[IRC] Rallye Principe de Asturias 2009

[wwbroe]

Hello, i know it is still two months away but does anybody have more information about this year's Rallye Asturias. The website is down since more then one month and i would like to visit the rally again this year. Any info about the stages or other things is more then welcome. ;)

[CricketsFilm]

Hotel is already booked..... :)

[principe IRC]

When you know will do the news.
There may be some changes in stages
A. Hevia - Skoda Fabia S2000

[noel157]

When you know will do the news.
There may be some changes in stages
A. Hevia - Skoda Fabia S2000

Any idea who will be running the Fabia for Hervia? Didn't Alberto run (or was it just a test) a Polo S2k in Ypres one year?

[Mirek]

Alberto said several times in the past that he would drive Fabia later in the season in Spanish tarmac championship...

[wwbroe]

What is going on with the official website of the event. I am unable to reach it for quite a long period now. Does anybody have another link or know what is going on :(

[principe IRC]

What is going on with the official website of the event. I am unable to reach it for quite a long period now. Does anybody have another link or know what is going on :(

www.rallyprincipe.com (http://www.rallyprincipe.com)



While this information even 2008 will be shortly updated news Rally Principe de Asturias 2009.
When I have the news you know will do

[wwbroe]

www.rallyprincipe.com (http://www.rallyprincipe.com)



While this information even 2008 will be shortly updated news Rally Principe de Asturias 2009.
When I have the news you know will do

Ok, thank you, i was using link in ircseries.com and that doesn't work, but i have seen they write rallyeprincipe.com, that is why it doesn't work. :D

[principe IRC]

Ok, thank you, i was using link in ircseries.com and that doesn't work, but i have seen they write rallyeprincipe.com, that is why it doesn't work. :D


The term "Rallye" in a Spain that has been changed this year with "Rally" that is more European

[wwbroe]

The term "Rallye" in a Spain that has been changed this year with "Rally" that is more European

Ok, thanks for the info. Whenever you have more information, please keep us up to date. ;)

[principe IRC]

Ok, thanks for the info. Whenever you have more information, please keep us up to date. ;)

The site of the rally is already operational on Tuesday, all news coming soon.

[wwbroe]

I had a look at the regulations that are online now on their site. There is itinary as an appendix. Looks like everything stays the same as last year, only first stage will be reversed. Also looks like servicepark is at a different location. Can somebody maybe give me the gps-coordinates of service and start/finish places of all stages. Thanks in advance. :)

[principe IRC]

1/3 Salida Muño - Muncó -5,67716 43,43066
1/3 Meta Muño - Muncó -5,64306 43,41668
2/4 Salida Pajomal - Carbayin - La Rasa -5,67159 43,30659
2/4 Meta Pajomal - Carbayin - La Rasa -5,5636 43,34232
5/6/8 Salida Cesa - Valdebarcena -5,48047 43,39306
5/6/8 Meta Cesa - Valdebarcena -5,47424 43,4434
7/9 Salida Piedrafita - La Zorea - Anayo -5,3584 43,44401
7/9 Meta Piedrafita - La Zorea - Anayo -5,33704 43,40246

10/13 Salida Argame - Las mazas -5,88664 43,29915
10/13 Meta Argame - Las mazas -5,87678 43,26797
11/14 Salida La Nueva - La Invernal -5,67417 43,25889
11/14 Meta La Nueva - La Invernal -5,63223 43,28385
12/15 Salida Blimea - La Casilla - El Corvero -5,58814 43,27802
12/15 Meta Blimea - La Casilla - El Corvero -5,60081 43,3136


Salida Shakedown -5,65813 43,3988
Meta Shakedown -5,64548 43,41497

Parque Asistencias Pola de Siero -5,64952 43,3918

Archivo descargado de www.ezkufrenuracing.com (http://www.ezkufrenuracing.com)

[wwbroe]

1/3 Salida Muño - Muncó -5,67716 43,43066
1/3 Meta Muño - Muncó -5,64306 43,41668
2/4 Salida Pajomal - Carbayin - La Rasa -5,67159 43,30659
2/4 Meta Pajomal - Carbayin - La Rasa -5,5636 43,34232
5/6/8 Salida Cesa - Valdebarcena -5,48047 43,39306
5/6/8 Meta Cesa - Valdebarcena -5,47424 43,4434
7/9 Salida Piedrafita - La Zorea - Anayo -5,3584 43,44401
7/9 Meta Piedrafita - La Zorea - Anayo -5,33704 43,40246

10/13 Salida Argame - Las mazas -5,88664 43,29915
10/13 Meta Argame - Las mazas -5,87678 43,26797
11/14 Salida La Nueva - La Invernal -5,67417 43,25889
11/14 Meta La Nueva - La Invernal -5,63223 43,28385
12/15 Salida Blimea - La Casilla - El Corvero -5,58814 43,27802
12/15 Meta Blimea - La Casilla - El Corvero -5,60081 43,3136


Salida Shakedown -5,65813 43,3988
Meta Shakedown -5,64548 43,41497

Parque Asistencias Pola de Siero -5,64952 43,3918

Archivo descargado de www.ezkufrenuracing.com (http://www.ezkufrenuracing.com)

Thanks a lot, that is great help for me. ;)

[wwbroe]

1/3 Salida Muño - Muncó -5,67716 43,43066
1/3 Meta Muño - Muncó -5,64306 43,41668


Are you sure it will be Muno-Munco, because in itinary in regulations it says Munco-Muno, so reversed? ;)

[principe IRC]

Are you sure it will be Muno-Munco, because in itinary in regulations it says Munco-Muno, so reversed? ;)

:arrows: Is true, you are right.

