I think Mikklesen will be a bit like JML, I have never heard of Mr. O Tanak before so I don't think he should be in a Ford works team.

[Tomi]

Btw. Kimi`s attitude towards media and rally radio doesn`t surprise me one bit. Its just part of the picture.

What picture?

[N.O.T]

I think the norwegians see a fallen hero and they jump into making this mikkelsen kid the new solberg....|Its indeed sad to see solberg in that state and to be honest its good if he cancels his program this year to save himself from all the noise and live on his accomplishments which i think are plenty and very well documented

As for mikkelsen i see absolutely nothing other than a rich boy having fun with daddys money for the moment.

Can someone tell this BOUDICA person to inform us about Kimmi ??? i think he went to the bathroom 3 times this day and we don;t have a single report....come on boudica we want your walls of text and of course some comments from the PR he uses as co-driver.....also ask this co-driver if he feels he has a future rally star in his hands you know like the countless winningless stars he co-drove for...like Barratt

[Raini]

I think Mikklesen will be a bit like JML, I have never heard of Mr. O Tanak before so I don't think he should be in a Ford works team.

Tänak showed today very good peace with ordinary Gr. N car, setting the same times with S2000s.

Pirelli Star Driver winner - the others had no chance when to see the times.

Also M. Märtin is helping him a lot.

He is very good talented, but time shows how he will do in world rallying.
But he has definetly very good capabilities in order to be world class driver.

Unfortunately there are many talented drivers sitting at home because lack of funds.

[Boudica]

Can someone tell this BOUDICA person to inform us about Kimmi ??? i think he went to the bathroom 3 times this day and we don;t have a single report....come on boudica we want your walls of text and of course some comments from the PR he uses as co-driver.....also ask this co-driver if he feels he has a future rally star in his hands you know like the countless winningless stars he co-drove for...like Barratt

It is a she. :)

Okay, how about this, Kimi having some fun in the snow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRpfOn5tIiE

[bluuford]

I think Mikklesen will be a bit like JML, I have never heard of Mr. O Tanak before so I don't think he should be in a Ford works team.
I have one very nice experience with Tänak. Last year in South-Estonian rally spectators were cheering for "0" cars and watching and saying, vow, they are very quick. And the came Tänak with his GrN Subaru and passed us with incredible speed. Everybody (200-300 people) were quiet for nearly 10 seconds. They even forgot their mouths opened. This guy is really fast and determined. He was leading traditional GrN class today until he got stuck in snow for some minutes. And his starting position was very bad for today (39th starter). And it is his first ever Rally Sweden.

He won all rounds in Estonia last year (became champion for second year in a row) and one the first round this year and has made bigger mistake (small roll) only once in three years so far (and I saw it!), it was extremely difficult place where 5 cars from top 8 went off (after nearly 1 km straight there was downhill section, the road was drying. So it was solid bottom and very thin layer of loose gravel on top of it. an there was hard right going into hard left).

You can see it from here: If you dont want to watch the whole video, start from 4:20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaceGwLCYok

[N.O.T]

It is a she. :)

Okay, how about this, Kimi having some fun in the snow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRpfOn5tIiE


i prefer those bullet point remarks from his PR co-driver.

[VFTS]

As for mikkelsen i see absolutely nothing other than a rich boy having fun with daddys money for the moment.



You dont know what youre talking about!

Mikkelsen are having different investors and sponsors to help him in his career than his dad.

In 2009 and 2010 he did not recieve any moneyhelp from his father!

[Fiorio]

sorry, you now one site like http://www.ewrc-results.com/ but in english, i want see what said in the end of stage.

[N.O.T]

www.rally.cz (http://www.rally.cz)

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=13

[RS]

sorry, you now one site like http://www.ewrc-results.com/ but in english, i want see what said in the end of stage.

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky

[Fiorio]

www.rally.cz (http://www.rally.cz)

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=13

Ya, its this site....you are good man

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus Grönholm pics : http://bit.ly/bktWQ1

[bowler]

more than 1300 posts in one day.

Is this a record for a Rally Event Thread?

[tolis]

Not 1300 posts in one day...The first post was in 3rd August 2009... :P

[Tomi]

PG Andersson
D Sordo (Ogier is almost certain to go to the works team)
C Atkinson
J Nikkara
O Tanak
A Mikkelsen

With the same level of reliability (rate of retirements) I expect them to finish higher than Latvala

Maybe, but you propably never will find out if that's the case.

