Sata Rally Açores 2009

[Luis Pacheco]

Let me start the thread with the maps. They are from last year but this year the stages are the same.

http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_1.jpg (http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_1.jpg)
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_2.jpg (http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_2.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN3eiWRFoZw&feature=related

[Luis Pacheco]

Images from the stages
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNTj7D4UyoE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVttF9sw4hY&feature=related

Onboard images from one of the stages
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6O0AG9A0Juw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN3eiWRFoZw&NR=1

[wwbroe]

Let me start the thread with the maps. They are from last year but this year the stages are the same.

http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_1.jpg (http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_1.jpg)
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_2.jpg (http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/mapa_geral_etapa_2.jpg)


Thank you for the imformation, so all stages will remain the same as last year. Then i can use these maps to take a look at the stages. Thanks Louis. ;)

[Buzz Lightyear]

Does anyone know anything about the location of the Rally for Açores, and its base, etc?? Might try and make it over, as it only a short flight from Lisbon, and fits with my time off work, but I can find very little information.

[wwbroe]

Does anyone know anything about the location of the Rally for Açores, and its base, etc?? Might try and make it over, as it only a short flight from Lisbon, and fits with my time off work, but I can find very little information.

Hello, the rally is based on the island of Sao Miguel, wich is the biggest of the nine islands of the Açores. The headquarter is situated in Ponta Delgada wich is the capital city of Sao Miguel. Flights are coming in from Lisbon, straight to Ponta Delgada airport, located not so far from rally center. The stages are situated basically all over the island. Do you need more info? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Witmann and Stohl at Açores Rali too ??? :confused:

[PLuto]

Wittmann is sure, Stohl possible.

[wwbroe]

As there is allready a thread about Rally Açores 2009, i suggest one of the responsible forummanagers can put them together? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

The other thread started with Açores 2008 I think...it was more logical to create new one :mark:

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131763

[J4MIE]

Thread merged and renamed :up:

I had planned to make the trip across to this one but work has conspired against me and I can't make it now :(

[Mirek]

Looks like Guy Wilks may come with Proton. That would be fantastic, he would be for sure one of the fastest :)

[wwbroe]

]Looks like Guy Wilks may come with Proton. That would be fantastic, he would be for sure one of the fastest :)

That would be great indeed, and it wold be also very interesting to see the times he can do compared to tough competition of other brands. ;)

[karlzoro]

]Looks like Guy Wilks may come with Proton. That would be fantastic, he would be for sure one of the fastest :)

"PG" would also be OK for me...or is he concentrating on WRC again instead of proton?
That would be a nice "line up" for Proton in 2010: Petter Solberg & PG Anderson...but Wilks certainly diserves the drive

[wwbroe]

According to ralis.online.pt these are the entries we can expect to see on Açores this year:

ABARTH GRANDE PUNTO S2000
-Giandomenico Basso (ITA)
-Anton Álen (FIN)
-Bernardo Sousa (POR)
-Toni Gardemeister (FIN) - por confirmar

PEUGEOT 207 S2000
-Nicolas Vouilloz (FRA)
-Freddy Loix (BEL)
-Kris Meeke (GB)
-Bruno Magalhães (POR)
-Vitor Pascoal (POR)

SKODA FABIA S2000
-Juha Hanninen (FIN)
-Jan Kopecky (CZ)

MITSUBISHI LANCER EVO
-Ricardo Moura (POR)
-Fernando Peres (POR)
-Franz Wittman Jr. (AUS)
-Ricardo Carmo (POR)
-Pedro Câmara (POR) - por confirmar
-Pedro Vale (POR) - por confirmar

PROTON SATRIA NEO S2000
-Guy Wilks (GB) - por confirmar

VOLKSWAGEN POLO S2000 R
-François Duval (BEL) - por confirmar

SUBARU IMPREZA STI N14/ 12
-Adruzilio Lopes (POR)
-Pedro Rodrigues (POR) - por confirmar
-Manfred Sthol (AUS) - por confirmar
-Pedro Meireles (POR) - por confirmar
-Barroso Pereira (POR)

[karlzoro]

Looks nice already :)
Hope that the offic Skoda's will come to Ypres also..but the chance off that isn't that high...

I thought that Yeray Lemes was also @ the start in 2008??
I hoped to see him there in 2009...

[wwbroe]

Website for this year's rally is now changed, but not much info visible. :(

[Luis Pacheco]

The press presentation will be this afternoon.

[wwbroe]

Looks like Eurosport will be broadcasting about four hours from Sata Rally Açores. At least that i what i make out of it.

Article is on: http://www.ralis.online.pt/

Maybe Luis Pacheco can give us some more info? ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

They are planning four live stages as well the lives from Service Park.

The stages will be "Sete Cidades" on friday and on Saturday "Tronqueira".

[Luis Pacheco]

Is confirmed Julien Maurin confirm will be in Azores with Rene Georges and the VW Polo S2000.

[GTA]

Is confirmed Julien Maurin confirm will be in Azores with Rene Georges and the VW Polo S2000.

