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PuddleJumper
20th August 2008, 14:26
Please continue the S2000 summary discussion here.

Previous thread:
S2000 summary (http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=114193)

Rally Hokkaido
21st August 2008, 00:34
Webzine, rally.com.au reports that the Britek Motorsport built Fiestas have achieved FIA homologation for competition in the Asia-Pacific region. The article also hints that the Auris (Corolla) homologation is not too far away.

http://www.rally.com.au/home/latestnews/articleid=3017

Grant_RSA
29th August 2008, 13:27
Why would the Auris be homologated if it is being fully FIA homologated in South Africa, this application is already in and as far as i know virtually complete.

Rally Hokkaido
31st August 2008, 12:51
Why would the Auris be homologated if it is being fully FIA homologated in South Africa, this application is already in and as far as I know virtually complete.
Good question! The article only hinted at the Auris homologation. It may have even been referring to the homolgation emanating from South Africa, though the cars currently running in Australia were developed independently, AFAIK. If it is a separate homologation it does seem redundant.
The Fiesta's homologation is a 'regional' one, which I understand requires a special dispensation from the FIA, the aim of which is to promote regional motor sport. The actual process is not explained in any FIA regulations. There have been numerous previous instances of this 'regional' homologation.
IIRC, several years ago there were three separate homologations of the same VW Golf model on that year's homologation list. One in Germany, one in South Africa and one in China!!! There was a notation next to the latter two stating that such cars could only be used within their respective regions.

Grant_RSA
2nd September 2008, 08:48
Good question! The article only hinted at the Auris homologation. It may have even been referring to the homolgation emanating from South Africa, though the cars currently running in Australia were developed independently, AFAIK. If it is a separate homologation it does seem redundant.
The Fiesta's homologation is a 'regional' one, which I understand requires a special dispensation from the FIA, the aim of which is to promote regional motor sport. The actual process is not explained in any FIA regulations. There have been numerous previous instances of this 'regional' homologation.
IIRC, several years ago there were three separate homologations of the same VW Golf model on that year's homologation list. One in Germany, one in South Africa and one in China!!! There was a notation next to the latter two stating that such cars could only be used within their respective regions.

Im not really up to date with the ins and outs of FIA homologation, but do understand that SA given the go ahead by Toyota Japan to acquire the full FIA homologation.

I can say that the SA version is very impressive, i incidently co-drive a lower class version of the Auris which has the same build quality which is awesome. I expect the Auris will make its way to Europe fairly soon.

Sulland
2nd September 2008, 10:25
For now an embryonic site for the Corsa, I guess more will come:

http://opel-s2000news.website.orange.co.uk/

PLuto
2nd September 2008, 20:56
There isnt special page for Antibes - so, Bryan Bouffier will start there with Proton Satria S2000 - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7309

urabus-denoS2000
2nd September 2008, 21:01
Woooooooooooooooooooow,Bouffierski with a Proton!!!
That will show the true potential of the car

c4
10th September 2008, 18:05
Gareth MacHale may use an Opel Corsa S2000 as course car on Cork 20
http://rallybuzz.stagetimes.com/gareth-machale-may-run-opel-corsa-s2000-cork/

Sulland
18th September 2008, 11:37
If VW is coming into WRC with Scirocco, where will that leave the Polo S2000 ?

Mirek
18th September 2008, 22:12
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/news/corsa1.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/news/corsa2.jpg

HaCo
19th September 2008, 11:04
If VW is coming into WRC with Scirocco, where will that leave the Polo S2000 ?

Polo is still a private initiative from South Africa. Why couldn't they compete next to eachother: one in PWRC and one in WRC?

HaCo
19th September 2008, 11:15
Pitty this thread does not appear in this view because it is sticky (i think)...
http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=120

Tom206wrc
25th September 2008, 16:48
Peugeot-Sport France officially announced today they will take part to the two last rounds of 2008 french tarmac championship(Cevennes and Var)with Guillaume Canivenq and to the last round of ERC08(Antibes)and first round of 2009 IRC(Monte-Carlo)with Stéphane Sarrazin !!!! :bounce: :bounce:

With a 207 S2000 obviously :p :

milly
27th September 2008, 22:12
Im not really up to date with the ins and outs of FIA homologation, but do understand that SA given the go ahead by Toyota Japan to acquire the full FIA homologation.

I can say that the SA version is very impressive, i incidently co-drive a lower class version of the Auris which has the same build quality which is awesome. I expect the Auris will make its way to Europe fairly soon.


Each homologation is only going to be regional - for Australia, and for SA. There will not be a global FIA homologation by Toyota.

Info from Toyota Motor Compnay, Japan.

