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MDS
29th April 2009, 17:48
As part of the deal with APEX there will likely be a race in Brazil sometime next season, probably in March. Supposedly three cities are lobbying for the race.

Autodromo Internacional Nelson Piquet in Brazilia. Not to be confused with the Piquet circuit in Rio that hosted CART for several years. This is the constantly undertilized, if not uninspired, track that hosted a non-points F-1 race in the 70s.

Autódromo Internacional de Tarumã in Viamao. This is my favorite, its almost a two mile track and its wickly fast with banked turns and dramatic elevation changes. Even those in the "Oval Only" crowd should like this track, it's unlike anything you've ever seen.

Autodromo de Goinia: Lee Van Dam, the promotor of Champ Car's races at Zolder and Assen was working with officials in Goinia to bring Champ car to Goinia, and they lobbied hard for A1GP too. It's a flat track and its laid out so most of stands can see all of the track.

I know there is a lot of opposition to going outside the U.S. for races, but the IRL needs successful, iconic events on tracks where they're not overshadowed by NASCAR, and right now there aren't that many on the schedule. Yes I want to see Michigan, California, Pheonix, New Hampshire and Pikes Peak back on the schedule, but I don't know how likely that is to ever happen, and a Brazil event has all the ingredients to be succesful.

There is a big sponsor with buy in willing to pay the bills in Apex. Lee Van Dam put on two successful Champ Car events in Europe, so at least one promoter has a strong track record. There is buy in from the local government and the tracks are established facilities.

Some of the IRL's biggest stars are Brazilian, Tony Kannan, Helio Castroneves, as well as Vitor Meira and Mario Moreas. Bruno Junqueria and Jamie Camara are both searching for rides and Mario Romancini is showing some poise in Indy Lights. Also, given how Nelson Piquet Jr is driving this year, there is a chance he could end up in the IRL in 2010. Having drivers from neighboring countries like E.J. Viso also provides a nice bit of rivalry for the crowd as well.

Add a Copa NEXTEL Stock race as a supporting event you might get some former F-1 drivers like Richardo Zonta, Antonio Pizzonia, and Enrique Bernoldi get one off rides, and a strong Saturday show, which is lacking from almost every IRL weekend.

Factor in the lack of warm-weather venues from which to start your season from. The fact its in the same time zone as America. And that we have events in America that Americans aren't willing to pay for, and I think a March Brazil race makes a ton of sense.

BoilerIMS
29th April 2009, 18:41
Forgive my laziness.... can you point us to any links with track maps or photos? I'm intrigued about the Viamao circuit.

Dr. Krogshöj
29th April 2009, 19:14
Forgive my laziness.... can you point us to any links with track maps or photos? I'm intrigued about the Viamao circuit.


Brasilia: http://blogf1.co.uk/images/circuits/South%20America/Autodromo%20Internacional%20Nelson%20Piquet.jpg

Viamao: http://blogf1.co.uk/images/circuits/South%20America/Autodromo%20de%20Taruma.jpg

Goiana: http://blogf1.co.uk/images/circuits/South%20America/Autodromo%20de%20Goiania.jpg

Chamoo
30th April 2009, 05:51
Brasilia: http://blogf1.co.uk/images/circuits/South%20America/Autodromo%20Internacional%20Nelson%20Piquet.jpg

Viamao: http://blogf1.co.uk/images/circuits/South%20America/Autodromo%20de%20Taruma.jpg

Goiana: http://blogf1.co.uk/images/circuits/South%20America/Autodromo%20de%20Goiania.jpg

It says I don't have permission to run see these.

Chamoo
30th April 2009, 05:51
I am all for going to Brazil, however, as long as it is not the first or second race of the season, I'm down. I think we need the first two races in N.A. to make sure we get the season and momentum going strong before heading out of the USA.

Spiderman
30th April 2009, 08:12
Go to Interlagos. It's one of the world's most exiciting race track!

MDS
30th April 2009, 12:40
Autodromo Internacional Nelson Piquet
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Cue-sFLOuGs/SCuIS9W-fBI/AAAAAAAAAXw/E4BUk40PGiE/s400/autodromo2.jpg

Autodromo de Goiania

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/252/11485859.jpg

Autódromo Internacional de Curitiba

http://www.superpole.com.br/galeria/aut_curitiba.jpg

MDS
30th April 2009, 13:14
I know I originally said Taruma was was lobbying, but I have to think that third city is Curitba, as Taruma is largely a club track and Curitiba is a major city.

All three cities have a reason to want the race Gaiana is big into agriculture, of which growing sugar cane is big there. Curitiba is an up and coming city and has a lot of major corporations based there. Brazilia is the capitol, yet is overshadowed by Sao Pao and Rio, and is also the home of Apex.

They all have their advantages, Curitiba is in the middle of a suburbs and has a large collection of international companies. The Brazilia track is actually inside the city core and could be run as an "Oval," although Curitiba and Goiania would probably work tool The Goiania track is the farthest out from the city of any of the tracks, but its supposed to be easier to stage an international race their because infrastructure issues and the fact the local government really wants to up their profile.

Either way, it would a good race for the beginning of the season, or possibly late in the year to fill some of the gaps there.

Chamoo
1st May 2009, 06:25
I like the idea of going to Brazil. It helps grow the market we can be drawing from for sponsorship. And with the amount of Brazilian drivers in the series, I think we have plenty of platforms for the Brazilian companies to step up to if they do end up being interested with a race in their home country.

Dr. Krogshöj
1st May 2009, 09:22
I know I originally said Taruma was was lobbying, but I have to think that third city is Curitba, as Taruma is largely a club track and Curitiba is a major city.

All three cities have a reason to want the race Gaiana is big into agriculture, of which growing sugar cane is big there. Curitiba is an up and coming city and has a lot of major corporations based there. Brazilia is the capitol, yet is overshadowed by Sao Pao and Rio, and is also the home of Apex.

They all have their advantages, Curitiba is in the middle of a suburbs and has a large collection of international companies. The Brazilia track is actually inside the city core and could be run as an "Oval," although Curitiba and Goiania would probably work tool The Goiania track is the farthest out from the city of any of the tracks, but its supposed to be easier to stage an international race their because infrastructure issues and the fact the local government really wants to up their profile.

Either way, it would a good race for the beginning of the season, or possibly late in the year to fill some of the gaps there.

I made a picture search on Taruma and I understand it would require a big investment to bring that track up to IndyCar safety standards. However, the layout looks really exciting and it's wicked fast. Banked sweeping turns and elevation changes. Plus, Viamao is situated in the Porto Alegre metropolitan region which is the 4th largest in Brazil, much bigger than Goiana, Curitiba or Brasília.

Mark in Oshawa
3rd May 2009, 04:14
I am all for them going to Brazil for some late summer sun. Of course, it is ironic that the series if it goes there is the same series supported and run by people who mocked the efforts of CART to go world wide. I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored once again....

Chamoo
4th May 2009, 06:35
I am all for them going to Brazil for some late summer sun. Of course, it is ironic that the series if it goes there is the same series supported and run by people who mocked the efforts of CART to go world wide. I guess it depends on whose ox is being gored once again....

Well, the Vision has changed the last couple of years so it's alright. Going international seems to go hand in hand with road and street circuits as well.

MDS
4th May 2009, 12:34
I think Brazilia would make a really interesting five corner oval, especially with the Indy aero package. Having near at the beginning of the season would be a good run-in for the 500.