Rally History (part III) [Archive] - Page 7

januszsz

7th August 2011, 18:05

ERC - 1970 :
2/Penumant - 3,5,9,10 th ;
03 Gilbert Casselsjö S C. Olsson S Ford Capri GT
05 Eberhard Asmus DDR Helmuth Piehler DDR Trabant 601
09 Frieder Kramer DDR Gisela Kramer DDR Trabant 601
10 E Erlich DDR D. Schöne DDR Wartburg 353

3/Circuit of Ireland - 4-10 th ;
04 Robert McBurney GB Norman Smith GB BMW 2002 TI
05 Lasse Jönsson S Andres Quist S Saab 96 V4
06 John Bloxham GB Richard Harper GB BMW 2002 TI
07 Adrian Boyd IRL Beatty Crawford IRL Ford Escort TC
08 Mick Dolan IRL John O'Brien IRL Ford Escort TC
09 Tony Fowkes GB Peter O'Gorman GB Ford Cortina Lotus
10 Bror Danielsson S S-E. Johansson S Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye

4/Isola d'Elba -5 th and 8-10 th ;
05 Renato Sonda I Delfo Turri I Fiat 125 S
08 "Giubar" I Scalabrini I Fiat 124
09 Squillace I Domenico Bettini I Lancia Fulvia Rally HF 1600
10 "Popo" I Zanussi I Lancia Fulvia Rally HF 1600

6/Wiesbaden - 3,5,7,8 th ;
03 Karl W. Richter D K. Polland D BMW 2002 TI
05 Klaus Miersch D Agethen D Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye
07 Günter Schons D Reiner Zweibäumer D Ford Capri 2.3
08 Erhard Memmel D Gerald Rauch D Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye

7/Bodensee - 4-7 th ;
04 Heribert Neger Sternecker BMW 2002 TI
05 Robert Zelenka A Richard Zelenka A Ford Escort TC
06 Heide Utz D Werner? Brust D BMW 2002 TI
07 Hubert Neukom A Georg Hopf A BMW 2002 TI

8/Lorainne - 3-4 th ;
03 Jacques Henry F Lauer F Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S
04 Jean-Louis Barailler F Flavigny F Alfa Romeo

9/Scottish - 4,6,9 th ;
04 Colin "Dan" Grewer GB Ian Grewer GB Volvo 122 S
06 Jimmy Wilson GB Iain Knox GB Hillman Hunter
09 Ron Pilcher GB J. Clark GB Ford Cortina Lotus

10/Geneve - 9 th ;
09 Meier Bianchi Porsche 911R

11/Vltava - 3,8 th ;
03 Walter Roser A Roman Loibnegger A Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S
08 Hans Britth S Sven Erik Jansson S Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye

12/Rajd Polski - 7 th ;
07 Ulf Sundberg S D. Jonsson S Lancia Fulvia Rally HF 1600

15/San Martino di Castrozza - 6-7 th ;
06 Alberto Smania I Borsetto I Fiat 125 S
07 "Giampietro" I Borsoi I Porsche 911S

16/Tour de France - 8-10 th ;
08 Henri Balas F A. Imbert F Porsche 914/6
09 Jean-Pierre Hanrioud F M. Viollet F Porsche 911S
10 Selz Cochet Porsche 911S

17/München-Wien-Budapest - 4,6,10 th ;
04 Achim Warmbold D R. Kec D Opel Kadett GT
06 Walter Roser A Leopold Mayer A Alpine-Renault A110 1600 S
10 Leopold Bosch A W. Lier Volkswagen 1302 S

18/TAP - 5-10 th ;
05 Francisco Romaozinho P Costa Simoes P Citroën DS 21
06 Antonio Peixinho P José Bandeira P Alfa Romeo 1750
07 Americo Nunes P Fernando Fonseca P Porsche 911S
08 Giovanni Salvi P José Arnaud P Porsche 911T
09 "Chavan" B Robert Loyens B Datsun 1600 SSS
10 Roy Fidler GB Barry Hughes GB Ford Escort TC

19/1000 minuten - 5,10 th ;
05 Dr Gernot Fischer A Klaus Rader A Volkswagen 1302 S
10 F.M. Kerschbaum A R. Sedlacek A BMW 2002 TI

20/ RACE - 9,10 th ;
09 Gerardo van Dulken NL Ricardo Antolin E Renault 8 Gordini
10 Juan Carlos Garcia de la Rasilla E "Javal" E Renault 8 Gordini

21/Tour de Corse - 7 th ;
07 Jean-Marie Jacquemin B Rouff B Alpine-Renault A110

22/Tour de Belgique - 9 th
09 Vanhunessel Demay Porsche 911S

Regards
Janusz

Alfa Fan

7th August 2011, 19:02

Are we going to talk about Snetterton?

stanislav197

7th August 2011, 21:12

Thanks,Janusz . Help me for ERC - 1969 :3/Tulpen - 1-10 th ;4/Alpenfart - 9-10 th ;5/Acropolis - 4 th end 8-10 th ;9/Coupe des Alpes - 9 th ;10 Baltic - 3-10 th ;11/München-Wien-Budapest - 5-8 th ;12 RACE - 7,10 th ;13 RAC - 10 th .

kabouter

8th August 2011, 16:38

Some additions to 1974 results, taken from Autocourse 1974/75 - no guarantees that the spelling of all names there is correct.

ERC - 1974 :
2/Costa Brava - 3-10 th;
03 Pedro Cortes P Jorge Mira Amaral P Datsun 1200
04 Rafael Cid Navarro E Joaquin Nanté E Seat 1430
05 Antonio Borges P Pina de Morais P Alpine-Renault A110
06 "Jean-Claude" E Antonio Sallen E Seat 1430

3/San Marino - 6-10 th ; I have only top 4 - let me know who was 5th
5 Leo Pittoni I Volpinari I Fiat 124
6 Ferraris I Cianci I Lancia Fulvia HF 1.6

15/Ypres - 5 th ;
05 Maurice Nusbaumer F Luc Pyncker B Alpine-Renault A110 -

16/Vltava - 2,4,6,8 th ;
02 Jan Carneborn S Lennart Johansson S Opel Ascona

22/Lugano 3-10h ; -
03 Carlo Bianchi I Pietro Silvia I Porsche 911 Carrera RS
04 Angelo Beretta I Giovanni Pirovano I Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV
05 Walter Finzi I Ernesto Faggioli I Opel Ascona
06 Cesare de Angelis I Giuseppe Gasparoli I Lancia Fulvia HF 1.6

23/Ö.A.S.C
06 Winfried Hermann D Christa Hermann D Porsche 911 Carrera RS

25/Saint-Amand-les-Eaux -1 th and 5-10 th - I don't have that rally as an ERC round in 1974
Also Autocourse does not have results for this rally, but in the ERC points table I have - I think scanned from Italian yearbook Velocità & Rally - this round is included, with Maurice Nusbaumer credited with 20 points for winning this round.

januszsz

9th August 2011, 06:43

Thank you Tjeerd for precious additions.
Who can help with Saint-Amand-Les-Aux 1974? - was it a round of ERC or not?
ERC - 1969 :
3/Tulpen - 1-10 th ;
01 Gilbert Staepelaere B André Aerts B Ford Escort TC
02 Rob Slotemaker NL Ferry van der Geest NL BMW 2002 TI
03 Hans Lannsjö S Hans Sundin S Opel Kadett 1.9 Rallye
04 Jean-Louis Haxhe B Christian Delferrier B DAF 55
05 Claude Laurent F Jacques Marche F DAF 55
06 Manfred Gudladt D Heiko Henneking D Alfa Romeo 1750 Berlina
07 Theo Johannes Koks NL Rob Wiedenhoff NL DAF 55
08 Theo Schoondebeek NL Hans de Jong NL BMW 2002
09 Walter Pöltinger A Leopold Mayer A Porsche 911T
10 "Christine" B Gaby Arendt B Alfa Romeo 1750

4/Österreichische Alpenfahrt - 9-10 th ;
09 Walter Pöltinger A Leopold Mayer A Porsche 911
10 Carl Christian Schindler A Gustav Hruschka A Volkswagen 1500

5/Acropolis - 4 th and 8-10 th ; -it was not an ERC rally, it was a part of Makes' Championship

9/Coupe des Alpes - 9 th ; -it was not an ERC rally, probably as they allowed to drive prototypes

10 Baltic - 3-10 th ; -it was not an ERC rally, it was a part of Makes' Championship

11/München-Wien-Budapest - 5-8 th ; -it was not an ERC rally, it was a part of Makes' Championship

12 RACE - 7,10 th ;
07 José Manuel Lencina E Caballero E Lancia Fulvia HF 1.3
08 Kurt Simonsen S Arne Henriksson S Opel Kadett GT
09 Emilio Rodriguez Zapico E "Gregorio" E Renault 8 Gordini
10 Claes Billstam S Synnove Billstam S Opel Kadett

13 RAC - 10 th .
10 Lasse Jönsson S B. Eliasson/P.Lidström? S 26 Saab 96 V4

According to my knowledge ERC callendar in 1969 was realised as follows:
1969 14-17.02 KAK Svenska S
1969 05-08.03 San Remo I
1969 28.04-02.05 Tulpen NL
1969 14-19.05 Alpenfahrt A
1969 04-06.07 Vltava CS
1969 16-19.07 Polski PL
1969 16-19.10 R.A.C.E. E
1969 14-21.11 RAC GB

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

9th August 2011, 08:34

sednem

9th August 2011, 14:03

Hi all, many thanks for all those ERC results updates...
Here's some "corrections".. ad add-ons on stanislav requests...

1995:
Spa : 08 Jean-Paul Schammel/Eric Schock
Spa : 10 Luc Lennertz/Mike Vreven
Ardennes : 09 Olivier Collard/André Toubon
Ardennes : 10 Christoph Schmitz (GER)/Thomas Dienberg (GER)
Rota do Sol : 06 Laurent Galiay/Thierry Galiay
Rota do Sol : 09 Ken Skidmore/Kevin Clark
Rota do Sol : 10 Carlos Fulgêncio/José Martins
Açores : 07 Jorge Félix/Sérgio Paiva
Rouergue : 02 Dominique Kremer/Emmanuel Debois
Turquia : 09 Hakan Severge/Murat Özsan
Cevennes : 02 Richard Thiery/Cyrille Chevron
Cevennes : 04 Guy Hoffeld/Alf Gaspar
Var : 02 Christian Astier/Martine Astier
Var : 08 Tony Margaria/Gabriele Clerici
1996:
Ardennes : 10 Jean Koutenko (LUX)/Carlo Goeres
Roménia : 07 Dan Gîrtofan/Anca Bobes
Açores/BCA : 06 Paulo Rego/Fernando Nunes
Algarve : 04 Gustavo Louro/Raúl Ventura
Algarve : 05 Alexandre Rebelo/José Pedro Silva

ERC 77
Saint Amand : Cancelled
ARBO : I have only 1st: Röhrl/Pitz (Porsche Carrera RSR)...
Lorraine I have only 1st : Francis Roussely/Christian Berguet – Porsche carrera RSR
Donegal:
1. #??? Billy Coleman (IRL)/Austin Frazer (GBR) - Lancia Stratos HF -
2. #??? Campbell (???)/Detlev Speer (???) - Porsche Carrera -
3. #??? Adrian Boyd (IRL)/Vole (???) - Porsche Carrera -
4. #??? David Agnew (GBR)/Robert Harkness (GBR) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #??? Bertie Fisher (IRL)/Ian Hughes (IRL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

1975:
1/Polar Bergslags (I also have only top8), for 2nd place I have:
2. #??? Bror Danielsson (SWE)/Bo Sundberg (SWE) - Opel Ascona SR
1974 Firestone:
7. #??? Julio Gargallo (ESP)/Ignacio Lewin (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
8. #??? Juan Carlos Oñoro (ESP)/Juan Petisco (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
9. #??? Paul Olsen (DNK)/Karsten Richardt (DNK) - BMW 2002 Tii -
10. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/"Ynad" (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

1973 :
Last Wiesbaden Rally (Coupe des Alpes as well) was held in 1971
for the 1000 minuten rally last edition held in 1972!

in 1969 there was a Makes European Chpship with : Monte, Acropolis, 1000 Lakes, Coupe des Alpes, Baltic and Munchen-Wien-Budapest
I dont know if those rallys count to drivers ERC... for wich I have one more race than Janusz: Romanian Donau Rally from 31/7 to 3/8

Best regards
Américo

sednem

9th August 2011, 14:09

Regarding the 1974 St Amand les Eaux discussion: Yes it was a ERC Round ...
Seen in documents below...

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Best regards
Américo.

sednem

9th August 2011, 14:18

Thanks, Janusz . Help me for ERC - 1968 :1/Svenska - 7 th ;4/Pnemant - 4-10 th ;6/Wisbaden - 6-10 th ;7/Österreichische Alpenfahrt - 6,7,10 th ;10/Danube - 5-10 th ;11/Geneve - 6,10 th ;14/Coupe des Alpes - 4,6,8,10 th ;15/ RACE - 5-10 th ;16/ RAC - 10 th . Got the final standings for the championship.First a Pauli Toivonen .2-10 th - ?

Hi Stanislav...

