Rally History (part III)

[sednem]

Hi Stan...


Americo,I have difference with your results-1978.My result:16/Alpin - 7 - 10 th
7. #??? Robert Lassauge (FRA)/Mme Lassauge (FRA) - Simca Rallye 3
8. (not 9.) #??? Christian Dorche (FRA)/Robert Nal (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E //// 9. R.(help my for name) Koven (FRA)/''Poosi''-(help my for real name) (FRA) - Ford Escort RS2000 //// 10. Michelle Laborie (FRA) / Francois Dufos (FRA) - Simca Rallye 3 and 21/Hesen - 9 th
9. #??? Gisbert ( my Karl-Heinz ) Fröhlich (DEU)/Rainer Wüllner (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 .

Regarding Alpin you're right... Maybe because 8th is #90 and 9th is #80 ??? anyway correct ois...
8. #90 Christian Dorche (FRA)/Robert Nal (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 5H16:10.3
9. #80 R. Cauvin (FRA)/«Poussy» (FRA) - Ford Escort RS - 5H26:01.3

About Hessen I'm digging (thin I fund this in some german site/forum)...

Best regards...

[sednem]

Hi Steve...


From my usual source, "25 Years of the Manx Rally" by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton

Unfortunately I can't help with 1988. The last year in the book is 1987, the 25th running of the rally. I haven't got 1989 or 1990 either but I have the official results for 1991 to 2010 if anyone needs anything from those years.

Here what I have for Manx 88...
1988 - 26º Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally
1. #2 Patrick Snijers (BEL)/Dany Colebunders (BEL) - BMW M3 - 3H30:38
2. #1 Jimmy McRae (GBR)/Rob Arthur (GBR) - R.E.D. / Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 0:21
3. #??? Phil Collins (GBR)/Bryan Thomas (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 6:36
4. #3 Fabrizio Tabaton (ITA)/Luciano Tedeschini (ITA) - H.F. Grifone / Lancia Delta Integrale - + 7:46
5. #6 Malcolm Wilson (GBR)/Ian Grindrod (GBR) - GM Dealersport / Vauxhall Astra GT/E - + 8:55
6. #7 Pentti Airikkala (FIN)/Ronan McNamee (GBR) - Mitsubishi Starion Turbo - + 9:51
7. #??? Louise Aitken-Walker (GBR)/Ellen Morgan (GBR) - Peugeot Talbot Sport / Peugeot 205 Gti - + 13:18
8. #??? Chris Birkbeck (GBR)/Trevor Godden (GBR) - GM Dealersport / Vauxhall Astra GT/E - + 14:58
9. #??? Simon Davison (GBR)/Steve Bond (GBR) - Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v - + 15:47
10. #??? Ian Tilke (GBR)/??? Wray (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 17:02

If you want 89 and 90 I have those too..
Since I have (all most) all of top 10 ERC, now I'm trying to retrieve all the other results for rallys that have at least 1 ERC event...
Huge work... so for sure i'll need Manx 63->75 and 97->now...
When I'll reach "Great Britain" (I'm now at France...) I'll be back to you... Thanks in advance!

Best Regards
Américo

[sednem]

I don't think that Kostas Tanoussis was driving this period. We was a kid :-)
The drives is most likely his father, Zois Tanoussis.

Thanks Harris...

But you know, some great champions started very early... ;)

BTW do you have birth dates for those drivers???

Best regards
Américo.

[stanislav197]

Thanks,Americo.Help me for results - ERC - 1979 :1/Janer - 8 and 10 th ;5/Costa Brava - 8-9 th ;8/Targa Florio - 10 th ;10/Costa Smeralda - 8 th ;14/Firestone - 7-9 th ;15/ARBO - 7-10 th ;17/Lucien Bianchi - 5,6,8 th ;18/Alpin - 10 th ;20/4 Regioni - 9-10 th ;21/Lorainne - 6-10 th ;24/Hesen - 8,10 th ;26/Donegal - 8,10 th ;27/Ourense - 7-10 th ;28/Del Ciocco - 9 th ;29/Ypres - 7 th ;30/Skoda - 10 th ;33/Danube - 9 th ;34/Taurus - 5-7 th ;36/Halkidikis - 8-9 th ;39/Tour de France - 9 th ;40/Du Vins - 2-6 th and 8-10 th ;41/Cyprus - 10 th ;43/OASC - 5 and 9 th ;44/De la Châtaigne - 3,8 th ;45/RACE - 6 th .

[harriswrc]

Thanks Harris...

But you know, some great champions started very early... ;)

BTW do you have birth dates for those drivers???

Best regards
Américo.Unfortunately I have not birth dates for these drivers.
But I will look for them ;-)

[D-Type]

On another forum someone is asking:
"Does anybody have an entry list for the 1964 Circuit of Ireland?"
and (curiously)
"Does anybody know who drove the Aston Martin DB4 course car?"

If you can help please PM me - or post the info here.
The Clerk of the Course driving the DB4 was Robin McKinney.

I'm surprised nobody has an entry list?

[Steve Boyd]

Steve,Help me for Rally Manx result and dates :1974- 1-10 th ;1973-1-10 th ;1967 - 1-10 th ;1965- 1-10 th ;1964 - 1-10 th ;1963 - 1-10 th .
Again from "25 Years of the Manx Rally" by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton:

1963, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Reg McBride/Don Barrow (Allardette) 57 Marks
2. Phil Simister/B. Potts (Allardette) 65 Marks
3. John Sprinzel/W. Cave (Allardette) 70 Marks
4. Geoff Allen/B. Hughes (Vauxhall VX 4/90) 70 Marks
5. F. Grange/J. Middleton (Allardette) 74 marks
6. Tony Fisher/John Brown (850 Mini) 77 Marks
7. Roy Dixon/D. Ralphs (Anglia Super) 78 Marks
8. Brian Culcheth/John Davenport (Sebring Sprite) 86 Marks
9. D. Sisson/R. Etheridge (Triumph TR4) 90 Marks
10. Roger Clark/H. Patton (Mini Cooper) 94 Marks

1964, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. David Friswell/Keith Binns (1275 Cooper S) 853 points
2. Barrie Williams/Mike Lindsay-Jones (1071 Cooper S) 856 points
3. Norman Birkett/Pat Hauseman (Ford Cortina GT) 1007 points
4. John Sprinzel/"Fred" (Ford Cortina GT) 1024 points
5. Frank Grange/Barrie Potts (Ford Cortina) 1029 points
6. Phil Simister/Graham Robson (Ford Cortina) 1053 points
7. Horace Saville/John Dodsworth (1071 Cooper S) 1075 points
8. K. Watkinson/D. Watkinson (MGA Twin Cam) 1076 points
9. Mike Offley/Terry Harrison (Mini) 1116 points
10. Don Grimshaw/Tony Mason (Triumph TR4) 1131 points

1965 (May 21-23), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Tony Fall/David Fawcett (1275 Cooper S) 619 points
2. Chris Knowles-Fitton/Mike Wood (1275 Cooper S) 680 points
3. Don Lindsay/Ray Kennedy (1275 Minivan) 751 points
4. Dennis Easthope/Denis Craine (1275 Cooper S) 759 points
5. Martin Clark/Paul Stephens (Ford Cortina GT) 772 points
6. John Dodsworth/Adrian Hundleby (1275 Cooper S) 779 points
7. Mike Offley/Terry Harrison (970 Cooper S) 802 points
8. P. Green/? (MGB) 904 points
9. Cec Offley/Rob Lyall (997 Mini Cooper) 915 points
10. Ken Leece/Evelyn Leece (1275 Cooper S) 918 points

1967 (May 19-21), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Norman Harvey/Terry Vaux (1275 Mini Cooper S) 917 points
2. Ken Leece/Evelyn Leece (1275 Mini Cooper S) 955 points
3. John Huyton/Bob Corrin (Ford Cortina GT) 1054 points
4. Richard Hill/Norman Salt (Lotus Cortina) 1123 points
5. P. Marshall/T. Cork (Ford Cortina GT) 1226 points
6. C. Twigdon/T. Williams (1275 Mini Cooper S) 1437 points
7. Rodney Goodchild/John Hague (1275 Mini Cooper S) 1440 points
8. Haydn Minay/Miss Christine Leece (1275 Mini Cooper S) 1537 points
9. Edward Christian/Mike Kennish (Ford Anglia) 1546 points
10. Brian Denny/P. Walker (1275 Mini Cooper S) 1571 points

1973, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Adrian Boyd/John Davenport (Ford Escort RS) 169 points
2. Cahal Curley/Austin Frazer (Porsche Carrera RS) 209 points
3. Dennis Easthope/Bernie Magee (Ford Escort RS) 634 points
4. Dessie McCartney/Drexel Gillespie (Porsche Carrera) 686 points
5. Malcolm Patrick/Roger Rhoderick-Jones ((Porsche Carrera) 704 points
6. Pat Moss-Carlsson/Liz Crellin (Renault Alpine) 858 points
7. Will Sparrow/Nigel Raeburn (Vauxhall Firenza) 906 points
8. Tony Fowkes/Bryan Harris (Ford Escort RS) 962 points
9. Barry Lee/Howard Scott (Ford Escort RS) 1076 points
10. John Dodsworth/Stuart Comish (Ford Escort TC) 1188 points

1974 (September 13-15), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Cahal Curley/Austin Frazer (Porsche Carrera) 1031 points
2. Dessie McCartney/Terry Harryman (Porsche Carrera) 1156 points
3. Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Escort 2-litre BDA) 1284 points
4. Billy Coleman/Peter Scott (Escort 2-litre BDA) 1437 points
5. Nigel Rockey/Paul White (Escort 2-litre BDA) 1628 points
6. Tony Pond/Frances Cobb (Opel Ascona) 1644 points
7. Adrian Boyd/Frank Main (Escort 1800 BDA) 1743 points
8. Brian Nelson/Fred Gallagher (BMW 2002Tii) 1762 points
9. Russel Brookes/John Brown (Escort RS2000) 1834 points
10. Chris Beynon/Lyn Andrews (Porsche Carrera) 1843 points

[Steve Boyd]

Hi Steve...

Here what I have for Manx 88...
1988 - 26º Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally
1. #2 Patrick Snijers (BEL)/Dany Colebunders (BEL) - BMW M3 - 3H30:38
2. #1 Jimmy McRae (GBR)/Rob Arthur (GBR) - R.E.D. / Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 0:21
3. #??? Phil Collins (GBR)/Bryan Thomas (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 6:36
4. #3 Fabrizio Tabaton (ITA)/Luciano Tedeschini (ITA) - H.F. Grifone / Lancia Delta Integrale - + 7:46
5. #6 Malcolm Wilson (GBR)/Ian Grindrod (GBR) - GM Dealersport / Vauxhall Astra GT/E - + 8:55
6. #7 Pentti Airikkala (FIN)/Ronan McNamee (GBR) - Mitsubishi Starion Turbo - + 9:51
7. #??? Louise Aitken-Walker (GBR)/Ellen Morgan (GBR) - Peugeot Talbot Sport / Peugeot 205 Gti - + 13:18
8. #??? Chris Birkbeck (GBR)/Trevor Godden (GBR) - GM Dealersport / Vauxhall Astra GT/E - + 14:58
9. #??? Simon Davison (GBR)/Steve Bond (GBR) - Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v - + 15:47
10. #??? Ian Tilke (GBR)/??? Wray (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 17:02

If you want 89 and 90 I have those too..
Since I have (all most) all of top 10 ERC, now I'm trying to retrieve all the other results for rallys that have at least 1 ERC event...
Huge work... so for sure i'll need Manx 63->75 and 97->now...
When I'll reach "Great Britain" (I'm now at France...) I'll be back to you... Thanks in advance!

Best Regards
Américo

Thanks Américo - 89 & 90 would be good.
We now have Ian Wray as co-driver for Ian Tilke in 10th place 1988, thanks to Martin, and I can give you the dates: September 15-17
Just post on here when you are ready for more & I will pass on what I have.

[sednem]

Thanks Américo - 89 & 90 would be good.
We now have Ian Wray as co-driver for Ian Tilke in 10th place 1988, thanks to Martin, and I can give you the dates: September 15-17
Just post on here when you are ready for more & I will pass on what I have.

Here's what I have for 89 an 90...

1989 - 27º Rally Internacional Ilha de Man
1. #12 Russell Brookes (GBR)/Neil Wilson (GBR) - Andrews Sykes Ford Champions Team / Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - 3H42:10
2. #11 Mark Lovell (GBR)/Ronan Morgan (IRL) - Andrews Sykes Ford Champions Team / Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 0:19
3. #2 Jimmy McRae (GBR)/Rob Arthur (GBR) - R.E.D. / Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 2:13
4. #19 Dave Metcalfe (GBR)/Nicky Grist (GBR) - Vauxhall DT / Vauxhall Nova GT/E - + 12:40
5. #16 Louise Aitken-Walker (GBR)/Ellen Morgan (GBR) - Vauxhall DT / Vauxhall Astra GT/E - + 13:47
6. #15 Austin MacHale (IRL)/Brian Murphy (IRL) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 14:32
7. #??? Kenny McKinstry (IRL)/Robert Philpott (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 19:24
8. #18 Andrew Wood (GBR)/David Paterson (GBR) - Audi 90 Quattro - + 20:23
9. #8 Hakan Ericsson (SWE)/Johnny Johansson (SWE) - Peugeot Talbot Sport / Peugeot 309 Gti - + 20:31
10. #17 Chris Birkbeck (GBR)/Mike Kidd (GBR) - Peugeot 205 Gti - + 26:28

1990 - 28º Rally Internacional Ilha de Man
1. #3 Russell Brookes (GBR)/Neil Wilson (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - 3H42:21
2. #19 Bertie Fisher (IRL)/Rory Kennedy (IRL) - BMW M3 - + 0:45
3. #4 Colin McRae (GBR)/Derek Ringer (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 1:05
4. #14 James Cullen (GBR)/Ellen Morgan (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 1:27
5. #7 Graham Middleton (GBR)/Paul Watkins (GBR) - BMW M3 - + 6:22
6. #2 Sepp Haider (AUT)/Peter Diekmann (DEU) - GM Euro Sport / Opel Kadett Gsi 16v - + 7:33
7. #15 Chris Birkbeck (GBR)/Steve Harris (GBR) - Vauxhall Astra GT/E - + 7:57
8. #23 Ramón Ferreyros (PER)/Andy Moss (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 12:04
9. #16 Andrew Wood (GBR)/David Paterson (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 13:09
10. #27 Paul Frankland (GBR)/Keith Chipcase (GBR) - Peugeot Talbot Sport / Peugeot 205 Gti - + 19:34

Best regards
Américo.

[Steve Boyd]

Thanks Américo.
For anyone who keeps dates the 1989 Manx was September 14-16 and in 1990 September 13-15.

[januszsz]

Here's what I have for 89 an 90...

1989 - 27º Rally Internacional Ilha de Man
7. #??? Kenny McKinstry (IRL)/Robert Philpott (GBR) - Ford Sierra RS Cosworth - + 19:24

Best regards
Américo.

Mc Kinstry's starting number was 37.

Regards
Janusz

[januszsz]

I am looking for some data on Eastern Europe rallies:
1967
Cordatic (H) dates, result (possibly full), start lists
1968
Pneumant (DDR) 27-30.3 result (possibly full), start lists
1969
Cordatic (H) 29-31.8 result (possibly full), start lists
Tatry-Poprad (CS) 5-7.9. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 24-26.10 result (possibly full), start lists
1970
Zlatni Piassetzi (BG) 13-14.6. result (possibly full), start lists
Cordatic (H) 28-30.8. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 22-24.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1971
Vltava (CS) dates, result (possibly full), start lists
Slovensko ZTS Nitra (CS) 11-13.9. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 19-20.11. result (possibly full), start lists
1972
Slovensko Poprad - Tatry (CS) 23-24.9. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 27-28.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1973
Cordatic (H) 31.8-1.9. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 27-28.10 result (possibly full), start lists
Russkaya Zima (SU) 14-16.12. result (possibly full), start lists
1974
Volan (H) 30-31.5. result (possibly full), start lists
Donau (RO) 1-3.8. result (possibly full), start lists
1976
Volan (H) 28-29.4. result (possibly full), start lists
Sachsenring (DDR) 9-10.9. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 21-23.10. result (possibly full), start lists
Russkaya Zima (SU) 11-15.12. result (possibly full), start lists
1978
Wartburg (DDR) 19-21.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1980
Wartburg (DDR) 23-25.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1981
Volan (H) 23-24.5. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) dates, result (possibly full), start lists
1983
Wartburg (DDR) dates, result (possibly full), start lists
Wismut (DDR) 1-2.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1984
Mogurt Salgo (H) 30.3-1.4. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 19-20.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1985
Mogurt Salgo (H) 12-14.4. result (possibly full), start lists
Tatry (CS) dates, result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 25-26.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1986
Mogurt Salgo (H) 19-20.4. result (possibly full), start lists
Donau Dacia (RO) 14-15.6. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 23-25.10. result (possibly full), start lists
1987
Donau Dacia (RO) 11-12.6. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 20-21.10. result (possibly full), start lists
Soyuz'87 (SU) dates, result (possibly full), start lists
1988
Mogurt Salgo (H) 22-24.10. result (possibly full), start lists
Old Toomas Tallin (SU) 21.5. result (possibly full), start lists
1989
Mogurt Salgo (H) 21-23.4. result (possibly full), start lists
Donau Dacia (RO) 9-11.6. result (possibly full), start lists
Wartburg (DDR) 19-21.10. result (possibly full), start lists
Sachsenring (DDR) 2-4.11. result (possibly full), start lists

Thank you in advance for your help.
Regards
Janusz

[RobertS]

I am looking for some data on Eastern Europe rallies:

1973
Cordatic (H) 31.8-1.9. result (possibly full), start lists
Janusz,
There was no! Cordatic rallye in 1973.
In 1973 the Taurus Rallye(31.8-1.-9.) was the Hungarian round of the CPF Championship.


1974
Volan (H) 30-31.5. result (possibly full), start lists

'74 VOLÁN rallye was Hungarian only event. I have full result if you need...

[januszsz]

Hi RobertS,
Thank you for correction Taurus/Cordatic and of course I need Volan'74 full result.
Regards
Janusz

[Steve Boyd]

Mc Kinstry's starting number was 37.

Regards
Janusz
Thanks Janusz

[anihel]

Start numbers can be seen in the photographs linked below
Billy Coleman, Galway 1978::: Rally Retro :: by Rallyretro.com (http://www.rallyretro.com/detailedview.asp?PicID=8152&Event=Galway)
Hugh O'Brien, Galway 1978::: Rally Retro :: by Rallyretro.com (http://www.rallyretro.com/detailedview.asp?PicID=8195&Event=Galway)
Sean Campbell, Donegal 1978::: Rally Retro :: by Rallyretro.com (http://www.rallyretro.com/detailedview.asp?PicID=6569&Event=Donegal)
I've looked at the photographs of Noel Harvey on this site, but sadly his number isn't clear in any of them!

