Sorry, but ITV F1 beats BBC F1

[tommy2k8]

When it was announced in the papers that F1 was going back to the BBC, I thought 'great - no ads'. And I was right, but that's the only truly great thing about it. Whats more surprising is that my F1 fan friends are sating that as well. Their coverage isn't awful, but it's not as good as ITV's. I honestly think ITV will have it for good from 2014.

[LiamM]

The interactive service offered by the BBC beats ITV hands down I think

[tommy2k8]

I can't comment on that, because I haven't used it a lot

[LiamM]

So you've decided something about the BBC coverage without actually fully using everything they offer?

[BeansBeansBeans]

I don't agree.

The BBC coverage is leagues ahead of ITV.

[UltimateDanGTR]

Tommy2k8 i have one question for you: do you work for ITV?

[Sonic]

You beat me to it dan. I was just about to ask the same thing :D

Ignoring the ad breaks the BBC coverage beats ITV to the weeds. Pre-race is better without the duplication that we used to get on quali and race with ITV. I don't much like Legard - so I make use of the red button and listen to the five live feed instead. Plus the forum post race is excellent.

[gloomyDAY]

You beat me to it dan. I was just about to ask the same thing :D

Ignoring the ad breaks the BBC coverage beats ITV to the weeds. Pre-race is better without the duplication that we used to get on quali and race with ITV. I don't much like Legard - so I make use of the red button and listen to the five live feed instead. Plus the forum post race is excellent.Can I get that commentary online? I don't like Legard either.

[Nikki Katz]

ITV won't get F1 back unless their business model is altered significantly, such as becoming a subscription channel or getting licence fee money. There's simply no money in TV advertisement any more and ITV are axing everything that costs more than £5 to make, aside from the interactive shows as they get a significant portion of their income from the phone votes.

I like the BBC coverage in general, though I prefer James Allen to Jonathan Legard.

[ioan]

Tommy2k8 i have one question for you: do you work for ITV?


And I have a question for you: Do you work for BBC?!

[christophulus]

When it was announced in the papers that F1 was going back to the BBC, I thought 'great - no ads'. And I was right, but that's the only truly great thing about it. Whats more surprising is that my F1 fan friends are sating that as well. Their coverage isn't awful, but it's not as good as ITV's. I honestly think ITV will have it for good from 2014.

What is it about the BBC coverage that you aren't keen on? Innocent question by the way.

[LiamM]

Ignoring the ad breaks the BBC coverage beats ITV to the weeds. Pre-race is better without the duplication that we used to get on quali and race with ITV. I don't much like Legard - so I make use of the red button and listen to the five live feed instead. Plus the forum post race is excellent.

The warm-up/parade/whatever-you-want-to-call-it lap builds up more to the start on five live, what with the background music and the grid formation being read out with driver interviews, rather than Brundle and Legard droning on

[Sonic]

Can I get that commentary online? I don't like Legard either.

Should be able to get it on five live sports extra on the web.

[UltimateDanGTR]

And I have a question for you: Do you work for BBC?!

:D OK you win the witty question asking contest Ioan. But no, I dont, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[Robinho]

the red button stuff is good, the onlione content is far better, the race reruns are put up quicker, and they don't make the faux pas that ITV did (that i will never forgive them for) of putting the screengrab for the race rerun link as a picture of the podium ceremony (thanks, don't need to watch it now!)

i vastly prefer legard to James Allen - whose blog i am enjoying without ever having to hear his voice, and for those who aren't keen on Legard, you can listen to the Five Live or CBBC commentary through the red button during the races. the after race stuff is better, the only thing that isn't maybe as good as ITV is the basic F1 news website, which seems to be a little slow to get stuff up, but it more than makes up for it with the video content, like the previous races - which aren't only the old BBC stuff as they had last years German GP highlights as one of the selections for the last GP.

plus no adverts and its an alreound improvement for me, i just hope we get it in HD soon (as i pick up my HD TV tomorrow) but i expect that is more down to CVC and the poison dwarf more than it is up to the BBC

[ioan]

But no, I dont, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Depends if you have a better job than that! ;)

[wedge]

BBC have turned the notch up to another level with their archives, red button and internet.

I recommend subscribing to Andrew Benson's blog so you know when the Classic races will be shown.

