View Full Version : MotoGP round 7: TT-Assen
Corny
24th June 2009, 09:00
Friday I'm off :D Can't wait!
Hope it's going to be another cracking race, just like Barcelona.. Yamaha boys are the favourites IMO
Have you got your raincoat?
Corny
24th June 2009, 11:47
Have you got your raincoat?
Yes I have :( It just can't be 3 days dry during Assen's TT :(
pettersolberg29
24th June 2009, 15:59
Meant to be storms on Sunday...
Corny
24th June 2009, 16:29
Meant to be storms on Sunday...
Then we are lucky to have the race on saturday ;)
pettersolberg29
24th June 2009, 17:01
Then we are lucky to have the race on saturday ;)
Thats a very good point... ;)
I meant Saturday - storms for Saturday.
NinjaMaster
25th June 2009, 11:55
Not another wet race. Have a great time Corny. Should be a great race. This series is getting better and better (except the weather :down: ).
Corny
25th June 2009, 12:16
Not another wet race. Have a great time Corny. Should be a great race. This series is getting better and better (except the weather :down: ).
Thankyou Ninja!
It just gets me so sick it always has to rain at TT-Assen.. GRRR
Just hope the MotoGP race will be ridden in the dry, but I can't expect that seen the weather forecasts :(
Wim_Impreza
25th June 2009, 20:21
Not another wet race. Have a great time Corny. Should be a great race. This series is getting better and better (except the weather :down: ).
Another? I have not seen rain in a MotoGP race this year. It will be very hot again in Assen and in the races for the Dutch Superbikes in Assen this year, it was hot too.
I really hope it will be raining the whole day on Saturday in Assen. Sorry Corny, but my favourite team Suzuki has only a chance on a podium when it is a wet race and I love rain. :)
CaptainRaiden
26th June 2009, 08:36
Another? I have not seen rain in a MotoGP race this year.
Errm, Le Mans and Mugello? At least for half of the race, because I remember they changed bikes in both of these races.
Wim_Impreza
26th June 2009, 09:42
Errm, Le Mans and Mugello? At least for half of the race, because I remember they changed bikes in both of these races.
I didn't see rain in the races, that is what I told. The track was a bit wet in the opening laps, but there wasn't rain in these races.
NinjaMaster
26th June 2009, 09:56
I didn't see rain in the races, that is what I told. The track was a bit wet in the opening laps, but there wasn't rain in these races.
Fine, rain effected then. Picky, picky. ;) I just want to see dry racing so it can be close. Moisture seems to screw it up.
CaptainRaiden
26th June 2009, 10:18
I didn't see rain in the races, that is what I told. The track was a bit wet in the opening laps, but there wasn't rain in these races.
I think it was pouring down in Le Mans in the opening laps. And then there was the Monday MotoGP race at Qatar, because of rain too (although I am sure that doesn't count.) :D
leopard
26th June 2009, 11:24
If Yamaha boys are at the front battling each other again, would we change the championship to be Yamaha Cup Race? :)
Rod Richardson
26th June 2009, 22:07
125 Qualifying
Sandro CORTESE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Sandro+Cortese) GER Ajo Interwetten Derbi………….1'45.430
Julian SIMON (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Julian+Simon) SPA Bancaja Aspar Team Aprilia………+ 0.011
Nicolas TEROL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Nicolas+Terol) SPA Jack & Jones Team Aprilia………....0.214
Stefan BRADL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Stefan+Bradl) GER Viessmann Kiefer Racing Aprilia...0.249
Andrea IANNONE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Andrea+Iannone) ITA Ongetta Team I.S.P.A. Aprilia…0.481
Bradley SMITH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Bradley+Smith) GBR Bancaja Aspar Team Aprilia …….0.282
Simone CORSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Simone+Corsi) ITA Jack & Jones Team Aprilia………….0.526
Pol ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Pol+Espargaro) SPA Derbi Racing Team Derbi ……….0.633
Sergio GADEA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Sergio+Gadea) SPA Bancaja Aspar Team Aprilia……….0.695
Marc MARQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Marc+Marquez) SPA Red Bull KTM Moto Sport KTM…..0.734
Joan OLIVE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Joan+Olive) SPA Derbi Racing Team Derbi………………...0.758
Esteve RABAT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Esteve+Rabat) SPA Blusens Aprilia Aprilia………………....0.784
Danny WEBB (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Danny+Webb) GBR Degraaf Grand Prix Aprilia……………0.848
Randy KRUMMENACHER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Randy+Krummenacher) SWI Degraaf Grand Prix Aprilia1.251
Efren VAZQUEZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Efren+Vazquez) SPA Derbi Racing Team Derbi………… 1.382