Rally Hokkaido
28th September 2008, 05:05
Each homologation is only going to be regional - for Australia, and for SA. There will not be a global FIA homologation by Toyota.

Info from Toyota Motor Compnay, Japan.

In the case of the Australian car, regional homologation means it can be used in FIA events within Asia-Pacific. For 2009 this includes all rounds of the APRC and the Australian and Japanese (if on the calendar) rounds of the WRC. Source: Garry Connelly (Australian delegate to FIA World Council).

Grant_RSA
7th October 2008, 07:59
Each homologation is only going to be regional - for Australia, and for SA. There will not be a global FIA homologation by Toyota.

Info from Toyota Motor Compnay, Japan.

Interesting, i would like to see an official quote on that,

Information i get straight from Toyota SA is quite different, and all the kits in process for Europe tell me differently.But what would i know!

HaCo
8th October 2008, 07:01
How many kits are you making right now for Europe, which direction will they go in Europe :D

Grant_RSA
8th October 2008, 08:07
Haco, 6 reverse gears and 1 forward!

Grant_RSA
8th October 2008, 15:51
;)

Tom206wrc
9th October 2008, 09:13
It looks like Corsican Jean-Dominique Mattei bought one of Twister Corse team 207 S2000s(same livery, but different team name)... :confused:

He will run it at Tour de Corse thisweek-end ;)

http://jimmy2a.skyrock.com/photo.html?id_article=2062278650rev=1

9th October 2008, 12:00
It looks like Corsican Jean-Dominique Mattei bought one of Twister Corse team 207 S2000s(same livery, but different team name)... :confused:

He will run it at Tour de Corse thisweek-end ;)

http://jimmy2a.skyrock.com/photo.html?id_article=2062278650rev=1

Seems a Balbosca 207

HaCo
9th October 2008, 18:55
Haco, 6 reverse gears and 1 forward!

:)

Nuts... ;)

Come on, is there some demand in europe, maybe in BelgiuM? :D

Grant_RSA
10th October 2008, 08:26
:)

Nuts... ;)

Come on, is there some demand in europe, maybe in BelgiuM? :D

I dont have all the facts, i understand there are 15 kits and all are spoken for, not sure where, who or how,

Our silly season will begin after next weekend, we will have 2 Aurises on the event. Will be interesting to see what happens.

HaCo
10th October 2008, 17:55
Why is it silly, the season?

Sulland
10th October 2008, 18:24
Has it been decided who if any firm will take of the European Auris preparation ?

15 sold kits will be amazing if it is the truth !

Grant_RSA
21st October 2008, 08:31
Some Auris pics from the final round of the SA national rally championships,

http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2008ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/05-gemmell2.jpg
http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2008ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/05-gemmell7.jpg
http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2008ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/05-gemmell1.jpg
http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2008ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/cronje1.jpg
http://www.rallyworld.net/Gallery/RallyEvents/2008ToyotaDealerRally-Gauteng/cronje2.jpg

PLuto
21st October 2008, 15:37
Seems a Balbosca 207

Yes, rented car from Balbosca.

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_3e3c11c40b7a485265ba4258f983e08d.jpg

Mirek
26th November 2008, 15:16
There is a rumour that Czech gentleman driver Karel Macek bought Corolla S2000...

HaCo
27th November 2008, 19:31
FIAT will replaces the Sadev gearbox by an X-Trac, also the suspension is improved.

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/index.php?id=d15&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=21727&cHash=442cfeda41

Mirek
2nd December 2008, 17:12
Here is the proof of Corolla S2000 in Czech republic in spy photos :D
http://czech.rallyfans.info/files/u23/Obraz012.jpg
http://czech.rallyfans.info/files/u23/Obraz011.jpg
http://czech.rallyfans.info/files/u23/Obraz013.jpg

Sulland
2nd December 2008, 20:38
The Corolla is a lot of car for the money. Will be interesting to see how competitive he will be, and I do not know how good the driver is....

Mirek
3rd December 2008, 00:50
The driver is just a tourist. The car may be fast only if being rented to any fast driver :)

katxal
3rd December 2008, 22:45
i suppose the car is not new...and...was bought in South Africa or Australia?

PLuto
3rd December 2008, 22:55
SA

urabus-denoS2000
4th December 2008, 15:11
The car looks nice in a tarmac setup.
Hope this is just the beginning of buying Corollas.
At some part it will surely be rented to a fast(er) driver so we can see how good is it

Sulland
4th December 2008, 16:57
SA

So it was not the one from RED UK on sale here ?
http://www.rallycarsforsale.net/

FIA Homologated Toyota S2000R Factory Car 2007. WRC, PWRC, ARC & BRC fastest stage time setting and multiple Championship winning formula. Very low component times, engine 100km since new, Sadev 6-speed sequential transmission. Ready to rally, tarmac or gravel spec, some parts by separate negotiation. Parts & rebuild service available if reqd
Price: 99 500 Euro

HaCo
4th December 2008, 17:50
Still pitty there is no Auris available, this is much more interesting for importers!