:) .. :) .. :)

[PLuto]

Toni Gardemeiste wont start in Acores.

[karlzoro]

Toni Gardemeiste wont start in Acores.
pitty....

[Tom206wrc]

Apart Denis Millet who is expected in 2WD "cup" at Açores ??? :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

Conrad Rautenbach will drove a 207 S2000 in Azores.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Conrad Rautenbach will drove a 207 S2000 in Azores.

He must push really hard to be in a top ten position in normal conditions... :s mokin:

[GTA]

is there any info from wich port the cars are leaving from Portugal to Acores..? is it Lisboa or Porto .??.. and wich date.?

[Luis Pacheco]

Did you already contact the organization to ask this questions?

[JAM]

Conrad Rautenbach will drove a 207 S2000 in Azores.

:confused: To do what?

[Luis Pacheco]

Not to win, I´m sure. Maybe to smash or burn another car.

The new who give Conrad at Azores is from an azorean newspaper who talks about a newsletter from the organization but no other media received it.

I´m not to doubt about the veracity of the new but is strange nobody else received the comunication from the organizers.

[Tom206wrc]

Ouch Rautenbach in a 207 S2000... :s :s :s

[Tom206wrc]

By the way will entrylist be published the 13th april ??? :confused:

[JAM]

Not to win, I´m sure. Maybe to smash or burn another car.

The new who give Conrad at Azores is from an azorean newspaper who talks about a newsletter from the organization but no other media received it.

I´m not to doubt about the veracity of the new but is strange nobody else received the comunication from the organizers.

They sent a PR today at lunch time.

By the way, the organizers contacted Marcus Gronholm, but the 40.000 Euros asked + car rent was too much.

[Luis Pacheco]

Still much less compared to the value requested by Duval. :D

[wwbroe]

Still much less compared to the value requested by Duval. :D

Yes, but Duval thinks he is god himself.... :D

[karlzoro]

Yes, but Duval thinks he is god himself.... :D

& who can pay God ;)

[GTA]

Still much less compared to the value requested by Duval. :D


:) .yep.. all true.. ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Tonight the entry list will be known. The azorean press speaks about 50 entries and this morning I received the confirmation that one brand team spoken to race at Azores will not be present.

[wwbroe]

Tonight the entry list will be known. The azorean press speaks about 50 entries and this morning I received the confirmation that one brand team spoken to race at Azores will not be present.

And wich one might that be Luis? ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Is not difficult to guess. :D

[wwbroe]

Is not difficult to guess. :D

Rautenbach? :D

[Luis Pacheco]

No.

[wwbroe]

Proton? :D

[PLuto]

Yes, it is Proton.

[JAM]

The usual difference between speak that will be present and make any real movement to be trully present.

Speak is easy, to work is hard.

[karlzoro]

So, no Wilks or Proton @ Açores...
But we have:
-> 207:
* Vouilloz
* Loix
* Meeke
* Magalhaes
* Rautenabch
* Pascoal

-> Abarth:
* Basso
* Alen
* Sousa
* Nuno Barroso Pereira??

-> Skoda:
* Hanninen
* Kopecky

-> VW:
* Maurin

-> Gr N:
* Fernando Peres
*....
*....

did I forget some one?

[JAM]

Nuno Barroso Pereira is now driving a Subaru Impreza N14.

We have Adruzilo Lopes in an Impreza N14, is the Grp N 2008 chmapion.

The local drivers Ricardo Moura (Azorean 2008 champion) and the veteran Horácio Franco (he has more than 50 years but is always a surprise...), both in Lancer Evo IX.

Armindo Araújo had some conversations with organizers, but they didn't seem very interested in him.

[wwbroe]

So, no official entrylist yet, i tought it was supposed to come out today? ;)

[PLuto]

There is still lot of time, more than 1 hour :)

[Luis Pacheco]

Is schedule to 9:PM Azorean time. It should be at any moment on the organization site.

[PLuto]

I know the same situation from opposite side, when I am giving entry list to Barum rally :D

[Luis Pacheco]

Well is time to sleep now. :s nore:

Tomorow I will see the entry list.

[Tom206wrc]

;)

[wwbroe]

Good morning, but i still don't see any entrylist on website of rally :( :confused: :(

[Tom206wrc]

:mark:

[JAM]

Good morning, but i still don't see any entrylist on website of rally :( :confused: :(

Don't worry. You're not the only one :D

[Luis Pacheco]

Yes, it is Proton.

:D

Unfortenely this brand will not be present.
I had many expectations to see how competitive Proton is on gravel.

Has I now the organization is still under negociations with Gronholm. Let´s hope so.

[WRC1]

what about the entrylist??

any infos about a new date for the release?

[Luis Pacheco]

Monday, Apr-13-2009
18:00h - Closing Date for Co-Driver details - Rally HQ
21:00h - Publication of Entry List Accepted by the Organiser - Rally HQ

Wednesday, Apr-15-2009
21:00h - Publication of Entry List in Seeded Order - Rally HQ

[Tom206wrc]

:D
...
Has I now the organization is still under negociations with Gronholm. Let´s hope so.



