Marcus & Timo returns?

[jbmarcus21]

New article on line here.. But i dont understand it.. If somebody can translate ?

http://yle.fi/urheilu/lajit/moottoriurheilu/ralli/2008/10/gronholmin_veri_vetaa_takaisin_ralliteille_124478. html

[OldF]

Google translation:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fyle.fi%2Furheilu%2Flajit% 2Fmoottoriurheilu%2Fralli%2F2008%2F10%2Fgronholmin _veri_vetaa_takaisin_ralliteille_124478.html&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&sl=fi&tl=en

[jbmarcus21]

Ok thanks.. But no really news this article..

Just Marcus positive or negative about come back ?

[Tomi]

Ok thanks.. But no really news this article..

Just Marcus positive or negative about come back ?

More like mixed feelings same with Timo too.

[RS]

Is Marcus still contracted to Ford for next year?

[jbmarcus21]

More like mixed feelings same with Timo too.

Thanks.. ;)

Yess RS if Marcus come back, to stay in Ford will the best choice .. With Stobart for example

[Tomi]

Thanks.. ;)

Yess RS if Marcus come back, to stay in Ford will the best choice .. With Stobart for example

It wont be Ford.

[Viking]

So you believe more in the Marcus and Mikkel to Subaru rumour?

[jbmarcus21]

difficult to be in Subaru, Solberg Petter has announced his driving Subaru 2009..

With Ford, it will nice, to Stobart Team with Mikkelsen or Duval .. ?

[Tomi]

difficult to be in Subaru, Solberg Petter has announced his driving Subaru 2009..

Lol, but has subaru confirmed that?

[N.O.T]

subaru ?? I think he could perform better in a rally car instead...

[jbmarcus21]

Lol, but has subaru confirmed that?

i dont know.. ?

[Viking]

Lol, but has subaru confirmed that?

Petter has said that he will not breake the contract, meaning that Subaru (if it is the case) has to do it. Cheaper to buy out Atko perhaps?

[Tomi]

subaru ?? I think he could perform better in a rally car instead...

True offcourse, but it could be alot of fun.

[grugsticles]

Hmm, I had not heard the Gronholm/Subaru rumour up until just now. Is there any moe reading available on that?

If there was indeed some truth behind it then I think it would do Subaru good. In my eyes, Gronholm is still at the top of his game even though he has not competed in the WRC for nearly a year. You dont go off your game THAT much in a year. If Subaru drafted Marcus for a few rallys throughout the season (Im thinking the likes of Monte/Finland/GB/NZ - the ones he enjoys so he has motivation) then I think it would be a bit like Tommi's infuence on Petter when he joined Subaru in 2000(?).

The only downside I could see would be the financial side of things, but Im sure somone of Marcus' forte could quite easily muster up the required sponsorship.

[Buzz Lightyear]

It will be Mikkelson and Gronholm in Subaru M2 team, with Mikkelson picking up the tab for the whole lot, and SWRT paying Marcus retainer.

[RS]

Marcus must really want a challenge if these rumours are true.

[DonJippo]

Marcus must really want a challenge if these rumours are true.

What is true is that Marcus has been approached by Subaru for a drive for next year.

[Tom206wrc]

I thought Bosse was hesitating between Subaru and Citroën :confused:

[Livewireshock]

I thought Bosse was hesitating between Subaru and Citroën :confused:

Open cheque books can do that to a driver!

[jbmarcus21]

Maybe a seat for Marcus in Team B Subaru ?? Richards don't know for the moment If Team B will be M2 or extension of Subaru M1 with Solberg and Atkinson...

http://www.wrc.com/jsp/index.jsp?lnk=101&id=3025&desc=Six%20Subarus%20in%20the%20WRC%20next%20year

[jonkka]

Despite rumors, Marcus won't be back says today's farmer's newspaper (again, only in Finnish):

http://www.maaseuduntulevaisuus.fi/uutiset/paauutiset/09/fi_FI/gronholm_ei_palaa_ralliin/

[jbmarcus21]

:( :( :( :( :(

[jbmarcus21]

Strange this news ... It seems the same things Marcus said in 2007 retired..