Seems like you're missing out on the Red button treament. on race day its a must for post-race stuff after 3pm when the schedule on BBC1 is compromised, onboard footage during race, alternative CBBC/5live commentary

[markabilly]

Depends if you have a better job than that! ;)
What could be better????
When I was a kid, I always wanted to be a wide world of sports announcer, travel the world over, expenses paid, meet famous athletes and racers, and so forth.

the only other job was to be a photographer for playboy

[Tazio]

As a viewer that only gets the race, and quali broadcast. (comentary, and color)
I can only comment on that. I liked ITV better! But have no issues with BBC as I'm usally chatting with Valve, Donks,Ozzy, Jens
and the rest of the usual suspects! :p :
with an eye on timing and scoring!
pip pip,
stiff upper lip,
cherio

[El Sween]

ITV is not missed by me.

[ioan]

What could be better????
When I was a kid, I always wanted to be a wide world of sports announcer, travel the world over, expenses paid, meet famous athletes and racers, and so forth.

the only other job was to be a photographer for playboy

:D

[Dave B]

The only two areas where ITV may have had an edge on the BBC is their website (but that was largely run by Haymarket, publishers of Autosport) and their lead commentator.

Everything else about the BBC's coverage is a gigantic step up from what ITV managed. Hell, before the first race of the season they'd already shown more archive footage than ITV managed in 12 years!

All 3 practice sessions live on TV and online with Five Live commentary - ITV could only provide an embarrassingly low-bandwidth feed, no TV coverage, no commentary, and no Saturday practice. David Croft and Anthony Davidson make up one of the best commentary pairings in the sport.

A good presentation team - Jake Humphrey is a natural exceeding all expectations; DC and EJ provide excellent insight and the occasional barney; and Brundle has been retained to provide technical features and his infamous gridwalk. Ted Kravitz has been given the freedom to ask more searching questions during the race and give a more technical input, and by moving the retiree interviews to after the race we're spared Louise Goodman stating the bleedin' obvious.

Better picture quality - on DSAT at least BBC One has a far higher bitrate than ITV's low resolution efforts. Alright it's not HD (thanks Bernie :rolleyes: ) but at least the BBC have an HD channel for when FOM get their finger out.

Interactive features - I now use 3 screens to watch the race because the onboard feature is so useful. Plus if (the slowly improving) Legard isn't your cup of tea, there's the option of radio commentary, or even CBBC's humourous banter.

Post-race forum - an hour! of review and analysis on the red button, rather than the pathetic scheduling by ITV which often meant a quick getaway to a repeat of a soap, or Britain's Got the Funniest Pet Accidents , or some other such highbrow entertainment.

Insightful online articles by the likes of Andrew Benson and Mark Hughes, plus blogs from all the team offering glimpses behind-the-scenes and fascinating background.

And best of all... no bloody adverts!

[UltimateDanGTR]

yes, what dave said! hit the nail on the head so perfectly it actully destroyed the wall.

also, I loved the dig on ITV's scheduale, very funny and very true

[BDunnell]

Dave, I couldn't agree more, though I'm sorry to say I think Legard simply isn't up to the job, and this is a big failing on the BBC's part. Everything else is very good indeed.

[BDunnell]

I will, however, concede that Jonathan Legard's qualifying commentary is excellent, so I really ought to give him more of a chance.

[wedge]

I will, however, concede that Jonathan Legard's qualifying commentary is excellent, so I really ought to give him more of a chance.

Had a good chuckle with Croftie and Herbert at the end of qualy, Legard sounded like a sourpuss in comparison

[Dave B]

Another advantage for the BBC: when a session over runs (as with today's qualifying) they updated the Sky EPG data on the hoof to allow for the over-run. ITV never did, and their duty office incorrectly told me it was not technically possible during a live broadcast.

They also just threw back from the athletics coverage to confirm the qually results after the FOM live timing failed - can you imagine ITV bothering to do that?

[VkmSpouge]

I much prefer BBC's F1 coverage to ITV's and not just because of no commercial breaks (though this is indeed wonderful).
The coverage of practice sessions is good, as it gives me a reason to get up early on a Saturday morning instead of at noon.
I like the commentary pair of Legard/Brundle and Five Live's pairing of Croft/Davidson (I think Johnny Herbert is a good substitute for Davidson this weekend).
Both the pre-race and post-race coverage is much better than on ITV.

[woody2goody]

Legard's a strange one for me. Some weekends he sounds like the consummate professional, and some weekends he commentates like an amateur.

