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pettersolberg29
24th May 2009, 12:00
What about a 10 secs penalty.
Better be at least 15 secs - Petter needs a podium!!
bluuford
24th May 2009, 12:01
Jeppiii Group N beat S2000 again! by 1.5 sek. cannot be better final. congrats. to Nasser!
Sulland
24th May 2009, 12:02
Sandell lost with 1.5 !
F1boat
24th May 2009, 12:02
FINALLY! Well done for Latvala!
bluuford
24th May 2009, 12:04
Now another finale.. 6.6 sek advatage for prokop before the stage:-) And current situation says that the difference is 8.8 currently :-)
Mirek
24th May 2009, 12:04
Araujo 29, Sandell 28, Nasser 21 points now
Wim_Impreza
24th May 2009, 12:06
Well done Latvala and Al-Attiyah. Great indeed to see Group N beat S2000.
I saw the video of Loeb / Elena and they must be disqualified, just as many others in the past.
bluuford
24th May 2009, 12:07
]Araujo 29, Sandell 28, Nasser 21 points now
No, it was before (you forgot to add 10 points for Nasser), now it is:
Nasser 31 points
Araujo 29 points
Sandell 28 points
]So, Nasser wins PWRC by 1,5 seconds.
how can this be???
sandell had problems? impreza n14 was always said to be crap...and now nasser beats "unbeatable" S2000 in fair fight!! congratulations for that!
well done and deserved win!
Mirek
24th May 2009, 12:08
And Prokop made it after all those problems and penalties it's well deserved I think :)
Wim_Impreza
24th May 2009, 12:09
how can this be???
sandell had problems? impreza n14 was always said to be crap...and now nasser beats "unbeatable" S2000 in fair fight!! congratulations for that!
well done and deserved win!
Normally, Al-Attiyah is a better driver than Sandell. The Swedish driver has impressed me only once, in New Zealand 2008.
Mirek
24th May 2009, 12:11
No, it was before (you forgot to add 10 points for Nasser), now it is:
Nasser 31 points
Araujo 29 points
Sandell 28 points
Sorry, I'm wrong again... I somewhere lost Argentina for Nasser :)
bluuford
24th May 2009, 12:13
]And Prokop made it after all those problems and penalties it's well deserved I think :)
I would say he made the rally interesting for spectators:-) And for himself as well. Now he has one rally more than our Polish junior and they both have 2 wins and at least 1 second place. Great! Congratulation to Prokop!
Mirek
24th May 2009, 12:14
JWRC (hope good now)
Kosciuszko 36, Burkart 30, Prokop 28
bluuford
24th May 2009, 12:20
Huh.. what a rally :-) It cannot be much better end that it was right now.. after every five minutes you have to concentrate to another fight! And no major offs.
really good performance by Novikov, Latvala, Attyah, Nikkara, Prokop, Solberg and Östberg. now it is time to go to sleep :-)
Mauri A
24th May 2009, 12:23
Huh.. what a rally :-) It cannot be much better end that it was right now.. after every five minutes you have to concentrate to another fight! And no major offs.
really good performance by Novikov, Latvala, Attyah, Nikkara, Prokop, Solberg and Östberg. now it is time to go to sleep :-)
No time for sleeping, I´ll wait for another 1-2 for Finns in Monaco!
pettersolberg29
24th May 2009, 12:26
I'll be looking for a good win for Heidfeld...from 16th...in Monaco...where overtaking is impossible. Good luck...!
tolis
24th May 2009, 12:48
Loeb is 4th....
bluuford
24th May 2009, 12:55
Yes, he got 2 minutes penalty. He lost the place he gained as a result of breaking rules. In that way it is fair. On the other way, brave stewards:-)
pettersolberg29
24th May 2009, 13:00
Get in there! I'm pleased to say I'm wrong.
Helstar
24th May 2009, 13:11
Listen Day two press conference for team managers and listen what Pirelli guy is saying.
They didn't show on TV, weird.
Anyway, surprise penalty for Loeb ... I wouldn't never bet on that.
AndyRAC
24th May 2009, 13:25
Well a surprising result all round.