What car for Bosse if he comes ??? :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

PUG

[karlzoro]

Armindo Araújo had some conversations with organizers, but they didn't seem very interested in him.

Araujo would also be great to see, always spectacular... :s mokin:

So they are still talking with Marcus...let's hope now :cool:

[JAM]

So they are still talking with Marcus...let's hope now :cool:

Not only Marcus. Let's see if we have two excelent names with two extra PUGs.

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for entrylist :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

News ???? :confused:

[wwbroe]

News ???? :confused:

Normally it will come out this evening at 21h00 Tom, i guess we will have to wait a little longer. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

OK :mark:

[Luis Pacheco]

Later tonight I will try to go at rallye headquarters and I hope to see the entry list.

[Luis Pacheco]

Later tonight the Azores rallye press-officer will send the entry list to the media, I just received the information minutes ago.

[karlzoro]

2 Pug's xtra???
Gronholm and Ogier?
Ojeda? ( didn't he drove there in 2008??) :confused:
Stohl?
I can gues many names...We shall see on entrylist... :)

[Luis Pacheco]

Ogier was not contacted by the organization. At least this was the information given by the manager of Ogier some days ago.

Ojeda is possible with a Lancer says the azorean press. Subaru Spain told me they don´t have any information about Ojeda at Azores and there is not budget to Manfred Sthol run.

[Tom206wrc]

It's too long to wait for this evening :(

[Luis Pacheco]

Be patience. Only 5 hours left. :D

[Tom206wrc]

I want Grönholm on a 207 S2000 at Açores !!! I want it !! I want it !! I want it !!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Luis Pacheco]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Would you be so happy if he were in a Fabia? :D :D :D :D

[wwbroe]

Would you be so happy if he were in a Fabia?

Me, i would even be more happy. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :D

[Tom206wrc]

Would you be so happy if he were in a Fabia? :D :D :D :D



Whatever good S2000 he drives(207, Grande Punto, Polo, Fabia), Bosse will win in front of all the IRC contenders :cool:

[Tom206wrc]

On Sportmotores they say the 2nd "top driver" in discussion with organization is Petter Solberg !! :)

He could drive an Abarth Grande Punto, car he already tested with ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Wow!

But that's too good to be true,but if the organizers can realize that my hats down to them...

[karlzoro]

On Sportmotores they say the 2nd "top driver" in discussion with organization is Petter Solberg !! :)

He could drive an Abarth Grande Punto, car he already tested with ;)

I read this some time ago....
I was hoping (if it isn't Ogier) on Bouffier or Gardemeister...
But a clash Gronholm - Solberg in IRC :s mokin: :cool: at least they are trying to get them.
Sandell wasn't an option with his Skoda?

[Luis Pacheco]

Yestarday Abarth confirm only two Puntos (Basso/Alen).
Let´s see.

[Tom206wrc]

Yestarday Abarth confirm only two Puntos (Basso/Alen).
Let´s see.


On the article of Sportmotores(updated today)they write Solberg could get another car...Grande Punto was one of possibilities ;)

[wwbroe]

The time-mimit of 21h00 is now passed, and still no entrylist. :( :D

[Tom206wrc]

The time-mimit of 21h00 is now passed, and still no entrylist. :( :D



Let them distribute the entrylist to all rally medias :p :

[WRC1]

Later tonight the Azores rallye press-officer will send the entry list to the media, I just received the information minutes ago.

i hope they do not use carrier pigeons to send the list to mainland europe...

[JAM]

On the article of Sportmotores(updated today)they write Solberg could get another car...Grande Punto was one of possibilities ;)

I took some risks writing that, but i have to trust in my source. Was to publish that yesterday but i didn't. It came out today.

Luis Pacheco is closer the organizers than me but he is quiet :D

But i think that Solberg and Gronholm in Azores is a kind of a miracle.

The 9PM in azores is the 10PM GMT.

[Sardalense]

The time-mimit of 21h00 is now passed, and still no entrylist. :( :D

Unfortunately in Azores the local time is one hour less that Lisbon/London, so let´s wait until 23h cet.

[Tom206wrc]

I have the feeling nothing concrete has to be expected before tomorrow(morning??) :rolleyes:

[wwbroe]

Unfortunately in Azores the local time is one hour less that Lisbon/London, so let´s wait until 23h cet.

Yes, of-course, you are right, we must wait till 23h00 central European time. I forgot that we have two hours time difference with Açores. So we will hear from Luis pretty soon. :D :D

[WRC1]

ähhhmmm....23:05 entry list anyone??

[Luis Pacheco]

I hope to see Solberg at Azores with a Punto but Grifone told me only two Punto´s will be here.

I gave up going at rallye HQ because the press-officer told he will send this night the entry list to the media and the HQ is a little far from my house.

[Tom206wrc]

For who the two Grande Puntos of Grifone ??? Basso and Alen ??? :confused:


Now we have to wait for tomorrow definitely then :mark:

[Luis Pacheco]

Yes, for Basso and Alen. This was what they said to me.

The entry list will be out tonight. I know is quite midnight in central europe but please wait a little more.

