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jso1985
10th June 2009, 20:29
The original rough surface, car breaking rally.

The rally will be run with the following format:

Game Rally: Greece
Shakedown stage: SS6
Day 1: Single rally expert level
Day 2: Single rally intermediate level

Deadline for time submissions is on Wednesday 17th 15:59 GMT

For any questions, ask them here, newcomers always welcome

Have fun and good luck!

tannat
10th June 2009, 22:09
First rally for Fine Wine Motorsports with the Focus :up:

Love these stages-looking forward to it...

Mithus
10th June 2009, 23:11
Count me in :s mokin:

lcd
11th June 2009, 16:30
jso1985, I've just sent my entry for the Acropolis Rally!
Best wishes to all competitors! ;)
Got to go now...Shakedown Is waiting for me! :D

tannat
11th June 2009, 16:46
1:23.11
1:21.71
1:21.56
1:20.73
1:18.80

jso1985
11th June 2009, 19:51
Welcome Jimakos and LCD!!

Have fun!

jimakos
11th June 2009, 20:40
In my opinion RALLY ACROPOLIS is the best of the best!!!!
I'm not telling that because I'm Greek but stages in Greece are magnificent.
I love them :p
Unfortunately exams don't permit me to go but nevermind!!

I wish luck to everybody guys :up:

jso1985
11th June 2009, 21:10
One slight problem guys...

If you wanna race under the same team (GR Motorsports) you need to use the same car.
Also if using 3 drivers or more you need to nominate two that will be available to score team points

lcd
12th June 2009, 12:18
One slight problem guys...

If you wanna race under the same team (GR Motorsports) you need to use the same car.
Also if using 3 drivers or more you need to nominate two that will be available to score team points

Just solved that Issue jso1985!
Hope's everything O.K. now! ;)

tannat
12th June 2009, 12:33
SIGH...

So lonely at shakedown. No one here but me....

Hope someone else comes along......

:D

lcd
12th June 2009, 12:41
Shakedown :

1st pass: 1:24.35
2nd pass : 1:22.44

Still experimenting with set up...

tannat
12th June 2009, 16:22
Shakedown :

1st pass: 1:24.35
2nd pass : 1:22.44

Still experimenting with set up...

You are on PC, correct LCD?

I like suspension at -5 for this stage. All the bumps disappear...

lcd
12th June 2009, 17:17
You are on PC, correct LCD?

I like suspension at -5 for this stage. All the bumps disappear...

Yes, the suspensions seem to be crucial, plus a short gear box for short stages could help...
What about brake strength? Have you noticed any difference with brakes set a bit stronger than default?

Anyway, It's amazing how the set up affects performance...
RBR has realistic set up too, but you have to be an engineer to work It out! :D
In cmr2, It's more practical I'd say...

Mithus
12th June 2009, 18:57
Shakedown:

1:21,27
1:20,67
1:20,12
1:19,82
1:18,99

tannat
12th June 2009, 20:53
Yes, the suspensions seem to be crucial, plus a short gear box for short stages could help...
What about brake strength? Have you noticed any difference with brakes set a bit stronger than default?

Anyway, It's amazing how the set up affects performance...
RBR has realistic set up too, but you have to be an engineer to work It out! :D
In cmr2, It's more practical I'd say...

I've got em at +3

I am on PS1

jimakos
12th June 2009, 23:04
Shakedown:

1:21.38
1:19.69

I was so close to Tannat and Mithus but I didn't manage to catch them :)

lcd
13th June 2009, 06:58
Acropolis rally started ideally for me:
Good feeling of the car, fast rhythm, no serious mistakes...
That was untill ss7, where I had a close encounter with that church!
On ss8, misheard a pacenote and lost some more secs.
On ss9, attempted a risky cut and damaged the steering!
I struggled to finish ss10, but there was worse to come:
s.s.s. was a total carnage! The most disappointing performance of the event!

Day 2 was a lot better, with improved times and no serious mistakes!
But I guess, day 1 was defining for my overall results...

At least, Acropolis once more confirmed its 'car-breaker rally' title!
Had really great time though and loved the Day1-expert / Day2-Intermediate format!
Good Inspiration jso1985!

That's all from me! Good luck to those still running!
See you In Poland!

