[IRC] Rallye Principe de Asturias 2009

[Wim_Impreza]

Bye bye the last championship chances for Loix. He isn't so fast as last year and this was his last chance to win an IRC rally this year. In Sanremo there are the locals and in Scotland gravel.

Go Jan, I hope you can take as many points as possible.

[sal]

I've lost touch with the Spanish championship this year. I thought the Porsches had been thrown out for a technical infringment. Was there an appeal which they won?

[Tom206wrc]

Rally is still long though :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

I've lost touch with the Spanish championship this year. I thought the Porsches had been thrown out for a technical infringment. Was there an appeal which they won?

Vallejo was excluded once because his broken car was pushed by the car of another driver which is not allowed. It was just one rally.

By the way Kopecký said in the service that it's very hard to drive these stages for the first time fast. He said he had brake problems on last 9 km of SS2. He also said that the first stage was the first in his life when he had to use extra lights for first morning stage :)

[noel157]

News about what happened to Fast Freddy :confused:

Puncture.

[dimviii]

]Some pictures
http://www.marcompeticion.es/nacional09/rprincipe.htm
Τhanks Madeira!
extreme cut from Garde :eek:
http://www.marcompeticion.es/nacional09/principe0611.htm

[Mirek]

Even more ;)
http://www.marcompeticion.es/nacional09/principe0635_std.jpg

[dimviii]

What happened to Pons and Ojeda in ss7? :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

Nothing, they are both in finish in good times.

[Tom206wrc]

OK so puncture for Loix too in SS7 ;(

[dimviii]

]Nothing, they are both in finish in good times.
Thanks Mirek,i just can t see them at ewrc.cz.

[Tom206wrc]

10 minutes before start SS8 ;)

[PLuto]

Quotes from drivers after SS 5 on http://www.rally-erc.com. I dont know why nobody put the link here...

[Mirek]

Because they don't work...

dimviii: Here You can see clearly which car is FIA-allowed and which not. Spanish championship is under button "Spanish" :) http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/erc/asturias/8all.php Or use original masrallye results.

EDIT: MP3 fixed.

[PLuto]

Here in Spain they are working :)

[Tom206wrc]

No time SS8 yet :confused:

[dimviii]

]Because they don't work...

dimviii: Here You can see clearly which car is FIA-allowed and which not. Spanish championship is under button "Spanish" :) http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/erc/asturias/8all.php Or use original masrallye results.

EDIT: MP3 fixed.

Thanks again Mirek! :)

[Mirek]

Here in Spain they are working :)

Yes, because Karbonyl fixed them a minute a go :D

[PLuto]

Karbonyl was making it, I am not able to connect to FTP here in Spain, so we must cooperate together. Now I am preparing some pictures from service.

[Tom206wrc]

But hasn't SS8 started, or problem with live results service ??? :mark:

[Mirek]

Stage delayed because of spectators.

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Mirek ;)

[Karbonyl]

]Yes, because Karbonyl fixed them a minute a go :D Everything is workin' now. If someone was listening to "Page 404", then sorry for that :)

[PLuto]

SS 8 cancelled

[Karbonyl]

Any news about SS 8 delay?

[Tom206wrc]

SS 8 cancelled


:s

[Tom206wrc]

When does SS9 start :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

When does SS9 start :confused:

18:59, see here: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=f1ff49286b6aa2b611925045b548f1d4

[Tom206wrc]

Alright but with lateness in SS8 schedule could have changed :mark:

[PLuto]

I think it will be little later :)

[Wim_Impreza]

Had Tlusťák problems or what happened to him?

[HaCo]

Damn, it's taking lonh...

[noel157]

Stage 9 is live, first sweeper just through.

[Tom206wrc]

At last :p :

[HaCo]

Hope everybody has their lights on :)

[Mirek]

Garde went off :(

[Tom206wrc]

No time yet for the drivers after Garde :confused:

Edit: OK

[Tom206wrc]

Meeke 4.8s faster than Basso :)

[Tom206wrc]

Kopecky fastest now ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz ??? :confused:

[HaCo]

Pitty of Garde, was having a good race for the new car...

