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52Paddy
5th July 2009, 20:32
http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5415480,00.html

I'm very dissapointed having read the above article. I always considered Button a driver with his feet more on the ground and his attitude more gentleman-like than arrogant. So much for that. :s

harvick#1
5th July 2009, 20:42
what a tool :s

hes now being cocky that he has a good car, too bad RBR upped their pace and Vettel is by far more talented than Button

woody2goody
5th July 2009, 20:47
Did you two even read the article. He was obviously joking, and on top of that he was talking to piers Morgan, who's possibly the biggest tool in England.

Of course Jenson would give answers like this. Magazines and newspapers love this sort of thing.

Jenson's the kind of guy to make those kind of jokes. People with a sense of humour get these.

Colin_Harvey
5th July 2009, 21:52
"Me, I'm the best," was Button's response. No doubt with his tongue firmly in his cheek.

Arrogant or ironic...? Pretty obvious it's the latter.

gloomyDAY
5th July 2009, 21:56
Fudge people! You guys bored?

First Bernie's statement, which was blown out of proportion, and now Jenson can't even crack a joke without getting any flack. I wonder if this is why there's such a lack of interest now during the GP weekends. All the fans spend their energy gossiping about irrelevant crap and then are spent for the GPs.

yodasarmpit
5th July 2009, 22:07
FFS, get a grip it was a joke.

markabilly
5th July 2009, 23:25
Are you kidding? He is the holy one, the only driver to whom god speaks (now that I am retired), here he is, getting another message..you are the best :
http://images.planetf1.com/09/06/240/Jenson-Button_2319282.jpg

d_hill39
5th July 2009, 23:55
When any driver other than lewis say something,its a joke,but when lewis say anything,it could be the littlest thing,the board lights up.It turns into 10 pages of nonsense.Let see how long this last on the first page.

52Paddy
6th July 2009, 00:13
I'm not up to scratch on the British entertainment and gossip industry, but from that article, it was difficult to know whether Button was joking.


When any driver other than lewis say something,its a joke,but when lewis say anything,it could be the littlest thing,the board lights up.

Haven't I just proved the contrary? :confused:

I, the thread starter, didn't think this was a joke. Though I'm still open to believing it was, maybe I took it the wrong way.

woody2goody
6th July 2009, 00:30
I'm not up to scratch on the British entertainment and gossip industry, but from that article, it was difficult to know whether Button was joking.



Haven't I just proved the contrary? :confused:

I, the thread starter, didn't think this was a joke. Though I'm still open to believing it was, maybe I took it the wrong way.

Sorry for coming down a bit harshly on you mate.

wedge
6th July 2009, 00:58
"Me, I'm the best," was Button's response. No doubt with his tongue firmly in his cheek.

Arrogant or ironic...? Pretty obvious it's the latter.

How can you tell?

Unlike Lewis 'I'd rather not race with monkeys at the back' Hamilton which was a filmed ITV interview, you could see the tongue in cheek and yet many today still villifiy him for saying it.


FFS, get a grip it was a joke.

Yuji Ide saying he's the best driver in the world. Now that's a joke.


http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3213_5415480,00.html

I'm very dissapointed having read the above article. I always considered Button a driver with his feet more on the ground and his attitude more gentleman-like than arrogant. So much for that. :s

Just when you thought Button turned a stone...

Is is true? Can our precious Jenson really say and mean it?

Oh please

I've followed F1 closely for about 18years and nothing surprises me these days.

ShiftingGears
6th July 2009, 02:40
It was clearly a joke.

race_director
6th July 2009, 07:15
NAH !!!!!

Do not worry guys. Button has just got HAMI FLU ( HAMI FLU: a sympton seen in Hamilton. very often. claiming he the best, his balls are bigger than other's, I can call the British PM' etc.....). both were close through the British GP.

Since the flu takes time to be under control after exposure to HAMIFLU.
Jensen is expected to be fully normal in the next 2-3 days.

pino
6th July 2009, 08:49
NAH !!!!!

Do not worry guys. Button has just got HAMI FLU ( HAMI FLU: a sympton seen in Hamilton. very often. claiming he the best, his balls are bigger than other's, I can call the British PM' etc.....). both were close through the British GP.