Blade69
13th June 2009, 20:51
1:19.66
1:18.79
1:19.46
1:18.51
1:18.21

jimakos
13th June 2009, 21:33
Nice shakedown Blade69 (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/member.php?u=137987).
Rally acropolis seems to competitive for all of us!!
Good luck mate :up:

52Paddy
14th June 2009, 20:48
Looking forward to our first event in the Focus. I do like the Greek stages but hate those bloody banks!

jimakos
15th June 2009, 16:46
Rally Acropolis was the best rally I have driven so far!!
Before about a month I had run again Greek stages but in IRC (I love it)
and it was an excellent experience .But a lot of mistakes cost me several seconds and generally I was in a low speed condition.
This time with my favorite car of Mikko Hirvonen I changed!
Understanding that set up is very useful I had to change it and also I had a whole week to prepare.Finally,everything went great and I made some unbelievable (for me and I hope to you) times!!
In my opinion, I’m between 3-7th position but can’t be sure, WRC is so unpredictable.
Jso1985 thanks for the opportunity to run in WRC.I enjoyed it a lot.
Good bye from beautiful Greece!!

Blade69
15th June 2009, 20:33
I was very nice rally with very hot weather. First day was for our team great...only small mistakes and good times on stages. But second day was absolutely horrible. I was very tired because of high temperature and lost concentration and made a lot of mistakes. But...it is rally. Good luck to others. ;)

jimakos
15th June 2009, 21:36
jso1985 check your p.m.
My times belong to you :p

I am evil Homer
16th June 2009, 09:34
Done my rally....very good event, Day 1 was quick maybe a litter error here or there but overall felt really good. Day 2 was much the same bar one mistake entering a hairpin that lost a few seconds when I missed a gear, changing up instead of down!

52Paddy
16th June 2009, 22:53
My times are in. The Focus is so much more stable than the Citroen/Seat was. Its much easier to point into the apex of a corner at speed and let it flow through the stages. Quite a good rally for me, if unspectacular in parts.

Day 1 was a little difficult at the beginning because, other than the shakedown, I had went straight from tarmac to gravel, which was a surface I'd forgotten the intricies of. :p : Having done 5 shakedown runs (a best of 1:22.65 with some errors in a few corners though) I decided on running the following setup: Suspension -5, Brakes +2 and the rest at default. I made a few errors on the first day, but I believe I was quick on some stages too and maybe even in the top 8, if I can be so bold! But a spin on one of the stages, an overshoot at the beginning of SS9 or 10 (can't remember exactly) and stuggling badly with gear-change on the super-special will certainly affect my standings on the overall leaderboard.

Day 2 was good too. Again, a consistant run across all the stages with an odd mistake thrown into the mix. Mistakes which include hitting that bloody church on SS7 (didn't hit it on day 1, surprisingly!)

So I'm generally satisfied with this performance and I'm certain the arrival of our new baby Focus is an step forward for the team. :D It would truly be a blessing if both cars scored points on its debut, but even if that doesn't happen, I'm still very pleased with my driving today and the car and rally overall. :up:

52Paddy
16th June 2009, 22:58
Shakedown Times
Blade69 1:18.21
Tannat 1:18.80
Mithus 1:18.99
Jimakos 1:19.69
L.C.D 1:22.44
Paddy C 1:22.65

Interesting how close the shakedown times were for the top 4. I believe with more practice, my times could get into the 1:19 range at least. Despite those times, its a very short stage and difficult to judge any result from this.

lcd
17th June 2009, 06:57
...Despite those times, its a very short stage and difficult to judge any result from this.

Paddy, don't forget that In shakedown mod, we all have the right
to run the stage again and again, untill we get the lowest times,
while after start of rally, rules don't allow to repeat any stages or restart rally!
So, we might see some surprises, as nervousness can cause any kind of mistakes for anyone! ;)

52Paddy
17th June 2009, 08:53
True LCD. I'm looking forward to this one. :up:

Marcel Haenen
17th June 2009, 09:22
I have finished rally greece and it was great. Its really enjoyable to attack these stages fully and get them just right. Beside some small mistakes we had a very good rally and set some competative times. Don't know if it'll be enough for victory though as I think Homer will be very fast here as well.

tannat
17th June 2009, 15:48
A good, but not great rally for us..

Set some PBs, and off 4 seconds from PB on some stages.

Great being in the Ford. Hoping for a good team showing from Fine Wine Motorsports :D

Mithus
17th June 2009, 20:34
Very nice rally!!! We pushed very hard on all special stages and managed to set some PB's.

It wasn't perfect, but i had a lot of fun on this rally :cool:

jimakos
17th June 2009, 21:08
From results of shakedown I think it was a very competitive rally
but don't forget that some perfect drivers are missing :)
I would like to ask if someone knows anything about results!!
I'm not so pacient :D

Rat
18th June 2009, 05:02
I'm back and if I can get the CD to run I'll be in to rally again. Hopefully...

jso1985
18th June 2009, 20:14
hey guys, seems like I have an excuse all the time right? :s

Well, I was all day and afternoon in observation in a hospital due having a suspicious case of AH1N1 flu which turned out to be regular flu, thankfully.