Mirek
5th December 2008, 20:15
Macek's Corolla is bought from RSA. The car is completely built in RSA (LHD in tarmac configuration).

Mirek
6th December 2008, 15:45
http://www.mikr.wz.cz/foto/2008/pha%20patek/img00016.jpg

PLuto
17th December 2008, 21:46
One of the first S2000 car in MERC

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_fcbcff1e95b1ab76f3222567109ca517.jpg

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7751

Mirek
22nd December 2008, 13:28
New minimum weight for S2000 is said to be 1200 kg on every surface :(

Tom206wrc
22nd December 2008, 13:30
Rather heavy :mark:

Tom206wrc
22nd December 2008, 22:44
http://www.autoklub.pl/22714,news.html

:confused:

katxal
23rd December 2008, 13:28
http://www.autoklub.pl/22714,news.html

:confused:

dont worry, speaks about a charity day made by Cersanit Rally Team.

Sulland
14th January 2009, 00:42
2 x S2000 in rally Norway !

Tom206wrc
14th January 2009, 09:40
New tyre manufacturer for Gareth Jones' MG(Hankook)!!! ;)

katxal
15th January 2009, 22:27
2 x S2000 in rally Norway !

2??i only see one sulland :S

pantealex
16th January 2009, 15:56
2??i only see one sulland :S
Sandell Skoda and Tarabus Fiat

Mirek
26th January 2009, 17:03
New tyre manufacturer for Gareth Jones' MG(Hankook)!!! ;)

It's Stuart Jones.

MG Rally
26th January 2009, 17:20
New tyre manufacturer for Gareth Jones' MG(Hankook)!!! ;)


]It's Stuart Jones.

Stuart's MG was sponsored by Hankook, and used their tyres, for the 2008 Rallye International du Valais, and he is currently finalising a deal for 2009.

Some more images are here - http://mgs2000.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=34

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7931/ircrallyeduvalais08zdivkl3.jpg

Sulland
26th January 2009, 18:40
Keep up with the Joneses !

Hankook have good rally tyres, would like to see them in IRC so thats good !

MG Rally
26th January 2009, 19:20
Seen at 2009 Autosport International two weeks ago - Opel...

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9722.jpg

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9555.jpg

Proton...

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9673.jpg

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9642.jpg

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9685.jpg

MG Rally
26th January 2009, 19:21
Seen at 2009 Autosport International two weeks ago - Proton...

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9644.jpg

Peugeot...

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9605.jpg

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9691.jpg

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9604.jpg

MG...

http://www.xpower-racing.com/gallery/data/9550/medium/DSC_9727.jpg

...more of the MG can also be seen here - http://mgs2000.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=256

LP
26th January 2009, 19:31
who supplied the Punto to Raikonen @ Arctic Rally? Abarth? didn't see any additions to S2000 database concerning this rally

Mirek
26th January 2009, 19:58
LP: Raikonen bought Punto himself. Service was provided by Tommi Mäkinen Racing.

MG Rally: Pitty that the beautiful Peugeot is written off. I hope they'll get new one soon...

RS
26th January 2009, 22:39
]LP: Raikonen bought Punto himself. Service was provided by Tommi Mäkinen Racing.

MG Rally: Pitty that the beautiful Peugeot is written off. I hope they'll get new one soon...

Written off? Oh dear, not a good start Kris :(

urabus-denoS2000
26th January 2009, 22:53
Nice cars!

Tom206wrc
27th January 2009, 13:35
Have a look at the Asian-Pacific, Africa, America rallies section of the forum: Toyota Australia stops developping and running the Auris/Corolla S2000(2008 champion)...what will become these nice cars ???? :confused:

Mirek
27th January 2009, 23:01
RS: Yes, it is. Kris will use BFG car in Brazil.

Sulland
27th January 2009, 23:51
]LP: Raikonen bought Punto himself. Service was provided by Tommi Mäkinen Racing.