Since the flu takes time to be under control after exposure to HAMIFLU.
Jensen is expected to be fully normal in the next 2-3 days.

Please don't use "bold" letters, thank you :)

leopard
6th July 2009, 09:08
The can share being the best together. :)

555-04Q2
6th July 2009, 10:59
We need to stop these three week race gaps. Gives some people too much time to talk more cr@p :p :

Saint Devote
6th July 2009, 11:29
Oh come ON!

I have been a fan of Jenson for years and the depth of disappointment was when the BAR was excluded from Monte Carlo. I was convicnced that year he could win.

This year for people such as myself is just so wonderful and we are so very pleased for him.

To the point: Jenson takes the "piss" a great deal and has a good sense of hunmor. Even when being interviewed after a race it is evident - anyone remember his "cheeky" comment in an interview referring to Vettel?

Of course all drivers think that they are the greatest. But - anyone believing the comment was a serious one bereft of humor does not know Jenson Button.

Lighten up people!

Further - at least it was not the "mice" comment made by Hamilton - I wonder how he feels now that he is a mouse this season?

And in my view - a true blue Jenson fan cannot be - can never have been - also a Lewis fan.

wedge
6th July 2009, 11:56
anyone believing the comment was a serious one bereft of humor does not know Jenson Button.

And there are some people who have met him and think he's a complete cock



And in my view - a true blue Jenson fan cannot be - can never have been - also a Lewis fan.

ROFLMAO!!!

All very well wishing for the great and good becoming reality but F1 drivers are human afterall. The negatives will crack a chink in the armour no matter how much positive PR spin you put on it.

F1 is becoming sanitised and diluted of personality but scrutiny is so great in F1 today is that you'll be/perceived to be a cock at some point.

Sleeper
6th July 2009, 13:20
The most shocking thing about that article is that anyone can describe Piers Morgan as "affable".

jens
6th July 2009, 14:08
Quite amusing that some people take this "quote" seriously. :)

Sonic
6th July 2009, 20:06
I'm yet to find a driver on the grid who is not arrogant in some way.

Indeed. Every driver thinks they are the best. Even when all evidence points to the contrary! :D

BTW it was cleary a joke.

UltimateDanGTR
6th July 2009, 20:17
an obvious joke by Jenson, hes just enjoying the media attention. Good for him! I would do much the same. rule number 1: never take the media seriously if you're a racing driver :)

but with this 'racing drivers are arrogant' business, surely all drivers need to think they are the best and that they can be champion, otherwise they wouldnt be racing drivers would they. sportsmen need arrogance for drive, to even stand a chance.

52Paddy
6th July 2009, 20:54
Sorry for coming down a bit harshly on you mate.

Cool. No problem. :)


Definately a Jenson style joke.... ;)

I can sympathise if people did take this the wrong way

That's all I needed to hear (take that literally, not sarcastically.)


To the point: Jenson takes the "piss" a great deal and has a good sense of hunmor.

But - anyone believing the comment was a serious one bereft of humor does not know Jenson Button.

I clearly don't! That's fair enough, this is the first time I witnessed Jenson's style of humour. And I do find it funny, now that its clearly joke. Infact, I've warmed even more to his character because of it. But he had me confused initially. Cheers for putting that straight :up:

Dave B
7th July 2009, 07:53
The most shocking thing about that article is that anyone can describe Piers Morgan as "affable".
They probably meant "punchable".

Big Ben
7th July 2009, 11:36
Didn't see the interview but I'm sure it was a joke. You can't compare this "the monkyes at the back" or "I'm so great. I have big balls".

wedge
7th July 2009, 12:31
I clearly don't! That's fair enough, this is the first time I witnessed Jenson's style of humour. And I do find it funny, now that its clearly joke. Infact, I've warmed even more to his character because of it. But he had me confused initially. Cheers for putting that straight :up:

Not just aiming at you personally but why do people so wish for their heroes to be just that: the romantice notion of one can do no wrong?

Does it really matter if he is a complete cock or not?

My all time hero is Nigel Mansell. Annoying brummie, endless moaning cock, which I'm quite happy to take on board because what really matters to me was that he was a racing driver and out on the track he could do things that could bring a huge smile to my face.