Well done to J-M - even if I still feel it was a pyrrhic victory for Ford - they can only win when everything falls for them. I suspect the Acropolis will see the same 'tactics' and issues.
Loeb gets a penalty - blimey - what's going on??
Onr final thought- Why have we got a WRC event and a F1 race on the same weekend?
Rallyper
24th May 2009, 13:30
Petter and Phil took off their belts early several times last year e.g. when his car caught fire in Argentina (I think it was Argentina)
Well, maybe bending the rules a bit than being burned up.... :D
AndyRAC
24th May 2009, 13:33
I wonder if the state of the Championship influenced the penalty? It could drag it out a bit further.........
Personally, the quicker it's over the better!
BDunnell
24th May 2009, 13:37
Was there a rally on this weekend?
N.O.T
24th May 2009, 13:37
Nice result for latvala and a boost in his confidence for sure....
The Penalty to Loeb was justified so its ok.
awake27
24th May 2009, 13:40
http://www.rallyitaliasardegna.com/2009/pdf/stewards_07.pdf
The stewards decision for the 2 minutes penalty.
AndyRAC
24th May 2009, 13:47
Was there a rally on this weekend?
It's a right and proper question - why clash with bigger events? Monaco, Indy, Nurburgring!!
I haven't seen anything about Sardinia in the papers.
bluuford
24th May 2009, 14:16
yeah.. after reading the decision I should say that it was the best Stewart decision in motor sport in last couple of years. Cannot be better. Taking of the seat belts gave them some seconds and probably podium place. Now they got the penalty and they lost what they gained and some additional time (the penalty should always be little bit bigger than actual win by breaking the rules).
Mauri A
24th May 2009, 14:27
yeah.. after reading the decision I should say that it was the best Stewart decision in motor sport in last couple of years. Cannot be better. Taking of the seat belts gave them some seconds and probably podium place. Now they got the penalty and they lost what they gained and some additional time (the penalty should always be little bit bigger than actual win by breaking the rules).
Disagree! Remember Hänninen´s pants, one driver´s glove missing which both leaded to disqualifation.
Ridiculous!
Sulland
24th May 2009, 15:00
How much freedom do the stewards have in cases like this ?
Is it written down what they can do in cases like this, or is it totally up to them ?
DonJippo
24th May 2009, 15:05
How much freedom do the stewards have in cases like this ?
Is it written down what they can do in cases like this, or is it totally up to them ?
Too much and it's up to the stewards of the meeting to make decisions, no guidance other than FIA rules.
DonJippo
24th May 2009, 15:09
Disagree! Remember Hänninen´s pants, one driver´s glove missing which both leaded to disqualifation.
Ridiculous!
Bigger names have different rules it seems, it's a pity because in reality this penalty is quite fair but then you have cases when people get harsher penalties for less....
N.O.T
24th May 2009, 15:09
same as the mudflaps missing from solbergs car in acropolis some years back...the stewards gave 50 sec penlaty.
PSD Nikara 7th overall on SS13.
That has been some impressive driving, Faster than many WRC-cars and hugely faster than anyone else in Gr.N machine...
He had a good rally overall, only second WRC-rally outside Finland and 3rd PWRC... Not bad. Too bad he is not entered in PWRC championship and will not get the points.
If any penalty is applied to seb I'll eat sh*t for a week.......................
You have an unpleasant week ahead of you
Salist
24th May 2009, 16:42
Photos from 2nd leg (watersplash) HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=520&au=0)
Jafry
Very nice pictures, thanks!!!
Helstar
24th May 2009, 17:31
You have an unpleasant week ahead of you
lol ... xD quite.
Well it seems that consecutive rally wins record won't change ... maybe next year :p !
Regarding the penalty I think it was justified as the tv and radio reporters all said the changing of the punctured tyre was done in record time, when I saw that Elena was holding the jack and the wheel gun before they stopped it was obvious that he was not belted up when Loeb was driving and managed to retreive the tools from where they are stowed in the car. Also it is some kind of justice as had they waited the time loss would have been more than what they lost, maybe even less than the penalty, but it should teach crews a lesson that rules are there for all, not only for some amatuer crews.
