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Tom206wrc
26th January 2009, 13:56
Hi,



Next IRC round, as we all know, will be held in Brazil at the start of march...

But for now I can't find ANY websites for this event :confused:

I tried on two of the biggest brazilian motorport websites http://www.cronospeed.com.br/ and http://www.mundorally.com.br and nothing on them about Curitiba rally :mark:


Any help would be appreciated...thanks ;)

Sardalense
26th January 2009, 16:06
LEG 1 06/03/09

08h00 - Start
09h00 - SS1 - Campo Magro 1 (19,20 km)
10h10 - SS2 - Ouro Fino 1 (9,90 km)
10h40 - SS3 - Curitiba 1 (12,55 km)
11h00 - SS4 - Campo Magro 2
12h15 - Service Park (30mn)
14h30 - SS5 - Curitiba 2
14h45 - SS6 - Campo Magro 3
15h15 - SS7 - Ouro Fino 2
17h00 - Service Park (45 mn)

LEG 2 07/03/09

08h02 - Start
08h05 - Service Park (15 mn)
09h00 - SS8 - Bocaiuva 1 (27,45 km)
09h30 - SS9 - Rio Pesqueiro (15,50 km)
10h00 - SS10 - Dom Pedro 1 (19,70 km)
10h50 - Service Park (30 mn)
12h45 - SS11 - Bocaiuva 2
13h25 - SS12 - Dom Pedro 2
14h45 - SS13 - Campina 1 (22,35 km)
15h40 - Finish

Total distance : 678,25 km
Stages : 234,65 km

Official web site : http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/

Sulland
26th January 2009, 16:11
Good Sardalense, you know more than the IRC site, even they do not have this link !!! ;)

Mirek
26th January 2009, 16:58
1200 Eur for entry and only 678 km overal is good for crews. Pitty that it's overseas :(

Tom206wrc
26th January 2009, 18:35
Thank you very much Sardalense :)

Simmi
26th January 2009, 19:16
If its a shared shipping event with the WTCC it is a shame they wont bomb round the race track for a stage to open or close the rally.

Sardalense
26th January 2009, 21:53
I have an advantage over all of you, I know portuguese ;)

OldF
27th January 2009, 10:27
This footage has been posted earlier also but itís more current now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bMjMbuzQB0

kalkmann
28th January 2009, 11:57
You can find information on the following links (in brazilian portuguese):

General information and news:
- http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Table/BRASILEIRO-2009-1a-Etapa/
Regulations:
- http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209149/IRC-Regulamento-Particular-do-Rally-Internacional-de-Curitiba.html

- Program:
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209150/IRC-Programacao-Oficial-do-RICUR.html

- Stage Maps:
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209146/IRC-Mapa-das-especiais-do-Rally-Internacional-de-Curitiba.html

- Official Tourism Agency:
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209147/IRC-Pacotes-para-o-Rally-Internacional-de-Curitiba-com-a-Agencia-Oficial.html

Wim_Impreza
28th January 2009, 12:36
Thank you kalkmann and welcome on the forum.

kalkmann
28th January 2009, 13:47
Thank you kalkmann and welcome on the forum.

Thanks! Here you find some videos from the latest edition of the Rally da Graciosa (Curitiba nov/08):

http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200812289237/CBR|VIDEO-Some-videos-from-the-last-Rally-da-Graciosa-Curitiba-edition.html (http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200812289237/CBR%7CVIDEO-Some-videos-from-the-last-Rally-da-Graciosa-Curitiba-edition.html)

2 Videos and photo sequence of a Peugeot 206 (A6)/ accident in same rally:

http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200810278214/CBR-Dois-videos-e-sequencia-de-fotos-da-capotada-de-Edu-Paula-no-Graciosa.html

Luis Pacheco
28th January 2009, 14:58
The stages looks good with nice surface.

Tom206wrc
28th January 2009, 17:48
Thanks Kalkmann :)

PLuto
6th February 2009, 13:22
Abarth and Kronos will start in Brazil. There is also possibility of start Toni Gardemeister - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7925

[Madeira-Rally]
10th February 2009, 17:34
]1200 Eur for entry and only 678 km overal is good for crews. Pitty that it's overseas :(

the entry isn't 1200 €... in official website there is R$1200
In fact that is about 487 € ;)

but you must sum R$200 of insurance so total is:
around 569 €

In Madeira Island.. a local event that count only for local champ. coast almost that value (without insurance) they want to put 450 € entry fee... :s :smokin:

Mirek
10th February 2009, 17:44
Yes, that's realy low cost. In Czech International Championship entry is approximately from 450 to 900 Eur.

GTA
10th February 2009, 19:30
sadly no VW Polo S2000 in Brasil... talks stopped because of missing Budget from driver.... :( .... next step.. possible Acores... the car is super on Gravel so we hope to score one or 2 drivers...

RS
10th February 2009, 20:24
sadly no VW Polo S2000 in Brasil... talks stopped because of missing Budget from driver.... :( .... next step.. possible Acores... the car is super on Gravel so we hope to score one or 2 drivers...

Ahhh, that would be interesting. I don't believe we have seen the Polo on an IRC gravel event before from memory...