1/Svenska - 7 th
7. #??? Jerry Larsson (SWE)/Torsten Palm (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -

4/Pnemant - 4-10 th
Only have top5...
5. #??? Zdenek Treybal (CSK)/Petr Stefek (CSK) - Saab 96 V4 -

7/Österreichische Alpenfahrt
6. #??? Dieter Benner (???)/Peter Urbanek (???) - BMW 1600Ti -
7. #??? Klaus Reichel (DEU)/Peter Pohl (DEU) - BMW 2002 -
8. #??? Walter Pöltinger (AUT)/Ernst Merinsky (AUT) - Volvo 142-S -
9. #??? Tom Trana (SWE)/Sølve Andreasson (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -
10. #??? Otto Karger (AUT)/Peter Wessely (AUT) - Matra Djet -

10/Danube
Only have top6...
6. #??? Hans Baier (AUT)/Günther Janger (AUT) - Volkswagen 1302 -

11/Geneve
6. #??? Jacques Cochet (???)/??? Feuz (???) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #??? Bob Wolleck (FRA)/Jean-Pierre Delaunay (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
9. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/John Gretener (CHE) - Triumph TR5 -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -

14/Coupe des Alpes
4. #??? Claude Henry (FRA)/Charles Gros (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Jean Valabrègue (FRA)/Sylvain Bernard (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8. #??? Georges Branche (FRA)/Robert Julien (FRA) - Porsche 911-S -
10. #??? Jean-François Henry (FRA)/Dominique Corvi (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

15/ RACE
5. #??? Bernard Tramont (ESP)/Ricardo Muñoz (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Estanislao Reverter (ESP)/Julio Leal (ESP) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA -
7. #??? Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Claude Roure (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? «Pedro» (ESP)/Ramón Canal (ESP) - BMW 2000 Ti -
9. #??? José Manuel Lencina (ESP)/??? Caballero (ESP) - Mini Cooper S -
10. #??? «Christine» (FRA)/«Biche» (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -

16/ RAC
10. #70 G. John (GBR)/Ian Harwood (GBR) - Ford Cortina Lotus - 764'13"

Best regards Américo.

januszsz

9th August 2011, 18:22

in 1969 there was a Makes European Chpship with : Monte, Acropolis, 1000 Lakes, Coupe des Alpes, Baltic and Munchen-Wien-Budapest
I dont know if those rallys count to drivers ERC... for wich I have one more race than Janusz: Romanian Donau Rally from 31/7 to 3/8
Best regards
Américo
Hi Americo,
Makes' Championship was a separate serie from ERC, so those rallies were not a part of ERC.
Donau Rally was planned as a round of ERC but there was disatster with Makes' Championship callendar as Monte Carlo and Coupe des Alpes were out of the championship as they allowed prototypes (no matter what that word means), so Donau was in short notice included to Makes' Championship. It is why I don't have Donau Rally on the ERC'69 list.
Thank you for some additions.

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

9th August 2011, 20:41

Hi , Americo .ERC - 1975 : Rally Polar Bergslags - 6-8 th ; ERC - 1968 :Rally Sweden - 1-10 th ,Rally Pnemant - 4 th ,Rally Danube - 5 th , RAC - 1-10 th ; ERC - 1973 :Rally Munhen-Wien-Budapest -10 th , Rally Cyprus - 7-10 th .

januszsz

9th August 2011, 21:03

[quote="sednem"]Hi Stanislav...

1/Svenska - 7 th - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
7. #??? Jerry Larsson (SWE)/Torsten Palm (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -

4/Pnemant - 4-10 th
Only have top5...
04 Kenneth Gram Nielsen DK M. Sörensen DK BMC Mini Cooper S
5. #??? Zdenek Treybal (CSK)/Petr Stefek (CSK) - Saab 96 V4 -
06 Carl Syberg DK J. Iversen DK Opel Commodore GS
07 Oldrich Horsak CS Jiri Motl CS Skoda 1100 MB
08 Walter Roser A R. Kec Renault 8 Gordini
09 Vaclav Bobek CS H. Bobek CS Skoda 1100 MB
10 Vic Dietmayer A Lambert Hahn A Volvo 142

7/Österreichische Alpenfahrt - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
6. #??? Dieter Benner (???)/Peter Urbanek (???) - BMW 1600Ti -
7. #??? Klaus Reichel (DEU)/Peter Pohl (DEU) - BMW 2002 -
8. #??? Walter Pöltinger (AUT)/Ernst Merinsky (AUT) - Volvo 142-S -
9. #??? Tom Trana (SWE)/Sølve Andreasson (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 -
10. #??? Otto Karger (AUT)/Peter Wessely (AUT) - Matra Djet -

10/Danube
Only have top6...
6. #??? Hans Baier (AUT)/Günther Janger (AUT) - Volkswagen 1302 -
07 G. Bohrn A H. Gubier A Opel Kadett
10 Egon Culmbacher DDR Gunnar Zimmermann DDR Wartburg 353

11/Geneve
6. #??? Jacques Cochet (???)/??? Feuz (???) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #??? Bob Wolleck (FRA)/Jean-Pierre Delaunay (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
9. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/John Gretener (CHE) - Triumph TR5 -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -

14/Coupe des Alpes - it was not an ERC rally
4. #??? Claude Henry (FRA)/Charles Gros (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Jean Valabrègue (FRA)/Sylvain Bernard (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8. #??? Georges Branche (FRA)/Robert Julien (FRA) - Porsche 911-S -
10. #??? Jean-François Henry (FRA)/Dominique Corvi (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

15/ RACE - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
5. #??? Bernard Tramont (ESP)/Ricardo Muñoz (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Estanislao Reverter (ESP)/Julio Leal (ESP) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA -
7. #??? Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Claude Roure (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? «Pedro» (ESP)/Ramón Canal (ESP) - BMW 2000 Ti -
9. #??? José Manuel Lencina (ESP)/??? Caballero (ESP) - Mini Cooper S -
10. #??? «Christine» (FRA)/«Biche» (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -

16/ RAC - It was not an ERC rally, it was a round of Makes' Championship
10. #70 G. John (GBR)/Ian Harwood (GBR) - Ford Cortina Lotus - 764'13"

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

9th August 2011, 21:10

ERC 1968
5. 5. Internazionale Donau-Rallye für Automobile Castrol-Rallye -
05 Carl Christian Schindler A Ernst Marquart A Volkswagen 1500 Sport

Regards
Janusz

cal5658

9th August 2011, 21:45

stanislav197

9th August 2011, 22:36

Some were RESULTS : Rally Sweden 1968 - 1-10 th ,Rally Wisbaden 1968 - 6-10 th ,Rally Danube 1968 - 8-9 th ,Rally RAC 1968 - 1-10 th .

FAL

9th August 2011, 22:39

Pretty sure Sean Campbell GBR (only because I recall someone from IRL saying in 1972 he'd had to travel to the North to get a look at SC's Escort!).

Not that the FIA "GBR" is strictly correct for anyone from there!

januszsz

10th August 2011, 08:36

Rally Sweden 1968 - 1-10 th , - it was not an ERC rally but a round of Makes' Championship!
Rally Wiesbaden 1968 - 6-10 th ,
06 Zdenek Kec CS Mojmir Klima CS Renault 8 Gordini
07 Dieter Lambart D Hans Vogt D Opel Commodore GS
08 Günther Wallrabenstein D Jürgen Säckl D Porsche 911T
09 Antoni Weiner PL Jan Karel PL BMW 1600 TI
10 Dieter Eymann D Rainier Strunz D Alfa Romeo GTA

Rally Danube 1968 - 8-9 th ,
08 Włodzimierz Markowski PL Stanisław Dalka PL Porsche 912
09 Titus Maier-Kaibic A Bernhard Köstenberger A BMW 2002 TI

Rally RAC 1968 - 1-10 th it was not an ERC rally but a round of Makes' Championship!

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

10th August 2011, 10:13

Kalendar ERC - 1968 :1/Monte Carlo, 2/Dei Fiori, 3/Pnemant, 4/Tulpen, 5/Wisbaden, 6/Acropolis, 7/Vltava, 8/Danube, 9/Geneve, 10/Raid Polski, 11/1000 lakes . Is this true?

januszsz

10th August 2011, 10:23

Kalendar ERC - 1968 :1/Monte Carlo, 2/Dei Fiori, 3/Pnemant, 4/Tulpen, 5/Wisbaden, 6/Acropolis, 7/Vltava, 8/Danube, 9/Geneve, 10/Raid Polski, 11/1000 lakes . Is this true?

According to my database ERC'68 was:

1968 20-27.01 Monte Carlo MC
1968 04-07.04 Pneumant DDR
1968 02-05.05 Wiesbaden D
1968 30.05-04.06 Akropolis GR
1968 17-20.08 Danube RO
1968 16-18.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1968 17-20.10 Geneve CH

Makes' Championship '68 was:
KAK Swedish
Dei Fiori
Tulpen
Alpenfahrt
Vltava
Polski
RACE
RAC

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

10th August 2011, 12:04

Thanks,Janusz.A kalendar ERC - 1967 .

januszsz

10th August 2011, 12:54

Calendar ERC - 1967
1967 14-21.01 Monte Carlo MC
1967 08-13.02 Svenska S
1967 20-23.02 Dei Fiori I
1967 16-19.03 Deutschland D
1967 07-09.04 Pneumant DDR
1967 24-30.04 Tulpen NL
1967 10-14.05 Alpenfahrt A
1967 25-28.05 Akropolis GR
1967 15-18.06 Geneve CH
1967 06-09-07 Vltava CS
1967 19-22.07 Danube RO
1967 02-05.08 Polski PL
1967 18-20.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1967 04-09.09 Coupe des Alpes F
1967 21-24.09 R.A.C.E. E
1967 05-08.10 München-Wienna-Budapest D/A/H

regards
Janusz

stanislav197

10th August 2011, 14:26

DIMI44

10th August 2011, 14:43

Thanks,Janusz . Help me for results ERC - 1967 :1/ Monte Carlo - 7 th ,2/Svenska - 10 th ,5/Pneumant -4-10 th ,7/Alpenfahrt - 3 th end 6-10 th ,8/ Akropolis - 5-6 th end 8 th ,11/Danube - 3 th end 6-8 th ,14/Coupe des Alpes - 8 th end 10 th ,15/RACE - 6-7 th ,16/München-Wienna-Budapest - 3,5,8,10 th .

RALLY ACROPOLIS 1967
5.No 33. Pesmazoglou john / "Thor" OPEL 1900
6.No 67 Halm R. / Wirtanen A. DATSUN 1600 SSS
7.No 75 Lainen H. / Jarvi A. DATSUN 1600 SSS
8.No 18 Larson R. / Jonrup K. VOLVO 122 S

januszsz

10th August 2011, 15:10

RALLY ACROPOLIS 1967
5.No 33. Pesmazoglou john / "Thor" OPEL 1900
6.No 67 Halm R. / Wirtanen A. DATSUN 1600 SSS
7.No 75 Lainen H. / Jarvi A. DATSUN 1600 SSS
8.No 18 Larson R. / Jonrup K. VOLVO 122 S
Hi Dimi,
Do you have more start numbers from that rally? Maybe you have a start list? May you share it with me?
Regards
Janusz

januszsz

10th August 2011, 15:16

s ERC - 1967 :
1/ Monte Carlo - 7 th ,
07 Jean-Francois Piot F Michel Karaky F Renault 8 Gordini

2/Svenska - 10 th ,
10 Anders Gullberg S Leif Wahlin S Opel Rekord

5/Pneumant -4-10 th ,
04 Kenneth Gram Nielsen DK M. Sörensen DK Austin Mini Cooper
05 Hans Ullmann DDR Werner Lange DDR Trabant 601
06 Antoni Weiner PL Jan Karel PL Steyr-Puch 650TR
07 Hans Beck D H. Heuser D Opel Kadett
08 Dieter Lambart D Hans Vogt D Opel Kadett
09 Jan Lander Andersen DK Nielsen DK Fiat 1500
10 Henryk Ruciński PL Adam Wędrychowski PL Volkswagen 1600

7/Alpenfahrt - 3 th end 6-10 th ,
03 Richard Bochnicek A Günter Pfisterer A Citroën DS 21
06 Rudolf Gustav Schachinger A Manfred Stephany A Volvo 122 S
07 Walter Roser A B. Andreiu/Andrieu? A? Renault 8 Gordini
08 Arne Hallgren S Stig Eriksson S Saab 96 V4
09 Heinz Weiner A Judith Loos A Citroën DS 21
10 Alois Wiener A Antonie Wiener A Glas 1304 GT

8/ Akropolis - 5-6 th and 8 th ,
you got it from Dimi

11/Danube - 3 th and 6-8 th ,
03 Günther Wallrabenstein D W. Bretthauer D Porsche 911L
06 G. Tusch A Georg Hopf A Renault 8 Gordini
07 Dr Joachim Springer D Dr Günther Brendel D BMW 1600-2
08 Egon Wittig A Harald Gottlieb A Alfa Romeo 1300

14/Coupe des Alpes - 8 th and 10 th ,
08 Jacques Rey F "Fanfan" F Porsche 911S
10 Rosemary Smith IRL Margaret Lowrey GB Sunbeam Imp

15/RACE - 6-7 th ,
06 José Maria Juncadella E S. Molist E BMC Mini Cooper S
07 Jorge de Bagration E J. Barcenas E Lancia Fulvia HF 1.3

16/München-Wienna-Budapest - 3,5,8,10 th
03 Klaus Reisch A Helmut Schwab A MG B
05 Walter Roser A Peter Jäckl A Renault 8 Gordini
08 Gernot Fischer A Queissner A MG B
10 Egon Wittig A Harald Gottlieb A Alfa Romeo GTA

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

10th August 2011, 16:26

Janusz ,DID YOU FIRST NAME - Larson Rune / Jonrup K. ? .which country team - Halm Rain / Wirtanen Aymo .

januszsz

10th August 2011, 19:04

Janusz ,DID YOU FIRST NAME - Larson Rune / Jonrup K. ? .which country team - Halm Rain / Wirtanen Aymo .
Akropolis 1967
05 Johnny Pesmazoglou GR "Thor" GR Opel Rekord
06 Raimo Halm FIN Aimo Wirtanen FIN Datsun 1600SSS
07 Hans Laine FIN Anssi Järvi FIN Datsun 1600SSS
08 Rune Larsson S Kjell Ehrman S Volvo 122 S - I have here Kjell Ehrman not K. Jonrup, probably Dimi knows better (?)