[Mirek]

Ou, another Kronos puncture probably!

[noel157]

Vouilloz should be through shortly.

[HaCo]

Vouilloz ??? :confused:

Lost 2,5 mins... pitty for him :(

[HaCo]

Basso stays in front of Hevia, great for him (also in ERC).

[HaCo]

Where's guy wilks?

[noel157]

Vouilloz had minor off and/or punture, some damage to car.

[Mirek]

+4:40 :(

[pucky54]

]+4:40 :(

F*ck

[RS]

It seems this is not Peugeot's rally.

We still have a great battle at the front, and Basso is proving again what a star he is.

[Tom206wrc]

Wilks big loss too :s

[Tom206wrc]

Nightmare for Pug fans ;( ;(

[Wim_Impreza]

Never thought Fontana would be the first Peugeot driver after the first day...

Nightmare Tom? You have still 5 Pug's in the top 8.

[Mirek]

Burkart also lost a lot of time.

[Ondra WRC]

Kronos tactic, it is not nice

[Karbonyl]

Had Tlusťák problems or what happened to him?
No, this is his ordinary "flatout"...

[Wim_Impreza]

No, this is his ordinary "flatout"...

Thanks, but last year he was a bit 'faster', as example in Antibes.

[Mirek]

Kronos tactic, it is not nice

What? Tactics will probably come tomorrow but so far there was no tactics at all.

[RS]

A small report from this mornings stages on Spanish local TV: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIa8JMymtoM

[Karbonyl]

Thanks, but last year he was a bit 'faster', as example in Antibes.
To be honest he is saving the car for next week's Rally Pribram in CZ. But anyway... Running around the whole Europe with an ex-factory machine and fight only for ERC 2WD points, where is no competition, and having no other ambitions, is simply "funny".

[Mirek]

Vouilloz puncture, Wilks gearbox problem plus puncture later in the stage.

[wwbroe]

Both punctures from Loix and Vouilloz were because a bolt of suspension perforated the rim, a problem they never encountered before. In fact the tyres were still intact but the rim broke because perforation.
For the rest looking forward for big fight for victory tomorrow, unfortunally without the Peugeot's. :)

[Mirek]

Can You describe what happend? I can hardly imagine how some suspension part colides with the rim without some major damage to the suspension.

[RS]

Hevia hit a pole and damaged his steering, hence he lost a bit of speed at the end of today.

Some further news: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78523

[dimviii]

Μeeke faster at ss10,but i can t see to climb more than 5th position.

[Mirek]

If he gets behind Vouilloz, they may play tacticts to help him in championship fight...

[COD]

]Garde went off :(

Apparently lost brakes and that caused the off

[Mirek]

Basso??? He lost 7 minutes on SS12 :(

[darkstar]

]Basso??? He lost 7 minutes on SS12 :(

any info what happened to him? poor basso and abarth, im really sorry for them. basso did very well so far.

[Mirek]

According to rumours he was off road.

[Tom206wrc]

Incredible how lucky start to become the Pug drivers suddenly :eek:

But they had their unluck yesterday with punctures :rolleyes:

[noel157]

Yes, Basso went off - wonder if he got stuck off road, car doesn't look too bad:

http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/p_2048_1536_FA305C3E-F0EF-4A95-BE96-8B965B6FCD39.jpeg

[RS]

Just a dent in Giando's car.

I do wonder whether there is something in the theory that the Abarth drivers have to push harder to keep up and that is why we tend to see more errors from them.

[Mirek]

I believe they have especialy when Basso is the only one to be able to keep the pace. He said in Ypres that he has to take a big risk.

[noel157]

Will M van Dalen have a word with Vouilloz?

[noel157]

Basso damaged the clutch/transmission when he went off.