Wim_Impreza
24th May 2009, 18:02
Very strange that Loeb is not disqualified. All the others in the past had were excluded for the same thing.
Finally, some Interest about the finish top-3! ;)
I'm glad Petter's got another podium place...
Come on, guys. Stop giving stupid examples and talking complete bull concerning Seb's seatbelt case. Harnesses are the MOST IMPORTANT safety feature for crew members, installed in rally cars. I may say, even more important in real life not in a rally car.
Only problem I have with the wrc steward penalty is they are not consistence enough. Comparing to the 5minutes penalty given to ford in 2007 for the windshield, in this case I think it's too little, not too much.
I wonder if the state of the Championship influenced the penalty? It could drag it out a bit further......... The WRC stewards would not do something on purpose to give unfair advantage to the Ford team. The championship is already over, Citroen won the manu and Loeb won the title. Unless Loeb is going to crash and retired 3 times, and that is not going to happen.
ste898
24th May 2009, 18:35
Fantastic result for JML and Ford!!!
Excellent to see that the stewarts had the balls to give Loeb the penalty.....shame it was'nt more!!!
or take into consideration Sordo at 2006 Japan when he got excluded for seat belt infraction.
Ok, I haven't seen the video of Loeb and it's probably not the same.
bluuford
24th May 2009, 18:55
or take into consideration Sordo at 2006 Japan when he got excluded for seat belt infraction.
Ok, I haven't seen the video of Loeb and it's probably not the same.
Yeah.. Sordo drove until the end of stage without seat belts (in Japan). This time Loeb drive some way without seat belts. Watch this Video: http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=14589
here you can see that Elena is quite a long time before stopping without seat belts.
I am happy that WRC is not F1 and most of penalties are given just a few time after incident:-) For me.. Elena had really bad weekend, he made two mistakes and he got penalized for both. Case closed. Loeb drove very bad rally, used very questionable tactics.. Dont know why.. possibility that it works was nearly 0, then went off, hit the tree, punctured his tire etc. And he got 4th place that he desrved for this kind of driving.. case closed.
The best rally in 2009.. so far.. in terms of competition
Honza H.
24th May 2009, 19:17
The best rally in 2009.. so far.. in terms of competition
I totally agree, in terms of WORLD Rally Championship, best event so far this year: close fights not only in the WRC but in the PWRC and JWRC categories as well!
AndyRAC
24th May 2009, 19:27
I totally agree, in terms of WORLD Rally Championship, best event so far this year: close fights not only in the WRC but in the PWRC and JWRC categories as well!
Having watched the Highlights, I would disagree, I thought it was a bit of a farce. Loeb stopping for 23 secs just before the Flying Finish, Hirvonen not stoping long enough - this isn't what Rallying is about. It just looks amateurish.
Bring back Rally San Remo for Italy.
80% of the respondents to the poll on WRC.com think the 2minute penalty was undeserved :eek:
Psycho!
24th May 2009, 19:54
Well done for Ford!!At last they broke Loeb's winning streak....!!!Even I would like Mikko to be first...Nevertheless,I will be waiting for that in three weeks time here,in Greece!!!
Honza H.
24th May 2009, 19:55
Having watched the Highlights, I would disagree, I thought it was a bit of a farce. Loeb stopping for 23 secs just before the Flying Finish, Hirvonen not stoping long enough - this isn't what Rallying is about. It just looks amateurish.
Bring back Rally San Remo for Italy.
Of course, it´s been far from the best world rally of all times but still, in the "kingdom of the blind world rallys" this year, we´ve seen a slight improvement. So let´s consider Sardinia 09 for the one-eyed king :)
I prefer San Remo in the IRC Series rather than being spoiled in the WRC.
J4MIE
24th May 2009, 21:31
Been away all weekend, just came back and watched the highlights on wrc.com, and he says "it was a competition to see who could slow down the most".
Makes me very angry about it all, what was wrong with top 15 reversed? Or why not have a couple of demonstration cars or something to clean the surface a bit, it's just utterly rediculous at the moment :(
ste898
24th May 2009, 21:33
80% of the respondents to the poll on WRC.com think the 2minute penalty was undeserved :eek:
My god that just shows me something!!!
