CMR2 IRC Belgium Ypres Westhoek Rally

[tannat]

SHAKEDOWN: FRANCE SS10 BRIGHT

TIRES: Tire choice is free for this rally

ROUTE: COMPETITORS ARE EXPECTED TO COMPLETE THE RALLY IN THE PRESCRIBED ORDER WITH NO STAGES REPEATED


CLASSES: S2000(Puma) or S1600 (100% fwd or rwd WRC)

*PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WEATHER RSTRICTIONS BELOW*

DAY 1
SINGLE STAGE MODE

SS1-FRANCE SS1---------BRIGHT
SS2-FRANCE SS2---------BRIGHT
SS3-FRANCE SS3---------BRIGHT
SS4-FRANCE SS4---------BRIGHT

DAY 2
SINGLE STAGE MODE

SS1-FRANCE SS1---------STORM
SS2-FRANCE SS2---------STORM
SS3-FRANCE SS3---------STORM
SS4-FRANCE SS4---------STORM


TIME SUBMISSION !!!!!!IMPORTANT NOTE!!!!!!!!

PLEASE PM TIMES IN THE FOLLOWING FORMAT (COLUMN FORMAT):

1:25.98
2:43.94
3:21.21
4:32.22
5:32.22
6:42.91
7:00.81
8:95.33
9:01.22
10:22.10



TIMES DUE SUNDAY JUNE 7, MIDNIGHT.

GOOD LUCK!

[tannat]

Entry List---S2000

Team: Two Basses Rally Development
Car: Skoda Fabia S2000
Drivers: NOR
JTLarsen

Team: Peugeot Racing UK
Car: Peugeot 207
Driver: pettersolberg29

Team: Total/EDF Peugeot Sport
Car: Peugeot 207
Driver: Homer

Name: Rat
Class: S2000
Car: Toyota Corolla S2000 (WRC)
Red Bull Rat Racing

Name:jso1985
Class:S2000
Car: Skoda Fabia S2000
Team: Low Budget Racing

Name: Kabouter
Class: S2000
Car: Fiat Punto S2000
Team:

Name: Frozzy
Class: S2000
Car: MG S2000
Team:VK kick Frozz Motorsports UK

Driver's: Rally-Boy
VitorG
Class:S2000
Car: Peugeot 207 S2000
Team: Olca Team

Name: LCD
Class: S200
Car: Peugeot 207 S2000
Team: undeclared
_______________________________________
_______________________________________
Entry List ---S1600

Team: Castrol Competition
Car: Toyota S1600
Driver: Tannat

Team: RRT
Car: Toyota 1600
Driver: Ramore

Team: Finnish Abarth Racing Team
Car: Fiat Abarth Punto
Drivers: Zes
Tuomo
Eetu

Team: Cyclone International
Name : Paddy Cummins
Car: Citroen C2 S1600

[tannat]

1) Henri Toivonen Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish in the championship

1---Homer------S2000----Peugeot-----20
2---NOR--------S2000----Skoda--------16
3---Ramore-----S1600----Toyota-------10
4---JTLarsen---S2000----Skoda---------8
5---jso1985-----S2000----Skoda--------7
6---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----6
7---Zes----------S1600----Abarth------5
7---Tannat------S1600----Toyota------5
8---Frozzy------S2000----MG-----------1

2) Michael Parks Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish by a competitor with no wins

1---NOR--------S2000-----Skoda------16
2---Ramore-----S1600----Toyota-----10
3---JTLarsen---S2000-----Skoda-------8
5---jso1985-----S2000----Skoda-------7
6---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----6
7---Zes----------S1600----Abarth------5
7---Tannat------S1600----Toyota------5
8---Frozzy------S2000-----MG---------1

3) Attilio Bettega Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish by a competitor with no podium placings

1---JTLarsen---S2000----Skoda--------8
2---jso1985-----S2000----Skoda-------7
3---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----6
4---Zes----------S1600----Abarth------5
4---Tannat------S1600----Toyota------5
5---Frozzy------S2000----MG----------1

4) Manufacturers Championship
-points awarded to two highest finishers of each marque

1-Peugeot-----26
1-Skoda-------26
3-Toyota------16
4-Fiat-----------5
5-Citroen-------1
5-MG-----------1

[tannat]

If you are not included on the entry list please submit your detalis to this thread.