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

10th August 2011, 20:14

Thanks.Janusz .Help me for ERC - 1966 :2/Sweden - 6-10 th ;3/Dei Fiori - 2,7,9,10 th ;4/Tulpen - 6,8 th ;5/Alpenfahrt - 2-10 th ;6/Akropolis - 6,9 th ;7/Geneve - 8-10 th ;8/Vltava - 10 th ;9/Wisbaden - 3 th and 6-10 th ;11/1000 lakes -4 th ;13/München-Wienna-Budapest - 7 th ;Final Championship standings - 1. Zasada ;2-10 th ??

januszsz

10th August 2011, 20:34

ERC - 1966 :
2/Sweden - 6-10 th ;
06 Arne Hallgren S Egon Forslund S Saab 96
07 Olof Karlberg S Sven Simonsson S Volvo 122S
08 Hans Lundh S Björn Wahlgren S Saab 96 Sport
09 Curt Johansson S Roland Aanöstam S Volkswagen 1600TL
10 Vic Elford GB John Davenport GB Ford Cortina Lotus

3/Dei Fiori - 2,7,9,10 th ;
02 Günther Klass D Robert Buchet F Porsche 911
07 Giovanni Vacca I Walter Cordaro I Renault 8 Gordini
09 Dieter Lambart D H. Heinrich D Opel Kadett
10 Alberto Girardini I Gianfranco Briani I Lancia Fulvia Coupé HF

4/Tulpen - 6,8 th ;
06 Gijs van Lennep NL David van Lennep NL Porsche 911
08 Nicolas Koob L Armand Wies L BMW 1800 TI

5/Alpenfahrt - 2-10 th ;
02 Günther Wallrabenstein D Ernst Otto Müller D Porsche 911
03 Alfred Burkhardt D Otto Koch-Bodes D Ford Taunus 20MTS
04 Klaus Joachim/ H.? Kleint D Günter Klapproth D Ford Taunus 17M
05 E. Buchbauer Geri Brandstetter Renault 8 Gordini
06 Vaclav Bobek jr CS Vojtech Rieger CS Skoda Octavia Super?
07 Helmut Klomfart A Ernst Marquart A Volvo 122 S
08 Gernot Fischer A Franz Mauerhofer A MG B
09 Loisl Wiener A Antonie Wiener A Glas 1300 GT
10 Carl Christian Schindler A co-driver not known Sunbeam Tiger?

6/Akropolis - 6,9 th ;
06 Peter Harper GB Robin Turvey?Ian Hall? GB Sunbeam Tiger
09 Joginder Singh EAK Jan-Erik Virgin S Volvo Amazon 122 S

7/Geneve - 8-10 th ;
08? Patrick Lier CH Formige Hillman IMP
09 K. Ramu C. Maurice Alfa Romeo GTA
10 Georges Theiler E. Bechtel BMC Mini Cooper

8/Vltava - 10 th ;
10 Dieter Lambart D W. Zink D Opel Kadett Coupé

9/Wiesbaden - 3 th and 6-10 th ;
03 Dr Joachim Springer D J. Schey D BMW 2000TI
06 Th. Klinck D Menehem D Glas 1300 GT
07 H. Leidl D Ulrich Hering D Steyr Puch 650 TR
08 P. Röder D Paul?? Schutz D NSU ****el Spider
09 Hans Supper D Sutter D Glas 1304 TS
10 R. Lieb D Buchrich D Porsche 911

11/1000 lakes -4 th ;
04 Risto Virtapuro FIN Alfons Strengell FIN 87 Volvo 122 S

13/München-Wienna-Budapest - 7 th ;
07 M. Füss A. Wendlinger Porsche 911

Final Championship standings - 1. Zasada ;2-10 th ?? - it was not so easy. There were 3 champions of Europe in group 1, 2 and 3:
Gr 1: 1. Lillebror Nasenius (S) 2. 3.
Opel
Gr 2: 1. Sobiesław Zasada (PL) 2. Timo Mäkinen (FIN) 3. 1. Sobiesław Zasada (PL)
Steyr-Puch BMC Steyr-Puch
Gr 3: 1. Günter Klass (D) 2. 3.
Porsche

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

11th August 2011, 08:29

Thanks,Janusz .Help me for ERC - 1965 :2/Dei Fiori - 1-10 th ;3/Sweden - 7 th and 10 th ;4/Lion-Sharbonier - 2-10 th ;5/RACE - 2 th and 9 th ;7/Akropolis - 8 th ;8/Alpenfahrt - 2-10 th ;10/Vltava -10 th ;13/1000 lakes - 9-10 th ;14/München-Wienna-Budapest - 2,5,10 th .

januszsz

11th August 2011, 11:32

ERC - 1965 :
2/Dei Fiori - 1-10 th ;
01 Leo Cella I Sergio Gamenara I Lancia Fulvia Berlina
02 Luigi Taramazzo I Romano Ramoino I Lancia Flavia Coupé
03 Berndt Jansson S Gunnar Liljedahl S Renault 8 Gordini
04 Giorgio Pianta I Carlo Scarambone I Lancia Flavia Zagato
05 Giampiero Raffa I Angelo Del Monte I Lancia Fulvia Berlina
06 Sylvia Österberg S Siw Sabel S Volvo Amazon 122S
07 Georges Nicolas F Martial Delalande? Latrandie F Renault 8 Gordini
08 Zeffirino Filippi I Aristide Panzironi I Lancia Flavia Sport
09 Enzo Martoni I Monti I Lancia Fulvia Berlina
10 Dino Morazzoni I Mona I Lancia Fulvia

3/Sweden - 7 th and 10 th ;
Bertil Söderström S Rune Olsson S Opel Rekord
10 Hans Lannsjö S Hans Sundin S BMC Mini Cooper S

4/Lyon-Charbonierres - 2-10 th ; It was not an ERC rally

5/RACE - 2 th and 9 th ;
02 Estanislao Reverter E José Marquez E Fiat Abarth 1000 TC
09 Armando Cifuentes E co-driver not known Ford Cortina

7/Akropolis - 8 th ;
08 Giorgio Pianta I Roberto Della Morte I Lancia Flavia Coupé

8/Alpenfahrt - 2-10 th ; It was not an ERC rally

10/Vltava -10 th ; 10 Antonin Dolejs CS M. Poldaut CS Skoda Octavia Super

13/1000 lakes - 9-10 th ;
09 Keijo Tuominen FIN Jan-Ulf Ingman FIN Volvo PV 544 Sport
10 Klaus Bremer FIN Raimo Hartto FIN Austin Mini Cooper S

14/München-Wienna-Budapest - 2,5,10 th
02 Jean-Jacques Thuner CH Hick Ford Cortina
05 Herbert Kohlweis A D.B. Martelanz A Alfa Romeo
10 H. Füss A. Wendlinger Porsche 356C 1600 SC

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

11th August 2011, 12:03

januszsz

11th August 2011, 13:51

Thanks,Janusz .Help me for ERC - 1964 :2/Dei Fiori - 6-10 th ;4/Akropolis - 2 th and 4-10 th ;5/Alpenfahrt - 2 th and 7-10 th ;6/Sweden - 8 th and 10 th ;7/Coupe des Alpes - 9-10 th ;10/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6,8,9 th ;11/Geneve - 6,8,9 th . ERC - 1964 In 12 rounds there is ?
There were 13 rounds in 1964
1964 17-25.01 Monte Carlo MC
1964 01-03.03 Dei Fiori I
1964 02-07.04 A.C.P. P
1964 20-24.04 Tulpen NL
1964 16-17.05 Akropolis GR
1964 25-28.05 Alpenfahrt A
1964 09-13.06 Midnattssolen S
1964 27-30.06 Coupe des Alpes F/CH/I
1964 01-03.08 Polski PL
1964 13-16.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1964 25-31.08 Spa-Sofia-Liege B
1964 15-18.10 Geneve CH
1964 12-17.11 RAC GB

Results will be later in the evening.

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

11th August 2011, 14:00

And ACP - 1-10 th

DIMI44

11th August 2011, 17:15

Hi Dimi,
Do you have more start numbers from that rally? Maybe you have a start list? May you share it with me?
Regards
Janusz

Only 10 first finishers.
1.No 67 P.HOPKIRK .......etc,etc
2.No 39 O.ANDERSSON.....
3.No 87 B. SODERSTROM.....
4.No 25 A.PILHATCH.....
.......................
9.No17 J.LUNDGREN /L.ERRIKSON Volvo 122S
10.No76 E.SCHMITHELM /W.GALERMEIR Bmw 1600

If you like more details for the first 4 I can tell you.

DIMI44

11th August 2011, 17:33

Thanks,Janusz .Help me for ERC - 1964 :2/Dei Fiori - 6-10 th ;4/Akropolis - 2 th and 4-10 th ;5/Alpenfahrt - 2 th and 7-10 th ;6/Sweden - 8 th and 10 th ;7/Coupe des Alpes - 9-10 th ;10/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6,8,9 th ;11/Geneve - 6,8,9 th . ERC - 1964 In 12 rounds there is ?

Rally Acropolis 1964
2.No 49 J.OGIER (No Sebastien!!!)/V.GROLL Citroen DS19
3.No 84 Mrs P.MOSS /Mrs DOMLEO Saab 96
4.No 8 E.WAXENBERGER / K. KAISER Mercedes 220SE
5.No 38 Mrs E. ROSQVIST / Mrs E.FALK Mercedes 220SE
6.No 42 K.JAMES / J.HUGHES Rover 3.0 L
7.No 3 P.VANSON / I.JOLY Citroen DS19
8.No 62 Mrs B. EHRINGE / Mrs A.LINDQVIST VW 1500s
9.No 40 M.HURST / A.CLARK Rover3.0 L
10.No 30 O. ANDERSSON / A.TORSTEN Saab 96

DIMI44

11th August 2011, 17:55

Akropolis 1967

08 Rune Larsson S Kjell Ehrman S Volvo 122 S - I have here Kjell Ehrman not K. Jonrup, probably Dimi knows better (?)

Regards
Janusz

I have two different books ( one is published by organizers ELPA) and they write the same. K.JONRUP.

Nenad Nikolic

11th August 2011, 21:29

Thanks,Janusz .Help me for ERC - 1964 :2/Dei Fiori - 6-10 th ;4/Akropolis - 2 th and 4-10 th ;5/Alpenfahrt - 2 th and 7-10 th ;6/Sweden - 8 th and 10 th ;7/Coupe des Alpes - 9-10 th ;10/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6,8,9 th ;11/Geneve - 6,8,9 th . ERC - 1964 In 12 rounds there is ?

Spa-Sofia-Liege 25-29.08.1964.

6. No 79 Mrs Rosqvist/Schiek (S/D) Mercedes 2h42m
8. No 70 Sander/Trinon (B/B) Porsche 3h23m
9. No 87 Larsson/Nilsson (S/S) Volkswagen 3h 43m

Regards

januszsz

11th August 2011, 21:56

I have two different books ( one is published by organizers ELPA) and they write the same. K.JONRUP.
Hi Dimi,
Thank you for explanation... and for numbers!

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

11th August 2011, 22:04

Spa-Sofia-Liege 25-29.08.1964.

6. No 79 Mrs Rosqvist/Schiek (S/D) Mercedes 2h42m
8. No 70 Sander/Trinon (B/B) Porsche 3h23m
9. No 87 Larsson/Nilsson (S/S) Volkswagen 3h 43m

Regards

Hi Nenad,
Do you have more numbers from that rally?

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

11th August 2011, 22:10

ERC - 1964 :
2/Dei Fiori - 6-10 th ;
06 Ferdinando Frescobaldi I Bruno Zavagli I Lancia Flavia
07 Luigi Taramazzo I Giancarlo Mamino I Lancia Flavia
08 Arnaldo Cavallari I Piero Bagnasacco I Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Super
09 Enrico Agostini I Leonardo Durst I Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Super
10 Luigi Cabella I Carlo Ghislandi I Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Super

4/Akropolis - 2 th and 4-10 th ; -you got it from Dimi

5/Alpenfahrt - 2 th and 7-10 th ;
02 Johannes Örtner A Huber Thaler A Steyr Puch 650 TR
07 Carl Christian Schindler A Fritz Naber A MG B
08 Georg Kaufmann A Alfred Kling D DKW
09 Ernst Benedikt A Herle A Volvo
10 Willi König A Franz Mauerhofer A Steyr Puch

6/Sweden - 8 th and 10 th ; - original name was Svenska Rallyt Till Midnattssolen
08 Simo Lampinen FIN Picko Troberg S Saab 96 Sport
10 Lennart Eliasson S Gunnar Trygg S BMC Mini Cooper S

7/Coupe des Alpes - 9-10 th ;
09 Terry Hunter GB Patrick Lier CH Triumph Spitfire
10 Jean-Claude Ogier F Lucette Pointet F Citroën DS 19

10/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6,8,9 th ; - you got it from Nenad

11/Geneve - 6,8,9 th
06 Tom Trana S Gunnar Thermaenius S Volvo PV 544
08 Gerard Larrousse F Jean-Claude Peray F Renault Dauphine
09 Jean-Pierre Meyer J.P. Rutsch Ford Cortina GT

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

11th August 2011, 22:13

ACP Rally 1964 - it was something like Automobile Club Portugal Rally - who can precise it, please?

