[BRA] Rali internacional de Curitiba...???

[Tom206wrc]

Hi,



Next IRC round, as we all know, will be held in Brazil at the start of march...

But for now I can't find ANY websites for this event :confused:

I tried on two of the biggest brazilian motorport websites http://www.cronospeed.com.br/ and http://www.mundorally.com.br and nothing on them about Curitiba rally :mark:


Any help would be appreciated...thanks ;)

[Sardalense]

LEG 1 06/03/09

08h00 - Start
09h00 - SS1 - Campo Magro 1 (19,20 km)
10h10 - SS2 - Ouro Fino 1 (9,90 km)
10h40 - SS3 - Curitiba 1 (12,55 km)
11h00 - SS4 - Campo Magro 2
12h15 - Service Park (30mn)
14h30 - SS5 - Curitiba 2
14h45 - SS6 - Campo Magro 3
15h15 - SS7 - Ouro Fino 2
17h00 - Service Park (45 mn)

LEG 2 07/03/09

08h02 - Start
08h05 - Service Park (15 mn)
09h00 - SS8 - Bocaiuva 1 (27,45 km)
09h30 - SS9 - Rio Pesqueiro (15,50 km)
10h00 - SS10 - Dom Pedro 1 (19,70 km)
10h50 - Service Park (30 mn)
12h45 - SS11 - Bocaiuva 2
13h25 - SS12 - Dom Pedro 2
14h45 - SS13 - Campina 1 (22,35 km)
15h40 - Finish

Total distance : 678,25 km
Stages : 234,65 km

Official web site : http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/

[Sulland]

Good Sardalense, you know more than the IRC site, even they do not have this link !!! ;)

[Mirek]

1200 Eur for entry and only 678 km overal is good for crews. Pitty that it's overseas :(

[Tom206wrc]

Thank you very much Sardalense :)

[Simmi]

If its a shared shipping event with the WTCC it is a shame they wont bomb round the race track for a stage to open or close the rally.

[Sardalense]

I have an advantage over all of you, I know portuguese ;)

[OldF]

This footage has been posted earlier also but it’s more current now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bMjMbuzQB0

[kalkmann]

You can find information on the following links (in brazilian portuguese):

General information and news:
- http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Table/BRASILEIRO-2009-1a-Etapa/
Regulations:
- http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209149/IRC-Regulamento-Particular-do-Rally-Internacional-de-Curitiba.html

- Program:
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209150/IRC-Programacao-Oficial-do-RICUR.html

- Stage Maps:
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209146/IRC-Mapa-das-especiais-do-Rally-Internacional-de-Curitiba.html

- Official Tourism Agency:
http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200901209147/IRC-Pacotes-para-o-Rally-Internacional-de-Curitiba-com-a-Agencia-Oficial.html

[Wim_Impreza]

Thank you kalkmann and welcome on the forum.

[kalkmann]

Thank you kalkmann and welcome on the forum.

Thanks! Here you find some videos from the latest edition of the Rally da Graciosa (Curitiba nov/08):

http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200812289237/CBR|VIDEO-Some-videos-from-the-last-Rally-da-Graciosa-Curitiba-edition.html (http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200812289237/CBR%7CVIDEO-Some-videos-from-the-last-Rally-da-Graciosa-Curitiba-edition.html)

2 Videos and photo sequence of a Peugeot 206 (A6)/ accident in same rally:

http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200810278214/CBR-Dois-videos-e-sequencia-de-fotos-da-capotada-de-Edu-Paula-no-Graciosa.html

[Luis Pacheco]

The stages looks good with nice surface.

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Kalkmann :)

[PLuto]

Abarth and Kronos will start in Brazil. There is also possibility of start Toni Gardemeister - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7925

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]1200 Eur for entry and only 678 km overal is good for crews. Pitty that it's overseas :(

the entry isn't 1200 €... in official website there is R$1200
In fact that is about 487 € ;)

but you must sum R$200 of insurance so total is:
around 569 €

In Madeira Island.. a local event that count only for local champ. coast almost that value (without insurance) they want to put 450 € entry fee... :s :smokin:

[Mirek]

Yes, that's realy low cost. In Czech International Championship entry is approximately from 450 to 900 Eur.

[GTA]

sadly no VW Polo S2000 in Brasil... talks stopped because of missing Budget from driver.... :( .... next step.. possible Acores... the car is super on Gravel so we hope to score one or 2 drivers...

[RS]

sadly no VW Polo S2000 in Brasil... talks stopped because of missing Budget from driver.... :( .... next step.. possible Acores... the car is super on Gravel so we hope to score one or 2 drivers...

Ahhh, that would be interesting. I don't believe we have seen the Polo on an IRC gravel event before from memory...

