Subaru wrx and wrc 2008! [Archive]

Brother John

15th February 2007, 08:56

http://www.kanaaltwee.be/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif Fotoshop or real photograph?
http://www.automotorsport.se/nyhets...p?version=46536 (http://www.automotorsport.se/nyhetsmall.asp?version=46536)

http://www.automotorsport.se/uploaded/image/2007/2/15/Impreza_rally330.jpg
http://ozz.ru/index.php?PHPSESSID=c...topic=17492.new (http://ozz.ru/index.php?PHPSESSID=cb5880b65b7c78c64a86a725083796 56&topic=17492.new)

ST205GT4

15th February 2007, 09:03

Looks like PS to me. The front end of the image is exactly the same as the image that was floating around of a four door months ago. Looks like they've just grafted on the hatchback to the same shot to me.

padWRC

15th February 2007, 09:04

Looks great!!!

Halvis

15th February 2007, 09:05

Brother John

15th February 2007, 09:10

WRX looks real to me!
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6329/untitled51qj1.jpg
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8833/normaluntitled22um3.jpg

Woodeye

15th February 2007, 09:12

I think that is still the concept of the coming car. I remember posting a picture of quite similar car in the old forum.

ST205GT4

15th February 2007, 09:14

I present you with images released in July of last year BJ :)

http://www.scoobyblog.com/2006-07-06/2008-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-concept-pictures/

Amazing how similar the lighting and angles are no?

Brother John

15th February 2007, 09:16

I present you with images released in July of last year BJ :)

http://www.scoobyblog.com/2006-07-06/2008-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-concept-pictures/

Amazing how similar the lighting and angles are no?

Then we have to wait till the Geneve Motor Show! ;)

WRC2006

15th February 2007, 11:20

Daniel

15th February 2007, 12:19

Extreeeeemely bad photoshop. What a stupid picture to actually choose for a photochop.

leno

15th February 2007, 13:56

i tihnik it is real and to me it looks beautiful

WRC2006

15th February 2007, 15:05

Extreeeeemely bad photoshop. What a stupid picture to actually choose for a photochop.

Yes Extreeeeemely stupid picture for photochop but not for photoshop.!!

Erki

15th February 2007, 15:16

It looks like Petter took the boot off.

MadCat

15th February 2007, 15:34

From the angle of the picture, the rear looks similar to a Fabia WRC? http://www.pidocchio.net/turboland/WRCSardinia2005/shakedown/024%20Skoda%20Fabia%20WRC.jpg

and its blatant photoshop, just look at the reflections in the side on the supposed rally car and the road car ;)

Brother John

15th February 2007, 15:38

Extreeeeemely bad photoshop. What a stupid picture to actually choose for a photochop.

If this is bad then your brain is not OK!
It looks better then your car! :laugh: Peugeot I mean! :D

koko0703

15th February 2007, 21:20

WRX looks real picture....at least real concept car, but WRCar looks fake. Beside the WRCar still says "Pirelli" ;)

sasamsa

15th February 2007, 21:33

It looks like some anime character with that headlights...
I like this one better:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_425/car_photo_212758_7.jpg (http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_425/car_photo_212758_7.jpg)

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/205057/subaru_impreza.html
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2270

Spud

16th February 2007, 03:37

I had heard that the next WRX was going to be a hatchback of some kind....picture of WRC car looks like PS to me tho....

pflugi

16th February 2007, 03:42

Are we sure that the next WRC Impreza is going to be a hatchback? I thought so for sure, but then I read that Subaru are going to keep the Impreza sedan as well as add a 5-door hatch. I'm hoping for a hatch, as it would probably be better, but who knows?

Article here:
http://sedans.autoblog.com/2007/02/15/subaru-confirms-impreza-wrx-and-sedan-are-safe/

Spud

16th February 2007, 03:52

As Ive said, Ive only heard this..would be interesting I think to see what a WRX hatch would look like...

tribefiend

16th February 2007, 06:16

Hideous. Can't stand it.