01 Andrea De Adamich I Aldo Morgantini I Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Super
02 Arnaldo Cavallari I Ferdinando Tecilla I Alfa Romeo Giulia TI Super
03 Dieter Glemser D Martin Braungart D Mercedes-Benz 300 SE
04 Eugen Böhringer D Klaus Kaiser D Mercedes-Benz 300 SE
05 Jorge Pessanha P Mascalero P Porsche Carrera SC
06 Alfredo Cesar Torres P Paiva Raposo P Austin Mini Cooper S
07 Rui Martins Silva P Carvalho P Alfa Romeo Zagato
08 Manuel Giao P Fernandes P Austin Mini Cooper S
09 Augusto Palma P Fernando Pinto Basto P Morris Mini Cooper S
10 José Lickfold Silva P Faria P Morris Mini Cooper S

Regards
Janusz

Nenad Nikolic

11th August 2011, 22:40

Yes Janusz, I have completely list of entries from Spa-Sofia-Liege 1964.

FAL

11th August 2011, 22:45

januszsz

12th August 2011, 06:38

Acropolis 64
9 is R.(Richard) Martin-Hurst and I think second crew member A. Clark was Roger(Roger Albert) Clark.

Acropolis 66 was Peter Harper/Ian Hall (Robin Turvey was with Harper on 66 Tulip).

Swedish 66 Are you sure 10th (Elford) was with John Davenport? In his book, Elford says David Stone (but he has other mistakes in his book...!)
Hi FAL,
I also have information that 9th in Akropolis'64 was Richard Martin-Hurst with Roger Clark. Source: The Guinnes Book of Rallying by John Davenport.
Akropolis 50 Years Jubilee book also indicates Ian Hall as a co-driver to Peter Harper, but they placed them in 8th with Zasada 6th and Lundh 7th, The Motor of June 4th 1966 gives as follow (provisional results): 6th Zasada, 7th Harper and 8th Lundh and Autocar of June 10th 1966 gives top 6 with Zasada 6th. I looks I made mistake... (?)
According to Swedish'66 my only source was Peter Haventon's book (~Ful fahrt over Sverige) and there I found Elford/Davenport.
Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

12th August 2011, 12:08

What are rounds erc - 1963 .

januszsz

12th August 2011, 12:16

What are rounds erc - 1963 .

1963 19-26.01 Monte Carlo MC
1963 07-11.04 Tulpen NL
1963 16-19.05 Akropolis GR
1963 20-26.06 Coupe des Alpes F/CH/I
1963 12-16.06 Midnattssolen S
1963 04-07.07 Deutschland D
1963 16-18.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1963 27-31.08 Liege-Sofia-Liege B
1963 27.09 Sardegna I
1963 04-06.10 Geneve CH
1963 10-16.11 RAC GB

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

12th August 2011, 12:36

Thanks,Janusz . Help me ERC - 1964 :2/Tulpen - 4,6,10 th ;3/Akropolis - 7-10 th ;4/Coupe des Alpes - 9 th ;5/Midnattssolen - 6-10 th ;6/Deutschland - 6-10 th ;7/1000 lakes - 1-10 th ;8/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6-10 th ;9/Sardegna - 6-10 th ;10/Geneve - 9-10 th .

januszsz

12th August 2011, 14:41

ERC - 1963 :
2/Tulpen - 4,6,10 th ;
04 Bert?? Bakker NL Heinz Umbach NL Porsche Carrera S 90
06 E.H. Swart NL Roberto Fusina I Fiat 1300
10 André Guilhaudin F Henri? Balas F DKW F11

3/Akropolis - 7-10 th ;
07 Pauli Toivonen FIN Väinö Nurmimaa FIN Citroën DS 19
08 René Trautmann F Jean-Claude Ogier F Citroën DS 19
09 Guy Verrier F Jacques Badoche F Citroën DS 19
10 Sylvia Österberg S Inga-Lill Edenring S Volvo 122 S 2d

4/Coupe des Alpes - 9 th ;
09 George Nicolas F Laguil F Renault Dauphine

5/Midnattssolen - 6-10 th ;
06 Carl-Magnus Skogh S Lennart Berggren S Volvo 122 S
07 Carl Orrenius S Rolf Dahlgren S BMC Mini Cooper
08 Ake Andersson S Gunnar Lindén S Saab 96
09 Bengt Söderström S Bo Olsson S Volvo PV544
10 Rauno Aaltonen FIN Rolf Skogh S Chrysler Valiant

6/Deutschland - 6-10 th ;
06 Georg Kaufmann A Alfred Kling D DKW Junior
07 Wolfgang Knöppel/Köppel D M. Knöppel/Köppel D BMW
08 Helmut Kelleners D Ferdi Bökman D Fiat
09 Reiner Brechler D M. Brechler D Volvo
10 Sylvia Österberg S Inga-Lill Edenring S Volvo 122 S

7/1000 lakes - 1-10 th ;
01 Simo Lampinen FIN Jyrki Ahava FIN Saab 96 Sport
02 Tom Trana S Gunnar Andersson S Volvo PV 544
03 Rauno Aaltonen FIN Väinö Nurmimaa FIN Saab 96 Sport
04 Berndt Jansson S Erik Pettersson S Volkswagen 1500
05 Olle Bromark S Kjell Lyxell S Saab 96 Sport
06 Bengt Söderström S Bo Olsson S Volvo
07 Rune Larsson S Börje Nilsson S Volkswagen 1500
08 Bertil Söderström S Rune Olsson S Volkswagen 1200
09 Timo Mäkinen FIN Kauko Ruutsalo FIN Morris Cooper
10 Olli Pekka Paroma FIN Veikko Villilä FIN Morris Cooper

8/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6-10 th ;
06 Paddy Hopkirk GB Henry Liddon GB Austin Healey 3000
07 Jean Guichet F Paul Coltelloni F Citroën DS 19
08 Ken James GB Mike Hughes GB Rover
09 Peter Riley GB Tony Nash GB Ford Cortina
10 Olivier Gendebien B Jean Demortier B Citroën DS 19

9/Sardegna - 6-10 th ;
06 Armeno Degli Innocenti I F. De Benedictis I Abarth 850 TC
07 Piero Bagnasacco I Bonomi I Volvo PV 544
08 Sergio Lipizer I Ugo De Giorgio I Abarth 850 TC
09 Walter Cordaro I B. Melis I Alfa Romeo Giulietta
10 Alessandro Scorcinelli I Binaghi I Morris Mini Cooper

10/Geneve - 9-10 th .
Henri Ziegler CH Malou Racle CH Austin Mini Cooper
Bernard Mauris Guy Grasso Ford Cortina

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

12th August 2011, 15:23

jANUSZ , Had a unique INFORMATION .Thank .What are rounds erc - 1962

januszsz

12th August 2011, 17:45

jANUSZ , Had a unique INFORMATION .Thank .What are rounds erc - 1962
1962 20-25.01 Monte Carlo MC
1962 07-12.05 Tulpen NL
1962 24-27.05 Akropolis GR
1962 09-13.06 Coupe des Alpes F/I
1962 12-16.06 Midnattssolen S
1962 02-05.08 Polski PL
1962 17-19.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1962 29.08-02.09 Liege-Sofia-Liege B
1962 27-30.09 Deutschland D
1962 19-20.10 Geneve CH
1962 12-17.11 RAC GB

regards
Janusz

stanislav197

12th August 2011, 17:56

Thanks ,Janusz . Help me ERC - 1962 : 2/Tulpen - 5,6,8,10 th ;3/ kropolis - 5-10 th ;4/Coupe des Alpes - 7-10 th ;10/Midnattssolen - 10 th ;7/1000 lakes - 5,7,8,10 th ;8/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 3 th and 7-10 th ;9/Deutschland - 5-10 th ;10 /Geneve - 7 th and 10 th ;10/RAC -

stanislav197

12th August 2011, 19:09

10/RAC - 7 th and 10 th .

DIMI44

13th August 2011, 02:19

RALLY ACROPOLIS 1962

5. Νο 28 K. HARRIS / P.ICKX Mercedes 220.SE
6. No 41 G. ANERSSON /B.KARLSSON Volvo 544
7. No 33 R.NEYRET /I.TERRAMORSI Citroen DS 19
8. No 9 Mrs PAT MOSS /Mrs MAYMAN Austin Healey
9. No 83 Mrs A. HALL /Mrs DOMLEO Ford Anglia
10.No 17 H.TEYLOR /B.MELIA Ford Angia
And one more,bonus from me!!! lol
11. No 63 STEFANOS ZANNOS / "CAMPANI" (DIMITRIS KODOUNIS) Sunbeam Rapier

For Janus lol
1.No 31 BOHRINGER
2.No 97 CARLSSON
3.No 47 TRAUTMAN
4.No 12 WALTER

Do you like also numbers from Acropolis 63 (first 10 as usual)?
1.41 BOHRINGER
2.51 ANDERSSON
3.65 SKOGH
4.89 TEYLOR
5.37 GLEMSER
6.75 MOSS
7.69 TOIVONEN
8.55 TRAUTMAN
9.59 VERRIER
10.53 OSTBERG

januszsz

13th August 2011, 08:47

januszsz

13th August 2011, 08:54

ERC - 1962 :
2/Tulpen - 5,6,8,10 th ;
05 J. Meur B P. Rousselle B Porsche Carrera S90
06 David Gray GB S. Actham GB Porsche Carrera S90
08 Tony Fisher GB Brian Melia GB Morris Mini Cooper
10 Jens Nielsen DK Henning Henriksen DK Alfa Romeo

3/ Akropolis - 5-10 th ; -You got it from Dimi

4/Coupe des Alpes - 7-10 th ;
07 Guy Verrier F Jacques Badoche F Citroën DS 19
08 David Seigle-Morris GB Tony Ambrose GB Austin-Healey 3000
09 Jean-Jacques Thuner CH Jean Gretener CH Triumph TR4
10 Jean Cazon F Maurice Billard F BMW 700

10/Midnattssolen - 10 th ;
10 Bertram Englund S Bernt Jansson S Volvo PV544

7/1000 lakes - 5,7,8,10 th ;
05 Bertil Söderström S Rune Olsson S Volkswagen 1500 S
07 Rune Larsson S Börje Nilsson S Volkswagen 1500 S
08 Nils-Olof Eklundh FIN Mauri Laakso FIN Skoda TS
10 Harry Bengtsson S Rolf Dahlgren S Porsche

8/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 3 th and 7-10 th ;
03 Jacques Patte B Patrick Freddy Rousselle B Volvo
07 Claudine Buchet F Alessandra Kissell F Citroën ID 19
08 David Seigle-Morris GB Barry Hercock GB Austin Healey 3000
09 Jean-Jacques Thuner CH Jean Gretener CH Triumph TR4
10 Francis Charlier B Nicolas Mosbeaux B Ford Anglia

9/Deutschland - 5-10 th ;
05 Rudolf Smoliner A Karl Auer A Citroën ID 19
06 Arnaldo Cavallari I Giuseppe Simonetta I Alfa Romeo TI
07 Erik Carlsson S Gunnar Häggbom S Saab 96
08 Hans Wehner D Heinrich von Schweinichen D Volkswagen Special
09 Jürgen Zink D Peter Erb D BMW 700
10 Walter Cordaro I Ferdinando Tecilla I Alfa Romeo TI

10 /Geneve - 7 th and 10 th ;
07 Kreft D Fleck D Jaguar Mk II 3.8
10 Roger? Meunier CH Grosrey CH Jaguar

10/RAC - 7th and 10th
07 Timo Mäkinen FIN John Steadman GB Morris Mini Cooper
10 Sylvia Österberg S Cecile Pattison GB Volvo 122 S

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

13th August 2011, 11:06

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds erc - 1961 .

januszsz

13th August 2011, 12:32

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds erc - 1961 .
1961 21-28.01 Monte Carlo MC
1961 02-06.05 Tulpen NL
1961 19-21.05 Akropolis GR
1961 27-29.05 Mille Miglia I
1961 12-17.06 Midnattssolen S
1961 26-29.06 Coupe des Alpes F/I/CH
1961 02-05.08 Polski PL
1961 18-20.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1961 30.08-03.09 Liege-Sofia-Liege B
1961 27.09-01.10 Deutschland D
1961 13-18.11 RAC GB

regrards
Janusz

stanislav197

13th August 2011, 12:52

Thanks,Janusz .Help me ERC - 1961 :1/Monte Carlo - 8 th ;2/Tulpen - 7-10 th ;3/Akropolis - 7-10 th ;4/Mille Miglia - 2-10 th ;5/Midnattssolen - 5-10 th ;6/Coupe des Alpes - 4 th and 7-10 th ;8/1000 lakes - 10 th ;9/Liege-? ROMA ( or Sofia)-Liege - 7-10 th ;10/Deutschland - 5-10 th ;11/ RAC - 7-10 th .