Ideally, a three-man booth with Brundle, David Croft and Anthony Davidson would be brilliant. Legard could do the Five Live commentary with Maurice Hamilton, who's been growing on me during the practices.

Overall, BBC beats ITV in almost every way. I did like ITV's graphics and overall presentation, although the BBC's way is truer to the emotion of the sport. Also, DC and EJ are more knowledgeable and easier to understand that Mark Blundell or whoever else ITV would get.

[ioan]

OK guys, let's say it. Bot ITV and BBC sukc, there are much better televisiosn around.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Was it James Allen who hosted the press-conference?

[Dave B]

Yup, he took over the role from Pete Windsor. Now that PW is technically an entrant, it resolves any potential conflict of interest.

[BDunnell]

Legard's a strange one for me. Some weekends he sounds like the consummate professional, and some weekends he commentates like an amateur.

What he's yet to get right is any sense of the 'light and shade' that you often hear commentators referring to when talking about their job. There is little change of pace — and his descriptions of race starts don't exactly grab me.

[philipbain]

BBC's coverage is class, I suppose its subjective, if you enjoy product placements in the form of profit making phone in competitions and a load of advert breaks interrupting the action then you may miss ITV! the interactive service is great and I am gradually finding Legard less annoying!

Also as an aside I am glad that James Allen has found gainful employment in F1 again, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread, his F1 blog is class and he is vastly knowledgable on F1 and thought he made a great pit reporter (though Ted Kravitz is also a fantastic pit reporter!) its just that I found him extremely annoying as a lead commentator, nothing personal, just annoying. the BBC would be well served putting Crofty on TV though, he's excellent, as is Ant "I make Nick Heidfeld look big" Davidson who will be sadly missed this weekend (he's racing in the Spa 24 hours) though Herbert should make an entertaining replacement.

[acescribe]

ITV is not missed by me.

Or me! Or never thought I'd say this but I actually prefer Jake Humphrey to Steve Rider now too. And whilst I think they could improve it by trading places for David Croft and Jonathan Legard, there is always the red button.

Cant see the point in another thread about this. The BBC's coverage is much better in every way simply through the afore mentioned red button alone, and for any who say "not got that", you better had because the whole of the UK will be digital TV only within the next three years and some regions already are.

[goodf1fun]

we forgive you

[71minus2]

BBC - ITV
No adverts - Adverts (1-0)
Full race weekend Interactive - Poor interactive service (2-0)
Legard/Brundle - Allen/Brundle (3-0)
Post Race Coverage over 60 mins - post Race coverage 10-15mins MAX (4-0)

BBC gets it for me, ITV was awful from the minute Murray retired.

[Dave B]

The BBC do however lose a point for Eddie Jordan being an unbearable <bleep> all weekend.

[woody2goody]

The BBC do however lose a point for Eddie Jordan being an unbearable <bleep> all weekend.

Eddie's got better ever since the first 4 races or so. While some of his questions would baffle a scientist, he is becoming less belligerent and more useful to the viewers.

I enjoyed Trulli taking the piss out of him a little bit today too.

[UltimateDanGTR]

I perosanlly really like EJ, especially with DC and Jake HUmphreys. they are a great team and although like said before some of his questions were a bit confusing etc earlier on, I think he makes a great pundit.

However it was uncomforting at the end of the normal BBC broadcast of the race today, when Jake humphreys was saying the final words eddie just stared at the camera and smiled in a strange manor. creepy! :D

love the banter with those guys, brilliant!

[gloomyDAY]

I just don't like the commentary.

Someone on this board suggested 5 live and it was great!
I feel as if the commentators on 5 live could make watching grass grow very enthralling.

[woody2goody]

I just don't like the commentary.

Someone on this board suggested 5 live and it was great!
I feel as if the commentators on 5 live could make watching grass grow very enthralling.

I really enjoy Croft and Davidson for Friday practice, but Brundle gives a lot to the TV coverage, so I doubt i'll listen to them for the races. I might give them a shot once or twice this year. Maybe at Spa if I don't miss my third Belgian GP in a row :D

[christophulus]

In practice they certainly know how to fill the time, and Croft, Davidson etc are very knowledgeable. For me though, I leave the BBC1 commentary on in the race - Legard is much less annoying than he was originally.

[DeltaS4]

Just to offer a little perspective from the US - the Hungarian GP on Fox didn't begin until 5 hours after the race ended, and they edited out more than 15 laps (about 20% of the race) in order to fit pre-race, race, and post-race into a 2-hour show.