[principe IRC]

According to his website, Aaron Burkart will be in the rally for 3rd consecutive Year.

[principe IRC]

In funchal have confirmed their presence:


M. Villa - Punto S1600 (will also Sanremo)


J. Maurin - Skoda S2000 (unconfirmed team)


M. Solowow - Peugeot S2000

[wwbroe]

In funchal have confirmed their presence:


M. Villa - Punto S1600 (will also Sanremo)


J. Maurin - Skoda S2000 (unconfirmed team)


M. Solowow - Peugeot S2000

Thanks for the info. I don't see much changes in website tough, no other news? ;)

[CricketsFilm]

Thanks for the info. I don't see much changes in website tough, no other news? ;)

Corrado Fontana 207 S2000

[wwbroe]

Corrado Fontana 207 S2000

Thanks Crickets. ;)

[4Regioni]

Mikkelsen - Opel S2000

[Tom206wrc]

Any chance to see Enrique Garcia Ojeda there with Subaru Spain :confused:

[eloyf1]

Any chance to see Enrique Garcia Ojeda there with Subaru Spain :confused:
Of course he will be, as he's the leader of his own team, Subaru Rally Team Spain. And with him, there might be Mario Ceballos (Young driver, but not impressive so far) and Egoi Eder Valdés (The one from PWRC... Not impressive either, but it's only his first rally season). The only doubt is if they're gonna race with Gr.N FIA or Gr.N+ RFEDA specs...

The ones who aren't gonna be there are the other team of Subaru Spain, Subaru Motorsport España. They have just signed a contract with Alberto Monarri, but only for some races, excluding Principe, due to lack of funding.

[Eyvind]

Map:
http://www.rallyprincipe.com/2009docs/mapa-rally-principe2009.jpg

[katxal]

Gorka Antxustegui (winner of Swift Cup 2008) confirmed with a Suzuki Swift S1600 in Rallye Principe de Asturias

http://www.noticiasderallye.com/antxustegui-principe.html

[Eyvind]

After the Barum results, Skoda will go to Asturias?

The IRC requires a great fight for the title between Meeke and Kopecky...

[JHvP]

Probably no..

[PLuto]

It isnt sure, we will see. Jan is trying to work on his start on Asturias.

[Tom206wrc]

Any idea how many S2000s will be at Principe de Asturias :confused:

Anyway entrylist will be published on wednesday september 2nd ;)

[Eyvind]

Any idea how many S2000s will be at Principe de Asturias :confused:


I think about 10-12 ... no more..
In spanish championship this year there is only one s2000...

[Eyvind]

Todor Slavov (Clio R3) will be in Asturias... ;)

interesting fight for 2RM in this rally... probably Burkart, Tlustak, Villa, Slavov, Millet... and Antxustegui (Suzuki S1600), spanish Clio R3 (Vinyes, Arias, Perez, Cima, Palacio, Mantecon.....)

There are also rumors about Luca Griotti (repeating last year's participation)

[principe IRC]

Todor Slavov (Clio R3) will be in Asturias... ;)




you are sure, or just a rumor? :)

[Eyvind]

you are sure, or just a rumor? :)

read in the Slavov press release after Barum... :D

he will fight for the 2WD ERC title with Tlustak...

see you at the rally? :s mokin:

[principe IRC]

see you at the rally? :s mokin:


if you get a holiday, we will as always :devil: :facelick:

[principe IRC]

Luca Betti could return to ERC.

http://209.85.227.132/translate_c?hl=es&ie=UTF-8&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://www.lucabetti.com/ultime/pausa-estiva-per-luca-betti-un-mese-di-intervallo-prima-dei-prossimi-impegni.html&rurl=translate.google.com.ar&usg=ALkJrhhZR0DMJ8CbwPFjoUJtJiSFMSnbKg

[Tom206wrc]

Would be good news ;)

[principe IRC]

Miguel Fuster will be the 2nd pilot Abarth.

http://www.italiaracing.net/newsrally.asp?id=1775&nome=NEWS&cart=RALLY


Pilot too conservative for my taste in Spain would have better options (Sola)

[principe IRC]

Miguel Fuster will be the 2nd pilot Abarth.

http://www.italiaracing.net/newsrally.asp?id=1775&nome=NEWS&cart=RALLY


Pilot too conservative for my taste in Spain would have better options (Sola)

In this link, read the interview to Luca Betti

[Eyvind]

Fiat has made a bad choice with Fuster. Don't fight for rally win. :(

Another who will be in Asturias is Franz Wittmann :)

[Tom206wrc]

Sure Abarth would have better sticked with Rossetti :mark:

[RS]

Fuster won't be worse than Alen, but I agree that Sola or Rossetti would have been better. Is Luca busy that weekend?

[Eyvind]

Sure Abarth would have better sticked with Rossetti :mark:

That same weekend, Rossetti is in Costa Smeralda....

[Tom206wrc]

That same weekend, Rossetti is in Costa Smeralda....



OK I noticed that a few moments after :mark:

[Ondra WRC]

Is logged Jan Kopecky?