januszsz

13th August 2011, 19:13

ERC - 1961 :
1/Monte Carlo - 8 th ;
08 José Behra F Jean Berger F NSU 600

2/Tulpen - 7-10 th ;
07 J. Roestenburg NL Margaret MacKenzzie GB Auto Union 1000
08 Tommy Gold GB Michael Hughes GB Austin Healey Sprite
09 Jacques Rey F Georges Burggraf F Alfa Romeo Giulietta
10 H. L. Steunebrink NL Klaas Barendregt NL Jaguar 3.8

3/Akropolis - 7-10 th ;
07 Ewy Rosqvist S Ramona Wallraf S Volvo PV 544
08 Klaus Block D Herbert Paul D BMW 700S
09 Jimmy Ray GB Ian Hall GB Sunbeam Rapier
10 Ian Lewis GB Tony Nash GB Triumph TR3

4/Mille Miglia - 2-10 th ;
02 Giulio Cabianca I Piergiorgio Provolo I Lancia Flamina Zagato
03 Cacciari I Sala I Ferari 250 GT
04 Albino Buticchi I N. Camili I Porsche Abarth
05 Hans Joachim Walter D Paul Ernst Strähle D Porsche Abarth
06 Gianfranco Bonetto I Pellizzaro I Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ
07 Rinaldo Parmiggiani I Razzuoli I Alfa Romeo Giulietta SZ
08 Armando Zampiero I Corona I Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Veloce
09 Piero Frescobaldi I Sama Appia I
10 Hans/Erwin? Bauer I Zanotti Alfa Romeo Giulieta Zagato

5/Midnattssolen - 5-10 th ;
05 Gunnar Andersson S Hans Lundin S Volvo PV544
06 Berndt Jansson S Erik Pettersson S Volkswagen 1200
07 René Trautmann F Jean-Claude Ogier F Citroën ID 19
08 Harry Bengtsson S Hans Joachim Walter D Porsche 1600
09 Olle Bromark S Kjell Lyxell S Saab 96
10 Evert Christoffersson S Karl-Erik Andersson S Volvo PV544

6/Coupe des Alpes - 4 th and 7-10 th ;
04 Henri Greder F J. Charron F Alpine-Renault
07 Keith Ballisat GB Ian Lewis GB Sunbeam Rapier
08 Christian Poirot F Hugues Hazard F Porsche Carrera
09 Lucien Bianchi B George Harris B Citroën DS 19
10 R. Campuzan F L. Delalande F Porsche Carrera

8/1000 lakes - 10 th ;
10 Sven-Erik Holm S "Ingen Vidare" S Austin 850

9/Marathon de la Route Liege-Sofia-Liege - 7-10 th ;- just only 8 finishers
07 Francis Charlier B Jowat B Ford Anglia
08 David Lead EAK Jim Cardwell EAK Mercedes-Benz 220SE

10/Deutschland - 5-10 th ;
05 Gerhart Greil A Georg Kaufmann A DKW Junior F11
06 Peter Ruby D "Max Moritz" D DKW Junior F11
07 Dr Ernst Pflugbeil D Karl-Heinz Panowitz D Porsche Carrera
08 René Trautmann F Claudine Vanson F Citroën ID 19
09 Lois John D Lothar Kohler D Porsche 1500 GS
10 Ewald Pauli D Heinz Wülfl D Auto Union 1000

11/ RAC - 7-10 th
07 Jimmy Ray GB John Hopwood GB 30 Austin Seven
08 Anne Hall GB Valerie Domleo GB 20 Ford Anglia
09 Henry Taylor GB Phil Crabtree GB 17 Ford
10 Derrick/Derek Astle GB Peter Roberts GB 31 MG Midget

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

13th August 2011, 20:31

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds ERC -1960 .

januszsz

14th August 2011, 09:11

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds ERC -1960 .
1960 18-25.01 Monte Carlo MC
1960 07-10.04 Geneve CH
1960 02-07.05 Tulpen NL
1960 19-22.05 Akropolis GR
1960 24-30.06 Coupe des Alpes F/I/CH
1960 15-19.07 Midnattssolen S
1960 19-21.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1960 08-12.09 Polski PL
1960 25-30.08 Liege-Rome-Liege B
1960 28.09-02.10 Deutschland D
1960 21-26.11 RAC GB

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

14th August 2011, 09:32

Thanks,Janusz.Help me ERC - 1960 :1/Monte Carlo - 5 th ;2/Geneve - 7 th and 10 th ;3/Tulpen - 7,9,10 th ;4/Akropolis - 6-10 th ;5/Coupe des Alpes - 7,10 th ;6/Midnattssolen - 5-10 th ;7/1000 lakes -1-10 th ;9/Liege-Roma-Liege - 2,4 th ;10/Deutschland - 3 th and 6-10 th ;11/RAC - 4-10 th .

januszsz

14th August 2011, 16:35

ERC - 1960 :
1/Monte Carlo - 5 th ;
05 Willem Jan Tak NL Johan Swaab NL Mercedes Benz 220 SE

2/Geneve - 7 th and 10 th ;
07 Siegfried Eikelmann D Hermann Kühne D Auto Union 1000
10 Gunnar Andersson S "Jag" D Volvo PV 544

3/Tulpen - 7,9,10 th ; - four crews in 9th equal on points
07 Harry Bengtsson S S. Lindström S Porsche 1600 S
09= Eric Haddon GB Frederick Vivian GB Jaguar XK 150S
09= John Boardman GB J.W. Whitworth GB Jaguar 3.8
09= Gunnar Andersson S B. Martensson S Volvo PV 544
09= Siegfried Eikelmann D Hermann Kühne D Auto Union 1000

4/Akropolis - 6-10 th ;
06 Gunnar Andersson S "Jag" D Volvo PV 544
07 Leopold von Zedlitz D Wolfgang Diemer D Mercedes Benz 220 SE
08 Helmut Busch D Zimmermann/Otto Linzenburg? D 7 Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1600
09 Herbert Blanchoud MC Robert? Berger F Saab 93
10 Graf von Westerholt D Joachim Kühling D Jaguar 3,4

5/Coupe des Alpes - 7,10 th ;
07 Henri Oreiller F Fernand Masoero F Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Zagato
10 Paddy Hopkirk IRL Jack Scott GB Sunbeam Rapier

6/Midnattssolen - 5-10 th ;
05 Hans Ingier N Torbjörn Berntsen N Volvo PV 544
06 Bengt Söderström S Bo Olsson S Volkswagen 1200
07 Erik Berger S Billy Skoglöf S Fiat 2300
08 Berndt Jansson S Arne Mars S Volkswagen 1200
09 Rune Larsson S Bror Hultgren S Volkswagen 1200
10 Henry Karlsson S Hans Lundin S DKW Auto Union 1000

7/1000 lakes -1-10 th ;
01 Carl-Otto Bremer FIN Juhani Lampi FIN Saab 96
02 Erik Carlsson S Lennart Simonsson S Saab 96
03 Carl Magnus Skogh S Rolf Skogh S Saab 96
04 Gunnar Andersson S Bo Hellberg S Volvo PV 544
05 Harry Bengtsson S Aake Righard S Volkswagen 1200
06 Aake Thambert S Gunnar Häggbom S Ford Anglia
07 Rauno Aaltonen FIN Pentti Siutla FIN Mercedes-Benz 220 SE
08 Rune Larsson S Rolf Borg S Volkswagen 1200
09 René Trautmann F Jean-Claude Ogier F Citroën ID 19
10 Jorma Oksanen FIN Pentti Suhonen FIN Saab 96

9/Liege-Roma-Liege - 2,4 th ;
02 Guy Sander B Willy Sander B Porsche 1600
04 Christian Poirot F Dr Guillemin Porsche 1582ccm

10/Deutschland - 3 th and 6-10 th ;
03 Rolf Kredel D Rolf Knoll D Mercedes-Benz 220SE
06 Egon Evertz D Manfred Kierdorf D Auto Union 1000
07 Klaus Block D Herbert Paul D BMW 700
08 David Seigle-Morris GB Stuart Turner GB Austin-Healey 3000
09 Ewy Rosqvist S Anita Borg S Volvo PV 544
10 Helmut Maisch D Gerhard Pfefferle D Mercedes-Benz 190 B

11/RAC - 4-10 th
04 P.J. Berry GB Jack Sears / Willy Cave GB Jaguar 3.8
05 John Wallwork GB Harold Brooks GB Volvo PV 544
06 Ian Lewis GB G.S. Shephard GB Triumph Herald
07 David Seigle-Morris GB Vic Elford GB Morris Mini 850
08 Geoff Crabtree GB Saville Wooley GB Ford Anglia/Zephyr
09 Anne Hall GB Valerie Domleo GB Ford Anglia/Zephyr
10 Michael Sutcliffe GB Derrick Astle GB Morris Mini 850

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

14th August 2011, 19:21

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds ERC - 1959 .

januszsz

14th August 2011, 20:10

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds ERC - 1959 .
1959 18-24.01 Monte Carlo MC
1959 23-26.02 Sestriere I
1959 27.04-02.05 Tulpen NL
1959 28-31.05 Akropolis GR
1959 09-13.06 Midnattssolen S
1959 24.06-06.07 Coupe des Alpes F/I/A
1959 22-26.06 Adriatic YU
1959 14-16.08 1000 Lakes FIN
1959 02-06.09 Liege-Rome-Liege B
1959 18-21.09 Vikings N
1959 01-03.10 Deutschland D
1959 17-21.11 RAC GB
1959 03-06.12 Portugal P

Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

14th August 2011, 21:49

stanislav197

15th August 2011, 20:13

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds ERC - 1958.

sednem

17th August 2011, 15:38

ACP Rally 1964 - it was something like Automobile Club Portugal Rally -

In deed: 11º Rali Internacional do ACP (ACP means Automóvel Club de Portugal)

regards Américo.

sednem

17th August 2011, 15:43

help me for result ERC - 1959 :1/Monte Carlo - 3 th ;2/Sestriere - 4-10 th ;3/Tulpen - 2 th and 6-10 th ;4/Akropolis - 7-10 th ;6/Coupe des Alpes - 8-10 th ;7/Adriatic - 4-10 th ;8/1000 lakes - 2 th ;9/Liege-Roma-Liege - 1-10 th ;10/Vikings - 3-9 th ;11/Deutschland - 4-10 th ;12/RAC - 2 th and 6-10 th ;13/Portugal - 1-10 th .

Here's what I have...
Monte Carlo
3. #??? Pierre Surles (FRA)/Jacques Piniers (FRA) - DB-Panhard - 478 pts
Sestrière
4. #??? Renato Canaparo (ITA)/??? Marsoglio (ITA) - Fiat 8V -
5. #??? Erwin? Bauer (???)/??? Ferrero (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -
6. #??? Arturo Bertoglio (ITA)/Alex Soler-Roig (ESP) - Alfa Romeo -
7. #??? Girolama Capra (ITA)/??? Pilone (ITA) - -
8. #??? Giancarlo Sala (ITA)/??? Ubaldi (ITA) - Fiat -
9. #710 Wolfgang Levy (DEU)/Hans Wencher (DEU) - DKW F91 3-6 -
10. #??? Luciano Fontana (ITA)/Angela Zuppini Fontana (ITA) - -
Tulipas (only top5)
2. #??? Keith Ballisat (GBR)/E. Marvin (???) - Triumph TR3A -
Acropolis Rally
7. #??? "Lailaps" (???)/«Thor» (???) - Volvo -
8. #??? Paul Coltelloni (FRA)/Claude Desrosiers (FRA) - Citroen ID 19 -
9. #??? Annie Soisbault (FRA)/Renée Wagner (FRA) - Triumph TR3 -
10. #??? Kurt Rüdiger (GDR)/Willi Wöllner (GDR) - Wartburg 311 -
Coupe des Alpes
8. #??? Edward Harrison (GBR)/J. William Fleetwood (GBR) - Ford Zephyr Six -
9. #??? Tiny Lewis (GBR)/Tony Nash (GBR) - Triumph Herald -
10. #??? Maus Gatsonides (NLD)/H. Steunebrink (NLD) - Jaguar -
Adriatico
4. #??? Robert Gentelini (FRA)/Mme Gentilini (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTi -
5. #??? Milivoje Vukovic (YUG)/??? Picek (YUG) - Auto Union 1000S -
6. #??? Wolfgang Levy (DEU)/Otto Linzenburg (DEU) - Auto Union 1000S -
7. #??? Wojciech Schramm (POL)/??? Maurer (???) - Volvo -
8. #??? Arnulf Pilhatsch (AUT)/Hans Hartinger (AUT) - BMW 600 -
9. #??? Horst Frischkorn (DEU)/Günter Pause (DEU) - NSU Prinz -
10. #??? Carl Syberg (DNK)/Steffen Nielsen (DNK) - Volvo PV544 -
1000 Lagos
2. #??? Hans Ingier (NOR)/Thorbjørn Berntsen (NOR) - Volvo -
18º Marathon de la Route/Liège Roma Liège
1. #27 Robert Buchet (FRA)/Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU) - Porsche 356 Carrera -
2. #??? Guy Monraisse (FRA)/Jacques Feret (FRA) - Renault Dauphine -
3. #22 Willy Mairesse (BEL)/Maurice Desse (FRA) - Renault Dauphine -
4. #??? Jean-Pierre Estager (FRA)/Robert Dutoit (FRA) - Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1600GS -
5. #??? Guy Sander (BEL)/Willy Sander (BEL) - Porsche 356A 1600S -
6. #??? Annie Soisbault (FRA)/Renée Wagner (FRA) - Triumph TR3 -
7. #??? Kurt Schöttler (DEU)/??? Räker (???) - Porsche 356 Coupé 1500S -
8. #??? Keith Ballisat (GBR)/Alain Bertaut (FRA) - Triumph TR3 -
9. #84 Peter Riley (GBR)/Rupert Jones (GBR) - Austin Healey 3000 -
10. #??? John Sprinzel (GBR)/Stuart Turner (GBR) - Austin Healey Sprite -
Viking
3. #??? Nils Fredrik Grøndahl (NOR)/Knut Solberg (NOR) - Volvo PV544 Sport -
4. #??? Aatos Wassman (FIN)/Rainer Eklund (FIN) - Skoda Octavia -
5. #??? Olle Bromark (SWE)/Kjell Lycksell (SWE) - Saab 93B -
6. #??? Nils Eklundh (FIN)/Asko Ruuskanen (FIN) - Skoda 445 -
7. #??? Edward Gjølberg (NOR)/Jan Erik Martinsen (NOR) - Skoda 445 -
8. #??? Carsten Johansson (NOR)/Helge Mikkelsen (NOR) - Volkswagen -
9. #??? Arve Andersen (NOR)/Walter Schjølberg (NOR) - Volvo PV544 -
10. #??? Gunnar Callbo (SWE)/Sigurd Høglund (SWE) - Volvo PV544 -
Wiesbaden Rally Deutschland (Only top5)
4. #??? William Dodd (???)/D.L. Delling (???) - Volvo PV444 -
5. #??? Heinz Umbach (DEU)/Karl Foitek (DEU) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -
RAC Rally (Only top5)
2. #??? Tom Gold (GBR)/Mike Hughes (GBR) - Austin Healey Sprite -
Rali do ACP-Aveiro Estoril (Only top5)
1. #??? José Valente (PRT) - Mercedes-Benz 300SL -
2. #??? Manuel Palma (PRT)/Augusto Palma (PRT) - Porsche 356 -
3. #??? Alex Soler-Roig (ESP) - Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1600GS -
4. #??? Paul Coltelloni (FRA)/Henri Oreiller (FRA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -
5. #??? "Pinca" (PRT) - Porsche 356 -