[HaCo]

Pitty for Basso and for the rally :(

Meeke will be third, hope the Skoda's will slow down to make it to the finish. Do you guys realise that this could be the third overall victory for Skoda in IRC, who would have tought that??? :D :D :D (I'm happy for them!)

[RS]

Will M van Dalen have a word with Vouilloz?

I don't think so, because although Kronos prepare both cars (Meeke and Nico) they are funded separate, so I guess it is up to Peugeot Belgium...

[HaCo]

RS, I think (and it's only a guess), peugeot has something to say as well and I'm sure Meeke will get the position from Nicolas.

I saw the Eurosport tv show yesterday and Loix said he has to use setup of Vouilloz, and he is not happy about it. He cannot find confidence (in the rear end). Why does he have to use THAT setup and why can't he change it? Maybe he should (or will) have to look for another drive for next year. I'm dreaming out loud, but a Fiesta S2000 run by a Belgian team Floral Racing would be great ;) (this is just me dreaming, not even a rumour!!!).

[noel157]

I don't think so, because although Kronos prepare both cars (Meeke and Nico) they are funded separate, so I guess it is up to Peugeot Belgium...

That makes sense and I'm sure Meeke would rather earn 3rd than be given it.

[Mirek]

It's not first time, Loix had to use Vouilloz's setup on Madeira as well.

[Wim_Impreza]

Wilks lost 15 minutes in SS11.

Nice fight for the IRC 2WD title. Millet is only 20 seconds ahead of Villa.

[Mirek]

According to PLuto both Basso and Wilks made spin that way that their front wheels were off road and there were no spectators around to push them back quickly.

[Wim_Impreza]

Thanks Mirek and PLuto.

[noel157]

SS13 should be live by now.

[noel157]

Looks like the 2 Fabias are consolidating their positions and driving to the finish.

[darkstar]

and no teamorder from kronos yet.

[Jordib]

Program live from Service Park now on Asturias TV:

http://www.rtpa.es/portal/site/rtpa/menuitem.7fe059dd11b171fd9ddbe4f3bb30a0a0/?vgnextoid=b2861e54439d9010VgnVCM100000bb030a0aRCR D

[noel157]

Program live from Service Park now on Asturias TV:

http://www.rtpa.es/portal/site/rtpa/menuitem.7fe059dd11b171fd9ddbe4f3bb30a0a0/?vgnextoid=b2861e54439d9010VgnVCM100000bb030a0aRCR D

Will we get any stage coverage?

[Jordib]

Will we get any stage coverage?

I don't think... now they stopped the program and return at 15:00 from SP to follow the end of rally they said.

[noel157]

I don't think... now they stopped the program and return at 15:00 from SP to follow the end of rally they said.


Yes, seems to be local news about cows and things, good link when they were covering the rally.

[RS]

Seems Abarth have a problem engaging their reverse gear, this was Basso's main problem today, also had to drive cautious in Madeira because of it and I think Alen had the same problem when he spun on the final stage on Azores:
http://www.ircseries.com/html/readNews.asp?id=1325

[noel157]

Hevia may have a problem on the stage, no details.

[Mirek]

Yes, he is not in finish :(

Edit: +4:14...

[noel157]

He's just arrived stage finish, puncture.

[RS]

Ohhh no :(

Bad luck for Hevia after a fabulous drive.

[noel157]

Rally is not over yet. Anything can happen.

[RS]

Kopecky through, phew! Great run for Skoda, winning their last 3 events.

[Mirek]

Yeah, a bit lucky victory but that counts as well. Great job, Jan! :)

Pitty for Slavov who retired with mechanical problem on SS14...

[dimviii]

i am curious to see if we are going to have cooking from Kronos :p :

edit from Vouilloz time,i don t think so.

[Mirek]

There are still plenty of opportunities to do something with time penalties etc. I hope not...

[Mirek]

PLuto said that Van Dalen told him that they will not apply any tactics.