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently no Gardemeister in Curitiba :(

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/inscritos.htm

Will there be more entries or is it the final ???? :confused:

[morganmilan]

Any answer to Tom206wrc? I would know too if the published entry list is definitive or not... :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

This is definitive

[GTA]

only 5 Super 2000 at the start: 3 x Kronos Peugeot and 2 x Abarth..!!! its better that IRC stays in Europe for events....

[urabus-denoS2000]

A lot better than China...

[Sulland]

For F1 it might work for FIA to push it into new continents, but for a more or less privateer championship, this is the result. I agree IRC should stay in europe, where more or less all teams/drivers are based !

[PLuto]

only 5 Super 2000 at the start: 3 x Kronos Peugeot and 2 x Abarth..!!! its better that IRC stays in Europe for events....

Yes, but in Brasil they are trying to make a experiment - do WTCC and IRC in the same place, with similar TV coverage. We will see how it will works...

[Tom206wrc]

Despite the reduced costs by Eurosport it didn't attract a lot of european teams/drivers...to me it's rather a failure :mark:

[GTA]

the problem is not for the works team as Peugeot and Abarth, its more for the smaller teams and private teams that will have to miss their cars for more then 1 1/2 month... But i agree that it will be a nice event.. and the Transport arangements are OK...

[RS]

I think the idea behind Brazil is a good one, it is just a pity that Skoda are not going but it should still be a good event.

It's Japan and Safari I am worried about...

[Mirek]

I think that for Škoda the reason is the same as for GTA. They need to get as many cars as possible to their customers and they don't have some to cruise over the ocean for weeks...

[Wim_Impreza]

For F1 it might work for FIA to push it into new continents, but for a more or less privateer championship, this is the result. I agree IRC should stay in europe, where more or less all teams/drivers are based !

Than IRC is not Intercontinental any more.

[Sulland]

Just rename to international then, if FIA will allow... ?? :vader:

[Mirek]

FIA is not organizer of IRC. Eurosport Events may use whatever name they want.

[Rally Hokkaido]

]FIA is not organizer of IRC. Eurosport Events may use whatever name they want.

However, it is FIA-approved so it's name must be approved by FIA for its events to be included on the international calendar. Eg. it may not use the word, 'championship'.

[Mirek]

Yes, I know that it can't use "championship" status but I don't think that matters if it's called "Intercontinental" or "International" ;)

[AndyRAC]

A World Championship needs to run on at least 4 continents - with more than 2 Manufacturers, so the WRC is hardly qualified for that status - it has in fact got a waiver.

[Luis Pacheco]

One more S2000 on Brazil!

Vitor Pascoal with the number six!

[PLuto]

Yes, it is true: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7995

[ftn1989]

According to the news in the site the list isn't finished yet... hope there are more S2000 (today we got one more :D )

[JAM]

This is a strange new, because Pascoal's 207 is in pieces being prepared to Rally Torrié in Portugal in the same weekend.

Vitor Pascoal didn't knew anything about it 2 hours ago...

[Tom206wrc]

:confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Therefore the IRC organizers cannot invent the presence of Pascoal on Curitiba's entrylist :mark:

There's another article about the subject on http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?sid=as.sections/13

[PLuto]

Confirmed directly from Pascoal - he didnt send entry, he wont start there, it must be only joke to organisers

[JAM]

I read the new on IRC site at portuguese 02.10pm and imediatelly contactated Vitor. He tought i was joking... :D

He can't understand how this happened and at the midle of the afternoom was trying to make some contacts to clarify the situation.

The Amarante Rally Team send a press-realease to the media dennying the presence in Brasil.

I tryed to contact the brasilian organizers, but didn't receive any answer.

[PLuto]

Maybe somebody wants his start in Brazil very much :)

[JAM]

This story is unbelievable.

Someone (not the team) sent the entry using the official site of the rally last Monday, the organization accepted it without any confirmation and updated the entry list after it was published. It was a joke and the organizers take it as true without any contact from or with Vitor Pascoal.

Now both have a problem. Vitor has a problem with the negative image of the situation, and the organizers too.

Pascoal is very upset with all the situation.

[ZequeArgentina]

Quite surprized to see that Argentinean Tango Rally Teams, entried both Evo 10 of Ligato and Cancio as IRC entries too.
They may take some points ou of the S2000, if their new Evo 10 (just finished for forst round of Argentinean Championship this weekend) can work well.
Take a lok at the Paraguayian Galeano who has experience in this round (not like the Argentineas, I guess Ligatocan have rallies here once, but not sure)

[J4MIE]

I take it we are likely to see a similarly poor entry for Japan? :(

[PLuto]

Yes, in Japan will be silimar poor entry, But due to this event we will have Subaru in IRC :)

[J4MIE]

I'll go to Asturias instead then ;)

[Rally Hokkaido]

]Yes, I know that it can't use "championship" status but I don't think that matters if it's called "Intercontinental" or "International" ;)

IIRC, in the first year IRC was called 'International...'. I wonder why they changed? Was it because of 'advice' from FIA or clever marketing by Eurosport, as 'intercontinental' is almost the same meaning as 'world'?

