DTM coverage gone to sodding Sultana

[philipbain]

DTM has gone to Setanta Sports, which means along with GP2 most people that previously watched it will now not watch it. Motors TV now shows little of interest unless you are really keen on Motorcross or Aussie V8 Touring Cars (which are alright I guess, but no DTM). Go back 5 years and it was a very different story, Motors TV at it's height was crammed with loads of top quality live motorsport, now its the shadow of it's former self.

[Daniel]

So the DTM now sinks into obscurity in the UK

[Alfa Fan]

From where exactly Daniel? Setanta is more obscure than Motors TV?

[VkmSpouge]

Setanta is actually more high profile than Motors TV because of it's Premier League coverage.

[Daniel]

Yes but tonnes of people get Motors free.

[I am evil Homer]

Setanta is also in major financial trouble so it will probably move back when then channel folds.

[Chris2k6]

I remember sunday afternoons when i used to settle down infront of the TV with Motors TV on and watch the BTCC, DTM and the V8's! aswell as Le Mans and much more. Oh those were the days! I now hardly ever watch Motors TV

[philipbain]

I remember sunday afternoons when i used to settle down infront of the TV with Motors TV on and watch the BTCC, DTM and the V8's! aswell as Le Mans and much more. Oh those were the days! I now hardly ever watch Motors TV

Ditto, at one time I watched hours of motor racing on Motors TV every week, now I very rarely watch it.

[wedge]

Aussie V8 is way better than DTM. I take more interest in DTM because the European drivers and the cars are nothing but glorified prototype race. V8SC are proper tourers with quality drivers to boot.

[Allyc85]

I hate Setanta so much! Its bad enough having to pay for sky let alone more Setanta. nothing against the people that work for them but I really hope the company goes under!

[reidy_fan]

not into the footy so not paying for setanta, the only worthwhile stuff on motors tv is the scottish club racing and national legends. even so the coverage is usually about a month late but better than nowt

wish itv4 would get dtm

[BDunnell]

So the DTM now sinks into obscurity in the UK

The DTM has always been obscure in the UK because it's not a UK championship. I bet the viewing figures are tiny.

[Daniel]

The DTM has always been obscure in the UK because it's not a UK championship. I bet the viewing figures are tiny.
Sorry, I should have said further into obscurity :)

[BDunnell]

Sorry, I should have said further into obscurity :)

I don't think anyone would expect any series to be anything other than fairly obscure anywhere outside its own country, except amongst enthusiasts.

[steve_spackman]

Yes but tonnes of people get Motors free.

Is it available in the US at all?

[steve_spackman]

Setanta is also in major financial trouble so it will probably move back when then channel folds.

So my uncle maybe out of a job then..He does the football Commentry

[wedge]

The DTM has always been obscure in the UK because it's not a UK championship. I bet the viewing figures are tiny.

I'd wonder which is more popular with UK viewers/fans, WTCC or DTM? I reckon it would be WTCC.

[Abo]

any form of motor racing in the UK (apart from F1) is obscure, as far as the general public are concerned...

[AndyRAC]

any form of motor racing in the UK (apart from F1) is obscure, as far as the general public are concerned...

And the general media!! There's loads of great Motorsport - but it is ignored!

As for Setanta - I thought they were in money troubles - so how on earth have they got the DTM??

[BDunnell]

And the general media!! There's loads of great Motorsport - but it is ignored!

As for Setanta - I thought they were in money troubles - so how on earth have they got the DTM??

Probably because the rights outside Germany cost bugger all.

[UltimateDanGTR]

i hope setanta go under so we can have our proper motorsports back! aswell as england away games and the FA Cup! (that isnt on ITV) DTM is another huge loss for Motors TV (Motorcycles TV innit?) but at least they have Aussie V8s-which are cool and have better racing than DTM. and at least setanta have not yet got the travesty of having Nascar and Indycar, if they go from sky i will be distraut. hopefully sultana wont ever take interest in americaland motor racing.

Die sultana! (thats die as in death-not die as in a reference to german word for the, linking with dtm ;) )

[dcr22B]

Gents, the V8s have already gone to a deferred 1 week delay on Motors TV as they are feeling the pinch of the current global economic crisis.

[christophulus]

V8, Indycar, Nascar and some random other events (no DTM though) are shown overnight on channel 5 in the UK. At least the BTCC is still on ITV4 - not great but better than not having it at all!

[AndySpeed]

V8, Indycar, Nascar and some random other events (no DTM though) are shown overnight on channel 5 in the UK. At least the BTCC is still on ITV4 - not great but better than not having it at all!

I unexpectedly caught some A1GP recently!

[woody2goody]

I like Setanta and I honestly feel they'll be ok with all the extra coverage for this year.

they're getting the UEFA Cup (I'm still gonna call it that) as well.

I've never really been able to watch the DTM properly so now I'll be able to :) I've always followed it but never watched the races.

Eurosport has pretty good motorsport coverage.

[philipbain]

I'd wonder which is more popular with UK viewers/fans, WTCC or DTM? I reckon it would be WTCC.