Noel Harvey was #29 in the 1978 Donegal International Rally

[Plan9]

If Subaru had stayed in the WRC for 2009 who would have been the drivers? One of them was Gronholm?

Would Guy Wilks have had a seat?

Any help is appreciated; I am not sure if the year 2009 is "historic" enough =p

[Steve Boyd]

Noel Harvey was #29 in the 1978 Donegal International Rally
Thanks Kevin

[anihel]

No problem Steve, been off these forums for a few years, so I hope I can answer any Irish (and maybe some British) related questions through the Rallyretro connection!

[D-Type]

If Subaru had stayed in the WRC for 2009 who would have been the drivers? One of them was Gronholm?

Would Guy Wilks have had a seat?

Any help is appreciated; I am not sure if the year 2009 is "historic" enough =p
The basic rule I use is if the topic involves drivers still competing then it isn't historic yet. But that really applies to discussions not a simple question like this.
What you could have done (and I'm not saying do it retrospectively) is open a new thread and flag it as history - then it appears in both bulletin boards.

While I'm on, I feel that this thread is getting very long and unwieldy. Should we close it and start a series of threads on the history ofndividual rallies or series. What do people think?

[Martin Liddle]

While I'm on, I feel that this thread is getting very long and unwieldy. Should we close it and start a series of threads on the history of individual rallies or series. What do people think?

The posting volume on average is not high and having it in one thread has the advantage of only needing to check a single thread on the relatively infrequent times I drop in. If you split it there could be a vast numbrt of threads, most with very few posts.

[Steve Boyd]

I agree. It's easy to drop in every so often and learn some interesting facts, make the odd contribution and perhaps re-kindle memories. If you try to divide it up into events it becomes difficult to know where to put championship queries. If it's divided into championships where do you put a question about one event over a number of years. As Martin says you would finish up with a lot of short threads as each new question would almost certainly have to start a new thread of its own.

[D-Type]

I'm a strong believer in "If it aint broke - don't fix it" so I will leave the thread alone at this stage.

But, can we be sure that someone looking for information on, say, the Acropolis Rally or the Sestieres Rally will know how to look on here? That is the main reason I'm suggesting a split.

[Martin Liddle]

But, can we be sure that someone looking for information on, say, the Acropolis Rally or the Sestieres Rally will know how to look on here? That is the main reason I'm suggesting a split.

No we can't be sure. If Rally History was a Forum in its own right then having lots of threads would be fine but as a relatively small part of a Motor Sport History Forum I fear that they might get lost; open to be persuaded otherwise.

[januszsz]

I am looking for entry lists of following rallies:
Hebros 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009;
Sliven 2006, 2007, 2008;
Vins Macon 2008;
Canaria (El Corte Ingles) 2008;
Iasului Tester (RO) 2007;
Centro de Portugal 2005, 2006, 2007;
Yalta 2007;
Postojinska Jama 2006;
Budapest 2006;
Saarland 2006 - here I look also for full result of the rally
Interspeed 2006;
South Swedish 2006;
Il Ciocco 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004;
Boucles de Spa 2001, 2002, 2003;
Romania 2001, 2002;
Ticino 2002;
Ardenes 2001;

Thank you in advance
and wish you all Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2012!

Regards
Janusz

[Wim_Impreza]

Hi Janusz,

The Boucles de Spa entry lists of 2002 and 2003 are here: Chronométrage - Races Information Services - Tag Heuer - Chronelec (http://www.ris-timing.be) (click on '2004', scroll a bit and click on 'Boucles de Spa', than you see also 2002 and 2003). You can also see there the final results, SS times and the retirements.

All about the Boucles de Spa 2001 is here: http://www.race-rally.be/bouclesdespa2001/default-.htm

I wish you and all the other members also a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year 2012.

[januszsz]

Thank you very much for information Wim!

[januszsz]

In late 60's there was a crew from Bulgaria K. Agura / A. Agura. Later on Atanas Agura was a driver himself. Who can help me with a christian name of "K" Agura?
Regards
Janusz

[Nenad Nikolic]

Hello Janusz, Interspeed 2006 (SRB)

http://www.autoportal.rs/auto-sport/domaci-auto-sport/-rsquo-12--interspeed-rally-rsquo----lista-prijavljenih-takmicara/ (http://www.autoportal.rs/auto-sport/domaci-auto-sport/-rsquo-12--interspeed-rally-rsquo----lista-prijavljenih-takmicara/)

http://www.nacionalnaklasa.com/content/view/1890/56/ (http://www.nacionalnaklasa.com/content/view/1890/56/)

[januszsz]

Hello Janusz, Interspeed 2006 (SRB)

http://www.autoportal.rs/auto-sport/domaci-auto-sport/-rsquo-12--interspeed-rally-rsquo----lista-prijavljenih-takmicara/ (http://www.autoportal.rs/auto-sport/domaci-auto-sport/-rsquo-12--interspeed-rally-rsquo----lista-prijavljenih-takmicara/)

http://www.nacionalnaklasa.com/content/view/1890/56/ (http://www.nacionalnaklasa.com/content/view/1890/56/)

Hi Nenad,
Thank you for your reply. Do you have lists of Interspeed Rally 1998 and 2000?
regards
Janusz

[Nenad Nikolic]

Janusz, this is start list for Postojnska jama: http://turizem-kras.si/wap/rezultati/startna_lista.pdf

[MG Rally]

Happy New Year to you all!

Does anyone have any entry lists or results for the 1987 and 1988 Rallye du Moroc please?

[MG Rally]

Happy New Year to you all!

Does anyone have any entry lists or results for the 1987 and 1988 Rallye du Moroc please?
Sorry, wrong year! :rolleyes:

It is the 1986 Rallye du Moroc that I am looking for details of please - date, entry list, results and photos if possible. Many thanks, and apologies for the confusion.

[Red bull]

WRC Greatest Rallies: Safari - Part 1/4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0tkGJA-7wY :D

[D-Type]

Fascinating! I grew up in Kenya in the fifties and early sixties and Easter weekend meant - simply - the Safari.

At that time, ie up to about 1967 or so, the cars had to be Group 1, absolutely bog standard with no modifications allowed. But it was run on mainly "main", but still dirt and bumpy, roads. After that, limited modifications were allowed. And by 1970 the rally was open to Group 2 cars. It was only later when highly modified cars were allowed that the real "car killer" roads were introduced.

[Red bull]

Fact....only two of the current wrc drivers drove in the safari rally SEB LOEB and PETTER SOLBERG!

[FAL]

Group 1, absolutely bog standard with no modifications allowed

A contradiction in terms! Let's not give further circulation to the myth that Gp1 meant standard!
I appreciate the Safari was more restricted than FIA Gp1 at one time. I think we have previously covered on here the actual changes/dates.

[D-Type]

I have no intention of promoting any myths! The original intention was "Absolutely standard, the same as any East African motorist could buy from a car showroom". The classes were even based on retail price. When the rally went international the REAAA adopted the current FIA Group 1.

Can you please provide a link to where this was discussed as I don't fancy ploughing through 1700+ posts looking for it.

[FAL]

Can you please provide a link to where this was discussed as I don't fancy ploughing through 1700+ posts looking for it.
I would if I didn't have to go through 1700 posts...
Do we have them all still? I thought someone said recently we'd lost earlier parts of the thread? The regular rally historians were involved IIRC and I'm sure someone confirmed 1967 was the first time Gp2 was alllowed.
What was confusing in 67 was that the Mk2 Cortina GTs Ford entered in Gp2 were mechanically (if not bodily) virtually Gp1 cars, the Mk2 Lotus not having been homologated yet (and the Mk2 GT probably not yet in Gp1?). Don't know the spec of the two(?)(Clark and Preston?) Mk1 Lotus entered but the MK1s, both Lotus and GT, had a lot of stuff homologated in Gp1.

[BDunnell]

I for one would really appreciate an 'online lecture', ideally in a separate thread, on the nuances of the Group system.

[FAL]

I for one would really appreciate an 'online lecture', ideally in a separate thread, on the nuances of the Group system.

Maybe we should ask Professor Stephen Hawking to take a year or so out from explaining the origin of the universe? - but he'd probably struggle to get his mind round Appendix J...

I recall we had someone come on here asking for a summary of the relevant Appendix J Groups for an article on Porsche 911s. He went a bit quiet after the initial replies and disappeared when we touched on the fact they virtually all changed most years to a greater or lesser extent...

"Greatest Homologation fiddles of all time" would also be a good subject...

[miksu]

I knew he has quite an collection of cars, but there was never really any proof of it, maybe i've seen some climpses. Now, check these pictures, a whole 140 of them. That is pretty damn impressive i might say!!

Inside the Car Collection of Finnish WRC Legend Juha Kankkunen on Inside Line (http://www.insideline.com/features/collection-of-a-lifetime.html)

[Wim_Impreza]

Fact....only two of the current wrc drivers drove in the safari rally SEB LOEB and PETTER SOLBERG!

François Delecour drives now in the Rallye Monte-Carlo and has done the Safari Rally in the past.

[stanislav197]

Please help me for name:ERC-1998: 10/Rally Criterium Jurasien- 8.place pilot "Roli Rolandini"-real name ;30/Rally Romania-10.place copilot J.M.Kuaranta (FR)-first name ; ERC-1997: 9/Rally Tour of Cyprus- 4.place "Jason"-real name , 8.place Haralambus (CY)-M.Joanu (CY)-first name and 9.place copilot Vrakas (CY)-first name ; 34/Rally Del Salento-10.place copilot L.Volpi (IT)-first name : ERC-1996: 7/Rally Circuit des Ardenes-7.place copilot Gasparis (BEL)-first name and 9.place De Cank (BEL)-De Suter (BEL)-first name ; 17/Rally Alsace Vosges - 9.place J.Nilsen (??)-P.Nilsen (??)-first name and state ; 18/Rota do Sol-10.place L.Silva (POR)-J.Pinto (POR)-first name ; 22/Rally Ipres-8.place copilot D.Kaytan (BEL)-first name ;23/Rally Romania-6.place Turon (??)-Cuno (??)-first name and state and 8.place Veriga (??)-Kas (??)-first name and state ;40/Rally Mesina- 10.place pilot Arkovito (IT)-first name ; 47/Rally San Marino-8.place "Mistral"(IT)-real name.

[hsmed]

Please help me for name:..... ERC-1996:..... 17/Rally Alsace Vosges - 9.place J.Nilsen (??)-P.Nilsen (??)-first name and state

The names of the driver and co-driver is:
Jørgen Nielsen / Preben Nielsen - both from Denmark.
Note that their last name is spelled Nielsen - not Nilsen.

[stanislav197]

Thanks,hsmed.

[januszsz]

Please help me for name:ERC-1998:
30/Rally Romania-10.place copilot J.M.Kuaranta (FR)-first name; Jean-M. Quaranta
34/Rally Del Salento-10.place copilot L.Volpi (IT)-first name: Luigi Volpi
ERC-1996:
22/Rally Ipres-8.place copilot D.Kaytan (BEL)-first name ;D. Caytan

Regards
Janusz

[Fred Gallagher]

Pneumant 72
01 Sobiesław Zasada PL Andrzej Komorowski PL Porsche 911S
02 Adam Smorawiński PL Andrzej Zembrzuski PL BMW 2002 TI
03 Peter Hommel DDR Günther Bork DDR Wartburg 353
04 Günther Gries DDR Harald Würfel DDR Wartburg 353
I have just only top 4
januszsz

05 Piehler/Sachse DDR Trabant 601
06 Hohlheimer/Huber D Fiat 128 Rallye
07 Kunze/Mausfeld D Porsche 911T
08 Hense/Bomhard D BMW 3.0S
09 Jelsdorf/Gliese DK Opel Rallye Kadett
10 Svensson/Sylvan S Porsche 911

Fred

[januszsz]

05 Piehler/Sachse DDR Trabant 601
06 Hohlheimer/Huber D Fiat 128 Rallye
07 Kunze/Mausfeld D Porsche 911T
08 Hense/Bomhard D BMW 3.0S
09 Jelsdorf/Gliese DK Opel Rallye Kadett
10 Svensson/Sylvan S Porsche 911

Fred

Thank you very much Mr Gallagher. It was one of ERC rallies I couldn't find more than top 5.
There are some more "impossible to find" rallies:
1971 Geneve 7th-10th
1972 Tour de Belgique 7th-10th
1972 Paris-St. Rapahel Feminin 6th-10th
1973 Cyprus 7th-10th
1974 San Marino 7th-10th
1974 Donau 7th-10th
1974 Lugano 7th-10th
1974 OASC 7th-10th
1976 Sachs Winter 9th-10th
1976 Criterium Bianchi 7th-10th
1977 OASC 2nd-10th (I have just only the winner!)
1977 Bosphorus 6th-10th

If you are able to help me I'll be very appreciated.

Regards
Janusz

[Fred Gallagher]

Das Gesamtklassement des 39. Rallye
von Genf
1. Nicolas/Todt (F), Alpine, 8418 Punkte;
2 Henry/Grobot (F), Alpine, 8723;
3. Haldi/Chapuis (CH), Porsche, 8746;
4. Vetsch/Olivier (CH) Porsche, 9037;
5. Palayer/Rouff(F), Alpine Renault, 9163;
6. Fiorentino/Gelin(F), Simca CG, 9256;
7. Lepoutre/Dufosse(F), Alpine Renault, 9286;
8. Chasseuil/Baron(F), Alfa R. 1750, 9524;
9. Trautmann/Desvignes(F), Alpine R., 9677;
10. Ragnotti'Thimonier(F) Opel K., 9749;

[januszsz]

Das Gesamtklassement des 39. Rallye
von Genf
1. Nicolas/Todt (F), Alpine, 8418 Punkte;
2 Henry/Grobot (F), Alpine, 8723;
3. Haldi/Chapuis (CH), Porsche, 8746;
4. Vetsch/Olivier (CH) Porsche, 9037;
5. Palayer/Rouff(F), Alpine Renault, 9163;
6. Fiorentino/Gelin(F), Simca CG, 9256;
7. Lepoutre/Dufosse(F), Alpine Renault, 9286;
8. Chasseuil/Baron(F), Alfa R. 1750, 9524;
9. Trautmann/Desvignes(F), Alpine R., 9677;
10. Ragnotti'Thimonier(F) Opel K., 9749;
Thank you once more Mr Gallagher. One question to those results above. 9th overall was Rene or Claudine Trautmann with Marie-Odile Desvignes? I think it was Claudine as she was used to drive with Marie-Odile and she was connected with Renault. But it is always better to check and ask.
Regards
Janusz

[Fred Gallagher]

Yes, definitely Claudine. And my name is Fred, not Mr!

[januszsz]

Thank you M... Fred ;) and regards Janusz

[Fred Gallagher]

That's curious. The information I gave came from a book by Philip Porter. I would have expected a historian of his stature to have included the names of all three of the car's crew and not just two of them. Maybe it's because it's a photo caption which didn't get the same degree of scrutiny and proof reading that the main text of a book does.

Duncan - sorry for the late reply.

I think the reason that third (or fourth) drivers are often overlooked is that the ACM neither mentioned them in the programme or the official results. On some occasions only the two "main" members of the crew were allowed to be in the car for the final Etape de Classement.

Fred

[D-Type]

Thanks for the clarification - A rather different world from today's in many ways.

[Infiniti]

Dear All,

Back again after a long long time.
Could someone fill in the missing names?

1975 - 20. Hanki Rally 26-28 February
7 up to 10?

1976 - 21. Hanki Rally 5-7 March
1 Tapio Rainio – Erkki Nyman Saab 96 V4
2 Ulf Grönholm/??? Opel Ascona
3 Simo Lampinen/??? Saab 96 V4
4 Timo Makela/??? Chrysler Imp
5 Markku Saaristo /??? Skoda 120 S
6 Timo Salonen/??? Datsun Violet
7 Heikki Vilkman/??? Saab 96 V4
8 Kyösti Hämaläinen/??? Chrysler Avenger
9 Pertti Karha/??? Chrysler Avenger
10 Kauko Makela/??? Peugeot 304

1977 - 22. Hanki Rally 18-20 February
8 Erkki Pitkänen/??? Chrysler Avenger
9 ???/???
10 ???/???

1981 - 26. Hanki Rally 27 February-1 March
4 Stig Blomqvist/??? Gröndahl Saab 99 Turbo

1984 - 29. Hanki Rally 24-26 February
9 Sebastian Lindholm/???Ohmann Opel Ascona

1966 - 1. Arctic Rally
1 Kari O. Sohlberg/Y. Rouhunkoski Volkswagen 1600
2 Veijo Pääkkönen/??? Raitanen Ford Cortina GT

1973 - 8. Arctic Rally 2-4 February
6 Arto Huhtasalo - Jukka Pietilä Volvo 142
7 ??? Huhtasalo/??? Kyllönen Volvo 142
10 ???Poranen/??? Pettersson Ford Escort GT

1974 - 9. Arctic Rally 31 January-2 February
9 ??? Malmgren-??? Jonsson Saab 96 V4
10 ??? Petterson/??? Bergsten Saab 96 V4

1975 - 10. Tunturi Arctic Rally 30 January-2 February
6 Heikki Vilkman/??? Kataja Saab 96 V4
9 ???/???
10 ???/???

