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pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 15:40
When is 17:00 Norwegian time in English time?

Sulland
10th January 2009, 15:47
When is 17:00 Norwegian time in English time?

1700 CET = 1600 BST

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 15:54
Then I'm afraid I lied. I meant 19:00 Norwegian Time or 18.00 BST.

Wim
10th January 2009, 17:07
Would love to see him this year..........................in "his child" S14 or better S15 Subaru..again. I'm shure Prodrive would work theyr pants off to make the car as fast as possible, in order to attract a new make for next year (volkswagen??). This situation reminds me of the time Sainz came in a repsol lancia (93 or 94??). Would break the dull two make battle as well.

leno
10th January 2009, 17:20
still nothing new about petter??

JFL
10th January 2009, 17:22
no :( . 30min. according to pettersolberg29

Sulland
10th January 2009, 17:27
Rumors on norwegian forum on 07 c4 in own Petter Solberg Team.

Lets see if anything happens tonoght !

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 17:32
no :( . 30min. according to pettersolberg29


Want you to know I got this from a mate - please don't kill me if I'm wrong! ;)

JFL
10th January 2009, 17:34
Want you to know I got this from a mate - please don't kill me if I'm wrong! ;)
hehe, nobody is going to kill nobody :) Is your friend in the game?

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 17:43
Phew, no death for me...!

Yes he is in the game, however if I tell you what he does then it might give it away as he is involved with a particular team who he believes Petter will join.

JFL
10th January 2009, 17:48
In other words if you tell me, you have to kill me! :)

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 17:49
Or if I tell you, he will kill me!

tolis
10th January 2009, 17:49
I can't wait........

PLuto
10th January 2009, 17:50
I can't wait........

You cant waint to Petter's decision or killing JFL and pettersolberg29? :D

Finni
10th January 2009, 17:53
Rumors on norwegian forum on 07 c4 in own Petter Solberg Team.

That would be confident decision by Petter.

I still believe Ford.

tolis
10th January 2009, 17:54
You cant waint to Petter's decision or killing JFL and pettersolberg29? :D

The second... :D :D :D

traxx
10th January 2009, 17:54
Time is over...

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 17:57
For my own reputation I hope my mate wasn't lying...

I'm trying to ring him but his mobile is busy. Let you know if I get anything.

JFL
10th January 2009, 18:02
Friends don't lie.. :)

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 18:05
They are often wrong though!

Finni
10th January 2009, 18:10
They are often wrong though!

If your friend is involved to Citroen or Ford (as I understood you to say) then he knows.. no room top errors.

Roy
10th January 2009, 18:21
I vote for Ramsport.

Psycho!
10th January 2009, 18:25
My nerves are burning... :angryfire

Halvard
10th January 2009, 18:25
Yesterday Petter said he'll tell the press what he's doing today. If my 'sources' are correct, news will be revealed at 17:00 Norwegian Time.

DSTM!

Could it be that the news that Petter`s gonna say something today is wrong, a misunderstanding. Heard something written on his homepage about a decision tomorrow. Could it be this, from the 16th of december?

"Subaru to withdraw from the 2009 WRCTue, Dec 16th, 2008 Fuji Heavy Industries in Japan has decided to withdraw from the 2009 World Rally Championship.

– I got information about the decision earlier today and need to evaluate the situation before I make any public statement. I understand that media and the public would like to have answers to all their questions right now, but I ask you all to be patient and wait until tomorrow, says Petter Solberg."

JFL
10th January 2009, 18:29
could be...Maybe they used an old quote? Or maybe not. He said yesterday that he got an offer, and need to think about it! And asked everybody to wait until tomorrow(today)

Englandsfahrer
10th January 2009, 18:34
I don't know if it means anything, but Team Expert's website has been down for a couple of days now. If he's talking to Wilson, maybe there will be two orange Focus' in the forest this year?

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 18:35
FAO - Halvard:

No, this news is definately new.

He said, "I was informed about this (offer) earlier today, and need time to think through this before I give my statementment. I understand that both supporters and the press want answers to their questions now, but I ask that you give me time until tomorrow."

I therefore rang up a mate 'in the business' to see if he'd heard anything, and he said had. I am only passing on what he said. I'm still trying to contact him again to see what's going on. If he is wrong, then sorry, but he's been quite reliable in the past e.g. Panizzi, Kopecky in a Skoda IRC and Atkinson joining Citroen so I trust him.

DonJippo
10th January 2009, 18:38
Could it be that the news that Petter`s gonna say something today is wrong, a misunderstanding. Heard something written on his homepage about a decision tomorrow. Could it be this, from the 16th of december?

You just need to be patient, there are news to come just wait and see... :)

leno
10th January 2009, 18:40
He is late; like in 2008 season: always late on finish

Halvard
10th January 2009, 18:41
FAO - Halvard:

No, this news is definately new.

He said, "I was informed about this (offer) earlier today, and need time to think through this before I give my statementment. I understand that both supporters and the press want answers to their questions now, but I ask that you give me time until tomorrow."

I therefore rang up a mate 'in the business' to see if he'd heard anything, and he said had. I am only passing on what he said. I'm still trying to contact him again to see what's going on. If he is wrong, then sorry, but he's been quite reliable in the past e.g. Panizzi, Kopecky in a Skoda IRC and Atkinson joining Citroen so I trust him.

Ok.... I just found the text on his webpage similar to what I have read somewhere on this forum.. thats why....

I have to be patient then

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 18:42
He is late; like in 2008 season: always late on finish

;) Ooh, harsh!

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 18:42
Halvard - When i first saw it I thought it was copied as well, but now I know it isn't.

TMorel
10th January 2009, 18:45
This is what happens when he doesn't have Phil Mills keeping an eye on the clock for him...

After all this wait it better be something good and not just "Taken job with Black'n'Gold mini-cabs"

noel157
10th January 2009, 19:03
Just a thought - when he said he would have news today perhaps that referred to a Ford deal of some sort. And perhaps the delay has been caused by a new offer that came in this morning, the C4 deal.....

Wim
10th January 2009, 19:08
I think some teams are lowering the price

JFL
10th January 2009, 19:10
whatever happens, I must say Petter have been a champ in holding the cards tight to his chest! I guess nobody really knows anything, exept him! Nervewrecking to me and many others.. It could be anything! Ford, Citroen, Subaru, or nothing at all..

Psycho!
10th January 2009, 19:16
Yes,but it would gentle if he at least had postponed his announcement!!(If the things will not clear today...)

JFL
10th January 2009, 19:33
I guess there has been a misunderstanding from somebody, regarding to his announcement today! It would be a totally wrong time to bring this news today! Many big news in Norway today... Good and bad, and also a big athletes show/pricegiving. It would only be a little notice in the news today, but maybe if he wait until monday or tuesday it will be the headliner!

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 19:37
I've just got through to my mate, and he has NO idea why there is a delay. As far as he knows, Petter has decided who he's driving for this season, so he doesn't know why there is no announcement.

tolis
10th January 2009, 19:40
I've just got through to my mate, and he has NO idea why there is a delay. As far as he knows, Petter has decided who he's driving for this season, so he doesn't know why there is no announcement.


So why don't you tell us.....?????????
We won't tell anyone else!!!!
Please...

Roy
10th January 2009, 19:43
I've just got through to my mate, and he has NO idea why there is a delay. As far as he knows, Petter has decided who he's driving for this season, so he doesn't know why there is no announcement.

Waiting for the newspapers or a sport TV-program in Norway?

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 19:51
All I'll say is that I'm not that excited, as I don't believe he can win in this car.
However with the delay, perhaps Petter has recieved a beter offer and is now considering that.

Finni
10th January 2009, 19:51
I've just got through to my mate, and he has NO idea why there is a delay. As far as he knows, Petter has decided who he's driving for this season, so he doesn't know why there is no announcement.

Is it away from someone if you tell us?! If you have knowledge no one gets hurted if you tell it. Only your ass gets burned if you are wrong. Lol

JFL
10th January 2009, 19:55
All I'll say is that I'm not that excited, as I don't believe he can win in this car.
However with the delay, perhaps Petter has recieved a beter offer and is now considering that.

Subaru then....

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 19:56
The delay makes me less confident - that's why I'm not telling yet!

If there's no official news by midday tomorow, I'll tell you what I was told.

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 19:56
Rumors on norwegian forum on 07 c4 in own Petter Solberg Team.

Lets see if anything happens tonoght !



I PRAY for that to happen !!!! :bounce:

jparker
10th January 2009, 20:00
The delay makes me less confident - that's why I'm not telling yet!

If there's no official news by midday tomorow, I'll tell you what I was told.

You sound like you don't know anything

Roy
10th January 2009, 20:01
All I'll say is that I'm not that excited, as I don't believe he can win in this car.
....

So no Focus or C4 in that way.

So what could it be?
- Subaru
- Skoda? (WRC or S2000)
- Other S2000
- His old Celica or Volvo
- N4
- Fiesta Cup
- All others
- Nothing

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 20:03
You sound like you don't know anything

Well that's up to you. I'm just trying to let others know what I've been told.

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 20:03
- Whale ???? :rolleyes:

Psycho!
10th January 2009, 20:03
The delay makes me less confident - that's why I'm not telling yet!

If there's no official news by midday tomorow, I'll tell you what I was told.
Send us a private message!!!

jparker
10th January 2009, 20:05
Well that's up to you. I'm just trying to let others know what I've been told.
Except you are not telling anything.

swordsman
10th January 2009, 20:05
So no Focus or C4 in that way.

So what could it be?
- Subaru
- Skoda? (WRC or S2000)
- Other S2000
- His old Celica or Volvo
- N4
- Fiesta Cup
- All others
- Nothing

Or may I be right here? :) http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/petter-solberg-team-using-the-307wrc/

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 20:07
I hope you're right Swordman :p :


And no doubt Petter can make the car quicker than his older brother... :D

jparker
10th January 2009, 20:09
I hope you're right Swordman :p :


And no doubt Petter can make the car quicker than his older brother... :D
But you just said that you pray for C4? Make up your mind :)

swordsman
10th January 2009, 20:10
I hope you're right Swordman :p :


And no doubt Petter can make the car quicker than his older brother... :D

No matter all the doubts I know grow in this forum I think the 307WRC is a good car. I went in it on a test with Bozian in Sweden i february and it was really, really nice - both the feeling (haha, what WRC car isn't a good feeling?) and more important the times. Many things have changed since the Peugeot works time, I promise you.

However, I think the car is on a level that it needs some true luck to be winning, but a podium contender for sure.

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 20:21
But you just said that you pray for C4? Make up your mind :)



Yep, but apparently the C4 won't happened if the car is a "not winning" one according to forum member Pettersolberg... :mark:

Finni
10th January 2009, 20:27
hmmm.. if it's updated 307 it's worth to follow but if it's Subaru then Petter is eating about his own words (he is only driving for win).

jparker
10th January 2009, 20:28
Yep, but apparently the C4 won't happened if the car is a "not winning" one according to forum member Pettersolberg... :mark:
Yes, but C4 it's easer to jump on its roof.

Finni
10th January 2009, 20:31
The delay makes me less confident - that's why I'm not telling yet!

If there's no official news by midday tomorow, I'll tell you what I was told.

ing nerd.. You have already showed that you don't have full trust to your source so we are not hanging on your words if it's wrong. No one hurt if u tell :D :P

jparker
10th January 2009, 20:32
hmmm.. if it's updated 307 it's worth to follow but if it's Subaru then Petter is eating about his own words (he is only driving for win).
... and if that's true, WRC 2009 may turn to be better then 2008.

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 20:40
... and if that's true, WRC 2009 may turn to be better then 2008.




Clear !!! We would see what the whale really has in its guts against more recent rally cars!!! :bounce:

Barreis
10th January 2009, 20:52
Oh it's going to be quickly forgotten all the bad things..

swordsman
10th January 2009, 21:01
As a teaser I added some pictures (in the bottom of the post) of the 307WRC as it was on the test in Sweden in February 2008. Probably close to what it would be if Petter would drive!?! http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/petter-solberg-team-using-the-307wrc/

Finni
10th January 2009, 21:10
As a teaser I added some pictures (in the bottom of the post) of the 307WRC as it was on the test in Sweden in February 2008. Probably close to what it would be if Petter would drive!?! http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/petter-solberg-team-using-the-307wrc/

Petter losing to Henning? Where is this world going? Loooooool That's same as saying that Lewis Hamilton would loose to Adrian Sutil. Or that Grönholm is not driving Ford because he fears to compete against Henning Solberg.

Roy
10th January 2009, 21:11
As a teaser I added some pictures (in the bottom of the post) of the 307WRC as it was on the test in Sweden in February 2008. Probably close to what it would be if Petter would drive!?! http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/petter-solberg-team-using-the-307wrc/

Well it was you who told us that Henning drive with 307 for 2009. That was nonsense, we all now know. Why is this (in your eyes) again true?

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 21:12
Sorry for all the messing around, however I have been told I can tell you what I know. Please don't hold it against me if I'm wrong!

When I said I thought it wasn't a car capable of wins, that is simply because it is a M2 car. Petter was meant to sign a one-year contract with Ford, driving in a deal similar to Hennings with his own sponsors for 8 events, missing Ireland, Spain and most likely Poland, although he may have to miss Norway instead if the deal isn't signed soon. He will pay for the drive, and have very limited testing (this may be the reason for any delay).

With regards to manufacturing points, I'm not sure where he is - as in if he will be nominated in any events. We'll have to see what happens.

I am now as much in the dark as to the delay as you. And just so you know, C4 from RallyBuzz has also recieved similar information about this planned press conference today so its not just me who got this info.

swordsman
10th January 2009, 21:14
Well it was you who told us that Henning drive with 307 for 2009. That was nonsense, we all now know. Why is this (in your eyes) again true?

I never told you it's true :) Simple as that, guy, so just reeeelax. :D

Tomi
10th January 2009, 21:17
Yes, but C4 it's easer to jump on its roof.

Maybe they could glue some sand on the roof as well, so that the toss dont fall down and brake his arm.

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 21:24
If very limited tests and events in Focus or other M2 cars that's totally BAD NEWS and disappointment !!!! :mad: :mad:

Roy
10th January 2009, 21:26
I never told you it's true :) Simple as that, guy, so just reeeelax. :D

I just say you come with 307 rumours. Only rumours. Poor Tom is jumping around for nothing ;)

@Pettersolberg29
A MT Ford Focus can win! Do you think, he can step into a M1 team? Let's wait and see what reason is of cancelling or delay from press conference.
Maybe there it was false?

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 21:28
Roy is right...I'm totally collapsed in my chair !! ;( ;(

swordsman
10th January 2009, 21:39
I just say you come with 307 rumours. Only rumours. Poor Tom is jumping around for nothing ;)

@Pettersolberg29
A MT Ford Focus can win! Do you think, he can step into a M1 team? Let's wait and see what reason is of cancelling or delay from press conference.
Maybe there it was false?

No, not rumours - just own speculation. But I'm also very straightforward about the fact that it's speculation :)

Roy
10th January 2009, 21:41
No, not rumours - just own speculation. But I'm also very straightforward about the fact that it's speculation :)

You wasn't in the 'henning case'

swordsman
10th January 2009, 21:44
You wasn't in the 'henning case'

Ahh you mean that! No, I know. Sorry about that, I got burned there. I had really good sources about that though, I don't know what happened. But as you can see I learned from it and got more precautious :)

pettersolberg29
10th January 2009, 21:46
An M2 Focus cannot win unless the top 4 manufacturer drivers retire realistically.

Roy
10th January 2009, 21:46
Ahh you mean that! No, I know. Sorry about that, I got burned there. I had really good sources about that though, I don't know what happened. But as you can see I learned from it and got more precautious :)

:up:

Finni
10th January 2009, 21:54
If very limited tests and events in Focus or other M2 cars that's totally BAD NEWS and disappointment !!!! :mad: :mad:

No, it's not dissapmointment at all. Peugeot or Subaru would have been dissappointment. First of all current M2 cars are very competitive. It's pure myth (invented as excuse for weak drivers) that M2 cars are not top notch.

For instance Latvala with Stobart-Focus was almost match to Hirvonen and Duval in Corcica despite being traditionally slower than Hirvonen on tarmac. Likewise Duval didin't get any faster in any noticeable way between Germany (Stobart-team) and Spain (official team). Also last year in NZ Grönholm had offer to M2 team and he said that only reason of declining was too fast timetable. Otherwise, according to Grönholm, there is no any significant difference between M2 car and M1 car.

Also lesser amount of testing is not inevitably effective factor for top-notch drivers. The very top-drivers like Marcus and Petter have always been at their pace from the first stage in the new car with little testing. Petter will get enough km's.

After all I am very happy for Petter if he is driving M2 car next year.

FabiaFan
10th January 2009, 21:59
After all I am very happy for Petter if he is driving M2 car next year.
Nothing's official...

JFL
10th January 2009, 22:03
No, it's not dissapmointment at all. Peugeot or Subaru would have been dissappointment. First of all current M2 cars are very competitive. It's pure myth (invented as excuse for weak drivers) that M2 cars are not top notch.

For instance Latvala with Stobart-Focus was almost match to Hirvonen and Duval in Corcica despite being traditionally slower than Hirvonen on tarmac. Likewise Duval didin't get any faster in any noticeable way between Germany (Stobart-team) and Spain (official team). Also last year in NZ Grönholm had offer to M2 team and he said that only reason of declining was too fast timetable. Otherwise, according to Grönholm, there is no any significant difference between M2 car and M1 car.

Also lesser amount of testing is not inevitably effective factor for top-notch drivers. The very top-drivers like Marcus and Petter have always been at their pace from the first stage in the new car with little testing. Petter will get enough km's.

After all I am very happy for Petter if he is driving M2 car next year.

But but, its not only only to win in a M2 car, even if the car is the same as M1! :) especially in Ford!

Psycho!
10th January 2009, 22:09
But remember that this situation is the best possible solution...Would you prefer him in a crappy Impreza struggling for grip and complaining about the handling??

JFL
10th January 2009, 22:10
All I know is that Petter won't take any orders to back down, from anybody! ;)

Tom206wrc
10th January 2009, 22:17
Limited tests is the "news" that disappoints me for Petter :(

leno
10th January 2009, 22:18
So nothing official??? ok, then i doubt it is M2 ford. Something is going wrong otherwise there will be already official news

Psycho!
10th January 2009, 22:20
All I know is that Petter won't take any orders to back down, from anybody! ;)
So,don't complain about Ford's tactics...

JFL
10th January 2009, 22:33
So,don't complain about Ford's tactics...
Sorry? Did'nt get that? Ford or any other team let their M1 team win before M2.. thats how it is.. unfortenately! But if I know Petter right he wont let anybody tell him to lift the throttle!...

Psycho!
10th January 2009, 22:40
Sorry? Did'nt get that? Ford or any other team let their M1 team win before M2.. thats how it is.. unfortenately! But if I know Petter right he wont let anybody tell him to lift the throttle!...
Maybe that is one of the reasons why he still hasn't completed the deal!

JFL
10th January 2009, 22:44
Maybe that is one of the reasons why he still hasn't completed the deal!

My guess too!

Wim
10th January 2009, 22:47
Paying for 8 rounds with an M2 Ford and not a lot of testing doesn't sound super..It's good, but not super. If Latvala or hirvonen are still driving, Petter won't win

leno
10th January 2009, 22:55
If he is paying for drive; he will not follow team orders( i wouldn't it such case). question is if he will have same car then M1?

JFL
10th January 2009, 23:12
Both Duval and H.Solberg backed down last year to let the M1's past.. If they did'nt do that, I guess that would have consecuenses(issues...sorry my english)

kiil
10th January 2009, 23:22
Just saw some pictures from the show! Looks like Citroen are present!
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/photo.php?pid=213303&id=1355651757&ref=nf
( I think it is a public album!?)

Just got back from the show tonight, and that Citroen was only a showcar, no roll cage, no bodykit, and had nothing to do with Citroen Sport....

JFL
10th January 2009, 23:28
So .. No representative from Citroen was there?

Roy
10th January 2009, 23:36
Both Duval and H.Solberg backed down last year to let the M1's past.. If they did'nt do that, I guess that would have consecuenses(issues...sorry my english)

Not true. Henning had free hand in 2008. No team orders for him, same for Munchi's drivers and Duval was free in Germany, before he had a contract with Ford, M-Sport or both.
Only Stobarts Galli and Wilson (and some rallies Latvala) had to slow down for M1 Ford cars.

kiil
10th January 2009, 23:37
So .. No representative from Citroen was there?

No official Citroen Sport booth, but there could easily have been Citroen Sport representatives there. Just saying that the C4 picture you posted doesn't have any relevance to Petters options.

Tomi
10th January 2009, 23:40
Quite big excpectations some people seem to have, if there is only 2 manufacturers and both has drivers under contract, what is left? I dont think its a big deal for Wilson who takes a M2 car, Duval, Galli, or Petter, all the same, as long as they bring the cash.

pucky54
11th January 2009, 00:12
I think you have to run with last years car spec in M2, so I hope he will not get an M2 car.

Gard
11th January 2009, 00:21
I think you have to run with last years car spec in M2, so I hope he will not get an M2 car.
homologated before 1.1.2009.

JFL
11th January 2009, 01:53
Just for the record.... What kind of car is Khalid Al Qassimi driving? What spec? M1 or M2? What seems to be the problem? LOL....

leno
11th January 2009, 07:50
No official news about petter?

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 08:26
:mark:

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 08:38
What on earth is going on?????

Daniel
11th January 2009, 09:01
Stop posting until there is news!

J.Lindstroem
11th January 2009, 09:28
never! news news news DANIEL GIVE ME NEWS!

Daniel
11th January 2009, 09:38
never! news news news DANIEL GIVE ME NEWS!
Just wait. Posting 3 pages of "Where's the news?" won't make it come faster.....

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 09:47
We just want to share our thoughts and feelings...If you don't want to see that,then simply log out!!!! ;)

jparker
11th January 2009, 09:53
I don't think M2 car will give Peter the independence and competitiveness he would like to have. Is Subaru in Adapta going to be cheaper then C4 or Focus M2? If yes, then this option will give him the same results.

J.Lindstroem
11th January 2009, 09:59
Just wait. Posting 3 pages of "Where's the news?" won't make it come faster.....

Daniel i don't wanna argue just give me da neeeeews!!!11

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 10:02
I don't know about the independence,but concerning the speed I do believe that it's similar to the M1 cars.Just remember Latvala in 2007(Finland,Japan,Ireland,Wales...).

Wim
11th January 2009, 10:03
I don't think M2 car will give Peter the independence and competitiveness he would like to have. Is Subaru in Adapta going to be cheaper then C4 or Focus M2? If yes, then this option will give him the same results.

+1

Tomi
11th January 2009, 10:10
Just wait. Posting 3 pages of "Where's the news?" won't make it come faster.....

Sad to say but this forum has become a joke in a few years, before it was a place when you could get info and here was people posting who actually did understand something about the sport, nowdays this is a forum of , wishes and guesses.

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 10:13
I don't think M2 car will give Peter the independence and competitiveness he would like to have. Is Subaru in Adapta going to be cheaper then C4 or Focus M2? If yes, then this option will give him the same results.



Then why not the whale ??? I don't believe the Sub would outpace it if well driven !!! :rolleyes:

jparker
11th January 2009, 10:37
Then why not the whale ??? I don't believe the Sub would outpace it if well driven !!! :rolleyes:

Well, if that's an option, I'm sure Peter will take it.

Barreis
11th January 2009, 12:15
I don't know what Mr. Malcolm Wilson is waiting for.. Ford BP doesn't have a champ in their team..

Daniel
11th January 2009, 12:21
Sad to say but this forum has become a joke in a few years, before it was a place when you could get info and here was people posting who actually did understand something about the sport, nowdays this is a forum of , wishes and guesses.

Yes and any person can start up a site and say what they want without thinking it over or getting any evidence and pass it off as news. I used to never read rally sites for news, I just read the forum. Now it's full of speculators, people wishing and people posting links to sites which merely express ill thought out opinion.

Finni
11th January 2009, 12:54
Both Duval and H.Solberg backed down last year to let the M1's past.. If they did'nt do that, I guess that would have consecuenses(issues...sorry my english)

Did Duval really back down in Germany? In Corcica Duval backed down but in the light Germany it must have been Duval's own decision (in order to effect positively to his fututre opportunity)

And you must remember that Petter is not Duval or Henning. Big boys has different rules.

A.F.F.
11th January 2009, 13:22
Sad to say but this forum has become a joke in a few years, before it was a place when you could get info and here was people posting who actually did understand something about the sport, nowdays this is a forum of , wishes and guesses.


That's because our beloved bulvans can't be trusted anymore.



You hear Inkoo??

Res Ipsa Loquitur
11th January 2009, 13:51
Is there any news about Phil Mills' future in the WRC?

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 14:00
I don't know what Mr. Malcolm Wilson is waiting for.. Ford BP doesn't have a champ in their team..


I'm more and more convinced even a guy like Atkinson in privateer C4 can be in front of both Ford factory Finns on some events(let's see in Ireland)... :mark:

DonJippo
11th January 2009, 15:34
Is there any news about Phil Mills' future in the WRC?

He will be co-driver for Petter Solberg.

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 15:34
At last a sign of life from Petter on motorsport.no!A translation pleaseeeee!

JFL
11th January 2009, 15:37
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=no&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.motorsport.no%2Fwip4%2Fnoe_nytt _petter%2Fd.epl%3Fcat%3D13747%26id%3D407656&sl=no&tl=en

No news..

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 15:43
Rumors,rumors and rumors!!!I am fed up!!Now they say that he will replace Sordo!!! :rolleyes:

rx-guru
11th January 2009, 15:51
Always ever so funny, these translation programmes. "Many balls in the air"... Even in Monte Carlo it must be wise to keep them warm during the winter. ;)

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 16:03
Rumors,rumors and rumors!!!I am fed up!!Now they say that he will replace Sordo!!! :rolleyes:



:crazy:

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 16:07
:crazy:
...for Norway...

J.Lindstroem
11th January 2009, 16:11
...for Norway...

That whould be awsome!

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 16:26
Good for him if true, but what car would drive Sordo instead ??? :rolleyes:

morganmilan
11th January 2009, 16:29
Who needs Sordo? :D

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 16:30
On Norsk-rally they talk about 6 rounds in C4 WRC for Petter and that the deal would be announced tomorrow(rumour was born during Sigdalsrally yesterday)... :confused:

pettersolberg29
11th January 2009, 16:32
Surely he would prefer the 8 rounds in a Ford, unless he gets an M1 car and M1 treatment for those 6 events.

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 16:35
Hey,friend!!Don't you know anything more??

pettersolberg29
11th January 2009, 16:46
Hey,friend!!Don't you know anything more??


Who? Me or Tom?

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 16:54
Who? Me or Tom?
Of course you!!

leno
11th January 2009, 16:54
So what are last rumors? which teams are options

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 16:58
So what are last rumors? which teams are options


Options me not know, but rumours:

8 rounds in M2 Focus
6 rounds in M2 C4(M1 in Norway)

:confused:

leno
11th January 2009, 17:02
It would nice to see him in Citroen to compare him with cris and loeb

Daniel
11th January 2009, 17:05
He will be co-driver for Petter Solberg.

Apparently he will also be Welsh. For the rest of this year as least.

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 17:09
Apparently he will also be Welsh. For the rest of this year as least.
Black humour :dozey:

Daniel
11th January 2009, 17:23
Black humour :dozey:

There are more facts in my post than all the pages since Henning's season was announced.....

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 17:31
Can't wait for tomorrow the...hypothetical ;) ...announcement of Petter !!

Daniel
11th January 2009, 17:32
Can't wait for tomorrow the...hypothetical ;) ...announcement of Petter !!
Surprise of the year, Tom can't wait for something.

leno
11th January 2009, 17:41
There are more facts in my post than all the pages since Henning's season was announced.....

The facts about Petter doesnt exist, there are only facts about Chuck Norris... :D

leno
11th January 2009, 17:43
We should have pickems: When will P.Solberg announced for which team he will drive :D

Daniel
11th January 2009, 17:46
The facts about Petter doesnt exist, there are only facts about Chuck Norris... :D
Exactly. So why keep on going on and on about it?

Lousada
11th January 2009, 17:58
This thread is getting more milage then some of the official rally threads last year :\

pettersolberg29
11th January 2009, 17:59
Of course you!!

No new news. The Citroen bid is (as far as I'm told) just a rumour, although driving a C4 in Norway seems a possibility as the proposed Ford deal may not come into play until after Norway due to the delay in signing it.

C4 from RallyBuzz has told me he has similar information regarding Ford - and he's heard the deal may be announced tomorrow after the one scheduled for yesterday was postponed.

Daniel
11th January 2009, 18:02
C4 from RallyBuzz has told me he has similar information regarding Ford - and he's heard the deal may be announced tomorrow after the one scheduled for yesterday was postponed.

Rule 1 of anything. Don't trust blogs which is what a lot of these sites basically are.

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 18:16
So C4 just for Norway and Focus for the rest ??? :mark:

Rallyper
11th January 2009, 18:16
Who needs Sordo? :D

I guess Sordo will be there too. But Citroen has for sure capacity to run three C4 :s in the factory team. Then the Junior team will run their cars for themselves.

Important for Petter in this case is that he can use the same stuff as Loeb, which this solution will permitt.

Daniel
11th January 2009, 18:18
So C4 just for Norway and Focus for the rest ??? :mark:

No. He's not driving anything. He's going into farming and is going to farm goats for milk. These are just rumours and nothing more........ why do people keep paying attention to these rumours?

pettersolberg29
11th January 2009, 18:33
They may be rumours, but they do have a source.

Although a C4 for one event then a switch to a Focus does seem unlikely...

J.Lindstroem
11th January 2009, 19:06
No. He's not driving anything. He's going into farming and is going to farm goats for milk. These are just rumours and nothing more........ why do people keep paying attention to these rumours?

Daniel, why do you keep on looking down on us who actually likes romours and speculating about thnings with absolutly no relevance. You are a smart man, i get that. Maybe you see those of us who likes this speculating as less intellegent or less of anything else wich i don't know and maybe that even is the case. But then please leave us alone. We wan't to do this. '

Can't some moderator add "OOPS SPECULATING in this thread" to the name of of it so you people who don't want to see it can avoid going in here. ;)

Daniel, i respect you but sometimes it seems that you have no respect for toher people and what they like to do. This makes me sad.

Daniel
11th January 2009, 19:14
Daniel, why do you keep on looking down on us who actually likes romours and speculating about thnings with absolutly no relevance. You are a smart man, i get that. Maybe you see those of us who likes this speculating as less intellegent or less of anything else wich i don't know and maybe that even is the case. But then please leave us alone. We wan't to do this. '

Can't some moderator add "OOPS SPECULATING in this thread" to the name of of it so you people who don't want to see it can avoid going in here. ;)

Daniel, i respect you but sometimes it seems that you have no respect for toher people and what they like to do. This makes me sad.
Which is all good and fine until you read the last god knows how many pages. You know I want to find out what's happening with Petter, I really do. But people don't wait until an official announcement, they speculate endlessly with no evidence and in some cases no thought and fill up the thread with this sort of stuff.

It used to be that threads went like this:
What will Petter be driving in 2009
Don't know
*link to news story confirming what Petter was driving*
Oh that's good news
Go Petter!
Where are the times for shakedown :angryfire
Congrats Petter

and so on


Now it's just endless talk with no substance. Just wait..... the news will come out via reliable sources and we will know. Me personally I think the best deal for Petter would be a drive with Citroen either M2 or M1. He doesn't want to be part of Malcolm's games at this point in his career and he doesn't want a car that's not going to perform. Malcolm has it stuck in his mind that his two Finns are the future, I think Citroen is far more open in the way they think and I think they'd be more willing to do a 3 car team and give Petter the chance at success that he needs. But you don't see me putting that on my site and pretending that this is what's going to happen because to be blunt none of us know what's going to happen.

swordsman
11th January 2009, 19:27
Which is all good and fine until you read the last god knows how many pages. You know I want to find out what's happening with Petter, I really do. But people don't wait until an official announcement, they speculate endlessly with no evidence and in some cases no thought and fill up the thread with this sort of stuff.

It used to be that threads went like this:
What will Petter be driving in 2009
Don't know
*link to news story confirming what Petter was driving*
Oh that's good news
Go Petter!
Where are the times for shakedown :angryfire
Congrats Petter

and so on


Now it's just endless talk with no substance. Just wait..... the news will come out via reliable sources and we will know. Me personally I think the best deal for Petter would be a drive with Citroen either M2 or M1. He doesn't want to be part of Malcolm's games at this point in his career and he doesn't want a car that's not going to perform. Malcolm has it stuck in his mind that his two Finns are the future, I think Citroen is far more open in the way they think and I think they'd be more willing to do a 3 car team and give Petter the chance at success that he needs. But you don't see me putting that on my site and pretending that this is what's going to happen because to be blunt none of us know what's going to happen.


Daniel, if the only thing you want is an official announcement (which it basically seems to be) - why the heck do you hangout here?? And _IF_ you want more than the official announcement, then hang here - I'm sure the official announcement wont get drowned in this thread - just tryout WRC.com instead for that part.

I don't get the problem? Skip this thread if you like. Read the rest of the threads!? Read WRC.com for Petter announcement. Problem solved! The most disturbing thing in this thread right now is your yelling about what should be written and what should not. THAT is annoying.

Now I'm finished. Cheers! :)

Tomi
11th January 2009, 19:34
Daniel, if the only thing you want is an official announcement (which it basically seems to be) - why the heck do you hangout here?? And _IF_ you want more than the official announcement, then hang here - I'm sure the official announcement wont get drowned in this thread - just tryout WRC.com instead for that part.

I don't get the problem? Skip this thread if you like. Read the rest of the threads!? Read WRC.com for Petter announcement. Problem solved! The most disturbing thing in this thread right now is your yelling about what should be written and what should not. THAT is annoying.

Now I'm finished. Cheers! :)

hey, you forgot the link

Daniel
11th January 2009, 19:37
Daniel, if the only thing you want is an official announcement (which it basically seems to be) - why the heck do you hangout here?? And _IF_ you want more than the official announcement, then hang here - I'm sure the official announcement wont get drowned in this thread - just tryout WRC.com instead for that part.

I don't get the problem? Skip this thread if you like. Read the rest of the threads!? Read WRC.com for Petter announcement. Problem solved! The most disturbing thing in this thread right now is your yelling about what should be written and what should not. THAT is annoying.

Now I'm finished. Cheers! :)
I've posted another thread where people can post links when something official is posted. Feel free to continue advertising your site in this thread though :rolleyes:

J.Lindstroem
11th January 2009, 19:44
I've posted another thread where people can post links when something official is posted. Feel free to continue advertising your site in this thread though :rolleyes:

I think this was a very good solution. Seriously! :)

swordsman
11th January 2009, 19:47
I've posted another thread where people can post links when something official is posted. Feel free to continue advertising your site in this thread though :rolleyes:

You both are so nice. What is the problem with posting a link when it's related to the subject? Aren't we supposed to discuss things, share rumours, thoughts, links, articles etc here? I mean, it's not f*cking spam, it's related links. Without links, speculations and rumours this forum would be quite boring. You can throw your sh*t on me, that's no problem, but if you wanna get rid of speculations, rumours and links, then I think most people here go somewhere else. Seriously.

J.Lindstroem
11th January 2009, 19:53
hey, you forgot the link

what link? :S

Psycho!
11th January 2009, 19:53
You both are so nice. What is the problem with posting a link when it's related to the subject? Aren't we supposed to discuss things, share rumours, thoughts, links, articles etc here? I mean, it's not f*cking spam, it's related links. Without links, speculations and rumours this forum would be quite boring. You can throw your sh*t on me, that's no problem, but if you wanna get rid of speculations, rumours and links, then I think most people here go somewhere else. Seriously.
You are absolutely right :up: .That's why it is called DISCUSSION FORUM!!!

Daniel
11th January 2009, 20:09
You are absolutely right :up: .That's why it is called DISCUSSION FORUM!!!
Well I'll leave you all to your "discussion" and wait for the facts to come out.

J.Lindstroem
11th January 2009, 20:15
Well I'll leave you all to your "discussion" and wait for the facts to come out.

Is it possible for me to come and visit you in your thread and maybe discuss a little bit?

swordsman
11th January 2009, 20:31
Well I'll leave you all to your "discussion" and wait for the facts to come out.

Now, seriously once again, I think that's perfect. Everyone's happy then, I think!?!

Camelopard
11th January 2009, 20:46
Heard a rumour down at Hume that Petter is buying the old Britek Fiestas and is going to run the ARC!!!!

Tom206wrc
11th January 2009, 22:13
Heard a rumour down at Hume that Petter is buying the old Britek Fiestas and is going to run the ARC!!!!



I don't believe even small part of this rumour :p :

Why not Petter in a Skoda Fabia S2000 at IRC(all rounds except Monte-Carlo 'cause too late) ??? :D

FabiaFan
11th January 2009, 22:25
Av: Hallgeir Raknerud <racing@online.no> / Publisert: 11.1-2009 16:20 / Sist endret: 11.1-2009 16:24
Ikke noe nytt fra Petter
Petter Solberg har fortsatt ingen løsning på plass for videre VM-satsing.
-Det er ikke noe nytt. Det er mange baller i lufta. Jeg jobber på flere fronter. Med sponsorer, med å skaffe bil og med å få på plass et team. Det går nesten døgnet rundt, men det er ikke lett, sier Petter til motorsport.no på søndag. Da tok han en pust på kafe i Monte Carlo etter en hektisk uke.

-Jeg kom hjem i går etter noen dager i England der jeg blant annet var på Autosport International Show, og gjorde unna enkelte møter. I morgen er det full fart igjen for å få noe på plass, sier Petter.

Selv om han selv ikke vil røpe noe, er det en rekke rykter som svirrer. Under Sigdalsrally var blant annet det heteste at han var klar for Citroën, og at han til og med skulle nomineres ved siden av Sebastien Loeb i stedet for Dani Sordo under Rally Norway.

-Jeg vil ikke kommentere noe. Jeg jobber på, så får vi se hva som skjer. Jeg har anmeldt meg og til og med betalt startkontingent til Rally Noway, men i hvilken bil og om det i det hele tatt blir noen start vet jeg ikke. Jeg kan i hvert fall love alle mine tilhengere at jeg gjør alt som står i min makt for å komme til start i en konkurransedyktig bil, sier Petter Solberg til motorsport.no.

FabiaFan
11th January 2009, 22:27
Why not Petter in a Skoda Fabia S2000 at IRC :D

Why not in a Peugeot then, Tom???

tolis
11th January 2009, 22:36
And why not in a Proton S2000????

Abarth
11th January 2009, 23:48
Petter will buy the Suzuki team and get PG as number 2 !

Rally Hokkaido
12th January 2009, 00:08
Petter will buy the Suzuki team and get PG as number 2 !

Very good plan!

Jake Stephens
12th January 2009, 00:14
Very good plan!

More misery with Suzuki than Subaru :D

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 07:37
I hope it's a joke :rolleyes:

Psycho!
12th January 2009, 07:40
Please,only official....rumours!!!!

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 07:42
Anyway today we should have(hopefully)the official announcement... :mark:

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 09:41
At what time is scheduled press conference ??? :confused:

Blitzerflitzer
12th January 2009, 09:46
Please,only official....rumours!!!!

http://www.rallysport.nl/home/nl/1/artikel-3279/petter-solberg-ingeschreven-voor-wrc-noorwegen.html

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 09:56
Nothing new, it's the dutch translation of latest norwegian rumours... :mark:

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 10:42
I want to see Petter in a C4(whale is obviously out of question now) !!! :bounce: :bounce:

Camelopard
12th January 2009, 10:48
I want to see Petter in a C4(whale is obviously out of question now) !!! :bounce: :bounce:

I really really really hope not................

Psycho!
12th January 2009, 10:52
I really really really hope not................
Sebastien won't allow it! ;)

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 10:57
I really really really hope not................



You're worrying for Atko ??? :confused:

Sulland
12th January 2009, 14:20
Petter said on a norwegian radio channel just now apparently that nothing regarding car was decided yet.

So we just have to wait and smile ! :-)

swordsman
12th January 2009, 14:25
This article says that Petter is trying to get the worst gear, but if he can't he'll settle for a plan B with a little older stuff to show off for the fans in Norway: http://www.nrksport.no/motorsport/rally-vm/1.6429097

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 14:51
I can't believe nothing is done yet with therefore choice of Focus or C4 that would have been available(according all rumours read until now of course) :eek: :s

A.F.F.
12th January 2009, 16:10
This article says that Petter is trying to get the worst gear, but if he can't he'll settle for a plan B with a little older stuff to show off for the fans in Norway: http://www.nrksport.no/motorsport/rally-vm/1.6429097

Well, Gardemeister drove at NORF with BMW just for sake of driving the rally.

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 17:40
OK...so we won't have anything official today neither ??? :rolleyes:

JEM
12th January 2009, 17:45
Nothing official today for sure! I think we have too wate a few day's or so...

jens
12th January 2009, 18:15
I wonder if Urmo Aava's future is directly dependant on what will happen to Petter Solberg? Right after the announcement of "eight rallies in Stobart for '08" there were hints in Estonian media that actually no contract has been signed yet and some kind of an uncertainty is still existing at the moment. Maybe Malcolm is still trying to negotiate with Petter, so this makes the situation of others uncertain too?

Finni
12th January 2009, 18:31
OK...so we won't have anything official today neither ??? :rolleyes:

It's always good to ask from smarter people. :) Just kidding :)

Roy
12th January 2009, 18:47
It's always good to ask from smarter people. :)

:up:

pettersolberg29
12th January 2009, 18:57
Nothing official today for sure! I think we have too wate a few day's or so...

That would mean he misses Norway, no? He has until Tuesday I thought.

Or does the fact he's signed up and paid the fee for Norway mean he can just confirm the car anytime before the event?

Roy
12th January 2009, 19:11
That would mean he misses Norway, no? He has until Tuesday I thought.

Or does the fact he's signed up and paid the fee for Norway mean he can just confirm the car anytime before the event?

What about your friend? Does he know more about Ford + Petter = why not?

pettersolberg29
12th January 2009, 19:24
What about your friend? Does he know more about Ford + Petter = why not?

Still no more news that you haven't heard.

The Ford offer I said earlier is still on the table (I for one, and my mate, have no idea why it isn't signed/announced!)

A C4 deal has been rumoured in the press, but he knows nothing about that. He did say this morning, however, that he personally hasn't had any more contact with Petter or any of his representatives. This could have been a good sign as it was all done, but it looks like it may be a delay or another offer?

I know no more...

Finni
12th January 2009, 19:40
A C4 deal has been rumoured in the press, but he knows nothing about that. He did say this morning, however, that he personally hasn't had any more contact with Petter or any of his representatives. This could have been a good sign as it was all done, but it looks like it may be a delay or another offer?

I know no more...

I trust more your friend than those rumours in this case. Ford just sounds more realistical than C4. Marcus' didin't want to compete against Loeb (altough he was apprently very near to do), Loeb didin't want to think about Subaru few yeras ago and so on. I just don't believe that Petter is so optimistic that he could parallel or beat Seb from little weaker position. Instead I believe that in Ford Petter can beat official drivers even from marginally weaker position.

Camelopard
12th January 2009, 20:16
You're worrying for Atko ??? :confused:


No definately not, Atko can look after himself, I just don't like ciron and the FRM....... :)

Tom206wrc
12th January 2009, 20:19
No definately not, Atko can look after himself, I just don't like ciron and the FRM....... :)



So join the British Rally Mafia, lead by Malcolm Wilson :p :

Halvis
12th January 2009, 21:16
That would mean he misses Norway, no? He has until Tuesday I thought.

Or does the fact he's signed up and paid the fee for Norway mean he can just confirm the car anytime before the event?

It is reported today that Rally Norway is reading the FIA rules in detail, to see if it is valid to sign up without a certain car decided. No conclusion yet to that. Hopefully, he can announce something tomorrow, in time? I wish..

Tomi
12th January 2009, 21:36
Marcus' didin't want to compete against Loeb (altough he was apprently very near to do)

Why go to be the second driver at Citroen, if you can be the first driver at Ford, dont you think it would have been a stupid move?

swordsman
12th January 2009, 21:42
It is reported today that Rally Norway is reading the FIA rules in detail, to see if it is valid to sign up without a certain car decided. No conclusion yet to that. Hopefully, he can announce something tomorrow, in time? I wish..

They just need to make a call over the border to Bertil Klarin to know that. He has been in this situation a lot of times before, with Daniel C among others :)

Tomi
12th January 2009, 21:50
They just need to make a call over the border to Bertil Klarin to know that. He has been in this situation a lot of times before, with Daniel C among others :)

Have you remembered to thank Klarin already for putting your rally on rotation?

swordsman
12th January 2009, 21:55
Have you remembered to thank Klarin already for putting your rally on rotation?

Haha, fun that you're asking me. I'll send you a PM with my answer...

Gard
13th January 2009, 05:34
What about your friend? Does he know more about Ford + Petter = why not?

Petter said that the problem/challange is to get a good car. Not just a Focus or C4. But to actually get Ford or Citroen to commit themselves to deliver the best spec available. They both happily take you money and give you a "point scoring" car, but that can everyone with money do. Getting a top spec car isn't that easy.

RS
13th January 2009, 05:54
Instead I believe that in Ford Petter can beat official drivers even from marginally weaker position.

Finni, are you actually Finnish? Haven't you just committed some kind of treason? :D

Tomi
13th January 2009, 07:57
Finni, are you actually Finnish? Haven't you just committed some kind of treason? :D

He is, but he has same kind of pervert relationship to petter like you have to skoda.

RS
13th January 2009, 08:14
He is, but he has same kind of pervert relationship to petter like you have to skoda.

Hehe, did you know Petter was a world champion, or didn't it count that year?

Roy
13th January 2009, 08:16
Hehe, did you know Petter was a world champion, or didn't it count that year?

was...

Sulland
13th January 2009, 09:10
Petter said that the problem/challange is to get a good car. Not just a Focus or C4. But to actually get Ford or Citroen to commit themselves to deliver the best spec available. They both happily take you money and give you a "point scoring" car, but that can everyone with money do. Getting a top spec car isn't that easy.

If he is to run a M2 car, and either a C4 07/08 or 07/08 Focus, then the M1 teams will always have the latest. I think Petter have to accept that initially.
If he is doing very well with the year-old car then the bits and pieces will start popping in.

I would go for a 07 C4, if he could get that. Mikkelsens has experience with both Focus and C4, and the winner was clear in his mind. But they all drive differently, so hard to tell. But Petter have probably never driven either Focus or C4, so hard to know.

If Petter need to have a top car to fight for victory, he is propably to late for that for 09, so he has in my view two options;

1. Get a year-old car and do your best, and try to get upgrades as you go along.
2. Buy a S2000 and drive in IRC, Be able to fight for victory and have fun for a year !

Petter just said to Norwegian radio that 2010 is no problem and that he has gotten a lot of good offers for 2010.

Does he have other options, beside a sabbatical ?

Xsara Fan
13th January 2009, 09:18
As I know, 'Citroen Junior Team' will have C4 WRC`s in specification 'Monte 2008'. But during 2009 all cars will have upgrade.

Sulland
13th January 2009, 09:25
As I know, 'Citroen Junior Team' will have C4 WRC`s in specification 'Monte 2008'. But during 2009 all cars will have upgrade.


Yes but an option that has been mentioned is for Petter to buy a 07 C4 and start Petter Solberg Rally Team, then the situation of getting new parts is defferent from the official Junior team of course.

I think that is what he is afraid of.

Tomi
13th January 2009, 09:30
Hehe, did you know Petter was a world champion, or didn't it count that year?

it counts every year offcourse.

bluuford
13th January 2009, 09:37
If Petter is going to take C4 WRC then Citroen will be very badly overbooked and I can expect many technical troubles for the ones who pay less:-(

MJW
13th January 2009, 09:42
And Ford are not overbooked? - remember officially Atkinson is only guaranteed a C4 for Rally Ireland.

DonJippo
13th January 2009, 09:43
Petter said that the problem/challange is to get a good car.

I'm sure he will be happy as long as the car has a lot of switches and buttons to change set-ups continuously during the stage... :dozey:

Sulland
13th January 2009, 10:33
I'm sure he will be happy as long as the car has a lot of switches and buttons to change set-ups continuously during the stage... :dozey:


Do you have inside info for this ?

Xsara Fan
13th January 2009, 10:38
I'm sure he will be happy as long as the car has a lot of switches and buttons to change set-ups continuously during the stage... :dozey:

C4 WRC had some "switches and buttons" ;)
http://www.rte.ie/sport/motorsport/2007/1108/steeringwheel.html

DonJippo
13th January 2009, 10:44
Do you have inside info for this ?

No but few in-car videos... :dozey:

Tom206wrc
13th January 2009, 10:47
If no official news today, is it over for his presence in Norway ??? :confused:

SubaruNorway
13th January 2009, 10:53
If no official news today, is it over for his presence in Norway ??? :confused:

I'm sure he will always be welcome in Norway even if he doesn't pay tax here ;)

Glee
13th January 2009, 11:40
He have to have a car ready by 15:00 today:

http://www.smaalenene.no/sport/article4046116.ece

Google translation:
Can be rejected
The organizers of the Rally Norway must have concrete car

Petter Solberg has signed up for the Rally Norway 12 to 15 February, but organizers require that the driver has a car ready within kl.1500 today.


The organizers of the Rally Norway have clear requirements for people who want to run the World Cup round.

- Before we can approve a registration, each driver to submit to a particular car. It's impossible to join, and later tell the class and car to run, "explains race leader Stig Rune Kjernsli.

He said that it is to make changes later, if the subscription is approved.

- All drivers can switch cars in the class they are registered. It means that you are registered for the WRC class, you must run there. Moreover, one of the people in the car replaced, "he continues.

The organizers think the course is nice about Petter Solberg will start.

- We know that Petter Solberg is a public frier and that we get some additional audiences. But for us it is smooth start field that matters most. It applies also to the public. But we wish him welcome, and it will be positive for all parties, "said Kjernsli.

Gard
13th January 2009, 11:48
He have to have a car ready by 15:00 today:

http://www.smaalenene.no/sport/article4046116.ece

Google translation:
Can be rejected
The organizers of the Rally Norway must have concrete car

Petter Solberg has signed up for the Rally Norway 12 to 15 February, but organizers require that the driver has a car ready within kl.1500 today.


The organizers of the Rally Norway have clear requirements for people who want to run the World Cup round.

- Before we can approve a registration, each driver to submit to a particular car. It's impossible to join, and later tell the class and car to run, "explains race leader Stig Rune Kjernsli.

He said that it is to make changes later, if the subscription is approved.

- All drivers can switch cars in the class they are registered. It means that you are registered for the WRC class, you must run there. Moreover, one of the people in the car replaced, "he continues.

The organizers think the course is nice about Petter Solberg will start.

- We know that Petter Solberg is a public frier and that we get some additional audiences. But for us it is smooth start field that matters most. It applies also to the public. But we wish him welcome, and it will be positive for all parties, "said Kjernsli.

He can enter with his s9 I believe and change later

Tom206wrc
13th January 2009, 11:51
I hope it will be THE car he will really use at Norway, at last !!! :rolleyes:

swordsman
13th January 2009, 12:49
Looks like a stupid article. If you can change car within the class, then of course you don't need to decide car. Just namedrop one. Has been done before, for example in Sweden, by Carlsson :) More in my blog, but I don't dare to post the link :D :D :D

Bazza2541
13th January 2009, 14:36
Has Petter now missed the boat for Norway?

swordsman
13th January 2009, 14:43
Has Petter now missed the boat for Norway?

No, he has entered the rally and he has got permission by FIA to name his car later - and anyway he could have named any car and changed it later within his class.

skarderud
13th January 2009, 14:45
the "word on the street" says that petter is on his way to france, and he going to run rally norway for sure!
citroen c4? sordo out as M1?

Xsara Fan
13th January 2009, 14:52
the "word on the street" says that petter is on his way to france, and he going to run rally norway for sure!
citroen c4? sordo out as M1?

I don`t think so. Of course it`s gonna be great to see Petter in Citroen but not as a replacement for Sordo. IMHO it`s a stupid thing.

swordsman
13th January 2009, 14:54
the "word on the street" says that petter is on his way to france, and he going to run rally norway for sure!
citroen c4? sordo out as M1?

Isn't Petter already in Monte? At least he was on sun. Not far to get to france then ;)

Tom206wrc
13th January 2009, 15:03
He can cross France to go to Britain...at Wilson's HQ, too :p :

skarderud
13th January 2009, 15:04
I don`t think so. Of course it`s gonna be great to see Petter in Citroen but not as a replacement for Sordo. IMHO it`s a stupid thing.
why not? petter is a better driver than sordo on snow and gravel, and they are quite equal on tarmac. sordo NEVER going to be a world champ.
he hate snow, didnt understand why last rally norway, and he dont have the pace on gravel. with that attidude he wont go all the way.

Xsara Fan
13th January 2009, 15:06
why not? petter is a better driver than sordo on snow and gravel, and they are quite equal on tarmac. sordo NEVER going to be a world champ.
he hate snow, didnt understand why last rally norway, and he dont have the pace on gravel. with that attidude he wont go all the way.

Petter never drive Citroen C4 WRC. New car = new problems for Solberg.

skarderud
13th January 2009, 15:14
hopefully not, but with 100 km testing or so, he going to drive that car better than the s14 :)

Xsara Fan
13th January 2009, 15:17
hopefully not, but with 100 km testing or so, he going to drive that car better than the s14 :)

Let`s hope...

Gard
13th January 2009, 15:33
Give Petter a competitive car and they can do what they want with the second seat. I believe Petter has something to prove on tarmac and should possibly only have the second seat at RN(if in a C4). But for now, this is just speculation.

JFL
13th January 2009, 15:34
Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

Xsara Fan
13th January 2009, 15:37
Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

The main words are "At least on the testtrack" ;)

JFL
13th January 2009, 15:39
The main words are "At least on the testtrack" ;)
Be positive! I'm 110% sure Petter can handle it!

MJW
13th January 2009, 15:43
Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)
Mikkelsen said that after testing the C4 his admiration for the Ford guys went up a lot, as the C4 was a better car.

Xsara Fan
13th January 2009, 15:43
Be positive! I'm 110% sure Petter can handle it!

Let`s hope, let`s see... For me - I like to see more Citroen`s :)

Tom206wrc
13th January 2009, 17:08
Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)



Sarrazin had a test on gravel track with the C4(while Loeb was testing the 908)...and was quickly very fast too(according some people attending the event)... ;)

Sulland
13th January 2009, 17:09
Mikkelsen tested C4, Focus, and Subaru almost at the same time, and in his mind the C4 was a lot better then the rest.. He did'nt need much time to get on Loeb's pace (At least on the testtrack)

Pity that Mikkelsen could not find the budget for WRC this year, he is a huge talent. But lets see what he can do in P-WRC - and he is for sure going to have a seat for 2010 !!!

Tomi
13th January 2009, 17:14
Pity that Mikkelsen could not find the budget for WRC this year, he is a huge talent. But lets see what he can do in P-WRC - and he is for sure going to have a seat for 2010 !!!

I think its good t see him in PWRC, might give a hint if he is a bird or a fish, and with theese guys he fight for a possible works seat.

JFL
13th January 2009, 17:56
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=no&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dagbladet.no%2F2009%2F01%2F13%2 Fsport%2Fmotorsport%2Frally%2Fpetter_solberg%2Fral ly_norway%2F4362673%2F&sl=no&tl=en

tolis
13th January 2009, 17:56
Pity that Mikkelsen could not find the budget for WRC this year, he is a huge talent. But lets see what he can do in P-WRC - and he is for sure going to have a seat for 2010 !!!


You, the Norwegians have many talents!!!
Bravo!!!!
Here in Greece there are no talents and no rally drivers interested in contesting in PWRC or JWRC.... :( :( :( :( :(

pettersolberg29
13th January 2009, 18:24
http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=&hl=no&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dagbladet.no%2F2009%2F01%2F13%2 Fsport%2Fmotorsport%2Frally%2Fpetter_solberg%2Fral ly_norway%2F4362673%2F&sl=no&tl=en

I'm not sure if people are just ignoring this, but it seems positive that Petter will get something done. Both Ford and Citroen are mentioned so that must be the delay in deciding which one to go for.

Psycho!
13th January 2009, 18:45
I'm not sure if people are just ignoring this, but it seems positive that Petter will get something done. Both Ford and Citroen are mentioned so that must be the delay in deciding which one to go for.
...and of course we will have to wait... :rolleyes: This "race" between Ford and Citroen is actually very positive for Petter,'cause the two teams will have to maka better suggestions in order to gain his signature.Not to mention the moral part of the story... ;)

Iskald
13th January 2009, 19:54
You, the Norwegians have many talents!!!
Bravo!!!!
Here in Greece there are no talents and no rally drivers interested in contesting in PWRC or JWRC.... :( :( :( :( :(

Norway was actually nowhere in rallying when the Solberg brothers came into the sport in 96-97. Finland has always been oceans ahead of us, and our neigbours Sweden was looked upon as big brother. Certainly we have passed the swedes now, and possibly we can gain on Finland (Tomi and you other finns, I know you will be protesting this...!). Anyway we have had what we call the Solberg effect. New talents dare to think that they could have a chance if they try. Of course Mikkelsen and Østberg has been blessed with rich fathers, but believe you me - they are not only spoiled kids, but very talented too. Other young guns steadily pops up these days; Brynildsen, Bieltvedt, Kjær and more will come. We have a "youth class", allowing drivers to start with rallying from the age of 16, before they can take their licence for road-driving. In the midst of the financial crisis we started up a new Subaru Cup last saturday, with no less than 19 spanking new Impreza Sti N14s on the start line. It doesn`t look too bad, actually...

noel157
13th January 2009, 19:59
...and of course we will have to wait... :rolleyes: This "race" between Ford and Citroen is actually very positive for Petter,'cause the two teams will have to maka better suggestions in order to gain his signature.Not to mention the moral part of the story... ;)

It could well be the other way around, perhaps Petter needs to make better suggestions to get a seat, or get the right kind of seat. I'm confident he'll be in something.

tolis
13th January 2009, 20:11
Norway was actually nowhere in rallying when the Solberg brothers came into the sport in 96-97. Finland has always been oceans ahead of us, and our neigbours Sweden was looked upon as big brother. Certainly we have passed the swedes now, and possibly we can gain on Finland (Tomi and you other finns, I know you will be protesting this...!). Anyway we have had what we call the Solberg effect. New talents dare to think that they could have a chance if they try. Of course Mikkelsen and Østberg has been blessed with rich fathers, but believe you me - they are not only spoiled kids, but very talented too. Other young guns steadily pops up these days; Brynildsen, Bieltvedt, Kjær and more will come. We have a "youth class", allowing drivers to start with rallying from the age of 16, before they can take their licence for road-driving. In the midst of the financial crisis we started up a new Subaru Cup last saturday, with no less than 19 spanking new Impreza Sti N14s on the start line. It doesn`t look too bad, actually...



Ι am really jealous....
what's your opinion(if you have) about greek rallying?
Very bad, unfortunately :( :( :(

Glee
13th January 2009, 20:26
500 posts!

It is for sure an interesting subject....