[noel157]

Is logged Jan Kopecky?

Yes, any news on Skoda?

[Ondra WRC]

noel157: If it Kopecky logged, so about Fabia S2000 will run with the A-Style

[noel157]

noel157: If it Kopecky logged, so about Fabia S2000 will run with the A-Style

Thanks Ondra, we shall see.

[FabiaFan]

noel157: If it Kopecky logged, so about Fabia S2000 will run with the A-Style
Cannot imagine him driving anything else than "his" (works) car - whatever colours it would wear...

[Alvaro_Rally]

Great rally, great stages!

Hevia won last Spanish event with a Skoda, i think he will be on the pace and could be a good help for Kopecky.

Fuster is not a very fast driver but a reliable one, for sure he will drive his car for 5th or 6th overall and get some extra points for Abarth.

And i dont´t think the rest of the spainards (Pons, Ojeda, Vallejo) can get good standings, they will drive group N cars with FIA restrictor. When they use Spanish restrictor (36 mm instead of 32 mm) they are on the same pace of the S2000 cars, so this time they will suffer lack of power.

I´m afraid we won´t see any Porsche on the rally, that´s a pity.

[Wim_Impreza]

Porsches are not allowed in ERC and IRC. I even think Vinyes with his Clio R3 can beat the best Group N cars in Asturias in dry conditions. Ojeda was already last year a bit dissapointing speedwise and he drove a 207 S2000, so with his Subaru he won't be in top 5 and even the top 8 will be very difficult I think.

[Alvaro_Rally]

Porsches are not allowed in ERC and IRC. I even think Vinyes with his Clio R3 can beat the best Group N cars in Asturias in dry conditions. Ojeda was already last year a bit dissapointing speedwise and he drove a 207 S2000, so with his Subaru he won't be in top 5 and even the top 8 will be very difficult I think.

In the Rally de Ferrol, Ojeda and his 36 mm restrictor Subaru got exactly the same final time than Hevia and his Super 2000 Skoda (then Ojeda had a penalty).

I don´t know whether he will use a 36 or a 32 restrictor... with the first one he will be one of the fastest but he won´t appear on the IRC standings. With the second one, he will hardly struggle to get some points (top 8).

[PLuto]

With Subaru he wont appear on the IRC standings also with 32 restrictor...

[Eyvind]

Wilks & Proton will be in Asturias ;)

[noel157]

Wilks & Proton will be in Asturias ;)

No BB in the other Proton? He needs a proper run after Barum.

[Eyvind]

No BB in the other Proton? He needs a proper run after Barum.

I don´t know.
Only Wilks is confirmed.

[Alvaro_Rally]

With Subaru he wont appear on the IRC standings also with 32 restrictor...

Why not?
:confused:

[PLuto]

Why not?
:confused:

Subaru isnt registered into IRC...

[Ondra WRC]

They are logged and Jan Kopecký and Alberto Hevia?

[principe IRC]

Mikkelsen - Opel S2000

Andreas will not go.

[Eyvind]

They are logged and Jan Kopecký and Alberto Hevia?

Yes...
3 Fabia in the rally... the other is Julien Maurin.

[Eyvind]

Todor Slavov (Clio R3) will be in Asturias... ;)

interesting fight for 2RM in this rally... probably Burkart, Tlustak, Villa, Slavov, Millet... and Antxustegui (Suzuki S1600), spanish Clio R3 (Vinyes, Arias, Perez, Cima, Palacio, Mantecon.....)

There are also rumors about Luca Griotti (repeating last year's participation)

No Tlustak, no Griotti...

[wwbroe]

No Tlustak, no Griotti...

I think Pluto told me Thlustak will be in Asturias. ;)

[RS]

When is the entry list published? The Rally is only a week and a half away!

[Tom206wrc]

Tomorrow entrylist anyway...we shouldn't wait too long now :p :

[VFTS]

Andreas will not go.

Mikkelsen will the same weekend drive in the norwegian championshipevent Rally Larvik with his Impreza N14-cup. The only tarmacevent in the championship.

[principe IRC]

Web site fully operational. The organizer of te rally, very, very, very slow


Special Stages maps

http://www.rallyprincipe.com/2009eng/publico.htm

[Eyvind]

Come with us on a fantastic rally ...
You are welcome in Asturias
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_91v94jNZpk

[PLuto]

No Tlustak, no Griotti...

I have send entry form of Tlustak and have confirmation from organisers they have received it...

[tolis]

@Pluto: Do you know if Tlustak is coming to Elpa?

[PLuto]

Of course I know :s mokin:

[Eyvind]

I have send entry form of Tlustak and have confirmation from organisers they have received it...

Ok... ;)

I had seen a provisional entry list where Tlustak it was not ...
Tomorrow the official list is published.
Thanks for the information

There will be more surprises ... :)

[Tom206wrc]

One thing is sure...no Bruno Magalhaes there(concentrated on portuguese champonship where he's not currently leading) :mark:

[Francis44]

One thing is sure...no Bruno Magalhaes there(concentrated on portuguese champonship where he's not currently leading) :mark:

Yeah that's a shame he's pretty fast :( !!!!

But next year Bruno Magalães and Alexandre Camacho will contest 5 IRC rallyes with support from Peugeout Portugal and Olca!!!!

[PLuto]

Yeah that's a shame he's pretty fast :( !!!!