Tom206wrc
13th February 2009, 15:42
Apparently no Gardemeister in Curitiba :(

Tom206wrc
14th February 2009, 10:56
http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/inscritos.htm

Will there be more entries or is it the final ???? :confused:

morganmilan
17th February 2009, 14:09
Any answer to Tom206wrc? I would know too if the published entry list is definitive or not... :confused:

urabus-denoS2000
17th February 2009, 14:12
This is definitive

GTA
17th February 2009, 14:14
only 5 Super 2000 at the start: 3 x Kronos Peugeot and 2 x Abarth..!!! its better that IRC stays in Europe for events....

urabus-denoS2000
17th February 2009, 14:27
A lot better than China...

Sulland
17th February 2009, 14:57
For F1 it might work for FIA to push it into new continents, but for a more or less privateer championship, this is the result. I agree IRC should stay in europe, where more or less all teams/drivers are based !

PLuto
17th February 2009, 16:56
only 5 Super 2000 at the start: 3 x Kronos Peugeot and 2 x Abarth..!!! its better that IRC stays in Europe for events....

Yes, but in Brasil they are trying to make a experiment - do WTCC and IRC in the same place, with similar TV coverage. We will see how it will works...

Tom206wrc
17th February 2009, 18:17
Despite the reduced costs by Eurosport it didn't attract a lot of european teams/drivers...to me it's rather a failure :mark:

GTA
17th February 2009, 19:49
the problem is not for the works team as Peugeot and Abarth, its more for the smaller teams and private teams that will have to miss their cars for more then 1 1/2 month... But i agree that it will be a nice event.. and the Transport arangements are OK...

RS
17th February 2009, 20:09
I think the idea behind Brazil is a good one, it is just a pity that Skoda are not going but it should still be a good event.

It's Japan and Safari I am worried about...

Mirek
17th February 2009, 20:11
I think that for Škoda the reason is the same as for GTA. They need to get as many cars as possible to their customers and they don't have some to cruise over the ocean for weeks...

Wim_Impreza
18th February 2009, 13:21
For F1 it might work for FIA to push it into new continents, but for a more or less privateer championship, this is the result. I agree IRC should stay in europe, where more or less all teams/drivers are based !

Than IRC is not Intercontinental any more.

Sulland
18th February 2009, 16:41
Just rename to international then, if FIA will allow... ?? :vader:

Mirek
18th February 2009, 17:13
FIA is not organizer of IRC. Eurosport Events may use whatever name they want.

Rally Hokkaido
19th February 2009, 00:59
]FIA is not organizer of IRC. Eurosport Events may use whatever name they want.

However, it is FIA-approved so it's name must be approved by FIA for its events to be included on the international calendar. Eg. it may not use the word, 'championship'.

Mirek
19th February 2009, 01:14
Yes, I know that it can't use "championship" status but I don't think that matters if it's called "Intercontinental" or "International" ;)

AndyRAC
19th February 2009, 09:12
A World Championship needs to run on at least 4 continents - with more than 2 Manufacturers, so the WRC is hardly qualified for that status - it has in fact got a waiver.

Luis Pacheco
19th February 2009, 15:20
One more S2000 on Brazil!

Vitor Pascoal with the number six!

PLuto
19th February 2009, 15:30
Yes, it is true: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7995

ftn1989
19th February 2009, 15:42
According to the news in the site the list isn't finished yet... hope there are more S2000 (today we got one more :D )

JAM
19th February 2009, 17:00
This is a strange new, because Pascoal's 207 is in pieces being prepared to Rally Torriť in Portugal in the same weekend.

Vitor Pascoal didn't knew anything about it 2 hours ago...

Tom206wrc
19th February 2009, 17:29
:confused:

Tom206wrc
19th February 2009, 17:55
Therefore the IRC organizers cannot invent the presence of Pascoal on Curitiba's entrylist :mark:

There's another article about the subject on http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?sid=as.sections/13

PLuto
19th February 2009, 18:48
Confirmed directly from Pascoal - he didnt send entry, he wont start there, it must be only joke to organisers

JAM
19th February 2009, 19:42
I read the new on IRC site at portuguese 02.10pm and imediatelly contactated Vitor. He tought i was joking... :D

He can't understand how this happened and at the midle of the afternoom was trying to make some contacts to clarify the situation.

The Amarante Rally Team send a press-realease to the media dennying the presence in Brasil.

I tryed to contact the brasilian organizers, but didn't receive any answer.

PLuto
19th February 2009, 20:02
Maybe somebody wants his start in Brazil very much :)

JAM
19th February 2009, 21:44
This story is unbelievable.

Someone (not the team) sent the entry using the official site of the rally last Monday, the organization accepted it without any confirmation and updated the entry list after it was published. It was a joke and the organizers take it as true without any contact from or with Vitor Pascoal.

Now both have a problem. Vitor has a problem with the negative image of the situation, and the organizers too.

Pascoal is very upset with all the situation.

ZequeArgentina
20th February 2009, 18:56
Quite surprized to see that Argentinean Tango Rally Teams, entried both Evo 10 of Ligato and Cancio as IRC entries too.
They may take some points ou of the S2000, if their new Evo 10 (just finished for forst round of Argentinean Championship this weekend) can work well.
Take a lok at the Paraguayian Galeano who has experience in this round (not like the Argentineas, I guess Ligatocan have rallies here once, but not sure)

J4MIE
20th February 2009, 21:56
I take it we are likely to see a similarly poor entry for Japan? :(

PLuto
20th February 2009, 23:06
Yes, in Japan will be silimar poor entry, But due to this event we will have Subaru in IRC :)

J4MIE
21st February 2009, 00:50
I'll go to Asturias instead then ;)

Rally Hokkaido
21st February 2009, 05:34
]Yes, I know that it can't use "championship" status but I don't think that matters if it's called "Intercontinental" or "International" ;)

IIRC, in the first year IRC was called 'International...'. I wonder why they changed? Was it because of 'advice' from FIA or clever marketing by Eurosport, as 'intercontinental' is almost the same meaning as 'world'?