Thanks!

[lcd]

Tannat, what kind of Inspiration Is this? :confused:
Next round Is only the first 4 stages clear + stormy?
( Maybe because after 4th stage, things are getting kind of easy? :D
or just to save some stages for forthcoming tarmac events? )

[pettersolberg29]

Good idea I think. Few stages, but they are very hard, and different weather.

Also may attract more entries if the event is a bit shorter.

[tannat]

Tannat, what kind of Inspiration Is this? :confused:
Next round Is only the first 4 stages clear + stormy?
( Maybe because after 4th stage, things are getting kind of easy? :D
or just to save some stages for forthcoming tarmac events? )

Lot of tarmac events in this series so I'm trying to keep them all novel.

On the other hand, it's not so unalike the Tour de Corse in the WRC, minimal stages with some repeated :)

From the chatter I've read I'm not seeing many fans of tarmac about..

I LOVE IT!!!!!! :devil:


Looking to arrange a S2000 drive for the underdog Skoda team to assist in manufacturers points for this round, perhaps.

[pettersolberg29]

Tarmac I find easier, but not as fun. Crashes can end rallies, and smoothness is key.

There are my almost prophetic points!

[Mithus]

Tannat you forgot me (on the entry list and on the championship standings). :confused:

[tannat]

Tannat you forgot me (on the entry list and on the championship standings). :confused:


OOPS! Copied wrong list!

Will correct. Thanks!

[tannat]

1) Henri Toivonen Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish in the championship

1---Homer------S2000----Peugeot------40
2---NOR--------S2000----Skoda--------24
3---jso1985-----S2000----Skoda-------18
4---Tannat------S1600----Toyota------15
5---JTLarsen----S2000----Skoda--------12
6---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----11
7---Ramore------S1600----Toyota------10
8---LCD---------S2000----Peugeot------6
8---Mithus------S2000----Peugeot------6
10---Zes--------S1600----Abarth--------5
11--Frozzy------S2000----MG-----------4
12--Jimakos-----S2000----Peugeot------2


2) Michael Parks Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish by a competitor with no wins

1---NOR--------S2000----Skoda--------24
2---jso1985-----S2000----Skoda-------18
3---Tannat------S1600----Toyota------15
4---JTLarsen----S2000----Skoda--------12
5---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----11
6---Ramore------S1600----Toyota------10
7---LCD---------S2000----Peugeot------6
7---Mithus------S2000----Peugeot------6
9---Zes---------S1600----Abarth--------5
10--Frozzy------S2000----MG-----------4
11--Jimakos-----S2000----Peugeot------2

3) Attilio Bettega Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish by a competitor with no podium placings

1---JTLarsen----S2000----Skoda--------12
2---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----11
3---LCD---------S2000----Peugeot------6
3---Mithus------S2000----Peugeot------6
5---Zes---------S1600----Abarth--------5
6--Frozzy------S2000----MG-----------4
7--Jimakos-----S2000----Peugeot------2


4) Manufacturers Championship
-points awarded to two highest finishers of each marque

1-Peugeot-----57
2-Skoda-------49
3-Toyota------26
4-Fiat-----------5
5-MG-----------4
6-Citroen-------1

[Mithus]

Thanks mate!!! :)

[Mithus]

BTW Tannat on future IRC events, I'll be driving a Skoda S2000 instead of the Peugeot!! :cool:

Thanks

[lcd]

Lot of tarmac events in this series so I'm trying to keep them all novel...

Very practical Indeed... :up:


From the chatter I've read I'm not seeing many fans of tarmac...

That goes for me too, BUT I've been practicing a lot lately... ;)

[jimakos]

Tannat I can't find my name in entry list!
What I have to do?

[lcd]

CMR2 IRC Belgium Ypres Westhoek Rally

Shakedown times:

1st run: 2:50.02
2nd run: 2:49.89
3rd run: 2:45.30

Perfect grip! I kind of like the asphalt challenge! ;)

[pettersolberg29]

Can you remember what setup LCD?

[lcd]

Can you remember what setup LCD?

Default set up my friend...but lot of practice all last week! ;)

[jimakos]

These are my times:

Shakedown
1st 2:46.13
2nd 2:45.55
3rd 2:47.53

I thought I could overcome LCD's times but luck isn't with me today!! :(

Although I hope I will run much faster in the race!!