306 Cosworth

16th February 2007, 21:31

What an ugly car that is :s

David V

16th February 2007, 21:46

This one looks real to me
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_425/car_photo_212757_5.jpg

Daniel

16th February 2007, 21:54

No it's fake. Anything that's ever in Autoexpress is fake. Autoexpress is purely the worl of photoshop artists.

newaddict

16th February 2007, 22:38

i hope it is strong, fast and dependable
i would love to see three Manu. podiums
great fights
no more suby problems like before.

i am a loeb fan, but want tight fights, would love to see solberg jumping up and down on top of his car again!

go suby!

SubaruNorway

7th August 2007, 19:55

Does anyone know how far Prodrive have gothen with the 2008 wrc car.

DonJippo

7th August 2007, 20:41

Does anyone know how far Prodrive have gothen with the 2008 wrc car.

So far that they are forced to postpone the first event for it till Acropolis 2008... :dozey:

SubaruNorway

7th August 2007, 22:29

What? where did you read that?

jonas_mcrae

7th August 2007, 23:44

this is the real Sti
http://www.scoobyblog.com/2007-07-03/2008-impreza-sti-spotted/
testing at Nurbugring is not very nice but it has started to look Sti!!

gojisube

8th August 2007, 00:35

SWRT has been performing like they were Skoda, but does the car have to look like one as well?

Spud

8th August 2007, 05:49

Does anyone know how far Prodrive have gothen with the 2008 wrc car.

I dont think they have gotten very far but Im VERY curious to see how the WRCar is going to look....from the pics of the STi testing at the ring, it may not be as bad as Im expecting...

leopard

8th August 2007, 07:14

It's workable for me :D

DonJippo

8th August 2007, 07:44

What? where did you read that?

Finnish magazine called "Veikkaaja".

SubaruNorway

8th August 2007, 12:48

Finnish magazine called "Veikkaaja".

Ok, i also heard that they had not buildt the prototype yet.

Timole

8th August 2007, 13:03

I totally dislike the new look of the Impreza. It´will not be the same angry rallycar anymore for me next year if the car on pics will come alivel and they will develop the new Impreza like that.

doodle

8th August 2007, 13:34

To me it Looks like a mazda 323 with a bodykit - not good. although i think it did need to change.

http://www.scoobyblog.com/uploads/2007/07/011.jpg
http://www1.autotrader.com.au/mellor/MELLOR.NSF/0/6DF1210021C2F0ECCA2569EB0012C3C0/$file/2001.2.13%208nq%20ovf_v1%20Mazda%20323%20Astina%20 1.6.jpg
http://www.scoobyblog.com/uploads/2007/07/06.jpg
http://estaticos01.cache.el-mundo.net/elmundomotor/especiales/2001/12/anuario_motor/imagenes/coches/mazda_232_g.jpg

maybe i'm talking rubbish... just my opinion.

leno

8th August 2007, 20:10

for me it looks strange for rally car. but if it will be the winning car again i will be very very happy

feresc13

8th August 2007, 21:10

To me it Looks like a mazda 323 with a bodykit - not good. although i think it did need to change.

maybe i'm talking rubbish... just my opinion.

I agree with you, the new Impreza is a Mazda 3

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amberie

8th August 2007, 21:10

Here's a mock up of the 2008 rally car from the Subaru display at the X Games:

feresc13

8th August 2007, 21:11

And have a look to this other one

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Spud

9th August 2007, 05:54

Here's a mock up of the 2008 rally car from the Subaru display at the X Games:

Not sure Im loving that look at all....maybe it will look better in Tarmac spec....

MJW

9th August 2007, 11:55

Autosport magazine in UK, published thursday 9th august, says it could be NORF 2008 for the first event for the new Subaru Impreza.