JAM
21st February 2009, 15:04
In the first year it was only a kind of cup in some rallyes of the european championship. It was the test to a new championship.

modri dirkac
23rd February 2009, 09:21
In the first year it was only a kind of cup in some rallyes of the european championship. It was the test to a new championship.
Not Championship, only Challenge! ;)

wwbroe
23rd February 2009, 18:23
For those who are interested, you can find the stages for Curitiba Rally (in Google Earth) on the folowing link ;) :

http://rapidshare.com/files/20163736/Rally_International_de_Curitiba_2009.kmz (http://rapidshare.com/files/201637363/Rally_International_de_Curitiba_2009.kmz)

Tom206wrc
2nd March 2009, 11:55
What's the current GMT time in Brazil ???? :confused:

Mirek
2nd March 2009, 12:26
Right click on your time on Windows toolbar, than click adjust time and date and there change time zone to get Brasilian time ;)

wwbroe
2nd March 2009, 12:43
What's the current GMT time in Brazil ???? :confused:

They are four hours earlier, so noon here (12 o'clock) would be 8 o'clock in Curitiba. ;)

Tom206wrc
2nd March 2009, 14:09
So GMT-3 is brazilian time difference with Europe :)

LP
2nd March 2009, 21:21
what are the predictions for this rally? will Team Tango with it's extensive PWRC experience be able to match the speed of IRC regulars? reviews say that the new lancer evo X has better handling and weight distribution than the previous one - it should be closer to s2000.

modri dirkac
3rd March 2009, 11:17
what are the predictions for this rally? will Team Tango with it's extensive PWRC experience be able to match the speed of IRC regulars? reviews say that the new lancer evo X has better handling and weight distribution than the previous one - it should be closer to s2000.
I don't think so. S2000 are nowdays much too strong for Subaru and Mitsubishi, even if it is called Evolution (known as X). Which is not good, they should be competitive. Ahh, FIA ... :arrows:

Tom206wrc
3rd March 2009, 11:45
I thought FIA increased weight of S2000s in order to reduce gap with traditionnal GrNs this year :confused: :confused:

modri dirkac
3rd March 2009, 12:18
Yes, but they should be more radical. :rolleyes:

wwbroe
3rd March 2009, 13:17
Yes, but they should be more radical. :rolleyes:

I don't agree with that, i think it is allready pitty that they increased weight. As a matter of fact a S2000 car is a real racecar, build with the purpose of rallying. A group N car is an upgrated roadcar wich is something totaly different. But i agree with you that it is problem that they are running under the same category, and therefore the FIA is to blame. They should have made different categories for Gr. N and S2000 instead of making them run in one same category. ;)

modri dirkac
3rd March 2009, 13:42
That's my point: if they are running in the same category, they should be (more or less) equal. Otherwise there is no point for Mitsubishi or Subaru to compete in rallying (PWRC, local championships, ...). Waste of time and money, and money nowdays is a problem for japanese car makers. ;)

Mirek
3rd March 2009, 15:15
You have to see it also from manufacturer's point of view. S2000 is 3x more expensive. If it is equal to gr.N in speed because of additional weight etc., noone buys it and S2000 cars would than die. That would be the worst way to go. Making separate class is way easyier and much more reasonable.

ZequeArgentina
3rd March 2009, 15:21
what are the predictions for this rally? will Team Tango with it's extensive PWRC experience be able to match the speed of IRC regulars? reviews say that the new lancer evo X has better handling and weight distribution than the previous one - it should be closer to s2000.

Tango Team will be using EVO IX, they still have not made the debut of heir Evo X.
Last weekend the first round of Argeninean Championship was held, Tango cars were up the speed wih Villagras Evo X, Madero (Tango Team) finally won the event on the last special, wih a 2 second margin.

I doubt they got the speed to match top S2000, but are able to fight for podium.
Cancio is currently faster than Ligato (now no only driver, but co-owner and manager of Tango Team), butnew to Brazil.
Ligato was there some 8 yeas ago, not sure if that couldbe so usefull

wwbroe
3rd March 2009, 15:36
Does somebody know where we will be able to find results of the stages, because on official site there is no results-page for the moment? :)

Tom206wrc
3rd March 2009, 15:40
I was hoping on http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=727 would appear the live-results page :p :

Mirek
3rd March 2009, 15:42
No, they won't be there. European championship only...

wwbroe
3rd March 2009, 15:58
]No, they won't be there. European championship only...

Hey Mirek, so you to don't know where we will find results of the stages? :(

Mirek
3rd March 2009, 16:00
I don't know. I haven't even started searching...