[pettersolberg29]

I'll do a run later tonight. I checked my records and my PB on SS10 is 2:36 so there must be some time lying somewhere in those corners!

[tannat]

Tannat, what kind of Inspiration Is this? :confused:
Next round Is only the first 4 stages clear + stormy?
( Maybe because after 4th stage, things are getting kind of easy? :D
or just to save some stages for forthcoming tarmac events? )

Truth be told I intended for it to be SS1-SS5 for both days, but as people have already taken the route to heart I'll not change it now....

[pettersolberg29]

And like I said, the shorter it is, the more people tempted to do it so I think its good.

[steve_spackman]

My entry details

SK UK Racing pug 207 S2000

[Frozzy]

Frozzy's Shakedown Drama!


http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s112/Skoda-4-life/SKodaCrash.jpg

in a dramatic incident during this mornings Shakedown The VK Sport mechanics will have a race against time to repair the damage sustained to the Skoda Fabia S2000 Owned by Team boss Frozzy after a freak incident involving the pre prepared pacenotes cause a misjudgement in speed and caused the car to roll 2 times before coming to a rest after the incident we caught up with Frozzy.
" Yeah we were trying to dial the car in for the Ypres Rally and we hadn't yet made our own notes so we used some that was created by the course clerk and we got to a corner which was marked as a Fast 4 Left but we should have only have gone through in 3rd gear and so the car got a bit twitchy and the rear stepped out over the embankment and flipped us over it was a bit scary but we had 100 % trust in the car and the roll cage and we came out with out any damage

[tannat]

Great coverage, Frozzy! :up:

[tannat]

UPDATED Entry List---S2000

Team: Two Basses Rally Development
Car: Skoda Fabia S2000
Drivers: NOR
JTLarsen

Team: Peugeot Racing UK
Car: Peugeot 207
Driver: pettersolberg29

Team: Total/EDF Peugeot Sport
Car: Peugeot 207
Driver: Homer

Name: Rat
Class: S2000
Car: Toyota Corolla S2000 (WRC)
Red Bull Rat Racing

Name:jso1985
Class:S2000
Car: Skoda Fabia S2000
Team: Low Budget Racing

Name: Kabouter
Class: S2000
Car: Fiat Punto S2000
Team:

Name: Frozzy
Class: S2000
Car: MG S2000
Team:VK kick Frozz Motorsports UK

Driver's: Rally-Boy
VitorG
Class:S2000
Car: Peugeot 207 S2000
Team: Olca Team

Name: LCD
Class: S200
Car: Peugeot 207 S2000
Team: undeclared

Name: jimakos
Class: S2000
Car: Peugeot 207 S2000
Team: GR MOTORSPORTS

Name: Steve Spackman
Class: S2000
Car: Peugeot 207 S2000
Team:SK UK Racing
_______________________________________
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Entry List ---S1600

Team: Castrol Competition
Car: Toyota S1600
Driver: Tannat

Team: RRT
Car: Toyota 1600
Driver: Ramore

Team: Finnish Abarth Racing Team
Car: Fiat Abarth Punto
Drivers: Zes
Tuomo
Eetu

Team: Cyclone International
Name : Paddy Cummins
Car: Citroen C2 S1600

[tannat]

Tannat has accepted an S2000 drive for the Belgium Ypres Westhoek Rally from Skoda Motorsport

"It is our honor to accept this drive from Skoda Motorsports. We have fond memories of our season with the Fabia which resulted in a 4th overall placing in the championship.

"We hope to be able to contribute significantly to Skoda's placing in the Manufacturers Championship."



Shakedown:
2:46.22
2:39.40
2:37.92

[jimakos]

I am very pleased to be in the updated entry list http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/tongue-anim.gif
Certainly,I feel obligated to admit that France isn't
as difficult as I said.A lot of practice this week
made me a better driver in tarmac!!
I hope that I will be plased in a preferential position
with enough points :D

[Mithus]

Shakedown:

2:41,25
2:34,58
2:32,14

[JTLarsen]

Had great rally, managed a couple of PBs and we really enjoyed the wet stages, allthough they were not without a couple of odd moments when sliding/balancing the car at full speed with 3 wheels on the grass :D

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/5264/irc1.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3898/irc2.jpg

[RALLY-boy]

Brand New livery of the team OTM:
http://photos1.hi5.com/0091/375/480/.g4fay375480-02.png

[tannat]

Shakedown:

2:34,58
2:32,14

2:32.xx is quite good, Mithus :up:

[Mithus]

2:32.xx is quite good, Mithus :up:

Thanks....i'm enjoying the setup of the car...but still some homework to do.
It's a very difficult rally, but it remindes me a lot of my home event (Rally Vinho Madeira).