[JAM]

In the first year it was only a kind of cup in some rallyes of the european championship. It was the test to a new championship.

[modri dirkac]

In the first year it was only a kind of cup in some rallyes of the european championship. It was the test to a new championship.
Not Championship, only Challenge! ;)

[wwbroe]

For those who are interested, you can find the stages for Curitiba Rally (in Google Earth) on the folowing link ;) :

http://rapidshare.com/files/20163736/Rally_International_de_Curitiba_2009.kmz (http://rapidshare.com/files/201637363/Rally_International_de_Curitiba_2009.kmz)

[Tom206wrc]

What's the current GMT time in Brazil ???? :confused:

[Mirek]

Right click on your time on Windows toolbar, than click adjust time and date and there change time zone to get Brasilian time ;)

[wwbroe]

What's the current GMT time in Brazil ???? :confused:

They are four hours earlier, so noon here (12 o'clock) would be 8 o'clock in Curitiba. ;)

[Tom206wrc]

So GMT-3 is brazilian time difference with Europe :)

[LP]

what are the predictions for this rally? will Team Tango with it's extensive PWRC experience be able to match the speed of IRC regulars? reviews say that the new lancer evo X has better handling and weight distribution than the previous one - it should be closer to s2000.

[modri dirkac]

what are the predictions for this rally? will Team Tango with it's extensive PWRC experience be able to match the speed of IRC regulars? reviews say that the new lancer evo X has better handling and weight distribution than the previous one - it should be closer to s2000.
I don't think so. S2000 are nowdays much too strong for Subaru and Mitsubishi, even if it is called Evolution (known as X). Which is not good, they should be competitive. Ahh, FIA ... :arrows:

[Tom206wrc]

I thought FIA increased weight of S2000s in order to reduce gap with traditionnal GrNs this year :confused: :confused:

[modri dirkac]

Yes, but they should be more radical. :rolleyes:

[wwbroe]

Yes, but they should be more radical. :rolleyes:

I don't agree with that, i think it is allready pitty that they increased weight. As a matter of fact a S2000 car is a real racecar, build with the purpose of rallying. A group N car is an upgrated roadcar wich is something totaly different. But i agree with you that it is problem that they are running under the same category, and therefore the FIA is to blame. They should have made different categories for Gr. N and S2000 instead of making them run in one same category. ;)

[modri dirkac]

That's my point: if they are running in the same category, they should be (more or less) equal. Otherwise there is no point for Mitsubishi or Subaru to compete in rallying (PWRC, local championships, ...). Waste of time and money, and money nowdays is a problem for japanese car makers. ;)

[Mirek]

You have to see it also from manufacturer's point of view. S2000 is 3x more expensive. If it is equal to gr.N in speed because of additional weight etc., noone buys it and S2000 cars would than die. That would be the worst way to go. Making separate class is way easyier and much more reasonable.

[ZequeArgentina]

what are the predictions for this rally? will Team Tango with it's extensive PWRC experience be able to match the speed of IRC regulars? reviews say that the new lancer evo X has better handling and weight distribution than the previous one - it should be closer to s2000.

Tango Team will be using EVO IX, they still have not made the debut of heir Evo X.
Last weekend the first round of Argeninean Championship was held, Tango cars were up the speed wih Villagras Evo X, Madero (Tango Team) finally won the event on the last special, wih a 2 second margin.

I doubt they got the speed to match top S2000, but are able to fight for podium.
Cancio is currently faster than Ligato (now no only driver, but co-owner and manager of Tango Team), butnew to Brazil.
Ligato was there some 8 yeas ago, not sure if that couldbe so usefull

[wwbroe]

Does somebody know where we will be able to find results of the stages, because on official site there is no results-page for the moment? :)

[Tom206wrc]

I was hoping on http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=727 would appear the live-results page :p :

[Mirek]

No, they won't be there. European championship only...

[wwbroe]

]No, they won't be there. European championship only...

Hey Mirek, so you to don't know where we will find results of the stages? :(

[Mirek]

I don't know. I haven't even started searching...

[Tom206wrc]

Perhaps the official website will give a link when rally starts :confused: :confused:


I can't believe there wouldn't be any live result service...that can't be :mark:

[wwbroe]

Perhaps the official website will give a link when rally starts :confused: :confused:


I can't believe there wouldn't be any live result service...that can't be :mark:

Let's hope so, Tom, because it would ba awefull not to have results. :(

[PLuto]

I was hoping on http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=727 would appear the live-results page :p :

We wont be making results from Brazil live, only after rally (like Monte - http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/irc/monte). But if there will be page with official results, I will give the link there, of course.