Tom206wrc
3rd March 2009, 16:05
Perhaps the official website will give a link when rally starts :confused: :confused:


I can't believe there wouldn't be any live result service...that can't be :mark:

wwbroe
3rd March 2009, 16:24
Perhaps the official website will give a link when rally starts :confused: :confused:


I can't believe there wouldn't be any live result service...that can't be :mark:

Let's hope so, Tom, because it would ba awefull not to have results. :(

PLuto
3rd March 2009, 20:43
I was hoping on http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=727 would appear the live-results page :p :

We wont be making results from Brazil live, only after rally (like Monte - http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/monte). But if there will be page with official results, I will give the link there, of course.

PLuto
3rd March 2009, 21:33
Few actual pictures from Rally Curitiba: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=102

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090303/thumb__MG_0630.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090303/thumb__MG_0723.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090303/thumb__MG_0739.jpg

Tom206wrc
3rd March 2009, 23:33
Thanks Pluto :)

Tom206wrc
5th March 2009, 09:53
BFGoodrich provides us a live-results service :)
http://live.bfgoodrich.com/

Cronospeed also provide live news and pics ;)
http://cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?id=66

J4MIE
5th March 2009, 10:15
Thanks Tom, looking forward to this afternoon :up:

cyr
5th March 2009, 10:45
BFGoodrich provides us a live-results service :)
http://live.bfgoodrich.com/

Cronospeed also provide live news and pics ;)
http://cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?id=66

live results on your mobile www.pjea.com/mobile (http://www.pjea.com/mobile) ;)

PLuto
5th March 2009, 11:37
Aaaaaaaaah, it is a pity. I have missed again pickems to IRC. Like Monte :bigcry:

urabus-denoS2000
5th March 2009, 11:40
You are slow PLuto...

When you see the entry list then rush to our forum and make your pickems ;)

kalkmann
5th March 2009, 14:05
Live from Curitiba: http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Cobertura-do-RICUR-Quinta/

Comming soon the shakedown videos.

Tom206wrc
5th March 2009, 14:16
And what about shakedown times ???? :confused:

Ramore
5th March 2009, 14:28
When does the rally actually start? I think it should be running already.

kalkmann
5th March 2009, 14:36
According to the timing crew, times will be published in http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/

J4MIE
5th March 2009, 17:04
Looks like event is two legs and will start tomorrow morning, so we are a day early...... ;)

Tom206wrc
5th March 2009, 17:08
Looks like event is two legs and will start tomorrow morning, so we are a day early...... ;)


Nobody is late, we all know SS1 starts tomorrow at 8.30(GMT-3) ;)


But shakedown was well today, and no time available yet :mark:

wwbroe
5th March 2009, 17:14
According to the timing crew, times will be published in http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/
Thank you Kalkmann, do you have any info about shakedown times? ;)

cyr
5th March 2009, 17:59
shakedown times http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/shakedown.htm

Tom206wrc
5th March 2009, 18:09
Strange thing on SD !!!! They "give" wrong cars to drivers(Meeke a Subaru, Basso a 207,...) :s

http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/shakedown.htm

wwbroe
5th March 2009, 18:11
shakedown times http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/shakedown.htm

Thank you cyr for the info, looks like the Pugs are in front again, but we will see during the rally, maybe Alen can do something. Basso is way of the pace. ;)

noel157
5th March 2009, 19:12
Meeke SD clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhRGdN2ZlNY&eurl=http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/03/rally-brazil-shakedown-videos/

Loix SD clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G75Wj2SKEBI&eurl=http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/03/rally-brazil-shakedown-videos/

Meeke interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9-0P2lGCE&eurl=http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/03/rally-brazil-shakedown-videos/

Tom206wrc
5th March 2009, 20:09
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=416


I thought the Czech wouldn't provide us live results for Brazil ?? :D

PLuto
6th March 2009, 04:33
First on the road will be Freddy Loix...

Starting list into Day One: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=8816b10e3c24b169d36ea935148ab405

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 10:42
Start SS1 in two hours :)

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 12:51
SS1 should be on the way now ;)

cyr
6th March 2009, 13:13
ES 1 http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.html

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 13:14
Kris Meeke on SS1 !!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.html

noel157
6th March 2009, 13:14
Meeke wins SS1 by 10 sec from Alen.

bluuford
6th March 2009, 13:14
http://chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.html

cyr
6th March 2009, 13:18
more times on this page http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.php?print=1

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 13:18
Not a good time from Fast Freddy though :mark:

jonas_mcrae
6th March 2009, 13:33
not a bad time for ligato.
I thought the locals would be a bit higher in the leaderboard but ok, not bad

vino_93
6th March 2009, 13:42
Meeke :p : He is my favourite for the win here :)

jonas_mcrae
6th March 2009, 14:01
what time is SS2?

ZequeArgentina
6th March 2009, 14:06
not a bad time for ligato.
I thought the locals would be a bit higher in the leaderboard but ok, not bad


Ligato is not local, he is from Argentina. Only drove this event in 2000, and specials are different. I do not see any clear advantage over europeans.
Additionally they were not ready with the Evo X, so turned back to the Evo IX.

chryby
6th March 2009, 14:09
pictures from curitiba:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=491&au=0

noel157
6th March 2009, 14:10
what time is SS2?

Now live.