[Anubis]

Can't say I miss ITV. No cutting to adverts at a vital moment, no James Allen wittering on, no missing the press conference for Coronation Street plus all the website and red button goodness. I can take or leave Legard, but he doesn't irritate me on an atomic level, which James Allen did. I'm tiring somewhat of Eddie Jordan, who reminds me of the uncle you don't really want to talk to at a party, but Humphreys and Crazy Dave offset that enough that it is yet to really bug me. I also don't miss ITV's never ending dumbing down of things or their talent for linking EVERYTHING to Lewis Hamilton.

[Ari]

Never had any huge problems with ITV but the BBC coverage has been fantastic. It really had.

No ad breaks is huge imo. Just huge! Look at the last race in 2007 when Lewis' car cut out. We got back from an ad-break to see a dead McLaren and were all WTF. Of course ITV couldn't know when something would happen but with no ad-breaks we get it all.

I watch the race through my local provide ten One which is a very good service and live. I have a BBC stream running as well when my provider goes to a break I just click play on the BBC stream.

I rather like the line up for BBC as well. No issues from me. :)

[Mark]

BBC is way better than ITV.

However in Hungary, cut to a shot of Alonso retiring from the race, and whoever it was carried on talking about something completely different, and then almost as the shot has finished mentioned Alonso being out of the race. Such occurrences warrant immediate attention!

CBBC commentary is a bit strange. The little bit I listened to the commentator was trying to find out who car #4 was. Now; I may be asking a bit much here but even for a childrens commentary a professional should know immediately who is driving each numbered car!

[555-04Q2]

When it was announced in the papers that F1 was going back to the BBC, I thought 'great - no ads'. And I was right, but that's the only truly great thing about it. Whats more surprising is that my F1 fan friends are sating that as well. Their coverage isn't awful, but it's not as good as ITV's. I honestly think ITV will have it for good from 2014.

I have to say that the BBC is equally as bad as ITV was. Considering the type of sport F1 is, you would think that the quality of the broadcasting would be world class, but its not. Third rate is the first thing that comes to mind.

[Mark]

I wonder exactly what would make people happy here?

I wonder exactly what would make people happy here?

Formula One porn?

[Ranger]

Third rate is the first thing that comes to mind.

List me the things that first-rate coverage would have, please. :)

[Dave B]

I have to say that the BBC is equally as bad as ITV was. Considering the type of sport F1 is, you would think that the quality of the broadcasting would be world class, but its not. Third rate is the first thing that comes to mind.
What specific improvements would you like to see. Saying it's "bad" isn't really helpful.

[BDunnell]

Formula One porn?

Not now, thanks. I'm at work.

[Mark]

To go off on a tangent. Has Martin Brundle ever commentated on the Hungarian Grand Prix before?

When he was with ITV it was always the race where he took a holiday break.

[Dave B]

As an aside:


BBC1's coverage of the Hungarian formula one Grand Prix, which gave Lewis Hamilton his first win of the season after Felipe Massa's life-threatening crash in qualifying on Saturday, pulled in 4.8 million viewers and a 43% share between 12.10pm and 3pm. BBC1's F1 coverage yesterday peaked at 5.8 million viewers for the 15 minutes from 2.30pm.

43% share, that's pretty damn good!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009/jul/27/tv-ratings-griff-rhys-jones

[555-04Q2]

Well just to start with:

1. Better coverage of all cars on the track. You sometimes forget that there are 20 cars in the race.

2. Better commentary. Brundle is fine to a degree and knowledgable as an ex F1 driver, but they never seem to partner him with someone...colourful. I miss mad old MW. They can take a leaf out of the MotoGP commentators book. With little old South African sporting broadcasts we have at least three options of commentators to choose from.

3. Co-ordinate with the ground commentators so that when the team radio comes in, they stop the ground interview for a few seconds while the transmission is being broadcast to viewers and then carry on again. We often miss radio transmissions during the interviews. Even busy team bosses and retired drivers can wait 5 or six seconds for the transmission to end.

4. Less biased opinion towards the Brit drivers, it gets annoying at times, kinda like watching an OZ vs anyone else rugby test match with Auzzie commentators. <pukes up lunch>

[Dave B]

Well just to start with:

1. Better coverage of all cars on the track. You sometimes forget that there are 20 cars in the race.
That's down to FOM, not the broadcaster. The BBC have made the onboard channel available so at least there's a choice. Anyway, it's a whole lot better than when host broadcasters directed their own race, and you'd have 20 minutes of Tora Takagi or Pedro Diniz running round in P22.