Not sure how much he paid. As a Ferrari driver I guess you get benefits..... ;)

HaCo
4th March 2009, 20:58
According to Rene Georges, they are developing an S2000 based on the new Polo in South Africa.
http://sport.turbomagazine.be/index.php?pg=news&id=1547

LP
8th March 2009, 23:16
Looks like Gareth McHale has brought Opel Corsa S2000 to a class win in it's first competetive outing. top3 (n4) on Mayo Stages Rally:

4 1 Gareth McHale/Barry Goodman Opel Corsa S200 4 1 57:45 2:23 0:08
5 5 Gary Jennings/Martin Brady Mitsubishi Evo 9 4 2 58:32 3:10 0:47
6 9 Danny McBride/Jonathon Gallagher Mitsubishi Evo 8 4 3 1:00:22 5:00 1:50

andre93
9th March 2009, 17:56
photos of gareth machale???

LP
9th March 2009, 18:27
http://www.crspics.com/2009/National09/MayoNat09/09-5CRS10016.jpg

http://www.crspics.com/2009/National09/MayoNat09/09-5CRS10433.jpg

found these two :)

Tazz
16th March 2009, 07:37
The SA spec Auris S2000 won its first event last weekend.

PLuto
6th April 2009, 02:30
Photos and video from Skoda Motorsport Media Event - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=8262

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/3a26e3f5ddce9f5fbf3f134035e98682.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/cf32fb50c320f3e1c5748f8421b2cf74.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/708ef2f0e9bac3d36f4b0fdb7f06b882.jpghttp://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/49cb412f4cb7d31a9fbc3302e25d6444.jpg

Mirek
30th April 2009, 10:43
Photos of Toyota Corolla S2000 livery of Mr. Macek, Czech republic:

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_079d0040ab81d886b72b25432c519375.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=8425

Tom206wrc
30th July 2009, 18:05
Has Janne Tuohino bought Jukka Hiltunen's 207 S2000(it has the same livery at least) :confused: :confused:

Sulland
5th September 2009, 19:43
PWRC contender Eivind Brynildsen will drive the RGRS Fabia on the next two rounds of the norwegian Championship, to compare it to his Evo, and hopefully make some decisions towards the 2010 season.

He last tried a S2000 car a Grande Punto two years ago, and wanted to see how far the class has developed.

Barreis
18th September 2009, 17:01
Nobody cares about FIA S2000 prices rule..

Juha_Koo
18th September 2009, 18:51
Has Janne Tuohino bought Jukka Hiltunen's 207 S2000(it has the same livery at least) :confused: :confused:

Tuohino bought it few months ago. Hiltunen used an Evo 9 in the penultimate Finnish Championship rally. But now Tuohino is selling the 207.

Gordini
23rd September 2009, 14:04
Nobody cares about FIA S2000 prices rule..

That one is taken out of the paperwork, and is no longer in effect !

Sulland
14th March 2012, 14:42
Will the 207 E12 match the Fabia evo2 and the Fiesta?

mousti
14th March 2012, 17:05
We'll see..

Andre Oliveira
18th June 2014, 01:13
Incredible things can happen, thanks to a our facebook (eWRC-results.com) fan: "Carlo Covi in Rally Italia Sardegna 2014 used 207 ET 599 HT(chassis 33 CJ 13 MCT) not EL 749 FV that used in same weekend Simone Tempestini in a romanian hill climb"

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/image_browse.php?id=166358
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/l/t1.0-9/10417608_722404947797652_7174621566652043422_n.jpg

Same weekend ahahah

PLuto
18th June 2014, 01:54
This is normal. Thats one of the reasons why we have finished with s2000rally.com...

Sulland
4th December 2017, 15:14
S2000 post R5:

It is a strage thing that it seems to be fewer than you should think that is in use.
But looking closely into e-wrc db it is actually quite a number still in use in national series.
Some have put in a 2500 millington as well.

Prices are also keeping up, with 100-120 000 Euro for a weel maintained car.

The thing I miss the most is the sound. Standing in the forrest you could hear them from a long distance, and follow them getting closer and pass. Miss the sound - it is a real racecar.
Shame on FIA for killing them!

HaCo
4th December 2017, 19:25
I agree completely with the sound, I miss it too!

PLuto
5th December 2017, 15:19
For me it is not only about the sound, but S2000 was for true rally drivers. To be fast, you must keep it in high revs. Cars with turbo engines are more friendly to "not so top" drivers...

Sulland
5th December 2017, 16:57
For me it is not only about the sound, but S2000 was for true rally drivers. To be fast, you must keep it in high revs. Cars with turbo engines are more friendly to "not so top" drivers...

And be 100% accurate. Mistakes mean much time lost, mostly due to a narrow powerband on the NA engine.
same with R2 and R3 NA, now all youngsters are going through a different learning process. They dont even have to worry about turbolagging.....

Mirek
5th December 2017, 17:03
And that's ok because naturally aspirated engines in normal cars are pretty much dead (except some low cost ones or special applications which are in no way suitable for racing such as Atkinson-cycle engines).