But now I lost my free afternoon which I was going to use to work on the results, so they won't be available until tomorrow.

thanks for your patience

tannat
18th June 2009, 20:19
hey guys, seems like I have an excuse all the time right? :s

Well, I was all day and afternoon in observation in a hospital due having a suspicious case of AH1N1 flu which turned out to be regular flu, thankfully.




They typed it that quickly?

H3 or H1 seasonal jso?

jso1985
18th June 2009, 20:38
my samples are still on the lab, but the probable infection "source", a classmate who was two weeks ago in the area of the country that has AH1N1 cases and had flu symptoms had also only regular(H1) flu after lab testing.
So all contacts with flu, including me, have been released from the hospital.

Good to know none in my class is actually a pig, regardless what my female classmates say :p

tannat
18th June 2009, 20:48
my samples are still on the lab, but the probable infection "source", a classmate who was two weeks ago in the area of the country that has AH1N1 cases and had flu symptoms had also only regular(H1) flu after lab testing.
So all contacts with flu, including me, have been released from the hospital.

Good to know none in my class is actually a pig, regardless what my female classmates say :p

Looks as if there are 7 confirmed swine lineage samples in Bolivia...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30485593

jso1985
18th June 2009, 20:51
we're up to 14 now, 11 of them in Santa Cruz. only 2 suspicious cases here in Sucre, the one my classmate had and another one still awating results

tannat
18th June 2009, 21:06
we're up to 14 now, 11 of them in Santa Cruz. only 2 suspicious cases here in Sucre, the one my classmate had and another one still awating results

Hey- if either of them are positive ask them to see if they can go sneeze on some pigs and duplicate what happened in Canada..

Then go find some migratory birds, or domestic birds and do the same

jimakos
19th June 2009, 20:58
There isn't any problem with results jso1985!!
Now you have to rest and overcome your illness :)

jso1985
20th June 2009, 00:17
WARNING! posts below this one might be spoilers

Stage-by-stage results are now available at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/cmr2wc/files/

final results and standings to be published here soon

jso1985
20th June 2009, 00:37
1.- Marcel Haenen Citroën Xsara ML Motorsports Citroën 46:14,84
2.- I am evil Homer Citroën C4 Citroën Sport France 46:41,27
3.- Blade69 Subaru Impreza CRT Subaru 47:01,68
4.- Mithus Subaru Impreza Olca Team Madeira 47:42,83
5.- Tannat Ford Focus Fine Wine Motorsports 47:55,50
6.- Jimakos Ford Focus GR Motorsports 48:04,18
7.- Jso1985 Citroën C4 Red Bull Citroën Total Racing 48:51,80
8.- LCD Ford Focus GR Motorsports 50:14,70
9.- Paddy Cummins Ford Focus Fine Wine Motorsports 50:16,69
10.- JTLarsen Citroën C4 Two Basses Rally Development 50:18,87
11.- Nasosxatzis777 Ford Focus GR Motorsports 50:25,41
12.- Dravas76 Citroën C4 Red Bull Citroën Total Racing 50:34,57

Colin McRae Cup
1.- Blade69 Subaru Impreza CRT Subaru 47:01,68
2.- Mithus Subaru Impreza Olca Team Madeira 47:42,83
3.- Tannat Ford Focus Fine Wine Motorsports 47:55,50
4.- Jimakos Ford Focus GR Motorsports 48:04,18
5.- Jso1985 Citroën C4 Red Bull Citroën Total Racing 48:51,80
6.- LCD Ford Focus GR Motorsports 50:14,70
7.- Paddy Cummins Ford Focus Fine Wine Motorsports 50:16,69
8.- JTLarsen Citroën C4 Two Basses Rally Development 50:18,87
9.- Nasosxatzis777 Ford Focus GR Motorsports 50:25,41
10.- Dravas76 Citroën C4 Red Bull Citroën Total Racing 50:34,57

Richard Burns Cup
1.- Blade69 Subaru Impreza CRT Subaru 47:01,68
2.- Mithus Subaru Impreza Olca Team Madeira 47:42,83
3.- Jimakos Ford Focus GR Motorsports 48:04,18
4.- LCD Ford Focus GR Motorsports 50:14,70
5.- Paddy Cummins Ford Focus Fine Wine Motorsports 50:16,69
6.- JTLarsen Citroën C4 Two Basses Rally Development 50:18,87
7.- Nasosxatzis777 Ford Focus GR Motorsports 50:25,41
8.- Dravas76 Citroën C4 Red Bull Citroën Total Racing 50:34,57

Drivers Championship Standings
1.- Marcel Haenen 56
2.- I am evil Homer 52
3.- NOR 32
4.- Tannat 29
5.- Ps29 27
6.- Jso1985 19
7.- Blade69 15
8.- Dravas76 10
9.- Mithus 9
10.- Ramore 7
11.- Rally-Boy 5
12.- JTLarsen 3
13.- Jimakos 3
14.- Zes 2
15.- Paddy Cummins 2
16.- LCD 1

Colin McRae Cup Standings
1.- NOR 48
2.- Tannat 42
3.- Ps29 38
4.- Jso1985 31
5.- Blade69 25
6.- Dravas76 19
7.- Mithus 12
8.- Ramore 11
9.- Zes 10
10.- JTLarsen 10
11.- Rally-Boy 8
12.- Paddy Cummins 7
13.- Jimakos 5
14.- LCD 3
15.- Eetu 2

Richard Burns Cup Standings
1.- Dravas76 41
2.- Ps29 40
3.- JTLarsen 28
4.- Blade69 28
5.- Zes 26
6.- Paddy Cummins 19
7.- Mithus 16
8.- Rally-Boy 8
9.- Eetu 7
10.- Frozzy 7
11.- Jimakos 6
12.- LCD 5
13.- Lugnut_usa 4
14.- Nasosxatzis777 2
15.- Tuomo 2

Teams Standings
1.- ML Motorsports Citroën 56
2.- Citroën Sport France 52
3.- Two Basses Rally Development 35
4.- Fine Wine Motorsports 31
5.- Red Bull Citroën Total Sport 29
6.- VK Kick Frozz Motorsport UK 27
7.- CRT Subaru 15
8.- Olca Team Madeira 9
9.- RRT 7
10.- Hymotion4 Team 5
11.- GR Motorsports 4
12.- Suzuki Sport Finland 2



Thanks for participating, see you in Poland!

lcd
20th June 2009, 06:00
Gongrats to top 3 drivers! :up: Passionate driving from all competitors!
Some great battles seen In dusty and hot Acropolis! :eek:
Personally, I think bad day 1, cost me a better position,
but I'm happy with the final results...

Poland will defenetly be a great challenge! ;)

52Paddy
20th June 2009, 11:55
Wow, just 20 seconds between 8th and last! :eek: I'm slightly disappointed that I missed out on overall points by just 2 seconds, well done LCD :up: I look forward to more battles like this throughout the year. We had a very close battle in the last IRC round too :beer:

Congrats to tannat on bringing a fine points haul for the team in this round and, of course, to the winner, Marcel.

I'm going to try and challenge for the Richard Burns Cup this year. I'm a bit behind, having missed some rounds, and I don't have the pace to match Blade69 or PS29 on most rallies. But if I can consistently finish there/thereabouts, I think its not too optimistic to aim for a top 3 in the cup. :)

lcd
20th June 2009, 11:59
... I look forward to more battles like this throughout the year. We had a very close battle in the last IRC round too :beer:

Such close battles Is what gives meaning to these championships...
Just like real-rally life! :up:

jimakos
20th June 2009, 15:37
What a nice race mates!!!
I’m very pleased of taking 6th position. It’s my personal record in this forum.
Congratulations to Marcel Haenen,Homer and Blade69.It seems they have their own championship!!
Mithus,Tannat and me were enough close in times but far away from 3 first.
Jso1985 and LCD close the qualification with pretty good times!
I’m also glad to see LCD in 8th position because we belong to the same team (GR Motorsports).

See you in Poland!!!!

tannat
20th June 2009, 17:05
Pleased with 5th. Mithus showed us the way home :up:

Good to see at tight finish between most everyone.

Lookign forward to a careful Poland (mirrored Finland)
Tannat

Mithus
20th June 2009, 22:23
Pleased with 5th. Mithus showed us the way home :up:

Good to see at tight finish between most everyone.

Lookign forward to a careful Poland (mirrored Finland)
Tannat

Great run mate :s mokin:

jimakos
21st June 2009, 18:47
Jso1985 what about colin mcrae cup and richard burns cup??
I can't understand how you make the standings :)

jso1985
21st June 2009, 19:38
The Colin McRae cup is for drivers who haven't won a race in the previous seasons, points are given the same way as in the regular championship

The Richard Burns cup is for drivers who haven't scored a podium in the previous seasons, points are given the same way as in the regular championship.

Wins and podiums scored this season does not eliminate you from the cup

jimakos
22nd June 2009, 20:47
Thanks mate!!
In this way there is hope for anyone driver.
Perfect system :up:

jimakos
23rd June 2009, 22:19
I have to mention that last days a very little number of members visit simulations!!
I wonder if vacations do it or just interest is down??
I'm waiting for an answer :)

tannat
24th June 2009, 14:56
I have to mention that last days a very little number of members visit simulations!!
I wonder if vacations do it or just interest is down??
I'm waiting for an answer :)


Vacattions, no active event.

Things will pick up when jso starts the thread for WRC Poland...