[Tom206wrc]

OK I wait :)

[WRC1]

OK I wait :)

me tooo

[wwbroe]

Me too, i am still here waiting.... :D :D :D

[JAM]

There's no option than wait :D

[MJW]

I hope to see Solberg at Azores with a Punto but Grifone told me only two Punto´s will be here.

I gave up going at rallye HQ because the press-officer told he will send this night the entry list to the media and the HQ is a little far from my house.
Is it Grifone who runs the Abarth cars?

[Tom206wrc]

Yep MJW ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

I was surprise too when Grifone told me they will give assistance to the two Abarth Puntos. Maybe they were subcontracted to do the job.

[JAM]

Let's hope that the Puntos are Abarth spec...

[Luis Pacheco]

There is someone sleepy now? :D

[Sardalense]

There is someone sleepy? :D

I have a pillow in my desk, and I´m watching Seinfeld....

[wwbroe]

There is someone sleepy now? :D

I am still here, but i don't know for how much longer. :D

[Luis Pacheco]

I will wait only more half an hour. Tomorow I have to weak up at 7:00 AM to go to work.

[Mirek]

I was surprise too when Grifone told me they will give assistance to the two Abarth Puntos. Maybe they were subcontracted to do the job.

It may be because of the time the cars will stay on the sea...

[Luis Pacheco]

The time between Ypres and Azores is more than a month. Plenty of time to bring the cars back to Italy (two weeks not more), change to asfalt setup and get ready to run at Ypres, I think. If they don´t have prepared cars only to asfalt and others only for gravel...

[wwbroe]

So Luis, still no entrylist available, i think i will go and catch some sleep now. :D

[Luis Pacheco]

Well for me is time to sleep too.

Sweet dreams guys. :D

[FAlonso]

I'm also still waiting but I don´t want to get my expectations too high. Having said that, maybe this delay will turnout to be a good thing.

[Tom206wrc]

Nothing yet this morning :rolleyes:

[wwbroe]

I am still waiting for this entrylist, but it seems that organisation doesn't keep his time-shedule. :( I am glad i didn't stay up all night to wait for it to appear. :D

[WRC1]

i am very dissapointed about the organisation in acores, and it seems i am not the only one...

i mean if they write a release date on theire internet page it is one thing, but if the press officer personally told luis that they send out the list last evening and nothing happends it is really strange und not very professionell

reg

wrc1

[Tom206wrc]

On Sportmotores there's an update: "Apesar de estar estipulado no regulamento a divulgaçao da lista de inscritos as 21h açoreanas do dia 15 de abril, tal acabou por nao acontecer" :confused: :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

Someone who was yestarday night at organization HQ tells the entrylist will be release today but he don´t know at what hour. Now we only have to wait and hope this delay will bring something really good for all of us.

[WRC1]

On Sportmotores there's an update: "Apesar de estar estipulado no regulamento a divulgaçao da lista de inscritos as 21h açoreanas do dia 15 de abril, tal acabou por nao acontecer" :confused: :confused:


...wich means?

[JAM]

On Sportmotores there's an update: "Apesar de estar estipulado no regulamento a divulgaçao da lista de inscritos as 21h açoreanas do dia 15 de abril, tal acabou por nao acontecer" :confused: :confused:

The article is from April 15th. As we are on April 16th some words are welcome to say that besides the deadline, there's still no entry. Otherwise people start searching and is not necessary to losse time with it :D

[JAM]

...wich means?

Besides the announcement of the entry list no 21h of azorian time to wednesday, that didn't hapenned.

[Tom206wrc]

What annoying situation :(

[RS]

One thing to say is that it is amazing to see how many people are interested in this entry list!

Does anybody stay up all night to wait for a WRC event entry list?! :D

[Tom206wrc]

Could someone tell us at least how many S2000s there will be ??? :confused:

[JAM]

Could someone tell us at least how many S2000s there will be ??? :confused:

No.

I can only assure that if Gronholm will come we will have one more S2000 and if Solberg will come we will have another one more S2000 :D

[urabus-denoS2000]

I have a pillow in my desk, and I´m watching Seinfeld....

At least it'a a very good show :cool: :D :cool: :D

What episode was it?

[Sardalense]

At least it'a a very good show :cool: :D :cool: :D

What episode was it?

I was watching season 6 :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

I'm on season 7 ;)

[Tom206wrc]

We won't have anything today neither or what ???? :mad:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Tom,go watch Seinfeld,time will past faster

[JAM]

We won't have anything today neither or what ???? :mad:

I already gave up of wait. Yesterday went to bed at 1.45AM... today was almost all morning near the computer.

[Sardalense]

Tom,go watch Seinfeld,time will past faster

LOL

[Tom206wrc]

News ???? :mark:

[N.O.T]

is it some kind of tradition in portugal to announce fake names all the time before the rally ? i thought it was only the case with madeira but it seems this is not the case.....lets wait and see.