[Northern Monkey]

What happened to Thermann? Wasn't he meant to be in a Stobart Focus but heard no mention of him. Thought the idea was for him to learn from Gronholm.

[eloyf1]

I have one very nice experience with Tänak. Last year in South-Estonian rally spectators were cheering for "0" cars and watching and saying, vow, they are very quick. And the came Tänak with his GrN Subaru and passed us with incredible speed. Everybody (200-300 people) were quiet for nearly 10 seconds. They even forgot their mouths opened.
Quite the same for me. Last year, in Rally Portugal, in Loulé's jump, he flew more than any WRC... some thought he was driving a S14 :D

[Boudica]

i prefer those bullet point remarks from his PR co-driver.

If you prefer those reports you will have to wait a bit, following rally is almost like a full time job, I am slowly discovering. All of the Kimi fans are exhausted, after day one!

But you don't have to be perturbed, I will find something especially for you NOT, I am glad to see you are enjoying them so much. ;)

[kolvas]

why are they complaining about the roads?when I look on the TV it looks pretty fine to me I´ve been competing in vorse conditions and I believe that Loeb and the others have to.

well, I just put my hopes to PG

[tmx]

Sorry to all Latvala fans, but Ford needs to change their second driver: this one is neither fast now, nor reliable, nor consistent.

Well if you are not a fan, hopefully you won't have to remind us every single rally when he isn't leading. He stated his objected is not to win, but support Mikko so currently he is doing what his boss told him. Only 21 seconds behind Sordo, he improved his setup today, so I expected he should catch and pass Sordo during the next two day.

[noel157]

Thanks Mr Výsledky (John V) for the S-WRC filter. Works very well, again thanks.

[dimviii]

good moooorning guyssss!! :D

how much minutes to the start?

[rp]

Hirvonen on the road. Go Mikko!

[jonkka]

It's on!

[jonkka]

And Loeb is faster

[rp]

not anymore. Now Mikko is faster...

[jonkka]

Good...

[Langdale Forest]

Good morning everybody!

[Finni2]

Hirvonen is driving like a hero :)

[jonkka]

And faster still... JML not quite yet challenging Sordo though...

[muscrae]

Good morning everybody...

[dimviii]

Mikko on charge!!

[darkstar]

good morning! what did mikko get for breakfast?? very good times!

[Langdale Forest]

What was the reason for Jukka KETOMÄKI's retirement?

[rp]

What was the reason for Jukka KETOMÄKI's retirement?

Brakes...

[Langdale Forest]

Will he not be in SupeRally?

[Langdale Forest]

Loeb has finished.

[darkstar]

the empire strikes back! great fight.

[Langdale Forest]

Lots of gravel on the stage,

[Langdale Forest]

Ogier has lost alot of time on the second split.

[rp]

Will he not be in SupeRally?

I think he will not compete...

[jonkka]

Mikko is doing great but JML is disappointing...

[darkstar]

jml wont come any closer to sordo with that effort...

[Langdale Forest]

+1

Gronholm has started.

[bluuford]

I have noticed that very often Mikko is slower at the start and in short stages. Seems that Ford is struggling a lot at the start of the stages.

[Langdale Forest]

Ogier has lost his rear WING, that explains his time loss.

[jonkka]

Ogier has lost his rear WING, that explains his time loss.

If so, Henning is surprisingly slow behind him...

[Langdale Forest]

The wing loss seems unusual.

[Langdale Forest]

If so, Henning is surprisingly slow behind him...

Would Henning catch him?

[jonkka]

Would Henning catch him?

How do you mean? Ordinarily or in this case? I don't think neither, Ogi is so good.

[Finni2]

Grönholm and Solberg slow as hell. Maybe the road getting worse with drivers but it also seems that it's generation change.

[Langdale Forest]

Prehaps Solberg is a 'has been' after all.

[Finni2]

Mikko is doing great but JML is disappointing...

When was the last time that Latvala was genuinely on par with Loeb with normal road-position? Maybe Mexico 2008. For instance last year in rally Norway Latvala was one minute off the pace.