SubaruNorway

9th August 2007, 11:55

This doesen't look to bad does it http://www.bilnorge.no/vis_bilder.php3?b=bb_52022.jpeg&aid=31089&tid=16

superg

9th August 2007, 16:41

08 WRC concept released by Subaru.

superg

9th August 2007, 16:42

Front view.

bt52b

9th August 2007, 23:05

hi-res photos here (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/09/first-look-subaru-wrc-concept-heading-to-frankfurt/)

Do Subaru know something we don't? 2008 car on BF Goodrich ;)

4westdan

10th August 2007, 09:36

Only slightly different but here are the official images. The full story is available on ukcarnews.com

Subaru's new model blitz for Frankfurt

Subaru has chosen September’s 62nd Frankfurt International Motor Show (IAA) for the biggest new model blitz in its history.

Key attractions include the European debut for the completely new Impreza, a striking World Rally Car Concept, facelifted Tribeca luxury SUV, totally new Justy supermini and the world’s first horizontally-opposed ‘boxer’ turbo-diesel engine – due to be progressively installed in various models from spring 2008.

Subaru WRC driver, Petter Solberg, will address the Subaru press conference (Tuesday, September 11, Hall 8 at 2 pm) when the new Impreza-based WRC Concept will be unveiled.

Described as an indication of future styling trends for a world rally car, the WRC Concept is sure to draw the crowds – and conjure up speculation among enthusiasts and the press alike.

Also presenting at the press conference is Mr Matsatsugu Nagato, Fuji Heavy Industries’ Executive Vice President in charge of European markets.

4westdan

10th August 2007, 09:37

and here's the front end

jonas_mcrae

10th August 2007, 13:26

its the same in all the pics inst it? I still think is photoshop, maybe official photoshop but in the end photoshop. However; it is starting to look better!

Spud

11th August 2007, 06:06

hi-res photos here (http://www.autoblog.com/2007/08/09/first-look-subaru-wrc-concept-heading-to-frankfurt/)

Do Subaru know something we don't? 2008 car on BF Goodrich ;)

Like I said....the car does look better in tarmac spec!!!!!

Rally Hokkaido

11th August 2007, 06:56

Here's a mock up of the 2008 rally car from the Subaru display at the X Games:
Yes, but that's a mock-up of a GpN car. Isn't this thread about he new WRCar?
BTW, Toshi Arai already has a GpN car built and is waiting Subaru's permission to test it.
I believe WRX Sti road car official release in Japan is next month so they don't want him to take it out of the workshop before then.

Koz

11th August 2007, 07:05

I like the new look. But its sad, i guess, to see the old look gone. It looks like a totally different car :(
Looks like some low-end luxuary hatchback car for some reason...

koko0703

11th August 2007, 07:59

Better appearance is important for Subaru to sell more cars, but the competitiveness is the most important aspect for WRCar. I can take some ugly Impreza as long as it is competitive against Ford & Citroen.

leno

11th August 2007, 09:14

tmx

11th August 2007, 13:51

the subaru wrc car should had adopted the hatchback design 3 years ago for better stability.

leno

11th August 2007, 17:58

yes they lost red line with ford and citroen :D i hope this new shape will help to develop car more competitive

curry

12th August 2007, 07:25

Anyone else think it looks like a bit like a focus when viewing from the rear quarter?

feresc13

12th August 2007, 07:50

Nowadays lots of cars seem the same.

Have a look at Mazda 3, New Impreza, Kia Ceed and Hyundai I30

feresc13

14th August 2007, 14:56

Have a look to this video, Subaru engineers must work a lot on STi and WRC to make a competetive car...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmYnA7iGMoU

Brother John

14th August 2007, 15:19

And at last taxi model has disappeared, but is the new one better ore ready for wrc? I don´t think so! :dozey: :s mokin:

PuddleJumper

15th August 2007, 16:22

http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/view/361735.jpg

http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/view/361736.jpg

Edit: Sorry, just realised they've already been seen. :p :

SubaruNorway

15th August 2007, 16:35

jepp a week ore so ago

ZequeArgentina

15th August 2007, 17:41

Yes, but that's a mock-up of a GpN car. Isn't this thread about he new WRCar?
BTW, Toshi Arai already has a GpN car built and is waiting Subaru's permission to test it.
I believe WRX Sti road car official release in Japan is next month so they don't want him to take it out of the workshop before then.