[wwbroe]

Luis, help us, there is still no news? What are they waiting for? :( :confused: :(

[Luis Pacheco]

The delay is due to negotiations with one or more drivers. Let´s be patient and wait a little more time. The rallye will not run away! :D
One thing is sure I will not wait this night for the entrylist. I have a plane to catch tomorrow morning very early. :D The Azorean Championship starts this weekend.

[wwbroe]

The delay is due to negotiations with one or more drivers. Let´s be patient and wait a little more time. The rallye will not run away! :D
One thing is sure I will not wait this night for the entrylist. I have a plane to catch tomorrow morning very early. :D The Azorean Championship starts this weekend.



Wich island is the first round on? ;)

[Sardalense]

Wich island is the first round on? ;)

Terceira

[wwbroe]

Terceira

Thank you Sardalense, have a nice rallye over there. ;)

[JAM]

Here it is:

Sata rally Açores entry list (http://iris.cpidt.pt/projectos/sportmotores/img/fotos/19154.xls)

No surprises :(

[wwbroe]

Here it is:

Sata rally Açores entry list (http://iris.cpidt.pt/projectos/sportmotores/img/fotos/19154.xls)

No surprises :(

So, no surprises, what was the delay for then? Anyhow i am glad it finally came out, thanks. ;) :D :)

[N.O.T]

what ? no gronholm? no loeb? no solberg? no latvala? no duval?

whats wrong with the organisers in portugal are they retarded? and announce all these possible names before their rallies?

[Luis Pacheco]

I only ask: Where is the world champion said by the organization?

[cyr]

what ? no gronholm? no loeb? no solberg? no latvala? no duval?

perhaps with "0" car ?

[WRC1]

thx JAM for the list!!

very strange behavior from organisation...i hope this will be better during the race itself.

is there any comment on the "big names" "big surprise" from official site??

i hope they want tell us rautencrash is the big surprise...

reg

wrc1

[urabus-denoS2000]

WRC1,at least now you have a 74,86% chance to see a crash! ;)

[Mirek]

I realy don't understand the Portuguese habbit to announce big names everytime. After that the entry list is always a kind of dissapointment. There is nothing good with that even for organization. Why do they still do the same way?

The entry list itself is quite good for a distant rally but after those announcement almost everyone expects more and is therefore dissapointed...

[Tom206wrc]

What surprise to see another 207 R3T in the 2WD cup alongside Denis Millet(Laurent Ferrari) :eek: :confused:



Edit: it's a mistake in the text, the car can only be a 206(A6 group/class) :rolleyes:

[Priorat]

I only ask: Where is the world champion said by the organization?

Vouilloz was VTT world champion

[DonJippo]

perhaps with "0" car ?

All of them? Man that's going to be one crowded car ... :dozey:

[WRC1]

All of them? Man that's going to be one crowded car ... :dozey:

they have to use a WRB (World Rally Bus) to have enough space for all the famous names ;o)

[JAM]

The organizers didn't annouced names. The organizers tried negociate, but "try" is different from to be able to confirm.

I would like to see Gronholm and Soberg in Azores, but i don'y feel frustrated. As we say in my region "is good to mantain the foo on earth" :)

[JAM]

Speling "is good to mantain the feet on earth"

[AlfaWRC]

Speling "is good to mantain the feet on earth"

That's how it is and "the trees do not grow in the sky".
But for sure, we can expect better (although this one is quite OK) entry lists on the following tarmac events.

[karlzoro]

Speling "is good to mantain the feet on earth"

there are no big surprises, but the list is OK for me :)

[Luis Pacheco]

Unfortunately the four live stages by Eurosport will not occur. :(

[wwbroe]

Unfortunately the four live stages by Eurosport will not occur. :(


What happened Luis? What is the reason :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

The lives from the stages since the beginning were not guaranteed. They tried but now the live broadcast will be from the Assistance Park only.

[wwbroe]

That is really pitty, especially for those who wanted to watch it at home. :(

[PLuto]

That is really pitty, especially for those who wanted to watch it at home. :(

So we must change our plans and go to Acores "Live" :D

[wwbroe]

So we must change our plans and go to Acores "Live" :D
That is the best idea i have heared for long time. :D

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like PH-Sport will take care of Rautenbach 207...but from what team will it be rent ???? :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

That is really pitty, especially for those who wanted to watch it at home. :(

The azorean television will broadcast live the super-special stage on thursday for national television. The live stream could be watch on net, I think.

[wwbroe]

When will the website of the rally be updated, there is still no rallyguide or spectatorguide. :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

The rallyeguide, as we can see on the programme, is schedule to be release next monday - 27th april.

The spectator guide sometimes is publish a little later. I don´t know if this year it will be like last year.
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/FETEIRAS.pdf
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/SETE_CIDADES.pdf
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/2008/SS_GRUPO_MARQUES.pdf

[karlzoro]

Is it with Public Area's?? I hope not...
I also hope that the maps of the special stages will appear on the offic website soon....
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/uk/mapas.html
@ this time it always says: "not found" :rolleyes:

[Luis Pacheco]

Is it with Public Area's?? I hope not...


What you mean with public areas?