Best regards
Américo

sednem

17th August 2011, 15:45

Thanks,Janusz .What are rounds ERC - 1958.

I have:
1. 21/01 a 29/01 : 27° Rally Automobile de Monte Carlo (MCO)
2. 24/02 a 02/03 : 9º Rallye del Sestrière (ITA)
3. 11/03 a 15/03 : 7° RAC Rally (GBR)
4. 02/04 a 06/04 : 6º Acropolis Rally (GRC)
5. 27/04 a 03/05 : 10º Rally das Tulipas (NLD)
6. 15/05 a 17/05 : 20º Wiesbaden Rally Deutschland (DEU)
7. 07/06 a 09/06 : 9° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen (SWE)
8. 00/07 a 00/07 : 7. Rallye Adriatico (YUG)
9. 04/07 a 12/07 : 19. Coupe des Alpes (FRA)
10. 27/08 a 31/08 : 17º Marathon de la Route/Liège Roma Liège (BEL)
11. 19/09 a 21/09 : 8º Rally Viking (NOR)
12. 00/11 a 00/11 : Rali do ACP (PRT)

Best regards
Américo.

januszsz

17th August 2011, 17:53

Adriatico
7. #??? Wojciech Schramm (POL)/??? Maurer (???) - Volvo - Günter Schramm (DEU) For sure it was not Wojciech fro Poland, who was a co-driver and probably was too young at the moment

Wiesbaden Rally Deutschland (Only top5)
4. #??? William Dodd (USA)/D.L. Delling (USA) - Volvo PV444 -
5. #??? Heinz Umbach (DEU)/Karl Foitek (CH) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -

Best regards
Américo

My inputs are in bold.
Regards
Janusz

januszsz

18th August 2011, 11:42

In deed: 11º Rali Internacional do ACP (ACP means Automóvel Club de Portugal)

regards Américo.
Hi Americo,
Here you have numbers for 1959 Monte's top 10:
176
211
158
187
232
263
132
82
111
208

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

18th August 2011, 11:44

And one more supplement for Americo:

Acropolis Rally 1959
7. #??? "Lailaps" (GR)/«Thor» (GR) - Volvo -

Reagrds
Janusz

DIMI44

19th August 2011, 15:56

And one more supplement for Americo:

Acropolis Rally 1959
7. Νο 46 "Lailaps" (GR)/«Thor» (GR) - Volvo 544

Reagrds
Janusz

Do you need numbers of ten first cars ? And for wich year?

DIMI44

19th August 2011, 16:08

Many thanks Dimi for numbers of Akropolis'62. Akropolis'63 numbers I got from you several months ago.
By the way, do you know the real name of "Milton" and the start number of the Auto Union (1961)? And maybe more numbers from that year?

Regards
Janusz

"MILTON" is nick name of MILTOS ANDRIOPOULOS and the start number was 27.

I have numbers only for first ten finishers AND the first Greek crew!!!!

cvhi

19th August 2011, 17:12

Entry List

N°1 Demuth-Lux Audi Quattro
N°2 Waldegaard -Thorzélius Audi Quattro
N°3 Eklund Toyota Corolla GT
N°4 Airikkala-Wilson Nissan 240 RS
N°5 Snyers-Colebunders Lancia Rally
N°6 Droogmans-Joosten Porsche 911 SC
N°7 Duez-Thimonier Mazda RX7
N°8 Colsoul-Lopès Opel Ascona 400
N°9 Dumont-Peeters Porsche 911 SC
N°10 Reginster-Delmelle Porsche 911 SC
N°11 Vandermaesen-Aerts Opel Ascona 400
N°12 Lareppe Opel Ascona
N°14 Vermeersch-De Canck Toyota Corolla GT
N°15
N°16 Goudezeune Alfetta GTV 6
N°17 Roothaert Nissan 240 RS
N°18
N°19 Kvaizar-Janecek Skoda 130 L
N°20 Krecek-Motl Skoda 130 L
N°21
N°22
N°23
N°24
N°25 De Mévius-De Rochelée Talbot Samba Rallye
N°26
N°27
N°28
N°29
N°30
N°31 Munster-Bozet Audi 80 Quattro
N°32
N°33 Dortu-Simon Fiat Ritmo Abarth
N°34 Fritzinger-Gartner Toyota Corolla GT
N°65 Dumoulin Ford Escort RS

If someone, can help me for this entry list ?
I search entry list about Condroz, Haspengow, Bianchi and Spa
mlanders@orange.fr

januszsz

19th August 2011, 20:44

"MILTON" is nick name of MILTOS ANDRIOPOULOS and the start number was 27.

I have numbers only for first ten finishers AND the first Greek crew!!!!
Hi Dimi,
Many thanks for the answer.
May you help me with numbers of following Akropolis Rallies:
1953, 1954 (I have only top 3 without name of codriver in 2nd - do you have more of classified?), 1955 (I have only top 3 without name of codriver in 3rd - do you have more of classified?), 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972.
Many Greek drivers hide under pseudomymes do you know real names of following driver - year of participation in brackets:
"Scorpion" (57)
"Alexander" (58)
"Sputnik" (58)
"XK" (58)
"Sim" (58)
"Nidri" (59)
"Giannis" (59)
"Stountzos" (60)
"Monza" (59,60)
"Ion" (60)
"Celestino" (61)
"BB" (62)
"Piravlos" (62)
"Lailaps" (59, 61, 62)
"Steven" (62)
"Warlock" (63)
"Bill" (63)
"Chris" (63)
"Zigoo" (62, 63)
"Nautilus" (66)
"Eiporch" (66)
"Gaspar" (66)
"Ikaros" (67)
"Voreios" (69)
"El Nak" (72)

Regards
Janusz

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 06:36

Lets start with easy (!!! lol) items.

"Scorpion" (57)
"Alexanandros" (58)Alexandros DARDOUFAS
"Sputnik" (58) P.KOUNTOURIOTIS
"XK" (58)
"Sim" (58)
"Nidri" (59)
"Giannis" (59)
"Stountzos" (60)
"Monza" (59,60)
"Ion" (60)
"Celestino" (61)
"BB" (62)
"Piravlos" (62)G. DEVERIKOS
"Lailaps" (59, 61, 62) Ioannis (JOHN) PSYCHAS
"Steven" (62)St. DERIZIOTIS
"Warlock" (63)
"Bill" (63)Ar. TZOANNOU
"Chris" (63)
"Zigoo" (62, 63)
"Nautilus" (66)Pavlos KANELLAKIS
"Eiporch" (66)Sotiris SOFIANOPOULOS
"Gaspar" (66)Christos GESIOS
"Ikaros" (67)IkaroS KANELLOPOYLOS
"Voreios" (69)Stavros GEORGIADIS
"El Nak" (72)Christos ( Nakos) PANOURGIAS

Regards
Janusz

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 07:06

Hi Dimi,
Many thanks for the answer.
May you help me with numbers of following Akropolis Rallies:
1953, 1954 (I have only top 3 without name of codriver in 2nd - do you have more of classified?), 1955 (I have only top 3 without name of codriver in 3rd - do you have more of classified?), 1956, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1960, 1961, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972.

Regards
JanuszI have numbers from 1956.
9.SCHOCK
84.FILINIS
94.FABRE
29.PESMAZOGLOU
69.GUIRAUD
103.TERMETZIS
24.CHENEVOY
02(?) STAVRIANOS
51.NIKOLOPOULOS
60.LYKOURIS

1957
7.ESTAGER
81.BLANCHOUT
75.FILINIS
77.KARLSSON
14.PAPADOPOULOS
37.DI PRIOLIO
39.GUIDI
19.MICHOS
48.GUIRAUD
66.NIKOLOPOULOS

1958
2.VILLORESI
25.PESMAZOGLOU
40.ANDERSSON
1.PAPAMICHAIL
65.MEIER
19.MICHOS
69.FILINIS
23.DE LA SENESTRE
56.MENZ
77.BLANCHOUD
1959
68.LEVY
14.WALTER
72.FILINIS
26.MICHOS
67.EICKELMANN
44.ANDERSSON
46.LAILAPS
40.COLTELONI
6.SOISBAULT
85.ROUTTINGER

1960
34.SCHOCK
115.CARLSSON
92.LEVY
43.HARPER
47.FILINIS
51.ANDERSSON
38.VON ZEBLITZ
7.BUSCH
116.BLANCHOUD
28.VON WESTERHOLT

1961
113.CARLSSON
73.ANDERSSON
3.RILEY
38.BOHRINGER
57.HARPER
67.BALLISTAT
61.ROSQVIST
128.BLOCK
65.RAY
7.LEWIS

I will revert asp.

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 07:42

Hi Dimi,
Many thanks for the answer.
May you help me with numbers of following Akropolis Rallies:
1953, 1954 (I have only top 3 without name of codriver in 2nd - do you have more of classified?), 1955 (I have only top 3 without name of codriver in 3rd - do you have more of classified?),

Results 1954.I have only following:
1. P.PAPADOPOULOS /S.DIMITRAKOS (Opel Record)
2.J.PESMAZOGLOU / Costas GALANIS (Chevy V8)
3.D.MALERIC / ? (Porche 356)
4.D. RAPAKOULIAS /DASKALAKIS (VW Kpf)

Results 1955.
1.J.PESMAZOGLOU /M.PAPANDREOU (Opel Capitain)
2.K.LYKOURIS /MANOLIDIS (Opel Olympia)
3.T.PERATIKOS /VELISSAROPOULOS (Fiat 1500)
4.Nicos FILINIS / ZOURIDIS (D.K.W.)
All the others without co-driver's name
5.APERGIS (Citroen)
6.G. TERMETZIS (Opel Olympia)
7.PETROPOULOS (Simca)
8.PETELEN (D.K.W.)
9.K. MPEMPIS (Ford)
10.D.KYRIAKOS (Peugeot 403)

All those informations that i give you are (most of them) from the book "50 ΧΡΟΝΙΑ ACROPOLIS RALLY" By NIKOLAS S. ZALMAS.

*ΧΡΟΝΙΑ= YEARS

januszsz

20th August 2011, 08:36

Results 1954.I have only following:
1. P.PAPADOPOULOS /S.DIMITRAKOS (Opel Record)
2.J.PESMAZOGLOU / Costas GALANIS (Chevy V8)
3.D.MALERIC / ? (Porche 356)
4.D. RAPAKOULIAS /DASKALAKIS (VW Kpf)

Results 1955.
1.J.PESMAZOGLOU /M.PAPANDREOU (Opel Capitain)
2.K.LYKOURIS /MANOLIDIS (Opel Olympia)
3.T.PERATIKOS /VELISSAROPOULOS (Fiat 1500)
4.Nicos FILINIS / ZOURIDIS (D.K.W.)
All the others without co-driver's name
5.APERGIS (Citroen)
6.G. TERMETZIS (Opel Olympia)
7.PETROPOULOS (Simca)
8.PETELEN (D.K.W.)
9.K. MPEMPIS (Ford)
10.D.KYRIAKOS (Peugeot 403)

All those informations that i give you are (most of them) from the book "50 ΧΡΟΝΙΑ ACROPOLIS RALLY" By NIKOLAS S. ZALMAS.