But I would get banned if I wrote what I thought of the 80% on here!!!!
bluuford
24th May 2009, 21:37
So, and Citroen earned another point by retiring Conrad in last service! So -1 to C-juniors and +1 to C-total. So, Ford took 10 points back in manufacurers fight.
Been away all weekend, just came back and watched the highlights on wrc.com, and he says "it was a competition to see who could slow down the most".
Makes me very angry about it all, what was wrong with top 15 reversed? Or why not have a couple of demonstration cars or something to clean the surface a bit, it's just utterly rediculous at the moment :(
Agree. Until the rules change, every WRC gravel rally will just be playing silly games for 2 days and then maybe a fight on day 3 if we're lucky. It would be nice to see an event where the drivers are fighting on genuine pace. Wilson wants these rules to stay though, I guess he is scared of his boys having to really fight for a win.
DonJippo
24th May 2009, 22:26
Agree. Until the rules change, every WRC gravel rally will just be playing silly games for 2 days and then maybe a fight on day 3 if we're lucky. It would be nice to see an event where the drivers are fighting on genuine pace. Wilson wants these rules to stay though, I guess he is scared of his boys having to really fight for a win.
I didn't notice JML using any tactics, other than driving flat out...
ste898
24th May 2009, 22:53
I didn't notice JML using any tactics, other than driving flat out...
Yeh thats the rally I was watching too.........
N.O.T
24th May 2009, 23:27
Very strange that Loeb is not disqualified. All the others in the past had were excluded for the same thing.
really ???? remeber mills trying to put solbergs wheel in place with a screwdriver ???? was he excluded ??? NO (he had to unfasten his seatbelts during the ss without even stopping)
Was gardemeister excluded in NZ after a roll his co-driver was without seatbelt for some time and Garde was wheling at him......
stop being such a fanatic about the best driver the WRC has showed in quite some time
bowler
25th May 2009, 00:06
The Loeb penalty is consistent with previous incidents given the circumstances involved.
I do not think it fair to suggest that the stewards were influenced in any way by Loeb's position
Does anybody know what the betting odds for a Latvala victory was?
I have used to record the odds before a rally (for fun), but lately it has been rather boring, since Loeb always wins and gives a odds of 1.05 or so...
Karukera
25th May 2009, 06:58
A farce at its best.
Surreal as well.
When they were doing their noisy tactics, Latvala was simply running his own rally in a different dimension and got the best possible outcome for him and his team. Refreshing and a major boost for him.
Hyvä JML ! :)
First points for Novikov, promissing and glad Petter put again Ol' Mama Xsara on a podium, great drive.
Psycho!
25th May 2009, 07:01
So, and Citroen earned another point by retiring Conrad in last service! So -1 to C-juniors and +1 to C-total. So, Ford took 10 points back in manufacurers fight.
Just imagine what some guys here would say if Fords changed positions...This weekend Citroen made me hate them even more..... :mad:
bluuford
25th May 2009, 07:18
That means you love the sport..
Love is almost the same as hating, but not so dangerous :-P
OK JML! Now you are only driver who can beat Loeb´s record, that means win 7 rallies in a row :-) You can do it! and if you can do it then you will be 2009 World Champion! 6 rallies to go and 36 points down from Loeb! That means Loeb has to retire twice and get third place 4 times :-)
Daniel
25th May 2009, 07:25
I agre with Ste, you can't compromise on safety and expect to not be penalised. 80% of the people on that poll are fools. Good victory for Ford and JML :up:
Jafry
25th May 2009, 07:32
Photos from 3rd leg HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=520&au=0)
Comal
25th May 2009, 07:34
I think we need to look to the FIA etc for making our sport a farce, NOT the teams. The teams just do what they need to do to win.
A couple of things of note, if they are going to use the incar cameras to dish out these sort of penalties, just wait for the cameras to get 'damaged'/switched off etc.
Who else here that competes can hold their hand on their heart and say they have never done something similar to Loeb/Elena - it was a straight piece of tarmac road and they were slowing down for goodness sake! Do you have to wait till they speedo says 0km/hr exactly now before loosening belt?