All times UK:


Today:
12.00 SS1, Campo Magro, 18 km
13.10 SS2, Ouro Fino, 12 km
13.40 SS3, Curitiba, 12 km
14.00 SS4, Campo Magro, 18 km
17.30 SS5, Curitiba, 12 km
17.45 SS6, Campo Magro, 18 km
18.15 SS7, Ouro Fino, 12 km
Saturday
12.00 SS8, Bocaiķva, 28 km
12.30 SS9, Rio Pesqueiro, 14 km
13.00 SS10, Dom Pedro, 19 km
1545 SS11, Bocaiķva, 28 km
16.25 SS12, Dom Pedro, 19 km
17.45 SS13, Campina, 23 km

jonas_mcrae
6th March 2009, 14:24
Ligato is not local, he is from Argentina. Only drove this event in 2000, and specials are different. I do not see any clear advantage over europeans.
Additionally they were not ready with the Evo X, so turned back to the Evo IX.

I know ligato is not local, thats pretty obvious (duuh) , specially as I met the guy during rally mexico, so I would've be making a big mistake there. I was refering to the Brazilians. thats why I left some space between sentences.

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 14:29
SS2 running, and Meeke again fastest, for small margin, ahead of Alen Jr and Vouilloz ;)

PLuto
6th March 2009, 14:52
Anton Alen lost 42 seconds on stage 3 :(

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 14:57
Where's Ligato ???? :confused:

ZequeArgentina
6th March 2009, 14:58
I know ligato is not local, thats pretty obvious (duuh) , specially as I met the guy during rally mexico, so I would've be making a big mistake there. I was refering to the Brazilians. thats why I left some space between sentences.


Brazilian do not have much history and experience in rallying, it is growing but not asdeveloppedas in Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, and also as in Chile and Peru.
There are fewBR drivers that got to rally in international or regional events.

They have agood market, and the country is very suitablefor rallying, so the conditionsfor a rapid growing in Brazil are there.

In tha last years he sport has been growing rapidly, even with some automakers involvement (in N2 VW, Fiat, and GM),so hey will develop drivers and teams much faster.

I consider Rafael Tulio as a very fast Brazilean, but he is running in a 1,6 2wd car.
Futcher is a traditional BR driver (not young now),and Scheer is said to be fast, but I havenīt followed his times, so cannot say much more about it.

cyr
6th March 2009, 15:01
Where's Ligato ???? :confused:

it was 4

ZequeArgentina
6th March 2009, 15:22
Alen lost some 40 seconds in SS3, he is now 6th.(could be 7th after Cancioīs time)
Ligato up to 4th, but waiting for Cancio who was only 2 seconds behind him.

SS4 tiems are delayed.........

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 15:25
Alen in SS4 ???? :confused:

ZequeArgentina
6th March 2009, 15:30
Finally Canci times appeared, h is now 4th (Ligato then 5th, and Alen 7th), as expected (at least by me) Cancio is fastest non S2000.

(Cancio has never took part in brazil)

cyr
6th March 2009, 15:53
alen 17:04.3 !!!

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 15:56
Almost three hours to wait before SS5 to start now :mark:

WRC1
6th March 2009, 16:05
any info what happend to alen on ss3 (and 4) maybe puncture?

ZequeArgentina
6th March 2009, 16:09
Problems for Ligato in SS4, he is now 7th, but lost 1m 30s in the stage (puncture???, and off???)

Cancio again 4th time in the stage and same position in general.

PLuto
6th March 2009, 16:37
It looks that Alen rolled on SS 3.

Sulland
6th March 2009, 16:51
Meeke is flying, and the stages are very fast, after ss4 the average is 116 km/h and ss2 had 144 km/ as average.

Sad with Alen, he went well as long as he was in the game. Do we know what happened to him ?

cyr
6th March 2009, 17:30
retirement for alen and ligato ? http://www.cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?p=5040

big_sw2000
6th March 2009, 17:38
Meeke is flying, and the stages are very fast, after ss4 the average is 116 km/h and ss2 had 144 km/ as average.

Sad with Alen, he went well as long as he was in the game. Do we know what happened to him ?
Think Meeke is going to be tough to beat on any gravel round this year.
Looking foward to watching toniht on Eurosport

wwbroe
6th March 2009, 17:46
retirement for alen and ligato ? http://www.cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?p=5040

Strange, because there is also Meeke on this list :( :confused: I think it is not correct this list of abandonos. ;)

noel157
6th March 2009, 18:05
Strange, because there is also Meeke on this list :( :confused: I think it is not correct this list of abandonos. ;)

Mistake, no longer on list.
From his blog - "Kris takes lead in Brazil, and fastest on all morning opening stages. Service now, no dramas with car or driver. very impressed with stages, not much cleaning, very wide and consistent grip levels. 3 stage repeated later about 15h00 Local time. Videos later in Day"

Luis Pacheco
6th March 2009, 18:10
Alen went off the road with little damages.

A funny episode with Kronos at the first fuel point after stage two.

In the absence of the team to supply the cars, Kronos were supplied with the help of Abarth and Fiat Brazil. :rolleyes:

Sulland
6th March 2009, 18:28
So alen punctured on 3, and went off on 4 is that correct ?

HaCo
6th March 2009, 18:31
So alen punctured on 3, and went off on 4 is that correct ?

On ircseries.com they say he hit a corner in a slow corner on 3 and broke his suspension. He said he would take it very easy on 4 just to get through...

Pitty.

ZequeArgentina
6th March 2009, 18:41
Unfortunatley it is confimed that Ligato not only suffered a puncture, but had to retire:

IRC site: "Ligato, who was for many years a frontrunner in the Production Car World Rally Championship, was running sixth overall on the Rally Internacional de Curitiba, having set fifth-fastest time on the opening three stages.