Valve Bounce
7th July 2009, 13:57
We keep getting the same silly thread in our forum regularly.

I always reply the guy in the Cleanaways garbage that nearly cleaned me up last week.

Assk a silly question and you get a silly answer.

52Paddy
7th July 2009, 21:46
Not just aiming at you personally but why do people so wish for their heroes to be just that: the romantice notion of one can do no wrong?

Does it really matter if he is a complete cock or not?

True, its their racecraft that counts when push comes to shove. But (not defending my mistake from earlier by the way), there have been a handful of 'gentleman drivers' over the years who, regardless of whether they considered themselves the best or not, had a certain drawing warmth to their character which is all too rare these days in ANY sport. I considered (and still do having read the replies to this thread) Button on the boarderline of this character. More so now, than ever. I remember a few years back when he went back on his decision to join Williams, citing B.A.R as the team he needed to be with to win the world championship. Since those days, I've seen him mature so much and now, the man is fresh.

On reading that joke article, I took it seriously and, although it doesn't detract from his driving, it certainly did detract from his character. Of course, it didn't really, because it was a joke. That's all I've left to say. Case closed for me. :)

wedge
8th July 2009, 00:17
True, its their racecraft that counts when push comes to shove. But (not defending my mistake from earlier by the way), there have been a handful of 'gentleman drivers' over the years who, regardless of whether they considered themselves the best or not, had a certain drawing warmth to their character which is all too rare these days in ANY sport. I considered (and still do having read the replies to this thread) Button on the boarderline of this character. More so now, than ever. I remember a few years back when he went back on his decision to join Williams, citing B.A.R as the team he needed to be with to win the world championship. Since those days, I've seen him mature so much and now, the man is fresh.

On reading that joke article, I took it seriously and, although it doesn't detract from his driving, it certainly did detract from his character. Of course, it didn't really, because it was a joke. That's all I've left to say. Case closed for me. :)

Of course we hark back to 'gentleman drivers' I would be a hypocrite if I didn't admit to aspiring to that romantic notion and greater humanity but like John Lennon and his song 'Imagine' it is just that - a romantic notion.

Even in the so called good old days Jim Clark would go in a moody sulk and not speak to Jackie Stewart because his so called pal was more than a match for Clark. And like Senna, Clark would find controlling his emotions difficult in front of the media, began effing and blinding regarding the Italian prosecution regarding Clark's involvement in an accidental death of Wolfgang von Trips.

Today scrutiny in F1 is far greater. Post-Schumi I suppose there was a wish for greater conduct but as we've seen with Alonso and Hamilton is simply not a case but a necessary evil. The money and adulation is so great today to the point that arrogance (confidence, call it what you will) of somekind is a pre-requisite.

Being nice is all very but it won't necessarily get you far in F1 these days.

F1boat
9th July 2009, 11:20
Hopefully he was kidding, because if he is not, he is deluded.

markabilly
9th July 2009, 12:49
"began effing and blinding"
Translate?
I don't speak much australian (heck, i don't speak much english either)

but nothing like being potentially acussed of murder in an investigation that went on too long, to say nothing of his own feelings about what happenned regardless of that

wedge
9th July 2009, 15:29
When Clark was being interviewed by the British (a tape reel was played in a recent BBC documentary) he suddenly lost control of himself, turned angry and used the F word a number of times to describe the Italian prosecution, which looks like it debunks the myth of the golden age gentleman racers era.

Certainly Clark is entitled to feel emotional and speak his mind but certainly could've done without expletives and with some composure, especially infront of the media.

wedge
9th July 2009, 23:18
I don't mind it but there's a time and a place for cussing like being interviewed by Jonathon Ross for instance. And neither is hardly professional. You don't see Schumi fuming back saying "Stop calling me a F'ing cheat" in every interview.

TBH, I never particularly liked Senna when he vented his spleen in press conferences. There was a certain malice and (in my eyes) it appeared ugly even though Balestre was running the show in those days.