Johann ZARCO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Johann+Zarco) FRA WTR San Marino Team Aprilia…… 1.458
Scott REDDING (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Scott+Redding) GBR Blusens Aprilia Aprilia………………..1.657
Jonas FOLGER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Jonas+Folger) GER Ongetta Team I.S.P.A. Aprilia……. 1.881
Dominique AEGERTER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Dominique+Aegerter) SWI Ajo Interwetten Derbi……..1.911
Cameron BEAUBIER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Cameron+Beaubier) USA Red Bull KTM …………………....2.298
Lorenzo SAVADORI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Lorenzo+Savadori) ITA Fontana Racing Aprilia………… 2.298
Luis SALOM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Luis+Salom) SPA Jack & Jones Team Aprilia ……………...2.503
Lorenzo ZANETTI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Lorenzo+Zanetti) ITA Ongetta ……………………………........2.787
Michael VAN DER MARK (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Michael+Van+Der+Mark) NED Dutch Racing Honda …….3.075
Marvin FRITZ (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Marvin+Fritz) GER LHF-Project Racing Honda ………….. 3.080
Jasper IWEMA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Jasper+Iwema) NED Racing Team ………………………........ 3.347
Alexis MASBOU (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Alexis+Masbou) FRA Loncin ……………………………….......... 3.354
Karel PESEK (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Karel+Pesek) CZE Pesek Team Derbi ……………………......3.371
Lukas SEMBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Lukas+Sembera) CZE Matteoni Racing Aprilia …………...3.983
Luca MARCONI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Luca+Marconi) ITA CBC Corse Aprilia ……………………....4.433
Tomoyoshi KOYAMA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Tomoyoshi+Koyama) JPN Loncin Racing ………………….....4.492
Luca VITALI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Luca+Vitali) ITA CBC Corse Aprilia ………………………..... 6.148
Pepijn BIJSTERBOSCH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Pepijn+Bijsterbosch) NED Team Bijsterbosch Honda. 6.38
Rod Richardson
26th June 2009, 22:09
250 Qualifying
Hector BARBERA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Hector+Barbera) SPA Pepe World Team Aprilia
.. 1'40.019
Hiroshi AOYAMA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Hiroshi+Aoyama) JPN Scot Racing Team 250cc Honda+ 0.173
Alvaro BAUTISTA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Alvaro+Bautista) SPA Mapfre Aspar Team Aprilia
.. 0.191
Marco SIMONCELLI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Marco+Simoncelli) ITA Metis Gilera Gilera
.....0.301
Aleix ESPARGARO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Aleix+Espargaro) SPA Balatonring Team Aprilia
....0.777
Alex DEBON (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Alex+Debon) SPA Aeropuerto-Castello-Blusens Aprilia
0.811
Raffaele DE ROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Raffaele+de+Rosa) ITA Scot Racing Team Honda
...1.004
Mattia PASINI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Mattia+Pasini) ITA Team Toth Aprilia Aprilia
...1.036
Mike DI MEGLIO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Mike+Di+Meglio) FRA Mapfre Aspar Team Aprilia
.1.053
Lukas PESEK (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Lukas+Pesek) CZE Auto Kelly - CP Aprilia
.....1.171
Ratthapark WILAIROT (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Ratthapark+Wilairot) THA Thai Honda
.....1.216
Roberto LOCATELLI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Roberto+Locatelli) ITA Metis Gilera
......1.328
Hector FAUBEL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Hector+Faubel) SPA Valencia CF - Honda
.....1.443
Karel ABRAHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Karel+Abraham) CZE Cardion AB Motoracing Aprilia
.1.514
Thomas LUTHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Thomas+Luthi) SWI Emmi - Caffe Latte Aprilia
.1.526
Shoya TOMIZAWA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Shouya+Tomizawa) JPN CIP Moto - GP250 Honda
...2.019
Jules CLUZEL (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Jules+Cluzel) FRA Matteoni Racing Aprilia
......2.609
Stevie BONSEY (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Stevie+Bonsey) USA Milar - Juegos Lucky Aprilia
. 2.678
Alex BALDOLINI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Alex+Baldolini) ITA WTR San Marino Team Aprilia
3.056
Axel PONS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Axel+Pons) SPA Pepe World Team Aprilia
.....3.451
Valentin DEBISE (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Valentin+Debise) FRA CIP Moto - GP250 Honda
....3.634
Imre TOTH (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Imre+Toth) HUN Team Toth Aprilia Aprilia
.....3.894
Bastien CHESAUX (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Bastien+Chesaux) SWI Racing Team Germany Honda ..4.685
