Bump Day Confusion

[drewdawg727]

I thought I had understood how bump day works...but I guess I don't since I heard that Milka Duno is on the bubble to get bumped.
From what I understood, the 11th, 22nd, and 33rd spots are the only ones worthy of getting bumped based on those being the last drivers qualified. Why is the 32nd spot worthy of getting bumped next?

Maybe someone can enlighten me and the rest of the people on here who are unfamiliar just how this works because I am still confused.

EDIT: The telecast just answered my question! This thread can be deleted!

[Hoop-98]

I thought I had understood how bump day works...but I guess I don't since I heard that Milka Duno is on the bubble to get bumped.
From what I understood, the 11th, 22nd, and 33rd spots are the only ones worthy of getting bumped based on those being the last drivers qualified. Why is the 32nd spot worthy of getting bumped next?

Maybe someone can enlighten me and the rest of the people on here who are unfamiliar just how this works because I am still confused.

EDIT: The telecast just answered my question! This thread can be deleted!

Here is the field by speed, the slowest driver in the field is bumped, every one behind that driver moves up a spot.

http://i40.tinypic.com/1t1pbp.jpg

rh

[anthonyvop]

Here is the field by speed, the slowest driver in the field is bumped, every one behind that driver moves up a spot.

http://i40.tinypic.com/1t1pbp.jpg

rh

Not true.
33 people can qualify at over 225 MPH today and Helio wil stay on pole.

That is one of my problems with Indy. The fastest qualifier doesn't always start first.

[Alfa Fan]

Hypothetically Helio could still be bumped from Indy if there were 30 more cars to bump him.

[Hoop-98]

Have a nice day Tony, ck back with me at the end of the day and see if my explanation works out ;n) Actually if 33 were faster than Helio he would be bumped. How is that the One Million Problems (oops 999,999)I have with Indy, IRL, and Ovals coming, I so look forward to hearing about all your problems...

http://www.indy500.com

3. The starting field is made up of the 33 fastest qualifiers, regardless of the day on which a car has qualified. Cars are lined up according to their speed ranking on EACH DAY with the fastest qualifier on the first day occupying the MBNA Pole position. The successful second-day qualifiers line up behind the successful first day qualifiers in order of speed with the fastest qualifier of the second day always starting behind the slowest successful qualifier of the first day, regardless of overall speed, followed by the successful qualifiers of the third day, in order of speed, etc.
4. Once a total of 33 cars have qualified and the time allotted for qualifications has not run out, other cars may make qualification attempts, placing the car with the 33rd fastest speed in the position of being "bumped" from the field by a faster qualifier, regardless of the day on which the original qualifier posted his/her time and speed.




http://i43.tinypic.com/29mrpk0.jpg

rh

[anthonyvop]

Have a nice day Tony, ck back with me at the end of the day and see if my explanation works out ;n) Actually if 33 were faster than Helio he would be bumped. How is that the One Million Problems (oops 999,999)I have with Indy, IRL, and Ovals coming, I so look forward to hearing about all your problems...

http://www.indy500.com

3. The starting field is made up of the 33 fastest qualifiers, regardless of the day on which a car has qualified. Cars are lined up according to their speed ranking on EACH DAY with the fastest qualifier on the first day occupying the MBNA Pole position. The successful second-day qualifiers line up behind the successful first day qualifiers in order of speed with the fastest qualifier of the second day always starting behind the slowest successful qualifier of the first day, regardless of overall speed, followed by the successful qualifiers of the third day, in order of speed, etc.
4. Once a total of 33 cars have qualified and the time allotted for qualifications has not run out, other cars may make qualification attempts, placing the car with the 33rd fastest speed in the position of being "bumped" from the field by a faster qualifier, regardless of the day on which the original qualifier posted his/her time and speed.


rh
I stand corrected that helio can be bumped from the field.

But I still don't like that you can set the fastest qualifying speed of the event but you won't be anywhere near the front row.

[SarahFan]

But I still don't like that you can set the fastest qualifying speed of the event but you won't be anywhere near the front row.

what if pole day is bitterly cold and windy.... and bump day is perfect...

seems fair to me....not only do 2nd day, 3rd day and bump day qualifiers benifit from more track time prior to there qualifying run.... they get the possibility of better weather and track conditions...of coarse that can be a double edged sword...