[Luis Pacheco]

I also hope that the maps of the special stages will appear on the offic website soon....
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/uk/mapas.html
@ this time it always says: "not found" :rolleyes:

Follow this link on the portuguese version of the website:
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/mapas.html

[wwbroe]

What you mean with public areas?

I think Karlzoro means places where you are forced to go, so that you cannot go to other places. Kind of like in Portugal, where they don't allow you to walk near stage to go to some nice points, but you are forced to go to "public areas". :D

[wwbroe]

Is it with Public Area's?? I hope not...
I also hope that the maps of the special stages will appear on the offic website soon....
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/uk/mapas.html
@ this time it always says: "not found" :rolleyes:

Hey Kevin, if you use the Portuguese version of the site, you will be able to see the mapas. The first days it was Google Earth foto's that they put on it, but now it changed to normal maps, but they are not very accurate. I have been searching for good roadmaps of Sao Miguel, but the ones that i found are not really great neither, so i will use my Google Earth files to prepare for this rally. :D

[Luis Pacheco]

I think Karlzoro means places where you are forced to go, so that you cannot go to other places. Kind of like in Portugal, where they don't allow you to walk near stage to go to some nice points, but you are forced to go to "public areas". :D

Here the thing is a little more soft :D

We also have the public places as both of you call but you can go for other areas. Of course in some places you can have problems with the

marshalls and with the police but in general nothing comparable to what we saw at Rallye of Portugal where you can not be less than 500 meters from the road.

[wwbroe]

Ok Luis, thank you for the answer, i think we are all really looking forward to the event. ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

The time is running and we are almost there!

Next week the ferry boat with the cars will sail from Lisbon towards Ponta Delgada.

[karlzoro]

I've got my answers now :D
I shall also prepare me with google earth for this rally...and try to get a good road map @ Açores...
The Public Area's I mean are the one like in Portugal 2008: that you must stay in a restricted area & can't get to other spots...Not that I didn't saw a nice rally ;) but I like to be free to go to (nice) spots instead of being forced to stay @ 1 place

[Luis Pacheco]

When will the website of the rally be updated, there is still no rallyguide or spectatorguide. :confused:

http://www.satarallyeacores.com/uk/guide.html

[Luis Pacheco]

They changed the start time of some stages at leg one.

[GTA]

They changed the start time of some stages at leg one.

Yep and the ferry leaves from SETTUBAL.. not Lisbon.. :) ..
ps i contacted the dealer, so all will be ok.. thanks Luis..

[Sardalense]

Yep and the ferry leaves from SETTUBAL.. not Lisbon.. :) ..
ps i contacted the dealer, so all will be ok.. thanks Luis..

Are you sure about that?

[wwbroe]

Are you sure about that?

Yes, i wonder also, because Kronos mechanics told me yesterday that they have to take ferry in Lisbon? :confused:

[GTA]

Due to the size of the back platform of the Hellenic Sailor, it is only possible to operate in the nearest harbour of Setubal, that has a special harbour for Ferries.

All drivers must go to:
CAIS COMERCIAL DE SETUBAL
TERMINAL DA TERSADO
All vehicles must be there up to 12 hours (noon) of 29th April.
--------------------------------------
this is what we recieved yesterday evening... so i am sure my team is traveling to the correct Port.. :) ..

[Sardalense]

Due to the size of the back platform of the Hellenic Sailor, it is only possible to operate in the nearest harbour of Setubal, that has a special harbour for Ferries.

All drivers must go to:
CAIS COMERCIAL DE SETUBAL
TERMINAL DA TERSADO
All vehicles must be there up to 12 hours (noon) of 29th April.
--------------------------------------
this is what we recieved yesterday evening... so i am sure my team is traveling to the correct Port.. :) ..

Ok, thank you very much, I will be there!

[Luis Pacheco]

This afternoon I went for a ride by some of the stages :D and the surface is in good conditions. In recent weeks is not raining which can make the stages a little hard.

[wwbroe]

Thanks Luis, keep us imformed with your good work. ;)

[noel157]

Ok, thank you very much, I will be there!

Sardalense, don't forget to take your camera.

[Sardalense]

Sardalense, don't forget to take your camera.

That´s the main reason that make me go there, to take pictures :)

[Luis Pacheco]

Spectator guide is online
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/guia.html

[karlzoro]

This afternoon I went for a ride by some of the stages :D and the surface is in good conditions. In recent weeks is not raining which can make the stages a little hard.

I hope it's stays like that :D

[wwbroe]

Spectator guide is online
http://www.satarallyeacores.com/guia.html

Thank you Luis, will the spectatorguide come also in English or only in Portuguese? ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

I really don´t know, Walter. :(

[PLuto]

Friends, it looks I will be on Acores too ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Minutes ago I heard a radio interview in which the president of the organization spoke about 100 foreign journalists in the Açores.

[J4MIE]

I'm gutted to be missing this one but unfortunately I've got too many commitments later in the year that must take priority :(

[Luis Pacheco]

Abarth and Skoda will do a test next 3 and 4th of May in Azores, said a local newspaper. First oportunity to see the cars in action. ;)

[JAM]

It seems that we wil have a lot of people from the forum in Azores Rally.