1980 - 15. Arctic Rally 2-3 February
4 Mikael Sundström/??? Hjelm Ford Escort RS
6 ??? Lappalainen/??? Lappalainen Ford Escort RS
7 Erkki Pahkinen/??? Kujanpaa Ford Escort RS
8 Raimo Hämeenniemi/??? Pikkiarainen Ford Escort RS
10 ??? Heikkila/??? Heikkila Talbot Sunbeam TI

Regards,
Infiniti

[januszsz]

1975 - 20. Hanki Rally 26-28 February
7 up to 10?
07 Ulf Grönholm FIN Raimo Anttonen FIN Volvo 142
08 Timo Salonen FIN Seppo Harjanne FIN Volvo 142
09 Heikki Enomaa FIN Matti Honkavaara FIN BMW 2002
10 Kaj Fyhrqvist FIN Leif Malmström FIN Opel Ascona

1976 - 21. Hanki Rally 5-7 March
1 Tapio Rainio – Erkki Nyman Saab 96 V4
2 Ulf Grönholm/Raimo Anttonen Opel Ascona
3 Simo Lampinen/Juhani Markkanen Saab 96 V4
4 Timo Mäkelä/Juhani Korhonen Chrysler Imp
5 Markku Saaristo /Timo Alanen Skoda 120 S
6 Timo Salonen/Jaakko Markkula Datsun Violet
7 Heikki Vilkman/M. Kataja Saab 96 V4
8 Kyösti Hämaläinen/Urppo Vihervaara Chrysler Avenger
9 Pertti Karha/Seppo Siitonen Chrysler Avenger
10 Kauko Mäkelä/Jukka Miettinen Peugeot 304

1977 - 22. Hanki Rally 18-20 February
8 Erkki Pitkänen/??? Chrysler Avenger
9 ???/???
10 ???/???
for 1977 I have:
08 Jan-Erik Lundgren S Martti Seitsola FIN Saab 96 V4
09 Timo Mäkelä FIN Juhani Korhonen FIN Chrysler Avenger
10 Pertti Kärhä FIN Jorma Helenius FIN Ford Escort RS2000


1981 - 26. Hanki Rally 27 February-1 March
4 Stig Blomqvist/Robbie Gröndahl Saab 99 Turbo

1984 - 29. Hanki Rally 24-26 February
9 Sebastian Lindholm/???Ohmann Opel Ascona

1966 - 1. Arctic Rally
1 Kari O. Sohlberg/Y. Rouhunkoski Volkswagen 1600
2 Veijo Pääkkönen/??? Raitanen Ford Cortina GT

1973 - 8. Arctic Rally 2-4 February
6 Arto Huhtasalo - Jukka Pietilä Volvo 142
7 ??? Huhtasalo/Tapio Kyllönen Volvo 142
10 Heikki Poranen/Henry Pettersson Ford Escort GT

1974 - 9. Arctic Rally 31 January-2 February
9 Kurt Malmgren-Göran Jonsson Saab 96 V4
10 Dag Petterson/Roland Bergsten Saab 96 V4

1975 - 10. Tunturi Arctic Rally 30 January-2 February
6 Heikki Vilkman/Matti Kataja Saab 96 V4
09 Esko Nuutila / Matti Olkku FIN Vauxhall Magnum
10 Kauko Mäkelä / Pentti Kuukkala FIN Peugeot 304 S


1980 - 15. Arctic Rally 2-3 February
4 Mikael Sundström/Markku Hjelm Ford Escort RS
6 Timo Lappalainen/Matti Lappalainen Ford Escort RS
7 Erkki Pahkinen/Kalevi Kujanpää Ford Escort RS
8 Raimo Hämeenniemi/Jaakko Pikkarainen Ford Escort RS
10 Reijo Heikkilä/Varpu Heikkilä Talbot Sunbeam TI

Regards
Janusz

[Infiniti]

Dear janusz

Many thanks.

Regards,
Infiniti

[Jagpushrod]

Since starting this thread...i have "discovered" more about the topic by inserting letters in provincial newspapers..
The 1951 Waring/Wadham (as in Wadham Stringer ) pairing..who shared the same initials and Birthday...were in deed partnered by Dougie Sharp...all local to Portsmouth.
I met Dougie on Hayling Island and gained access to Wally Warings 72 page "photo Album " on the 1951 event via his son Stuart... a fine 9th place out of 340 starters...

The 1950 team Dennis Warwick and Brother Frederick from St Albans were assisted by young Alban Warwick...only 16 at the time ..but allowed to drive once in France....(local law )

The 1953 Manchester -Hyde entry of Harry Harrop and Tommy Saxton were aided by Frank Handsworth..all local Hyde lads ..this info via Harrys son..alas the 1953 team are no more...

Back to 1951...well Known pre war racer Reggie Tongue and Spitfire pilot got two of his WW2 RAF chums Michael Royce and P.E. Warr ( injured over/at Arnhem badly ) to join him.. finishing 31st....still trying to find out more about this team...may require a letter in a RAF magazine..

so yes...the 3rd and sometimes 4th members in the big saloon cars of the
early 50,s are virtually forgotten...
I plan to retrace some ,51 route in the Cental Massif and Maritime Alps in June in my
Mk V.. In the meantime several more teams to track down...

Ed Abbott

[D-Type]

Please keep us posted on how you get on and what you find out

[DeltaS4]

Not sure where to put this, but it's a great account of the crazy end to the 1974 USA WRC round, the Press-on-Regardless in Michigan, where the local sheriff attempted to end the rally.

In The Garage: The Midnight Ride of Sandro Munari (http://rgruppe.blogspot.com/2010/02/midnight-ride-of-sandro-munari.html)

[alangiddins]

Can anyone help me with the 1984 middle East Rally Championship results for rallies in Kuwai, Bahrain, Qatar, UAE, Oman & Jordan? I lost all my records and we entered a Porsche 911SCRS sponsored by Gulf Air alongside Rothmans 911SCRS

[Infiniti]

This is what I have.
If someone can add up to 10th, please.

Middle East Rally Championship 1984


Rally of Qatar 26-27 January

1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
2 Mohammed bin Sulayem – John Daniels Opel Manta 400
3 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica
4 Paul Connolly – Euen Burke Audi Quattro
5 Tony Georgiou – David Porter Nissan 240 RS
10 Mubarek Al Hajri - Datsun 160J


Rally of Kuwait 23-24 February
1 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica Turbo
2 Al Zaffeiri – Sadeq Ashkenani Nissan 240 RS
3 Al Beirami – Zaid Nissan Violet
4 Chris Walles – Steve McCormack Porsche 911 SC RS


2. Rally of Bahrain 29-30 May
1 Russell Brookes – Mike Broad Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
2 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
3 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica


2. Marriott Hotel Rally of Jordan 27-28 July
1 Mohammed bin Sulayem – Hasan bin Shahdour Toyota Celica TCT
2 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica TCT
3 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
4 David Jepson – Raymond Millward Toyota Corolla GT
5 Vahan Terizian – John Theophanous Nissan 240 RS
6 Anthony Walker – Gordon McKenzie Nissan 240 RS
7 George Khayyat – Vaughan Dennis Nissan 240 RS
8 Mark Leonard – Handa Leonard Toyota Corolla 1600 GT
9 Tarek Al Wazzan – Fayez Chehab Nissan Skyline
10 Haile Aguilar – Gonzalo Aguilar Toyota Celica

4. Rally of Oman 1-2 November
1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
2 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica Turbo
3 Tony Georgiou – David Porter Nissan 240 RS
4 Hamoud Al Said – L. Baylis Nissan 240 RS
5 S.K. Al Busaidy – Tony Steele Mercedes Benz 280 SE
6 A. Al Lamky – K. Al Jabry Nissan 240 RS

Rally of Dubai 6-7 December
1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
2 Mohammed bin Sulayem – Hasan bin Shahdour Toyota Celica TCT
3 Swaidan – Alan Skennerton Range Rover


Final Championship Points:

1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller 124
2 Mohammed bin Sulayem 72
3 Tony Georgiou – David Porter 59
4 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia 44
5 Mark Leonard – Handa Leonard 42

[RobertS]

Please help me with these names from 1970 ERC >

Titus Maier Kaibic - M...? Waidacher A Ford Escort
Dr. Ernst Bladerer - H...? Müller Guttenbrunn A Volvo 122 S
Wolfgang Grass - E...? Grass D Ford Capri
Hans Beckenbauer - K...? Kriz D BMW
Otto Karl Klemenz - H...? Lutz D BMW

Thanks in advance!

[RobertS]

Have you any data ? > 1979 Tour de la Med'

[ChristianArp]

Hi guys.

New user, having followed the forum vigorously for several years, and now I need your help! :D

Having recently started my rallying career, I have ended up with Suzuki Motorsport in Denmark. The boss of the team is Anders Lysen, who has driven a variety of cars, but one in particular has been of my interest: A Toyota Celica ST205. In itself maybe not the most exciting car, but the history makes it interesting to me.

The facts I know:
Anders drove the car in 2000.
It ran (fortunately for the 'history lesson') on the number K:AM 3643 when Anders had it.
He bought it from Jens Mulvad, who used it in 1999.
It was used by Freddy Loix at some stage, might have been the Ypres 1996 and '97-winning car.
It was used by Abdullah Bakhashab for a period of time (I assume this to be the car he used in the '98 WRC).
It was reported in a Danish magazine that the car was one of two Celicas used as test mules for Corolla WRC-parts, and that the other car was in the firm grip of TTE/Toyota.
Anders sold the car to a Dutchman or Belgian, he does not remember who.


What I am interested in is the later history of the car, and if possible, the current location of it, as I (and Anders) are very interested in knowing its whereabouts.

Hope you guys can help! :)

[Infiniti]

Hello All,

Can someone help me with the missing names?

ERC 1 – 23. Rally Monte Carlo 18-25 January
3 R. Marion - J. Charmasson/ Citroën 15/6
8 Donald Bennett - Mrs E. Bennett/ Jaguar Mk VII
10 E. Matuella - Roberto Piodi/ Lancia Aurelia

1953 - ERC 2 – 4. Sestrière Rally 26 February-2 March
10 Emanuele Nasi – Ceriana/ Fiat

1953 - ERC 3 – 11. RAC Rally 23-28 March
2 Ronnie Adams – J. Pearman/ Sunbeam Talbot 90 MK II
5 Donald Bennett - Mrs. E. Bennett/ Jaguar XK120
6 Len Shaw - M.E. Finnemore/ MG YB
8 Frank Grounds - J.B. Hay / Jaguar XK120
9 George R. Hartwell - F.W. Scott/ Sunbeam-Talbot

1953 - ERC 4 – 5. Tulip Rally 26 April-2 May
4 André Jetten – L. van Noordwijk/ Vauxhall
8 J. Scheffer - G. Willing/ Jowett Javelin

1953 - ERC 5 – 3. Rally Travemunde 3-7 June
3 Walter Scheube - P. Gierke/ Ford Taunus 12M
9 I. Prahl - H. Prahl/ Volkswagen Export

1953 - ERC 6 – 4. Svenska Rallyt till Midnassolen 5-8 June
7 T. Nyström – T. Sundström/ Vauxhall
8 Karl-Einar Andersson – O. Tryggvensson/ Fiat 1100 TV

1953 - ERC 7 – 16. Coupé des Alpes 10-16 July
2 Rudolf Sauerwein - O. Castell/ Porsche 356 1500S
8 Ferdinando Gatta – Cottino/ Lancia

1953 - ERC 8 – 11. Liège - Roma – Liège 19-23 August
8 Slater – Peter Boltron/ Jaguar XK 120
9 Franco Bigoni – Curies/ Citroën 15 CV

1953 - ERC 10 – 7. Lisabon Rally 13-18 October
1 Joaquim Filipe Nogueira – Sousa/ Porsche 356 1500 S
6 Nancy Mitchell – J. Leavens/ Ford Zephyr
9 Fernando Stock - ????/ Porsche 356

[petem]

Hi all, i have recently been given 5 rally trophys and would greatly appreciate any help you could give for what driver/Car if possible won them, they are


ADAC - ALB - BODENSEE RALLYE 1975 3 PLATZ - This stands around 6" tall, looks like a shell casing, chrome plated[/*:m:mhogm5ke]
ADAC - ALB - BODENSEE RALLYE 1975 2 PLATZ - OSG HEGAU BODENSEE - This stands around 8" tall, looks like a shell casing made of brass[/*:m:mhogm5ke]
1975 ALB - BODENSEE RALLYE 1975 BESTES AUSLANDSTEAM - OSG HEGAU BODENSEE - This stands around 6" tall, looks like a shell casing, stainless steel[/*:m:mhogm5ke]
JUNEBUG 1975 3rd LANDROVER - 7" tall, Chrome plated again looks similar to a shell casing but is ribbed at the base[/*:m:mhogm5ke]
2 WINNENDER RALLYE 1974 - 6" tall, Chrome plated again looks similar to a shell casing but is ribbed at the base[/*:m:mhogm5ke]
Thanks for any help you can give - Pete

[Euen]

Have added some details in line for Qatar and Bahrain. I should have Dubai as well but I can't lay my hands on them at the moment.
E


This is what I have.
If someone can add up to 10th, please.

Middle East Rally Championship 1984


Rally of Qatar 26-27 January

1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
2 Mohammed bin Sulayem – John Daniels Opel Manta 400
3 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica
4 Paul Connolly – Euen Burke Audi Quattro
5 Tony Georgiou – David Porter Nissan 240 RS
6 Suleiman Kharusi - Warith Kharusi Toyota Celica
7 Hamad Al Mazroui - Andreas Stylianou Nissan 240RS
8 Wahid Gharib Al Oufy - Paul Gomm Subaru
9 Mark Leonard - Handa Leonard Toyota Corolla
10 Mubarek Al Hajri - Bashar Abu Kura Datsun 160J


Rally of Kuwait 23-24 February
1 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica Turbo
2 Al Zaffeiri – Sadeq Ashkenani Nissan 240 RS
3 Al Beirami – Zaid Nissan Violet
4 Chris Walles – Steve McCormack Porsche 911 SC RS


2. Rally of Bahrain 22-23 March (May would be way too hot)
1 Russell Brookes – Mike Broad Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
2 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
3 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica
4 Mark Leonard - Handa Leonard Toyota Corolla
5 Hamad Al Mazroui - Andreas Stylianou Nissan 240RS
6 Saleh Gharib Al Oufy - Paul Gomm Subaru
7 Tony Georgiou – David Porter Nissan 240 RS
8 Ibrahim Mattar - Khalid Engineer Saehan Bird
9 Jaber Al Marri - A Al Mosawi Toyota Celica
10 David Evans - Howard tonge Vauxhall Chevette HSR

2. Marriott Hotel Rally of Jordan 27-28 July
1 Mohammed bin Sulayem – Hasan bin Shahdour Toyota Celica TCT
2 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica TCT
3 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
4 David Jepson – Raymond Millward Toyota Corolla GT
5 Vahan Terizian – John Theophanous Nissan 240 RS
6 Anthony Walker – Gordon McKenzie Nissan 240 RS
7 George Khayyat – Vaughan Dennis Nissan 240 RS
8 Mark Leonard – Handa Leonard Toyota Corolla 1600 GT
9 Tarek Al Wazzan – Fayez Chehab Nissan Skyline
10 Haile Aguilar – Gonzalo Aguilar Toyota Celica

4. Rally of Oman 1-2 November
1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
2 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia Marlboro Toyota Celica Turbo
3 Tony Georgiou – David Porter Nissan 240 RS
4 Hamoud Al Said – L. Baylis Nissan 240 RS
5 S.K. Al Busaidy – Tony Steele Mercedes Benz 280 SE
6 A. Al Lamky – K. Al Jabry Nissan 240 RS

Rally of Dubai 6-7 December
1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
2 Mohammed bin Sulayem – Hasan bin Shahdour Toyota Celica TCT
3 Swaidan – Alan Skennerton Range Rover


Final Championship Points:

1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller 124
2 Mohammed bin Sulayem 72
3 Tony Georgiou – David Porter 59
4 Michel Saleh – Tony Samia 44
5 Mark Leonard – Handa Leonard 42

[januszsz]

I am looking for final results (at least top 3) of ERC:

1955 1. Werner Engel (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2.................., 3.......................
1956 1. Walter Schock (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2................, 3.......................
1957 1. Ruprecht Hopfen (D) Saab, Borgward, 2.............., 3......................
1958 1. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo, 2.........................., 3......................
1959 1. Paul Coltelloni (F) Citroën, Alfa Romeo, 2................, 3....................
1960 1. Walter Schock (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2....................., 3....................
1961 1. Hans-Joachim Walter (D) Porsche, 2......................., 3.....................
1962 1. Eugen Böhringer (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2.........................., 3......................
and
1966 Gr 1: 1. Lillebror Nasenius (S) Opel, 2..............................., 3...........................
Gr 2: 1. Sobiesław Zasada (PL) Steyr-Puch, 2. Timo Mäkinen (FIN) BMC, 3.......................
Gr 3: 1. Günter Klass (D) Porsche, 2......................., 3.

Thank you in advance
Janusz

[Euen]

Re the 1984 Middle East Rally Champs,Dubai Rally, I was only able to find the first 6

Rally of Dubai 6-7 December
1 Saeed Al Hajri – John Spiller Rothmans Porsche Rally Team 911 SC RS
2 Mohammed bin Sulayem – Hassan Ali bin Shahdour Toyota Celica TCT
3 Mohamed (Busalem) Swaidan – Alan Skennerton Range Rover
4 Abdulla Lamki - Khaled Al Jabri Nissan 240RS
5 George Haddad - F Sawalha Toyota Celica
6 Tony Georgiou - C Dunn Nissan 240RS

I was Clerk of the Course for that one but unfortunately I don't have the full results any more.

Cheers
Euen

[Infiniti]

Dear Euen,

Thanks a lot. Do you have some more results of the ME championship?
If so, I can check my missing results.

Regards,
Infiniti

[JLe]

1976 - 21. Hanki Rally 5-7 March
7 Heikki Vilkman/Matti Kataja Saab 96 V4
8 Kyösti Hämäläinen/Urpo Vihervaara Chrysler Avenger
9 Pertti Kärhä/Seppo Siitonen Chrysler Avenger

1981 - 26. Hanki Rally 27 February-1 March
4 Stig Blomqvist/Robert Gröndahl Saab 99 Turbo

1984 - 29. Hanki Rally 24-26 February
9 Sebastian Lindholm/Don Björkström Opel Ascona B

1966 - 1. Arctic Rally
1 Kari O. Sohlberg/Yrjö Rouhunkoski Volkswagen 1600 TL
2 Veijo Pääkkönen/Erkki Raitanen Ford Cortina GT

1973 - 8. Arctic Rally 2-4 February
7 Martti Heiskanen/Tapio Kyllönen Volvo 142

1980 - 15. Arctic Rally 2-3 February
4 Mikael Sundström/Markku Hjelm Ford Escort RS 2000
6 Timo Lappalainen/Martti Lappalainen Ford Escort RS 2000
7 Erkki Pahkinen/Kalevi Kujanpää Ford Escort RS 2000
8 Raimo Hämeenniemi/Jaakko Pikkarainen Ford Escort RS 2000


-JLe-

[JLe]

Hello,

I'm looking for any information of Opel Ascona 400 reg. PA-CE 802. Mr. Peter Mattig sold that car to Finland at 1983. Does anyone know any rallies or other history for this car before?

Mattig also had Ascona 400 reg. PA-CE 803 which was in his own use.

Also any information of 1983 Rallye Köln Ahrweiler's Finnish competitors is very welcome. Entry list, results, pictures...


thanks,

-JLe-

[M.Carlo]

ERC
1960 1. Walter Schock (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2. René Trautmann (F) Citroën, 3. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo
1961 1. Hans-Joachim Walter (D) Porsche, 2. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo, 3. Eugen Böhringer (D) Mercedes-Benz, 4. Carl-Magnus Skogh (S) Saab, 5. Rauno Aaltonen (SF) Mercedes-Benz, 6. Erik Carlsson (S) Saab
1962 1. Eugen Böhringer (D) Mercedes-Benz (158), 2. Erik Carlsson (S) Saab (153), 3. Pat Moss (GB) Austin-Healey, 4. Hans-Joachim Walter (D) Porsche

[stanislav197]

M.Carlo you know how many points ERC 1962 for 1 place - ? , 2 place - ? , 3 place -? , 4 place - ? , 5 place - ? , 6 place - ? , 7 place - ? , 8 place - ? , 9 place - ? and 10 place - ? point .

[januszsz]

ERC
1960 1. Walter Schock (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2. René Trautmann (F) Citroën, 3. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo
1961 1. Hans-Joachim Walter (D) Porsche, 2. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo, 3. Eugen Böhringer (D) Mercedes-Benz, 4. Carl-Magnus Skogh (S) Saab, 5. Rauno Aaltonen (SF) Mercedes-Benz, 6. Erik Carlsson (S) Saab
1962 1. Eugen Böhringer (D) Mercedes-Benz (158), 2. Erik Carlsson (S) Saab (153), 3. Pat Moss (GB) Austin-Healey, 4. Hans-Joachim Walter (D) Porsche
Many thanks M.Carlo!
So my wish-list looks now as follows (final results - at least top 3 - of ERC:

1955 1. Werner Engel (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2.................., 3.......................
1956 1. Walter Schock (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2................, 3.......................
1957 1. Ruprecht Hopfen (D) Saab, Borgward, 2.............., 3......................
1958 1. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo, 2.........................., 3......................
1959 1. Paul Coltelloni (F) Citroën, Alfa Romeo, 2................, 3....................
and
1964 1. Tom Trana (S) Volvo, 2. Erik Carlsson (S) Saab, 3........................ (I missed it on the first wish-list)
1966 Gr 1: 1. Lillebror Nasenius (S) Opel, 2..............................., 3...........................
Gr 2: 1. Sobiesław Zasada (PL) Steyr-Puch, 2. Timo Mäkinen (FIN) BMC, 3.......................
Gr 3: 1. Günter Klass (D) Porsche, 2......................., 3.

Thank you in advance
Janusz

[M.Carlo]

for Stanislav197
ERC 1962
winner = 8 points x koeficient (1-49 entrans = koef.1; 50-149 = koef.2; 150 and over = koef. 2,5)

[M.Carlo]

ERC 1964: 1. Tom Trana (S) Volvo, 2. Erik Carlsson (S) Saab, 3. Pat Moss-Carlsson (GB) Saab

[Vosg Patt]

Hello all,
Can someone help for RAC 1976
The following crews have they the start?
#35 ASTERHAG Leif - GULLBERG Anders (Toyota Celica)
#49 GALLACHER Drew - MC HARG David (Ford Escort RS 1600)
#65 KERC Alain - CHATRIOT François (Opel Kadett GTE)
#75 JOHANSSON Erik - ??? ??? (Saab 99 EMS)
#76 CLOSE Russell - GORMLEY Kevin (Ford Escort RS 1800)
and Monte Carlo 1976
The following crews have they the start?
#52 BIEN Marian - BJEDYLAK (Polski Fiat 125p)
Thanks you

[Infiniti]

Dear JLe, thanks for the missing names.
Do you also know the name of the co-driver of John Haugland, when he finished 8th on the Artic 1975.

Infiniti

[FAL]

Hello all,
Can someone help for RAC 1976
The following crews have they the start?
#35 ASTERHAG Leif - GULLBERG Anders (Toyota Celica)
#49 GALLACHER Drew - MC HARG David (Ford Escort RS 1600)
#65 KERC Alain - CHATRIOT François (Opel Kadett GTE)
#75 JOHANSSON Erik - ??? ??? (Saab 99 EMS)
#76 CLOSE Russell - GORMLEY Kevin (Ford Escort RS 1800)
and Monte Carlo 1976
The following crews have they the start?
#52 BIEN Marian - BJEDYLAK (Polski Fiat 125p)
Thanks you

I don't have any of the 76 RAC official paperwork now (I was a competitor) other than the Road Book and the original entry list. Motoring News often used to print a list of retired crews and reasons for retirement a week after the main rally report - but I only have the edition with the main report now. If someone has that later edition it might be possible to work out non-starters.
Of your list, only Asterhag and Gallacher are mentioned in the report - the former as off on Staindale and the latter as out with clutch problems quite early on.
FJG from here was a competitor, so may have some better records.

[stanislav197]

Arild Antonsen (Norway) is co-driver of John Haugland on Rally Arctic 1975

[januszsz]

Hello all,
Can someone help for Monte Carlo 1976
The following crews have they the start?
#52 BIEN Marian - BJEDYLAK (Polski Fiat 125p)
Thanks you
No 52 Marian BIEN / Janina JEDYNAK (mind the spelling) did start the rally but retired - reason unknown to me.
Regards
Janusz

[Vosg Patt]

Thanks you FAL and Janusz

Monte Carlo 1977
N° ES for retirement
COPPIER Alain - HENUSET Jacques (NSU 67 F)
STAWOWIAK Maciej -SZYZYK Jan (Polski Fiat 125p)
CIECIERZYNSKI Tomasz - ROZANSKI Jacek (Polski Fiat 125p)
BIEN Marian - JEDYNAK Janina (Polski Fiat 125p)
WERYCHOWSKI Adam - DOBRZANSKI Jerzy (Polski Fiat 125p)

[januszsz]

Thanks you FAL and Janusz

Monte Carlo 1977
N° ES for retirement
COPPIER Alain - HENUSET Jacques (NSU 67 F)
STAWOWIAK Maciej -SZYZYK Jan (Polski Fiat 125p)
CIECIERZYNSKI Tomasz - ROZANSKI Jacek (Polski Fiat 125p)
BIEN Marian - JEDYNAK Janina (Polski Fiat 125p)
WERYCHOWSKI Adam - DOBRZANSKI Jerzy (Polski Fiat 125p)
I can't help you with your question, but I have to cerrect some names:

Jan CZYZYK
Adam WEDRYCHOWSKI

Regards
Janusz

[Vosg Patt]

Thanks you Janusz
Over question
New Zealand 1977
The following crews have they the start?
#41 ken ADAMSON - Don LOWE (Toyota Corolla)
#60 Mark JENNINGS - Brian THOMPSON (Ford Escort RS 2000)

Regards

[januszsz]

Thanks you Janusz
Over question
New Zealand 1977
The following crews have they the start?
#41 ken ADAMSON - Don LOWE (Toyota Corolla)
#60 Mark JENNINGS - Brian THOMPSON (Ford Escort RS 2000)
Regards
Sorry, I don't have such information.
Regards
Janusz

[pettersolberg29]

Just a quick and modern query - did Petter Solberg finish 11th in Acropolis Rally 2000 or did he retire? I've seen contrasting reports.

[focus206]

Just a quick and modern query - did Petter Solberg finish 11th in Acropolis Rally 2000 or did he retire? I've seen contrasting reports.

I've got two sources that list him as retired on SS19 (differential)...

[pettersolberg29]

Thanks mate - just looking at records and SS19 was the final stage of the rally, and he won it so I was confused as to how or why he could win the last stage yet retire from the rally. Anyone got any further info or have I just got things mixed up somewhere? I assume it must be a road section retirement but damaged front diffs is an odd one.

[DIMI44]

Thanks mate - just looking at records and SS19 was the final stage of the rally, and he won it so I was confused as to how or why he could win the last stage yet retire from the rally. Anyone got any further info or have I just got things mixed up somewhere? I assume it must be a road section retirement but damaged front diffs is an odd one.
Petter Solberg was fastest on five of third/final leg seven stages but became the last major retirement of the event when his diff failed on the way into final service.

[pettersolberg29]

Aah just as I suspected. Cheers DIMI44!

[Vosg Patt]

Thank you Janusz

Monte Carlo 1973
The following crews have they the start?
#50 KOOB Nicolas - LINDEN Leo (BMW 2002 Ti)
#68 CANELLAS Salvador - FERRATER Daniel (Seat 127)
# 90 "GEDEHEM" - LAVERNE Vincent (Porsche 911 S)
#135 RAUSCH Horst - FISCHER Thomas (BMW 2002 Ti)
#160 WATHEN Christopher - BOSENCE Timothy (Ford Escort RS 1600)
#214 FIORESE Jean Marie - LE SAUX Daniel (Ford Capri )

Regards

[D-Type]

Easter weekend is here again. As I grew up in Kenya this has always meant "THE SAFARI"

The real Safari was always run over Easter weekend. This meant that the totally amateur organisers from the Clerk of the Course down to the scooter club escorting the cars to and from the start (my contribution to the event) were available without having to take time off from their meagre holiday allowance. It also meant the same for the drivers who were all amateur - the most professional would be those whose day job was working for one of the main dealers. The radio "hams" were available to provide a volunteer communications service to supplement the telephone, particularly in remote areas.

The Easter date added to the unpredictability of the weather conditions. The heavy "Long Rains" would arrive some time in march or April and the date of Easter varied from late march to nid-April. The result was you could have a totally dry Safari as in 1956 with 78 finishers from 90 starters and 13 with clean sheets to a very wet one like 1968 with 7 finishers from 93 starters despite cutting out the worst sections and extending the maximum lateness.

The 3 countries (Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania/Tanganyika) really took the Safari to heart. The papers produced supplements with the route and the full entry. You could buy a programme and scorecard at any newsagent. The radio had a full report every two hours giving the accumulated penalties or reason for retirement for every competitor. As the expat community was fairly small we always knew a few competitors, including one year our next door neighbour (retired in floods near Morogoro in Tanzania).

If at home in Nairobi we always went down to the start to see pristine cars at 1 minute intervals and the finish to see travel worn cars arriving over a period of a few hours. When we were away for the weekend we would try to watch the Safari - I can remember waiting for ages at a road side somewhere in pitch darkness and waiting to hear the first car getting nearer and nearer until it went past us in a flash and then the sound faded into the distance. The high pitched whine of Eric Carlsson's Saab could be heard for longest.

After the rally the papers again produced supplements giving blow by blow accounts of how every car had done. "Retired at Athi River - hit zebra" is one I remember.

Ah, memories! :)

[cvhi]

Hello, I Search entry list about these rally

BARUM 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 1994 1996

SUMAVA 1997 1998 1999

INTERSPEED 1998 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005

ELMOT RALLY 1998 1999

SLIVEN 1994 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005

I search entry list and not start list, thank you for your help

[email:6vikx5j0]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:6vikx5j0]

[Frezzy]

Hi , i search entry list for the 1986 Mont Blanc Rally .
Thanks for your help !

[elvis]

Hello everybody ,

Some questioons about the belgian rally championship , the "international" one from the 90's ....

Somebody can explain me how did it worked ? what was the point system ? it's looked some coeficient existed , and drivers could scored in other country ?

I try to make the points table of this era , so i take every information.

Thanks in advance for your knowledge. ;)

[januszsz]

Hello everybody ,

Some questioons about the belgian rally championship , the "international" one from the 90's ....

Somebody can explain me how did it worked ? what was the point system ? it's looked some coeficient existed , and drivers could scored in other country ?

I try to make the points table of this era , so i take every information.

Thanks in advance for your knowledge. ;)

I can confirm that drivers could score points driving abroad. It was also with French drivers in 70's. I remember one or two Rallye de Pologne of 70's as a part of French Rally Championship. No idea on coefficient system...
Regards
Janusz

[Vosg Patt]

Hello everybody,

For French pilots in the 70's and 80's, they had the possibility of marks of points on a rally out of Championship, WRC or ERC (Coeff 4), one result for year

Regards

[FAL]

My recollection of the 80s Belgian Open Championship, when I did some of the rallies, was that championship contenders could count 2 foreign events (I think, of high ERC co-efficient).

[ReWind]

@kabouter:

Australia
Fred (full name: Dyteris Manfredas = Dieter Manfred) Gocentas, b. 20 May 1940
Austria
Oliver Apfelthaler, b. 27 May 1980
Markus Egger, b. 06 March 1968
Peter Gruber, b. 30 March 1980
Michael Hofer, b. 16 November 1974
Michael Kogler, b. 26 February 1987
Johann Seiberl, b. 13 March 1966
Belgium
Francis Caesemaker, b. 24 May 1967
Nicolas Gilsoul, b. 05 February 1982
Yves Peyskens, b. 11 May 1978
Cyprus
Yiannos (note spelling! - not: Ioánnis) Evripidou, b. 22 July 1972
Costas (note spelling!) Kourtellas, b. 05 October 1976
Pambos Laos, b. 10 October 1977
Angelos Loizides, b. 31 January 1983
Czech Republic / Czechoslovakia
Václav Blahna, b. 26 February 1948
Stanislav Chovanec, b. 25 September 1960
Dušan Kouřil, b. 29 September 1978
Rudolf Kouřil, b. 24 April 1958
Milan Liška, b. 06 January 1958 (June 01st is wrong, sorry!)
Roman Odložilík, b. 15 August 1970
Eduard Perski, b. 12 March 1954
Zdenĕk Pipota, b. 31 March 1953
Pavel Schovánek, b. 07 April 1948
Josef Sedláček, b. 25 March 1969
Josef Sivík, b. 05 March 1943
Pavel Šlemín, b. 1943
Radovan Švec, b. 24 March 1970
Jaromír Tarabus, b. 21 March 1977
Karel Trojan sen., b. 05 February 1948
Denmark
Tim Svanholt, b. 23 March 1965
Estonia
Indrek Lepp, b. 26 March 1972
Jaanus Murakas, b. 25 February 1968
Riho Parts, b. 20 March 1959
Finland
Tommi Luostarinen, b. 27 March 1971
Marko Salminen, b. 10 October 1978
Nils-Gustav Wiik, b. 28 October 1948
France
Nicolas Baudin, b. 09 May 1979
Francis Bondil, b. 18 November 1946
Sabrina de Castelli, b. 14 June 1973
Lionel Comole, b. 22 October 1975
Damien Daumas, b. 19 March 1984
Isabelle Garreau, b. 01 January 1971
Jean-Pierre Manzagol, b. 23 March 1946
Bernard Martin-Dondoz, b. 21 September 1954
Gilles Montigaud, b. 11 March 1969
Jean Saurel, b. 01 May 1948, died on 27 August 2011
Karine Tabone, b. 24 October 1973
Germany
Klaus Kaiser, b. 29 May 1937
Ernie Kleint, b. 06 September 1940, died on 28 September 1989
Klaus Miersch, b. 10 July 1937
Stefan Schlesack, b. 25 October 1959
Great Britain
Kevin Devine, b. 04 August 1969
Gethin Jones, b. 02 May 1970
Neil McCance, b. 28 October 1967
Greece
George (real name: Iórgos) Moschous, b. 1944
Hungary
László Bagaméri, b. 24 March 1971
László Ranga, b. 07 July 1957, died on 16 June 2001
Gábor Spitzer, b. 26 January 1977
Italy
Giorgio Bacco, b. 15 February 1988
Elisabetta Barbieri, b. 22 July 1982
Alessandro Barchiesi, b. 05 December 1957
Christian Dinale, b. 09 January 1978
Luca Fidale, b. 09 December 1973
Carlo Fontanone, b. 19 April 1972
Luca Ghegin, b. 12 May 1967
Iacopo (note spelling!) Giannecchini, b. 16 December 1965
Enrico Girardi, b. 20 March 1970
Marco Gramenzi, b. 23 May 1955
Flavio Guglielmini, b. 01 April 1972
Carlo de Luis, b. 29 March 1971
Mario Mannucci, died on 17 December 2011
Mario Marchionni, b. 03 February 1966
Federico Mazzanti, b. 09 April 1968
Massimo Perini, b. 18 February 1968
Michele Perna, b. 02 August 1977
Luigi Pisacane, b. 06 April 1966
Ilaria Riolfo, b. 26 February 1985
Latvia
Pēteris Dzirkals, b. 06 November 1977
Lebanon
Nick (full name: Nicholai) Georgiou, b. 02 February 1983
(his nationality is NOT Cyprus, Profile | Nicholai Georgiou (http://www.nicholaigeorgiou.com/profile))
Lithuania
Benediktas Vanagas, b. 16 March 1977
Luxemburg
Ronny Foxius, b. 18 July 1986
Malaysia
Gunaseelan Rajoo, b. 20 March 1974
Monaco
Vanessa Dessi, b. 04 January 1979
Netherlands
Marcel Piepers, b. 04 December 1970
Rocco (full name: Christiaan Johan) Theunissen
Erik de Wild, b. 16 August 1975
Norway
Eivind Steffensen, b. 14 November 1969
Poland
Michał Bębenek, b. 03 October 1976 (January 6th is wrong!)
Daniel Dymurski, b. 27 June 1979
Mariusz Ficoń, b. 30 October 1963
Jan Głuc, b. 06 May 1972
Michał Gołębiowski, b. 17 March 1975
Robert Hundla, b. 13 July 1978
Jacek Jerschina, b. 15 October 1964
Damian Jurczak, b. 03 April 1973
Robert Kępka, b. 25 March 1959
Krzysztof Koczur, b. 10 October 1963
Krzysztof Komornicki, b. 1931
Mariusz Kostrzak, b. 24 August 1955
Piotr Kowalski, b. 10 December 1973
Piotr Maciejewski, b. 08 July 1976
Adam Magaczewski, b. 21 May 1962
Zbigniew Maliński, b. 05 January 1955
Piotr Marx, b. 29 June 1977
Przemek Mazur, b. 23 May 1978
Andrzej Obrębowski, b. 06 May 1978
Marcin Opałka, b. 17 September 1974
Marcin Pasecki, b. 23 December 1982
Paweł Serafin, b. 06 April 1971
Krzysztof Tercjak, b. 27 September 1966
Michał Uliarczyk, b. 06 March 1977
Jerzy Wierzbołowski, b. 02 February 1952
Maciej Wilk, b. 30 January 1978
Mariusz Woźniczko, b. 02 March 1975
Portugal
Paulo Grave, b. 29 November 1963
Slovakia
Jozef Béreš sen., b. 25 November 1959
Igor Drotár, b. 04 December 1954
Henrich Kurus, b 26 February 1963
South Africa
Jan Hettema, b. 27 October 1933
Spain
Miguel Arias, b. 19 October 1975
Roberto Arias, b. 31 March 1980
Heriberto Godoy, b. 15 March 1974
Alberto Monarri, b. 02 March 1982
José Maria Ponce, b. 11 April 1955
Sweden
Anders (full name: Anders Göran) Kulläng, died on 27 February 2012
Lars-Erik Walfridsson, b. 16 January 1955
Switzerland
Roland Piquerez, b. 07 March 1955
Ukraine
Oleksandr Gorbik, b. 16 March 1970
Yuriy Shapovalov, b. 14 March 1972
Tanzania
Bert Shankland, b. 12 September 1932, died on 26 January 2012

[elvis]

Hello everybody ,

Some questioons about the belgian rally championship , the "international" one from the 90's ....

Somebody can explain me how did it worked ? what was the point system ? it's looked some coeficient existed , and drivers could scored in other country ?

I try to make the points table of this era , so i take every information.

Thanks in advance for your knowledge. ;)


Thanks for your first answers. For sure , drivers could score away from Belgium , i have found a classification of the 1989 and 1990 championship BEFORE the "Boucles de Spa" , who was the first round in the country. And a press release , preview of the "Omloop" 1996 , talked about points taked by Gregoire De Mevius in the ADAC Deutschland Rally.

Also , i found a calendar (maye 1994 or 1995 , i don't remember exactly ) with coeficient 1,1 or 1,2 for some rounds. these rally were often inclued in the European Championship : Circuit des Ardennnes , Boucles de Spa , Condroz , Ypres ....