The puncture on SS4, which he did not stop and change, cost him a minute and a half so he dropped one place to sixth, behind Peugeot Belgium's Freddy Loix.

However, it soon became apparent that there was more far-reaching damage to his Mitsubishi when the car overheated on the road section. With a broken radiator, Ligato's rally is now over. "

Pitty, cause if he lost 1m 30s meant he was not far for finish, if he had stopped, with some 4 muntes to change wheel he would have been out of the battle also................

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 18:44
SS5 running ;)

noel157
6th March 2009, 19:07
Meeke wins again, 5 secs ahead of Freddy.

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 19:36
What happens ???? Times are loooong to come :mad:

jonas_mcrae
6th March 2009, 19:37
the timing site crashed...

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 19:41
the timing site crashed...



:confused:

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 20:06
Please news !!!! :(

Luis Pacheco
6th March 2009, 20:14
Ligato is out of the race.

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 20:17
Is the rally stopped or are the drivers still running in stages ??? :confused:

Luis Pacheco
6th March 2009, 20:19
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php?option=com_ponygallery&func=watermark&id=5823&Itemid

Sulland
6th March 2009, 20:21
Did the Abarth crew fix Alens car ?

Luis Pacheco
6th March 2009, 20:22
Is the rally stopped or are the drivers still running in stages ??? :confused:

They are now on the seven stage.

karlzoro
6th March 2009, 20:27
Alen went off the road with little damages.

A funny episode with Kronos at the first fuel point after stage two.


In the absence of the team to supply the cars, Kronos were supplied with the help of Abarth and Fiat Brazil. :rolleyes:


:) Imagine: CitroŽn supplying Ford in WRC???
I hope that Meek kan keep the pace :s mokin:

Oh, by the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC8vEJ9kTPU
I made a small video form Portugal 2008...I knwo it's a little bit late :D

noel157
6th March 2009, 20:36
Just got a call from a guy in service. Looks like Meeke took SS6 and 7 so leading going into day 2.
All unofficial of course.

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 20:37
Very great news for Meeke if confirmed :up:

ZequeArgentina
6th March 2009, 20:46
God news, they changethe time system, the one which collpased off, and the usual for reginal (CODASUR) and Argentinean site for times is now running under the official site.: http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/tempos.htm

Luis Pacheco
6th March 2009, 20:49
Meeke won both stages, is true.

He ends the day with 48s ahead of Basso and Vouilloz.

http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/tempos.htm

Mirek
6th March 2009, 20:55
Thanks, Basso is now second, nice battle with Vouilloz. Also very nice run from Alejandro Cancio. Meeke seems to be unstopable.

noel157
6th March 2009, 21:07
Thanks Zeque.

After Day 1:

Meeke 207 50.47.0
Basso Punto + 48.6
Vouilloz 207 + 48.9
Canico Evo +1.03.6
Loix 207 + 1.22.5
Galeano Evo +2.31.6

Francisco
6th March 2009, 21:20
Thanks for all the info you give, I live like 1000 km from curitiba. Paraguay, Asuncion, our driver Galeano is doing ok, for his first time in Curitiba in an EVO IX.

So see you tomorrow. I hope we will not have see more problems with timming.

Forde-fotos
6th March 2009, 21:46
Kris and Paul were really flying today, very fast stages, look very similar to Finland.

J4MIE
6th March 2009, 21:50
So looks like expected that Meeke is very competitive, but to finish first........

Shame for Alen, was hoping that at least he could get through the first day without trouble.

Also, good to see Abarth show some proper rallying spirit :up:

Tom206wrc
6th March 2009, 22:15
Also, good to see Abarth show some proper rallying spirit :up:



Yep thanks Abarth ;)

Mirek
7th March 2009, 00:33
Watched Eurosport a while a go. Both stages and scenery are wonderful!

Almeidafoto
7th March 2009, 01:20
Looks like Meeke is going really fast, as he did in Monte. Let's hope he doesn't do any rubbish...

off topic: I cannot afford to pay a cent, but is there anybody wiling to help me a bit. It's getting hard to keep my homepage updated with the increase on events flow.

vino_93
7th March 2009, 02:38
Woh, Meeke is ... very impressive.
How many stages will he win ? :p I hope 6 :p

bluuford
7th March 2009, 09:45
There was possibly some advantage not to be first on the road as well. Loix was much faster on the second passes. But still slower than Meeke.

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 10:16
There was possibly some advantage not to be first on the road as well. Loix was much faster on the second passes. But still slower than Meeke.

We will see today, because Meeke is now opening the stages i suppose. The stages today are a little less fast and more technical, so we will see what that gives in the timesheets. Two hours to go to the first stage of the day, wich is the longest of the rally and will be run only once. ;)

bluuford
7th March 2009, 10:52
IN IRC they are using the old WRC system where first 10 or 15 start in reverse order.. but in Brazil there are only 22 cars left.. So.. does anybody have starting order for today?

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 11:45
IN IRC they are using the old WRC system where first 10 or 15 start in reverse order.. but in Brazil there are only 22 cars left.. So.. does anybody have starting order for today?

It was like that in Monte Carlo, first ten in reversed order, but i don't know if it will be like that in other rally's. Last year there were no IRC rally's where they used this system. ;)

Sulland
7th March 2009, 12:28
when do they start today, in CET ?