[pettersolberg29]

Great livery Rally-Boy.

I'm just using the UK Kris Meeke one which is good enough I suppose! Personally my fav. livery.

[52Paddy]

I hope to have a bit more confidence in this round. If all goes well, the old C2 should be back in form: that's to say that my PC version/steering wheel combination might be back at my disposal. :D

But I don't want to jinx my chances so we shall see.

Would I be right in assuming that each round of this championship starts on the Monday prior to the real-life event and ends the following Sunday?

[tannat]

I
Would I be right in assuming that each round of this championship starts on the Monday prior to the real-life event and ends the following Sunday?


You got it..

Starting this one a bit early compared to the real life one as the WRC is a bit hectic at the end of June...

[lcd]

Car set up In Belgium gives me a headache, because each stage demands different settings;I think gear box and suspension hardness are the keys for good times!
Question: How times near 2.30.xx In shakedown s.s. 10 are possible? :confused:
I'd like to see a replay of such a run..! Can anyone upload ?

[Mithus]

Is there any program to "record" it, besides frapes?

(FREE :D )

[I am evil Homer]

Shakedown:
2:30.64
2:39.70.....two big mistakes and a battered car by the end!

Rally itself was excellent for Day 1, car was great set what felt like very good times. Day 2 was more tricky and I think I could have gone faster at times so I hope the Day 1 times give me enough of a cushion. Also made a mistake on one of the stages which cost me a few seconds and that could really hurt come the overall result.

[tannat]

Car set up In Belgium gives me a headache, because each stage demands different settings;I think gear box and suspension hardness are the keys for good times!
Question: How times near 2.30.xx In shakedown s.s. 10 are possible? :confused:
I'd like to see a replay of such a run..! Can anyone upload ?


I'm on a PS1, but can tell you this stage is nearly completely flat out with no brakes.

I tap the rear of the car on walls and railing from time to time, and handbrake the hairpins, but never brake on this stage.

My setup

Gearbox 0 (-1 may be an option)
Suspension +4

I use the stock PS1 controller thumbpad

[I am evil Homer]

Gearbox -1
Suspension +4
Steering + 2 (or -...whatever makes it quicker!)

[lcd]

I'm on a PS1, but can tell you this stage is nearly completely flat out with no brakes.I tap the rear of the car on walls and railing from time to time, and handbrake the hairpins, but never brake on this stage.

I had some suspicions that no breaks required..but I guess I'm not at that level, not to use them at all!!! :p
Thanx for sharing your set up 'secrets' !!! :D

[52Paddy]

I did 3 shakedown runs and got a best time of 2:43.?? But there is a lot of room for improvement, I just didn't want to waste time with it. It turns out that I have my PC version back (for now, at least) and I ran the rally with it and my wheel. Immediately, I felt way more in control and the shakedown warmed me up for the rally itself.

Day 1 went very well. No major driver errors, though a little cautious in places. I was very happy with my pace nonetheless and the conditions were perfect for S1600 machinery. Day 2 wasn't as good, but still reasonable. I had a spin on SS5 by taking a line too wide through one of the corners, then stalled it trying to pull away from an uphill hairpin. On SS6, I spun into the trees about half way through the stage, and that was a costly mistake. Other than that, day 2 was fairly good to be honest. The S1600 car didn't handle the best in the rain, a lot of understeer under acceleration, which was a problem on the long sweeping corners.

All in all, it was great fun and very enjoyable to rally with the PC wheel and game at my disposal again. I think I can do ok at this round. I'm putting my sights on the Attila Betegga cup for this season. It would be a bit optimistic to try and beat PS29 or Mithus but I think I can give the rest a run for their money (at least S1600 competitors.)