[januszsz]

Final top 3 of ERC
I hope somebody can fill missing names:

1955 1. Werner Engel (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2.................., 3.......................
1956 1. Walter Schock (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2................, 3.......................
1957 1. Ruprecht Hopfen (D) Saab, Borgward, 2.............., 3......................
1958 1. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo, 2.........................., 3......................
1959 1. Paul Coltelloni (F) Citroën, Alfa Romeo, 2................, 3....................
and
1964 1. Tom Trana (S) Volvo, 2. Erik Carlsson (S) Saab, 3........................ (I missed it on the first wish-list)
1966 Gr 1: 1. Lillebror Nasenius (S) Opel, 2..............................., 3...........................
Gr 2: 1. Sobiesław Zasada (PL) Steyr-Puch, 2. Timo Mäkinen (FIN) BMC, 3.......................
Gr 3: 1. Günter Klass (D) Porsche, 2......................., 3................................

Thank you in advance
Janusz

[januszsz]

I still have a hope somebody can fill missing names of final top 3 of ERC...
Is Rallying Rally History Forum dying?

1955 1. Werner Engel (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2.................., 3.......................
1956 1. Walter Schock (D) Mercedes-Benz, 2................, 3.......................
1957 1. Ruprecht Hopfen (D) Saab, Borgward, 2.............., 3......................
1958 1. Gunnar Andersson (S) Volvo, 2.........................., 3......................
1959 1. Paul Coltelloni (F) Citroën, Alfa Romeo, 2................, 3....................
and
1966 Gr 1: 1. Lillebror Nasenius (S) Opel, 2..............................., 3...........................

Gr 2:
1. Sobiesław Zasada (PL) Steyr-Puch 50p., 2. Timo Mäkinen (FIN) BMC 46p, 3. Tom Trana (S) Volvo 46p
or:
1. Zasada 50, 2. Trana 46, 3. Aaltonen 42 ?

Gr 3: 1. Günter Klass (D) Porsche, 2......................., 3................................

Thank you in advance
Janusz

[cvhi]

Hello,

I search these entry list about european rally championship

CIRCUIT IRLANDE 1970 1971 1973 1974 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1989 1990 1991
SCOTTISH RALLY 1970 1971 1972 1974 1975 1976 1979 1980 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1988 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994
GALWAY 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983
DONEGAL 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979
MANX 1977 1978 1979 1981 1984 1985 1987
VAUXHALL WALES 1994
LAKES 1994

Thank you very much for your help
mlanders@orange.fr

[FAL]

As I have mentioned on here before, in the same connection, the 1974 Scottish was cancelled, I think two or three weeks before its due date. As far as I recall (I was an entrant) there was no entry list published. The official reason was that fuel supplies could not be guaranteed because of a strike by Esso tanker drivers. To this day, most believe the real reason was pressure from rally sponsor Esso, rather than any real risk of fuel shortages with all other fuel companies unaffected.
I'm sure I have posted the 72 Scottish entry list before but, if not, I can post it or send it.

Does anyone have a copy of the 1965, 66 or 67 Scottish Rally entry lists?

[Vosg Patt]

Hello all,
Can someone help for Portugal 1992
The following crews have they the start?
#18 SUNDSTROM Mikael - HONKANEN Jakke (Lancia Delta Integrale)
#28 POSTILLON Patrick - FAUCHILLE Jean François (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
#33 COUTINHO Antonio - JUNIOR Candido (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
#38 RECORDATI Giovanni - VERDELLI Marco (Lancia Delta Integrale)
#47 BEZERRA Jorge - RAMALHO Miguel (VW Polo )
#61 REININGER Stefan - PODLISKA Charlotte (Subaru Legacy RS)
Thanks you

[jrally]

Hello all,
Can someone help for Portugal 1992
The following crews have they the start?
#18 SUNDSTROM Mikael - HONKANEN Jakke (Lancia Delta Integrale)
#28 POSTILLON Patrick - FAUCHILLE Jean François (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
#33 COUTINHO Antonio - JUNIOR Candido (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
#38 RECORDATI Giovanni - VERDELLI Marco (Lancia Delta Integrale)
#47 BEZERRA Jorge - RAMALHO Miguel (VW Polo )
#61 REININGER Stefan - PODLISKA Charlotte (Subaru Legacy RS)
Thanks you

For that list only 38 and 61 didn't start !

Best regards
Jorge

[Vosg Patt]

Thanks you Jorge,
For Portugal 1992
N°ES for retirement
#18 SUNDSTROM Mikael - HONKANEN Jakke (Lancia Delta Integrale)
#28 POSTILLON Patrick - FAUCHILLE Jean François (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
#33 COUTINHO Antonio - JUNIOR Candido (Ford Sierra Cosworth 4x4)
#47 BEZERRA Jorge - RAMALHO Miguel (VW Polo )

Regards
Thierry

[kabouter]

34/Rally Del Salento-10.place copilot L.Volpi (IT)-first name: Luigi Volpi

Hello Janusz,

Are you sure about Luigi? I have as co-driver for Pezzuto in 1997 and for Pisacane in 1998 (15th overall) Luca Volpi - but I cannot find my source for that first name.

[januszsz]

Hello Janusz,

Are you sure about Luigi? I have as co-driver for Pezzuto in 1997 and for Pisacane in 1998 (15th overall) Luca Volpi - but I cannot find my source for that first name.
What can I say now. I WAS sure but at the moment I don't remember the source. I have to think and check...
Regards
Janusz

[kabouter]

On Pisacane's website it says it was Luca Volpi who co-drove him in 1998 (Ivan Pisacane Official Web Site (http://www.ivanpisacane.it/ivan.html)). I think when entering the 1997 result in the database I made the assumption that L. Volpi in 1997 would be the same co-driver as L. Volpi in 1998, but it might just as well be a Luigi Volpi, even though I cannot find another mention of him in my archives...

[yukspeed]

Hi Giorgio, Rob Pilcher & Jim Clark. Regards Yuk. www.yukspeed.com (http://www.yukspeed.com)

[yukspeed]

Someone knows the names ?

9° Scottish Rally - 1951
D????? G?????? Scott (MG)
J?????? R?????? Sidwell (MG)
J????? A????? Edgar (HRG)
W???? K????? Elliot (Bristol)
L????? Wood (Jaguar ??)
T????? L????? McDonald (Wolseley)

13° Scottish Rally - 1955
P????? S????? Hughes (DKW)
T????? J?????? McGee (Fiat 1100)
R?????? Crawford (Riley 2500)
R????? W????? Woolaway (Austin Westminster)
B????? W????? Fursdon (Renault 750)
Roy K????? N????? Clarkson (Morgan)
W????? L????? Sleigh Jr. (Jaguar XK140)
N?????? L?????? Paterson (MG TF 1500)
T????? F?????? Fisher (Triumph TR2)

26° Scottish Rally - 1970
C????? Grewer - I????? Grewer (Volvo 122 S)
W????? Taylor - K????? MacIver (Ford Escort TC 1600)
J?????? Wilson - T?????? Knox (Hillman Hunter)
N?????? Smith - B????? Doyle (Wolseley Hornet)
S????? Brown - S?????? Parker (BMC Cooper 1300)
R????? Pilcher - J????? Clark (Cord Cortina Lotus 1600)
A????? Robertson - J????? Lindsay (Saab V4)

Merci
Giorgio

Hi Giorgio, Rob Pilcher & Jim Clark. Regards Yuk. www.yukspeed.com (http://www.yukspeed.com/)

[kabouter]

A request - mainly to keep this thread from dying:

Does anyone have the official result (including retirements) of Rally Ireland 2006 (10-12 March), and a full list of retirements for Rally Ireland 2005 (15-16 October)? I must have had the result for 2006 when adding the leading results to RallyBase, but cannot find it anywhere in my archive...

[kabouter]

Forget my previous request, I finally found the results for 2005 and 2006 on my PC - I'll include them in full in RallyBase shortly.

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Hello to you all!

I am new to this great forum. I am from Sweden, and a hobby of mine is to try to research about Volvo´s in motorsport. I hope someone can help me with some things, and i also hope i can help you with somethings regarding Swedish rallies. Before this post i have read both part 2 and part 3 in the Rallying Rally History thread.

I am searching for cars, registrationnumbers, startnumber, driver and co driver.

1973

Helsinkiralli in Finland.

xxx / xxx car nr #8 Volvo 142 ABA 999
xxx / xxx car nr #16 Volvo 142
Erkki Pitkänen / xxx car nr #17 Volvo 142 ABL 400
xxx / xxx car nr #50 Volvo 142

Kesoil Ralli 15-16 September

xxx / xxx car nr # Volvo 142 ABL 400
xxx / xxx car nr # Volvo 142 ABC 980

1974 Länsirannikon Ralli 29-30 June

Timo Salonen / Seppo Harjanne # ? 3rd Volvo 142 ABA 999
Ulf Grönholm / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABA 888


1975 Mänttä 200-AJO 22-23 February

Harras Lindros / Teuvo Saartela # ? ? Volvo 142 AFD-2
Teuvo Raatikainen / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABB 666
Erkki Pitkänen / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABL 400
xxx / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABA 888


If you have more about the Volvo 142 in Finland from 1973 and on in time, please let me know. I have a number of Swedish rallies from 1968 to 2011. Most result and cars. And also the result of Rally Sweden ( Midnattssolsrallyt, Swedish Rally to the Midnightsun) from 1950 to 1999.

[kabouter]

Hello to you all!

I am new to this great forum. I am from Sweden, and a hobby of mine is to try to research about Volvo´s in motorsport. I hope someone can help me with some things, and i also hope i can help you with somethings regarding Swedish rallies. Before this post i have read both part 2 and part 3 in the Rallying Rally History thread.

Welcome to the forum! You've been busy, if you've been reading parts 2 and 3 of this thread...

I'm afraid I can't help you with these Finnish results - I only have details for 1000 Lakes and Arctic, but maybe someone else is able to help you. How detailed are your Swedish Rally results? Do you have all finishers with final times for those years?

By the way, the Rally Ireland 2005 & 2006 results are now online: RallyBase (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=rally&rallytype=Irl)
What I am not sure of is the co-driver of Gary Cooney (car #52) in 2006. Cooney shows up in the online results of the first stages of the rally, but does not appear on day 2 and is not listed in the retirement list in the official results (where also co-drivers are given). Does anyone know what happened to Cooney (was he excluded) and whether he was co-driven by Kieran Carroll or somebody else?

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Thank you @kabouter. It took a while but it was worth it!

Well, i have the top three in almost every Swedish National rally in those years. The Swedish Rally i have almost every one that finnished. But sadly only times for the National rallys. In the South Swedish Rally i have all that finnished from 1976 to 2004.

The info about the Volvos in the Arctic rallie would be great!!

[Matthewrally87]

Hi, boys!!!

Can you help me with these results about 1991-92 European Rally Championship?

1991 Boucles de Spa Top 5
1991 Niedersachsen 1°
1991 Volta do Portugal 1°
1991 Haspengow Top 5
1991 Rota do Sol 1°
1991 Gunyadin/Turkey 1°
1991 Mont Blanc-Morzine 2°-3°-4°-5°
1991 Valais 1°
1991 Valeo Top 5
1991 Condroz Top 5
1991 Var 2°-3°

1992 Mont Blanc-Morzine 2°-3°-4°-5°
1992 Condroz 2°-3°
1992 Var 2°-3°

Thanks in advance

[jrally]

Hello to you all!

I am new to this great forum. I am from Sweden, and a hobby of mine is to try to research about Volvo´s in motorsport. I hope someone can help me with some things, and i also hope i can help you with somethings regarding Swedish rallies. Before this post i have read both part 2 and part 3 in the Rallying Rally History thread.

I am searching for cars, registrationnumbers, startnumber, driver and co driver.

1973

Helsinkiralli in Finland.

xxx / xxx car nr #8 Volvo 142 ABA 999
xxx / xxx car nr #16 Volvo 142
Erkki Pitkänen / xxx car nr #17 Volvo 142 ABL 400
xxx / xxx car nr #50 Volvo 142

Kesoil Ralli 15-16 September

xxx / xxx car nr # Volvo 142 ABL 400
xxx / xxx car nr # Volvo 142 ABC 980

1974 Länsirannikon Ralli 29-30 June

Timo Salonen / Seppo Harjanne # ? 3rd Volvo 142 ABA 999
Ulf Grönholm / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABA 888


1975 Mänttä 200-AJO 22-23 February

Harras Lindros / Teuvo Saartela # ? ? Volvo 142 AFD-2
Teuvo Raatikainen / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABB 666
Erkki Pitkänen / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABL 400
xxx / xxx # ? ? Volvo 142 ABA 888


If you have more about the Volvo 142 in Finland from 1973 and on in time, please let me know. I have a number of Swedish rallies from 1968 to 2011. Most result and cars. And also the result of Rally Sweden ( Midnattssolsrallyt, Swedish Rally to the Midnightsun) from 1950 to 1999.

Hello,
Here what I have :

Helskinki Rally 1973 (some differences)
6-Markku Alen-Juhani Toivonen (9º)
11-Hannu Mikkola-Atso Aho (2º)
14-Arto Huhtasalo-Jukka Pietila (ret.)
15-Eero Soutulahti-Risto Anttila (5º)
16-Timo Karsikko-Simo Rannisto (ret)
17-Erkki Pitkanen-Juhani Paalama (8º)

Kesoil Ralli
6-Markku Alen-Juhani Toivonen (ret.)
8-Seppo Utriainen-Risto Heinonen (13º)
10-Arto Huhtasalo-Jukka Piettila (ret.)

1974 - Lansirannikon
3 - Ulf Gronholm- Bo-Henrik Langstrom (ret)
12-Erkki Pitkanen-Juhani Paalama (6º)
13-Arto Huhtasalo-John Worsoe (22º)
32-Eva Heinonen-Satu Valtaharju (18º)

Timo Salonen entered in a Mazda 1300 (9th overall)

That's what I have
Hope it helps
Best regards
Jorge

[jrally]

Could someone help me with these names ?

Golden Tulip 2002
P??? van Adel-J??? de Kluijven (Opel Astra Gsi) 28th
Harry van den Meer-O???? Kurmas

Budapest 2001
Magyari Beck-???? Janusch

Lana 2001
Davide Crovella-S???? Zanellatti
Daniele Caratto-M??? Gardini
Fabrizio Rolando-G??? Albanese
Andrea Vigna-L??? Chivetto

Roumania 2001
Mihai Bercioui-R??? Lipan
(does someone have one entry list of this event that could share?)

Lana 2000
Massimiliano Pirchio-L??? Chivetto
Massimo Crestani-P??? Lavino-Zona
Claudio Bisoglio-M??? Garella
Enrico Lavino Zona-??? Giordani
Federico Mo-???? Martinetti

Thanks in advance
Best regards
Jorge

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Hello,
Here what I have :

Helskinki Rally 1973 (some differences)
6-Markku Alen-Juhani Toivonen (9º)
11-Hannu Mikkola-Atso Aho (2º)
14-Arto Huhtasalo-Jukka Pietila (ret.)
15-Eero Soutulahti-Risto Anttila (5º)
16-Timo Karsikko-Simo Rannisto (ret)
17-Erkki Pitkanen-Juhani Paalama (8º)

Kesoil Ralli
6-Markku Alen-Juhani Toivonen (ret.)
8-Seppo Utriainen-Risto Heinonen (13º)
10-Arto Huhtasalo-Jukka Piettila (ret.)

1974 - Lansirannikon
3 - Ulf Gronholm- Bo-Henrik Langstrom (ret)
12-Erkki Pitkanen-Juhani Paalama (6º)
13-Arto Huhtasalo-John Worsoe (22º)
32-Eva Heinonen-Satu Valtaharju (18º)

Timo Salonen entered in a Mazda 1300 (9th overall)

That's what I have
Hope it helps
Best regards
Jorge



Thank you, it helps me very much!!

The first rally for Timo Salonen in the Volvo 142, was in the 1974 Kesoil Ralli in September. I looked at the wrong rally.

Do you know who was in car nr: 61 in the 1978 Hankiralli??
I have a pic on the Volvo 142 with reg nr: ABC 980, from that rally.
But no names.

[jrally]

Thank you, it helps me very much!!

The first rally for Timo Salonen in the Volvo 142, was in the 1974 Kesoil Ralli in September. I looked at the wrong rally.

Do you know who was in car nr: 61 in the 1978 Hankiralli??
I have a pic on the Volvo 142 with reg nr: ABC 980, from that rally.
But no names.

Reijo Oksanen-Juhani Tamminen. They finnished 29th overall

Best regards
Jorge

[jrally]

Kesoil 1974

6 - Erkki Pitkanen-Juha Piironen (8º)
9 - Timo Salonen-Seppo Harjanne (10º)
20-Bjorn Johansson-Hans Othberg (S) (11º)
44-Eva Heinonen-Seija Saaristo (28º)

regards
Jorge

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Kesoil 1974

6 - Erkki Pitkanen-Juha Piironen (8º)
9 - Timo Salonen-Seppo Harjanne (10º)
20-Bjorn Johansson-Hans Othberg (S) (11º)
44-Eva Heinonen-Seija Saaristo (28º)

regards
Jorge


Thank you!! Great help.

[kabouter]

Could someone help me with these names ?

Golden Tulip 2002
P??? van Adel-J??? de Kluijven (Opel Astra Gsi) 28th
Harry van den Meer-O???? Kurmas

Peter van Adel - Jacco de Kluijver
Oscar Durmas

[kabouter]

Could someone help me with these names ?

Budapest 2001
Magyari Beck-???? Janusch



Full name is Szabolc Magyari Beck. Co-driver might be Péter Janusch who drove a few national rallies in 2000, but that's just a guess.

By the way, the correct driver name for Golden Tulip 2002 is Harry van der Meer (http://members.tele2.nl/wingerden8/index2.html) and I made an error with the co-driver, it's Osman Durmus.

[jrally]

Thank You very much, Tjeerd !

best regards
Jorge

[kabouter]

As some people may have noticed, a few weeks ago I started working on RallyBase again after a long period of inactivity. And now finally ERC and IRC results for 2008 are online (Matt, if you are reading this: thank you for your work and apologies for the delay!). Because it is a lot of information added to the database in a short period, there are bound to be some mistakes. As always, if you spot anything, please let me know either by e-mail (to be found on the RallyBase website) or through the forum.

[Josti]

Good to see you active again!

Hope you can expand your European Championship database prior to 1983 someday, that was a nice process.

[kabouter]

Thanks Josti. And continuing with the ERC results is something I wanted to do, so today I started work on 1982 :)

[januszsz]

Hi Kabouter,
Nice to see you at work again.
Here you have missing names for Zlatni'86:
28th Nikolay/Nikolay
30th Yordan/Georgi
32nd /Todor
33rd Emil/Ivan
Regards
Janusz

[kabouter]

Thank you for the extra information, Janusz. The first names are now added to the database. That makes two people named Nikolay Kolev and three named Nikolay Nikolov in my database - those Bulgarian results can easily become a bit confusing...

[januszsz]

Hi Kabouter,
Collecting such information is always very confusing...
I checked also non finisher and here is result:
No 41 Yotzo / Angel
No 42 I have a different co-driver: Viktor Prostov and I don't know the first name of certain Momchev
No 57 Hriskosko / Ilia
No 90 Belcho / Kresen

Regards
Janusz

[kabouter]

Hi Kabouter,
No 42 I have a different co-driver: Viktor Prostov and I don't know the first name of certain Momchev


Thank you for those first names, Janusz. In the entry list there is Viktor Prostov. However in the results for SS1 (as can be found here: [url=http://history.rally-club.bg/storage/v/rally/zlatni/1986/SS1_2.jpg.html]Ð*езултати от СЕ1, Ñ

[januszsz]

[quote="kabouter"]Thank you for those first names, Janusz. In the entry list there is Viktor Prostov. However in the results for SS1 (as can be found here: [url=http://history.rally-club.bg/storage/v/rally/zlatni/1986/SS1_2.jpg.html]Ð*езултати от СЕ1, Ñ

[kabouter]

Don't you think it can be Nikolay Monchev? (mind spelling)

Now that you mention that, it looks pretty obvious it must be him. I've changed it.

Also Zlatni 1982 which you sent me is online now: RallyBase (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=4404)
Thank you very much for that, Janusz!

I think the co-driver of Rena Blome is Brigitte Johann, who was also her co-driver in the 1982 Rallye Deutschland. Based on the starting numbers and the usual way of numbering in Rally Zlatni in that period with non-priority drivers grouped together by car Class, I have made assumptions about the cars you weren't sure about in your result. It is just a guess, but one I am pretty confident about. Of course finding an official result including all the classes would be best. So if there are any Bulgarians with official Zlatni 1982 results reading this...

Likewise I'd also be interested to know about any retirements from this rally (or from any other Rally Zlatni in the 1980s except for 1986).

[kabouter]

Looking for a list of winners of the Peace & Friendship Cup I couldn't find any on the Internet (perhaps there is one available, but only in a language that my Google skills cannot turn up). So from the World Rallying annuals I came up with the following list for the years 1978-1989. Janusz (or anybody else), can you confirm or correct this list, and do you have additions before 1978? Was 1989 the last year of the Cup?

Peace & Friendship Cup winners

1989 Václav Arazim (Tch) Škoda 130L
1988 Pavel Sibera (Tch) Škoda 130LR
1987 Pavel Sibera (Tch) Škoda 130LR
1986 Vallo Soots (Urs) Lada 2105 VFTS
1985 Svatopluk Kvaizar (Tch) Škoda 130LR
1984 Andrzej Koper (Pol) Renault 5 Alpine
1983 Svatopluk Kvaizar (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1982 Vello Õunpuu (Urs) Lada 1600
1981 Jan Trajbold (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1980 Václav Blahna (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1979 Jan Trajbold (Tch) Škoda 130RS
1978 Jiří Šedivý (Tch) Škoda 130RS

[jrally]

I have a reference that Ingvar Carlsson participated in the Swedish Rally 1979 in a BMW 320i.

However I was never able to have sure if he participates or not. Martin Holmes never puts this participation on their books but it his referred in the book of Jean Paul Renvoizé where he retired with transmission problems.
Also, Holmes says that there was a national competition. Did he participated in that category ?

Anyone could help me with this mistery ? If he participated what start number did he had ?

Also about Ingvar Carlsson does anyone knows what was the reason of his retirement in 1000 Lakes 1983 ?

And to finnish does anyone knows what was his reg plate in 1977 and in Acropolis 1980 ?

Thank You in advance
Best regards
Jorge

[januszsz]

Hi Jorge,
I have Ingvar Carlsson with number 17 and transmission as a reason of his retirement. No info on category he did the rally (national or international) and I don't have info on his co-driver in that rally. Do you know that?
Regards
Janusz

[jrally]

Thank You, Janusz !

I have Sven-Roine Hasselberg has his co-driver and number 17 is free !

Even the car (BMW 320) and co-driver are in doubt ! So, if someones know more ...

Regards
Jorge

[kabouter]

Janusz has sent me a list of all winning drivers of the Peace & Friendship Cup since 1973 - online now:
RallyBase - Peace & Friendship Cup Champions (http://rallybase.nl/index.php?type=championlist&subchamptype=pfc)

[januszsz]

Are you sure Jorge that Holmes mentioned on Carlsson in national category in 1979? In 1978 Ingvar Carlsson did Swedish Rally with BMW 320 also with Hasselberg and he had number 117 - there were 112 international starters, so probably it was a national category. Anybody can solve that problem?
Regards
Janusz

[jrally]

No, Janusz ! I didn't say that Holmes said that ! As I don't find him (Carlsson) in any entry list or any mention in driver's statistics that Holmes usually do and I saw that in the book of Renvoizé Carlsson appears as having participated and retired with transmission problems I try to look for one explanation. And one of possible explanations was that Carlsson could have participated only in the national category. Just one possibility ....
Where have You found that number 17 ?

Regards
Jorge

[januszsz]

Sorry for misunderstanding about M. Holmes, Jorge. I checked a source of that No17. I got a list from a certain Christophe. It was not complete but there was about 100 crews on it. As I got some other list from that source, too and they were reliable I have no reason to blame it.
Regards
Janusz

[jrally]

Ok, Janusz !

17 it is !

Thanks
Jorge

[jrally]

And what about the reason of retirement of Carlsson in 1000 Lakes 1983 ? Does anyone knows ?

Thanks in advance
Best regards
Jorge

[M.Carlo]

Peace & Friendship Cup:
1972 1. Egon Culmbacher (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
2.-10. ???
1973 1. Jordan Toplodolski (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
2. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Polski Fiat 125p
3. Egon Culmbacher (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
4. Dorin Motoc (RO) Renault 12 Gordini
5. Attila Ferjancz (H) Renault 12 Gordini
6. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
7. ?
8. ?
9. Vladimir Bubnov (SU) Moskvich 412
10. ?
1974 1. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Polski Fiat 125p
2. Jordan Toplodolski (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
3. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini
4.-10- ???
1975 1. Blazej Krupa (PL) Renault 17 Gordini (150)
2. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini (144)
3. Andrzej Jaroszewicz (PL) Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye (124)
4. Statis Brundza (SU) Moskvich 412 (80)
5. Anatolij Brum (SU) Moskvich 412 (78)
6. Kolio Czubrikov (BG) Renault 12 Gordini (60)
7. Jakov Agishev (SU) Moskvich 412 (59)
8. Attila Ferjancz (H) Alpine-Renault A110 (55)
9. Vlastimil Havel (CS) Škoda 120 S Rallye (48)
10. ?
1976 1. Ilja Czubrikov (BG) Renault 17 Gordini (90)
1. Blazej Krupa (PL) Renault 17 Gordini (90)
3. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS (89)
4. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye (84)
5. Andrzej Jaroszewicz (PL) Fiat 124 Abarth Rallye (?)
6.-10. ???
1977 1. Václav Blahna (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. Georgi Petrov (BG) Vaz 21011
3. Leo Pavlík (CS) Škoda 130 RS
4. ?
5. Jakov Agishev (SU) Moskvich 2140 SL
6. Vlastimil Havel (CS) Škoda 130 RS
7.-8. ???
9. Sergej Vukovich (SU) Vaz 21011
10. ???
1978 1. Jiří Šedivý (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. ???
3. Antonín Císař (CS) Škoda 130 RS
4.-10. ???
1979 1. Jan Trajbold (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. Bogdan Wozowicz (PL) Vaz 21011
3. Georgi Petrov (BG) Vaz 21011
4.-6. ???
7. Václav Pech (CS) Škoda 130 RS
8.-10. ???
1980 1. Václav Blahna (CS) Škoda 130 RS
2. Jiří Šedivý (CS) Škoda 130 RS
3. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS
4. Andrzej Radecki (PL) Polski Fiat 125p
5. Vello Yunpuu (SU) Vaz 21011
6. Nikolaj Bolshih (SU) Vaz 21011
7.-10. ???
1981 1. Jan Trajbold (CS) Škoda 130 RS (180)
2. Vello Yunpuu (SU) Vaz 21011 (179)
3. Attila Ferjancz (H) Renault 5 Turbo (165)
4. Maciej Stawowiak (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (164)
5. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS (150)
6. Georgi Petrov (BG) Vaz 21011 (142)
7. Nikolaj Bolshih (SU) Vaz 21011 (121)
8.-10. ???
1982 1. Vello Yunpuu (SU) Vaz 21011
2. Georgi Petrov (BG) Renault 5 Alpine
3. Tomasz Ciecierzynski (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO
4. Stoyan Kolev (BG) Renault 5 Alpine
5. Leo Pavlík (CS) Renault 5 Alpine
6. Zdeněk Pipota (CS) Škoda 130 RS
7.-10. ???
1983 1. Svatopluk Kvaizar (CS) Škoda 130 RS (230)
2. Bublewicz Marian (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (204)
3. Soots Vallo (SU) Vaz 21011 (196)
4. Nedialkov Todor (BG) Vaz 21011 (153)
5. Tammeka Joel (SU) Vaz 21011 (140)
6. Polak Adam (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (138)
7.-10. ???
1984 1. Andrzej Koper (PL) Renault 5 Alpine
2. Christov Slavczo (BG) Vaz 2105 VFTS
3. Pipota Zdeněk (CS) Škoda 120 LS
4. Trajbold Jan (CS) Škoda 120 LS
5.-10. ???
1985 1. Kvaizar Svatopluk (CS) Škoda 130 LR
2.-10. ???
1986 1. Soots Vallo (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS (111)
2. Tumaljavichus Eugenius (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS (89)
3. Janeba Pavel (CS) Škoda 130 LR (89)
4. Trajbold Jan (CS) Škoda 130 LR (84)
5. Bublewicz Marian (PL) Polonez 2000 FSO (74)
6.-10. ???
1987 1. Sibera Pavel (CS) Škoda 130 LR
2.-10. ???
1988 1. Sibera Pavel (CS) Škoda 130 LR
2. Tammeka Joel (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
3. Raissar Ilmar (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
4. Bolshih Nikolaj (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
5. Pipota Zdeněk (CS) Škoda 130 LR
6. Blahna Václav (CS) Vaz 2105 VFTS
7. Trajbold Jan (CS) Škoda 130 LR
8. Tumaljavichus Eugenius (SU) Vaz 2105 VFTS
9. Krügel Klaus-Dieter (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
10. Strauch Stefan (DDR) Wartburg 353 W
1989 1. Arazim Václav (CS) Škoda 130 L
2.-10. ???

[D-Type]

I thought the "Peace and Frienship Cup" was a race meeting open to entrants from Warsaw Pact countries only. Was there also a "Peace and Frienship Cup" rally?

[Volvo in Motorsport]

I have a reference that Ingvar Carlsson participated in the Swedish Rally 1979 in a BMW 320i.

However I was never able to have sure if he participates or not. Martin Holmes never puts this participation on their books but it his referred in the book of Jean Paul Renvoizé where he retired with transmission problems.
Also, Holmes says that there was a national competition. Did he participated in that category ?

Anyone could help me with this mistery ? If he participated what start number did he had ?

Also about Ingvar Carlsson does anyone knows what was the reason of his retirement in 1000 Lakes 1983 ?

And to finnish does anyone knows what was his reg plate in 1977 and in Acropolis 1980 ?

Thank You in advance
Best regards
Jorge


Hello Jorge!

Ingvar Carlsson and his Co driver Roine Hasselberg, drove in the National class in the 1979 Swedish Rally. The class was called: Special.
And he retired early in the rally, dont know why or when.
In the yearbook Årets Bilsport from 1979, he finnished 4th overall in the Swedish Championship, class: Special. With his BMW 320.

The reg number on Carlsson´s BMW in 1977 was: GXO 297.

Regards: Volvo in Motorsport

[kabouter]

I thought the "Peace and Frienship Cup" was a race meeting open to entrants from Warsaw Pact countries only. Was there also a "Peace and Frienship Cup" rally?
Yes, there was. To quote from an e-mail Janusz sent me on the subject (I hope you don't mind, Janusz): "It was held from 1967 but initially just as a national teams' competition. I never found rules for that early period and the only final result I know is that in 1967 Cup winner was DDR team and runner up was team of Poland. Since 1973 it was a cup for drivers as well as for national teams. It was restricted for citizens of Poland, Soviet Union, Bulgaria, Hungary, Chechoslovakia, Romania and DDR."

From the post by M.Carlo above, it seems there was an individual champion in 1972 as well. M.Carlo, can I ask you what your source is for that title?

[D-Type]

Thanks

[M.Carlo]

Source, that I do not know, maybe internet, maybe books, maybe it is just an unofficial winner among drivers. Sorry

[jrally]

Hello Jorge!

Ingvar Carlsson and his Co driver Roine Hasselberg, drove in the National class in the 1979 Swedish Rally. The class was called: Special.
And he retired early in the rally, dont know why or when.
In the yearbook Årets Bilsport from 1979, he finnished 4th overall in the Swedish Championship, class: Special. With his BMW 320.

The reg number on Carlsson´s BMW in 1977 was: GXO 297.

Regards: Volvo in Motorsport

Thank You very much for your help, Volvo in Motorsport!

Best regards
Jorge

[D-Type]

Can I briefly interrupt the flow of statistical information. In the 50's and 60's the Safari scrutineers used a Tapley Meter to measure brake efficiency. Does anybody know if this device was used on other rallies?

My reason for asking is that Pat Moss lost 2nd place in the 1962 Safari because she collected a penalty for lack of brakes. She claimed she was unfamiliar with the test and messed it up. I've always wondered whether this was true or was it an early example of 'spin'.

[FAL]

Can I briefly interrupt the flow of statistical information. In the 50's and 60's the Safari scrutineers used a Tapley Meter to measure brake efficiency. Does anybody know if this device was used on other rallies?

My reason for asking is that Pat Moss lost 2nd place in the 1962 Safari because she collected a penalty for lack of brakes. She claimed she was unfamiliar with the test and messed it up. I've always wondered whether this was true or was it an early example of 'spin'.

What Stuart Turner wrote in his Pat Moss biography (Harnessing Horsepower) rings true. The Tapley "Performance Meter" (fitted to quite a few UK cars in the 50s as an aftermarket accessory, so probably on some rally cars but more the sort of thing that would have been fitted by competitors trying to win the Monte "Concourse" award, which seemed to score points for having all manner of gadgets of limited usefulness) was a kind of "G meter" (it was not connected to anything on the car). It therefore measured the sharpest "jerk" rather than overall braking efficiency. Not sure what the Saab braking technique was with the freewheel but Turner also writes that Erik Carlsson learnt from Pat's experience of the test and did it better.
I probably sent the gauge off the clock when I drove my father's Riley RMB into the end wall of the garage when many years below the official driving age...

[M.Carlo]

Peace and Frienship Cup:
It was held as rally for individual drivers from 1972 (winner E. Culmbacher). Also it was held as formula race (from 1963), kart race (1966), touring car race (1973), motorcycle race (1978), enduro (1978), speedway (1979), trial (1983), autocross (1984) and motocross (1985).
Source: czech book "Století rychlosti"

[kabouter]

Peace and Frienship Cup:
It was held as rally for individual drivers from 1972 (winner E. Culmbacher). Also it was held as formula race (from 1963), kart race (1966), touring car race (1973), motorcycle race (1978), enduro (1978), speedway (1979), trial (1983), autocross (1984) and motocross (1985).
Source: czech book "Století rychlosti"
Thank you for looking that up. I'll add Egon Culmbacher to the list of champions.

[cvhi]

Hello,

I search entry list about Algarve Rallye 1977, 1978, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996,
Rota Do Sol 1991, 1992 , 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004
San Miguel 1992
Açores 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005
Casino Povao 2004, 2005
Centro Portugal 2005

many thanks for your help

[email:2i9d2x5e]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:2i9d2x5e]

[Sardalense]

I need help about some Belgian drivers/co-drivers that entered a Portuguese rally in 1987:

P. de Potter/F. Bruneau
Y. Vannevel/Paul Fraikin
D. Desmedt/Sandron Pierre
J. M. Fastenaekels/Demesmaeker
J. M. Fenfe/A. Delannoy
L. Derboven/E. Vanderzanden
P. Jacot/Marc Laval
J. Struycken/G. Vrijens
Patrick Caen/L. Pollet

Any idea about the first name of all this drivers and codrivers?

Thanks in advance!

[jrally]

I need help about some Belgian drivers/co-drivers that entered a Portuguese rally in 1987:

P. de Potter/F. Bruneau
Y. Vannevel/Paul Fraikin
D. Desmedt/Sandron Pierre
J. M. Fastenaekels/Demesmaeker
J. M. Fenfe/A. Delannoy
L. Derboven/E. Vanderzanden
P. Jacot/Marc Laval
J. Struycken/G. Vrijens
Patrick Caen/L. Pollet

Any idea about the first name of all this drivers and codrivers?

Thanks in advance!

Aqui estão os que sei, João !

Peter de Potter/François Xavier Bruneau
Yves Vannevel/Paul Fraikin
Daniel Desmedt/Pierre Sandron
Jean Marie Fastenaekels/Nadine Demesmaeker
Jean Marc de Fenfe/André Delannoy
Luc Derboven/Eddie Vanderzanden
Patrick Jacot/Marc Laval
J. Struycken/G. Vrijens
Patrick Caen/Lorraine Pollet

Um abraço
Jorge

[D-Type]

No objections to greetings in Portuguese. But you really should provide an English translation.

I accept that in this case the meaning is obvious so there's no real need, but the principle is the same.

[Vosg Patt]

Hello,

Sweden 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#9 Lars Carlsson
#16 Lasse Henfors
#17 Bjorn Johansson
#45 Gunnar Pettersson
#64 Per Inge Walfridsson
#69 Bengt Thorsell
#85 Lars Erik Walfridsson

Safari 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#30 Frank Tundo
#44 Jahant Shah

New Zealand 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#15 Paddy Davidson
#41 Ken Adamson
#60 Mark Jennings

RAC Rally 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#61 Harald Demuth
#66 Soren Nilsson
#80 Wolfgang Hauck
#99 Ola Stromberg
#107 Kurt Gottlicher
#123 Tom Brise
#150 Alain Beauchef

Thanks You
Regards

[jrally]

No objections to greetings in Portuguese. But you really should provide an English translation.

I accept that in this case the meaning is obvious so there's no real need, but the principle is the same.

Sorry ! In the future, only in english !

Regards
Jorge

[jrally]

Hello,

Sweden 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#9 Lars Carlsson Yes
#16 Lasse Henfors Yes
#17 Bjorn Johansson don't know
#45 Gunnar Pettersson don't know
#64 Per Inge Walfridsson Yes, number 39
#69 Bengt Thorsell don't know
#85 Lars Erik Walfridsson don't know

Safari 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#30 Frank Tundo don't know
#44 Jahant Shah don't know

New Zealand 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#15 Paddy Davidson yes
#41 Ken Adamson yes
#60 Mark Jennings yes

RAC Rally 1977
Have they participate in the race?
#61 Harald Demuth don't know
#66 Soren Nilsson don't know
#80 Wolfgang Hauck don't know
#99 Ola Stromberg yes
#107 Kurt Gottlicher don't know
#123 Tom Brise don't know (Tim not Tom)
#150 Alain Beauchef yes

Thanks You
Regards

That's what I could find

Regards
Jorge

[januszsz]

Some questions on RAC'77.
No42 Pat Ryan drove Triumph Dolomite Sprint or Triumph TR7?
No27 Leif Asterhag drove Toyota Corolla 1600 or Tpylota Celica GT?
missing co-drivers:
No64 David Grainger / ............
No80 Wolfgang Hauck / ...................
No86 Habs Gustavsson / .................
No148 Georges Blain / .................
No156 Christer Olofsson / ................
No179 Wenche Knudtzen / ....................

Warm regards
Janusz

[januszsz]

... and one more missing co-driver (RAC'77)
No99 Ola Stromberg / ...............

Regards
Janusz - "To fast fingers"

[Vosg Patt]

That's what I could find

Regards
Jorge

Thanks Jorge,

Others Questions
Year 1982

Safari
Have they participate in the race?
#24 Yasuhiro Iwase

Acropolis
Have they participate in the race?
#23 Vahan Terzian
#120 Wolfgang Krugel
#122 Karl Dieter Krugel

New Zealand
Have they participate in the race?
#33 Peter Farrell
#37 Graeme De Pina

San Remo
Have they participate in the race?
#74 Christian Dorche

Ivory Coast
Have they participate in the race?
#16 Pierre Louis Moreau

Regards
Thierry

[jrally]

Some questions on RAC'77.
No42 Pat Ryan drove Triumph Dolomite Sprint or Triumph TR7?
No27 Leif Asterhag drove Toyota Corolla 1600 or Tpylota Celica GT?
missing co-drivers:
No64 David Grainger / ............
No80 Wolfgang Hauck / ...................
No86 Habs Gustavsson / .................
No148 Georges Blain / .................
No156 Christer Olofsson / ................
No179 Wenche Knudtzen / ....................

Warm regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz !
Pat Ryan drove a TR7 and Asterhag a Corolla 1600
Hans Gustavsson with David Booth
Georges Blain with Bill Barlow
Christer Olofsson with Sven Hogberg
Wenche Knudtzen with Kirsten Sorvig
Ola Stromberg with Per Carlsson

Grainger and Hauck, I don't know !

Best regards
Jorge

[jrally]

Thanks Jorge,

Others Questions
Year 1982

Safari
Have they participate in the race?
#24 Yasuhiro Iwase Yes

Acropolis
Have they participate in the race?
#23 Vahan Terzian don't know
#120 Wolfgang Krugel don't know
#122 Karl Dieter Krugel don't know

New Zealand
Have they participate in the race?
#33 Peter Farrell Yes
#37 Graeme De Pina don't know

San Remo
Have they participate in the race?
#74 Christian Dorche don't know

Ivory Coast
Have they participate in the race?
#16 Pierre Louis Moreau don't know

Regards
Thierry

Regards
Jorge

[Volvo in Motorsport]

That's what I could find

Regards
Jorge



Hello. This is what i can help you with.
Sweden 1977

#17 Bjorn Johansson - Yes, National class
#45 Gunnar Pettersson - Yes, National class
#64 Per Inge Walfridsson - Yes, National class
#69 Bengt Thorsell - Yes, National class
#85 Lars Erik Walfridsson - Yes, National class

Regards: Volvo in Motorsport

[jrally]

One question, Volvo in Motorsport !

Could You clarify one thing, please ?
Mainly in the 70's there was allways a national class or a Special class. Did they made all the route like the others ? Did they classified in the end or there was a special classification ?
I ask that because sometimes they are mixed in the overall classification, sometimes not ...

Please, could You clarify this situation ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Jorge

[Volvo in Motorsport]

One question, Volvo in Motorsport !

Could You clarify one thing, please ?
Mainly in the 70's there was allways a national class or a Special class. Did they made all the route like the others ? Did they classified in the end or there was a special classification ?
I ask that because sometimes they are mixed in the overall classification, sometimes not ...

Please, could You clarify this situation ?
Thanks in advance
Best regards
Jorge

The National classes in Sweden had there own classification. But some classes was both National and International. And there were also a overall classification of all classes in the rally. In later years the National classes dont drive the entire Swedish Rally, only one day. Saturday for example, but i am not sure when they started doing that. Perhaps i can figure that out in the book about the rally.


Here are the Swedish National classes in the 1970´s.

1966
There were 4 classes.
SM in T. Group 1 and Group 2 cars.
SM in Rally. Group 1 and Group 2 cars.

1973
SM in Rally. Gr 1 and Gr 2.

1974
Standard: A class and Standard: B class
Class: Special. (Old Gr 2)

1982
Standard: B, Group A and Special.

1983
Gr A, International class. Standard: B and National class (National class is the former Gr 2 and class: Special)
In 1999 the Nationel class changes to Group H.


Best regards: Volvo in Motorsport.

[januszsz]

Hi Janusz !
Pat Ryan drove a TR7 and Asterhag a Corolla 1600
Hans Gustavsson with David Booth
Georges Blain with Bill Barlow
Christer Olofsson with Sven Hogberg
Wenche Knudtzen with Kirsten Sorvig
Ola Stromberg with Per Carlsson

Grainger and Hauck, I don't know !

Best regards
Jorge
Thank you Jorge!
Some more questions on missing co-drivers.
Swedish'73
No58 Leif Nilsson/...........
No65 Wnche Knudtzen/...............
No80 Yakov Lukyanov/..........
No81 Gennadiy Ivanov/.............
Akropolis'73
No20 Johnny Pesmazoglou/............
No35 Frederic Donner/..............
No37 Iorgos Raptopoulos/.............
No57 N......... Panagiotopoulos/.....................
No60 Aris Alexandropoulos/.................
No63 Iorgos Diamantopoulos/..............
No75 Eleftherios Makridakis/................
No78 Christos Sarantopoulos/..............
No89 St.... Psillas/......................
No92 N......... Meikas/....................
No96 "Rother" (what nationality?)/................
No103 Lorenzo Merlone/.............
Sanremo'73
No22 Tony Carello/...............
No53 Lorenzo Merlone/..............
No79 ............Marrenzano/................
RAC'73
No34 Ingvar Carlsson/................
No56 Tony Drummond/................
No96 Malcolm Harvey Ross/..................
No106 Laurie Richards.............

and some missing first names
Portugal'73
No48 P....... Petersen/J........ Mogens
No84 / R............... Cooke
No95 G......... Toussaint
Akropolis'73
No18 / B........... Brucklecher
No30 ............. .............../........... ............ Opel Ascona

Thank you in advance
Janusz

[Vosg Patt]

Regards
Jorge

Very fantstic Jorge,

Year 1975
Safari
Have they participate in the race?
#32 Yoshio Iwa****a
#46 Keith Billows

Acropolis
Have they participate in the race?
#8 Jean François Piot
#63 Horst Niebergall
#65 Egon Culmbacher
#67 Roland Weitz

Rac Rally
Have they participate in the race?
#37 Georg Fischer
#71 Christopher Wathen
#75 Roger Eriksson
#104 Tapio Vanhala
#113 Franz Wittmann
#122 Hans Dieter Reihm
#180 Tim Nash

Regards
Thierry

[Sardalense]

Aqui estão os que sei, João !

Peter de Potter/François Xavier Bruneau
Yves Vannevel/Paul Fraikin
Daniel Desmedt/Pierre Sandron
Jean Marie Fastenaekels/Nadine Demesmaeker
Jean Marc de Fenfe/André Delannoy
Luc Derboven/Eddie Vanderzanden
Patrick Jacot/Marc Laval
J. Struycken/G. Vrijens
Patrick Caen/Lorraine Pollet

Um abraço
Jorge

Thank you!

[Vosg Patt]

... and one more missing co-driver (RAC'77)
No99 Ola Stromberg / ...............

Regards
Janusz - "To fast fingers"

Hi Janusz?

Ola Stromberg - Dave Whittock

[CWJ]

Others Questions
Year 1982

Acropolis

Have they participate in the race?

#120 Klaus ! Dieter Krügel - dont know

#122 Wolfgang Krügel / Dieter Schenk - sure

# xxx Dieter Heimbürger / Roland Weitz - sure



wartburgcars.de - 80er Jahre (http://www.wartburgcars.de/index.php?id=58)

regards

[januszsz]

Hi Janusz?

Ola Stromberg - Dave Whittock
Jorge says it was Per Carlsson (see post number 1908).
Anyway thank you
and regards
Janusz

[FAL]

RAC 73 - Co-drivers
Malcolm Harvey-Ross is listed with Colin Newman as co-driver in the only entry list I have.
Both were from the same area and in the same car club. Car is listed as a 911 but I think he had a 240Z. I can confirm the hotel they stayed at in York and I know the name of one of the service crew but I can't absolutely confirm the co-driver!

RAC77
Of the remaining "Unknowns" listed, none seem to be on the finishers list but I don't have retirements list.

[Vosg Patt]

Jorge says it was Per Carlsson (see post number 1908).
Anyway thank you
and regards
Janusz




I apply directly to Ola Stromberg

[Juha_Koo]

Does anyone have Rally Finland 2000 route map and/or guide? For some reason mine is lost.

[cvhi]

Hello,

I search entry list since a long time about BARUM RALLY (TCH) : 90 (15/18 Juin), 91 (14/16 Juin), 92 (12/14 Juin), 93 (4/6 Juin), 94 (19/21 Aout), 96 (9/10 Aout), and SKODA (TCH) : 77 (1/2 Juillet), 82 (9/11 Juil), 83 (16/17 Juil), 84 (14/15 Juil), 85 (18/20 Juil), BOHEMIA : 86 (12/13 Juil), 88 (30/2 Juil), 90 (13/14 Juil), 91 (12/14 Juil), 93 (9/10 Juil), 94 (14/17 Juil), 95 (13/16 Juil), 96 (5/6 Juil), 97 (10/11 Juil), 98 (10/11 Juil), 99 (9/10 Juil).

If someone can help me. Many thanks
[email:3nbo8jqd]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:3nbo8jqd]

[januszsz]

Hi Juha, I have an Official Programme from that rally but it contains 68 pages and a map. There is also a stage info. What do you like to get?
Regards
Janusz

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Hello!

In the 1998 Hunsrück Rallye, Mats Karlsson won his class in a Volvo 940. Can anyone help me with his Startnumber. And also the name of his Co driver.

Regards: Volvo in Motorsport

[tolis]

Hello! I am searching the entry lists and final results of Rally Cyprus 2007 and 2008. I hope someone can help me!
Thanks!
My email is [email:22ekx04f]tolis1@hotmail.com[/email:22ekx04f]

[cvhi]

Hello Volvo in motorpsort

I have entry list about Hunsruck 1998, but I dont find Karlsson (Volvo), perhaps he is engaged on national rally ??

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Hello Volvo in motorpsort

I have entry list about Hunsruck 1998, but I dont find Karlsson (Volvo), perhaps he is engaged on national rally ??



Hello!
Thanks for your help, and the info.

I have a clip from a Swedish car magazin that say he won his class in the rally. But not which year.
I belived it was 1998, but i was not sure. Perhaps it was 1997 or 1999?!

This is the second Volvo 940 that was built for rally, used in the Swedish National class. Later called Group H.
And Mats won the championship in the Volvo 1997.

Regards: Volvo in Motorsport.

[SSR2]

Hello!
Thanks for your help, and the info.

I have a clip from a Swedish car magazin that say he won his class in the rally. But not which year.
I belived it was 1998, but i was not sure. Perhaps it was 1997 or 1999?!

This is the second Volvo 940 that was built for rally, used in the Swedish National class. Later called Group H.
And Mats won the championship in the Volvo 1997.

Regards: Volvo in Motorsport.

Hello

Mats was driving i the Hunsrück Nationell Rally 1998 with startnumber 201 and his codriver was Anders Martinsson

Regards SSR2

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Hello

Mats was driving i the Hunsrück Nationell Rally 1998 with startnumber 201 and his codriver was Anders Martinsson

Regards SSR2


Thank you for the info SSR2!! :)

Best regards: Volvo in Motorsport

[Shacki]

Hello,

I search entry list since a long time about BARUM RALLY (TCH) : 90 (15/18 Juin), 91 (14/16 Juin), 92 (12/14 Juin), 93 (4/6 Juin), 94 (19/21 Aout), 96 (9/10 Aout), and SKODA (TCH) : 77 (1/2 Juillet), 82 (9/11 Juil), 83 (16/17 Juil), 84 (14/15 Juil), 85 (18/20 Juil), BOHEMIA : 86 (12/13 Juil), 88 (30/2 Juil), 90 (13/14 Juil), 91 (12/14 Juil), 93 (9/10 Juil), 94 (14/17 Juil), 95 (13/16 Juil), 96 (5/6 Juil), 97 (10/11 Juil), 98 (10/11 Juil), 99 (9/10 Juil).

If someone can help me. Many thanks
[email:q13ck6dx]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:q13ck6dx]

eWRC-results.com - Barum Rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/events.php?id=27)

eWRC-results.com - Rally Bohemia (http://www.ewrc-results.com/events.php?id=28)

[januszsz]

Hi, some time ago I browsed eWRC site and I spot a mistake concerning Jan Trajbold senior. There is his rally record and the last start of him is mentioned to be a Rallysprint in Sosnova 2003. Well, I think it was his son Jan Trajbold jr as Trajbold senior died in 2001...
Regards
Janusz

[jrally]

eWRC has a lot of small mistakes because they usually put the results but they don't have any preocupations to check them ... like Tjeerd does in his rallybase. It's a fantastic site but they have to have more care to check informations ... Sometime ago I've report one error but they didn't care ...

Best regards
Jorge

[D-Type]

Surely it's totally pointless to have a facts website that is not accurate and not check the input or correct errors when they are spotted.

[cvhi]

Thank you Sharcki for your information, but jorge Taborda is right, there are many errors and lists are often incomplete, it is about lists of start and I look for the entry lists with not started.

Best regards Christophe

[januszsz]

I am looking for full result of following Rally of Poland / Polish Rally:
1961
1974
1975
1979
1980
I am looking also for an entry list/list of starters from Rally of Poland / Polish Rally:
1970

Regards
Janusz

[Jobo]

Hello,
I am new here and this is my 1st post.

Has anybody the exact date of the 1956 Rally Sestriere and complete entry list?

Please contact me offline:
[email:18hxf9mg]tipo300S@t-online.de[/email:18hxf9mg]

Many thanks in advance!

JoBo

[jrally]

Hi Jobo !
Just the date 24-27/02

Best regards
Jorge

[jrally]

Sorry !
24-28 February

regards
Jorge

[Red bull]

FLASHBACK LOEB/ELENA TOYOTA COROLLA WRC WRC Rally Corsica 2000 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deh5q_DACq0)

[jrally]

Good evening !

Does someone has the complete results of ERC rounds that Could share ?

Arctic, Catalunya-Costa Brava, Boucles de SPA, Sachs Winter, Hellendoorn, Saturnus, Barum, Gunayidin, Hunsruck, Asturias, Cyprus, Semperit and Valeo

Thank You in advance
Best regards
Jorge

[elvis]

Good evening !

Does someone has the complete results of ERC rounds that Could share ?

Arctic, Catalunya-Costa Brava, Boucles de SPA, Sachs Winter, Hellendoorn, Saturnus, Barum, Gunayidin, Hunsruck, Asturias, Cyprus, Semperit and Valeo

Thank You in advance
Best regards
Jorge

About Boucles de Spa (and other belgium result) , you could find some information like leading result (top 10 , 20 ... somtimes complet) , leading entries , or timing in the archives of actu - lesoir.be (http://www.lesoir.be) !
for exemple , result of the 89's edition :
Et Patrick Snyers (http://archives.lesoir.be/et-patrick-snyers_t-19890220-Z01DUW.html?queryand=boucles+de+spa&firstHit=0&by=50&when=-2&begYear=1989&begMonth=01&begDay=01&endYear=1989&endMonth=03&endDay=10&sort=dateasc&rub=TOUT&pos=10&all=13&nav=1)

[jrally]

Thank You, Elvis , for your help !

Best regards
Jorge

[januszsz]

Good evening !

Does someone has the complete results of ERC rounds that Could share ?

Arctic, Catalunya-Costa Brava, Boucles de SPA, Sachs Winter, Hellendoorn, Saturnus, Barum, Gunayidin, Hunsruck, Asturias, Cyprus, Semperit and Valeo

Thank You in advance
Best regards
Jorge
Hi Jorge,
I can provide you full result of Barum Rally 1995-2000 and top 15 from 1992.
Regards
Janusz

[Shacki]

Almost all editions of Barum Rally with full results are here

eWRC-results.com - Barum Rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/events.php?id=27)

Hunsruck 1993

eWRC-results.com - results AvD/STH Hunsrck Rallye 1993 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=4617&t=AvD/STH-Hunsruck-Rallye-1993)

[jrally]

Thank You, Janusz and Shacki !

I forgot to mention that was from year 1990 that I was looking for ! Sorry !

Best regards
Jorge

[OldF]

Here are the latest versions of top 10 rally seasons 1973-2010. This “project” was on hold for over a year but I thought that if I started it, I’ve to finalize it at some point. When I started again, I made so many click, click…. that I lost all the power from my right hand fingers and had to have a couple month of break again.

Both files include a main page, from where you can choose the year to browse. Clicking on the “year” button takes you to that year of “drivers” or “cars”, “drivers points” or “manufacturer’s points” and “rallies 1973-2010” where you can filter by “year”, "position", “rally”, “driver” and “car” or any combination of these.

Both files also includes tables for “driver-cars” which show what cars a certain driver has driven and a table “cars-drivers” which shows the drivers of a certain car.

The file “WRC cars 1973-2010” also include wins of “make-evo”, “make-model” and wins of a makes.

If someone doesn’t have Excel, you can download an Excel viewer from Download: Excel Viewer - Microsoft Download Center - Download Details (http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=10)

Download links:

WRC drivers 1973-2010.xls download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/document/71RygwfH/WRC_drivers_1973-2010.html)

WRC cars 1973-2010.xls download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/document/xzeapmFd/WRC_cars_1973-2010.html)

At least year 1983 was a peculiar year because they’re where several drivers far outside top ten that got WRC points. For example Mike Cameron got 2 points in NZ with a 27th position and that’s was because it was the first year only group A, B and N cars & drivers scored championship points.

I hope we could have this thread also as a general discussion of rally history regulations, when homologations where taken in use etc. because there’s already a thread about history results.

[N.O.T]

Crazy project !!

Thank you !!