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 12:29
when do they start today, in CET ?

First stage has started 17 mins ago, so i am waiting for first results to come in. ;)

Mirek
7th March 2009, 12:34
So, Meeke first on the road.

FF-fan
7th March 2009, 12:38
Basso 11 sec faster than Meeke.

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 12:38
Basso is 11 sec faster as Meeke, so road position seems to matter after all.

alleskids
7th March 2009, 12:44
were do you get the result from?

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 12:44
Cancio is loosing quiet a lot on stage 8, and not good time for Loix either. :(

Sulland
7th March 2009, 12:48
It is said to be much more loose gravel on todays stages, so it might be a bigger difference being first on the road today !

tolis
7th March 2009, 12:52
@ alleskids
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=416&stage=5905&category=&group=&section=

Mirek
7th March 2009, 12:58
Video from leg 1: http://www.wnproducoes.net/wnftp/Rally%20Internacional%20Curitiba/dia%2006-03/release06-03.wmv

Mirek
7th March 2009, 13:06
Where is Galeano? :(

Luis Pacheco
7th March 2009, 13:20
Second stage of the day won by Basso.

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 13:25
Loix is passing in front of Cancio and is now fourth overall, but way behind the other three. (one minute exactly).

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 13:55
Does anybody see stagetimes for stage 10, should have finished allready :( :confused:

Mirek
7th March 2009, 13:58
Alen out?

Forde-fotos
7th March 2009, 14:01
No times at all for SS10 ? :(

hari
7th March 2009, 14:04
]Alen out?

Alen rolls out

Abarth driver Anton Alen has rolled out of SS9 on the Curitiba Rally, whilst attempting to make up time lost following suspension damage yesterday . According to his father, Markku, the car went off the road and the damage makes it impossible to continue. "They are OK, but the car went off the road and I think there is some damage to the rear," said Markku Alen.

Source: http://www.ircseries.com

Mirek
7th March 2009, 14:10
Thank You, Alen is again very disappointing for me :(

wotaguy
7th March 2009, 14:18
loix now forth, stay in front kris :) oh and thanks for link to result site its fantastic e wrc results, ive been looking at stage times to al wrc rallies ive attended :D

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 14:20
loix now forth, stay in front kris :) oh and thanks for link to result site its fantastic e wrc results, ive been looking at stage times to al wrc rallies ive attended :D

Yes, but they don't have results of stage 10 neither. So does anybody have results of stage 10? :(

wotaguy
7th March 2009, 14:27
or stage nine :rolleyes:

Luis Pacheco
7th March 2009, 14:27
vouilloz won stage 10.
Meeke lost more 9s to Basso.

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 14:28
vouilloz won stage 10.
Meeke lost more 9s to Basso.

Hey Louis, where did you see these stage times?

Luis Pacheco
7th March 2009, 14:30
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Cobertura-do-RICUR-Sabado/

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 14:41
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Cobertura-do-RICUR-Sabado/

Thank you Louis, it is working now in other site's also. :)

wotaguy
7th March 2009, 14:42
meeke just 22 secs lead now , basso fastest again, , stage time snow up

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 14:42
Could become a close fight for victory, with three stage's to go and half a minute for top three. ;)

noel157
7th March 2009, 14:44
Story behind Meeke's loss of time from his blog:

Kris lead has been cut this morning, running first on the road has been tough, but more of an issue was the refuel after SS1 was within 100m of stage end and the brakes started boiling, he had very little brakes for next two stages, and the hand brake went as he was using it to slow the car. Service now though so those problems should be sorted.
On the last stage SS10, he met 3 motorbikes and a child walking on road, the problem appears to be too big a gap between zero cars, and the main field. Hopefully will be addressed for last loop.
3 stages remaining, but they are all relatively short stages. Kris picked the hard tyre for this mornings loop, while the other drivers picked the soft option, but they were complaining of the tyres moving and concerned with tyre wear, so unsure wheather Kris will choose these for the last loop.
90% of the last loop of stages are re-run of this mornings, so hopefully the sweeping of the gravel will not be an issue

Simmi
7th March 2009, 14:45
I'm getting nervous now for Kris. Hopefully the road sweeping isn't as bad on the two repeat runs after service, but then there is a fairly long final stage that could make all the difference!

Also very poor performance from Alen. Surely with barely any entrants the priority is to bring it to the finish. Not go off twice.

ZequeArgentina
7th March 2009, 14:47
Here is another site for timming: http://www.codasur.org/resultados/curitiba_2009/MENU.HTM

Official southamerican Automotive Association (FIA of Southamerica)

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 15:59
Stage 11 should be live now. ;)

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 16:16
Meeke is setting fastest time on stage, and Vouilloz take second overall from Basso. ;)

wotaguy
7th March 2009, 16:32
what happened to basso then?, should be enough lead for kris, but last stage be a worry

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 16:45
Meeke and Basso both trough stage 12, Basso is 3.6 sec faster. ;)

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 16:47
Best time for Vouilloz again, extending his second place position to Basso.

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 17:05
Last stage of the rally should be live now. Thumbs up for Chris to take his first victory in IRC. :up:

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 17:33
Where does these f...cking stage times are? I cannot find them anywhere?

HaCo
7th March 2009, 17:35
Where does these f...cking stage times are? I cannot find them anywhere?