Where are the penalties for those that stop for a puncture and do not put out the safety warning triangle as per FIA Regs 42.4 if we are going to be silly about policing the rules.
Just some thoughts
Daniel
25th May 2009, 07:35
Seb broke the rules, simple as.
urabus-denoS2000
25th May 2009, 08:30
I don't like Ford WRT (not Ford as a manufacter) but I admit a great drive from JML,no tactics at all and that's rare in these times :D
And as Daniel said,Seb made a mistake and that's it.FIA is very strict with safety rules and they should be
Alpha
25th May 2009, 08:45
Loeb got a fitting penalty for what they did. He came powersliding onto tarmac with Elena sitting unsecured in his seat, with the wheelgun and jack on his lap. The seatbelts wasn't even on his shoulders so he had been moving around in the car (probably to get the tools) while Loeb was still driving at higher speeds. Elena even opened the door and leaned out before Seb hit the brakes and came to a stop. Penalty? Hell yes.
On a sidenote, a Norwegian radiochannel (P4) reported today that Ford had been all over Petter this sunday. They didn't go into specifics but gave the impression that they wanted to see Petter in a Focus soon. Anyone else heard anything about that?
On a sidenote, a Norwegian radiochannel (P4) reported today that Ford had been all over Petter this sunday. They didn't go into specifics but gave the impression that they wanted to see Petter in a Focus soon. Anyone else heard anything about that?
That was about time..!
A.F.F.
25th May 2009, 09:35
Congrats to Latvala and Anttila. Guess I was wrong afterall.
However, doesn't change the fact how poor this rally was. A farce frankly :mark: FIA should rechange the rules rabido if they want even few fans for WRC. These tactics with starting order are ridicilous. I have absolutely no interest for rallying now :down:
bluuford
25th May 2009, 09:40
I agre with Ste, you can't compromise on safety and expect to not be penalised. 80% of the people on that poll are fools. Good victory for Ford and JML :up:
The question in WRC.com is very badly asked anyway. It is not correct to ask question with two meanings while you can answer yes/no.
"Did Loeb and Elena deserve their two minute penalty in Sardinia?"
I can see two meanings here:
1. Did they deserved that two minutes or not.
2. Did they deserved that two minutes or was it too small penalty for them.
If you are not agree with too minutes and you think that it was too much, you say "No" for the first question
If you think that they deserved more than 2 minutes then your answer to the second question is "no"
Conclusion: never ask questions like that with yes7no answers.
Congrats to Latvala and Anttila. Guess I was wrong afterall.
However, doesn't change the fact how poor this rally was. A farce frankly :mark: FIA should rechange the rules rabido if they want even few fans for WRC. These tactics with starting order are ridicilous. I have absolutely no interest for rallying now :down:
Than is better to see the 1st classified being 14th on the road.
urabus-denoS2000
25th May 2009, 10:05
I have absolutely no interest for rallying now :down:
I always say that I have absolutely no interest in the WRC until tarmac (unfortunately only Spain this year),but I have a lot of interest in rallying ;)
bowler
25th May 2009, 10:25
Congrats to Latvala and Anttila. Guess I was wrong afterall.
These tactics with starting order are ridicilous.
In this rally? What tactics?
JML drove from 7th on day 1, and was leading after day 1.
On day 2 he started first, and was leading after day 2.
On day 3 he started first and was leading at the finish.
There have been tactics in other Rallies for sure, but in this one? I don't think so.
urabus-denoS2000
25th May 2009, 10:31
I think A.F.F. reffered to Seb's and Mikko's tactics ;)
On a sidenote, a Norwegian radiochannel (P4) reported today that Ford had been all over Petter this sunday. They didn't go into specifics but gave the impression that they wanted to see Petter in a Focus soon. Anyone else heard anything about that?
Don't think that would happen, unless it's a full works car.
Xsara Fan
25th May 2009, 11:31
On a sidenote, a Norwegian radiochannel (P4) reported today that Ford had been all over Petter this sunday. They didn't go into specifics but gave the impression that they wanted to see Petter in a Focus soon. Anyone else heard anything about that?