Barattero Team here in Argentina (Subatu STI representative) has already began tests with 2008 Gr. N Imprezzas last week, testing mainly suspension. Unfortunately no photos

pantealex

16th August 2007, 21:28

Tommi Mäkinen Racing also has group-n car ready, but they can not show it before IAA Frankfurt (middle of september) where European roadmodel will be uncovered.

Koppomsbo

3rd September 2007, 17:47

http://www.wrc.com/page/News/BreakingNewsDetail/0,,10111~1103835,00.html

Nice or ugly?? Myself i like it, its there more pics somewhere??

Langdale Forest

3rd September 2007, 17:54

It looks good. It looks more like the Ford Focus and the Citroen C4 than the Subaru Impreza 2007.

Josti

3rd September 2007, 22:00

Ugly car, but whatever the looks. Most importantly, this car needs to be competitive!

Priorat

3rd September 2007, 22:18

I don't like that

But I found this other one, I don't remember where, and I like it.

DonJippo

3rd September 2007, 22:44

Nice or ugly?? Myself i like it, its there more pics somewhere??

Maybe it is the angle but it sure does look nose heavy and that is not a good thing...

Maui J.

3rd September 2007, 23:17

The new shape Imprezas were used as the Zero Cars at Rally NZ at the weekend.

Daniel

4th September 2007, 00:21

I don't like that

But I found this other one, I don't remember where, and I like it.
That's a photoshop.

RallyCat909

4th September 2007, 04:05

I hope they perform, because they are ugly as sin. I really hate seeing Subaru in the shape its in now.

Donney

4th September 2007, 08:41

That Zero car is pig ugly.

Livewireshock

4th September 2007, 09:08

Having stuck my head under the bonnet of the Rally NZ Zero cars, I can say that the engineering is truely different from the previous model. As a vehicle, the drivers were impressed with it's on & off road capability.

They had only three weeks to prepare the cars and it was a rush & a bit of a battle. Electronics were a headache due to major changes in the loom & setup. With all said & done, they performed well.

Glee

4th September 2007, 09:25

That Zero car is pig ugly.

I don’t care if it looks like the Elephant Man, if it is quick and reliabel…

Ferjancz

4th September 2007, 17:13

Well the car is not photoshop work ! It will look just like that ugly!! and I've read smoewhere that even Solberg don't like the car !! But we will see!!! I really hope that the car will be competitive!!

SubaruNorway

4th September 2007, 17:30

It looks much better in real life

Roy

4th September 2007, 18:01

It is not imortant the car is ugly or not. The most ugly car in WRC is most succesfull, Xsara. I hope the Subuaru will be competitive, nice for the sport.
BTW: I like the car. ;)

Donney

4th September 2007, 18:04

I don’t care if it looks like the Elephant Man, if it is quick and reliabel…

I agree with you here but it still looks hideous ;)

SubaruNorway

4th September 2007, 18:55

Looks pretty neat from the front, and this is just the wrx, the sti and wrc cars will look great i think and there wil most probably be made some aftermarket tailights

http://gallery.wrcfm.com/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=RallyNZ+2007%2FDay+2%2FSS8%2FIMG_5490.JPG

A.F.F.

4th September 2007, 20:21

Odd.... I find it very cool looking :eek:

But then again, I drive Skoda :p :

Livewireshock

5th September 2007, 10:42

I don’t care if it looks like the Elephant Man, if it is quick and reliabel…

" I am not an animal, I am a WRC contender!!!! "

LOL

Mickey T

5th September 2007, 11:15

I've read smoewhere that even Solberg don't like the car !!

do you think solberg will actually ever drive it in a rally?

Gard

5th September 2007, 11:32

do you think solberg will actually ever drive it in a rally?

That really is the question, isn't it?

A.F.F.

5th September 2007, 20:29

" I am not an animal, I am a WRC contender!!!! "

LOL

:laugh:

Classic line from a classic movie.

SubaruNorway

11th September 2007, 19:10

The new car at the Frankfurt motorshow http://atvs.vg.no/player/index.php?id=11405

Karbonyl

11th September 2007, 19:54

No STi there... ;(

noel157

11th September 2007, 20:15

Nurburgring Test video
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=XNWXF2xWjkY

Frankfurt show:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/11/frankfurt-2007-subaru-impreza-wrc-concept/

Thanks to BMW320d and BT52B for links.

bt52b

12th September 2007, 00:07

Subaru are due to show the STi and the boxer diesel engine.

jparker

12th September 2007, 02:12

The new car at the Frankfurt motorshow http://atvs.vg.no/player/index.php?id=11405

Two important messages from Subaru's boss came out of this video.
1. Peter will stay with Subaru.
2. Subaru will continue its WRC program regardless the bad results. That's because Subaru are using WRC to develop their cars.

Sounds good to me

WRCfan

12th September 2007, 05:30

Thats good news!

Subaru are challenging the market in Japan, they are loosing out to other manufacturers, however through motorsport they have a dominance in news and motorsport exposure. WRC = Petter is HUGE in Japan as is Atkinson and SWRT. People after the JGTC (Japan Grand Touring Car Championship) recognise SWRT and Petter before almost all other motorsports.

Subaru needs to keep up a WRC program in order to not fade into the back seats of the Japan automobile industry. The more exposure they get the better it is for them! Also keeping Petter is a key component for popularity in Japan. Blonde, according to Japanese women (Petter's a heart throb), and a personality which would make anyone like WRC, a win win situaiton. Now all they need is the results to really boast!

Ferjancz

12th September 2007, 06:10

do you think solberg will actually ever drive it in a rally?

Two important messages from Subaru's boss came out of this video.
1. Peter will stay with Subaru.
2. Subaru will continue its WRC program regardless the bad results. That's because Subaru are using WRC to develop their cars.

Well I thing that's the answer of your question :)

Yesterday I saw the Impreza WRX , the road wersion , but well still looks ugly to me :(

Viking

12th September 2007, 12:43

Another video:
http://www.quattroruote.it/francoforte2007/videosaloni.cfm?codvideo=754&salone=122&inizio=1&da=1

The wrc car looks ok, better than the C4 at least :D

American view here:
http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2007/09/11/061659.html

"Another feature of rally racing, the 'tail slide' is also positively affected by the 5-door design which allows the car to power through corners on a variety of surfaces in a more controlled way." :rotflmao:

Rally Hokkaido

12th September 2007, 13:12

.......by the 5-door design which allows the car to power through corners on a variety of surfaces in a more controlled way." :rotflmao:
Speaking of control, I was told by someone with intimate knowledge of the 2008
WRCar project that the new model has more front overhang (distance from front of car to front axle line), which will present an even bigger challenge to turning the wrc car into a consistently good handling machine.
He also believed that due to a delay in achieving homologation numbers, the WRCar will be based on homologation of the normally-engined Impreza, not the WRX Sti. Most noticeable result of this is that the new WRCar will not have a WRX bonnet scoop, which has always been blocked off in the WRCars, anyway.

noel157

12th September 2007, 13:24

"Another feature of rally racing, the 'tail slide' is also positively affected by the 5-door design which allows the car to power through corners on a variety of surfaces in a more controlled way." :rotflmao:

Ah, that's where the problem is with the C4 and the Focus. Explains why they are so uncompetive...........Has anybody told Papa Wilson or M Frequelin?

Daniel

12th September 2007, 13:38

It's obvious that some moron who's never seen a rally wrote that.....

Livewireshock

12th September 2007, 13:55

Speaking of control, I was told by someone with intimate knowledge of the 2008
WRCar project that the new model has more front overhang (distance from front of car to front axle line), which will present an even bigger challenge to turning the wrc car into a consistently good handling machine.
He also believed that due to a delay in achieving homologation numbers, the WRCar will be based on homologation of the normally-engined Impreza, not the WRX Sti. Most noticeable result of this is that the new WRCar will not have a WRX bonnet scoop, which has always been blocked off in the WRCars, anyway.

The overhang at the front of the 2008 Subaru Impreza was a noted problem area from the guys who prepared & drove them as Zero cars at Rally NZ.

Daniel

12th September 2007, 14:08

It was also a problem for the 307 when compared to it's little brother the 206. Wheels at the corners has always been the right way unless it's a GT car which needs big overhangs for downforce. Silly that they've got a smaller rear overhang where you can get away with a big one and they've got a bigger front overhang when that's not a good thing :mark:

AndyRAC

12th September 2007, 15:34

Maybe I'm being naive, but surely when the new Impreza was being designed they would have asked Prodrive what they wanted, knowing it will be used as the basis of the WRCar, or haven't they heard of communication? Or don't they give two hoots, so if they design a dogs dinner, that's just tough luck, Prodrive will have to make the best of it. Which funnily enough is what seems to be happening.

bt52b

12th September 2007, 20:24

http://mitglied.lycos.de/goep_3/IAA/iaa16.jpg

Impreza GT Club of Germany
www.impreza-gt-club.com (http://www.impreza-gt-club.com)

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imprezaGTclub

clayne

13th September 2007, 02:30

Impreza GT Club of Germany
www.impreza-gt-club.com (http://www.impreza-gt-club.com)

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=imprezaGTclub

The best part of that youtube video is where bossman mentions "We are always changing to a better car so this one will be better." Petter must have been flipping internally while hearing that.

I've never really been much a fan of *any* of that 2k+ Imprezas, but if I had to pick one, the 03 WRC is probably the winner...

Makinen Touge visit (YouTube) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQTtopeHWqY)

-cl

koko0703

13th September 2007, 13:58

I'm not too optimistic about Subaru's WRC committment. I believe this car is very important not only for Subaru but for the entire WRC because I think the performance of this car will decide whether Subaru will be there in 2010. If you look at the contract situation, Petter, Atko, & Pons are contracted til 2009 (Pons has option for 2009, not sealed contract), which will be the 2nd yr of this car. So in other words, Subaru has no committment beyond 2009 while it is very fair to expect some results by the end of 2nd season of the new car. I won't say Subaru has to win the title but at least 2 or 3 rallies in 2009, and if they fail to do so, Subaru may exit WRC. Then it won't be good news for the entire WRC, either. Not just we'll have less manufacturers but the remaining manufacturers may start to lose their interest in the sport. Remember, the manufacturers are looking forward to beat other companies, not wining the sole make championship.

Anyways the appearance of the car is questionable, but I hope it will turn out to be at least decently competitive.

Daniel

13th September 2007, 14:01

If Subaru leaves I'm sure another manufacturer will see it as an opportunity. After all Lancia left and Subaru filled the gap they left :)

leno

13th September 2007, 15:11

yes but can other manufacturers come on same level like citroen and ford?

DonJippo

13th September 2007, 18:52

yes but can other manufacturers come on same level like citroen and ford?

Of course they can, just requires a lot of hard work.

Karbonyl

14th September 2007, 08:37

Still not official, but here we can see first pics of new STi.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=5093

The photos come from japanese magazine Bestcar.