[lcd]

Not a good rally for me..!
I didn't have enough time to tune the set up on dampers and diff settings
so, unlike the other drivers, I did not know my car intimately!

Day 1 started pretty good, but at the end of It, I wasn't fully concentrated
and braked more than I should... During day 2, I was struggling to drive fast with
minimum use of brakes on slippery wet tarmac, but I'm not satisfied with my times...

It would be a miracle to score any points, though I'm happy I did some PB's!
At least, I've got a lot of usefull data to take away, for forthcoming tarmac events!

It was a nice event though, with good stages.
It was hard for me to do too much here..!

[jimakos]

Hi everyone guys.I would like to disclose that was the first time I used the set up and rally was completely different :rolleyes:

I think I have made pretty times but not for a very high position.
I told before rally begins that tarmac isn't my strong point!!
I just had to certify that but nevermind.

I'm really satisfied with my times and hope in a good position.

Good bue from beautiful Greece!!!!

[steve_spackman]

Shall be submitting my times sometime today!

[pettersolberg29]

^Same

[Mithus]

Just finished the rally.

Day 1 Stages went very well. The car setup was very good, and gave me a lot of confidence. I think i did some good stage times, but have to wait and see.

Day 2 was also nice, had to do some setup changes because of the very slippery conditions. I think i managed not to lose 2 many seconds when comparison with day 1 times.

In 1 ou 2 points pushed 2 hard and almost crashed, but fortunely managed to evoid disaster.

[steve_spackman]

day 2 is being run today..results are due

[Frozzy]

Completed the rally and it was a unique experience the car was much faster in the dry then than the wet although it was apretty good rally
Good luck Everyone !

[Mithus]

Car set up In Belgium gives me a headache, because each stage demands different settings;I think gear box and suspension hardness are the keys for good times!



Question: How times near 2.30.xx In shakedown s.s. 10 are possible? :confused:
I'd like to see a replay of such a run..! Can anyone upload ?



Here's a video of one of my Shakedown runs (testing a new setup):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbUq-iMWuVghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbUq-iMWuVg&feature=channel_page

Sorry for the poor quality, but had to reduce the file size.

Hope you like it :up:

P.S: LCD thanks once again mate

[Mithus]

Car set up In Belgium gives me a headache, because each stage demands different settings;I think gear box and suspension hardness are the keys for good times!

Question: How times near 2.30.xx In shakedown s.s. 10 are possible? :confused:
I'd like to see a replay of such a run..! Can anyone upload ?


Here's one of my Shakedown runs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rNlAnLQRPA

Sorry for the poor quality, but had to resize the file.

Hope you guys like it!!! :up:

[Mithus]

Car set up In Belgium gives me a headache, because each stage demands different settings;I think gear box and suspension hardness are the keys for good times!




Question: How times near 2.30.xx In shakedown s.s. 10 are possible? :confused:
I'd like to see a replay of such a run..! Can anyone upload ?


Here's one of my Shakedown runs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmzA5mMVYUo

Sorry for the poor quality, but had to resize the file.

Hope you guys like it!!! :up:

[jso1985]

Rally Completed

"We are still lacking practice with the S2000 Car, yet the car seemed to be more fit for tarmac than a WRC car so we feel we did a pretty good rally, although there was some little event on SS3 when we found out for the 234th time that sliding on the grass isn't the best idea to take a turn!"

[steve_spackman]

Here's one of my Shakedown runs:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmzA5mMVYUo

Sorry for the poor quality, but had to resize the file.

Hope you guys like it!!! :up:

Thanks for the link..By the way could you tell me how to record replays from the game?

[steve_spackman]

Times are in!! Im not too sure i did well, but then its my first event of the season so we shall see...

[52Paddy]

Thanks for the link..By the way could you tell me how to record replays from the game?

Fraps is good for that kind of stuff though the free trial version has limited recording ability.

[tannat]

13 entries :up:

[tannat]

Just completed my rally. Bit of practice with the Skoda (Puma) would have been nice, but our times were good. Just ticks off our PBs in most cases.

Once I had completed the rally I did a few of the dry stages with my S1600 ride and think I would have finished higher had i competed with it. The WRC is far more stable with more grip, and i feel more comfortable pushing it at 10/10ths.

But our goal here was to help Skoda in the S2000 manufacturers title :D

[tannat]

Issues with a time card. Hope to have results within 24 hours...

[pettersolberg29]

Did Mithus go riduculously fast on all the other stages as well as Shakedown!?

[tannat]

Did Mithus go riduculously fast on all the other stages as well as Shakedown!?

You'll find out soon enough... ;)

[tannat]

A not so comfortable win for Homer in challenging conditions. He was followed home closely by PS29 also in a Peugeot, with Mithus upholding Skoda's honor with a fine drive to third.

4th -7th was a Skoda brigade in the following order: NOR-Tannat-JTL-jso1985. Jimakos took the final points position in 8th.

In a narrow battle for 9th Paddy Cummins held off LCD on the final stage to take the position by 8/100ths of a second!

Championship tables to follow

1--Homer------S2000----Peugeot----20:06.00
2--PS29-------S2000----Peugeot----20:17.00
3--Mithus------S2000----Skoda------20:28.31
4--NOR--------S2000----Skoda------21:0804
5--Tannat-----S2000----Skoda------21:47.87
6--JTL---------S2000----Skoda------21:49.85
7--jso1985-----S2000----Skoda------21:58.23
8--jimakos-----S2000----Peugeot----22:26.80
9--Paddy------S1600----Citroen-----22:48.31
10-LCD--------S2000----Peugeot----22:48.39
11-Frozzy------S2000----MG--------24:32.13
12-SteveS-----S2000----Peugeot----27:04.20

[tannat]

Bit miffed as I hoped to contribute to the Skoda manufactuer's points, yet finished too low..

Shoulda driven the Toyota S1600......


Cheers to JTL. Nice improvement on those tarmac times, buddy :up:

[pettersolberg29]

Great entrylist and I'm chuffed with 2nd - basically a win if Homer's involved!
I'll never get closer to him, and its surprising to beat Mithus after the pace he had on shakedown.
Amazing battle for 9th as well!

Well done all for keeping up a high entry.

[Mithus]

Great entrylist and I'm chuffed with 2nd - basically a win if Homer's involved!
I'll never get closer to him, and its surprising to beat Mithus after the pace he had on shakedown.
Amazing battle for 9th as well!

Well done all for keeping up a high entry.

Great race Homer and PS29. Very close :D

[JTLarsen]

Wow! I'm really pleased with 6th, great battle Jso & Tannat!

[Mithus]

Some great battles on this rally...way to go guys :up:

[52Paddy]

Cool, great stuff! Great battle LCD but I guess the better man won :D :up: Hopefully the PC version won't let me down for the rest of the season and I can continue to build on this pace because I'm sure I can score a few top 8 finishes before the season is out. Do I get any S1600 points or did I need a top 8?

[tannat]

Do I get any S1600 points or did I need a top 8?


I'm actually doing the tables based on garnered championship points, so I'm afraid not Paddy (sorry).

Although you had a fine finish for an S1600 :up:

I'm going back to S1600 for the next round. This Puma thing ain't for me....

[tannat]

1) Henri Toivonen Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish in the championship

1---Homer------S2000----Peugeot------50
2---NOR--------S2000----Skoda--------29
3---jso1985-----S2000----Skoda-------20
4---Tannat------S1600----Toyota------19
4---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----19
6---JTLarsen----S2000----Skoda-------15
7---Mithus------S2000----Peugeot-----12
8---Ramore------S1600----Toyota-----10
9---LCD---------S2000----Peugeot------6
10---Zes--------S1600----Abarth--------5
11--Frozzy------S2000----MG-----------4
12--Jimakos-----S2000----Peugeot-----3


2) Michael Parks Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish by a competitor with no wins

1---NOR--------S2000----Skoda--------29
2---jso1985-----S2000----Skoda-------20
3---PS29--------S2000----Peugeot-----19
3---Tannat------S1600----Toyota------19
5---JTLarsen----S2000----Skoda-------15
6---Mithus------S2000----Peugeot------12
7---Ramore------S1600----Toyota------10
8---LCD---------S2000----Peugeot-------6
9---Zes---------S1600----Abarth---------5
10--Frozzy------S2000----MG------------4
11--Jimakos-----S2000----Peugeot------3

3) Attilio Bettega Cup
-awarded to the highest points finish by a competitor with no podium placings

1---JTLarsen----S2000----Skoda--------15
2---Mithus------S2000----Peugeot------12
3---LCD---------S2000----Peugeot-------6
4---Zes---------S1600----Abarth---------5
5--Frozzy------S2000----MG--------------4
6--Jimakos-----S2000----Peugeot--------2


4) Manufacturers Championship
-points awarded to two highest finishers of each marque

1-Peugeot-----75
2-Skoda-------60
3-Toyota------26
4-Fiat-----------5
5-MG-----------4
6-Citroen-------1

NEXT ROUND: JULY 6-13 RUSSIA (Finland stages)

[tannat]

2:29,89 02:23.1 2.48.39 02:20.9 2:21,01 02:35.3 02:36.8 02:38.8 02:16.3 02:31.9 03:10.0 02:29.8
2:37,26 02:29.5 2.53.67 02:23.3 2:23,77 02:42.3 02:37.9 02:36.1 02:22.9 02:35.8 03:14.5 02:36.6
2:47,91 02:40.9 3.05.57 02:34.4 2:37,55 02:54.6 02:54.0 02:50.2 02:33.1 02:50.2 03:07.5 02:44.1
2;49,48 2:46:54 3.17.28 02:39.0 2:37,92 02:53.0 02:59.5 02:55.7 02:36.1 02:50.5 03:49.5 02:51.1
2;36,29 02:30.2 3.01.93 02:24.7 2:27,76 02:40.4 02:44.0 02:47.0 02:24.5 02:35.1 03:31.7 02:33.2
2:42,00 02:36.9 2.57.90 02:27.5 2:29,32 02:44.1 02:49.5 02:54.4 02:30.8 02:42.6 03:07.4 02:43.3
2:55,69 02:45.9 3.13.90 02:40.0 2:45,96 02:55.2 03:00.9 03:00.0 02:38.0 02:50.6 03:25.3 02:51.4
2;59,71 02:55.0 3.13.49 02:47.2 2:45,02 03:01.8 03:05.7 03:06.0 02:44.3 02:53.2 03:45.3 02:58.4

21:58.2-21:08.0--24:32.1--20:17.0--20:28,31--22:26.8-22:48.4--22:48.3--20:06.0--21:49.9--27:04.2--21:47.9


jso------ NOR------Frozzy-- PS29---- Mithus---jimakos---LCD-----Paddy----Homer---JTL-------SS------Tannat

[tannat]

JSO1985
2:29,89
2:37,26
2:47,91
2;49,48
2;36,29
2:42,00
2:55,69
2;59,71

21:58.2


NOR
02:23.1
02:29.5
02:40.9
2:46:54
02:30.2
02:36.9
02:45.9
02:55.0

21:08.0


Frozzy
2.48.39
2.53.67
3.05.57
3.17.28
3.01.93
2.57.90
3.13.90
3.13.49

24:32.1


PS29
02:20.9
02:23.3
02:34.4
02:39.0
02:24.7
02:27.5
02:40.0
02:47.2

20:17.0


Mithus
2:21,01
2:23,77
2:37,55
2:37,92
2:27,76
2:29,32
2:45,96
2:45,02

20:28,31


Jimakos
02:35.3
02:42.3
02:54.6
02:53.0
02:40.4
02:44.1
02:55.2
03:01.8

22:26.8


LCD
02:36.8
02:37.9
02:54.0
02:59.5
02:44.0
02:49.5
03:00.9
03:05.7

22:48.4


Paddy
02:38.8
02:36.1
02:50.2
02:55.7
02:47.0
02:54.4
03:00.0
03:06.0

22:48.3


Homer
02:16.3
02:22.9
02:33.1
02:36.1
02:24.5
02:30.8
02:38.0
02:44.3

20:06.0


JTL
02:31.9
02:35.8
02:50.2
02:50.5
02:35.1
02:42.6
02:50.6
02:53.2

21:49.9


Steve S
03:10.0
03:14.5
03:07.5
03:49.5
03:31.7
03:07.4
03:25.3
03:45.3

27:04.2

Tannat
02:29.8
02:36.6
02:44.1
02:51.1
02:33.2
02:43.3
02:51.4
02:58.4

21:47.9

[lcd]

No points for me In this rally, but as I've already said,
got useful data for forthcoming tarmac events!
Gongrats to top 3 drivers! :up: Great battles between Tannat and JTL! :up:
Unbelieveable 8/100ths of a second difference between me and Paddy....
Wow,that was almost real stuff mate! :D
Great job for jimakos finishing In top 8! ;)

Bring on Russia!