[rp]

Grönholm and Solberg slow as hell. Maybe the road getting worse with drivers but it also seems that it's generation change.

Marcus is still quicker than the other drivers behind the top 4. Not so bad if you have done nordic skiing more than driving a rally car during the last couple of years...

[jonkka]

When was the last time that Latvala was genuinely on par with Loeb with normal road-position?

I didn't say it but I was comparing JML to Sordo, whom he should be beating. And should be able to, as well.

[Langdale Forest]

Being 1st on the road today would be an advantage.

[John V]

Thanks Mr Výsledky (John V) for the S-WRC filter. Works very well, again thanks.
You're welcome, just we were working on it bit under pressure, but seems everything is working fine. Our programmer did good work ;)

[jonkka]

Next up is Marcus' favourite - his restaurant's namesake...

[dimviii]

I have noticed that very often Mikko is slower at the start and in short stages. Seems that Ford is struggling a lot at the start of the stages.

that stage had a lot of gravel in the start.Maybe Mikko wanted to save the spikes for having grip advantage later on stage.

[Finni2]

I didn't say it but I was comparing JML to Sordo, whom he should be beating. And should be able to, as well.

Sordo has upped his level remarkably, so much that JML would need to improve from his normal pace in order to beat Dani. There is not many rally in history wehre Latvala has been as fast as Dani now.

[Langdale Forest]

Prehaps his confidence has been damaged by all those crashes he had at the start of last year,

[Langdale Forest]

when is the next stage on?

[bluuford]

in 53 minutes

[Tomi]

Marcus is still quicker than the other drivers behind the top 4. Not so bad if you have done nordic skiing more than driving a rally car during the last couple of years...

A bit surprising really, the brake has been that long.

[ShiftingGears]

According to Autosport TV, Matt Wilson is Australian. Nice fact-checking.

[Langdale Forest]

He is English!

[ShiftingGears]

He is English!

Yes he is.

[dimviii]

He is English!

are you sure????

[Langdale Forest]

100% sure.

[dimviii]

100% sure.

good! :D

[WRCfan]

I heard he is from Antarctica and was raised by pengiuns...

[Langdale Forest]

Whoever said that about Wilson knows nothing about the WRC.

[Langdale Forest]

I heard he is from Antarctica and was raised by pengiuns...

http://www.readthesmiths.com/articles/Images/Humor/Fail/1FAIL.jpg

[satukata]

Marcus Grönholm said that maybe first on the road is better place to drive than behind.

Road is clean for first car, when the cars hit snowbanks there will be more snow on the road for the other cars..

[Viking]

I heard Crocodile Dundee was his father...

[Langdale Forest]

I heard Crocodile Dundee was his father...

http://writtenwyrdd.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54ef251c5883301156f168d04970c-320wi

[EavesFan09]

Morning all. Just woke. So far so good for the reliability of the BP Abu Dhabi For Focuses according to the rearly report on wrc.com. Hirvonen almost doubled his lead.

[J.Lindstroem]

Whoever said that about Wilson knows nothing about the WRC.

or nothing about matthew wilson.

[Langdale Forest]

+1

[J.Lindstroem]

+1

haha ;)

[Gard]

Lets see if Mikkelsen can catch PG. My 2 favourite guys in rally. Mikkelsen has better road position today and they are very close to Kimi's times now

[EavesFan09]

Finished the stage 13th so how did PGA fare? Any issues?

[WRCfan]

Whoever said that about Wilson knows nothing about the WRC.

You are nothing short of dripfed...

[EavesFan09]

You are nothing short of dripfed...

Huh?

[Viking]

I think Mikkelsen said he only got 40km test before the rally, he will be faster when he finds the limit of the car.

[Langdale Forest]

You are nothing short of dripfed...

hmm :mad:

[White Sauron]

I think Mikkelsen said he only got 40km test before the rally, he will be faster when he finds the limit of the car.

I think so to, he's got much potential. I just hope he won't try to find this limit by going off...

[WRCfan]

hmm :mad:

No need to get steamed over it. We all know Matt wasn't raised by penguins.