Ford trying to make a trouble for Citroen. Malcolm Wilson in every rally ask Novikov to sign a contract with Ford! :)
bluuford
25th May 2009, 12:14
Ford trying to make a trouble for Citroen. Malcolm Wilson in every rally ask Novikov to sign a contract with Ford! :)
Malcolm is trying to earn more money of course:-) Aava´s place is free until he finds some money. And Ford must be interested as well, because Russia is one of the most important markets in Europe for Ford (At least was before the current economical downturn).
And maybe Malcolm is afraid of the fact that in one day when they are nearly at the same level of points, Citroen puts Solberg in C4 for gravel :-)
DonJippo
25th May 2009, 13:07
Just imagine what some guys here would say if Fords changed positions...This weekend Citroen made me hate them even more..... :mad:
Not only change positions but to make driver from other team to retire in favor of manu team ... :rolleyes:
Hartusvuori
25th May 2009, 13:10
On Finnish News Agengy STT's Sunday story on Rally Sardegna, Latvala's co-pilot Miikka Anttila said they timed a wheel change on Saturday evening and got 1'21". According to Miikka they had seat belts fastened tight before they started and seat belts fastened tight when they finished. Their record is 1'08" but that was indoors.
AndyRAC
25th May 2009, 13:18
Congrats to Latvala and Anttila. Guess I was wrong afterall.
However, doesn't change the fact how poor this rally was. A farce frankly :mark: FIA should rechange the rules rabido if they want even few fans for WRC. These tactics with starting order are ridicilous. I have absolutely no interest for rallying now :down:
I'm inclined to agree. Drivers slowing down at the end of a stage just looks ridiculous. Why punish successful drivers? What is wrong with letting the Championship leader choose his road position. No system is perfect, but the current system is a joke - no wonder Malcolm Wilson likes it.
pettersolberg29
25th May 2009, 15:09
Does anyoneknow if the full press conference at the end of day 3 is availible anywhere? The one on wrc.com is only about 3 mins long.
kakus
25th May 2009, 15:51
Does anyoneknow if the full press conference at the end of day 3 is availible anywhere? The one on wrc.com is only about 3 mins long.
http://www.crash.net/World+Rally/Feature/147355/1/sardinia__post-event_press_conference.html
A.F.F.
25th May 2009, 22:23
I think A.F.F. reffered to Seb's and Mikko's tactics ;)
:up:
A.F.F.
25th May 2009, 22:25
I'm inclined to agree. Drivers slowing down at the end of a stage just looks ridiculous. Why punish successful drivers? What is wrong with letting the Championship leader choose his road position. No system is perfect, but the current system is a joke - no wonder Malcolm Wilson likes it.
IMO the previous system was good enough. On gravel weaker teams had their chances on the first day. Every day was flat out.
Now, we see two days of cat & mouse and half a day of rallying. Which in this particular case was doomed due the dust. Ridicilous.
pettersolberg29
25th May 2009, 22:28
Why was the original order from 15th to 1st then 16th onwards ever stopped? Was a reason ever given 'cos to me that seems the best system.
Mirek
26th May 2009, 13:26
Some more photos from Sardinia including Ostberg with lost wheel, Prokop after hitting a tree or a crisis of Al Quassimmi: http://www.ludotcifer.com/fotky/sardinia09/index.htm
CABAIO E'LONA
26th May 2009, 14:54
[quote="tommeke_B"]My photos of the Rally d'Italia Sardegna are online on www.rally-image.be (http://www.rally-image.be/)
[quote]
nice photos, thanks!
bluuford
26th May 2009, 15:00
Why was the original order from 15th to 1st then 16th onwards ever stopped? Was a reason ever given 'cos to me that seems the best system.
The reason was actually quite good. After the first day the following pack just disappeared to light years distance. When better drivers and cars have better road-position then their time caps with those who have bit weaker cars, less experienced drivers and will be first on the road were so much slower. For example. Without that rule Solberg might just have been dreaming about third place. The time caps will be so big that even with puncture you wont loose any position.