But next year Bruno Magalães and Alexandre Camacho will contest 5 IRC rallyes with support from Peugeout Portugal and Olca!!!!

Not so sure... :rolleyes:

[Francis44]

Not so sure... :rolleyes:

Wow you can be ;) !!!!

[PLuto]

Wow you can be ;) !!!!

But you cannot ;)

[Francis44]

But you cannot ;)

Trust me body, i know that the project is going foward!!!!

You know i've heard some talk ;) !!!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I think it's really difficult to have Camacho and Magalhães in IRC next year...

But for sure it would be interesting to see them on IRC events outside Portugal.

I would be nice for them to win some experience in foreigner rallys, for sure they need it a lot, look what Magalhães did when he was at Sanremo...

[PLuto]

Trust me body, i know that the project is going foward!!!!

You know i've heard some talk ;) !!!!

I know also lot of things. So we will see ;)

[Francis44]

I know also lot of things. So we will see ;)

We can always check for it in our Crystal balls ;) !!!!

[chryby]

toni gardemeister + corsa s2000:
http://translate.google.cz/translate?prev=hp&hl=cs&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rally-mania.cz%2Fnews.php&sl=cs&tl=en

[noel157]

toni gardemeister + corsa s2000:
http://translate.google.cz/translate?prev=hp&hl=cs&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rally-mania.cz%2Fnews.php&sl=cs&tl=en

I think Toni G, with his experience and his performance on Monte Carlo, will be the best driver so far for the Corsa. I mean specifically for the Corsa.

[Mirek]

Toni is good but not a test driver in my opinion. MSD needs someone to develop the car.

[noel157]

]Toni is good but not a test driver in my opinion. MSD needs someone to develop the car.

Is he no good at development driving? I thought he was ok in the Suzuki WRC although PGA took most of the headlines in the last few months of the car's life.
Hey, maybe I am wrong about that. If this is a one deal rally he should do ok (as far as the car will allow him).

Longterm, I agree. MSD need somebody to work on the car throughout the winter and get it competitive.

[wwbroe]

Is he no good at development driving? I thought he was ok in the Suzuki WRC although PGA took most of the headlines in the last few months of the car's life.
Hey, maybe I am wrong about that. If this is a one deal rally he should do ok (as far as the car will allow him).

Longterm, I agree. MSD need somebody to work on the car throughout the winter and get it competitive.

They need especially to work on engine development, because there is still big difference in performance with Peugeot, Skoda and Abarth. You don't need a special testdriver to make the engine better, but i agree with you guys that they need to pick somebody for the long term testwork. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

I try to make a sum-up of the S2000s on Asturias entrylist:

Abarth
Basso
Fuster
Cavigioli(???)

Peugeot
Meeke
Vouilloz
Loix
Solowow
Fontana(???)
Betti(???)

Skoda
Hevia
Kopecky
Maurin

MG
Wilks

Have I forgotten any names ???? :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

Maybe Davide di Benedetto (Peugeot 207 S2000) will be there. I think Cavigioli is almost sure to participate.

[PLuto]

No, Davide di Benedetto cancelled all international starts this year.

[Wim_Impreza]

Thanks for your answer, PLuto.

[PLuto]

I was talking to Cavigioli after Barum and he told he is thinking about start on Asturias. But he didnt knew, if the car will be Punto S2000 or Punto JTD.

[RS]

I try to make a sum-up of the S2000s on Asturias entrylist:

Abarth
Basso
Fuster
Cavigioli(???)

Peugeot
Meeke
Vouilloz
Loix
Solowow
Fontana(???)
Betti(???)

Skoda
Hevia
Kopecky
Maurin

MG
Wilks

Have I forgotten any names ???? :confused:

Gardemeister Corsa S2000 and Wilks is in the Proton, not MG :)

[RS]

Glad to see Toni back in IRC, but I would have preferred to see him in a different car. I doubt that Toni is as fast as the top IRC guys on asphalt, let alone in the Corsa...

[noel157]

I try to make a sum-up of the S2000s on Asturias entrylist:

Abarth
Basso
Fuster
Cavigioli(???)

Peugeot
Meeke
Vouilloz
Loix
Solowow
Fontana(???)
Betti(???)

Skoda
Hevia
Kopecky
Maurin

MG
Wilks

Have I forgotten any names ???? :confused:

I may have missed it but is Kopecky definitely entered? Official factory entry or semi factory or?

[PLuto]

Kopecky is on entry list, but if he will start isnt 100% sure yet.

[noel157]

Kopecky is on entry list, but if he will start isnt 100% sure yet.

Thanks PLuto. We will see what happens. Officially what is Skoda's programme for the rest of the season?

[PLuto]

Sanremo, Bohemia, Scotland

[Tom206wrc]

Today we will have final entrylist anyway ;)

[CricketsFilm]

I try to make a sum-up of the S2000s on Asturias entrylist:

Abarth
Basso
Fuster
Cavigioli(???)

Peugeot
Meeke
Vouilloz
Loix
Solowow
Fontana(???)
Betti(???)

Skoda
Hevia
Kopecky
Maurin

MG
Wilks

Have I forgotten any names ???? :confused:

Betti not goes to Oviedo...

[RS]

Sanremo, Bohemia, Scotland

Is Scotland 'for sure'?

I need to decide whether it's worth going!