[Iskald]

Lets see if Mikkelsen can catch PG. My 2 favourite guys in rally. Mikkelsen has better road position today and they are very close to Kimi's times now

Wrc.com is absolutely denying the existence of Andreas Mikkelsen. In their summary of day one they are writing that PG Andersson did a "clean sweep" of the first day stages. In reality Andreas Mikkelsen beat PG on one stage. The summary article actually hasn`t got a mention of Andreas Mikkelsen at all.

But now Andreas has started the day with beating PG on the first stage (and passed Tuohino in the overall standings). Lets see if wrc.com picks up that fact, or if they still continue to ignore him. ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

No point of posting pictures in the threads, regardless if it's a fail or not, Just discuss the rally event itself please.

[Langdale Forest]

What about rally pictures? ;)

[rp]

Wrc.com is absolutely denying the existence of Andreas Mikkelsen. In their summary of day one they are writing that PG Andersson did a "clean sweep" of the first day stages. In reality Andreas Mikkelsen beat PG on one stage. The summary article actually hasn`t got a mention of Andreas Mikkelsen at all.

But now Andreas has started the day with beating PG on the first stage (and passed Tuohino in the overall standings). Lets see if wrc.com picks up that fact, or if they still continue to ignore him. ;)

That´s the way when the driver is not registered to the SWRC. P-G and Sääv are wild card entries, buit Mikkelsen is not...

[jonkka]

SS10 should be underway? :eek:

[darkstar]

no splits?

[WRCfan]

Stage is delayed slightly...

[Perra71]

They said on the Swedish rallyradio that people are standing in dangerous places so the start is on hold.

[Jordib]

That´s the way when the driver is not registered to the SWRC. P-G and Sääv are wild card entries, buit Mikkelsen is not...

And also that he is going to compete in IRC this year and not in the rest of WRC. That's not good news for WRC official media and they try to ignore him...

[rp]

And also that he is going to compete in IRC this year and not in the rest of WRC. That's not good news for WRC official media and they try to ignore him...

Maybe...

[darkstar]

i bet they cancel the stage because of the spectators...

[Langdale Forest]

Unruly spectators!

[EavesFan09]

That´s the way when the driver is not registered to the SWRC. P-G and Sääv are wild card entries, buit Mikkelsen is not...

When you say wild card entries what exactly are they?

[Perra71]

Clerk of the course Mr.Klarin just said that the stage is very close to being cancelled.
The idiots have 2-3min to move there sorry asses or the stage is off :(

[bluuford]

stage is on!
edit: no iits not :-(

[Langdale Forest]

They should spray water at the spectators that are in dangerous places.

[kolvas]

When you say wild card entries what exactly are they?

Special invites from the organazier and they doesn´t pay any entry fee

[Gard]

And also that he is going to compete in IRC this year and not in the rest of WRC. That's not good news for WRC official media and they try to ignore him...

I understand that they are close to get a budget for the rest of the S-WRC season too. So it wouldn't be very productive to ignore him

[EavesFan09]

Unruly spectators!

They are respectful of rallying and will move if asked.

[kolvas]

They should spray water at the spectators that are in dangerous places.
NOOO,then the would freese into ice and wouldn´t be able to move away

[GigiGalliNo1]

They should spray water at the spectators that are in dangerous places.


This is what we don't need in the forums.

[WRCfan]

They should spray water at the spectators that are in dangerous places.

Dribble should not be allowed on the forums. This is a part of rallying, not a pleasant part but that's life.

[awake27]

Almost 30 minutes delay, must be a big problem. Probably the stage will get cancelled.

[Langdale Forest]

I think the stage is just delayed and that no more spectators are allowed in.

[EavesFan09]

They are apparently being turned away. Did I hear it right on wrc.com?

[Langdale Forest]

I heard the same on wrc.com

[Langdale Forest]

Hirvonen has a start time now.

[Perra71]

Mr. Waldegard in the 0 car has given OK to start so we should be underway shortly finaly :)

[Langdale Forest]

Another saftey car is being run through. 10 -15 minets delay possible.

[EavesFan09]

They are going to run the safety car through. What is the purpose of it? If it comes back crumpled it is unsafe? :)

[bluuford]

maximum allowed delay is 30 minutes, so the stage should strat now or never

[kolvas]

Mr. Waldegard in the 0 car has given OK to start so we should be underway shortly finaly :)

one more round with safetycar and then, hopefully they will start the stage

[EavesFan09]

I take it the safety car in the WRC is different to the safety car in F1.