[PLuto]

Few actual pictures from Rally Curitiba: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=102

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090303/thumb__MG_0630.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090303/thumb__MG_0723.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090303/thumb__MG_0739.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Pluto :)

[Tom206wrc]

BFGoodrich provides us a live-results service :)
http://live.bfgoodrich.com/

Cronospeed also provide live news and pics ;)
http://cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?id=66

[J4MIE]

Thanks Tom, looking forward to this afternoon :up:

[cyr]

BFGoodrich provides us a live-results service :)
http://live.bfgoodrich.com/

Cronospeed also provide live news and pics ;)
http://cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?id=66

live results on your mobile www.pjea.com/mobile (http://www.pjea.com/mobile) ;)

[PLuto]

Aaaaaaaaah, it is a pity. I have missed again pickems to IRC. Like Monte :bigcry:

[urabus-denoS2000]

You are slow PLuto...

When you see the entry list then rush to our forum and make your pickems ;)

[kalkmann]

Live from Curitiba: http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Cobertura-do-RICUR-Quinta/

Comming soon the shakedown videos.

[Tom206wrc]

And what about shakedown times ???? :confused:

[Ramore]

When does the rally actually start? I think it should be running already.

[kalkmann]

According to the timing crew, times will be published in http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/

[J4MIE]

Looks like event is two legs and will start tomorrow morning, so we are a day early...... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like event is two legs and will start tomorrow morning, so we are a day early...... ;)


Nobody is late, we all know SS1 starts tomorrow at 8.30(GMT-3) ;)


But shakedown was well today, and no time available yet :mark:

[wwbroe]

According to the timing crew, times will be published in http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/
Thank you Kalkmann, do you have any info about shakedown times? ;)

[cyr]

shakedown times http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/shakedown.htm

[Tom206wrc]

Strange thing on SD !!!! They "give" wrong cars to drivers(Meeke a Subaru, Basso a 207,...) :s

http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/shakedown.htm

[wwbroe]

shakedown times http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/shakedown.htm

Thank you cyr for the info, looks like the Pugs are in front again, but we will see during the rally, maybe Alen can do something. Basso is way of the pace. ;)

[noel157]

Meeke SD clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhRGdN2ZlNY&eurl=http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/03/rally-brazil-shakedown-videos/

Loix SD clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G75Wj2SKEBI&eurl=http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/03/rally-brazil-shakedown-videos/

Meeke interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9-0P2lGCE&eurl=http://blog.krismeeke.com/2009/03/rally-brazil-shakedown-videos/

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=416


I thought the Czech wouldn't provide us live results for Brazil ?? :D

[PLuto]

First on the road will be Freddy Loix...

Starting list into Day One: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=8816b10e3c24b169d36ea935148ab405

[Tom206wrc]

Start SS1 in two hours :)

[Tom206wrc]

SS1 should be on the way now ;)

[cyr]

ES 1 http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.html

[Tom206wrc]

Kris Meeke on SS1 !!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.html

[noel157]

Meeke wins SS1 by 10 sec from Alen.

[bluuford]

http://chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.html

[cyr]

more times on this page http://www.chronosat.com.br/2009/irc/2/geral.php?print=1

[Tom206wrc]

Not a good time from Fast Freddy though :mark:

[jonas_mcrae]

not a bad time for ligato.
I thought the locals would be a bit higher in the leaderboard but ok, not bad

[vino_93]

Meeke :p : He is my favourite for the win here :)

[jonas_mcrae]

what time is SS2?

[ZequeArgentina]

not a bad time for ligato.
I thought the locals would be a bit higher in the leaderboard but ok, not bad


Ligato is not local, he is from Argentina. Only drove this event in 2000, and specials are different. I do not see any clear advantage over europeans.
Additionally they were not ready with the Evo X, so turned back to the Evo IX.

[chryby]

pictures from curitiba:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=491&au=0

[noel157]

what time is SS2?

Now live.

All times UK:


Today:
12.00 SS1, Campo Magro, 18 km
13.10 SS2, Ouro Fino, 12 km
13.40 SS3, Curitiba, 12 km
14.00 SS4, Campo Magro, 18 km
17.30 SS5, Curitiba, 12 km
17.45 SS6, Campo Magro, 18 km
18.15 SS7, Ouro Fino, 12 km
Saturday
12.00 SS8, Bocaiúva, 28 km
12.30 SS9, Rio Pesqueiro, 14 km
13.00 SS10, Dom Pedro, 19 km
1545 SS11, Bocaiúva, 28 km
16.25 SS12, Dom Pedro, 19 km
17.45 SS13, Campina, 23 km

[jonas_mcrae]

Ligato is not local, he is from Argentina. Only drove this event in 2000, and specials are different. I do not see any clear advantage over europeans.
Additionally they were not ready with the Evo X, so turned back to the Evo IX.