[Tom206wrc]

What time entrylist :confused:


They are so long to put news on Rallyprincipe website I have the feeling the entrylist may not be available today :mark:

[Luis Pacheco]

Following the rallye program the entry list will be later at 19:00 PM CET published.

http://www.rallyprincipe.com/2009docs/programa-esp.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

OK thanks in about 20 minutes then now ;)

[wwbroe]

OK thanks in about 20 minutes then now ;)

We will see Tom, i don't think it will be there exactly at 19:00h :D

[pucky54]

http://www.rallyprincipe.com/2009docs/lista-inscritos-46rpa2009_fia.pdf

[Luis Pacheco]

Only 35 teams??? :confused:

[Mirek]

There are no Spanish non-FIA cars on the list but they are there as well.

[Luis Pacheco]

Yes, but only more 8 crews.

[RS]

That entry is a bit poor by IRC standards, but there are still 7 or 8 very strong drivers on that list.

So Kopecky is entered by Skoda Motorsport, but does this mean he will be serviced by them too (if he does indeed start)?

[Barreis]

The best names of IRC are here..

[Mirek]

RS: Yes, if he starts, than with factory team.

[RS]

]RS: Yes, if he starts, than with factory team.

When is the final decision? I guess they will have to leave MB in the next day or so.

[principe IRC]

Only 35 teams??? :confused:

Some last minute low as Cavigioli, Mantecon (Clio R3), Entrecanales (Porsche GT), Cabanela and Pelaez (Evo X)


In the remaining races of IRC, everyone local drivers wants to participate and try to do the best machine possible, while here in Spain is the opposite effect and !!!!flee!!!!!!!.

Spanish is different ;(

[Barreis]

Don't worry.. Maybe they're only motivated for national championship..

[Wim_Impreza]

That is a poor entry list, espicially in the real Group N. Wittmann Jr. will be minutes ahead of the other drivers there. There is even no Spanish topdriver like Xavier Pons or Enrique Garcia Ojeda. Sergio Vallejo and Marco Cavigioli are not there too, very strange.

[Mirek]

Pons, García - Ojeda and Vallejo are driving Spanish non-FIA cars.

[eloyf1]

That is a poor entry list, espicially in the real Group N. Wittmann Jr. will be minutes ahead of the other drivers there. There is even no Spanish topdriver like Xavier Pons or Enrique Garcia Ojeda. Sergio Vallejo and Marco Cavigioli are not there too, very strange.
Xevi Pons and Quique García Ojeda race with Gr.N+ cars, beyond Nº200, like Vallejo, who will drive his Porsche

[Wim_Impreza]

Is there a link where we can see an entry list with non FIA Group cars? Can they score points for Spanish championship?

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.rallyprincipe.com/2009docs/lista-inscritos-46rpa2009_rfeda.pdf

[Eyvind]

Some last minute low as Cavigioli, Mantecon (Clio R3), Entrecanales (Porsche GT), Cabanela and Pelaez (Evo X)


In the remaining races of IRC, everyone local drivers wants to participate and try to do the best machine possible, while here in Spain is the opposite effect and !!!!flee!!!!!!!.

Spanish is different ;(

;( ;(

[Tom206wrc]

Yep...not a very exciting entrylist though :mark:


But fight for overall victory should still be tight :)

[Mirek]

Maurin will drive completely new Fabia from Skoda Rally Team Italia (second car).

[RS]

Rumours in UK Motorsport press say that Skoda Italy are paying for Kopecky's appearance in Sanremo, and thus Skoda now have the budget for Asturias.

[Mirek]

That sounds a bit strange to me.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]Maurin will drive completely new Fabia from Skoda Rally Team Italia (second car).

It's the same car that he is driving this weekend at Mont Blanc?

[Mirek]

Yes, I think he has the new one on Mont Blanc.

[RS]

]That sounds a bit strange to me.

Me too, but that is what it says!

Autosport (same publisher as Motorsport News) says Skoda Italy will contest Sanremo and Scotland with Longhi "with the possibility that Kopecky will drive the 2nd car"

[principe IRC]

In the placement of equipment in the service park, does not appear Team P.Burgo (Evo IX) or Team S.L.Fombona (Nissan 350 GT)

http://www.rallyprincipe.com/2009docs/asistencia-equipos.pdf

This goes from bad to worse :mad:

[RS]

It is Skoda Spain who are paying for Kopecky's start in Asturias:

http://www.rallye-info.com/article.asp?sid=0&stid=8194

[noel157]

“I want to win the IRC but I want to win it by beating the best drivers and Jan is certainly one of those."

Meeke on Kopecky entering Asturias and San Remo:

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/meeke-happy-to-kop-a-bigger-challenge-14483746.html

[Tom206wrc]

No pics of cars being prepared for the rally yet ??? :confused: :confused:

[principe IRC]

No pics of cars being prepared for the rally yet ??? :confused: :confused:

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4747/09092009645.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3770/09092009639.jpg


http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4640/09092009629.jpg

[principe IRC]

The weather will be sunny and hot, although the first stages of the morning may have some treacherous damp.

Good Luck to all drivers

[noel157]

For those that have been to previous Asturias events what other event can it be compared too? Is it as specialised as Acores or more of a Corsica type of rally? Or something else?

[alterdaxter]

I slept too long and wasn't able to do my pickem. Let's see where I arrive now...