[jonkka]

Ah - mr Raikkonen has brought F1 fans to this sport... Alas...

[awake27]

They are going to run the safety car through. What is the purpose of it? If it comes back crumpled it is unsafe? :)
To double check, maybe they are hidden spectators in dangerous places or those turned away, turned back...

[GigiGalliNo1]

whats on WRR now?

[bluuford]

the rule says that if the delay between competing cars or 0 cars has been more than 20 minutes, they should send anotherone

[Langdale Forest]

To double check, maybe they are hidden spectators in dangerous places or those turned away, turned back...

Some spectators might have buried themselves in the snow to avoid being seen by the saftey car! :p

[darkstar]

music atm...strange they still not cancelled it...

[Raini]

Ah - mr Raikkonen has brought F1 fans to this sport... Alas...

But these fans are used to be behind the fence :D , therefore the delay of the SS

[satukata]

whats on WRR now?

live video from ss9 just now from ramona karlssons car

http://www.sr.se/sida/default.aspx?programID=2505

[satukata]

live video from ss9 just now from ramona karlssons car

http://www.sr.se/sida/default.aspx?programID=2505

road looks good :)

[EavesFan09]

whats on WRR now?

Kylie Minogue.

[awake27]

Some spectators might have buried themselves in the snow to avoid being seen by the saftey car! :p
http://www.michelestapleton.com/winter/images/Snowman.jpg

:lol:

[jonkka]

But these fans are used to be behind the fence :D , therefore the delay of the SS

I was referring to this:


I take it the safety car in the WRC is different to the safety car in F1.

[darkstar]

Kylie Minogue.

in a strange new order-blue monday remix. but the original from new order is great. i just listen to it on youtube :D

[kolvas]

start 10:30 according swedish radio

[EavesFan09]

10:30 start time.

[darkstar]

yep, wrr says the same.

[Langdale Forest]

The delay might affect Mikko's confidence.

[pettersolberg29]

I've only just got up but did Petter say anything about SS9? He's slow even for him?

[malscar]

Ah - mr Raikkonen has brought F1 fans to this sport... Alas...

But if you teach him right, he may stay, and since we seem to be losing a lot due to the Loeb domination, it can only be good.

Be nice and treat him gently. lol

[darkstar]

hirvonen in the stage

[Raini]

road looks good :)


live video from ss9 just now from ramona karlssons car

http://www.sr.se/sida/default.aspx?programID=2505

That would be nice if pretty woman who would drive me like this at home from party. There no sex needed at all afterward :D

[jonkka]

But if you teach him right, he may stay, and since we seem to be losing a lot due to the Loeb domination, it can only be good.

Be nice and treat him gently. lol

Say what? Anything tainted by F1 cannot be cured. Only the pure will prevail!

[jonkka]

Seb has initial advantage...

[malscar]

Say what? Anything tainted by F1 cannot be cured. Only the pure will prevail!

Only Bernie and the gremlin are really tainted, the others are just blinded by the hyper go-karts.

[jonkka]

Only Bernie and the gremlin are really tainted, the others are just blinded by the hyper go-karts.

I won't comment - it's better to hide my bigotry...

[KKS]

live video from ss9 just now from ramona karlssons car

http://www.sr.se/sida/default.aspx?programID=2505

Where I can find stage results for this car? Swedish champ not display at wrc.com

[Langdale Forest]

Loeb and Sordo are faster!

[kolvas]

Where I can find stage results for this car? Swedish champ not display at wrc.com
http://193.12.114.105/rally/resultat/tavling.jsp?tavling=376

Otrimmat 2wd = Grupp N
Trimmat 2wd = Grupp A/R and national class

Otrimmat 4wd = Grupp N/S
Trimmat 4wd = Grupp A/R/S and national class

[darkstar]

loeb a little faster here.

[White Sauron]

Oh Mikko...((( Not the right time to relax now,,,

[Langdale Forest]

Latvala seems to be going slow again.

[6789]

Loeb 3.9 quicker than Mikko.. Hope Mikko can win this one, put some pressure on Loeb for the start of the season..

Whats wrong with Petter, hope he can have more luck in Mexico :)

[KKS]

http://193.12.114.105/rally/resultat/tavling.jsp?tavling=376



Thank you!