[noel157]

]PLuto said that Van Dalen told him that they will not apply any tactics.

Although 2nd would've been good for Meeke it's good to see no tactics. The less like WRC the better.
Another good rally and a good win from Jan. Only guy not to get a puncture.
It would've been very interesting if Meeke hadn't suffered a puncture and we had a straight fight between the Fabias and the Pugs. But I guess that's rallying.
Roll on San Remo.

[noel157]

Vouilloz very lucky, got a puncture near stage end:

Picture - http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/l_2048_1536_CF08C683-58D6-4B12-A612-430B298FD78C.jpeg

[Barreis]

San Remo will be great rally..

[dimviii]

San Remo will be great rally..

+1

Congrats to Jan ,well deserved victory,through his carefull driving avoiding flat tyres.

at ss9 all(3!) evo X from RMC motorsport retired.Anybody knows the reason? :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

Now Sanremo, a bit easyier situation for Jan as he was there last year as zero car while Kris will be there for the first time. Than Scotland where I expect Kris to be faster. Juho Hänninen may play a crucial role there as he may be the only one able to steal points from Meeke.

[Tom206wrc]

Congratulations to Jan Kopecky and Skoda great job :up:

Fantastic 2-3-4 for Kronos too(and unexpected after their unluck of yesterday) :bounce:

And Solowow increases lead over Basso in ERC :p :

[Hartusvuori]

Vouilloz very lucky, got a puncture near stage end:

Picture - http://blog.krismeeke.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/l_2048_1536_CF08C683-58D6-4B12-A612-430B298FD78C.jpeg



Vouilloz takes 4m penalty, leaves service behind Kris. Result 1Kopec 2Meeke 3Vouilloz. Kris still leads IRC by 1pt

http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/09/kris-gets-2nd/

[noel157]

]Now Sanremo, a bit easyier situation for Jan as he was there last year as zero car while Kris will be there for the first time. Than Scotland where I expect Kris to be faster. Juho Hänninen may play a crucial role there as he may be the only one able to steal points from Meeke.

+1. I think it's going to go down to the wire in Scotland. Kopecky has to be favourite for San Remo but as we've seen this weekend we can't take anything for granted (and with 9 stages it'll be hard to play catch-up for anybody).

A fantastic championship.

[dimviii]

http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/09/kris-gets-2nd/

wrc way... :mad:

[noel157]

Although 2nd would've been good for Meeke it's good to see no tactics. The less like WRC the better.
Another good rally and a good win from Jan. Only guy not to get a puncture.
It would've been very interesting if Meeke hadn't suffered a puncture and we had a straight fight between the Fabias and the Pugs. But I guess that's rallying.
Roll on San Remo.

Cooking? Hmmm...

[Mirek]

Well, not that suprising...

[noel157]

I imagine if Hevia had been ahead of Kopecky it would also have happened.

I believe Nicolas offered to let Kris through. A nice sporting gesture from a team mate.

[hari]

http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/09/kris-gets-2nd/

:down: :down: :down: :down:

[Helstar]

Basso epic fail as usual -.-

But indeed he pushes like a mad ... very hard to stay on the road with that rhythm.

[noel157]

From Autosport.com:

"Proton driver Guy Wilks hit trouble this morning, having climbed as high as fifth place yesterday. The Englishman went off on some loose gravel - which he says was put there deliberately by spectators - in a braking area on today's second stage."

[Luis Pacheco]

Review first day (Asturias TV)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBGFFPQAonI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWQjftr4XQ4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LmY6LvNM_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bds-8THzRz4

[Barreis]

Thanks for videos.. :)

[Mirek]

On this video You can see Basso's off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6hWL8OTYqU

[Juha_Koo]

The less like WRC the better.

There's absolutely nothing WRCish in tactics. Rally is a sport and where there's a competition, there's tactics. That's just how it goes. I'm amused by the fact that some people just don't get it.