Wondering the same... pff. :)

Fingers crossed for Meeke and Basso!!! :)

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 17:35
Meeke wins, Vouilloz second and Basso third. ;)

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 17:38
Loix taking the lead in the championship, ahead of Basso, Meeke and Ogier, with Vouilloz in fifth position. ;)

HaCo
7th March 2009, 17:41
Yep, just saw it as well... good rally for Basso anyway. Fourth for Fast Freddy.

Championship (quick calc):
Loix 13
Basso 10
Vouilloz 10
Meeke 8


Will there be a Safari Rally this year?

HaCo
7th March 2009, 17:41
Great for Meeke and Peugeot Sport UK!

pettersolberg29
7th March 2009, 17:44
Yep, just saw it as well... good rally for Basso anyway. Fourth for Fast Freddy.

Championship (quick calc):
Loix 13
Basso 10
Vouilloz 10
Meeke 8


Will there be a Safari Rally this year?

Vouilloz 8
Meeke 10

;)

alleskids
7th March 2009, 17:52
Why is loix misisng fromthe results?

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 17:54
Vouilloz 8
Meeke 10

;)

And Ogier also ten points remember Monte Carlo. ;)

alleskids
7th March 2009, 17:58
Loix is missing from the eWRC results :( . So
Meeke 10
Ogier 10
Basso 10
Loix 8
Vouilloz 8

wwbroe
7th March 2009, 18:02
Loix is missing from the eWRC results :( . So
Meeke 10
Ogier 10
Basso 10
Loix 8
Vouilloz 8

I don't know where you are getting this from, because in my results he is there, and leading the championship. :D

alleskids
7th March 2009, 18:07
My mistake, on the first click of the results Loix was missing. Sorry
Loix 13
Meek 10
Basso 10
Ogier 10
Vouilloz 8
Alen 0

wotaguy
7th March 2009, 18:12
really pleased for kris, great win, this is going to be a great championship this year :D

Sulland
7th March 2009, 18:15
Congratulations to Meeke for the first win in IRC !

For the championship I am a bit sorry that Basso lost 2nd, and Alen could not fight till the end - Abarth may need to get in a third very quick driver - Call Brynildsen or Mikkelsen !! :-)

Looking forward to getting Skoda back in the fight, and hopefully Proton amd Polo also soon !

MJW
7th March 2009, 19:44
Abarth may need to get in a third very quick driver - Call Brynildsen or Mikkelsen !! :-)

Or Chris Atkinson..........

N.O.T
7th March 2009, 19:45
Great Performance by the brit...he managed to be fast and on the road this time...hope the trend continues.

J4MIE
7th March 2009, 20:15
Game on ;)

Sulland
7th March 2009, 20:55
Or Chris Atkinson..........

Not a bad idea, or maybe Duval !

urabus-denoS2000
7th March 2009, 21:58
Or for an Italian team,Galli!!!! (although he doesn't like the S2000 formula)

bassist
7th March 2009, 22:14
Fantastic Kris/Paul - great result. your in the frame now, and shows that Monte wasn`t a flash in the pan! As far as I can see your in the box seat for the future, and with all the current debate regarding S2000/WRC 2010, you cold be in the right championship, at the right time. Keep the shoe in!! Sarnau.

GigiGalliNo1
8th March 2009, 02:38
Just going through the photo gallery on IRCseries.com
And the photos taken form the rally look similar to Rally Australia!

But great shots and nice job Meeke!

Torsen
8th March 2009, 05:32
tv production sucked...

HaCo
8th March 2009, 09:23
Vouilloz 8
Meeke 10

;)

Missed thatone, even Better :)

Allyc85
8th March 2009, 09:49
Get in :D :D Brilliant job by Kris to bring it on home after showing his brilliant pace on day one. Hopefully he and the team can keep this going for the rest of the season and get that title :D

ProRally
8th March 2009, 11:35
tv production sucked...

Won't be like Monte Carlo every time :D :D

Mirek
8th March 2009, 12:15
Live coverage was planned from most atractive rallys only.

HaCo
8th March 2009, 12:34
Wasn't it planned to drive on the WTCC track as well? With gravel tires that could have been spectacular...

pucky54
8th March 2009, 13:18
Wasn't it planned to drive on the WTCC track as well? With gravel tires that could have been spectacular...

http://fiawtcc.com/html/gallery/img/gallery/foto/1_CCH_0207.jpghttp://fiawtcc.com/html/gallery/img/gallery/foto/1_CCH_0207.jpg

jonas_mcrae
8th March 2009, 23:24
wow, nice, any more pics? maybe a link?

GigiGalliNo1
9th March 2009, 00:06
http://www.ircseries.com/html/gallery_V3Details.asp?nome=Rally Curitiba&id=3

kalkmann
9th March 2009, 17:17
wow, nice, any more pics? maybe a link?

All photos, exclusive SS videos and interviews collected in Rally Internacional de Curitiba: http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200903099735/IRC-ESPECIAL-RICUR-Todos-os-videos-e-fotos-da-etapa-brasileira.html

jonas_mcrae
9th March 2009, 17:47
cool thanks
I cant be sure (I havent been there) but those brazillian stages look really nice kindda remind me Australia...
They seem to be very fast as well, someone else here said average speeds were very high! well done organizers!

alleskids
13th March 2009, 22:17
The Rally Curtiba will again be in the IRC in 2010.

HenryM
14th March 2009, 00:40
good, I think I will visit curitiba in 2010!