[Finni]

In finnish mtv3 Marcus says that he will no more drive entire season but might drive one or more rallies. The sound was that he is probably doing at least one rally. He said that rally norway could be nice.

[jbmarcus21]

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2008/10/739209 ;)

[jbmarcus21]

Duval will drive GB Rally ??.. Doubt appears about this.
He said yesterday, no drive without P.Pivato. For Pivato is really impossible to see him, to codrive in GB Rally.. Soon...

Now big problem for BP Ford.. without Duval and Galli ...

Do you think Malcom play the manufacturers title completly ?? And say to Marcus to help them for GB ?

[Buzz Lightyear]

where is the problem? nominate solberg for stobart.

[Jaanus]

Stobart was supposed to run 4 cars in Wales. Duval, Wilson, H.Solberg and Clark. They can nominate Solberg or Clark instead of Duval without any big problem. Offcourse they need FIA special permission, but it should not be a problem when there is a good medical reason for it.

[Buzz Lightyear]

the biggest problem for msport is there is one less ford on rally gb. which isnt really a big problem, other than its less "coupons" for msport.

[jbmarcus21]

where is the problem? nominate solberg for stobart.

the problem is to nominate a great driver, to be ahead Loeb.. ;)

[pettersolberg29]

Here could be a turn up for the books!

http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/gronholm-mikkelsen-subaru-test/

[jbmarcus21]

Here could be a turn up for the books!

http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/gronholm-mikkelsen-subaru-test/


WAZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

what's going on again ?????????

[alexlake]

would love to see Marcus in a subaru!

[jbmarcus21]

we never know


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[bennizw]

The test in the UK with Mikkelsen i supposed to be BS. Andreas and Citroën have gone out in media today and said that he is heading for Citroën, but he is missing the last 1 million Euroes to finalize it.

[jbmarcus21]

few days to wait the decision....

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus & Timo are back !!!!!???

This link : http://www.autonewsinfo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=1&Itemid=48

8 rounds on 12 ;)

[noel157]

I wonder how true? They couldn't even spell his name correctly. And nothing on the English news sites.

English translation:

"According to our information from England.

Markus Gronholm''signed on Wednesday with Team Subaru for a program to start including eight of the twelve tests in the World Rally Championship WRC 2009! "

That spice to move on next season and will enjoy our five World Champion, Sébastien Loeb. Which is with the return of large Finnish driver, a source of motivation to try to seek a sixth world crown.

Recall that the former double World Champion of specialty had retired from the sport last year stating worn by all his years of competition "

Contacted by the Subaru team, Marcus had recently conducted tests deemed very promising Wales

At first, there are few weeks, Gronholm had indicated "wanting to ride in 2009 in the WRC Rally in competing on snow like Norway"

Finally, leaders of Team Subaru and its owner Dave Richards managed to persuade him to contest most of the events (eight out of twelve)

We can not in any case welcome this good news because Marcus Gronholm if a driver is among the most gifted seen in World Championship,''adds his undeniable talent,''elegance, refinement and major distinction Champions!"

[MikeD]

Marcus & Timo are back !!!!!???

This link : http://www.autonewsinfo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=1&Itemid=48

8 rounds on 12 ;)


Sorry, but I don't buy it.

[DonJippo]

Sorry, but I don't buy it.

Well time will tell... ;)

[Woodeye]

http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/autourheilu/artikkeli/Marcus+Gr%C3%B6nholm+panttaa+yh%C3%A4+tietoa+ralli uransa+mahdollisesta+jatkamisesta/1135241558844

In finnish, but the keypoints are:

- Grönholm cannot comment to rumours about his drive in Norway since according to him, nothing has been agreed. He has thought about things, but honestly he don't know yet.

-About the Subaru tests in England last September, Marcus hasn't tested Subaru, but he was following the tests.

-Grönholm will be in Wales next weekend, but he has some "Ford-stuff" to do there. Nothing to do with Subaru.

[Buzz Lightyear]

I think Marcus will try and diffuse the situation, as he is obviously still contract to Ford in some way till year end.
If Marcus says he didnt test the Subaru, then he didnt test the Subaru, and would lead me to belive there is little substance to the rumour, because how could there be serious negiotations, if he never sat in the car?
The Petter blog thing is confusing. Why did he do this?! I really do think Petter actually reads these forums and puts 2 and 2 together to get 9,435,562.