Aye, I reckon WTCC because of the fact that Teenage Sensation Andy Prixaulx won it 4 times in a row (yes yes yes, I know it was technically only 3 WTCC titles but I always count the last ETCC title was it is the same series rebadged). I am aware that Andy is a man in his 30s now but I always use the "teenage sensation" tag as thats how he was described back at the start of his hillclimbing days!

[Eurotech]

a bit off subject but was it me or did ITV4 have FIAGT until the Spa 24hrs last year?

[philipbain]

a bit off subject but was it me or did ITV4 have FIAGT until the Spa 24hrs last year?

I do remember them having GT coverage, for at least one race then everything went quiet and it soon disappeared, a shame as if they stuck with it and promoted it properly I think they could have got a reasonable audience from it.

[Chris2k6]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8090633.stm

looks like Stetanta really are in trouble, losing £100m a year! ouch!

[UltimateDanGTR]

I hope setanta go under. I dont have it and dont want them taking more sports from other channels-I refuse to pay for bleeding sultana. hopefully DTM will return soon to a proper channel.

[wedge]

I do remember them having GT coverage, for at least one race then everything went quiet and it soon disappeared, a shame as if they stuck with it and promoted it properly I think they could have got a reasonable audience from it.

They showed something like half the season till SRO pulled the can because ITV promised live coverage which they couldn't fully commit via tape delay due to BTCC and F1 clashing.

It's now on MotorsTV.

DTM will probably be back there as well though fingers crossed Steve Rider will work his magic again with ITV bigwigs.

[dcr22B]

It's now on MotorsTV.

Nope, Setanta. FIA GT3 and GT4 are on Motors.

[thetrooper_uk]

Setanta don't even have enough customers to break even at the moment and no one is pushing their advert now either so I reckon it's curtains for Setanta. They just got greedy and tried to expand to quickly by splitting what they have into 5 channels when it doesn't even fill 1 channel properly.

[PDS]

Setanda have officialy GONE!

[tintin]

They showed something like half the season till SRO pulled the can because ITV promised live coverage which they couldn't fully commit via tape delay due to BTCC and F1 clashing.


Other way round. ITV dropped it because the organisers failed to move the start times of races to avoid clashes with F1, as they had agreed.

Even delayed on ITV4 it was getting 8 times as many viewers as it did on Motors.

[philipbain]

Setanda have officialy GONE!

Now we just have to wait for the coverage of GP2 and DTM to get sorted and shown somewhere where people will actually watch it, a decent web stream would do in all honesty.

[JTK]

Now we just have to wait for the coverage of GP2 and DTM to get sorted and shown somewhere where people will actually watch it, a decent web stream would do in all honesty.

Eurosport have GP2 for rest of this season and for 2010 and 2011. Understand from another forum that next DTM race on Sky, and talks are on-going with another broadcaster (not mentioned who) for future coverage

[Allyc85]

Was great to see GP2 on eurosport at the weekend, even if the officials did have to spoil the sprint race...

Looking forward to seeing the DTM now when thats sorted out :)

[christophulus]

Sky confirm DTM highlights:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77118

[UltimateDanGTR]

Eurosport have GP2 for rest of this season and for 2010 and 2011. Understand from another forum that next DTM race on Sky, and talks are on-going with another broadcaster (not mentioned who) for future coverage

YYYESSSSSSSSSSS! Jackpot!

as you can see, seeing the return of DTM and GP2 has pleased me very much. No more Sultana!


Sky Confirms DTM Highlights

Perfect. I can now watch DTM, rather than following it on Wikipedia! I can now properly support Paffet instead of reading about his results and going 'yay' or 'oh no' :)

[philipbain]

Its good to see that both GP2 and DTM have got TV deals sorted following the demise of Sultana Sports, hopefully DTM will sort a live coverage deal too, will have to manage with mid week highlights after races, infact DTM highlights start this evening at 11pm on Sky Sports 3, pitty they haven't got HD coverage but thats me just being picky!

[thetrooper_uk]

I want the DTM on a freeview channel as I'm not a sky customer and won't ever be one as it's a rip off.

[philipbain]

I want the DTM on a freeview channel as I'm not a sky customer and won't ever be one as it's a rip off.

I would like a gold plated Rolls Royce to be given to me but unfortunately that aint going to happen! In all seriousness it would seem that TV in the future is likely to become more subscription based as TV advertising is basically dead in the face of the internet and digital recording (Sky+, Virgin Sky+ rip-off thingy whatever its called, Freeview recorders etc.). Freeview is starting to get overstretched as when more channels are offered the audience dilutes and the value of advertising on a certain channel decreases.

[philipbain]

I just saw an ad for ESPN where they said that they had DTM Coverage, so I presume this is the live coverage and Sky Sports will retain the delayed coverage on the Wednesday after the race.

[Robinho]

and ESPN also has an HD channel, and its all free on Virgin XL (and i get my HD box in a couple of weeks) also get the Sultana's Premier league matches