[Dejan]

Shakedown results are online:http://www.masrallye.com/principeastur/09/online/sk.html

[noel157]

Interesting, Hevia in the Fabia fastest so far by 2.7, followed by Meeke.

[RS]

Skoda 1-2 so far, Hevia doesn't surprise me, he is fast and very spectacular!

[noel157]

Now Hervia and Meeke separated by 0.6 secs.

[Mirek]

For those that have been to previous Asturias events what other event can it be compared too? Is it as specialised as Acores or more of a Corsica type of rally? Or something else?

Pluto said after recce that the long stages are beautiful, twisty, often narrow, sometimes wide, different types of tarmac of various quality. No circuit-like terrain. He said that short stages are worse than those long ones also in quality.

Results for non-FIA cars: http://www.masrallye.com/principeastur/09/online/sk200.html

[noel157]

]Pluto said after recce that the long stages are beautiful, twisty, often narrow, sometimes wide, different types of tarmac of various quality. No circuit-like terrain. He said that short stages are worse than those long ones also in quality.

Results for non-FIA cars: http://www.masrallye.com/principeastur/09/online/sk200.html

Real asphalt rally stages then? Looking forward to it.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I hope for a good weather in Spain in order to compare Vallejo's times to the top S2000 cars...

In the Shakedown he was only 0,4 sec. slower than Hevia...

[Tom206wrc]

Bring on tomorrow's action :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4747/09092009645.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3770/09092009639.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/4640/09092009629.jpg



Thanks for the pics :up:

[wwbroe]

We were in shakedown this morning, before doing some recce for the stages. The stages are almost the same as last year, only the first stage is reversed. In shakedown i was surprised by the pace of Hevia to be honoust. His first run wasn't that good, but the other ones were really fast. You can see by eye that the Skoda's has the better power, they are pushing like hell. Meeke was really clean on all of his runs, on the other hand Kopecky was all over the place. I think Vouilloz did only three runs, but his times were not that bad. Loix changed suspension a few times and wasn't that bad either. On the other hand Gardemeister and Wilks weren't quick at all, especially the cars doesn't show much power. Basso is quite willing but i think Abarth is down on power. We will see tomorrow on the stages if the situation will remain the same as shown on today's shakedown. Personally i think this shake isn't that representative of the stages. They are far more twisty than the shakedown, so we will see tomorrow. :)

[Barreis]

I really look forward what Corsa S2000 MSD can do against works teams..

[noel157]

I really look forward what Corsa S2000 MSD can do against works teams..

Nothing. Still going to be 1 - 1.5 secs a km off the pace. Next season will be useful for the team if development, especially power wise, can progress.

[Barreis]

Maybe Toni G. can do something more 'cos he drove S2000 machinery and Mikkelsen didn't..

[Luis Pacheco]

Last year I remember one radio that made a great job during the rallye but I no longer remember the name. Any help please from nuestros hermanos? :D

[principe IRC]

Last year I remember one radio that made a great job during the rallye but I no longer remember the name. Any help please from nuestros hermanos? :D

Cadena Cope Asturias.

Since the 10.00 live.

[noel157]

Can't find the Výsledky page. Help.

[Mirek]

http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/erc/asturias/1all.php

[Luis Pacheco]

Cadena Cope Asturias.

Since the 10.00 live.

Gracias!

[noel157]

Mirek, díky moc.

[Moriarty]

First leader is Hevia Alberto on Fabia. Basso looks very strong in first SS.

[WRC1]

what doea this mean?

Maurin-SALIDA CTRA.

thx

reg

wrc1

[Tom206wrc]

Maurin already off :s

[Tom206wrc]

Also Solowow was quite slow on the short SS1 :mark:

[WRC1]

Maurin already off :s

:) this Maurin guy very fast develops to the rautenbach of IRC ;)

[Mirek]

Maurin already off :s

Do You mean he went off?

[Tom206wrc]

Shouldn't SS2 first times be available now :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

]Do You mean he went off?


Yep off road :mark:

[WRC1]

Yep off road :mark:

here they are!

solowow is the first on the road, thats why it takes a little bit longer for the times to come in ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Meeke lost only 2.6s to Basso on SS2 :)

[Tom206wrc]

Loix is losing too much time for a driver with experience on this event :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

What battle between Kopecky and Meeke. 0,5 seconds on almost 30 km long stage. Basso seems to be very strong again :)

[WRC1]

Abarth again, after Madeira, very strong!

basso is still the faster than meeke and kopecky!

very good for the championship!

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz in the lead :bounce:

But Hevia hasn't his time yet so careful :mark:

[Mirek]

Wilks setting quite good times compared to Madeira. Seems they made some development on Proton.

[Tom206wrc]

It takes a bit long time for Fuster's time :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

News ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

Doesn't look good for Fuster in the moment...

[Mirek]

SMS from Pluto: Fuster crashed. Crew ok, stage cancelled.

[Tom206wrc]

:mark:

[karlzoro]

Loix is losing too much time for a driver with experience on this event :rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :(

[RS]

Will other crews be given a notional time?

Hope it is not too unfair on Hevia.

[Mirek]

Hevia was given Basso's time.

[Tom206wrc]

SS3 in about 12 minutes... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Solowow finished SS3... :)

[Mirek]

Helmet-cam video from skahedown by Meeke and Nagle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BurFkczrNlM

[RS]

Skoda 1-2 on SS3 :)

Basso and Vouilloz very strong here.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Skoda 1-2 on SS3 :)

Basso and Vouilloz very strong here.