I like that system. With current low number of starters it is the only thing that keeps the time caps closer. In case anything should happen then we can see some position change at least not only mention the fact that he was losing one minute for the leader.. now he loses 3 minutes but is still second :-)
Old rallies have been always tactical games (in longer rallies no one didn't ever drive all distance with 100%). Current rallies are like sprint events and otherwise it is flat out from start to finish. This rule reminds me some old rallies and what I have read about them.
If you want to be champion you have to cope with driving while being first on the road. Loeb has done it superbly, Latvala has shown some very good signs and sometimes Hirvonen as well. Thanks to the tactics we saw Latvala winning easily and Solberg getting third place. And nice fight in last day. I dont say that there is only one day of proper rallying.
Ideal format would be: Lower drivers try to get as good lead as possible. next day they are trying to protect it while being first on the road, the same for last day.
Anyway.. it is not that topic.. superb pictures by the way :-)
Rallyper
26th May 2009, 15:22
Agree. Until the rules change, every WRC gravel rally will just be playing silly games for 2 days and then maybe a fight on day 3 if we're lucky. It would be nice to see an event where the drivers are fighting on genuine pace. Wilson wants these rules to stay though, I guess he is scared of his boys having to really fight for a win.
You haven´t seen NORF 2009 yet. That rally will be throttle down all weekend!! :D :D
playmo
26th May 2009, 17:49
It was a surprise result, but a good one! hope this helps to settle Jari's head and results start (mean top 3 constant finishes) coming. But if he's to continue Great-Mcrae steps, then he'll have to get more lucky than this weekend.
Bad for Loeb and Elena for their mistake and hope they'll learn. After that full stop before the yellow marks even made me feel shame, but Mikko just not getting it right made me laugh (it even seemed that Jarmo was angry at him for that).
After all it wasn't all that bad event, wouldn't you agree? I enjoyed, wich didn't happen for a while.
Hipo1990
26th May 2009, 17:51
http://rally3.de/bilder/2009/sardinien/index.php
a lot of photos :)
a lot of photos :)
Superb! Thanx!
gloomyDAY
27th May 2009, 14:56
Excellent photos everyone. Bravissimo!
Finally, a rally where 1 person pushed hard from beginning to end.
That was kind of weird. :p
toras
27th May 2009, 16:08
Photos from Sardegna:
http://rallynews.info/lang.en/no/galeria/69 - 222 photos
http://rallynews.info/lang.en/no/galeria/68 - 103 photos
Motorsportfun
27th May 2009, 19:40
http://www.rally-image.be/album/2009-sardinie-TB/large/086.jpg
This pic reminds me Argentina :)
jbanbury
27th May 2009, 23:13
I'ver uploaded a few of my photos from the event is anyone fancies a look ...
http://www.rally-shots.com/Albums/Sardinia/Album2.htm
M+Race
28th May 2009, 18:59
Some photos on my web site http://www.mpiurace.it
Norri
29th May 2009, 08:34
Here are some my photos from Rally d'Italia Sardegna:
http://norri.pravdovi.info/index.php?script=3&id=72
Apparantly the teams are not happy with Sardinia and want SanRemo back in WRC. Maybe they should come to IRC if they like the events more? :p
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/top/topnews/d16/d/2009/05/29/sardinien-unter-beschuss/index.html
darkstar
30th May 2009, 16:39
pictures of the rallye sardinina are now online on:
www.rallye-mad.com (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/home.html)
rallye sardinia 09 (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_11.html)
http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db__MG_6300__Custom_1.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_11.html)
http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db__MG_7376__Custom_1.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_11.html)
http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db__MG_6229__Custom_1.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_11.html)
http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db__MG_9092__Custom_1.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_11.html)
http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db__MG_6660__Custom_1.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_11.html)
http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_11.html
gloomyDAY
1st June 2009, 03:37
http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db__MG_9521__Custom_1.jpg
:eek:
bowler
1st June 2009, 06:47
bella, grazie
bluuford
1st June 2009, 08:42
Conrad´s car looked quite interesting. He must have hit something very, very hard. I haven't seen such a thing that WRCar bonnet is held up by springs on both sides:-)
rallyemotions
8th June 2009, 19:39
OK, little late but still wanted to post: rallyemotions.net has pics from Sardegna (http://www.rallyemotions.net/sardegna_09/).
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