I know ligato is not local, thats pretty obvious (duuh) , specially as I met the guy during rally mexico, so I would've be making a big mistake there. I was refering to the Brazilians. thats why I left some space between sentences.

[Tom206wrc]

SS2 running, and Meeke again fastest, for small margin, ahead of Alen Jr and Vouilloz ;)

[PLuto]

Anton Alen lost 42 seconds on stage 3 :(

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Ligato ???? :confused:

[ZequeArgentina]

I know ligato is not local, thats pretty obvious (duuh) , specially as I met the guy during rally mexico, so I would've be making a big mistake there. I was refering to the Brazilians. thats why I left some space between sentences.


Brazilian do not have much history and experience in rallying, it is growing but not asdeveloppedas in Argentina, Paraguay, Uruguay, and also as in Chile and Peru.
There are fewBR drivers that got to rally in international or regional events.

They have agood market, and the country is very suitablefor rallying, so the conditionsfor a rapid growing in Brazil are there.

In tha last years he sport has been growing rapidly, even with some automakers involvement (in N2 VW, Fiat, and GM),so hey will develop drivers and teams much faster.

I consider Rafael Tulio as a very fast Brazilean, but he is running in a 1,6 2wd car.
Futcher is a traditional BR driver (not young now),and Scheer is said to be fast, but I haven´t followed his times, so cannot say much more about it.

[cyr]

Where's Ligato ???? :confused:

it was 4

[ZequeArgentina]

Alen lost some 40 seconds in SS3, he is now 6th.(could be 7th after Cancio´s time)
Ligato up to 4th, but waiting for Cancio who was only 2 seconds behind him.

SS4 tiems are delayed.........

[Tom206wrc]

Alen in SS4 ???? :confused:

[ZequeArgentina]

Finally Canci times appeared, h is now 4th (Ligato then 5th, and Alen 7th), as expected (at least by me) Cancio is fastest non S2000.

(Cancio has never took part in brazil)

[cyr]

alen 17:04.3 !!!

[Tom206wrc]

Almost three hours to wait before SS5 to start now :mark:

[WRC1]

any info what happend to alen on ss3 (and 4) maybe puncture?

[ZequeArgentina]

Problems for Ligato in SS4, he is now 7th, but lost 1m 30s in the stage (puncture???, and off???)

Cancio again 4th time in the stage and same position in general.

[PLuto]

It looks that Alen rolled on SS 3.

[Sulland]

Meeke is flying, and the stages are very fast, after ss4 the average is 116 km/h and ss2 had 144 km/ as average.

Sad with Alen, he went well as long as he was in the game. Do we know what happened to him ?

[cyr]

retirement for alen and ligato ? http://www.cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?p=5040

[big_sw2000]

Meeke is flying, and the stages are very fast, after ss4 the average is 116 km/h and ss2 had 144 km/ as average.

Sad with Alen, he went well as long as he was in the game. Do we know what happened to him ?
Think Meeke is going to be tough to beat on any gravel round this year.
Looking foward to watching toniht on Eurosport

[wwbroe]

retirement for alen and ligato ? http://www.cronospeed.com.br/aovivo/?p=5040

Strange, because there is also Meeke on this list :( :confused: I think it is not correct this list of abandonos. ;)

[noel157]

Strange, because there is also Meeke on this list :( :confused: I think it is not correct this list of abandonos. ;)

Mistake, no longer on list.
From his blog - "Kris takes lead in Brazil, and fastest on all morning opening stages. Service now, no dramas with car or driver. very impressed with stages, not much cleaning, very wide and consistent grip levels. 3 stage repeated later about 15h00 Local time. Videos later in Day"

[Luis Pacheco]

Alen went off the road with little damages.

A funny episode with Kronos at the first fuel point after stage two.

In the absence of the team to supply the cars, Kronos were supplied with the help of Abarth and Fiat Brazil. :rolleyes:

[Sulland]

So alen punctured on 3, and went off on 4 is that correct ?

[HaCo]

So alen punctured on 3, and went off on 4 is that correct ?

On ircseries.com they say he hit a corner in a slow corner on 3 and broke his suspension. He said he would take it very easy on 4 just to get through...

Pitty.

[ZequeArgentina]

Unfortunatley it is confimed that Ligato not only suffered a puncture, but had to retire:

IRC site: "Ligato, who was for many years a frontrunner in the Production Car World Rally Championship, was running sixth overall on the Rally Internacional de Curitiba, having set fifth-fastest time on the opening three stages.

The puncture on SS4, which he did not stop and change, cost him a minute and a half so he dropped one place to sixth, behind Peugeot Belgium's Freddy Loix.

However, it soon became apparent that there was more far-reaching damage to his Mitsubishi when the car overheated on the road section. With a broken radiator, Ligato's rally is now over. "

Pitty, cause if he lost 1m 30s meant he was not far for finish, if he had stopped, with some 4 muntes to change wheel he would have been out of the battle also................

[Tom206wrc]

SS5 running ;)

[noel157]

Meeke wins again, 5 secs ahead of Freddy.

[Tom206wrc]

What happens ???? Times are loooong to come :mad:

[jonas_mcrae]

the timing site crashed...

[Tom206wrc]

the timing site crashed...



:confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Please news !!!! :(

[Luis Pacheco]

Ligato is out of the race.

[Tom206wrc]

Is the rally stopped or are the drivers still running in stages ??? :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php?option=com_ponygallery&func=watermark&id=5823&Itemid

[Sulland]

Did the Abarth crew fix Alens car ?

[Luis Pacheco]

Is the rally stopped or are the drivers still running in stages ??? :confused:

They are now on the seven stage.

[karlzoro]

Alen went off the road with little damages.

A funny episode with Kronos at the first fuel point after stage two.


In the absence of the team to supply the cars, Kronos were supplied with the help of Abarth and Fiat Brazil. :rolleyes:


:) Imagine: Citroën supplying Ford in WRC???
I hope that Meek kan keep the pace :s mokin:

Oh, by the way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC8vEJ9kTPU
I made a small video form Portugal 2008...I knwo it's a little bit late :D

[noel157]

Just got a call from a guy in service. Looks like Meeke took SS6 and 7 so leading going into day 2.
All unofficial of course.

[Tom206wrc]

Very great news for Meeke if confirmed :up:

[ZequeArgentina]

God news, they changethe time system, the one which collpased off, and the usual for reginal (CODASUR) and Argentinean site for times is now running under the official site.: http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/tempos.htm

[Luis Pacheco]

Meeke won both stages, is true.

He ends the day with 48s ahead of Basso and Vouilloz.

http://www.rallydecuritiba.com.br/tempos.htm

[Mirek]

Thanks, Basso is now second, nice battle with Vouilloz. Also very nice run from Alejandro Cancio. Meeke seems to be unstopable.

[noel157]

Thanks Zeque.

After Day 1:

Meeke 207 50.47.0
Basso Punto + 48.6
Vouilloz 207 + 48.9
Canico Evo +1.03.6
Loix 207 + 1.22.5
Galeano Evo +2.31.6

[Francisco]

Thanks for all the info you give, I live like 1000 km from curitiba. Paraguay, Asuncion, our driver Galeano is doing ok, for his first time in Curitiba in an EVO IX.

So see you tomorrow. I hope we will not have see more problems with timming.

[Forde-fotos]

Kris and Paul were really flying today, very fast stages, look very similar to Finland.

[J4MIE]

So looks like expected that Meeke is very competitive, but to finish first........

Shame for Alen, was hoping that at least he could get through the first day without trouble.

Also, good to see Abarth show some proper rallying spirit :up:

[Tom206wrc]

Also, good to see Abarth show some proper rallying spirit :up:



Yep thanks Abarth ;)

[Mirek]

Watched Eurosport a while a go. Both stages and scenery are wonderful!

[Almeidafoto]

Looks like Meeke is going really fast, as he did in Monte. Let's hope he doesn't do any rubbish...

off topic: I cannot afford to pay a cent, but is there anybody wiling to help me a bit. It's getting hard to keep my homepage updated with the increase on events flow.

[vino_93]

Woh, Meeke is ... very impressive.
How many stages will he win ? :p I hope 6 :p

[bluuford]

There was possibly some advantage not to be first on the road as well. Loix was much faster on the second passes. But still slower than Meeke.

[wwbroe]

There was possibly some advantage not to be first on the road as well. Loix was much faster on the second passes. But still slower than Meeke.

We will see today, because Meeke is now opening the stages i suppose. The stages today are a little less fast and more technical, so we will see what that gives in the timesheets. Two hours to go to the first stage of the day, wich is the longest of the rally and will be run only once. ;)

[bluuford]

IN IRC they are using the old WRC system where first 10 or 15 start in reverse order.. but in Brazil there are only 22 cars left.. So.. does anybody have starting order for today?

[wwbroe]

IN IRC they are using the old WRC system where first 10 or 15 start in reverse order.. but in Brazil there are only 22 cars left.. So.. does anybody have starting order for today?

It was like that in Monte Carlo, first ten in reversed order, but i don't know if it will be like that in other rally's. Last year there were no IRC rally's where they used this system. ;)

[Sulland]

when do they start today, in CET ?

[wwbroe]

when do they start today, in CET ?

First stage has started 17 mins ago, so i am waiting for first results to come in. ;)

[Mirek]

So, Meeke first on the road.

[FF-fan]

Basso 11 sec faster than Meeke.

[wwbroe]

Basso is 11 sec faster as Meeke, so road position seems to matter after all.

[alleskids]

were do you get the result from?

[wwbroe]

Cancio is loosing quiet a lot on stage 8, and not good time for Loix either. :(

[Sulland]

It is said to be much more loose gravel on todays stages, so it might be a bigger difference being first on the road today !

[tolis]

@ alleskids
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=416&stage=5905&category=&group=&section=

[Mirek]

Video from leg 1: http://www.wnproducoes.net/wnftp/Rally%20Internacional%20Curitiba/dia%2006-03/release06-03.wmv

[Mirek]

Where is Galeano? :(

[Luis Pacheco]

Second stage of the day won by Basso.

[wwbroe]

Loix is passing in front of Cancio and is now fourth overall, but way behind the other three. (one minute exactly).

[wwbroe]

Does anybody see stagetimes for stage 10, should have finished allready :( :confused:

[Mirek]

Alen out?

[Forde-fotos]

No times at all for SS10 ? :(

[hari]

]Alen out?

Alen rolls out

Abarth driver Anton Alen has rolled out of SS9 on the Curitiba Rally, whilst attempting to make up time lost following suspension damage yesterday . According to his father, Markku, the car went off the road and the damage makes it impossible to continue. "They are OK, but the car went off the road and I think there is some damage to the rear," said Markku Alen.

Source: http://www.ircseries.com

[Mirek]

Thank You, Alen is again very disappointing for me :(

[wotaguy]

loix now forth, stay in front kris :) oh and thanks for link to result site its fantastic e wrc results, ive been looking at stage times to al wrc rallies ive attended :D

[wwbroe]

loix now forth, stay in front kris :) oh and thanks for link to result site its fantastic e wrc results, ive been looking at stage times to al wrc rallies ive attended :D

Yes, but they don't have results of stage 10 neither. So does anybody have results of stage 10? :(

[wotaguy]

or stage nine :rolleyes:

[Luis Pacheco]

vouilloz won stage 10.
Meeke lost more 9s to Basso.

[wwbroe]

vouilloz won stage 10.
Meeke lost more 9s to Basso.

Hey Louis, where did you see these stage times?

[Luis Pacheco]

http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Cobertura-do-RICUR-Sabado/

[wwbroe]

http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/Cobertura-do-RICUR-Sabado/

Thank you Louis, it is working now in other site's also. :)

[wotaguy]

meeke just 22 secs lead now , basso fastest again, , stage time snow up

[wwbroe]

Could become a close fight for victory, with three stage's to go and half a minute for top three. ;)

[noel157]

Story behind Meeke's loss of time from his blog:

Kris lead has been cut this morning, running first on the road has been tough, but more of an issue was the refuel after SS1 was within 100m of stage end and the brakes started boiling, he had very little brakes for next two stages, and the hand brake went as he was using it to slow the car. Service now though so those problems should be sorted.
On the last stage SS10, he met 3 motorbikes and a child walking on road, the problem appears to be too big a gap between zero cars, and the main field. Hopefully will be addressed for last loop.
3 stages remaining, but they are all relatively short stages. Kris picked the hard tyre for this mornings loop, while the other drivers picked the soft option, but they were complaining of the tyres moving and concerned with tyre wear, so unsure wheather Kris will choose these for the last loop.
90% of the last loop of stages are re-run of this mornings, so hopefully the sweeping of the gravel will not be an issue

[Simmi]

I'm getting nervous now for Kris. Hopefully the road sweeping isn't as bad on the two repeat runs after service, but then there is a fairly long final stage that could make all the difference!

Also very poor performance from Alen. Surely with barely any entrants the priority is to bring it to the finish. Not go off twice.

[ZequeArgentina]

Here is another site for timming: http://www.codasur.org/resultados/curitiba_2009/MENU.HTM

Official southamerican Automotive Association (FIA of Southamerica)

[wwbroe]

Stage 11 should be live now. ;)

[wwbroe]

Meeke is setting fastest time on stage, and Vouilloz take second overall from Basso. ;)

[wotaguy]

what happened to basso then?, should be enough lead for kris, but last stage be a worry

[wwbroe]

Meeke and Basso both trough stage 12, Basso is 3.6 sec faster. ;)

[wwbroe]

Best time for Vouilloz again, extending his second place position to Basso.

[wwbroe]

Last stage of the rally should be live now. Thumbs up for Chris to take his first victory in IRC. :up:

[wwbroe]

Where does these f...cking stage times are? I cannot find them anywhere?

[HaCo]

Where does these f...cking stage times are? I cannot find them anywhere?

Wondering the same... pff. :)

Fingers crossed for Meeke and Basso!!! :)

[wwbroe]

Meeke wins, Vouilloz second and Basso third. ;)

[wwbroe]

Loix taking the lead in the championship, ahead of Basso, Meeke and Ogier, with Vouilloz in fifth position. ;)

[HaCo]

Yep, just saw it as well... good rally for Basso anyway. Fourth for Fast Freddy.

Championship (quick calc):
Loix 13
Basso 10
Vouilloz 10
Meeke 8


Will there be a Safari Rally this year?

[HaCo]

Great for Meeke and Peugeot Sport UK!

[pettersolberg29]

Yep, just saw it as well... good rally for Basso anyway. Fourth for Fast Freddy.

Championship (quick calc):
Loix 13
Basso 10
Vouilloz 10
Meeke 8


Will there be a Safari Rally this year?

Vouilloz 8
Meeke 10

;)

[alleskids]

Why is loix misisng fromthe results?

[wwbroe]

Vouilloz 8
Meeke 10

;)

And Ogier also ten points remember Monte Carlo. ;)

[alleskids]

Loix is missing from the eWRC results :( . So
Meeke 10
Ogier 10
Basso 10
Loix 8
Vouilloz 8

[wwbroe]

Loix is missing from the eWRC results :( . So
Meeke 10
Ogier 10
Basso 10
Loix 8
Vouilloz 8

I don't know where you are getting this from, because in my results he is there, and leading the championship. :D

[alleskids]

My mistake, on the first click of the results Loix was missing. Sorry
Loix 13
Meek 10
Basso 10
Ogier 10
Vouilloz 8
Alen 0

[wotaguy]

really pleased for kris, great win, this is going to be a great championship this year :D

[Sulland]

Congratulations to Meeke for the first win in IRC !

For the championship I am a bit sorry that Basso lost 2nd, and Alen could not fight till the end - Abarth may need to get in a third very quick driver - Call Brynildsen or Mikkelsen !! :-)

Looking forward to getting Skoda back in the fight, and hopefully Proton amd Polo also soon !

[MJW]

Abarth may need to get in a third very quick driver - Call Brynildsen or Mikkelsen !! :-)

Or Chris Atkinson..........

[N.O.T]

Great Performance by the brit...he managed to be fast and on the road this time...hope the trend continues.

[J4MIE]

Game on ;)

[Sulland]

Or Chris Atkinson..........

Not a bad idea, or maybe Duval !

[urabus-denoS2000]

Or for an Italian team,Galli!!!! (although he doesn't like the S2000 formula)

[bassist]

Fantastic Kris/Paul - great result. your in the frame now, and shows that Monte wasn`t a flash in the pan! As far as I can see your in the box seat for the future, and with all the current debate regarding S2000/WRC 2010, you cold be in the right championship, at the right time. Keep the shoe in!! Sarnau.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Just going through the photo gallery on IRCseries.com
And the photos taken form the rally look similar to Rally Australia!

But great shots and nice job Meeke!

[Torsen]

tv production sucked...

[HaCo]

Vouilloz 8
Meeke 10

;)

Missed thatone, even Better :)

[Allyc85]

Get in :D :D Brilliant job by Kris to bring it on home after showing his brilliant pace on day one. Hopefully he and the team can keep this going for the rest of the season and get that title :D

[ProRally]

tv production sucked...

Won't be like Monte Carlo every time :D :D

[Mirek]

Live coverage was planned from most atractive rallys only.

[HaCo]

Wasn't it planned to drive on the WTCC track as well? With gravel tires that could have been spectacular...

[pucky54]

Wasn't it planned to drive on the WTCC track as well? With gravel tires that could have been spectacular...

http://fiawtcc.com/html/gallery/img/gallery/foto/1_CCH_0207.jpghttp://fiawtcc.com/html/gallery/img/gallery/foto/1_CCH_0207.jpg

[jonas_mcrae]

wow, nice, any more pics? maybe a link?

[GigiGalliNo1]

http://www.ircseries.com/html/gallery_V3Details.asp?nome=Rally Curitiba&id=3

[kalkmann]

wow, nice, any more pics? maybe a link?

All photos, exclusive SS videos and interviews collected in Rally Internacional de Curitiba: http://www.mundorally.com.br/index.php/200903099735/IRC-ESPECIAL-RICUR-Todos-os-videos-e-fotos-da-etapa-brasileira.html

[jonas_mcrae]

cool thanks
I cant be sure (I havent been there) but those brazillian stages look really nice kindda remind me Australia...
They seem to be very fast as well, someone else here said average speeds were very high! well done organizers!

[alleskids]

The Rally Curtiba will again be in the IRC in 2010.

[HenryM]

good, I think I will visit curitiba in 2010!