Vladimir LEONOV (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Vladimir+Leonov) RUS Viessmann Kiefer Racing Aprilia .4.724
Toby MARKHAM (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/profiles/Toby+Markham) GBR C&L Racing Honda
....... 6.739
Rod Richardson
26th June 2009, 22:11
Moto GP Qualifying
Valentino ROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Valentino+Rossi) ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Fiat+Yamaha+Team) ……………….1'36.025
Dani PEDROSA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Dani+Pedrosa) SPA Repsol Honda Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Repsol+Honda+Team) ……………+ 0.085
Jorge LORENZO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Jorge+Lorenzo) SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Fiat+Yamaha+Team)……………….. 0.368
Casey STONER (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Casey+Stoner) AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Ducati+Marlboro+Team) …………..0.608
Colin EDWARDS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Colin+Edwards) USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Monster+Yamaha+Tech+3)……….0.735
Loris CAPIROSSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Loris+Capirossi) ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Rizla+Suzuki+MotoGP) …………….0.928
Chris VERMEULEN (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Chris+Vermeulen) AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Rizla+Suzuki+MotoGP) ………… 1.169
Andrea DOVIZIOSO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Andrea+Dovizioso) ITA Repsol Honda Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Repsol+Honda+Team) ……… .1.212
James TOSELAND (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/James+Toseland) GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Monster+Yamaha+Tech+3) …….1.298
Randy DE PUNIET (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Randy+de+Puniet) FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/LCR+Honda+MotoGP) …………....1.448
Alex DE ANGELIS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Alex+de+Angelis) RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/San+Carlo+Honda+Gresini)…….1.612
Mika KALLIO (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Mika+Kallio) FIN Pramac Racing (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Pramac+Racing) Ducati ………………....1.724
Nicky HAYDEN (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Nicky+Hayden) USA Ducati Marlboro Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Ducati+Marlboro+Team)…………….. 1.734
Marco MELANDRI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Marco+Melandri) ITA Hayate Racing Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Hayate+Racing+Team) Kawasaki.. 1.923
Toni ELIAS (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Toni+Elias) SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/San+Carlo+Honda+Gresini)……………… .2.111
Sete GIBERNAU (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Sete+Gibernau) SPA Grupo Francisco Hernando (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Grupo+Francisco+Hernando) Ducati. 2.428
Niccolo CANEPA (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Niccolo+Canepa) ITA Pramac Racing (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Pramac+Racing) Ducati …………… 2.580
Yuki TAKAHASHI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Yuki+Takahashi) JPN Scot Racing Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Scot+Racing+Team+MotoGP)Honda……….2.594
Gabor TALMACSI (http://www.motogp.com/en/riders/Gabor+Talmacsi) HUN Scot Racing Team (http://www.motogp.com/en/teams/Scot+Racing+Team+MotoGP)Honda ……3.382
Rod Richardson
26th June 2009, 23:48
Weather will obvious play a bit part in the outcome. May end up with a wet Ass...en.
pettersolberg29
27th June 2009, 10:53
I'm a MotoGP virgin in that I have never watched a whole race before, but the last lap in Barcelona has interested me and thus I'll watch today. When I follow something, I get really into it, so have already decided Dovizioso is the man I support due to his bike and potential.
Hope I get a good race today, and of course good weather for Corny!
pettersolberg29
27th June 2009, 13:19
Oh poo...
UltimateDanGTR
27th June 2009, 17:29
Oh poo...
that hasnt gone well has it......... :D
you're not the only motoGP virgin here, ive seen clips of this season, including barcelona, and they looked good so i watched todays race in assen and enjoyed it-excellent race! I've kinda taken to casey stoner and dani pedrosa, dont know why but it all looks good!
pettersolberg29
27th June 2009, 17:49
As soon as I start supporting someone, it all goes wrong for them...
Good race anyway, and battles all over except for 1st and 2nd. Still confused about lack of pit stops and short races though - F1 has warped my brain! And what's with 3 per row on the grid? And races on a Saturday?