[52Paddy]

Happy with some stage times there, it was really the wet stages that set me back. I'll be aiming for a top 8 in the next round though :)

[jimakos]

I'm not completely satisfied with 8th position but nevermind :) .
At least I'm happy on my 3 general points in championship!!

Although,I would like to ask how times as 2:16.3 in ss1 are possible for the most of us.
Is there any trick you use or just years of practice made you better??

[pettersolberg29]

Although,I would like to ask how times as 2:16.3 in ss1 are possible for the most of us.
Is there any trick you use or just years of practice made you better??

I wouldn't aim anywhere near Homer's times until at least 5 years of practice!! The guy's unbeatable...

[jimakos]

Ι’m not talking only for Hommer.
Generally,times of most competitors are very improved and I´m curious if set up is so important for races or something else happens!!!

[steve_spackman]

I am ashamed at my times compared with others..oh dear, i think i have to get some practice with the cars.

[tannat]

I am ashamed at my times compared with others..oh dear, i think i have to get some practice with the cars.

We are all here to help, Steve.

Just drop a line if you want some tips.

I think Greece is next for the WRC and Finland for the IRC...

[tannat]

I am ashamed at my times compared with others..oh dear, i think i have to get some practice with the cars.

Use the search tool and search for past rallies over the past several years. In all of the threads there is typicallys a discussion on stages, setups, etc..

And don't forget to search the archives as well....

[lcd]

I am ashamed at my times compared with others..oh dear, i think i have to get some practice with the cars.

Let's not miss the fun of cmr2 championship by trying to achieve the best of the best times!
I mean the point Is participating! Afterall, If I have to say my opinion about the Issue arose,
I believe It's a matter of experience mostly: I am better In some games and worse In others,
depending how long I play them!
So, don't worry about If your results aren't always good! :)
Thousands of views and hundrends of posts In these threads, aren't made just for who will come first or second!

Take It easy and enjoy the fun! :p :

[jso1985]

I'm not completely satisfied with 8th position but nevermind :) .
At least I'm happy on my 3 general points in championship!!

Although,I would like to ask how times as 2:16.3 in ss1 are possible for the most of us.
Is there any trick you use or just years of practice made you better??

I reckon having a wheel instead of a joypad or keyboard can improve your times masively once you get tthe grip of it!

[jimakos]

I have try to play with a wheel and it was a disaster :) .
This time I'm playing with a joystick and I'm very pleased!!
Wheel needs years of practice and to drive from inside :confused:

That's not for me!!!

[52Paddy]

Although you don't seem convinced, jimakos, I agree with jso. When I converted to the wheel from the keyboard and joypad a few years ago, it was a little difficult at first. But after a few runs through the stages, I found more precision in my driving. A more direct feel for where the stage was going and a foresight in getting the car into the apex (or avoiding it, if it be the case.) My times are best when I'm driving with the wheel now. So much so, that I can't compete competitively at all with anything else.

Other than that, you just have to know the stages. You need to know how to carry maximum speed through every corner and keep your lines as smooth and flowing as possible. Yes, easier said than done, and I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert. I've been rallying in this championship on and off since 2004 and I still find it a challenge to score points!

[tannat]

I have try to play with a wheel and it was a disaster :) .
This time I'm playing with a joystick and I'm very pleased!!
Wheel needs years of practice and to drive from inside :confused:

That's not for me!!!

Marcel has pointed out that 'faster' computers can make for better times.

I know I am far faster on my PS1 than on my very old PC.....

[jimakos]

Marcel has pointed out that 'faster' computers can make for better times.

I know I am far faster on my PS1 than on my very old PC.....

This opinion is absolutely right.I agree 100%.
My computer is also quite old and abilities aren't the best :)
I have found serious differences on pc and on ps but unfortunately I haven't got my own ps!!

[RALLY-boy]

Congrats to the 3 podium guys

great battles betwen others too

i lost this rally :( because my modem( internet device conection) blow up so i had to wait for new one and here i'm again hehe

next rally i will be there for sure!