[alexlake]

loeb and mikko keeping it exciting at the top!

[awake27]

Latvala seems will threaten the top 2 only in the gravel rallies and mostly via road position-tactics.

[White Sauron]

Latvala's hugely disappointing... At his "reliable pace" he can't even beat Sordo... Pff...

[Langdale Forest]

Hope it will be like Wales.

[Langdale Forest]

Latvala's hugely disappointing... At his "reliable pace" he can't even beat Sordo... Pff...

It might also be due to the fact that Sordo is getting better.

[White Sauron]

It might also be due to the fact that Sordo is getting better.

Sure. But it just proves that Ford needs another 2nd driver. This one is neither reliable nor even fast enough now.

[John V]

I will put permanent link to http://www.vysledky-rally.cz to http://www.rallysport.info, hope it will be easier to remember for everybody ;)

[Langdale Forest]

Sure. But it just proves that Ford needs another 2nd driver. This one is neither reliable nor even fast enough now.

He did win a stage yesterday though.

Good 1st split for Gronholm.

[jonkka]

It might also be due to the fact that Sordo is getting better.

Overnight? I don't think so though I admit Sordo's grown over the past years a lot.

[awake27]

Malcolm orders to Latvala are probably so strict this year, that Jari-Matti will afraid even not to fart in order not to crash again.

[Langdale Forest]

Sordo went though a period when he kept crashing and loosing his confidence, but now he is almost winning rallies.

[satukata]

Marcus in maximum attack!!

[dimviii]

Gronholm @ Loebs pace till now! :eek:

[Langdale Forest]

Not really a suprise.

[kolvas]

We´re just in the beginning of the 2:nd day so there is a long way to go, I think that Latvala can be faster if he will be allowed.
Sordo isn´t driving bad at all, he was pretty fast in Norway too

[6789]

Gronholm @ Loebs pace till now! :eek:

Where do you get the splits from, WRC.com only has the final stage times. Thanks

[Francis44]

Petter Solberg is not that fast either, he is slower than Wilson. Probably the car got touched up last day and they haven't fixed it properly.

[Langdale Forest]

There are splits on wrc.com , but you keephaving to refresh them.

[Langdale Forest]

Petter Solberg is not that fast either, he is slower than Wilson. Probably the car got touched up last day and they haven't fixed it properly.

He also doesn't want to damage the car, so that might be a reason why he is not going that fast.

[dimviii]

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=409&season=2010&rally_id=S

[Langdale Forest]

Some problems for
P. VAN MERKSTEIJN (javascript:reCalc(13)) , very slow.

[Tomi]

lol, the tourist is starting to warm up :D , there is a difference between drivers and Drivers.

[kolvas]

He also doesn't want to damage the car, so that might be a reason why he is not going that fast.
I think it´s lack of motivation from Petter, he can´t keep up with Loeb/Hirvonen and he did some stupid mistakes

[Langdale Forest]

Are the Merjistiens tourists then?

[Langdale Forest]

I think it´s lack of motivation from Petter, he can´t keep up with Loeb/Hirvonen and he did some stupid mistakes

It is still a shame though. :(

[EavesFan09]

There are splits on wrc.com , but you keephaving to refresh them.

How are split times calculated?

[Sulland]

Marcus in maximum attack!!

He loves this stage !

[Langdale Forest]

WRR says that he has a resteraunt named after him!

[Sulland]

Are the Merjistiens tourists then?

Gentleman drivers, doing it for fun !

[Langdale Forest]

Bit like the Argentinian 'ice cream men'.


When will the next stage be on with the delay we have had this morning?

[kolvas]

WRR says that he has a resteraunt named after him!
http://www.sagen.fi/

[Tomi]

WRR says that he has a resteraunt named after him!

he has a mall, in the mall is a restaurant named after the stage Sågen.

[Langdale Forest]

Marcus Gronholm shopping Mall

[Sulland]

I think it´s lack of motivation from Petter, he can´t keep up with Loeb/Hirvonen and he did some stupid mistakes

He wanted way too much yesterday, and has tuned himself down a bit on purpose. Guess he will go faster during today.

[kolvas]

I wonder if PG is slowing down and drive more carefully? or is Tuohino driving faster?