Saying that I did enjoy the radio transmissions before they were delayed. The curious and voyeureistic side of me enjoyed hearing how driver and team interact on the airwaves.

markabilly
10th July 2009, 00:55
When Clark was being interviewed by the British (a tape reel was played in a recent BBC documentary) he suddenly lost control of himself, turned angry and used the F word a number of times to describe the Italian prosecution, which looks like it debunks the myth of the golden age gentleman racers era.

Certainly Clark is entitled to feel emotional and speak his mind but certainly could've done without expletives and with some composure, especially infront of the media.
...nevertheless, I would like to see it, but I can understand the reaction given the subject matter, it is not like why did you spin yourself out and lose the race, or what do you think about your car breaking down or where are you going to race or why did your wife leave ......

my guess it was the usual loud barking stuff over whether tripps cut into him or vice versa, and if he should be prosecuted for the deaths of 14 spectators of various ages and how do you feel about that....
.interesting snippet about clark and his personality and the accident

http://books.google.com/books?id=bM5pFg-cOSAC&pg=PT40&lpg=PT40&dq=von+trips+death+at+monza,+was+it+clark's+fault&source=bl&ots=Bnir4FH90T&sig=jecsPR6_f0G8WZGTi4JPcSCWh2E&hl=en&ei=7oFWSu-mN9untge07rXfAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1


That was long before the day of the carefully rehearsed media interview stuff over relatively trivial issues

52Paddy
10th July 2009, 08:37
.interesting snippet about clark and his personality and the accident

http://books.google.com/books?id=bM5pFg-cOSAC&pg=PT40&lpg=PT40&dq=von+trips+death+at+monza,+was+it+clark's+fault&source=bl&ots=Bnir4FH90T&sig=jecsPR6_f0G8WZGTi4JPcSCWh2E&hl=en&ei=7oFWSu-mN9untge07rXfAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

Good read, cheers :up:

wedge
10th July 2009, 12:17
That was long before the day of the carefully rehearsed media interview stuff over relatively trivial issues

But then you had Graham Hill who could play the game before the game was ever invented. He could turn on his charm infront of the media like a switch and used his abrasive personality behind closed doors.

markabilly
10th July 2009, 13:01
But then you had Graham Hill who could play the game before the game was ever invented. He could turn on his charm infront of the media like a switch and used his abrasive personality behind closed doors.

That was just natural talent!!!! :D

Unlike today....with the careful choregraphs.....

and this was back in the day, when someone like Clark would close the door to his hotel the morning of a race and wonder if he would be alive to open it in the evening...and maybe ten to thirty percent of the grid of a formula one race, had careers that would NOT end in retirement but death from a racing accident....so getting a little tense over stuff had its origins in things a bit more serious than is somebody messing with my tire pressures or did i push the wrong button...

or who bumped me too hard (Indeed it was a slight bit of contact between Clark and Von Tripps, at relatively low speeds compared to today) and suddenly 15 people were dead



Now we have All the teams with their marketing directors and so forth

Saw something a few years ago, about training a driver how to act like a real driver in nascar, how to say right after he wins, that "the Pepsi Light, Exon, Marlboro, Budweiser, Viagra, Tampax, Hostess Cup Cake Team ran great all race long".

The when asked any questions, such as how do you think you will do next race, to say, " [not I or we] the Pepsi Light, Exon, Marlboro, Budweiser, Viagra, Hostess Cup Cake Chevy Team will run great..."

and most importantly, when and how to properly spray the quart bottle of Pepsi

and why do you think the first order of business after weigh in, in F1, is for drivers to put on their omega watches, put on their little hats, carefully position all their logos...... :rolleyes:

BTW--in this day, fewer and fewer folks wear watches (10%?? thanks to mobile phones) whereas a mere 15 years ago, everyone and their dog wore watches...even in the 1960's, drivers were wearing watches while racing until the danger of "degloving" the hand from the watch as a result of an accident were finally accepted and drivers stopped....

wedge
10th July 2009, 16:02
There is a need for it. You really don't want to air your dirty laundry in public.

You need to play the team game, which is why the only good thing for Hamilton to be associated with McLaren is that he hasn't bitched about the team, unlike Jenson in Malaysia in 2005; and as for his "go swivvle" comment well next time Lewis make sure the door is fully closed!