BTW... is Marcus working in a supermarket now? What is with the photo in the article above?

[A.F.F.]

BTW... is Marcus working in a supermarket now? What is with the photo in the article above?


He owns a mall in Inkoo where he and his wife work as managers.

I think I'll have kiss some serious a s s and try to make something out of my bulvan :p :

[Tomi]

I think I'll have kiss some serious a s s and try to make something out of my bulvan :p :

Is it the same guy who said Bosse would drive selected events this year?

[A.F.F.]

Is it the same guy who said Bosse would drive selected events this year?

Yes, among other things :p :

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus & Timo are back apparently.. Full season 2008 - Subaru WRT !

[teufel]

Marcus & Timo are back apparently.. Full season 2008 - Subaru WRT !

the 2008 season is over and i cannot remember Bosse in any Subaru... :)

[jbmarcus21]

2009 sorry ;)

[Buzz Lightyear]

Have you never heard of string theory and parallel universes? Marcus was 5 times WRC Champion and Loeb changed his name to Anthoy Warmbold, and never made it...

[OldF]

Not yet, but close.

"The double world champion Rally Champion Marcus Grönholm has confirmed that Subaru has offered him the opportunity to run the full World Cup series next season.
The committee says the Ilta-Sanomat.
- The offer has been submitted.
But I do not really know what to do, said Grönholm IS: lle."


http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2008/12/760961

Google translated:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mtv3.fi%2Furheilu%2Fr alli%2Fuutiset.shtml%2Farkistot%2Fralli%2F2008%2F1 2%2F760961&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&sl=fi&tl=en

[Buzz Lightyear]

"But I do not really know what to do, said Grönholm"

I know what to do.... take €2m euros off Subaru.. beat Petter and Chris, Loeb wins the championship... again... and its the car that not quick enough.

[Viking]

"A Manufacturer must inform the FIA of the name of the first driver entered for the season at the time of registration for the Championship.
Except in a case of force majeure recognised as such by the World Rally Championship Commission, no change of the first driver initially designated is authorised.

The driver of the second car may be changed for each of the rallies in the Championship. The name of the second driver must be notified to the
FIA no later than 5 weeks prior to the start of the Rally concerned."


So if he wants car "5 he must make up his mind before 15th December,
Car "6 23rd December

[ttiirika]

Finnish Rally Forum site: http://www.ralli.net/rnet/index.php?op=NEArticle&sid=3690

Nothing is confirmed or signed. Many questions open (at least inside Bosse's head).

[Viking]

I like this "Subaru curse for finnish drivers" teori :)
But Kankkunen did not do to bad, or did he?

[alleskids]

If Gronholm wants a challange to fill his large amount of spare time and exercise his reflections and brain again, he found the right one in making Subaru's win again. It also would wake up Loeb's motivation to do another WRC year. He tried the <do not finish a couple of times> methode this year to make it more exiting, but it failt in preventing him taking the title again. :)

[Bazza2541]

Dear Santa,
I have been the bestest wee boy ever this year.
Please please please can I have Gronholm in a Subaru for Christmas.
Please please.
Thank you.
Barry Boyle.

[Tomi]

Finnish Rally Forum site: http://www.ralli.net/rnet/index.php?op=NEArticle&sid=3690

Nothing is confirmed or signed. Many questions open (at least inside Bosse's head).

Seems to be quite many contract issues unsolved yet, it's no point to go there if he dont get a good testprogram and someone skilled driver like "Basti" to do the job.

[Buzz Lightyear]

Seems to be quite many contract issues unsolved yet, it's no point to go there if he dont get a good testprogram and someone skilled driver like "Basti" to do the job.

There could be some issue with Martin still there, as test driver? He obviously hasnt made giant leaps in pushing the team forward.

[alleskids]

Petter said that they (the engineers?) do noy listen to him, so why should they listen to Markko Martin? Maybe the engineers do not follow the info that the drivers give them and only folow the path into what they thing is the right way?