Luis Pacheco is apointed as the man that commits to book a dinner with all :D

[wwbroe]

Abarth and Skoda will do a test next 3 and 4th of May in Azores, said a local newspaper. First oportunity to see the cars in action. ;)

Where will they do test Luis, because i tought there are not much represenative bases in Sao Miguel. :confused:

[wwbroe]

It seems that we wil have a lot of people from the forum in Azores Rally.

Luis Pacheco is apointed as the man that commits to book a dinner with all :D

I think it is good idea, i will be there anyhow. :D

[Luis Pacheco]

Where will they do test Luis, because i tought there are not much represenative bases in Sao Miguel. :confused:

Abarth will use an old stage called "Gramas". This stage some years ago was used for the Shakedown.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdOlXBR_L6M


Skoda will test on the same route of this year Shakedown. We already know who will scrath the best time on thursday SD. :D

[Mirek]

Or more probably we know who is missing on shakedown...

[wwbroe]

]Or more probably we know who is missing on shakedown...

Mirek, i think shakedown is obligatory for all IRC crews. ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Abarth and Skoda will have the two stages available by the organization, I now know.
Abarth will test on Sunday and Skoda on Monday. So both can use the shakedown section to test.

[WRC1]

I think it is good idea, i will be there anyhow. :D

me too :)

[Luis Pacheco]

It seems that we wil have a lot of people from the forum in Azores Rally.

Luis Pacheco is apointed as the man that commits to book a dinner with all :D

Would be a good idea. Maybe on Sunday if everyone is still here, in San Miguel.

[WRC1]

Would be a good idea. Maybe on Sunday if everyone is still here, in San Miguel.

our plane leaves ponta delgada on sunday at 10:25 :(

[PLuto]

I am in the same situation, I am leaving on Sunday morning. Maybe we can make a party during night after rally? :D

[wwbroe]

I am in the same situation, I am leaving on Sunday morning. Maybe we can make a party during night after rally?

That is even better idea. :D :up: :up: :beer: :beer:

[karlzoro]

I also have a plane to catch on sunday morning around 10h....
I'm really looking forward to the rally :) :)

[Luis Pacheco]

I hope we can be all together on saturday night for a drink.
Let's see if anyone will miss the plane on Sunday morning :D

[wwbroe]

I hope we can be all together on saturday night for a drink.
Let's see if anyone will miss the plane on Sunday morning :D

Well, no problem for me, i only fly back on wednesday around 12 o'clock. :D
I hope to do some major points of interest on Sao Miguel and to enjoy some of the beautifull nature after the rally. ;)

[JAM]

I arrive to the island Wednesday at 11.30pm and have the back plane on sunday at 6pm.

And what a about a bath in the hot sea water Thursday morning? :D

The Trucks are arriving at the port of Setubal, near Lisbon. The ship arrived one hour ago.

Abarth, Rene Georges, BF Goodrich, Procar and Peugeot Portugal are already in.

[Tom206wrc]

I'm surprised so many of you have Rautenbach in your top8 pickems :eek:

[Luis Pacheco]

And nobody is counting with Fernando Peres in the pickems.
The man is the king of Azores Rallye. He already won for seven times.
Don´t have car to win but for the top5 we have to rely with him.

[JAM]

I'm surprised so many of you have Rautenbach in your top8 pickems :eek:

Maybe many of the ones who vote think that a WRC driver is better than a IRC driver. Let's see if at least he finishes the rally :D

[Sardalense]

http://picasaweb.google.pt/joaocpc/EmbarqueDosCarrosParaOsAcoresSetubal#

Photos from the morning at Setubal´s Harbour.

[tolis]

Thanks Sardalense!!!!!!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the pics Sardalense :)

[wwbroe]

Thanks Sardalense for the pictures. :D

[PLuto]

It looks that nobody is interested in organising a small party of people from forum on Acores, so I will try to do it. Everybody, who is interested in a small meeting on Acores (night Saturday/Sunday, but we can also earlier), please write me your phone number to my email [email:3j9l8zfz]pluto@rallysport.cz[/email:3j9l8zfz]

[noel157]

Thanks João, great pictures.

[Luis Pacheco]

Today is a very sunny day in San Miguel.
Hope to see this weather next week.

http://www.climaat.angra.uac.pt/WebCams/index8.htm

[Luis Pacheco]

The Rene Georges´s truck is also huge.

I do not believe there is enough space in VW Ponta Delgada garage to put the truck until wednesday to Service Park, GTA :D

[Sulland]

I'm surprised so many of you have Rautenbach in your top8 pickems :eek:

Agree, but we know where he is speedwise in WRC, so will be interessting to see where he ends up in IRC !

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Agree, but we know where he is speedwise in WRC, so will be interessting to see where he ends up in IRC !
In normal conditions I think he will run around TOP 10...

Only with some retirements he can be in TOP 5/8

[wwbroe]

]In normal conditions I think he will run around TOP 10...