Yes, both drivers had some bad luck this year... I hope a good result for both!

[J4MIE]

Hope Vouilloz can keep it going until the end for a change :)

[Wim_Impreza]

I don't hope for a good result for Vouilloz. I don't have him in my pickems after his bad luck / accidents this year.

Who said here that Fuster is always at the finish...

[Barreis]

]Helmet-cam video from skahedown by Meeke and Nagle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BurFkczrNlM

Nice work.. This attracts fans..

[Mirek]

Info from Pluto: Maurin went off without damage to the car. He only couldn't get back. Will restart tomorrow. Fuster crashed near finish maybe because of brake failure (rumour among the crews). Slavov damaged wheel on SS2 but was given notional time as everyone else.

[Mirek]

Where is Meeke?

[RS]

Meeke though, but +2m50, puncture?

[noel157]

]Where is Meeke?

Lost nearly 3 mins, not good.

[Forde-fotos]

What happend Kris ?
:confused:

[noel157]

Meeke punctured, stopped to change wheel. Down to 14th in GC, 3 mins off lead. Plenty of stages left....

[WRC1]

Lost nearly 3 mins, not good.

not good for meeke, but good for kopecky, skoda and the championship...

[Francis44]

Shame about Meeke, he's not been lucky in those last 2 rally's. Kopecky job now may be stay on the road!!!!

[Mirek]

For sure, he just needs to finish.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Slavov is proving that he is really a good driver.

Look ate overall standings... he is only 9,1 behind Vinyes who is a really good Spanish driver.

[Mirek]

Ojeda, Pons and Vallejo were a lot slower compared to S2000 drivers in this stage which is not that wide and fast.

[noel157]

It's a big ask but Meeke is 2 mins off 6th, 11 stages to go and there may be some attrition (mechanical/offs etc) so....

[Wim_Impreza]

Vouilloz is much faster in this rally than I thought. Of course he was second last year, but I didn't expect he will be fighting for the lead now.

[Mirek]

It seems that some experience is nercessary here. Both Kopecky and Meeke are the only top drivers who never started in Asturias before.

[Francis44]

Much impressed with Hevia, he's car is new and already going fast!!!!

[chryby]

Much impressed with Hevia, he's car is new and already going fast!!!!

czech fans are impressed too :p

[noel157]

Much impressed with Hevia, he's car is new and already going fast!!!!

I agree, ok local knowledge but still impressive driving with so many good crews behind him.

[Mirek]

And especialy when he was driving very rarely last year and made only one rally with Fabia before :)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]And especialy when he was driving very rarely last year and made only one rally with Fabia before :)

Yes... but don't forget he is a very experienced and good driver and he have some experience with an S2000 (VW Polo). and plus his local knowledge.

He is doing a fantastic job!

[RS]

It seems a customer Fabia is a very good car, perhaps the best "customer car"

But even considering that, Hevia is very impressive.

What is more, is that he is great to watch, here is his first test with the Fabia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrtMfLZRSuU

[Helstar]

Nice from Hevia, didn't know him ... very good. How old is he ?

[Francis44]

It seems a customer Fabia is a very good car, perhaps the best "customer car"

But even considering that, Hevia is very impressive.

What is more, is that he is great to watch, here is his first test with the Fabia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrtMfLZRSuU

Yeah but i heard Skoda does not sell last specification cars for privateers!!!!

I think i heard too that Sá was thinking on buying one but because of the reason stated above he quited. Is this true??!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Nice from Hevia, didn't know him ... very good. How old is he ?

He is about 34 years old...

Hevia was Spanish champion in 2004 when he was driving for Renault Team Spain.

Last year he won the EVO CUP in Spain and in 2007 he was 2nd overall in the championship with the Polo S2000, he lost ht championship in the last race when he was forced to retire with problems in the car...

[RS]

Yeah but i heard Skoda does not sell last specification cars for privateers!!!!


I thought that they did, but that Peugeot and Abarth do not?

In my opinion, they all should. In IRC it is within the manufacturers interest to have private cars performing as well as possible.

[MJW]

[quote="Francis44"]Yeah but i heard Skoda does not sell last specification cars for privateers!!!!
QUOTE]

I guess thats the biggest hint that Skoda will join the WRC!

[Francis44]

I thought that they did, but that Peugeot and Abarth do not?

In my opinion, they all should. In IRC it is within the manufacturers interest to have private cars performing as well as possible.

That's what i heard, maybe Mirek can clarifie us :D !!!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Yeah but i heard Skoda does not sell last specification cars for privateers!!!!

I think i heard too that Sá was thinking on buying one but because of the reason stated above he quited. Is this true??!!

I still think that the last evolution of offical teams is the knowledge of the car, mechanical abilities and drivers abilities... not mainly in the car.

Look at the results some privateers achieve with private cars... for ex. Travaglia and Basso

[Mirek]

Yeah but i heard Skoda does not sell last specification cars for privateers!!!!

I think i heard too that Sá was thinking on buying one but because of the reason stated above he quited. Is this true??!!

In my opinion You can't get absolutely same car as factory car from any manufacturer. It doesn't matter if Abarth, Peugeot or Skoda. Factory cars are always a step forward (for sure this step is much smaller than in WRC). Otherwise it's about how much You pay, that good car You get.

Anyway, here is one Skoda...
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_XA6CHZBISRA/SqojEDY60-I/AAAAAAAACp0/Bh-XEajTfBU/s720/DSC_0038.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_XA6CHZBISRA/SqojT1yo7bI/AAAAAAAACp8/dnWdEfV3hSw/s720/DSC_0040.jpg
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_XA6CHZBISRA/SqojJvgxtzI/AAAAAAAACp4/gGpEJaWeq2s/s720/DSC_0052.jpg

[Helstar]

]He is about 34 years old...-cut-

Thanx for all the infos ;) I thought he was younger :D but nowadays it's not important, you can still be very fast even after 40 years (look at Andreucci =)

[Francis44]

Wow i thought the green Skoda Maurin had in Madeira was more beautifull!!!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Thanx for all the infos ;) I thought he was younger :D but nowadays it's not important, you can still be very fast even after 40 years (look at Andreucci =)

Yes, Andreucci, Longhi, Travaglia and sometimes Aghini ;)

[cyr]

radio live

http://www.copeasturias.com/directo.php

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like it could be best 2009 event so far for Vouilloz(along with Rally Curitiba) :)

[noel157]

Kris Meeke blog is reporting that a broken injector and malfunctioning electrical components have been replaced in service. Should go a bit better this afternoon.
This is going to be a good event, especially tomorrow.

[Tom206wrc]

OK SS6 running ;)

[Tom206wrc]

It's a pitty we don't get split times on this events(and previous events...except Barum) :(

[Tom206wrc]

Meeke almost as fast as Basso ;)

[Alvaro_Rally]

Good rally for Hevia but I think that on the second time on every stage, the foreign drivers will improve.

Don´t forget the Spanish championship, Ojeda, Pons and Vallejo are only 30 sec behind Hevia. Hevia will want to win the rally but he aims to win the championship.

[Mirek]

How can he win the championship when he wasn't starting all season until Ferrol? ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]How can he win the championship when he wasn't starting all season until Ferrol? ;)

It's impossible to win the championship, Hevia is thinking only in overall result, no chance to win something in Spanish champ. ;)

[Alvaro_Rally]

In the Spanish championship drivers get their seven best results.

There are five rallies left: Príncipe Asturias, Llanes, Shalymar, Costa Brava and Sierra Morena. Hevia have won one rally: Ferrol.

And the winner of Príncipe Asturias gets some extra points (bigger coefficient).

For sure if Hevia wins tomorrow, he will fight for the championship!

[PLuto]

Result of Fuster´s crash

http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=31&p=26842#p26836

[Alvaro_Rally]

Scratch for Vallejo with the Porsche 911! 6:44.8

The best S2000 (Basso) was 6:45.5

[Tom206wrc]

Vallejo faster than Basso on SS6 :eek:

Impossible if the GTs are downgraded compared to the S2000s in IRC :confused:

[Alvaro_Rally]

Vallejo faster than Basso on SS6 :eek:

Impossible if the GTs are downgraded compared to the S2000s in IRC :confused:

Welcome to Spain...

... Spanish GTs are really impressive!

[PLuto]

On faster and wider roads this "group B" Porsche must be faster...

[Alvaro_Rally]

On faster and wider roads this "group B" Porsche must be faster...

I think so. I prefer S2000 cars like this one... beautiful!

http://www.marcompeticion.es/nacional09/principe0657_std.jpg

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Vallejo faster than Basso on SS6 :eek:

Impossible if the GTs are downgraded compared to the S2000s in IRC :confused:

Don't forget Vallejo have a SUPER Porsche!!! :s mokin:

[Mirek]

Yes, his car is no common GT but circuit special from SuperCup...

Tom: GTs are not running in IRC, so they don't need to be downgraded anyhow. Vallejo is in Spanish champ classiffication only.

[Tom206wrc]

First times SS7 in ;)

[Mirek]

"Nice" battle for European tittle between Basso and Solowow...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Maybe something wrong with Solowow in this event.. he is being much slower than he use to be...

He is even slower than Gard. with the Corsa... maybe the Corsa have improved something, but Solowow is disappointing a lot

[Tom206wrc]

Loix ???? :confused:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

something wrong with Loix... he lost more than 2 min.... maybe a puncture

[Alvaro_Rally]

Some problems on the stage, he is in the finish.

[Alvaro_Rally]

Basso new leader of the rally!!!

[Mirek]

Proton goes quite well here compared to Madeira.

[Tom206wrc]

Could he have disturbed Vouilloz who lost quite "a lot"(compared to usual on today's past stages) ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

Very interesting on the top. Anything may happen :)

[HaCo]

Very nice competition again!!! :-)

Who said tarmac events are boring? :p

Pitty the second Abarth is out already. They have another season of to many offs and bad lucks... :( But Basso in the lead, I wish him victory, such a great tarmac driver!

[pucky54]

]Proton goes quite well here compared to Madeira.

Yes, looks very promising. 0.6sec/km is okay on tarmac for this "new" car ;)
Hopefully Guy can keep the speed and bring home this result.

[HaCo]

Loix looses 2 mins :(

[Tom206wrc]

News about what happened to Fast Freddy :confused:

[Alvaro_Rally]

They did´t say anything on the radio about Loix, I don´t know.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Some pictures
http://www.marcompeticion.es/nacional09/rprincipe.htm