[Helstar]

]On this video You can see Basso's off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6hWL8OTYqU
Weird, it wasn't a tight corner ... unlike in Ypres ^^;

[noel157]

There's absolutely nothing WRCish in tactics. Rally is a sport and where there's a competition, there's tactics. That's just how it goes. I'm amused by the fact that some people just don't get it.

That's your view Mr Koo. I expressed my view. Others expressed their views.
But please don't patronise me with this "that's how it goes" nonsense. We'll all aware of what goes on, we're all aware why it goes on. We all "get it", doesn't mean I or indeed others have to agree with it.

In this particular case, as I mentioned earlier, I believe Vouilloz offered the place to Meeke rather than being ordered by the team. That being the case it was a gentlemanly gesture.

[dimviii]

. We all "get it", doesn't mean I or indeed others have to agree with it.


+1000

[Barreis]

Louise Becket is beautiful.. I hope WRC will find some girl to present sport in better way.. To much male sweat around it.. :)

[Juha_Koo]

That's your view Mr Koo. I expressed my view. Others expressed their views.
But please don't patronise me with this "that's how it goes" nonsense. We'll all aware of what goes on, we're all aware why it goes on. We all "get it", doesn't mean I or indeed others have to agree with it.

In this particular case, as I mentioned earlier, I believe Vouilloz offered the place to Meeke rather than being ordered by the team. That being the case it was a gentlemanly gesture.

I'm not patronizing you or anyone else. :)

I personally just don't understand how people can't accept it's part of the sport. You don't have to explain it to me, everyone has a right to have their own opinion and I duly respect it. I'm not on a crusade here.

However, I don't understand the logic how you make a tactical decision (which you hate) a gentlemanly gesture because the "active participant" is a driver and not a team manager. Drivers drive in a team so they have to be team players. Now that Vouilloz gave up his spot, Meeke climbs up to second and that's okay. If the team manager would have ordered this, the final results would have been the same but that would have been dirty tactics... Even though this time it was the drivers decision, it's still tactics. I appreciate Vouilloz for doing that, but I would have appreciated the team manager just as much if it would have been his decision. :)

[Barreis]

Maybe Nicolas wants to be sure for next season..

[Mirek]

In my opinion it was team decision but that doesn't matter. Funny that Kopecký may lost the tittle battle because they didn't apply tactics in Russia. But for Škoda tittle wasn't a target this year, they wanted to promote the car by a couple of victories and that was achieved. The fact Kopecký is in a fight for the crown is more a nice bonus :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

:down: for Kronos


Congratulations for Kopecky!

[Wim_Impreza]

Congratulations for Kopecký and Škoda Motorsport. A pity that Hevia had that puncture, that means 2 points extra for Meeke.

Again teamorders by Kronos. They did it so much times in the past and now again. There are so much Pug’s and still they use teamorders.

Much respect for Kopecký, Hänninen and Škoda Motorsport, they didn’t do that in Russia. Probably an Italian wins Sanremo, but I hope Jan can keep Meeke behind him in that rally too. I hope the recce that he did last year in Sanremo will help him.

[Forde-fotos]

Go on Kris, I'm absolutely delighted for him, a great recovery from the puncture :) , tactics are part of the game guys and they make the sport more interesting.
Well done to Kris and Kronos :D :D

[RS]

If the title does go down to the wire it could be the case that Hanninen might now have to do the same for Kopecky in Scotland, that would be a shame as IRC does generally seem a little less plagued by tactical nonsense than WRC.

[Wim_Impreza]

Go on Kris, I'm absolutely delighted for him, a great recovery from the puncture :) , tactics are part of the game guys and they make the sport more interesting.
Well done to Kris and Kronos :D :D

They make the sport more interesting? You only said that because Meeke has now a second place and no third place.

[Mirek]

A short translation of what Kopecký said:

"I wasn't surprised. After the first stage of the last loop I asked Kris if they would swap possitions and he said yes. I thought to myself it was all right, I couldn't change it anyhow. It's their decission."