[cali]

Petter said that they (the engineers?) do noy listen to him, so why should they listen to Markko Martin? Maybe the engineers do not follow the info that the drivers give them and only folow the path into what they thing is the right way?
Somehow this reminds me the Pug 307 situation...

[Tomi]

Somehow this reminds me the Pug 307 situation...

or skoda fabia, big headed engineers sometime forget that someone has to drive the car also.

[Gard]

Then the engineers is up for a tough time. Petter and Chris doesn't exactly hide their opinions and Bosse sure will say what he means too. And so they should that's their job. Hire Tommi too.

[cali]

or skoda fabia, big headed engineers sometime forget that someone has to drive the car also.
Yeah, pity for Skoda - i actually liked this car, especially driven by McRae in Wales :up: . It showed that this car actually had potential.

Driving is more about the feel then just the numbers...

[jbmarcus21]

THE CHOICE !!??

Subaru or Ford for Marcus next year : http://www.planetemarcus.com

;)

[tmx]

Not sure if Marcus is interested in Subaru, but if he did it would be strange for me because the reason he quit rallying is because he was still successful at that time. I don't think coming back to rallying with Subaru at this time will bring success. I think this won't likely happen. Although I still would like to see another good driver in a Subaru to compare speed with Petter and Chris.

[TMorel]

TMX,
That's why Subaru is perfect for a one year "come back"

If the car is rubbish
Marcus is shown to care about the sport and help other teams but is let down by a rubbish car / ignorant engineers, and Petter is vindicated and maybe gets the car changes he deserves.

If the car is actually OK and it's the current drivers
Marcus is seen to be the driving god we all know.

By going back to Ford, anything less than winning the world championship would be seen as a loss.

[A.F.F.]

TMX,
That's why Subaru is perfect for a one year "come back"

If the car is rubbish
Marcus is shown to care about the sport and help other teams but is let down by a rubbish car / ignorant engineers, and Petter is vindicated and maybe gets the car changes he deserves.

If the car is actually OK and it's the current drivers
Marcus is seen to be the driving god we all know.

By going back to Ford, anything less than winning the world championship would be seen as a loss.

Yep, it all seem like a win-win situation. One thing though..... It's a well known fact Marcus is interested but one thing. Winning. Subaru option doesn't really suit well to that option :mark:

[Miika]

Autosport today about case Grönholm:



A source close to Gronholm said: "They [Gronholm and Subaru] were quite close [to a deal], but now it's going to be tough. They are quite a way apart. Marcus has an idea of the deal he wants and it's not what they offer - particularly not this four-rally thing. That's not so good for him [Gronholm], I think."

"Gronholm return now unlikely"
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72483

[Wim]

Not shure about this article..Normally teams budget negociations are in september. So if they made an offer for marcus and give him time until christmas, they should aready know the crucial numbers...
But offcourse, due to recession, you never know. By the way, subaru is reasenably in good shape since toyota deal..

[Magnus]

"Marcus has an idea of the deal he wants and it´s not what they offer"
Since Subaru will not compete I understand they had some issues in their discussions :)

[Buzz Lightyear]

:)

[jens]

It would have been interesting to see Grönholm back and to witness, how he fares against the likes of Atkinson and Solberg, but oh well...

[Tomi]

It would have been interesting to see Grönholm back and to witness, how he fares against the likes of Atkinson and Solberg, but oh well...

likely about same like against märtin, but it can take some time to know for sure.

[jbmarcus21]

Not news, not rumours since a long time now...

The Marcus returns is really dead ??... :(

So i have a dream, Petter and Marcus in Petter Solberg WRT !!!! :)

[swordsman]

Not news, not rumours since a long time now...

The Marcus returns is really dead ??... :(

So i have a dream, Petter and Marcus in Petter Solberg WRT !!!! :)

Subaru is obviously off. I read somewhere that Grönholm himself says that it would have been fun, but that it was close but no cigar and that he has no other options for the WRC. Also, Malcolm Wilson said in swedish magazine "Svensk Motorsport" that he would have loved to have Grönholm in the team, but couldn't afford it.