Only with some retirements he can be in TOP 5/8

But probably he will retire first, so no top five spot for him. :D :D :D

[noel157]

Is the entry list seeded? Start order?

http://www.satarallyeacores.com/docs/entry_list.pdf

[Tom206wrc]

Is the entry list seeded? Start order?

http://www.satarallyeacores.com/docs/entry_list.pdf



Yep :rolleyes:


Rautenbach will have to speed a bit with Magalhaes starting just behind him :mark:

[noel157]

Thanks Tom.

[Mirek]

Yep :rolleyes:


Rautenbach will have to speed a bit with Magalhaes starting just behind him :mark:

Tom, he's not that slow. I realy don't think that Magalhaes will have some problem with him.

[Tom206wrc]

I want to believe you Mirek ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

The ferry with the cars is already at Azores.
They arrived this morning.
http://rallyazores.blogspot.com/2009/05/equipas-ja-chegaram-sao-miguel.html

[wwbroe]

Thank you for the pictures Luis. ;) I am getting excited to leave. :D

[noel157]

+1, obrigado Luis.

[Luis Pacheco]

Some pictures I took today at the Super Special track.
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/seacores09/

[james_bond]

The trucks arrived today in Ponta Delgada Port some pictures :D

to transport the trucks team's the GDC rented the Heleniac Sailor Carro Ferry



Peres Competition Truck
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2029/perescompetiojpg.th.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/my.php?image=perescompetiojpg.jpg)

Abrah Fia team Trucks
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2346/fiatabrath1.th.jpg (http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fiatabrath1.jpg)
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/1967/fiatabrath2.th.jpg (http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fiatabrath2.jpg)

there is more i will send you more later :s mokin:

[J4MIE]

Thanks for the updates :up:

Really wish I was going now ;(

[james_bond]

Mais um Sportec Rancing :cool:

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/3210/sportec.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sportec.jpg)
http://img352.imageshack.us/img352/9750/sportec1.th.jpg (http://img352.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sportec1.jpg)

[james_bond]

Stohl Racing :cool:

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7458/sthol.th.jpg (http://img404.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sthol.jpg)
http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/7629/stholrancing.th.jpg (http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stholrancing.jpg)

[Luis Pacheco]

All day long I watch Abarth testing with Alen.
Good weather but much wind. :D

Pictures soon at www.ralisonline.net (http://www.ralisonline.net)

[J4MIE]

Looking forward to the pics Luis :D

Has there been an announcement about the tv coverage yet? Will there be some live like Monte? :)

[wwbroe]

Looking forward to the pics Luis :D

Has there been an announcement about the tv coverage yet? Will there be some live like Monte? :)

Unfortunally it looks like there will only be live coverage from servicepark. :(

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/testeabarlp09/

No lives from the stages on Eurosport. Only the lives from the Service Park.
The super-special will be broadcast live on portuguese television. Can watch by somes streams on net.

[PLuto]

Luis, you have PM.

[J4MIE]

Thanks guys, I wasn't expecting it but as usually hoping for it anyway ;)

[FAlonso]

I´m very much looking forword to this rally. Predicting the winner is difficult but, having said that, my money is on Bruno Magalhães.

He won last year, has always been very quick there and knows the rally very well with a lot of previous participations under his belt. If

luck doesn´t desert him (like it has on just about every international participation he's had be it Portugal, Madeira, Asturias, Sanremo..) I

believe he is odds-on for the win. I expect Meeke, Hanninen, Vouilloz and maybe Alen to be amongst the fight for the top places but it

would be great if the likes of Basso, Loix and Kopecky could be in there as well. As someone said already, I think Fernando Peres will be

someone to keep an eye on eventhough the car (Evo IX) might not be enough to fight for the win. At 44 years old he is a bit past his

prime but he has always been blindingly quick in this particular event, with 7 wins through the years (that could easily have been 10 or

more) sometimes against some stiff international competition. And his knowledge of the azorian stages is second to none.

All in all, a very exciting prospect for some action this weekend. A beautiful island, a beatiful rally, with beatiful demanding stages.

Can´t wait.

[FAlonso]

Forgot to mention local and current regional azores champion Ricardo Moura who is still young but a very fast and exciting driver who also knows these stages very well. Like Peres, the car (EVo IX) might prevent him from springing a surprise but still let´s wait and see.

[wwbroe]

Lots of nice pictures by Luis Pacheco of Abarth testing in Açores can be found here:

http://www.ralis.online.pt

Thanks Luis for great contribution. :)

[Tom206wrc]

One driver who seems to be absolute motivated for the win is Kris Meeke !!! After test with Kronos in southern France his confidence seems almost 100% :D :D

[Jafry]

Photos from Skoda Motorsport test before start of the rally HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=515&au=0)

[wwbroe]

Photos from Skoda Motorsport test before start of the rally HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=515&au=0)

Thanks for the pictures Jafry. ;)

[Luis Pacheco]

Some of my pictures.

The Skodas looks like planes flying throw the stage!

http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/skodalp09/

[wwbroe]

Thank you Luis for the nice pictures, and see you tomorrow in Ponta Delgada. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

No pic of PH Sport 207's livery yet ??? :confused: