Rally Norway 2009

[SubaruNorway]

PG needs a new co driver though since Jonas Andersson can't get off work, so pace might not be so good with a new one if he starts at all.

[Mirek]

Finni: I think that it's better not to compare anything with Škoda factory results. Those were not just about car and driver...

[pettersolberg29]

No hard feelings, it's only a sport BUT we shall see. Bon Appétit.

Obviously no offence was intended! We certainly shall see, and I pray that I'm wrong as a Petter win would make my year!

Finni - the facts are that the Xsara is worse than the C4 otherwise Citroen wouldn't have changed. IMO the Xsara is about as good as last years Subaru, so suddenly expecting wins from Petter in a car whic he's only driven twice in tests is a bit optomistic. But, if anyone can do it Petter can - just not yet, and I dont think this year. 2010 is Petter's year, and he's admitted it himself. He's concnetarting on 2010, and just maintaining his skill this year.

[SubaruNorway]

Finni - the facts are that the Xsara is worse than the C4 otherwise Citroen wouldn't have changed.

I doubt Citroen marketing appartment would let them still use the Xsara though :p
Wasen't the C4 introduced in 05 or 06?

[Mirek]

http://rallyzone.cz/pictures/photo/2009/02/07/12340086601.jpg

[pettersolberg29]

Looks brilliant! Thanks Mirek

[Torsen]

wow... thanks for that pic! gorgious Skoda S2000! WAR SANDELL!

[ProRally]

Yes, really looks nice...
Lets see if they can run 2 Fabia S2000 in PWRC ?
Any more news that Nasser would drive 2nd car ?

[Mirek]

ProRally: The problem is with delivery dates. For now no chance to get new Fabia for Nasser before autumn (he wanted his own team). Maybe he can make some deal with some team which gets it sooner...

Testing started :)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_xgC_3V7NNoo/SY2QuH6JRUI/AAAAAAAAAS4/W9lHroCyNZA/s1600-h/image-upload-126-792042.jpg

[noel157]

Obviously no offence was intended! We certainly shall see, and I pray that I'm wrong as a Petter win would make my year!

Finni - the facts are that the Xsara is worse than the C4 otherwise Citroen wouldn't have changed. IMO the Xsara is about as good as last years Subaru, so suddenly expecting wins from Petter in a car whic he's only driven twice in tests is a bit optomistic. But, if anyone can do it Petter can - just not yet, and I dont think this year. 2010 is Petter's year, and he's admitted it himself. He's concnetarting on 2010, and just maintaining his skill this year.

Don't get too hung up on the Petter winning thing, I don't think anybody is realistically suggesting that. But I, and a few others, are convinced that he and the car will be competitive and a top 3 or 4 result is possible.

[Mirek]

From Sandell's blog: "We have now driven the car and our first feeling is very good! We will do some adjustments in order to try and find the perfect setup. We are two happy boys today!"

[pettersolberg29]

Don't get too hung up on the Petter winning thing, I don't think anybody is realistically suggesting that. But I, and a few others, are convinced that he and the car will be competitive and a top 3 or 4 result is possible.


This debate has been rather pointless then, as I agree 4th or 5th is a possibility. Mainly due to the lack of good cars and drivers, but still Petter is good enough for that.

My main points were against people saying Petter will win or challenge for the win - that's very unlikely unless all four factory drivers retire!

[JFL]

I guess, beating the s14's is a big goal for him... And if he steps on the podium, or even on top. That will be written in the historybooks...

[Salist]

]http://rallyzone.cz/pictures/photo/2009/02/07/12340086601.jpg

Thanks Mirek!
Very nice livery! :)

[Mirek]

I don't like it. To me completely blue car is not livery...

[ProRally]

]ProRally: The problem is with delivery dates. For now no chance to get new Fabia for Nasser before autumn (he wanted his own team). Maybe he can make some deal with some team which gets it sooner...



The problem of success, car looks good and works good, so they can't keep up making them...
Looks that S2000 is the future

[Mirek]

Sandell in video :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfTmudO8wTU

[Halvis]

It's snowing like h*ll today, the snowbank will be substansially higher, I think. Even better!

[Viking]

Pirelli trucks stuck at the harbour in Oslo, reason is not good enough tyres and snowchains on the trucks :laugh:

http://www.tv2nyhetene.no/innenriks/article2550309.ece

[Finni]

I would be surprised if Petter is outpaced by anyone outside of the three fastest driver (Loeb and Ford boys). I am not even sure that Petter will be outpaced by anyone.

I am wondering why this "pettersolberg" wannabe is thinking that Petter is no more parallel with the fastest drivers. At least if that would be true then there is no point to present himself as "pettersolberg29"

[urabus-denoS2000]

Why are you so harsh to pettersolberg29????
Dont attack him ;)

[Slipzen]

Does anyone know if there will be any radio station sending live comments and results to the spectators out in the forests? Rally Radio on WRC is good but not available when sitting in a snowbank :)

[RS]

]Sandell in video :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfTmudO8wTU

Nice vid, be interesting to see how Sandell gets on with the Fabia vs. 207, he seems to like it.

[SubaruNorway]

Does anyone know if there will be any radio station sending live comments and results to the spectators out in the forests? Rally Radio on WRC is good but not available when sitting in a snowbank :)

Yes there will be Norwegian radio, they will even use a helicopter just as on the NRC rounds ;)

[Tomi]

Yes there will be Norwegian radio, they will even use a helicopter just as on the NRC rounds ;)

Are they brodcasting on internet as well?

[pettersolberg29]

I would be surprised if Petter is outpaced by anyone outside of the three fastest driver (Loeb and Ford boys). I am not even sure that Petter will be outpaced by anyone.

I am wondering why this "pettersolberg" wannabe is thinking that Petter is no more parallel with the fastest drivers. At least if that would be true then there is no point to present himself as "pettersolberg29"

No need to get all angry! I'm not a P.Solberg wannabe, I'm just a fan of his since he started rallying in 1999, at least in the WRC. And you are not understanding my comments. Petter is at least as good as the other top drivers, or even better, but NOT IN A CITROEN XSARA.

Give them all the same car and Petter would rival Loeb everywhere except tarmac. Thanks urabus-deno for your kind words ;)

[Sulland]

Are they brodcasting on internet as well?

Yes they will be, and I guess they will cooperate with WRC Radio !!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Thanks urabus-deno for your kind words ;)

No problem my friend ;)

[J4MIE]

Petter is at least as good as the other top drivers, or even better, but NOT IN A CITROEN XSARA.

Why do you not think the Xsara is such a good car? :confused:

[pettersolberg29]

I dont know all the technicalities, but it is old and other drivers like Sohl and Galli failed to compete well in it when it wasn't as old in comparison to the other cars around it.

[Slipzen]

PG needs a new co driver though since Jonas Andersson can't get off work, so pace might not be so good with a new one if he starts at all.

Hi SubaruNorway. Where have you got this info from? PGs homepage says nothing about it....

[Salist]

Somebody has detailed maps from the special stages?

[jarleb]

Norwegian tvchanel (TV Norge) was out when Petter Solberg tested his new car this weekend. http://www.tvnorge.no/Aktuelt/?clipid=2323

[alleskids]

It is even on the portuguese internetsite: http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=stories&op=view&fokey=as.stories/65806
"PG Andersson with new navigator in the Norway The former-pilot of the Suzuki, PG Andersson will go to count on a new copilot in the next Rali to the Norway, in which he will go to pilot a Skoda Fabia WRC. Given the non-availability of its habitual navigator, Jonas Andersson, the right place of the car I check will be busy for the Swedish Anders Fredriksson"

[SubaruNorway]

Hi SubaruNorway. Where have you got this info from? PGs homepage says nothing about it....

From Jonas Andersson's facebook

[Slipzen]

From Jonas Andersson's facebook

That might be considered as a reliable source ;)

[Iskald]

Somebody has detailed maps from the special stages?

To get detailed maps you need to buy a three day rallypass, which includes the rallymagazine Fire and Ice.

[PLuto]

Some actual pictures from today in Norway:

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090208/Norway_before_01.jpg
http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090208/Norway_before_04.jpg
http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090208/Norway_before_07.jpg

More pictures: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=94

[Viridian Black]

looks beautiful. shud make a huge snowman out of the huge ball of snow in the first pic :)

[jbmarcus21]

The Google Earth Map for Norway Rally is now available !!!

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/norvege09.htm

;)

[Salist]

The Google Earth Map for Norway Rally is now available !!!

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/norvege09.htm

;)

Thanks Jérémie!
Nice job. :)

[Barreis]

Looks beautiful..

[rallyemotions]

The Google Earth Map for Norway Rally is now available !!!

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/norvege09.htm

;)

Great feature!
A small hint: If you copy the shortcut to .kmz or .kml and paste it into the google maps "search" field, you'll be able to see the information without Google Earth... :) Those kml files must be on server, not desktop computer.

[Koppomsbo]

, the right place of the car I check will be busy for the Swedish Anders Fredriksson"

can confirm, Jonas didnt get free from his new job and Anders get the chance to get into the seat.

Anders Fredriksson has been codriver of swedish Group N driver Hans Erik Weng. He has did at least two WRC events in spain, dont know how many in sweden


Acctualy Anders was the first who sat beside PG in his first test with the Suzuki :)

[Viking]

Weather forecast update (Hamar)

Recce
http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Hedmark/Hamar/Hamar~523821/

Race :up:
http://www.yr.no/place/Norway/Hedmark/Hamar/Hamar~523821/weekend.html

[J4MIE]

I am so pleased about the conditions, it was only one year ago that Sweden was possibly going to be cancelled due to lack of snow, I am so glad it is not like that again :up:

Hoping for it to be very cold but sunny so easier to take photos ;)

If any of you fancy meeting at some point then PM me for my mobile number, DonJippo will be driving so it will be down to him where we go :p :

[Daniel]

I am so pleased about the conditions, it was only one year ago that Sweden was possibly going to be cancelled due to lack of snow, I am so glad it is not like that again :up:

Hoping for it to be very cold but sunny so easier to take photos ;)

If any of you fancy meeting at some point then PM me for my mobile number, DonJippo will be driving so it will be down to him where we go :p :

You've been away from home for too long :p I went out to the Alwen yesterday and you could have run a winter rally on the gravel roads with studs and all..... there's been that much snow :D

[J4MIE]

Yes Daniel I could get used to this being away from home lark ;)

[swordsman]

Okay, hope this is not considered spam, but after yesterdays talk with Patrik Sandell I followed up with a talk to PG Andersson today after two days of testing on Finnskogen. The interview was done an hour ago and you can read it on the blog.

[FabiaFan]

Okay, hope this is not considered spam, but after yesterdays talk with Patrik Sandell I followed up with a talk to PG Andersson today after two days of testing on Finnskogen. The interview was done an hour ago and you can read it on the blog.
Keep on interviewing!

[dimviii]

thanks swordman ;)

[MartijnS]

We leave tomorrow.
I don't think there are any tests tomorrow or wednesday? If so, thanks for the info.. ;)

[Sulland]

Okay, hope this is not considered spam, but after yesterdays talk with Patrik Sandell I followed up with a talk to PG Andersson today after two days of testing on Finnskogen. The interview was done an hour ago and you can read it on the blog.

Your Blog is good, keep it updated !
I like the posts where you look at rally from a different angle, and comment yourself !

[jarleb]

One of the cars from Rally Norway has crashed with a tuck on one of the stages. None of the drivers were involved.

Read about it in a norwegian newspaper:
http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/artikkel.php?artid=540717

A bad transelated versjon here:
http://translate.google.no/translate?prev=hp&hl=no&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vg.no%2Fnyheter%2Finnenriks%2Fa rtikkel.php%3Fartid%3D540717&sl=no&tl=en

[J4MIE]

I am so so so looking forward to this event, been a long time since I was so excited about going to a rally.

Donjippo remember to bring the Minttu!! :bounce:

Have a great rally everybody :up:

[nigelpugh7]

Hi Guys,

I am new to this forum so wanted to say hi.

But I also wanted to let you know that a group of four of us are traveling from the UK this Thursday to Rally Norway.

We have been traveling to WRC events for over twenty years and have been to the Rally Sweden for the last 5 years.

We have purchased the Full Rally Pass, the fire and ice program and maps, and tickets to the Super Special on Thursday night.

However I would like some advice from you guys on the best stages to see on Friday and Saturday.

We would be happy to meet up with any of you guys whilst we are there, for beers and perhaps to meet on the stages somewhere too.

Thanks in advance and I hope to meet some new friends whilst we are in Norway this year.

Cheers,

Nige.

Nigel Pugh

[Mirek]

We have some news from Tarabus and Trunkát.

During the test for Norway Bernardo Sousa had crash when he hit a tree. It's uncertain if the car will be repaired in time.

Tarabus and Arai were off in snowbank in the same place...

[swordsman]

After Sandell two days ago and PG yesterday, I thought it was time for Patrik Flodin... Can you call this a tradition? Anyway, you can read a fresh interview with Patrik Flodin on the blog now :) As usual, made an hour ago...

[muscrae]

Prime Minister of Norway Jens Stoltenberg will tear round the track with five-time World Rally Champion Sebastien Loeb in a Citroen C4 hybrid WRC car when Rally Norway opens at Bjerkebanen in Oslo this Thursday 12 February.http://rally.racing-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/090210172112.shtml

Great news, can't wait for the promotional debut of Citroen C4 hybrid WRC :)

[TheFlyingTuga]

]
During the test for Norway Bernardo Sousa had crash when he hit a tree. It's uncertain if the car will be repaired in time.

How do you know that Bernardo crash? Portuguese website http://www.ralismadeira.com just said that yesterday Bernardo went off and get stuck in a snow bank!

Cheers mate

[Mirek]

Daniel Trunkát, Tarabus's co-driver said that. He said the car suffered serious damage.

[PLuto]

How do you know that Bernardo crash? Portuguese website http://www.ralismadeira.com just said that yesterday Bernardo went off and get stuck in a snow bank!

Cheers mate

It is info from Daniel Trunkat, codriver of Jaromir Tarabus.

[Viking]

Henning is out of his recce car checking the snow banks :)

From his blog

http://s3.amazonaws.com/kontroll_panel_3/images/uploads/8/1/a4f4222a3d94ba512eefd510772b3e/custom.jpg

He also says that his two mechanics who had the accident yesterday is doing ok. :up:

[Micke_VOC]

Time to go, We are driving towards Norway today.

Hope to have a really nice weekend, if any forumers are there we have a black Citroen C-Crosser jeep with Rally Norway stickers on the rear door windows.....

[scirocco]

This is what I`m going to do

Starts whith SS2 Opaker.
There is a great place neatby the end of the stage where you got flat out for about 400 meters and goes over a crest in 5 or 6 right and than 400 meters straigt agien. If you want to see speed this is a good place.
For access this place we will park the car on side roads by the main road that goes by the end of the stage. There should be a junktion about 2.3 km from the end of the stage where you can start walking into the stage. Then it would be about 2 km walk in start-direction from the juction.

SS5 Konmgsvinger
The best place to see this stage is nearby the horce track. There is a couple of fast places after the horcetrack, but there maybe be a little bit crowded here since the stage is nearby Kongsvinger city etc. You should not go into the end of the stage. There is not fast at all rather tricky and a lot of downhill, but the problem is that there will be closed for spectatores since there is no space for parking in that area.

SS7 Finnskogen
I Think there might be a lot of people in the place where Iskald mentioned, but there is a nice place where it goes downhill in a couple of sweet turns in medum/fast speed.
If you want to get a place alone you can go south in a juction nearby this place for about 6-7 km. Then you got to option on this road. both are okey, not wery fast but this stage is not wery fast anyway.

SS9 Kirkenær
You might reach this stage as well if you want to se the WRC cars most times or you can stay at SS7 and see all the cars. SS9 is hell of a lot of drunk people anyway, Your choise...

[Viking]

Some fun graphics were you among other things can “drive trough” the stages.

http://bil.glomdalen.no/rally/

[dimviii]

Ostberg and Grondal are on Continental tyres? :eek:

[JFL]

Yeah! Studless! ;)

[bf1_IRL]

I thought that all 4 wheel drive cars had to use Pirellis :?:

[dimviii]

@JFL and what about in ss they have to use studed tyres? :rolleyes:

[swordsman]

No one on snowchains?

[Xsara Fan]

First photo of Novikov`s car:

http://www.norsk-rally.com/images/stories/img_3568.jpg

[VFTS]

First photo of Novikov`s car:

http://www.norsk-rally.com/images/stories/img_3568.jpg


Yes, and here you have the other fotos from the norwegian site: http://www.norsk-rally.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6020:rallystemning-fra-vikingskipet-mbilder

[JFL]

@JFL and what about in ss they have to use studed tyres? :rolleyes:
They can use chains, or a can of of spray-chain!. :) Its available at every gas-station and car shop in the area, so it should be a problem! :) ;)

[KKS]

Wow. E-Art design continue from N4 car

[PLuto]

Few actual photos from our japanese colleague directly from Norway, only in low-res: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=95

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090211/thumb_Norway_10.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090211/thumb_Norway_21.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090211/thumb_Norway_07.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090211/thumb_Norway_38.jpg

[pettersolberg29]

Anyone know if there will be any loose or new snow on the stages come Friday?

[JFL]

The weather forecast has not reported any more snow. But the stages Opaker(ss2/6), and the other near Konsvinger was reported by the drivers as very loose, and they were afraid that the gravel would appear before the second run!

[pettersolberg29]

As my nick suggests, I'm wondering how much the conditions will suit Petter starting later.

[JFL]

Not a lot i guess.. Clean nice roads!

[pettersolberg29]

Shame...!

[Ghostwalker]

the latest weather forecasts says that its going to be cold the entire weekend except for around midday on Saturday and Sunday when its expected just to be a few degrees below zero.

[bluuford]

Weather forecast:

Thursday: tonight -12..15 degrees
day- -3..-8 degrees, mostly sunny, dry
night. -15..-20 degrees, mostly dry, possibility of very light snow around 2 hours after midnight (only 1 cm).

Friday: Bright and sunny, bring your sunglasses with you! temperature -7..-10 degrees, during the night -15..-18 degrees. very cold wind from the north.

Saturday:
cold and some clouds, temperature between -10..-12 degrees. during the night -20..-25 degrees.

Sunday: More clouds, less wind. Cannot say anything about snowfall, possibility is there but very, very low.
temperature -12..-15 degrees.

[MHjerpe]

God morning.. so it's shakedown.. anyone there ? (at the shake ?)

[swordsman]

God morning.. so it's shakedown.. anyone there ? (at the shake ?)

Some guy reported in a swedish forum that it's -27 there. Damn, suddenly I'm glad I stayed at home :)

[J.Lindstroem]

Some guy reported in a swedish forum that it's -27 there. Damn, suddenly I'm glad I stayed at home :)

What swedish forum? I didnt know that there where any swedish rally forums? You can PM me with a link if you want Swordsman!

[MHjerpe]

It's actually more like a guestbook.. :) (motorsportivärmland click on "Svenskt RallyForum" )

[Viking]

From an Norwegian blog

http://23799.vgb.no/files/2009/02/54df7_Bilde380.jpg

[swordsman]

From an Norwegian blog

http://23799.vgb.no/files/2009/02/54df7_Bilde380.jpg

Cool, link? Always nice to read rally blogs :)

[Viking]

http://23799.vgb.no/2009/02/

[Viking]

Some Driver/Teams blogging from the rally :up:

Patrik Sandell
http://www.patriksandell.com/9603.mms_blog.html

Petter Solberg
http://www.pettersolberg.com/html/?lang_pref=en

Henning Solberg
http://teamexpert.no/

Anders Grøndal
http://28037.vgb.no/2009/02/

Sveinung Bieltvedt
http://www.toolsrallyteam.no/screen/blogg

Eyvind Brynhildsen
http://28412.vgb.no/2009/02/

[Woodeye]

The weather looks really cold!

[Viking]

The weather looks really cold!

Global warming is not working this year ;)

[MHjerpe]

Global warming is not working this year ;)

Yeah who do we contact ? Custumer support ?

[Slipzen]

Cool, link? Always nice to read rally blogs :)

It seems as the marshals also are sponsored by Expert :)

Heading for Kongsvinger two hours from now

[Koppomsbo]

Guess that the conditions att SD will be cold and perfect :)

[Sturla]

http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown-1.pdf

Loeb is on fire

[MHjerpe]

Updated... http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown-2.pdf

[teufel]

http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown-1.pdf

Loeb is on fire

he's no. 1. in my pickems :)

[jonas_mcrae]

not a bad time for petter

[J.Lindstroem]

So....

1. S. Loeb, ..........1:59,3
2. D. Sordo, ........1:59,8
3. H. Solberg, ......2:02,1
4. P. Solberg, ......2:02,4
5. M. Wilson, .......2:02,8
6. U. Aava, .........2:03,0
7. P. Andersson, ..2:03,3
8. M. Hirvonen, ...2:03,8
9. M. Wilson, ......2:04,4
10. S. Ogier, ........2:04,6
11. C. Rautenbach,.. 2:05,0
12. J. Latvala, .......2:06,8
13. A. Gröndal, ......2:07.0
14. E. Novikov, ......2:07,8
15. P. Markensteijn, 2:13,8
16. E. Boland, ........2:17,3
17. M. Östberg, ......2:30,7

[J.Lindstroem]

I whould like to see how sandells and Sousas S2000 cars are standing in comparision to the slower of the Wrc cars in the SD. I guess he is somewhere in between Novikov and Markensteijn.

[pino]

So....

1. S. Loeb, ..........1:59,3
2. D. Sordo, ........1:59,8
3. H. Solberg, ......2:02,1
4. P. Solberg, ......2:02,4
5. M. Wilson, .......2:02,8
6. U. Aava, .........2:03,0
7. P. Andersson, ..2:03,3
8. M. Hirvonen, ...2:03,8
9. M. Wilson, ......2:04,4
10. S. Ogier, ........2:04,6
11. C. Rautenbach,.. 2:05,0
12. J. Latvala, .......2:06,8
13. A. Gröndal, ......2:07.0
14. E. Novikov, ......2:07,8
15. P. Markensteijn, 2:13,8
16. E. Boland, ........2:17,3
17. M. Östberg, ......2:30,7

These cannot be final times, I am sure both Latvala, Hirvonen, and Østberg will run more than just 1 lap ;)

[J.Lindstroem]

These cannot be final times, I am sure both Latvala, Hirvonen, and Østberg will run more than just 1 lap ;)

haha no maybe not but i was very eager :D :D

[Mirek]

Updated again: http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_3.pdf

[MHjerpe]

v3 http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_3.pdf

[J.Lindstroem]

I am impressed by the time of PG Andersson. 4 seconds adrift from Loeb, how long is the SD stage?

[MHjerpe]

"14.2 Shakedown Venue
The Shakedown will take place in the Hamar area. The length of the shakedown stage is 3.35
km."

[pino]

What's wrong with Østberg, I expect him to be faster then that !

[eppel]

http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_4.pdf

[MHjerpe]

and new again... :) http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_4.pdf

[Halvis]

Petter pretty good, considering his limited experience with the car. Hopefully, he can gain even more speed when the proper stages begin. Also good from Sordo and PG, what's happened to Østberg, I don't know, but it must be something...

Butr again, it's only SD.

[chryby]

1. LOEB (Citroën C4) 1:59.3 min
2. HIRVONEN (Ford Focus RS WRC 08) 1:59.7 min
3. SORDO (Citroën C4) 1:59.8 min
4. LATVALA (Ford Focus RS WRC 08) 2:00.2 min
5. SOLBERG (Citröen Xsara) 2:01.1 min
6. SOLBERG (Ford Focus RS WRC 08) 2:02.1 min
7. WILSON (Ford Focus RS WRC 08) 2:02.8 min
8. AAVA (Ford Focus RS WRC 08) 2:03.0 min
9. ANDERSSON (Škoda Fabia WRC) 2:03.3 min
10. GRØNDAL (Subaru Impreza WRC) 2:03.7 min
11. OGIER (Citroen C4) 2:03.9 min
12. RAUTENBACH (Citroen C4) 2:05.0 min
13. NOVIKOV (Citroen C4) 2:07.8 min
14. SANDELL (Škoda Fabia Super 2000) 2:09.7 min
15. MIKKELSEN (Subaru WRX STi) 2:11.0 min
16. BRYNILDSEN (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:13.7 min
17. PROKOP (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:15.1 min
18. BOLAND (Subaru WRX STi) 2:17.3 min
19. VAN MERKSTEIJN (Ford Focus RS WRC 07) 2:18.8 min
20. SEMERÁD (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:18.8 min
21. ARAUJO (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:20.1 min
22. ØSTBERG (Subaru Impreza WRC 2008) 2:21.0 min
23. VAN MERKSTEIJN (Ford Focus RS WRC 06) 2:21.3 min
24. NEIKSANS (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:42.8 min
25. LINARI (Subaru Impreza WRX STi) 2:53.8 min
26. ARAI (Subaru Impreza WRX STi) 3:15.2 min
27. FLODIN (Subaru Impreza WRX STi) 3:37.9 min
28. TARABUS (Fiat Grande Punto S2000) 3:53.9 min

[MHjerpe]

Petter and PG should get backings from WRC.. :) as it now is fun to watch again.. at least something happens..

[Mirek]

http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_5.pdf

Update

[MHjerpe]

#5 http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_5.pdf

[J.Lindstroem]

Ah forget it you can see with your own eyes.... haha

[PLuto]

Reduced order of shakedown: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7953

[Viking]

Good SD from URT so far :)

[jonas_mcrae]

Mikkelsen and Flodin proving that N14 can be head to head with S2000. Could be a tip for Subaru to push its IRC participation further.

[Sturla]

Mikkelsen and Flodin proving that N14 can be head to head with S2000. Could be a tip for Subaru to push its IRC participation further.

Well we will see tomorrow, keep in mind that the tourqe on the n14 is much higher than the s2000. The SD is a very short stage, the start has much to say.

[Mirek]

I think that one shakedown on snow and new wide Pirelli tyres is too speciffic to bring some comparission especialy for IRC which is very different (for example completely different tyres developed for S2000 use compared to WRC ones).

[chryby]

first pictures from shake:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=485&au=0

[MHjerpe]

http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_6.pdf

[Halvis]

first pictures from shake:
http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=485&au=0

Looks fantastic, but cold! The weather prognosis says a little "warmer" tomorrow, just -5 or so in the day. Hope it is correct, 'cause I'm gonna go tomorrow!

[MHjerpe]

PG had an blown Turbo incident on the SD.. but it's fixed.. (swedish newspaper)
http://www.vf.se/Sport/Varmland/Problem-for-PG-pa-shakedown-090212.aspx

[Viking]

From SD

Bad start for Henning who was furius because damper setups was nothing like he ordered, he started too adjust them himself and had a “crises meeting” with MW!

Petter said shakedown went ok, car suits him well, just lacking some engine power on the straits.

Anders and Mads were complaining about steering and traction (what did they expect ;) )

[bluuford]

No/Driver/Control/Reason/Penalty
31/Martin PROKOP (CZ)/SS 1/STEWARDS DECISION/5:00min
what is the reason?

[Halvis]

From SD

Bad start for Henning who was furius because damper setups was nothing like he ordered, he started too adjust them himself and had a “crises meeting” with MW!

Petter said shakedown went ok, car suits him well, just lacking some engine power on the straits.

Anders and Mads were complaining about steering and traction (what did they expect ;) )

Everything as we expected in advance then:

Henning = Not allowed to win (by Ford/MW)
Petter = Not allowed to win (by Citroen)

Adapta: Bad car (from Subaru)

;)

[Mirek]

No/Driver/Control/Reason/Penalty
31/Martin PROKOP (CZ)/SS 1/STEWARDS DECISION/5:00min
what is the reason?

Where is it written?

[Koppomsbo]

[quote="Viking"]From SD


Petter said shakedown went ok, car suits him well, just lacking some engine power on the straits.

QUOTE]


Come on, already crying over the car... This time he at least to use car

[Mirek]

Now I can see it on wrc.com, maybe some technical problem or speeding in recce? We'll see...

Interesting photo:
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2009/norsko/mravenecz/mrav17.jpg

[HaCo]

Mikkelsen and Flodin proving that N14 can be head to head with S2000. Could be a tip for Subaru to push its IRC participation further.

Výsledky shakedownu Rally Norway 2009 - PWRC:
1. MIKKELSEN (Subaru WRX STi) 2:08.8 min
2. FLODIN (Subaru Impreza WRX STi) 2:09.0 min
3. SANDELL (Škoda Fabia Super 2000) 2:09.7 min
4. PROKOP (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:11.1 min
5. NEIKSANS (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:11.8 min
6. SOUSA (Fiat Grande Punto S2000) 2:13.2 min
7. SEMERÁD (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:13.3 min
8. BRYNILDSEN (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:13.7 min
9. ARAUJO (Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX) 2:14.1 min
10. TARABUS (Fiat Grande Punto S2000) 2:15.4 min
11. ARAI (Subaru Impreza WRX STi) 2:16.4 min
12. LINARI (Subaru Impreza WRX STi) 2:23.1 min


From here: http://www.rally-mania.cz/index.php?vypisVse=detail&startpos=0&id=6657

[Mirek]

P3 drivers didn't have chance to do write pacenotes before shakedown. Therefore some of them had only few fast drives. For example Semerád made only one...

Nice video from shakedown:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/getvideo.php?id=375

Arai changed engine, that penalty may be his, noit Prokop's...

[Viridian Black]

MHjerpe http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2...wn_order_6.pdf (http://static.rallynorway.no/files/2009/RN/Shakedown_order_6.pdf)nice consistency from petter.

[KKS]

at rally Norway site SSS1 Oslo start at 20:00 (GMT+1) (show start at 19:00), but live should start 23:30 (GMT) Where bug?

[PzP]

]P3 drivers didn't have chance to do write pacenotes before shakedown. Therefore some of them had only few fast drives. For example Semerád made only one...

Nice video from shakedown:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/getvideo.php?id=375

Arai changed engine, that penalty may be his, noit Prokop's...

You can find this video on youtube - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbB3H3ZxHsw

[tolis]

at rally Norway site SSS1 Oslo start at 20:00 (GMT+1) (show start at 19:00), but live should start 23:30 (GMT) Where bug?

The official site doesn't show the stage live, but after it, there will be on wrc.com some videos of SS1.

[Rallyper]

]P3 drivers didn't have chance to do write pacenotes before shakedown. Therefore some of them had only few fast drives. For example Semerád made only one...

Nice video from shakedown:
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/getvideo.php?id=375

Arai changed engine, that penalty may be his, noit Prokop's...

Mirek/ thx for a good vid from SD!!

[pucky54]

is there a norwegian tv station that shows SS1 live on web?

[KKS]

The official site doesn't show the stage live, but after it, there will be on wrc.com some videos of SS1.

sadly :(

[René]

Don't worry you will be able to see the rally on live here :cool:

From 19h00

http://www.nrksport.no/motorsport/rally-vm/1.6475928

[Karukera]

Everything as we expected in advance then:

Henning = Not allowed to win (by Ford/MW)
Petter = Not allowed to win (by Citroen)

Adapta: Bad car (from Subaru)

;)

You're too much clever to believe in those so called plots. ;-) Leave that for the slow freddy flemmish paranoid fans.

[pettersolberg29]

Don't worry you will be able to see the rally on live here :cool:

From 19h00

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/hedmark_og_oppland/1.6477255

Thanks. I have been getting conflicting facts - does SS1 start at 18.00 or 19.00 English Time? The confusion I think is because of the opening show which start an hour before.

[J.Lindstroem]

Thanks. I have been getting conflicting facts - does SS1 start at 18.00 or 19.00 English Time? The confusion I think is because of the opening show which start an hour before.

It must på 18.00 english time since the norweigan site speaks about 19.00, off course refering to the local time...

[swordsman]

Don't worry you will be able to see the rally on live here :cool:

From 19h00

http://www.nrksport.no/motorsport/rally-vm/1.6475928

Will the link be up at 19:00 or? I can see the page, but not a live stream link...

[René]

Thanks. I have been getting conflicting facts - does SS1 start at 18.00 or 19.00 English Time? The confusion I think is because of the opening show which start an hour before.

SS1 will start 19.00 English time, but the live will start since 18.00 ;)

[pettersolberg29]

SS1 will start 19.00 English time, but the live will start since 18.00 ;)

Thanks for the clarification

[J.Lindstroem]

i cant get it working? is it working for anyone?

[tolis]

It doesn't work either.

[pettersolberg29]

Wont be working until 19.04, when the stage starts.

[Almeidafoto]

Nice performance for Portuguese drivers, ending both amongst the top-ten in shakedown

[Berzs]

Wont be working until 19.04, when the stage starts.
the stage starts at 20:04 Local time (CET), but the info in the linked site says, that the streaming will start from 19:00 (which is also Local time, as far as I understand)

[J.Lindstroem]

Yes. And the local time is now 19.14. I assume you have to be in Norway to make it work...

[Miika]

J-M taking it easy in the shakedown already I see..

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2009/634410.jpg

[Almeidafoto]

sadly :(

It's a pitty that the official website annouces three hours of live stage streaming kor FREE, and then we see thar all of them are delayied.
Reminds me of a World Karting Finals here in Portugal (both Final races broadcasted), and watched myself "live" on track when I was already at the circuit's Bar.

[Almeidafoto]

J-M taking it easy in the shakedown already I see..

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2009/634410.jpg

Fantastic picture!

[tolis]

Fantastic picture!


SUPER!!!
Where did you find it Miika?

[Berzs]

Yes. And the local time is now 19.14. I assume you have to be in Norway to make it work...
Well, maybe somebody from Norway could explain, what is going on with this LIVE coverage, because I believe there is a whole bunch of people all over the world sitting at their computers, pushing the Refresh button again and again and hoping to see this one. :rolleyes:

[Miika]

From a Finnish news site telling the shakedown results:
http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2009/02/798811

Photo by Ford/Les Kolczak.

[SubaruNorway]

There won't be any live NRK just found out they don't have the rights they need to broadcast it. I think it was the big screen feed they had planed to broadcast

[Berzs]

There won't be any live NRK just found out they don't have the rights they need to broadcast it. I think it was the big screen feed they had planed to broadcast
Thank You! At least the F5 button on my laptop won't get destroyed today :D

[urabus-denoS2000]

Can anyone give a working link?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Oh just read that it wont be live

[SubaruNorway]

But here's something that might make up for it ;)

Got a little video from shakedown up, i will see if i can do this every day and then make a bigger one later, enjoy!

http://upload.streetfire.net/video/Rally-Norway-shakedown-09_635764.htm

[Mirek]

Great video!

[A.F.F.]

Excellent... I don't have to work tomorrow :) Friday will most probably be THE rally day :up:

See you on the forum tomorrow.

[KKS]

SS1 started

[Berzs]

But here's something that might make up for it ;)

Got a little video from shakedown up, i will see if i can do this every day and then make a bigger one later, enjoy!

http://upload.streetfire.net/video/Rally-Norway-shakedown-09_635764.htm
a very nice video! :)
You wouldn't by any chance have a little more footage of the car No. 40 (bright orange EVO IX) from the SD?

[FabiaFan]

SS1 started Bryn so much over Flodin...???

[FabiaFan]

J-M taking it easy in the shakedown already I see..



Cannot imagine, how it came to this position.... and how did this end???

[SubaruNorway]

a very nice video! :)
You wouldn't by any chance have a little more footage of the car No. 40 (bright orange EVO IX) from the SD?

Yeah i think i have one or two more clips of him, I'Il make sure i add them in the full video ok ;)

And thanks for the nice comments :)

Did you notice i have a new mic btw? :p

[KKS]

fast time for NEIKSANS :)

[Mirek]

Sousa lost more than one minute on SSS!

[Tom206wrc]

Sousa on SSS ???? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Sandell best time now :)

[pettersolberg29]

Sousa on SSS ???? :confused:

Stalled on the line, then hit a bank, spun and lost his light pod! Not a good start!

[FabiaFan]

But Sandell...

[KKS]

Does anybody have live stream link?

[PLuto]

SOUSA B. / CARVALHO J. (st. č. 32) "Není to moc dobrý start. Na testech jsme havarovali, před RZ 1 nás pozlobila baterie, na startu nám zhasl motor, trefili jsme sněhovou bariéru, dělali hodiny a ztratili světelnou rampu." / "Not so good start. On tests we had a crash, before SS 1 we had problems with battery, on start line our engine stalled, we hit the snowbank, made a spun and lost lightramp. I would like to stay on the road"

[KKS]

Fast PWRC faster then slow WRC drivers? O_O wow

[Blitzerflitzer]

Colin: Sandell is making the "Solberg" :D :D

[tolis]

Sandell quicker than Novikov???

[FabiaFan]

S2000 beating turbos... how come???

[hari]

Sandell faster than Novikov and Rautenbach!

[J.Lindstroem]

Patrik Sandell apperantly made a "Petter Solberg", hanging outside of the car and waving to the crowd!

I have to say Patrik really knows how to advertise himself, thats one of the things that swedish drivers has been lacking of the last years...

[PLuto]

NOVIKOV E. / MOSCATT D. (st. č. 7) Byl lehce mimo trať / Was slightly off the road

[Viking]

First pwrc stage win for Skoda in the first stage!

[J.Lindstroem]

First pwrc stage win for Skoda in the first stage!

Exactly like in the IRC!

[Daniel]

J-M taking it easy in the shakedown already I see..

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2009/634410.jpg
****

[FabiaFan]

Exactly like in the IRC! I think it was from the first leg there...

[SubaruNorway]

Rally radio is on btw

[FabiaFan]

What has happened to PGA and Flodin, where are the seconds from???

[Halvis]

Great time from Mads Østberg!

[Tom206wrc]

Does the time of SSS will be counted for the rest of rally ??? :confused:

[pucky54]

PG stalled in a hairpin

[Berzs]

Yeah i think i have one or two more clips of him, I'Il make sure i add them in the full video ok ;)

And thanks for the nice comments :)

OK, that would be absolutely great! :)
and, if You don't mind, I could post links to Your videos in the Latvian rally forum and some 20-30 thousand Latvian rally fans would be VERY grateful. A lot of people in Latvia are following the results of No. 40 Neiksans/Dzirkals, and I'm sure that they would be happy to see some videos of him in the Special Stages :)
Thank You one more time :)

[KKS]

Does the time of SSS will be counted for the rest of rally ??? :confused:

yes, because its SS :) not Super :)

[PLuto]

What has happened to PGA and Flodin, where are the seconds from???

Watch here: http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=2

[J.Lindstroem]

What has happened to PGA and Flodin, where are the seconds from???

PG apperantly stalled in the last hairpin... Flodin jumped to hard and broke something in the rear!

[PLuto]

Does the time of SSS will be counted for the rest of rally ??? :confused:

Yes

[pettersolberg29]

What order are the cars tackling the SSS? Seems to be completely random!

[PLuto]

What order are the cars tackling the SSS? Seems to be completely random!

Look here: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/?id=698

There is starting order for today and also tomorrow.

[J.Lindstroem]

Petter Solberg fastest so far ;)

[SubaruNorway]

OK, that would be absolutely great! :)
and, if You don't mind, I could post links to Your videos in the Latvian rally forum and some 20-30 thousand Latvian rally fans would be VERY grateful. A lot of people in Latvia are following the results of No. 40 Neiksans/Dzirkals, and I'm sure that they would be happy to see some videos of him in the Special Stages :)
Thank You one more time :)

Go ahead! the more that sees it the better haha ;) I'Il make sure i get some good clips of him this weekend then.

[FabiaFan]

Petter!!!

[wwbroe]

Petter rules. :p :

[noel157]

I know it's only a SSS and 2km but cracker time from Petter.

[tolis]

Petter Solberg is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Viking]

You are my Solberg, my Petter Solberg..... :bounce:

[FabiaFan]

I know it's only a SSS and 2km but cracker time from Petter.
One thing is sure now - his car is definitely not so crappy....

[J.Lindstroem]

Great to see him back in the lead. To the rally it does not mean anything, but the symbolic and psycologic value of it is huuge.

Im sure he is back. The old one!

[FabiaFan]

Leading after "Day 1"...

[Viking]

Yes I know there are 370 something km left...but, but :)

[SubaruNorway]

Come on!!!!!

[r199]

Seb Loeb gets his ass kicked by his old car gooooooo Petter!!!!

[Halvis]

Fantastic start for Petter! I have no words for how important this is for him, to get such a start with that "old" car, simply incredible!

Also great, great start for Mads Østberg.

Yes, I know it's only SSS, but still, it's so great.

[Daniel]

Fantastic start for Petter! I have no words for how important this is for him, to get such a start with that "old" car, simply incredible!

Also great, great start for Mads Østberg.

Yes, I know it's only SSS, but still, it's so great.
Don't worry.... FRM will take care of him.

[J.Lindstroem]

Yes I know there are 370 something km left...but, but :)

I dont like it when people speak lite "oh cut it of its just a super special it is a long rally". WE KNOW that... :)

To be back in the lead in a rally means a lot to Solberg psycholocigal, does not matter if the first stage were 10 meters...

[noel157]

When was the last SS win by a privateer? Gigi?

[ste898]

I have said for a long time give Petter a good car and he will win and here is the proof!!!!

[WRC1]

very good start for rally norway!!!

solberg leads overall, sandell in the new fabia leads pwrc and beats several word rally cars! if there is a rally god, please let the rally end exactly like it is now! ;o)

one thing makes me a little worry: starting positions for tomorrow, boland 2 minutes before aava.....he (boland) lost 14 seconds on the 2k´s of the ss tonight, this may cause problems at least on stage 4 tomorrow over 25km!

reg

wrc1

...thers only one petter solberg! peeeetter soooolberg, thers only one petter solberg

[SubaruNorway]

Yeah Boland did not look very comfortable on shakedown today, think he was one of those who did the most runs too hehe. I think he's done a rally in Norway before, think it was Flesberg rally in a baby blue classic impreza, does anyone know?

[noel157]

Sub, I think the only winter rallies Boland has done before are Sweden and RMC (sometimes a winter-ish rally) but can't be sure about Flesberg.

[Gard]

When was the last SS win by a privateer? Gigi?

Østberg I think. But that was a sss

[Gard]

WOW Kjær 2'nd in N4. And in a Subaru-cup car?

[Viking]

Sub, I think the only winter rallies Boland has done before are Sweden and RMC (sometimes a winter-ish rally) but can't be sure about Flesberg.

Yes Boland drove Flesberg years ago in the babyblue Subaru, I think it was as a part of Hauglands winter rally school.

Anders Kjær in the late starter locost Subaru cup car almost spoils the fun for Sandell :up:

[muscrae]

Fantastic start for Petter, hope he keeps it till the end of the rally, I'am a fan of Loeb, though...

[Viking]

When was the last SS win by a privateer? Gigi?

Japan 2008

SS25 Sapporo 5 1.49 km Kim, Aji 1:45,7 50.75 km/h

Thanks Juwra :)

[Maui J.]

J-M taking it easy in the shakedown already I see..

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2009/634410.jpg

Wow! That is one amazing photo. Would to see the before and after shots of this one. Thanks for posting and thanks to the photographer for standing his ground.

SS1: Petter's back! I know it's only the very first stage, and only a SSS, but what a fantastic start to his new career as a privateer. Great way to keep the sponsors happy as well. Roll on the real stages tomorrow.

[bluuford]

I have told it many times that there is whole side without any sponsor banners on Latvalas car.. it is underside of course:-)

[Raini]

I have told it many times that there is whole side without any sponsor banners on Latvalas car.. it is underside of course:-)

:D and this unused side is most often shown side of the Latvala's car.

[Sturla]

OK, that would be absolutely great! :)
and, if You don't mind, I could post links to Your videos in the Latvian rally forum and some 20-30 thousand Latvian rally fans would be VERY grateful. A lot of people in Latvia are following the results of No. 40 Neiksans/Dzirkals, and I'm sure that they would be happy to see some videos of him in the Special Stages :)
Thank You one more time :)

He did a very good stage, I was at the stage watching.. We talked about him, looked very good :)

[Viridian Black]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnwHBHcifko
henning not happy about something.

[ste898]

Looks like M-Sport ans MW are making sure he won't win by giving him different suspension to what he tested and ordered.

I would tell them to stick their focus!!!!

[Viking]

WHO is Føkking with me?

[HaCo]

Is it now the live Ss?

[Halvis]

Interesting start tomorrow, considering what is being said that the stages are a little loose, and that they have ploughed too much - meaning that it is possible that the drivers starting a bit down the order might get better grip. If that happens, Petter will have a very good starting position tomorrow - bearing in mind his performance tonight, he might be very, very high in the rankings after day one.

I'm packing now, going to the rally tomorrow!

[BeerBro]

did the SS end already?

[Sulland]

If Henning still feel he is being føkked by Ford, the number of Xsara WRC's in Norway might go up with 100% :p

Lets see what happens tomorrow !

[MJW]

If Henning still feel he is being føkked by Ford, the number of Xsara WRC's in Norway might go up with 100% :p

Lets see what happens tomorrow !
I guess signed contracts come into it. If of course Malcolm now favours signed contracts with Norwegian drivers unlike 9 years ago

[Shrike]

Many of us dream of a Petter victory myself included but lets be real here.

[gloomyDAY]

Interesting start tomorrow, considering what is being said that the stages are a little loose, and that they have ploughed too much - meaning that it is possible that the drivers starting a bit down the order might get better grip. If that happens, Petter will have a very good starting position tomorrow - bearing in mind his performance tonight, he might be very, very high in the rankings after day one.

I'm packing now, going to the rally tomorrow!I'm jealous.

Can't wait for Lillehammer. What time is it on?

[SubaruNorway]

You are my Solberg my only Solberg! Hehe heading outt to ss2 Opaker now ;)

[J.Lindstroem]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnwHBHcifko
henning not happy about something.

It was 4-5 years since Henning started to drive a factory car on regular bais and i still cant think of him as a world class driver. I don't think he ever will win a rally (and thats not because Ford is fokking with his car). And i dont like it when he starts his about him being better than Petter...

Petter is and has always been the best Solberg!

[jbmarcus21]

NORWAY RALLY PROGRAM 2009

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/norvege09.htm
'Program'
'Hours about Special Stage'
'Results on Live'

[garais22]

Ok, It`s time to make a cup of coffee, it`s time to go my Boss and say, that today I will not work, because I need to follow rally norway and especially for ANDIS NEIKŠĀNS.. :)

[Wim_Impreza]

Good morning all. Good to see Petter wins the SS but I think a top 5 is realistic for him. Latvala, Hirvonen, Loeb are in much faster cars. He must thinking to fight with H. Solberg, Østberg, Sordo and maybe Aava.

I am going to work now too, so I hope you will have a nice rally forummers.

A.F.F. enjoy your free day and the rally. ;)

[A.F.F.]

Cheers Wim :wave:

And good morning folks.

I just woke up, fed the cat, made some coffee and opened all the browsers needed for this rally. I'm ready as ever :)

[pino]

Go Petter ! morning everyone :D