[jbmarcus21]

SWRT retirement ... dramatic ... for Petter, Atkinson, fans .. and Grönholm too ... arff :( :( :( :(

[Finni]

SWRT retirement ... dramatic ... for Petter, Atkinson, fans .. and Grönholm too ... arff :( :( :( :(

It was only good. The car was such crap. I wonder why Grönholm even wanted drive it.

Is Malcolm saying that Grönholm is not driving Ford because he didn't give money? Crazy world. "We take Matthew instead of Marcus" Loooool

I am sure that Atkinson and Petter would have been much tougher opposition than Märtin (especially in Pug)

[urabus-denoS2000]

[quote="Finni"] "We take Matthew instead of Marcus" Loooool

[quote]

Of course they will,Matthew is a young prospect and Marcus is old :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[DonJippo]

Is Malcolm saying that Grönholm is not driving Ford because he didn't give money?

No he is saying that Bosse was asking more than what Malcolm was ready to pay.

[Sulland]

Would be nice to see Bosse in a small Peugeot again !!

Worked well last time he was in a Pug Hatch !! :D

[A.F.F.]

No he is saying that Bosse was asking more than what Malcolm was ready to pay.

C'mon Don, quit struggling. Don't you see you're wrong. :)

[Finni]

No he is saying that Bosse was asking more than what Malcolm was ready to pay.

Ah, okey.. my english.
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A.F.F, you herkkähipiäinen kaivelemassa iänvanhoja.. :)

[A.F.F.]

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A.F.F, you herkkähipiäinen kaivelemassa iänvanhoja.. :)

That is what people who are ****ing bored tend to do. :)

[Finni]

That is what people who are ****ing bored tend to do. :)

Actually because I am bored I may muistuttaa to you about one unserviced kalja. ;)

[jbmarcus21]

If finnish members could translate..?? I think Marcus said "not very interesting to drive this year" ... ?

http://yle.fi/urheilu/lajit/moottoriurheilu/ralli/2009/01/gronholm_ajaminen_kiinnostaa_vahan_132738.html

thanks by advance

[Nikey]

If finnish members could translate..?? I think Marcus said "not very interesting to drive this year" ... ?

http://yle.fi/urheilu/lajit/moottoriurheilu/ralli/2009/01/gronholm_ajaminen_kiinnostaa_vahan_132738.html

thanks by advance

Actually it's he's "a bit interested in driving". He says he misses the feeling of driving and winning. But he also says (again) that it would only happen with a good car and that at the moment he has no plans. He also says that it would propably be better to concentrate on other things, but "you never know"

[A.F.F.]

Apparently Marcus is interested to drive anything from Dakar-raid to rallycross. According to MTV3, also IRC and WRC are possibilities.

I think he is having a slight problems with his spare time :mark:

[jbmarcus21]

Maybe a return next year with new rules of WRC ... Have to wait and see now...


Thanks for the translate ;)

[Sulland]

Marcus, buy yourself a 207, same as Kimi with the Abarth - and start in IRC.

The non team order atmosphere is like the old days in WRC, you will enjoy it !

[cali]

Apparently Marcus is interested to drive anything from Dakar-raid to rallycross. According to MTV3, also IRC and WRC are possibilities.

I think he is having a slight problems with his spare time :mark:
At least he has stayed away from bottles (alcohol), only handling empty bottles at his shop ;)

[Camelopard]

At least he has stayed away from bottles (alcohol), only handling empty bottles at his shop ;)


Maybe his wife doesn't want him round all the time. :)

[jbmarcus21]

Maybe one race for Marcus with Adapta Team ????!!!!

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/news08.htm

:)

[Viking]

……”Anders Grøndal will drive this car in Rally Norway.

- But in the other rallys it is available to other drivers. We have, among other, a well-known Finn that maybe wants to drive a bit again, "said team manager Morten Østberg.

-Now Grøndal will run in Norway, and we hope of course that Anders can provide funding to run multiple VM-rounds. Otherwise, it had been fun with a Spanish driver in Spain, an Italian in Italy and so on”…..

So a Finnish driver would drive in…….. ;)

[Jaanus]

He is talking about Juha Kankkunen who is looking for a WRC car for NORF and not Marcus ;)

[DonJippo]

- But in the other rallys it is available to other drivers. We have, among other, a well-known Finn that maybe wants to drive a bit again, "said team manager Morten Østberg.