Priorat

14th September 2007, 11:11

Is it known if Subaru will start 2008 season in Monte-Carlo with the new car or they will debut it later in the season?

leno

14th September 2007, 13:00

Is it known if Subaru will start 2008 season in Monte-Carlo with the new car or they will debut it later in the season?

they will debut later in 2008, they can't make another mistake and give impreza 2008 out as soon as possible.

superg

14th September 2007, 20:47

Speaking of control, I was told by someone with intimate knowledge of the 2008
WRCar project that the new model has more front overhang (distance from front of car to front axle line), which will present an even bigger challenge to turning the wrc car into a consistently good handling machine.
He also believed that due to a delay in achieving homologation numbers, the WRCar will be based on homologation of the normally-engined Impreza, not the WRX Sti. Most noticeable result of this is that the new WRCar will not have a WRX bonnet scoop, which has always been blocked off in the WRCars, anyway.

Exactly my concern. The engine in the 08 WRX is approximately 3" (8 cm) further forward relative to the front wheel centers.

Distance from wheel centers to front of crank pulley:
- 02 WRX (US) 19" (48.3 cm)
- 08 WRX (US) 22" (55.9 cm)

I am sure Prodrive is not happy about this. I wonder if other considerations, such as pedestrian safety, prevailed.

Superg

SubaruNorway

14th September 2007, 20:52

But it sits lower doesen't it wich make up for it a bit

superg

14th September 2007, 21:51

But it sits lower doesen't it wich make up for it a bit

Yes, the lower mounting helps. Re checking my measurements, the position difference may be less than the 3" I stated. Probably closer to 1.5-2". Still significant. When I can do careful measurements on an 08 I will post more accurate results.

By the way, when Subaru says the 08 Impreza is shorter overall than the old, that is relative to the 07. The 02 Impreza was not only shorter overall than the 08, but also had less front overhang.

klm-607

15th September 2007, 04:49

Looks like a Mazda 3 series, 5 door. Not great, but not real bad either.

doodle

9th October 2007, 14:01

Here are the official pictures of the sti - I think the change was needed but i'm still not convinced about the styling - original Impreza shape was iconic where as this is very Generic.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=16929

Josti

9th October 2007, 14:14

It's not ugly, but indeed this shape is very unrecognizable for an Impreza. Shame the designers had no sence of that.

SubaruNorway

9th October 2007, 18:13

Realy starting to get somewere now, i gues it wont take long for a replacement of the rear lights will be on the market

http://imprezadriver.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10381&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

leno

9th October 2007, 18:50

this pics are soo good! first i was very dissapointed about new impreza design but now when i see sti version i m HAPPY

ZequeArgentina

9th October 2007, 22:33

Barattero (Subaru representative with Prodrive, Makinen, Arai and someone else, only STI partners) have been testing a new Subaru for group N (specially developing gravel group N suspension) with a new Imprezza (a prototipe sent by STI, with "normal" and not STI body shape).

Drivers (Sanchez, Yoma and Raies) have done the usual optimistic for the media comments, but in more informal way they just speak about "good for a beggining, not faster than the previous one, at least for the moment"

leno

19th November 2007, 19:34

Is there any news when will SWRT use new impreza??? will be prepared also by prodrive?

COD

19th November 2007, 20:07

Is there any news when will SWRT use new impreza??? will be prepared also by prodrive?

No official new as to when it comes. David Richards said they will defenately have it Finland, maybe sooner. Will be prepared by Prodrive.

leno

20th November 2007, 16:31

No official new as to when it comes. David Richards said they will defenately have it Finland, maybe sooner. Will be prepared by Prodrive.

How long will prodrive prepared imprezas why they dont choose other company? Why STI dont prepare car for swrt? is not good enough or why

SubaruNorway

20th November 2007, 17:43

How long will prodrive prepared imprezas why they dont choose other company? Why STI dont prepare car for swrt? is not good enough or why

It's on the other side of the world, they do make the engines though and some other stuff