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Ranger
12th October 2008, 14:52
Let's compile a list of how the awarding of penalties in the past compares with this year:

Penalised:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=IJJXIgnjug0 JPM, Malaysia 2002
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KEk_coNFZqY Alonso, Monza, 2006

Not penalised:
Stewards would have had a field day in Belgium 1998!
Fisi "it's not my fault" Malaysia 2005 (5:55) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HSSiKlfTmAA
Pizzonia, Spa, 2005 (pocket money fine) http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=QRek4IdQgwQ
Panis, Monaco, 1996 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=RfnEEIqV3H0
MS, Imola, 2004 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=YOW-jngVoT4
JPM, Monaco, 2004 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=dRv9iOIvu5Y
Senna, Suzuka, 1990 http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=KLYC1lnVAic

Feel free to add to and argue about that list.

ioan
12th October 2008, 15:36
And the point is that there were always cases where penalties were to light, to harsh, or no penalties when needed?

How those that help us now?

Nikki Katz
12th October 2008, 18:57
There's probably lots of bad calls over the years. I was looking for Alonso's accident at Brazil 2003 which I've always thought he should've been disqualified from, but instead found an even worse incident in a practice session the previous year:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OsrLK1WNZCE&feature=related
Was that punished at all? Doesn't look like it affected Heidfeld's place on the grid!

old friend
12th October 2008, 19:32
How many championship would have gone another way under the current penalty regime?

Senna / Prost 88 & 89
Schumi 94

Must be more!!

Allyc85
12th October 2008, 20:21
Montoya V RB at Indy in 2004 was a disgrace IMO, never worthy of a penalty.

Sleeper
12th October 2008, 20:53
F1 has a long, sad history of getting its penalties well and truly wrong, today's Bourdais incident is only the most recent chapter. In fact, looking for a fairly applied penalty is like finding a needle in a haystack (well, with the exception of Massa's drive through today, as that was deserved, but its very much a rare occasion).

wedge
12th October 2008, 23:05
The stewards appointed by the FIA are an absolute joke.

For sure you need to apply the law but they lack any common sense and urgently need someone of racing experience to interpret the law from racing incidents accordingly.

ioan
12th October 2008, 23:10
F1 has a long, sad history of getting its penalties well and truly wrong, today's Bourdais incident is only the most recent chapter. In fact, looking for a fairly applied penalty is like finding a needle in a haystack (well, with the exception of Massa's drive through today, as that was deserved, but its very much a rare occasion).

:laugh:
Only the penalties given to the red cars are deserved! The rest of them are angels! :rotflmao:

ioan
12th October 2008, 23:13
The stewards appointed by the FIA are an absolute joke.

Sure thing! Still Lewy, and his fans, should consider himself happy that it isn't me one of them stewards. You lot would see how unbiased the FIA stewards are in reality.

yodasarmpit
12th October 2008, 23:55
:laugh:
Only the penalties given to the red cars are deserved! The rest of them are angels! :rotflmao: Not in the slightest, what a silly suggestion.
However there have been a number of poorly called penalties, Seb B's being the most recent of the really bad calls.