2. Better commentary....

While I agree to an extent, on UK digital services we have a choice of three commentaries or the option of none. David Croft and Anthony Davidson are particularly good.



3. Co-ordinate with the ground commentators so that when the team radio comes in, they stop the ground interview for a few seconds while the transmission is being broadcast to viewers and then carry on again.
That's fair, and should be handled much better than it currently is.


4. Less biased opinion towards the Brit drivers, it gets annoying at times, kinda like watching an OZ vs anyone else rugby test match with Auzzie commentators. <pukes up lunch>
It's a hell of a lot better than "The Lewis Hamilton Show" on ITV in '07/'08, and in fairness it is a British channel. I guess if you're watching it in SA you're not paying a licence fee towards funding it, so you do forfeit the right to make too many complaints! :p

[christophulus]

I'd agree that the commentary seems to have gone downhill - and it's not due to how irritating the commentators are (or aren't). Brundle is very knowledgeable and Legard isn't as awful as some suggest, but I've lost count of how many times this year I've known what's going on and they don't! Has anyone else noticed this?

Is it an issue with them not having the information in the commentary box or do they not pay attention? Same with the team radio always being talked over. It seems to me like they either don't have the information or aren't paying attention, there's a time delay between the on screen "team radio" graphic appearing and the radio being played after all.

[Mark]

Has anyone tried watching it with the no-commentary option? It's a rather strange experience, and it does make it seem rather dull!

But if you really don't like the commentators, swtich them off, get live timing going and provide your own commentary!

[Dave B]

I tend to shout all over whichever commentary I have on anyway!

[555-04Q2]

It's a hell of a lot better than "The Lewis Hamilton Show" on ITV in '07/'08, and in fairness it is a British channel. I guess if you're watching it in SA you're not paying a licence fee towards funding it, so you do forfeit the right to make too many complaints! :p

I am a pay per view satelite subscriber so I should have a bloody say! DSTV pays a huge wack to get the braodcast rights to F1 in Africa! Fair treatment for all I say :p :

Cant argue with you about "The Lewis Hamilton Show" :p :

[ArrowsFA1]

I think the BBC do a great job, and their coverage is an improvement over ITV. I could do without Eddie Jordan and David Croft would be my main commentator of choice, but other than that no complaints at all.

[Mark]

Do you think Coulthard and Jordan are really bezzy mates who like to have a bit of banter on screen, or can't they stand each other?

[wedge]

According Jake Humphries in his recent blog they do get on off screen, just different opinions and huge passion. He said - and I entirely agree - that it was much better than MOTD when Hansen and co would agree with each other far too often which can be boring.

[Dave B]

A reigning British champion, a potential British champion this year in Jenson Button, and now the return of Michael Schumacher! How much must ITV regret handing back their contract early? The worst decision since buying Friends Reunited!

[Mark]

Everything must bow at the mighty altar of football, it would seem.

ITV took over F1 just as Damon Hill was at the top of his game on his way to win the world title, and then when they started coverage in 1997 it was the start of a bit of a drought for British competitors, and then during the early 2000's they had to cover those boring seasons where there was no real competition put to Schumacher.

At least they got Hamiltons challenge in 2007 and victory in 2008.

To start with during the Jim Rosenthal era the ITV coverage was frankly dire. You could tell even to the end he didn't give too hoots about F1 and what was with doing it from a studio? You can tell whoever thought of that was thinking in football terms. In some races you could tell they were just in a car park miles away from the track.

It got much better when Steve Ryder joined them and they started presenting from the paddock, thankfully BBC have carried this on. Although I have to say, on balance, I prefer James Allen to Legard.

They had the dream team when they had Murray Walker and Martin Brundle, it's just never been as good since.

[AndyRAC]

I think the BBC do a great job, and their coverage is an improvement over ITV. I could do without Eddie Jordan and David Croft would be my main commentator of choice, but other than that no complaints at all.

Was listening to 5Live on Saturday, and Johnny Herbert mentioned the 'Scandinavian Flick' - Crofty sounded surprised, and had never heard of this term before - a Motorsport commentator not hearing of this - he's been spending too much time at the World darts...... ;)

[Mark]

Perhaps. Or was it a commentators question? i.e. pretend you don't know so it gets explained for those listening who don't know.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

One thing I don't miss from ITV



Mark Blundell

[tommy2k8]

I think ITV will get it back in 2014. Also, Bernie won't like it if the BBC get live FA Cup back, as all the focus will be on the footie.

[Mark]

I think ITV will get it back in 2014.

They don't want it.

[I am evil Homer]

When it was announced in the papers that F1 was going back to the BBC, I thought 'great - no ads'. And I was right, but that's the only truly great thing about it. Whats more surprising is that my F1 fan friends are sating that as well. Their coverage isn't awful, but it's not as good as ITV's. I honestly think ITV will have it for good from 2014.

Your wrong because the BBC has a better team and has fully embraced the interactive side of TV that ITV can't even managed for Champions League football, it's supposed 'top line' sport.

Also they'd never cut to an ad break while one of the best races only has 8 laps left!!

[Retro Formula 1]

If they could just get Legard to think before opening his gob, then I would perfectly happy with the BBC coverage. As it is, he gets things wrong more than right.

[christophulus]

as long as I don't have to listen to a blast of Aerosmith, a Sony camcorder going through a shelf of glass vases

Wasn't that the one with the lyrics that sounded suspiciously like "I can play with myself" ? :p

But yes, the BBC has absolutely blown away all that ITV did over the past few years. ITV wouldn't have all the free practice sessions live, and a post-race forum. The BBC certainly knows how to use digital.

[Dave B]

I think it was. I do kind of miss Moby's "lift me up" track in the intro but we can't have two great tunes. It did sound abit like "lift me higher than a lama/Lada" though.. :p
No no no no no! Zip me up, zip me up, wanna banana? :p



They [ITV] don't want it.
They didn't want it under Michael "I hate motorsport" Grade. With a new management (a bloke who used to run Asda and another fellow who fecked up the Royal Mail) who knows where their future ambitions lie?

[SGWilko]

who knows where their future ambitions lie?

A game show with a 'naturalist' twist hosted by Cheggers???

[Daniel]

One thing I don't miss from ITV



Mark Blundell
That's one fing wot I don't miss niva.

[Langdale Forest]

The BBC coverage is better because there are no adverts. :D

[tommy2k8]

No no no no no! Zip me up, zip me up, wanna banana? :p

The guy who was responsible for the move to the BBC will probably buy it back in 2014


They didn't want it under Michael "I hate motorsport" Grade. With a new management (a bloke who used to run Asda and another fellow who fecked up the Royal Mail) who knows where their future ambitions lie?

The guy who was responsible for the move to the BBC will probably buy it back in 2014

[Daniel]

I must admit I'll have less lines on my face when I'm older now he's now part of the coverage. When he said things like "It's just immensely humidity" or "He hasn't got no regard for him, whatsoever", I found myself squinting in disbelief. :p

To be fair I didn't actually mind him really. Sure his English wasn't no good but he wasn't as bad as James Allen!

[Daniel]

I'd have to agree with you there. At least he was an ex driver and had some link with what was going on around him. Airing the ramblings of a "Lewis stalker" like Allen is not something I miss... :p
Allen would have an overload this year with Lewis AND Jenson in his favourite team :mark:

[SGWilko]

To be fair I didn't actually mind him really. Sure his English wasn't no good but he wasn't as bad as James Allen!

Yeah, I fink wot 'e done weren't a bad job, like.

It's just of them fings, init?

[wedge]

I'd have to agree with you there. At least he was an ex driver and had some link with what was going on around him.

Mark Blundell could only point to the obvious

[Daniel]

A bit like in this case.. :p

He was only a segment filler really, he wasn't exactly commentating on the race itself and occupied very little on the schedule. I don't miss seeing the guy, but I didn't mind him at the same time. :)
I was going to say the same thing. Some posters wot are on this board aint exactly the best people wot to speak about uvver people's problems like.

[Brown, Jon Brow]

Blundell :laugh:

at this moment in time

We've seen every race this season that's the tactics they've done with

Maybe those waved yellow flags should have been stagnant yellow flags

[goodf1fun]

When it was announced in the papers that F1 was going back to the BBC, I thought 'great - no ads'. And I was right, but that's the only truly great thing about it. Whats more surprising is that my F1 fan friends are sating that as well. Their coverage isn't awful, but it's not as good as ITV's. I honestly think ITV will have it for good from 2014.


why you say sorry? lol