[OldF]

Yes, it was. If had knew how much time it will take I probably wouldn’t have begun doing it. Only to get cars & drivers in some sort of order I had to make 2*39*3 = 234 sorting (Excel can sort only 3 columns at time) + to get the cars and drivers combined whit each other in the cars and drivers spreadsheets. Begun whit Access but then I remembered that Excel has Pivot tables and it was more easy to do it with the Pivot tables.

But I think I will update the files with the 2011 & 2012 seasons at the end of the year or beginning of next year.

[stefanvv]

Yes, it was. If had knew how much time it will take I probably wouldn’t have begun doing it. Only to get cars & drivers in some sort of order I had to make 2*39*3 = 234 sorting (Excel can sort only 3 columns at time) + to get the cars and drivers combined whit each other in the cars and drivers spreadsheets. Begun whit Access but then I remembered that Excel has Pivot tables and it was more easy to do it with the Pivot tables.

But I think I will update the files with the 2011 & 2012 seasons at the end of the year or beginning of next year.

Great stuff! Does it work fully with Openoffice's Calc?

[D-Type]

I have moved these posts into this thread because the regular contributors said they only want to have one Rally History thread.

Duncan (Moderator of the History forum)

[OldF]

I have moved these posts into this thread because the regular contributors said they only want to have one Rally History thread.

Duncan (Moderator of the History forum)

Thanks for the info. Could you please notify a moderator of the WRC sub-forum to either delete the threads “WRC results 1973 – 2010” or change the link to “Rally History (part III) for the first thread and delete the second one. I don’t know how I managed to make a double post of that thread.

[EightGear]

Thank You, Janusz and Shacki !

I forgot to mention that was from year 1990 that I was looking for ! Sorry !

Best regards
Jorge

I can get you the top 10 of Hellendoorn.

[OldF]

Great stuff! Does it work fully with Openoffice's Calc?

No. Everything else seems to be working except the buttons choosing the year. Only way I’ve got them working was to go to Tools – Macros – Run a Macro and [+] for WRC drivers 1973 – 2010 or [+] for WRC cars 1973 – 2010 and then [+] for Standard and click on Taul1 (cars) or Taul2 (drivers) and choose a macro to run (CommandButton1_Click = year 1973, CommandButton2_Click = year 1974).

Not the easiest way to choose the year. Maybe faster to go to the spreadsheet and search the year to be browsed. And don’t anything about Open Office and haven’t use it much, but maybe here’s some member that knows more about how to convert Microsoft Visual Basic to the corresponding Open Office “Visual Basic” if it’s even possible.

[jrally]

Thank You, EightGear !
I have the top 10 of each of those rounds but thank You anyway

Best regards
Jorge

[OldF]

I noticed that the command (year) buttons doesn’t work in Excel Viewer either.

The only solution for those who don’t have Excel is to download Open Office from:
Apache OpenOffice Downloads (http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html)

I found the tools to “reconnect” the buttons to the macros.

The Open Office files can be downloaded from:

WRC drivers 1973-2010.ods download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/QfVQaYPF/WRC_drivers_1973-2010.html)

WRC cars 1973-2010.ods download - 2shared (http://www.2shared.com/file/wqMhYdb8/WRC_cars_1973-2010.html)

At least the buttons works with my 3.2.1 version of Open Office

Have fun. ;)

[Steve Boyd]

Good evening !

Does someone has the complete results of ERC rounds that Could share ?

Arctic, Catalunya-Costa Brava, Boucles de SPA, Sachs Winter, Hellendoorn, Saturnus, Barum, Gunayidin, Hunsruck, Asturias, Cyprus, Semperit and Valeo

Thank You in advance
Best regards
Jorge
Results for Rally of Turkey from 1996 to 2000 are available here:
25th International Rally of Turkey (http://archive.djames.org.uk/1996/turkey/index.html)
26th Rally of Turkey 1997 (http://archive.djames.org.uk/1997/turkey/index.html)
Rally of Turkey 1998 (http://archive.djames.org.uk/1998/turkey/index.html)
28th Rally of Turkey (http://archive.djames.org.uk/1999/turkey/index.html)
29th Rally of Turkey (http://archive.djames.org.uk/2000/turkey/index.html)

[jrally]

Thank You, Steve Boyd !
But the results I'm looking for are those from 1990

Best regards
Jorge

[JLe]

Hello,

Missing dates and info about Finnish competitors, and if any other Finns than listed below:

1976
Tour of Dean
#?? Ari Vatanen - Terry Harryman, Ford Escort RS (reg. number?), 2nd overall
#?? Pentti Airikkala - ?, Ford Escort RS (reg?), pos?

Tour of Britain
#?? Timo Mäkinen - Henry Liddon, Ford Escort RS2000 (OVX430P), retired
#?? Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort 2000 (OVX431P), 1st

Jim Clark Rally
#?? Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (reg?), 1st

Burmah Rally
#4 Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (LAR801P), 1st

Granite City Rally
#?? Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (reg?), 4th
#?? Pentti Airikkala - ?, Ford Escort RS (reg?), pos?

Lindisfarne Rally
#?? Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (reg?), 1st
#?? Pentti Airikkala - Mike Greasley, Ford Escort RS (reg?), pos?
#?? Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz, Toyota Celica (reg?), pos?

1977
Granite City Rally
#?? Pentti Airikkala - ?, Vauxhall Chevette (reg?), pos?
#?? Hannu Mikkola - ?, ? (reg?), pos?

Ypres Rally
#?? Hannu Mikkola - ?, ? (reg?), pos?

Jim Clark Rally
#?? Pentti Airikkala - ?, Vauxhall Chevette (reg?), pos?

Burmah Rally
#3 Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz, Toyota Celica (ACM55RO1861), pos?
#?? Pentti Airikkala - John Gittins, Vauxhall Chevette (HSS975N), pos?

Lindisfarne Rally
#?? Hannu Mikkola - ?, ? (reg?), pos?
#?? Pentti Airikkala - ?, Vauxhall Chevette (reg?), pos?



King Regards,
JLe

[jrally]

Hello,

Missing dates and info about Finnish competitors, and if any other Finns than listed below:

1976
Tour of Dean
#03 Ari Vatanen - Terry Harryman, Ford Escort RS (LAR 801 P), 2nd overall
#01 Pentti Airikkala - John Davenport, Ford Escort RS (reg?), retired

Tour of Britain
#04 Timo Mäkinen - Henry Liddon, Ford Escort RS2000 (OVX430P), retired
#09 Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort 2000 (OVX431P), 1st

Jim Clark Rally
#03 Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (LAR 801 P), 1st

Burmah Rally
#4 Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (LAR801P), 1st

Granite City Rally
#04 Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (LAR 801 P), 4th
#?? Pentti Airikkala - Mike Greasley Ford Escort RS (reg?), retired

Lindisfarne Rally
#01 Ari Vatanen - Peter Bryant, Ford Escort RS (reg?), 1st
#04 Pentti Airikkala - Mike Greasley, Ford Escort RS (reg?), 2nd
#03 Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz, Toyota Celica (reg?), 8th

King Regards,
JLe

Tomorrow I will look more
Best regards
Jorge

[JLe]

Thanks, Jorge!

I made one mistake. Co-driver of Ari Vatanen at 1976 Tour of Dean was Peter Bryant, not Terry Harryman as I wrote yesterday. Sorry.

JLe

[januszsz]

Hello,

Missing dates and info about Finnish competitors, and if any other Finns than listed below:

1977 Burmah Rally
#3 Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz, Toyota Celica (ACM55RO1861), pos?
#?? Pentti Airikkala - John Gittins, Vauxhall Chevette (HSS975N), pos?


King Regards,
JLe

Airikkala did not finish the rally because of a rear suspension failure.

Regards
Janusz

[jrally]

Hello,

Missing dates and info about Finnish competitors, and if any other Finns than listed below:

1977
Granite City Rally
#03 Pentti Airikkala - Colin Francis, Vauxhall Chevette (HSS 755 N), 2nd
#02 Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz, Toyota Corolla Coupé G5 (reg?), retired

Ypres Rally
#?? Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz , Toyota Celica GT (reg?), retired (engine)

Jim Clark Rally
#01 Pentti Airikkala - Colin Francis, Vauxhall Chevette (reg?), 2nd

Burmah Rally
#3 Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz, Toyota Celica (ACM55RO1861), 1st
#2 Pentti Airikkala - John Gittins, Vauxhall Chevette (HSS975N), retired (rear suspension)

Lindisfarne Rally
#4 Hannu Mikkola - Arne Hertz, Toyota Corolla (reg?), retired (oil pressure)
#5 Pentti Airikkala - John Gittins, Vauxhall Chevette (reg?), 4th



King Regards,
JLe

The rest ...
Best regards
Jorge

[FAL]

Vatanen used LAR801P on all the British Championship rounds in 1976. Until the 76 RAC, this was the original body shell used by Makinen to win the 75 RAC.
Airikkala used a MK1 for some rounds of the 76 British Championship (including the Scottish) after starting out in a Mk2 (both Sutton cars). I don't have reg nos to hand but can check.

[JLe]

Thanks to You all!

But still missing dates for those rallies?

I have such a many questions according to Finnish drivers abroad. There was such a pity information except World Championship events in Finland at 70's and even in early 80's.

In 1976 Pentti used at least Mk 1 SNO666M and Mk 2 MLD999P.


I'll try to help if anyone of You have some questions according to Finnish rallies.

[JLe]

Lindisfarne Rally 1977

#5 Pentti Airikkala - John Gittins, Vauxhall Chevette (reg?), 4th




There's a pic of Pentti and other nice pics too.

HSS975N Pentti Airikkala Chevette HS2300 (http://www.rallyphotos.co.uk/hss975n-pentti-airikkala-chevette-hs2300)


Got a good info of '78 Lindisfarne Rally also but still missing co-drivers of Mikkola and Erkki Pitkänen and their results too.

[BDunnell]

Vatanen used LAR801P on all the British Championship rounds in 1976. Until the 76 RAC, this was the original body shell used by Makinen to win the 75 RAC.
Airikkala used a MK1 for some rounds of the 76 British Championship (including the Scottish) after starting out in a Mk2 (both Sutton cars). I don't have reg nos to hand but can check.

It seems possible to see the reg of Airikkala's Mk1 on this video: 1976 Scottish Rally.flv - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQDBlLA_RE)

Looks like SNO 666M?

[cvhi]

Hello, I search entry list about these rally, perhaps you can help me ?
Many thanks
best regards

[email:2e327xaw]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:2e327xaw]

SCOTTISH RALLY 1970 1971 1972 1975 1976 1979 1980 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1989 1990 1991 1992 1993 1994
CIRCUIT D'IRLANDE 1970 1971 1973 1974 1975 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 1987 1989 1990 1991
MANX RALLY 1977 1978 1979 1981 1984 1985 1987
GALWAY 1975 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983
VAUXHALL WALES 1994 1995 1996

[JLe]

It seems possible to see the reg of Airikkala's Mk1 on this video: 1976 Scottish Rally.flv - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQDBlLA_RE)

Looks like SNO 666M?

Yes it is SNO 666M. Who was Pentti's co-driver?

[jrally]

Good evening,

Mikkola was Nº 2 at Ypres Rally 1977. Reg. Nº ACM 55 RO 1861

Best regards
Jorge

[jrally]

There's a pic of Pentti and other nice pics too.

HSS975N Pentti Airikkala Chevette HS2300 (http://www.rallyphotos.co.uk/hss975n-pentti-airikkala-chevette-hs2300)


Got a good info of '78 Lindisfarne Rally also but still missing co-drivers of Mikkola and Erkki Pitkänen and their results too.

#2 - Hannu Mikkola-Arne Hertz Ford Escort RS 1800 retire (clutch)
#3 - Ari Vatanen-Peter Bryant Ford Escort RS 1800 1st
#6 - Erkki Pitkanen-John Jensen Datsun Violet retire (accident)

Regards
Jorge

[jrally]

One quastion JLe regarding Finnish rally

What was the reason of retirement of Mikko Pajunen in WRC Finland Rally 2010 ?
the real reason ... 'technical' doesn't count ... ;-)

Thank You
regards
Jorge

[Steve Boyd]

According to this entry list:
http://www.thedeanrallies.com/images/stories/ToD_76_Entry_List.pdf
Ari used LAR800P with Clark in 801, of course what was put on the entry form & what they actually turned up in could be different!
Pentti's registration is given as MLO999P.
The entry list is posted on the Tour of Dean page of the Dean Rallies web site here:
Home | Rally Enthusiasts | Gloucestershire | The Dean Rallies UK (http://www.thedeanrallies.com/)

[JLe]

Thanks to You all again.


One quastion JLe regarding Finnish rally

What was the reason of retirement of Mikko Pajunen in WRC Finland Rally 2010 ?
the real reason ... 'technical' doesn't count ... ;-)

Thank You
regards
Jorge

Finnish motorsport newspaper says that the last reason was an electric throttle.


Best Regards
JLe

[JLe]

According to this entry list:
http://www.thedeanrallies.com/images/stories/ToD_76_Entry_List.pdf
Ari used LAR800P with Clark in 801, of course what was put on the entry form & what they actually turned up in could be different!
Pentti's registration is given as MLO999P.


Thanks!

I surely wonder if Ari really used LAR800P because it was RHD and with Cossack livery.


Best Regards
JLe

[jrally]

Thanks to You all again.



Finnish motorsport newspaper says that the last reason was an electric throttle.


Best Regards
JLe

Thank You very much, JLe !

Best regards
Jorge

[FAL]

Thanks!
I surely wonder if Ari really used LAR800P because it was RHD and with Cossack livery.
Best Regards
JLe
I think you can safely assume it was their normal cars, used for the rest of the season, for each of them. I did a bit of work for the Tour of Dean web site and most of it involved giving names etc. from memory where they found the official entry lists were incomplete or had obvious errors.
MLD999P was of course the Sutton registration (I'm not saying car!) later used by Vatanen in the 77 British championship.

[jrally]

I think you can safely assume it was their normal cars, used for the rest of the season, for each of them. I did a bit of work for the Tour of Dean web site and most of it involved giving names etc. from memory where they found the official entry lists were incomplete or had obvious errors.
MLD999P was of course the Sutton registration (I'm not saying car!) later used by Vatanen in the 77 British championship.

For sure, Ari Vatanen, drove the LAR 801 P ! A photo in Motoring News atested it !

Best regards
Jorge

[januszsz]

What start number had Teemu Tahko (Polonez 2000) in Arctic Rally 1981?
Thank you for help.
Regards
Janusz

[jrally]

What start number had Teemu Tahko (Polonez 2000) in Arctic Rally 1981?
Thank you for help.
Regards
Janusz

Nº 20, Janusz !

Regards
Jorge

[januszsz]

Nº 20, Janusz !

Regards
Jorge
Many thanks Jorge!

Warm regards
Janusz

[jrally]

Good evening,
Does anyone has the COMPLETE results of Tour of Cyprus (not Cyprus Rally) of 1997 that could share ?

Thanks in advance
Jorge

[jrally]

Good morning !

1) Does anyone have some data regarding Lorenzo Bertelli (date and place of birth, year of first Rally and first car) ?
2) Does anyone have the complete results of 1989 Rallye Cyprus and Semperit ?

Thanks in advance
Best regards
Jorge

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Hello!

Can anyone help me with rallies in Denmark in the 1990`s. I am looking for entries made by Swedish driver´s in Volvo 240 turbo.
I know that some Swedes rallied there with these cars, and would be greatful if someone have any info, like entrylists or pics. Or a link to a webpage with info.

Best regards: Volvo in Motorsport

[hsmed]

I cannot help you with much - but I do remember some names of Swedish drivers in Danish rallies during the 90's.
Most known was Jonas Kruse, who was very popular due to how he threw the huge Volvo Turbo arround the stages.
Another name, I remember, was Tony Mårtensson, who for several years drove many rallies in Denmark. However I think, that his Volvo was only a normally aspirated and not a Turbo.
A Danish video production company has recorded Danish rallies since 1988 and do sell DVD's from the 90's - I remember having seen at least Kruse in some of their videos, but do not remember which ones. So - not much help, really. Anyway - a link is here: Race Media Website4 (http://www.race-media.dk/RM-DVDER.html)
I will try to dig out some old magazines one evening to see if I can find some results for you.

[Volvo in Motorsport]

I cannot help you with much - but I do remember some names of Swedish drivers in Danish rallies during the 90's.
Most known was Jonas Kruse, who was very popular due to how he threw the huge Volvo Turbo arround the stages.
Another name, I remember, was Tony Mårtensson, who for several years drove many rallies in Denmark. However I think, that his Volvo was only a normally aspirated and not a Turbo.
A Danish video production company has recorded Danish rallies since 1988 and do sell DVD's from the 90's - I remember having seen at least Kruse in some of their videos, but do not remember which ones. So - not much help, really. Anyway - a link is here: Race Media Website4 (http://www.race-media.dk/RM-DVDER.html)
I will try to dig out some old magazines one evening to see if I can find some results for you.


Thank you for the help and the link!

Yes, Mårtensson drove a N/A car, but now have a 240 Group A rally car. He actually bought the car from Jan Norgard Jensen in -95. Before that the car was raced by Peter Werner Hansen in the late 1980´s.

[janvanvurpa]

Hello!

Can anyone help me with rallies in Denmark in the 1990`s. I am looking for entries made by Swedish driver´s in Volvo 240 turbo.
I know that some Swedes rallied there with these cars, and would be greatful if someone have any info, like entrylists or pics. Or a link to a webpage with info.

Best regards: Volvo in Motorsport


Hej Grabben, I can't remember your name but you might get a few laughs if I send you some stuff from mid 80s Canadian Rally Championship where Bo Skovronek from Regina Saskatchewan (actually from near Danzig in the former Ost Pruessen) was Champion in his 240 GpA car... my first National Championship rally ever was Rocky Mountain Rally which he won and it was chance to see a couple of times how the other guys were doing and it was a beautiful sight to see Bo slide that 240..

Buit what's this about 240 being huge? Its about--within a few cm the size of a modern Focus,.

Now 740 and 940 jeeezuz! stretch-limos!

Doesn't seem to hurt them on gravel.

[Volvo in Motorsport]

Hej Grabben, I can't remember your name but you might get a few laughs if I send you some stuff from mid 80s Canadian Rally Championship where Bo Skovronek from Regina Saskatchewan (actually from near Danzig in the former Ost Pruessen) was Champion in his 240 GpA car... my first National Championship rally ever was Rocky Mountain Rally which he won and it was chance to see a couple of times how the other guys were doing and it was a beautiful sight to see Bo slide that 240..

Buit what's this about 240 being huge? Its about--within a few cm the size of a modern Focus,.

Now 740 and 940 jeeezuz! stretch-limos!

Doesn't seem to hurt them on gravel.

Tack så hemskt mycket!! That would be great!! I have tried to find some stuff on Bo´s Volvo, and also Wayne Baldwin´s 240.

Here is my E-Mail: [email:3r3a5k2f]volvoinmotorsport@yahoo.se[/email:3r3a5k2f]

In Sweden there is a lot of 240, 740 and 940 in rallies. In 1997 Mats Karlsson won the National championship with a 940, with a N/A engine putting out 275 hp