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Rex Monaco

6th April 2009, 20:03

Rex Monaco

6th April 2009, 20:07

Here's the plus side. Ferrari could enter the Indy 500 using an Indycar spec chassis and a world engine.

V12

6th April 2009, 20:24

This isn't the good idea it seems when you first read the headline.

In last weeks' Autosport the head of Audi/VW was advocating a common/similar engine formula that could be applied across IndyCar, F3, WRC and possibly even F1.

But Max :evil: true to form, is completely annihilating the seeds of what was actually quite a good idea, his idea is for an identical engine (not engine formula!) instead. Or at best, a common block and "established" engine parts with areas like exhausts, energy recovery, turbos etc. left free. Either way it doesn't belong in anything calling itself motorsport.

vintage

6th April 2009, 21:18

I guess I'm not bothered by shared parts. From my point of view, the advantage of multiple engines, even if much of it is badging (think NASCAR) is that it gets the manufacturers to spend money on the teams. I'll bet that the Honda teams were getting a lot more money and help from Honda in the IRL when Honda had someone to race against, than they are now.

More money means better opportunities for drivers and teams. The downside is the economic model is then driven by that, and when the manufacturers bail, the series suffers - see ALMS.

methanolHuffer

6th April 2009, 23:04

Something modular might be more reasonable. I'm really, really anti spec anything for long term. It totally discourages any kind of innovation and research.

I know that the spec engines are all about cost savings. But unless you want technology to stagnate, allowing private companies to experiment is the best way to advance engine tech.

DBell

7th April 2009, 02:18

I'm against Indycar doing this. I want them to decide for themselves what will work best for them. I love F1, but don't want Indycar to copy what they are doing. Put some thought into what engine program will work best and make it happen. I also don't want to give the FIA any toehold in Indycar. Keep them completely away. If F1 ever does fail, it will be because of the idiots that make up the FIA.

SUBARUTEAM

7th April 2009, 03:35

Some of us on the Indycar board have thought this would be the best way for a manufacturer to cut costs. So will it happen? And if not, why not?

The race is on to produce a single engine platform capable of sustaining Formula One and the World Rally Championship, and perhaps the IndyCar Series as well--along with their respective supporting series--FIA president Max Mosley announced over the weekend at the WRC Rally de Portugal.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090406/F1/904069993

Am I reading this correctly, a spec engine for F1, Indycar (i have no problem with this) and the world rally championship???? an F1 engine in a rally car??? Was he sobber when he made these comments???

I presume he means that there would be a single seater spec engine and a different rally car spec engine. (which i don't agree with)

nigelred5

7th April 2009, 04:21

What I thought I had read was ore of a common platform in different states of tune. say a 2.0l 4cyl that could be tuned and na or forced induction to produce anywhere from 400 to over 1000 hp.

I propose it be a 2.65 litre DOHC V8. Let F1 twist it up to 18k, indycars can get away with sub 15K. it could be run NA at about 10-12k in just about anything. :D

Bob Riebe

7th April 2009, 20:57

Rex Monaco
Some of us on the Indycar board have thought this would be the best way for a manufacturer to cut costs. So will it happen? And if not, why not?

BORING

F1boat

8th April 2009, 06:33

IRL, do not allow you to have any connection with Mad Max!!!

garyshell

8th April 2009, 16:17

If Max Mosley is involved, run the other way as fast as you can. He will make this so it serves HIS purposes only.

Gary