I'm sure I'll grasp it one day!
Roby44
28th June 2009, 05:37
Oh poo...
I said that and a bit more when Dovi fell!! But he'll be back!!
Rod Richardson
28th June 2009, 08:17
I go along with the race commentator at Assen regarding the need for altering the runoff area at the entrance to the chicane that enables riders to rejoin the race in a position whereby they are likely to balk or at worst, "T-bone" another rider who has taken the correct course.
In addition to that it is not (IMO) fair racing to allow a rider who has an off-track excursion to that extent, to have the asphalt strip that allows him to come back onto the track with very little loss of speed and position and without having to take the correct route
There are a couple of tracks with similar setups but in my opinion if a rider leaves the track as a result of his own riding error and (apart from running wide and onto the grass parallel to the track) cannot follow the basic course, he should be disadvantaged and drop at least a couple of seconds.
Moto GP - I was impressed by the battle for 5th and particularly the efforts of Toseland and Kallio in that group. The rest of the race left me a bit flat although Rossi's 100 race win achievemt was one for the history books.
125's - 250's - what else can you say but absolutely top shelf.
Must go - the nurses say it's time to put the straightjacket back on so I can watch the Supers at Donington.
Corny
28th June 2009, 21:35
what a great weekend it was..!!!
The Phantom
29th June 2009, 04:28
As soon as I start supporting someone, it all goes wrong for them...
Good race anyway, and battles all over except for 1st and 2nd. Still confused about lack of pit stops and short races though - F1 has warped my brain! And what's with 3 per row on the grid? And races on a Saturday?
I'm sure I'll grasp it one day!
Most MotoGP races have a bit more happening up front than Assen, stick with it.
Bike racing is far more physical than driving and 40-45 mins is about as much as the riders can comfortably cope with, especially at tracks in hot climates. You also get 125cc and 250cc two-stroke GP bikes as support, so in effect it's a whole day of racing (at the track) or close to three hours on tv. It's worth watching the little bikes, the action is generally far more frenetic than the big bangers (especially the Assen race just gone, the 125s were just insane!).
No pitstops as they don't need them, unless it's a declared 'wet race', in which case the riders can start on wets or slicks and change to a second bike set up for opposite conditions, should it be necessary.
Assen has always been a Saturday race, all others are Sunday except Qatar which is also a Saturday, this is because the Muslim weekend is Fri/Sat. Qatar is also held at night under lights.
Three abreast on the grid just because they fit, sometimes there can be four abreast.
Check out World Superbike too, it's great. Good to see you coming on board :)
MrJan
29th June 2009, 12:40
I'm a MotoGP virgin in that I have never watched a whole race before, but the last lap in Barcelona has interested me and thus I'll watch today. When I follow something, I get really into it, so have already decided Dovizioso is the man I support due to his bike and potential.
Hope I get a good race today, and of course good weather for Corny!
:eek: You have missed out on some seriously good fun then, over the last 6 or 7 years the action in MotoGP has kept me sane enough to be able to endure F1 :D
Not a bad race, the battle between JT, Kallio, Capi etc was frenetic and I'm just amazed that De Puniet managed to finish. Gutted for Mika who deserved something out of that race and Loris must have been hacked off a bit but it was great to see Toseland a bit further up the leaderboard. If Britain can have a reasonably successful rider then it can only help the popularity of the sport, if he drifts down the grid and slides back to WSB then a lot of the partisan Brits will tune out again. Thank God that there is an amazing rider like Rossi out there to capture the crowd, just a shame that Stoner isn't fit enough/has a bike capable of taking it to Vale week in, week out. Still it'll be interesting to see how the rest of the championship unfolds as the races are starting to get a bit more exciting :D
pettersolberg29
29th June 2009, 17:13
Check out World Superbike too, it's great. Good to see you coming on board :)
Thanks for the info and welcome.
I heard about WSBK, but its not on TV in GB so I won't be able to follow it easily. Is WSBK a better or worse standard to MotoGP - what's the difference?
MrJan
29th June 2009, 17:43
WSB is sort of like Touring Cars of the bike world. The bikes are much closer to standard rather than in MotoGP where they are one ofs (much like F1). I haven't seen it for years but it certainly used to be fantastic, although back then MotoGP was equally as epic with Gibernau/Biaggi and Rossi battling away.
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