[Ucci]

Fabia is equivalent to Peugeot-no doubt about that, regardless of the surface....This is excellent comercial for Škoda Motorsport, I think they will sell many Fabias to the private teams during winter pause. Abarth is still not for the old rubbish, Basso will be in San Remo definitely benchmark for others.

[Barreis]

It will be great competition in San Remo..

[Forde-fotos]

They make the sport more interesting? You only said that because Meeke has now a second place and no third place.

And you dont like them because he took two points back from Jan Kopecky.
Tactics play a part in every sport and motorsport is no different. It comes down to who is able to use them better.

[cut the b.s.]

And you dont like them because he took two points back from Jan Kopecky.
Tactics play a part in every sport and motorsport is no different. It comes down to who is able to use them better.

You are entitled to your own view point, but still you are wrong.
Tactics dont pollute every sport yet thankfully, I thought the IRC was above them, I was wrong on this, Peugeot thanks to the number of competitors have many more chances to screw results, and it stinks a bit in my opinion.

Ps.I am and have been a fan of both Meeke and Kopecky for years now, they are 2 great drivers, and I really hope this isnt how the championship is decided

[Forde-fotos]

As I said it comes down to who is able to use the tactics better, Skoda had the chance to let Jan finish ahead of Juho in Russia and they failed to do so, Peugeot got there oppurtunity today, they took it and rightly so.

[cut the b.s.]

As I said it comes down to who is able to use the tactics better, Skoda had the chance to let Jan finish ahead of Juho in Russia and they failed to do so, Peugeot got there oppurtunity today, they took it and rightly so.

In your opinion... Are you so desperite for success for 'your man' that you feel the manner that it is achieved in is not important? Tune in to a bit of Moto GP to you see how team mates should treat each other :)

[Francis44]

As I said it comes down to who is able to use the tactics better, Skoda had the chance to let Jan finish ahead of Juho in Russia and they failed to do so, Peugeot got there oppurtunity today, they took it and rightly so.

Let the new FIA president enter and maybe they will ban tactics, and i sure hope they do so because this is starting to get really annoying!!!!

[Forde-fotos]

Its just my opinion !!!!!!

Skoda had there oppurtunity which they failed to take so dont complain.

If Kris wins the champpionship he will have it well earned and he will be the rightfull winner.

[Wim_Impreza]

And you dont like them because he took two points back from Jan Kopecky.
Tactics play a part in every sport and motorsport is no different. It comes down to who is able to use them better.

I find Meeke a great driver. I said in my post that Kronos used so much tactics in the past and now again. They do it for more than 10 years now. I have a problem with that, not with Meeke as a driver or as a person. He is by far the biggest talent for Ireland / UK now and in the future.

[Wim_Impreza]

As I said it comes down to who is able to use the tactics better, Skoda had the chance to let Jan finish ahead of Juho in Russia and they failed to do so, Peugeot got there oppurtunity today, they took it and rightly so.

Škoda failed to do so? Škoda took the right decision with the victory of Juho in Russia. Even when Kopecký loses the championship by 1 point, than I find it good that Juho took the victory there. It is only their first season with the new Fabia, you may not forget that.

Look at the results in Madeira with 8 Peugeot’s in the top 9. You must understand that it is good for the fans, spectators and of course for Škoda and Kopecký that they do the rest of the championship. I prefer to have as much different marques as possible. Without Škoda, Peugeot should have no strong opposition, because the Fiat is not so fast and not reliable enough.

[eloyf1]

Hevia crying...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn6FQJ2Xhhw

He says he didn't know how he suffered the puncture, he was securing its second place...

[Barreis]

Horror.. People are dying and he's cryin'..

[RS]

Horror.. People are dying and he's cryin'..

Have a heart! This was a pretty cruel blow for Hevia who drove a great rally.