So a Finnish driver would drive in…….. ;)

Juha Kankkunen is said to be planning to drive in NORF this year so could be him as well...

[Tomi]

i have a feeling that kankku will drive a ford.

[jbmarcus21]

have you seen http://www.mgr.fi ... ? It is in built .. maybe more news soon...

Strange to built a new website for just a single race... wait and see lolll

[Langdale Forest]

Marcus Grönholm has shown good pace on this years Raly Sweden, does anyone belive that he might come back for Finland? :)

[Tomi]

I dont think so, they asked this same last year, he said rally Finland is a rally where you need to be 100% ready and to have 100% confidence in the car, and you dont get that without driving rallies regulary.
But you never know, there might be some show rally in old cars.

[RS]

Marcus, buy yourself a 207, same as Kimi with the Abarth - and start in IRC.

The non team order atmosphere is like the old days in WRC, you will enjoy it !

He certainly seemed to enjoy driving the Fiesta S2000 when he tested it before Sweden: “The Ford Fiesta was very nice to drive and I was impressed by the road-holding, it was really perfect. The engine felt very strong and you really get the feeling that this is a proper rally car to drive. It brings back the excitement as you have to be aggressive and drive at the correct revs."

[Jafry]

Photos from 2nd leg with Raikkonen´s off road (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=651&fseason=2010) ;)

[Tomi]

He certainly seemed to enjoy driving the Fiesta S2000 when he tested it before Sweden: “The Ford Fiesta was very nice to drive and I was impressed by the road-holding, it was really perfect. The engine felt very strong and you really get the feeling that this is a proper rally car to drive. It brings back the excitement as you have to be aggressive and drive at the correct revs."

Hirvonen said about the same car that it is lazy.

[RS]

Hirvonen said about the same car that it is lazy.

In terms of the engine?

[Tomi]

In terms of the engine?

Yes, they interviewed him after monte and he said, its lazy but maybe with the new engine, it was a spontan comment, not a ford official press relese, like grönholms comments.

[RS]

Yes, they interviewed him after monte and he said, its lazy but maybe with the new engine, it was a spontan comment, not a ford official press relese, like grönholms comments.

True, Marcus' comments could have just been press speak but most people do seem to enjoy driving the S2000 cars, saying they are 'proper cars', especially compared to traditional N4s.

Regarding the engine; I guess it is quite normal for Mikko to feel that coming from the World Rally Car. Rumours say the Fiesta is putting out a lot of power but my feeling from looking at engine dimensions and from watching on stages is that the Skoda maybe has more low down torque.

[Tomi]

Regarding the engine; I guess it is quite normal for Mikko to feel that coming from the World Rally Car. Rumours say the Fiesta is putting out a lot of power but my feeling from looking at engine dimensions and from watching on stages is that the Skoda maybe has more low down torque.

Difficult to say, the truth is that in monte Mikko controlled from start to finish, when needed he increased the gap, even he was polite in his comments.
Here in Sweden it looks like PG does the same, can be that the cars are quite on par, but the drivers make the difference.

[RS]

Difficult to say, the truth is that in monte Mikko controlled from start to finish, when needed he increased the gap, even he was polite in his comments.
Here in Sweden it looks like PG does the same, can be that the cars are quite on par, but the drivers make the difference.

Re: Fiesta vs. Fabia I want to see a few more rallies before making a judgement. In Monte there were too many variables (Mikko, tyre brands, tyre choices, weather), here it is just one fast snow rally. Will be interesting to see how it goes on twistier and rougher gravel rallies but for sure the Fiesta seems good.

[Tomi]

Re: Fiesta vs. Fabia I want to see a few more rallies before making a judgement. In Monte there were too many variables (Mikko, tyre brands, tyre choices, weather), here it is just one fast snow rally. Will be interesting to see how it goes on twistier and rougher gravel rallies but for sure the Fiesta seems good.
yes, difficult to say, but i belive skoda will be favorite in irc, and ford in s2000 cup, if the entry stays same as now.