[Hoop-98]

I stand corrected that helio can be bumped from the field.

But I still don't like that you can set the fastest qualifying speed of the event but you won't be anywhere near the front row.

Kinda like in F1?

On Speed:

http://i41.tinypic.com/qs5wjk.jpg

[anthonyvop]

First off 4 days of qualifying is stupid.
Should be one day. Then again the whole Indy thing is way to long.

F1's qualifying is much more exciting The FASTEST cars from Q1 move to Q2. The FASTEST cars in Q2 move on to final qualifying where the FASTEST 10 start in that order.

[TURN3]

First off 4 days of qualifying is stupid.
Should be one day. Then again the whole Indy thing is way to long.

F1's qualifying is much more exciting The FASTEST cars from Q1 move to Q2. The FASTEST cars in Q2 move on to final qualifying where the FASTEST 10 start in that order.

Which is exactly how Indycar qualifies on a road course too. Indy is about tradition and history. While the format has changed over the years, it still goes back to the tradition ongoing for 100 years now. If somebody doesn't like it, then go watch F1. It isn't like they're without their own issues.

[drewdawg727]

Well what happens if someone who knows they might go for pole does not like the weather and track conditions for the race and doesn't qualify on the first day? Everyone would just qualify the next day anyway.

[jackmart]

why do the do the last qualifying in 2 days? I don't get that?

[Gluaistean]

First off 4 days of qualifying is stupid.
Should be one day. Then again the whole Indy thing is way to long.

F1's qualifying is much more exciting The FASTEST cars from Q1 move to Q2. The FASTEST cars in Q2 move on to final qualifying where the FASTEST 10 start in that order.

That is the answer. Years ago with the crowds it was worth it. Now, it's not the same. Boring and these cars going out two and three times is not a good testament to the ability of the engineering.

I was sorry to see Tagliani not make it. Glad to see Bruno get in though.

[anthonyvop]

Which is exactly how Indycar qualifies on a road course too. Indy is about tradition and history. While the format has changed over the years, it still goes back to the tradition ongoing for 100 years now. If somebody doesn't like it, then go watch F1. It isn't like they're without their own issues.

Yep F1 has issues.
Like tens of times more viewers. More Sponsors. More Spectators. More interest and more manufacturers.

Indy has.........Tradition.

How much you wanna bet that the powers that be at the IRL would gladly trade tradition for F1 numbers in a New York minute?

[Lee Roy]

First off 4 days of qualifying is stupid.
Should be one day. Then again the whole Indy thing is way to long.

F1's qualifying is much more exciting The FASTEST cars from Q1 move to Q2. The FASTEST cars in Q2 move on to final qualifying where the FASTEST 10 start in that order.

Who cares??? It's not like any of them are going to miss the race. They were already "qualified" before they left home.

[Wilf]

Yep F1 has issues.
Like tens of times more viewers. More Sponsors. More Spectators. More interest and more manufacturers.

Indy has.........Tradition.

How much you wanna bet that the powers that be at the IRL would gladly trade tradition for F1 numbers in a New York minute?

In a world market yes, the numbers are great. In the North American market it is a ripple. You can jump on the F1 band wagon all you want, but you can't go to a race on this continent.

F1's tradition of racing on this contenent is one of failure.

[Hoop-98]

kinda ot but does anyone know where a good TQ Midget forum is. I think the dirt kart scene is a lot better and I want to find a TQ forum so I can tell them how much I prefer the IKF/WKA dirt speedway series every day....

rh

[anthonyvop]

In a world market yes, the numbers are great. In the North American market it is a ripple. You can jump on the F1 band wagon all you want, but you can't go to a race on this continent.

F1's tradition of racing on this contenent is one of failure.
We live in a world wide marketplace.

The NBA knows it. The NFL knows it.

Many Indycar fans don't want to know it.

[TURN3]

We live in a world wide marketplace.

The NBA knows it. The NFL knows it.

Many Indycar fans don't want to know it.

You've taken this from a not liking Indy qualifying moment to an F1 vs IRL moment. Nobody here is going to argue F1 isn't the superior series. Bottom line...if you don't like the product then watch F1 and shut up about IRL. Do you buy Mobil 1 gasoline and then complain about Shell?