[Barreis]

Have a heart! This was a pretty cruel blow for Hevia who drove a great rally.

Still workin'.. :)

[HaCo]

Have a heart! This was a pretty cruel blow for Hevia who drove a great rally.

Yet and not only for him, but also for the Skoda team! Anyway, Hevia showed great performance. That's IMHO great about IRC: local drivers able to fight for victory and support car maker they drive with...

Peugeot is champion by the way...

[Barreis]

This's only sport.. Nothing else..

[Juha_Koo]

This's only sport.. Nothing else..

Not for me... Rally is the love of my life and I can admit that sometimes it's been really hard to hide some of the feelings after something has gone wrong. I can only imagine how strongly a competitor can feel the disappointments...

Luckily it works both ways, 'cause after a very long and exhausting four day marathon in Rally Finland, it was such a joy to hear Mikko winning the rally while driving back home from Myhinpää.

[Barreis]

People can die also in this sport..

[J.Lindstroem]

People can die also in this sport..

I am sure that Hevia is as sad as you when it comes to this young girl who had to give her life away. Anyway, he has the right to feel dissapointed and cry when things that means everything to him is spoiled.

[Barreis]

Maybe he likes Latvala boy.. xd

[J.Lindstroem]

Maybe he likes Latvala boy.. xd

I think he likes boys!

[noel157]

Peugeot UK day two coverage and interviews with Bex:-

Interesting comments by Kris Meeke on Skoda team orders and van Dalen explains that Nico Vouilloz offered 2nd place to Meeke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGIGIkEMSAU

[Mirek]

Some videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6YM12wpU80
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_ZBxWIvh28

[J4MIE]

People can die also in this sport..

Barreis I find your comments quite insensitive, it's obvious that these guys care very much about what they are doing and to have a dream result taken away from them is very cruel, I would do the same in their position.

[wwbroe]

We are back home after another exciting rally, the stages are really very nice, but pitty that organisation doesn't match up with the quality of the stages.
We saw another great fight in this IRC rally, with the Skoda's and Basso being very strong, something that couldn't be said by the Kronos crews, who were all struggeling with their suspensions. It was only after they changed set-up of Vouilloz to last years suspension for second day that he started to do really good times. You can easily see the difference by eye when you go and watch on the stages. Great performance by Hevia who was exceptionally quick on his home rally (he is from Pola de Sierro). Basso was attacking very much with great passages as a result of that, he was by far the most spectacular guy, but unfortunally he went off the road and lost about seven minutes.
At the end, the Peugeot crews were lucky to take 2th, 3th and 4th, due to offroad by Basso and flat tyre by Hevia, they only past Fontana on a regular basis, and Meeke was lucky that Vouilloz was asked to take time-penalty so that he could keep his small lead in the championship. I think it will be a tough fight for victory tough, especially in San Remo. We will see what the outcome will be but i am certainly looking forward to it. :)

[anesa]

Can any Spanish-speaking person help me understand what Hevia is saying in the crying footage? I'd like to know what really upset him so much, I understand it's the puncture ruining months of efforts finding sponsors, etc. but I'd like to know more in detail.

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help!

[RS]

I think there's a few "please, no, whys" in there but that's all I could get!

[Luis Pacheco]

Let the new FIA president enter and maybe they will ban tactics, and i sure hope they do so because this is starting to get really annoying!!!!

Is easy to end with tactics on rallyes. Put only one driver in each team! :D

Nobody can put an end on tactics. Is part of the game. Ours day motorsport is very very expensive with much money around.

[eloyf1]

Can any Spanish-speaking person help me understand what Hevia is saying in the crying footage? I'd like to know what really upset him so much, I understand it's the puncture ruining months of efforts finding sponsors, etc. but I'd like to know more in detail.

Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help!
Hevia - What can I do, Pin?
Pin - (Notes)
Hevia - But where did I suffer the punture! I didn't touch anything! ...
Pin - Be quiet...
Hevia - What?
Pin - Do you wanna stop and change?
Hevia - Of course, mate... "Me cago en mi puta madre" (Impossible to translate, sorry...)... Please... I didn't cut anywhere!
Pin - Here!
Hevia - Please... (Cries) ...handbrake... (Cries) ... handbrake...
(Out of the car)
Hevia - No, no, no... No, please, no... Please...

In fact, it seems that they didn't cut the tyre, but a valve wasn't correctly closed, so the tyre lost all the air (I was 50 meters before, and the car was slow, with warning lights, but anybody saw the puncture...)

[anesa]

This is absolutely brilliant. Thank you so much, eloyf1!

[Eyvind]

Photos
http://foros.inforallye.net/leer.asp?id=363054&foro=1

http://foros.inforallye.net/leer.asp?id=363056&foro=1

[Barreis]

Photos are great..

[dimviii]

Eyvind fantastic photos!!!

anybody from our Spanish friends who know the reason of retirement for all(3) evo X from RMC TEAM at the same ss?

[noel157]

Eyvind fantastic photos!!!

anybody from our Spanish friends who know the reason of retirement for all(3) evo X from RMC TEAM at the same ss?

I saw reported somewhere that the 3 RMC cars ran out of spare wheels. I don't know if this means they all had multiple punctures and not enough spares or ran out of tyres in service. Strange that it all happened on one stage.

[Eyvind]

anybody from our Spanish friends who know the reason of retirement for all(3) evo X from RMC TEAM at the same ss?

RMC provides 10 tyres each driver for the whole rally.

The drivers wanted more tyres. RMC would not provide more. The drivers agreed to retire because they had degraded all.

[dimviii]

RMC provides 10 tyres each driver for the whole rally.

The drivers wanted more tyres. RMC would not provide more. The drivers agreed to retire because they had degraded all.

:dozey: best joke ever!! :D

[eloyf1]

RMC provides 10 tyres each driver for the whole rally.

The drivers wanted more tyres. RMC would not provide more. The drivers agreed to retire because they had degraded all.
The rules are: 8 tyres for a National Rally, 10 for Principe, and 16 for Catalunya. It's part of "the spirit of the Cup": to make the most of what you have (Or at least that's what they've said to hide their mistake...)

RMC offered his drivers to sell them more tyres, but at a high cost, and only Senra wanted to/could afford them... That's the version I heard of...

[Eyvind]

Eyvind fantastic photos!!!


The photos are from a Spanish forum

More fantastic here... nice roads, nice rally...

http://foros.inforallye.net/leer.asp?id=363089&foro=1

http://foros.inforallye.net/leer.asp?id=363026&foro=1

http://foros.inforallye.net/leer.asp?id=363039&foro=1

http://foros.inforallye.net/leer.asp?id=362962&foro=1

http://foros.inforallye.net/leer.asp?id=362919&foro=1

[Barreis]

:)

[LiviePeugeotUK]

Great video of Kris Meeke and Paul Nagle can be found here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BurFkczrNlM

Have a look!

[Eyvind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5yDZ782EWg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ZfTu0CWGU&NR=1

[Barreis]

:)

[Eyvind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Bni7jKx7aY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYwuyxrnc4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnXx8xzFHU

[Eyvind]

Nice...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsK2JtyczlY

[Mirek]

Great choice of places!

[principe IRC]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVYwuyxrnc4


http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9982/dsc06728k.jpg

[rbatista82]

Photos from Rally Astúrias
http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=135

http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=136

[Mirek]

Great videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxnXx8xzFHU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPOxwTJcT_g

[Eyvind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCs8yOMp8oA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWCWD9_keEo

[rbatista82]

More photos from Astúrias...

http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=1387
http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=138

[Eyvind]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgixny4Kb_Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eRWzaoV5fM

[Mirek]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb4nTYwWZh0

[dimviii]

]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb4nTYwWZh0
Very good!!! :eek: