Jaenner Rallye 2009

[urabus-denoS2000]

I think its time to begin the discussion about the traditional first rally of the new year.

Even though it is not counted for the Czech championship,it still has a good entry list (not finished yet) with foreign drivers like Valousek (in my opinion the king of this rally),Orsak,Blomqvist,Gassner sr. and jr. and Gavlak taking on the local Austrian drivers like Stohl,Baumschlager,Waldherr and Rosenberger.

http://www.jaennerrallye.at/uploads/media/nennliste_01.pdf

[Mirek]

Finaly nice entry list even though the date is veeeeeery bad for foreign crews. Stohl should be the man to beat. Nice to see crazy Klausner again.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Mirek,are you going to be there?

[Mirek]

I'm not sure. Maybe yes, maybe no...

[urabus-denoS2000]

]I'm not sure. Maybe yes, maybe no...

Same here

[urabus-denoS2000]

PLuto?

[Mirek]

Yes, he should be there.

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting that northern french crew Christophe Ghillet and Stéphane Dieu is also taking part to the rally :)

[Mirek]

Roman Odložilík will be there even though he is not on that entry list...

[WRC1]

]Roman Odložilík will be there even though he is not on that entry list...


with the peugeot??

[PLuto]

Yes, with Peugeot.

[WRC1]

Yes, with Peugeot.

great!! thx!

i hope the weather will stay as it is at the moment (lot of snow, and some more snowfalls are predicted until friday!!!!)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Very nice news!

Is that the final entrylist or what?

[PLuto]

I dont know. I think, if there will be any good driver with interest to start there, they will add him.

[urabus-denoS2000]

So nothing about that Fabia debut in Janner?

[Tom206wrc]

Are you sure Odlozilik will run the Jänner ???? :confused:


Looks like on current entrylist they already have definitive starting number... :mark:

[Wim_Impreza]

There are no numbers 2, 22 and 23 yet, so if he wants to drive this rally, he still can. ;)

[pucky54]

No 2 is reserved for Kopecky

[WRC1]

No 2 is reserved for Kopecky


unfortunatly this will not happen...in the official press release from skoda motorsport they say the world premier of the skoda fabia s2000 will be in monte carlo

earlier it was planned to run the car at jänner with baumschlager, but than skoda decided to present the car in monte...

reg

wrc1

[urabus-denoS2000]

What Subaru is Stohl driving,who prepares it?

[WRC1]

What Subaru is Stohl driving,who prepares it?


it is a cng (gas) impreza n12, prepared of course by his company "stohl racing" and again in the colours of OMV

reg

wrc1

[urabus-denoS2000]

Thats a new car?

[Mirek]

WRC: No.2 realy should have been Kopecký...

We'll see about Odložilík. In the moment it looks like he will not be there :(

[WRC1]

]WRC: No.2 realy should have been Kopecký...

will have or should have?

that would be awsome and fantastic!! i think you know that in 1981 an specific car had it´s first outing at jänner rally, and it was very sucessfull....
it can only be a good sign when the fabia s2000 debutes in jänner rally aswell!!


]We'll see about Odložilík. In the moment it looks like he will not be there :(


sad....

@urabus-denoS2000: no, i dont think the car itself is new, it is only converted into gas-car, i think it will be the car wich patrick flodin drove in pwrc 2007 and markus benes in last years jänner rally
http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2008/02j%e4nnerrallye/2008_jaenner_subaru_benes_01.html

reg

wrc1

[urabus-denoS2000]

will have or should have?

that would be awsome and fantastic!! i think you know that in 1981 an specific car had it´s first outing at jänner rally, and it was very sucessfull....
it can only be a good sign when the fabia s2000 debutes in jänner rally aswell!!



And they are both part of the same group ;)

[Mirek]

WRC1: I think Škoda won't be there although we thought the opposite way few days a go :(

[Mirek]

Some crews are said to be cought during forbidden rece...

[Tom206wrc]

So who will wear the #2 at Jänner ???? :confused:

[Mirek]

Probably noone...

[jolle1982]

in austria a person of the osk said! kopecky drive at jänner rallye!!!! :D :D :D

[urabus-denoS2000]

in austria a person of the osk said! kopecky drive at jänner rallye!!!!

:s pin: :bounce: :s pin: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great!!!!!!!!
If it is true of course

[Mirek]

I don't think it's true...

[urabus-denoS2000]

Odložilik?

[urabus-denoS2000]

I heard there is no snow....

[Wim_Impreza]

I heard there is no snow....

I read that too on the forum of rallye-magazin.de

[urabus-denoS2000]

Janner is not Janner without snow.

From what I understood from a disasterous translation from Czech to Croatian (and they are similar languages,cant imagine what would happen with English) Saturdays stages are dry while Sunday is mostly ice (not snow but ice)

[WRC1]

I read that too on the forum of rallye-magazin.de

unfortunatly this is (partly) right....


the first leg (saturday) is complete without snow, there may be a little bit new snow during friday, but i am afraid this will not be enough.

BUT the first 4 stages (2 repeated stages) of 2nd leg are completly covered with snow and due the low temperatures expected for the next days this snow will stay till sunday!

the drivers talking about 3 rallyes in one: first day a tarmac rallye with a few icy places, than a real snow-sprint rally over 4 stages, and on sunday afternoon again mainly tarmac, but with lot more ice than on saturday!!

reg

wrc1

[hari]

Some fotos and a video of Raimund Baumschlager testing for the Jaenner Rallye in snowy conditions can be found here: http://www.ir7.at/fotosrosenau301208.html

[urabus-denoS2000]

So Mundl is in an Evo IX

[Barreis]

Really bad thing 'cos these Mitsubishi's and Subaru's don' t have seqentual gearbox..

[Mirek]

Urabus: Evo X should have been sold...

[urabus-denoS2000]

Mirek:To who?

Barreis:Evo X doesnt have sequential gearbox

[Mirek]

I don't know, I just heard that.

[Mirek]

Photos from stages, very cold but no snow on most of the stages...

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=10197

[Wim_Impreza]

Will Pavel Valoušek jun. start the rally? He told me that, if there is not enough snow, he won't start. Let's hope he will start the rally, he is always very fast and spectacular on this rally.

[Mirek]

I think he will start.

[urabus-denoS2000]

So I guess Odložilik is not starting?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Where can I find maps?

[Mirek]

Onboards from shakedown (Stohl, Orsák) on http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2009

[pantealex]

]Onboards from shakedown (Stohl, Orsák) on http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2009
There is mitsubishi badge in video, but car has subaru scoop on bonnet!

[Mirek]

Stohl has Subaru, Orsák Mitsubishi. That's for sure. I haven't seen video...

[Mirek]

Shakedown results:

1. Gassner Hermann jun.-Wüstenhagen Kathi D Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:07.9
2. Valoušek Pavel-Hrůza Zdeněk CZ Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:08.2
3. Waldherr Andreas-Jeitler Richard A Volkswagen Polo S2000 N4 1:08.7
4. Pasteiner Reinhard-Fuchs Fredi A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:09.4
5. Baumschlager Raimund-Zeltner Thomas A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:09.7
6. Haneder Ernst-Kregl Philipp A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:09.9
7. Blomqvist Stig-Spjuth Ragnar S Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:10.0
8. Běhálek Daniel-Černohorský Petr CZ Subaru Impreza STI N4 1:10.2
9. Černý Jan-Kohout Pavel CZ Subaru Impreza STI N4 1:10.8
10. Rosenberger Kris-Monego Tina-Maria A Subaru Impreza STI N4 1:11.0
11. Orsák Jaroslav-Vajík Karel CZ Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:11.2
12. Benes Markus-Wannenmacher Norbert A Subaru Impreza STI N4 1:11.4
13. Aigner Gerhard-Rausch Jürgen A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VI N4 1:11.6
14. Stohl Manfred-Minor Ilka A Subaru Impreza STI CNG N4 1:12.1
15. Sonnleitner Franz-Oismüller Fritz A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo III H10 1:12.1
16. Keferböck Johannes.Punz Karin A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:12.7
17. Egger Markus-Königshofer Johann A Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VIII N4 1:12.8
18. Mayrhofer Johann-Mayrhofer Maria A Subaru Impreza WRX N4 1:13.5
19. Taddei Alessandro-Gaspari Andrea I Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX N4 1:13.5
20. Klausner Christof-Stummer Daniela A Audi Quattro H10 1:13.6

From Czech drivers Odložilík, Štěpánek and Havel are not present.

There is also Valoušek's onboard on http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2009 He did only one run so that it's the second fastest time for sure.

[Barreis]

Go on Stig!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Live results from tomorrow ;)

http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/ostatni/janner/1absolut.php

[Mirek]

Photos:
http://www.rallyefreaks.de/index.php?option=com_ponygallery&Itemid=55&func=viewcategory&catid=213
http://www.rallyefreaks.de/components/com_ponygallery/img_pictures/originals/20090102_1759806562_shakedown_11.jpg

Stohl had some technical troubles with his CNG Impreza.

[wwbroe]

Great times for Waldherr and especially Valousek, who is making best time on first stage of the rally. Those two are allready a lot in front of Baumschlager (18 sec). ;) By the way, i don't see Stohl in times of first stage? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Strange starting order for Stohl whereas he wears the #1 :s

[Filip]

Stohl and Gassner jun,. switched places.
Great time for Stig!!! :)

[Tom206wrc]

I say go Waldherr, I want the S2000 to beat the GrNs :p :

[Filip]

Go Valda!! :p :p

[Tom206wrc]

2s between Valousek and Waldherr after 2 stages :)

The third one(Baumschlager)already +23s :mark:

[wwbroe]

Yes, another best time for Valda. :bounce: :bounce:

[HaCo]

Wonder how the stages are looking like...

[Wim_Impreza]

Go Valda, Orsák and Gaßner jun. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Still no Stohl on SS2... :s



Edit: he appeared "in progress" ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Nice performance by Andreas Waldherr in the first 2 stages...
Maybe Polo S2000 improved a little bit from 2008...

[dumb]

Before the rally Stig Blomqvist was catched by police.
After supper he was going to hotel with his EVO IX (?). So he decided to try all his lamps (including very powerful extra rally lamps). But in front of him was police car and they noticed Stig's EVO. Stig didn't found rented car documents and showed just his license. He had to pay 20 euros :)

According http://www.rallynews.lt

[Wim_Impreza]

]Nice performance by Andreas Waldherr in the first 2 stages...
Maybe Polo S2000 improved a little bit from 2008...

I think the lack of snow is also good for him. The Group N is normally better on snow so I expect tomorrow, when there is a bit snow on the road, that Baumschlager and Gassner can fighting with Waldherr.

[Tom206wrc]

Problem for Valousek in SS3 :eek:


Waldherr leading !!! GOOOOO :bounce:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It look's like something wrong with Valda on SS 3...

[Tom206wrc]

Kris Rosenberger drives rather difficultly his GrN unlike the Polo S2000 he drove last year :s

[wwbroe]

Who has news about what happened with Valda on stage 3? :(

[Mirek]

Valoušek lost wheel after hitting a stockpille, he retired :(

The roads are mostly dry, a lot of dirt and some ice. Stohl's CNG Impreza is veeery slow (and the CNG car is that's why he can't start first, Tom).

[pucky54]

...broken wheel

[alterdaxter]

broken wheel

you can read it when you put your mouse on the carnumber in the SS progress



korneel

[Mirek]

It should have happened in slow icy corner.

[Tom206wrc]

]Valoušek lost wheel after hitting a stockpille, he retired :(

The roads are mostly dry, a lot of dirt and some ice. Stohl's CNG Impreza is veeery slow (and the CNG car is that's why he can't start first, Tom).



Stohl is slow on SS3 especially or you mean since start of the rally :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

What a pity for Valda. :( Very young Czech driver Jan Černý is for sure a very talented driver. It is his first rally in an Impreza and so fast, hopefully he can stay on the road for the whole rally.

[Mirek]

Tom206wrc: The car was slow even on shakedown...

Wim_Impreza: Černý did one local (mostly amateur drivers) rally in Impreza in the autumn and clearly won it. It's Běhálek's second car. Běhálek himself was having intercom troubles in first two stages.

[Wim_Impreza]

Ok, thank you Mirek. :)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Another stage victory for Waldherr...

Nice fight between Gassner Senior and Gassner Jr...

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Waldherr can win, showing the other top drivers they should have left their GrNs to take S2000s instead :cool:

[Dejan]

I hope Waldherr can win, showing the other top drivers they should have left their GrNs to take S2000s instead :cool:

Do you think that they drive GrN cars because they like it so much??

[Tom206wrc]

Do you think that they drive GrN cars because they like it so much??



I'm sure some have enough budget to drive S2000s :rolleyes:

[Jarek Z]

I also keep my fingers crossed for Waldherr and his Volkswagen. Where do you follow the live results?

[Wim_Impreza]

I also keep my fingers crossed for Waldherr and his Volkswagen. Where do you follow the live results?

http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/ostatni/janner/5absolut.php

[Tom206wrc]

I also keep my fingers crossed for Waldherr and his Volkswagen. Where do you follow the live results?



http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/ostatni/janner/1absolut.php ;)



Edit: Wim was faster :laugh:

[Jarek Z]

It's good to be fast in the world of rallying :) Thanks guys!

Did you notice a Polish crew in the 68th position?
http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/ostatni/janner/3absolut.php

If I remember correctly, they are guys from my city...
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=3281&pg_[go]=26

[Wim_Impreza]

Did you notice a Polish crew in the 68th position?
http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2009/ostatni/janner/3absolut.php

Yes, hopefully they can finish the rally.

[Filip]

Also have you noticed Andrea DeLuna, who was veeery attractive last year, and now he is pushing his Clio for 15th overall? :D

[Tom206wrc]

SS6 running ;)

[Mirek]

Orsák has engine troubles (14 minutes late) and is not sure how far the car goes...

[Tom206wrc]

What a battle between Gassner father and son for the 3rd place overall(only 1.5s separate them after SS6) :)

[Tom206wrc]

Orsak 3rd fastest time :D

Crap this engine that made him out 14 mn late :mad:

[Dejan]

Waldherr got 10s penalty: 1 M Late at TC 5A (00:10)

[Tom206wrc]

10s penalty for Waldherr :(

[Wim_Impreza]

Rosenberger retired after SS5 due to a gearbox failure.

[Tom206wrc]

Strange the gap time before Stohl starts on stage... :confused:

[Mirek]

Why strange? Austrian champ must be separated according to the rulles because it contains many cars without internationl homologation (including Stohl's one). Don't forget that Jänner is FIA European Cup Central event.

[Tom206wrc]

]Why strange? Austrian champ must be separated according to the rulles because it contains many cars without internationl homologation (including Stohl's one). Don't forget that Jänner is FIA European Cup Central event.



I didn't know this rule, different to other championships... ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Finally Waldherr didn't won a stage after Valda's retirement

[Mirek]

It looks like Černý had to pass Liška at the end of stage 8 and also at stage 6 they look to finish together...

Edit: They have 2 minutes between them after SS6.

[PLuto]

]Valoušek lost wheel after hitting a stockpille, he retired :(

The roads are mostly dry, a lot of dirt and some ice. Stohl's CNG Impreza is veeery slow (and the CNG car is that's why he can't start first, Tom).

Valda in fast right corner left the road and broke left front wheel. There were no ice, he told he wasnt so fast. He doesnt know what happened...

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/userpics/10002/Valou%C5%A1ek_1.jpg

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Will he restart tomorrow?

[PLuto]

I didn't know this rule, different to other championships... ;)

It is normal rule - if you have cars without international homologation, these cars cannot start in normal starting order, but in "separate group".

[PLuto]

]Will he restart tomorrow?

No, he wont. There isnt reason why continue.

[PLuto]

Some photos from Janner: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=87

[Tom206wrc]

Orsak retired before SS9 ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

Orsák definitely retired with engine problems after SS8.

[ProRally]

Where is Stohl's cng car ?

[Mirek]

10th place overal. No. 1, can You see him in results?

[PLuto]

Where is Stohl's cng car ?

Now is on the liaison between SS 10 and SS 11 :D

[Mirek]

Leading 2WD Danzinger retired due to mechanical problem :(

[Salist]

Pictures from the shakedown and first day?

[Mirek]

There are two links on photos in this thread, I think that 6 pages are not too much ;)

Černý lost almost a minute on SS11 :(

Here are onboards. Regularly updated: http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2009

[Salist]

]There are two links on photos in this thread, I think that 6 pages are not too much ;)

Černý lost almost a minute on SS11 :(

Here are onboards. Regularly updated: http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2009

Thanks Mirek, but I saw this pictures: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=87
;)

[Mirek]

First day photos: http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=469&au=0

[Tom206wrc]

So Waldherr has 1'14" advantage over Baumschlager and Gassner family after leg one... :cool:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Just came back frozen like a penguin from a FANTASTIC sideways rallying day!
Saw 5 spectacular stages and a lot of action.The most spectacular were Klausner in his Audi,Glisic in BMW M3,Taddei in his Evo IX and de Luna (although I expected more sideways from him,looks like he decided to be fast).
I am very impressed by Černy and dissapointed in Stohl (in his car exactly).
I am very happy that there were a lot of competitive Subarus :)

Although the starting order was very complicated.
Gassner jr. started first with number 14.By my logic,he was given 14 in 2008 but he got FIA B prority in 2009,thus starting first.Also I dont think that the car with number 1 on it should start 10th on the road.
And they divided FIA cup drivers from Austrian championship,which I can understand.

[Mirek]

Černý had a spin on SS11 and the engine stalled for a long time. That was the reason why he lost almost a minute.

[PLuto]

Although the starting order was very complicated.
Gassner jr. started first with number 14.By my logic,he was given 14 in 2008 but he got FIA B prority in 2009,thus starting first.Also I dont think that the car with number 1 on it should start 10th on the road.
And they divided FIA cup drivers from Austrian championship,which I can understand.

With Gassner jun., you are true - they were making entry list, but he got FIA B priority later. About starting number - it is usual, that first group are EC drivers and then other drivers with non international homologated cars. It is rule, which must be used on each rally counted into ERC or EC. It is "mistake" by organisers to give number 1 to Stohl, because they had known he will use CNG car, which cannot start in EC due to only national homologation.

[Tom206wrc]

No snow today neither...advantage S2000 again ;)

Waldherr increases his gap with Baumschlager after SS13 :cool:

[Tom206wrc]

Good time by Stohl and Blomqvist :eek:


Terrible time by Gassner Jr and Gavlak :(

[Tom206wrc]

Waldherr lost 20s on Baumschlager on SS14 :confused:

[PLuto]

SS 13 and 14 are 50% snow and ice, 50% dry. All crews from top are using studded tyres.

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the info Pluto ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Again a good time by Stohl !!! Looks like the Gas Subaru performs better on ice/snow :)

Now Blomqvist 8th position is in danger ;)

[Wim_Impreza]

Mention also the 6th time for Christof Klausner in his Audi. :)

Haneder and Černý are in the same time now, huge battle for 5th place.

[Tom206wrc]

...
Haneder and Černý are in the same time now, huge battle for 5th place.




They put in danger Gassner Jr and his 4th place :p :

[Tom206wrc]

OUCH !!!! Blomqvist lost a lot in SS15 :s :s

[Tom206wrc]

And almost 3 minutes lost for Stohl :( :(

[Wim_Impreza]

OUCH !!!! Blomqvist lost a lot in SS15 :s :s

Stohl lost much more...

[Tom206wrc]

Jan Cerny is doing a good job(5th overall after SS15) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

In fact Blomqvist and Stohl were slowed by ambulance on SS15 :eek: :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Go Černy!
He is now 9 seconds behind Gassner jr. and 4th place!

Tom do you know what happened?

[Tom206wrc]

Oh nooooo Baumschlager is only 38s late on Waldherr after SS16 !!!! ;(


Go Waldherr !!!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Either Mundl decided to really push (less possible) or Waldherr is having problems (more possible)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Again impressive times by Stohl (2nd) and Stig (3rd).
Gassner jr. took 11 seconds from Černy and now has 20 seconds

Stohl and Stig moving to 6th and 7th with 0.2 seconds between them ;)
Černy must watch,both of them sre 20 seconds behind him and they are the fastest men today

[Tom206wrc]

Stohl 6th and Blomqvist 7th after SS16 :)

[PLuto]

Either Mundl decided to really push (less possible) or Waldherr is having problems (more possible)

Waldherr is without problems, but snowy stage 14/16 is good for Mundl, he is out of other drivers, also Stohl, Blomqvist and Benes knows this stage very well and are fast.

[PLuto]

For last one hour, it is snowing on stages 15, 16 and also in Freistadt. Last stages 17, 18 (same road, 25 kms) was clean three hours ago, but know is heavily snowing...

[PLuto]

In fact Blomqvist and Stohl were slowed by ambulance on SS15 :eek: :confused:

Ambulance was going to some spectator (or civil?). Nothing with rally.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Thanks PLuto ;)

So it is snowing

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Either Mundl decided to really push (less possible) or Waldherr is having problems (more possible)

I think that tere is a big possibility of snow on the stages... that's why Waldherr is loosing to much time

[PLuto]

]I think that tere is a big possibility of snow on the stages... that's why Waldherr is loosing to much time

We will see on next stages. I will go to regrouping and ask them :s mokin:

[PLuto]

So, last stage was very difficult and tricky. Mundl was pushing hard, other drivers prefers slower version. Waldherr told, that this was dangerous stage and he doesnt want to risk, so with damaged spikes he prefers to go carefully.

[PLuto]

Tyre choice for SS 17: Waldherr D10 without spikes, Baumschlager and Gavlak wet Matador, both Gassner and Behalek wide tyres with spikes in and out, Cerny wide tyres withh spikes inside.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Tyre choice for SS 17: Waldherr D10 without spikes, Baumschlager and Gavlak wet Matador, both Gassner and Behalek wide tyres with spikes in and out, Cerny wide tyres withh spikes inside.

Very different choices,maybe this will make the difference

[Dejan]

Tyre choice for SS 17: Waldherr D10 without spikes, Baumschlager and Gavlak wet Matador, both Gassner and Behalek wide tyres with spikes in and out, Cerny wide tyres withh spikes inside.

What kind of tyre is D10?

[PLuto]

D10 is wide snow tyre, normally with studs.

[PLuto]

Haneder, Blomqvist and Stohl are using D10 with studs.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

SS17 is running.. let's see who had the better tyre choice for the last stages...

[PLuto]

SS 17 stopped

[HaCo]

Yep, exciting. Fingers crossed for the VW team!

[HaCo]

SS 17 stopped
Ugh, what happened? :(

[PLuto]

SS 17 cancelled. Waldherr rolled...

[HaCo]

SS 17 cancelled. Waldherr rolled...
Pffff :(

[urabus-denoS2000]

Are they OK?

[PLuto]

Are they OK?

It was near finish of the stage. It seems that crew is OK, car not.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I cant believe this,5 minutes ago I thought "This is an interesting rally and that something major is going to happen"

[PLuto]

News from SS 17. In downhill on ice Waldherr wasnt able to brake his car, so he choose bank instead of trees and broke a wheel on his car. Second arrived Baumschlager and had the same problem, he spun and hit Waldherr`s car, which knock him to another side. It is a good luck for Mundl, that his car is without any problem. From drivers, tyres without studs was completely wrong choice.

[morganmilan]

ss17 has been cancelled. ss18?

[PLuto]

SS 18 will start in time

[PLuto]

Everybody is taking for SS 18 narrow snow tyres GA with studs.

[morganmilan]

Thanks Pluto. Sorry for Waldherr. I suppose Baumschlager has retired too. Anyone else?

[PLuto]

Baumschlager continues...

[alterdaxter]

and Baumschlager wins the Jänner Rallye for the third time...

too bad for the Polo that showed to be very competitive during this difficult rally

[PLuto]

Baumschlager had big good luck, his opponents retired and his bad tyre choice for SS 17 saved Waldherr. But, from my point of view, not so good for Mundl was changing tyres (as other austrian drivers) in 10 minutes service after SS 2...

[GTA]

Bad luck for Andreas Waldherr :( . but this is rallying and the conditions were very tricky...... the revenge will come soon in next rally's.. :) .. he showed that he and the VW Polo S2000 is a big contender for the 2009 championship....

[Barreis]

Baumschlager had big good luck, his opponents retired and his bad tyre choice for SS 17 saved Waldherr. But, from my point of view, not so good for Mundl was changing tyres (as other austrian drivers) in 10 minutes service after SS 2...

What does this mean? Exclusion?

[urabus-denoS2000]

Both Stohl and Stig overtook Černy and finished 4th,5th and 6th respectively.Gassner family 2nd and 3rd,advantage to senior :)

Congratulations to Mundl and more luck for Waldherr on the following rallies (pic of the Polo?) !!!! ;)

Thanks to PLuto for info from the service park and thanks to Tom for co-comentatorship ;)
So we have officially welcomed the 2009 rally season

[jolle1982]

pictures of all three days are Online!!!

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/components/com_ponygallery/img_pictures/20090103_1917876346_samsatg_09.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/components/com_ponygallery/img_pictures/20090103_1327802206_samsatg_48.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/components/com_ponygallery/img_pictures/20090104_1192862224_sonntag_05.jpg

http://www.rallyefreaks.de/index.php?option=com_ponygallery&Itemid=55&func=viewcategory&catid=212

[Mirek]

First day video with one crash: http://www.stream.cz/video/211138-rally-janner

[hari]

A 15 minutes video of the Jaenner Rallye: http://www.ir7.at/newsnjaenner09.html#video

And some Fotos: http://www.ir7.at/fotosjaenner2009.html

[Mirek]

Very nice video but there is no Černý there :(

Another video from first day: http://www.stream.cz/video/211572-janner-rallye-2009

[Mirek]

http://www.mediasport.cz/videa/rok-2009

Waldherr crash onboard

[[Madeira-Rally]]

News from SS 17. In downhill on ice Waldherr wasnt able to brake his car, so he choose bank instead of trees and broke a wheel on his car. Second arrived Baumschlager and had the same problem, he spun and hit Waldherr`s car, which knock him to another side. It is a good luck for Mundl, that his car is without any problem. From drivers, tyres without studs was completely wrong choice.

After watching the video that Mirek posted... I can't see Waldherr choosing to hit the bank... It was a normal crash...

[Mirek]

Very nice hi-res videos from ewrc:
http://www.rallyvidea.com/?ref=1&id=8&video=2009/Janner_rally_2009_eWRC_MravenecZ.wmv
http://www.rallyvidea.com/?ref=1&id=8&video=2009/Janner_rally_2009_eWRC_VFT.avi

There is also Baumschlager's onboard on mediasport.cz and there I can see he didn't hit Waldherr...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

]Very nice hi-res videos from ewrc:
http://www.rallyvidea.com/?ref=1&id=8&video=2009/Janner_rally_2009_eWRC_MravenecZ.wmv
http://www.rallyvidea.com/?ref=1&id=8&video=2009/Janner_rally_2009_eWRC_VFT.avi

There is also Baumschlager's onboard on mediasport.cz and there I can see he didn't hit Waldherr...

We must be careful with some infos :s mokin:

[urabus-denoS2000]

By watching different videos,I have came up with an idea ! :bulb:
Can we count how many sticks by the road did Niki Glisic in his BMW M3 destroy? :D :D :rotflmao:

[rallyelee]

more Fotos http://www.rallyesportfotos.de

Jörg

[PLuto]

]After watching the video that Mirek posted... I can't see Waldherr choosing to hit the bank... It was a normal crash...

I am also surprised, because my info was directly from drivers... But in Austria is everything possible (for example cancelling 1 minute early penalty for crew from top 15, not excluding crew which miss time control etc.).

[WRC1]

my pictures from jänner rallye

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/01jaenner/

reg

wrc1

[[Madeira-Rally]]

my pictures from jänner rallye

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/01jaenner/

reg

wrc1

As usual great pictures ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

WRC1 I saw your car but I didnt see you.

Now I understand where your nickname comes from ;)

[WRC1]

WRC1 I saw your car but I didnt see you.

Now I understand where your nickname comes from ;)



there are several cars in austria with this numberplate from different regions ;o)
mine is the white octavia!

sorry we did not manage to meet....

@[Madeira-Rally]: THX!!!!

reg

wrc1

[urabus-denoS2000]

I know yours is an Octavia,caravan with a small rallyepics.at sticker ;)

Nice pics by the way ;)

[dimviii]

very good pictures WRC1! ;)

will you come at Acropolis?

[WRC1]

thx guys!


@dimviii: i would love to come to greece again, i was there only once, 2002 when the rally was in itea for last time i think, we stayed in galaxidi and it was simply great!!! best fish i ever had!! the stages where fantastic! and Colin won!!

reg

wrc1

[CWJ]

sorry we did not manage to meet....
reg
wrc1

but we did already at shakedown. thanks a lot mate for guiding us, we will join you for hungary soon... !

[tolis]

thx guys!


i would love to come to greece again, i was there only once, 2002 when the rally was in itea for last time i think, we stayed in galaxidi and it was simply great!!! best fish i ever had!!
reg

wrc1

Why dont you come again in Greece to watch together our stages??? I will treat you fresh fish from our Aegean sea!!!!
We will have great fun!!!

[modri dirkac]

I have (maybe) a stupid question or I missed the answers: what happened with Lancers Evolution (X) of Baumschlager and Gassner Senior? :confused: Too slow on snow or not really ready yet? ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Baumschlager sold his X,I dont know about Gassner

[Mirek]

I think everyone wait for new parts according to the new 2009 rulles...

[tolis]

Baumschlager sold his X,I dont know about Gassner

Why???

[Mirek]

Baumschlager's job is to built and sell cars ;)

[tolis]

]Baumschlager's job is to built and sell cars ;)

Thanks Mirek!!!

[Nowi]

My photos from Jänner rally at http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=730&fotograf=95&all=1 or in high-quality at http://www.czechrallyeweb.net

[PLuto]

Few pictures from Jänner Rallye: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/thumbnails.php?album=87

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090112/thumb_Waldherr_2.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090106/thumb_Baumgartner.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090112/thumb_Glisic_2.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090106/thumb_Gavl%E1k_6.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090112/thumb_zz_atmosf%E9ra_4.jpg

[Sam Austria]

Hi, if anybody interested in more photos from the Jänner, take a look here at our page :
http://www.motorsport-austria.com/categories.php?cat_id=15

Sam

[werner]

Dear friends,

a short webTV report from 2009 Int. Jännerrallye

http://www.yoovis.tv/thema/index.aspx?umenu=video_detail&id=1744&verein=1511

regards

werner