*ΧΡΟΝΙΑ= YEARS
Many, many thanks Dimi!
And what about 1953? Do you have more than top 3?

Regards
Janusz

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 10:23

Many, many thanks Dimi!
And what about 1953? Do you have more than top 3?

Regards
Janusz
I have the following six!!!!

1.Nikos PAPAMICHAIL /S.DIMITRAKOS (Jaguar XK 120)
2.Ber.VIGNE /P.GIANNICOSTAS (Citroen)
3.S.BOURTZOPOULOS /ANTONOPOULOS (Fiat 1100)
4.I.KANAROGLOU /LAMPROPOULOS (Standard Vanguard)
5.K. NIKOLOPOULOS /P.MILIDONIS (Morris Minor)
*6.KATOPODIS/ NEIADAS (Standard Vanguard)

* In other book they have NEIADAS for driver and KATOPODIS for co- driver.I was not there to know the truth!!!! lol.

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 10:59

RALLY ACROPOLIS
Car numbres of 10 first finishers.

1966

1.78 B.SODERSTROM
2.44 CLARK
3.67 HOPKIRK
4.9 ANDERSSON
5.88 ORRENIUS
6.87 ZASADA
7. 95 LUND
8.1 P.HARPER
9.20 SING
10.82 T.MAKINEN
And
12. 28 "EIPORH"/"NAYTILOS" B.M.W 1800TI

1968
1. 30 CLARK
2.23 ZASADA
3. 1 TOIVONEN
4.32 SODERSTROM
5.46 AALTONEN
6.45 KALLSTROM
7.43 BALLESTRIERI
8.41 Mrs CARLSSON
9.28 ANDERSSON
10.16 CLUTCHETH
and
11.14 George RAFTOPOULOS /"LELAPS" (Audi Super 90)

1969
1.1 TOIVONEN
2.3 CLARK
3.14 LAURENT
4.39 "YPSILANTIS"
5.22 SCHMITTHELM
6.44 "SIROCO
7. 17 PSYCHAS
8.35 DIONYSOPOULOS
9.79 CHASIOTIS
10.80 KOULENTIANOS

1970
1.2 THERIER
2.1 VINATIER
3.9 ANDERSSON
4.7 PIOT
5.8 LINDBERG
6.12 NICOLAS
7.22 "SIROCO"
8.15 PSYCHAS
9. 27 SIPSHI
10.72 "DAFY"

1971
1.5 ANDERSSON
2.2 NICOLAS
3. 1 LAMPINEN
4.11 CECCATO
5. 20 PESMAZOGLOU
6. 16 SIPAHI
7. 24 "LYSIKOMOS
8. 15 KOULENTIANOS
9. 43 IOANNIDES

1972
1. 4 LINDBERG
2. 7 LAMPINEN
3. 10 WARMBOLD
4. 1 TROMBOTO
5. 8 FALL
6. 2 MEHTA
7. (?) SMANIA
8. 19 "SIROCO

No any other numbers.

What about 1967 ?

januszsz

20th August 2011, 11:02

I have the following six!!!!

1.Nikos PAPAMICHAIL /S.DIMITRAKOS (Jaguar XK 120)
2.Ber.VIGNE /P.GIANNICOSTAS (Citroen)
3.S.BOURTZOPOULOS /ANTONOPOULOS (Fiat 1100)
4.I.KANAROGLOU /LAMPROPOULOS (Standard Vanguard)
5.K. NIKOLOPOULOS /P.MILIDONIS (Morris Minor)
*6.KATOPODIS/ NEIADAS (Standard Vanguard)

* In other book they have NEIADAS for driver and KATOPODIS for co- driver.I was not there to know the truth!!!! lol.
Again many thanks to you Dimi!
To continue old Akropolis Rally theme some more questions.
Do you know numbers of starters and finishers in following rallies:
1955
1956
1957
1962
1966
1968
and dates of start and finish of the rally:
1953
1954
1955

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

20th August 2011, 11:09

Dimi, there was aloso "Typhoon" in 1962 - do you know his real name?.

Regards
Janusz

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 11:34

Dimi, there was aloso "Typhoon" in 1962 - do you know his real name?.

Regards
Janusz

Dimitris NOMIKOS

januszsz

20th August 2011, 11:55

Dimi, I was lost in my questions and I ask you for Akropolis 1972. It was my mistake but good for you because you don't have all numbers but I have:
01 Lindberg 4
02 Lampinen 7
03 Warmbold 10
04 Trombotto 1
05 Fall 8
06 Mehta 2
07 Smania 5
08 "Siroco" 19
09 Fiat 30
10 Sipahi 32
11 Jaroszewicz 25
12 Isopp 75
13 Argyris 74
DQ Ioannides 31

I noticed some little differences in result you sent with numbers and reults I have. I'll check with my sources and I'll try to make them clear if possible.
Regards
Janusz

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 11:56

Again many thanks to you Dimi!
To continue old Akropolis Rally theme some more questions.
Do you know numbers of starters and finishers in following rallies:
1955 54 - 25
1956 86 - 63
1957 64 - 41
1962 (?) - 36
1966 105 - 37
1968 56 -21
and dates of start and finish of the rally:
1953 29/5 -31/5/1953
1954
1955

Regards
Janusz

No other dates.

januszsz

20th August 2011, 12:35

Hi Dimi again,
Here are those differences I noticed.
1956. in book "50 years of Akropolis Rally" 2nd is Papadopoulos and you have not him in your post - is it a mistake or book contains an error?
1958. in book "50 years..." is 9th Menz/Eikelmann but in Autsoport report from that rally 9th is Eikelmann/Hartmann - do you know who is right?
1968. in book "50 years..." classification of top 10 is different to that you posted, your post is similar to Autosport report with 7th Ballestrieri/Stone (Lancia Fulvia) - is it book's error or Ballestrieri was later excluded?
Regards
Janusz

DIMI44

20th August 2011, 19:03

Hi Dimi again,
Here are those differences I noticed.
1956. in book "50 years of Akropolis Rally" 2nd is Papadopoulos and you have not him in your post - is it a mistake or book contains an error?

In early first results he was on second place but after an extra penalty,came to 27th place.

1958. in book "50 years..." is 9th Menz/Eikelmann but in Autsoport report from that rally 9th is Eikelmann/Hartmann - do you know who is right?

Both books that i have they write "MENZ/ EICKELMANN. I dont know what is correct.

1968. in book "50 years..." classification of top 10 is different to that you posted, your post is similar to Autosport report with 7th Ballestrieri/Stone (Lancia Fulvia) - is it book's error or Ballestrieri was later excluded?

goohhh,goohhh!!!! In one book that i have ,i read: "The 7th place of Italian A.Ballestrieri ,after 36 years is still doubt."
Regards
Janusz
Anything more? lol.

januszsz

20th August 2011, 19:53

Many thanks to you Dimi. That's all for today. Goodnight!
Janusz

stanislav197

24th August 2011, 10:10

DIMI44

24th August 2011, 11:05

FAL

24th August 2011, 22:07

Jake Alderson

26th August 2011, 11:28

Does anyone have the dates of the following 1961 French rallies?

Rallye de Picardie
Rallye de Touquet
Rallye de la Baule
Rallye de Flandres-Hainaut

I am researching Morgan successes in rallies during the 1960s to include in a furure book. I know Guy Savoye did well in all of the above.

Sincere Thanks

Jake Alderson

stanislav197

27th August 2011, 15:00

Help me for result - ERC-1977 :Rally Welsh - 7-10 th ;Rally OASC - 2-10 th ;Rally Bosfor - 6-10 th .

Steve Boyd

27th August 2011, 21:29

Help me for result - ERC-1977 :Rally Welsh - 7-10 th ;Rally OASC - 2-10 th ;Rally Bosfor - 6-10 th .
From "The Welsh Rally" by Mark Griffin & Martin Leonard (go to Mark Griffin Rally Photography - Welsh Rally Book (http://www.griffinrally.com/welshrally.html) to order a copy):

7th (#25) Tony Drummond/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800) 212m 44s
8th (#31) Graham Elsmore/Stuart Harrold (Ford Escort RS2000) 215m 05s
9th (#26) Pat Ryan/Mike Nicholson (Triumph Dolomite Sprint) 218m 37s
10th (#19) Will Sparrow/Ron Crellin (Chrysler Avenger GT) 218m 48s

RiN

28th August 2011, 07:45

To help compile the defintive works rally history of the Lotus Cortina, I am now looking for just two Mk1 registration numbers - the Elford car on 1966 Vltava and 1966 German.
For the Mk2 I need registration numbers:
1967 Gulf London - Soderstrom No.2 (TorYVX???E)
1967 1000 Lakes - Soderstrom and O.Andersson (Ford Sweden cars?)
1967 3 Cities - Soderstrom
1967 RAC (cancelled at start) - Gelder/Hunt No4, Ward/Jackson No7, Hill/Siegle-Morris No9, Clark/Porter No31(CTC23E?), Chappell/Harper No35 (JUH638E?)
1967 Lydden Rallycross (week after RAC) - Hill/Clark double-driven car No.1/18.
1968 Swedish - Clark No12? (CTC23E?)

Unlikely anyone can help I know - especially as it's I who have the photos of the 67 RAC!

Can confirm that Andersson's and Söderström's cars on the 1000 Lakes in '67 were Swedish registered cars. Andersson had A83494, on Söderström's car I have only the last four digits ??3834.
I also have a picture of Clark's car on the '68 Swedish. If you have got CTC23E from another source, it is most likely correct. On the picture the E is partly hidden behind a branch so it could also be an L.

Tom

januszsz

28th August 2011, 09:55

Can confirm that Andersson's and Söderström's cars on the 1000 Lakes in '67 were Swedish registered cars. Andersson had A83494, on Söderström's car I have only the last four digits ??3834.
I also have a picture of Clark's car on the '68 Swedish. If you have got CTC23E from another source, it is most likely correct. On the picture the E is partly hidden behind a branch so it could also be an L.

Tom
I can confirm info of Tom and add that Söderström's car reg plate was A43834

regards
Janusz

FAL

28th August 2011, 21:47

Many thanks Tom and Janusz. I have seen a photo of the Clark/Swedish68 car that shows all the digits except the "3" so, if the photo you have shows all but the "E", we have confirmation. (This would have been the car from the cancelled 67RAC, converted from Gp5 to Gp2 - not too difficult a job).

sednem

31st August 2011, 20:09

Dimi , Americo help me for result ERC - 1954 : Rally RAC - 9-10 th ;Rally Midnattssolen - 7-10 th and 1955 :Rally Sestriere - 7-10 th ;Rally RAC - 6-10 th ;Rally Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th ;Rally Adriatico - 4-10 th .

Hi stanislav...
Here's what I have...

1954 :
Rally RAC - 9-10 th (I only have top8)

Rally Midnattssolen - 7-10 th
8. #??? Heinz Meier (DEU)/??? Friman (???) - DKW Sonderklasse -
9. #??? Gunnar Nilsson (SWE) - Fiat -
10. #??? ??? Gustafsson (SWE) - Fiat -

1955
Rally Sestriere - 7-10 th
7. #??? Ken Wharton (GBR)/Gordon Shanley (GBR) - Daimler Century - 52 pts
8. #??? Paul Guiraud (FRA)/G. Chevron (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
9. #??? Graf von Westerholt (DEU)/Heinrich Theden (DEU) - Porsche 356 -
10. #??? Guido Cestelli-Guidi (ITA)/Mme Cestelli-Guidi (ITA) - Alfa Romeo 1900 -

Rally RAC - 6-10 th
6. #??? A.H. Greig (GBR)/T.A.M. Pigott (GBR) - Triumph TR2 - 829.4 pts
7. #??? Ian Appleyard (GBR)/Reg Mansbridge (GBR) - MG TF1500 - 904.4 pts
8. #??? E.V.??? Baker (GBR)/R.P.N.??? Stark (GBR) - Ford - 921.7 pts
9. #194 D??? Done (GBR)/J.E.??? Storrar (GBR) - Fiat 1100 - 937.5 pts
10. #??? C.M.??? Seward (GBR)/A.C.??? Johnson (GBR) - Triumph TR2 -

Rally Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th
7. #??? Maus Gatsonides (NLD)/Giuseppe Borelly (FRA) - Triumph TR2 -
8. #??? Willy Mairesse (BEL)/Maurice Desse (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
9. #??? Guy Monraisse (FRA)/Jacques Feret (FRA) - Renault 4cv -
10. #??? Paul Condrillier (FRA)/Jean Hébert (FRA) - Renault 4cv -

Rally Adriatico - 4-10 th
4. #??? Graf von Westerholt (DEU) - Porsche 356 -
5. #??? Walter Schlüter (DEU)/Siegfried Eickelmann (DEU) - DKW F91 3-6 -
6. #??? Heinz Schwind (DEU) - BMW 502 -
7. #??? F. Imbert (???)/M. Salvati (???) - Alfa Romeo 1900 - 7.32 pts
8. #??? Rodica (???) - Alfa Romeo 1900 - 9.00 pts
9. #??? Holle (???) - Porsche 356 Coupé 1500S - 10.00 pts
10. #??? R. Sebastiani (ITA) - Fiat 1100 - 22.00 pts

Best regards.
Américo

stanislav197

31st August 2011, 22:46

DIMI44

1st September 2011, 14:59

Americo,CAN YOU HELP ME for result ERC-1956 :...............4/Acropolis - 7 th ;..........................

7. Car No 24.CHENEVOY / DOCUERCE Porche 1500S

stanislav197

1st September 2011, 15:32

Dimi,you know first name of CHENEVOY / DOCUERCE .

DIMI44

1st September 2011, 15:37

Dimi,you know first name of CHENEVOY / DOCUERCE .
I am sorry, I don't know first names.....

focus206

1st September 2011, 16:32

Hello everyone :)
I've got many things to ask, but I don't want to abuse of your patience, so answer me just when you have time.
Please, someone can give me:
- the 1982 ERC calendar (with coefficients of the rallies)
- the 1981 ERC calendar (with coefficients of the rallies)
Thank you in advance ;)

januszsz

1st September 2011, 18:24

focus206

1st September 2011, 20:37

januszsz

2nd September 2011, 11:16

Thank you januszsz :)
Before asking I tried to search that calendars on this thread but it has so many pages and maybe I skipped something, I'm glad I found them now...
Next things I'd like to ask:
- the 1978 ERC calendar (with coefficients)
- the 1977 ERC calendar (with coefficients)
I think these two weren't already posted, answer me when you have time.
Thank you in advance!

Hi Focus,
here you can find ERC 1977 and 1978 calendars with coeffs
1977
13-16.01 Jänner A 1
04-06.02 Boucles de Spa B 1
04-06.02 Galway IRL 1
04-06.02 Arctic FIN 4
12-13.02 Sachs Winter D 1
18-20.02 Costa Brava E 3
18-20.02 Hanki FIN 2
26-27.03 Sicilia I 2
08-12.04 Circuit of Ireland GB 3
21-23.04 Isola d'Elba I 3
29-30.04 Firestone E 3
05-08.05 Gulf Tulpen NL 2
07-08.05 Criterium Alpin F 3
12-15.05 YU YU 1
12-14.05 Welsh GB 2
13-15.05 Criterium Lucien Bianchi B 2
19-21.05 Hessen D 2
27-30.05 South Swedish S 1
03-05.06 4 Reggioni I 3
03-07.06 Scottish GB 3
11-13.06 Zlatni Piassatzi BG 3
24-25.06 Antibes F 3
24-26.06 24h d'Ypres B 3
01-02.07 Campagnolo e delle Alpi Orientali I 2
08-10.07 Polski PL 4
20-24.07 Hunsrück D 1
29-31.07 Danube RO 2
26-28.08 Taurus H 1
01-03.09 San Martino di Castrozza I 4
08-11.09 Sachs Baltic D 2
10-12.09 Halkidikis GR 1
16-17.09 Manx GBM 1
15-24.09 Tour de France F 4
23-25.09 Cyprus CY 2
13-15.10 Ö.A.S.C A 2
15-16.10 Chataigne F 1
21-23.10 R.A.C.E. E 4
04-06.11 Warszawski PL 1
10-13.11 Algarve P 1
27-28.11 Bosphorus TR 1
1978
13-15.01 Jänner A 1
03-05.02 Arctic FIN 4
03-05.02 Boucles de Spa B 1
10-12.02 Galway IRL 2
17-19.02 Costa Brava E 3
17-19.02 Hanki FIN 2
24-26.02 Sachs Winter D 3
24-28.03 Circuit of Ireland GB 3
23-25.03 Sicilia I 2
31.03-02.04 YU YU 1
07-09.05 Arbo A 1
15-16.04 Saarland D 1
28-30.05 Criterium Lucien Bianchi B 2
04-06.05 Isola d'Elba I 3
05-07.05 Criterium Alpin F 3
04-07.05 Tulpen NL 2
11-13.05 Welsh GB 2
19-21.05 Lorraine F 1
19-21.05 4 Reggioni I 3
26-27.05 Hessen D 2
26-27.05 South Swedish S 1
02-04.06 Haspengouw B 1
03-07.06 Scottish GB 4
10-12.06 Zlatni Piassatzi BG 3
16-18.06 Antibes F 3
15-17.06 Donegal IRL 1
23-25.06 Ypres B 3
01-02.07 Skoda CS 1
01-02.07 Alpi Orientali I 4
06-09.07 Polski PL 4
21-22.07 Hunsrück D 2
28-30.07 Danube RO 2
11-13.08 Taurus H 1
07-09.09 Sachs Baltic D 2
09-11.09 Halkidikis GR 3
15-16.09 Manx GBM 2
16-21.09 Tour de France F 4
29.09-01.10 Cyprus CY 3
06-08.10 Warszawski PL 2
13-15.10 Ö.A.S.C A 2
14-15.10 Chataigne F 1
20-22.10 R.A.C.E. E 4

Regards
Janusz

focus206

2nd September 2011, 13:51

Thank you januszsz :)
Next things I'd like to know:
- the 1974 ERC calendar
- the 1966 ERC calendar
Answer me when only you have time.
Thanks in advance

januszsz

3rd September 2011, 07:06

Thank you januszsz :)
Next things I'd like to know:
- the 1974 ERC calendar
- the 1966 ERC calendar
Answer me when only you have time.
Thanks in advance

Hi Focus,
Here you are:
1974
31.01-02.02 Arctic FIN
16-17.02 Costa Brava E
01-04.03 San Marino I
29-31.03 Firestone E
12-16.04 Circuit of Ireland GB
18-20.04 Isola d'Elba I
21-27.04 Tulpen NL
10-12.05 Welsh GB
10-12.05 Paris-St.Raphael F
24-26.05 Hessen D
30.05-02.06 YU YU
14-16.06 Antibes F
14-16.06 J.Ä.M.T. S
20-23.06 Zlatni Piassatzi BG
28-30.06 24h Ypres B
05-07.07 Vltava CS
12-14.07 Polski PL
02-04.08 Danube RO
28-31.08 San Martino I
30-31.08 Taurus H
28.08-01.09 Baltic D
13-22.09 Tour de France F
11-13.10 Lugano CH
17-19.10 Ö.A.S.C A
25-27.10 R.A.C.E. E
1966
14-22.01 Monte Carlo MC
13-14.02 Svenska S
24-26.02 Dei Fiori I
25-30.04 Tulpen NL
12-15.05 Alpenfahrt A
26-29.05 Akropolis GR
10-12.06 Geneve CH
01-03.07 Vltava CS
14-17.07 Deutschland D
03-06.08 Polski PL
19-21.08 1000 Lakes FIN
05-10.09 Coupe des Alpes F
07-09.10 München-Wienna-Budapest D/A/H
19-25.11 RAC GB

Regards
Janusz

focus206

3rd September 2011, 10:59

Thank you januszsz :)
We're almost done. Now I'd like to know these two:
- the 1965 ERC calendar
- the 1957 ERC calendar
Answer me when you have time.
Thanks in advance

januszsz

3rd September 2011, 13:57

Thank you januszsz :)
We're almost done. Now I'd like to know these two:
- the 1965 ERC calendar
- the 1957 ERC calendar
Answer me when you have time.
Thanks in advance

Hi Focus
1957
25.02-01.03 Sestriere I
24-28.04 Akropolis GR
05-11.05 Tulpen NL
30.05-02.06 Nürburgring-Wiesbaden D
11-16.06 Midnattssolen S
20-23.06 Geneve CH
24-28.07 Adriatic YU
28.08-01.09 Liege-Rome-Liege B
20-24.09 Vikings N
1965
16-25.01 Monte Carlo MC
25-28.02 Dei Fiori I
10-14.03 Svenska S
01-03.04 R.A.C.E. E
27-30.04 Tulpen NL
20-23.05 Akropolis GR
11-13.07 Geneve CH
02-04.07 Vltava CS
19-25.07 Coupe des Alpes F/CH/I
04-08.08 Polski PL
20-22.08 1000 Lakes FIN
08-10.10 München-Wienna-Budapest D/A/H
19-25.11 RAC GB

Regards
Janusz

focus206

3rd September 2011, 15:13

Thank you januszsz :)
Now I need the last two:
- the 1956 ERC calendar
- the 1955 ERC calendar
Answer me when you have time.
Thanks in advance

januszsz

3rd September 2011, 15:49

Thank you januszsz :)
Now I need the last two:
- the 1956 ERC calendar
- the 1955 ERC calendar
Answer me when you have time.
Thanks in advance
Hi Focus
Below you can find what you asked for
1955
17-24.01 Monte Carlo MC
25.02-02.03 Sestriere I
08-12.03 RAC GB
30.04-05.05 Tulpen NL
18-22.05 ADAC Nürburgring D
13-18.06 Midnattssolen S
17-21.08 Liege-Rome-Liege B
09-12.09 Vikings N
26-30.09 Adriatic (ERC??) YU - there was a discussion on it on the Forum but still it is not solved: was Adriatic Rally'55 a part of ERC or wasn't...

1956
16-23.01 Monte Carlo MC
24-28.02 Sestriere I
06-10.03 RAC GB
26-29.04 Akropolis GR
05-12.05 Tulpen NL
25-27.05 Geneve CH
23.05-03.06 Midnattssolen S
20-24.06 Wiesbaden D
06-13.07 Coupe des Alpes F/I/YU
28.08-02.09 Liege-Rome-Liege B
14-17.09 Vikings N
26-30.09 Adriatic YU
01-04.11 Iberia E

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

3rd September 2011, 15:59

focus206

3rd September 2011, 16:32

Hi januszsz
Even if I have the Swiss flag on the forum, I'm actually an Italian, so I'm not an expert about Swiss rallies / drivers. Maybe I can help you with some Italian rallies / drivers, but I'm only interested in ERC, so I don't have results about just national Italian rallies.
Anyway, this is all what I have:

Rallye de Geneve 1968 (I have only a uncomplete top 10)
1) Pauli Toivonen/??? Vihervaava - Porsche 911
2) Lucien Bianchi/J??? Jacquemin - Alfa Romeo GTA
3) Guy Verrier/Francois Murac - Alfa Romeo GTA
4) Gilbert Staepelaere/Andre Aerts - Ford Cortina
5) ??? Blank/??? - Porsche 911
6) ??? Cochet/??? - Porsche 911
7) Bob Wollek/??? - Renault R8 Gordini
8) Claude Haldi/??? - Porsche 911
9) Jean-Jacques Thuner/??? - Triumph TR5
10) ??? Labaune/??? - Alfa Romeo GTA

Rallye de Geneve 1971
1) Jean-Pierre Nicolas / Jean Todt - Alpine Renault A110
2) Jacques Henry/ ??? Grobot - Alpine Renault A110
3) Claude Haldi/ Eric Chapuis - Porsche 911 S
4) Florian Vetsch/ ??? Olivier - Porsche 911 S
5) Marie-Pierre Palayer/ Christine Rouff - Alpine Renault A110
6) Bernard Fiorentino / Maurice Gélin - Simca CG
7) ???
8) Guy Chasseuil / ??? - Alfa Romeo 1750
9) ???
10) ???

Rallye de Lugano 1974 nothing, except:
1) Walter Rohrl / ??? - Opel Ascona

In the next weeks I will search more about this, I will post here if I find something else :)
Regards

DIMI44

4th September 2011, 19:14

Rallye de Lugano 1974 nothing, except:
1) Walter Rohrl / BERGER - Opel Ascona

In the next weeks I will search more about this, I will post here if I find something else :)
Regards

From "Walter Rohrl Diary". Page 249.

sednem

6th September 2011, 16:52

Americo,CAN YOU HELP ME for result ERC-1956 :2/Sesriere - 8-10 th ;3/RAC - 7-10 th ;4/Acropolis - 7 th ;5/Tulpen - 6-9 th ; 6/Geneve - 2-9 th ;7/Midnattssolen - 7-10 th ;10/Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th ;11/Viking - 8-9 th ;12/Adriatic - 7-10 th ;13/Iberia - 2-10 th .

Hi Stanislav... Here what I have for your missing 1956 ERC Results

2/Sesriere - 8-10 th
8. #??? Roger Masson (FRA)/Roger Laurent (BEL) - -
9. #??? Giorgio Superti (ITA)/??? Fiorani (ITA) - Fiat -
10. #??? Paul Guiraud (FRA)/Alzary de Rocquefort (FRA) - -

3/RAC - 7-10 th (also have only top6...)
4/Acropolis - 7 th
7. #??? P. Chenevoy (FRA)/J. Deguerce (FRA) - Porsche 356 -

5/Tulpen - 6-9 th (also have onlyn top5)
6/Geneve - 2-9 th
2. #??? ??? Beyer (???)/??? Perrot (???) - Porsche 356 Carrera 1500GS - 1.00 pts
3. #??? Bruno Martignoni (ITA)/??? Vanini (ITA) - Alfa Romeo 1900 Ti - 5.10 pts
4. #??? Ruth Lautmann (DEU)/R. Utermöhl (DEU) - Ford Taunus 15M - 5.27 pts
5. #??? Georges Houel (FRA)/R. Bertramnier (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1900C Super Sprint Zagato - 7.73 pts
6. #??? Cedric (FRA)/??? Calame (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1900C Super Sprint Zagato - 9.16 pts
7. #??? ??? Wicky (CHE)/Carlo Bornand (CHE) - Triumph TR2 - 10.68 pts
8. #??? ??? Steffen (???)/??? Görgen (???) - Peugeot 403 - 15.89 pts
9. #??? Robert Dubuet (FRA)/«Dupré» (FRA) - Peugeot 403 - 17.66 pts
10. #??? Walter Schock (DEU)/Rolf Moll (DEU) - Mercedes-Benz 300SL - 18.20 pts

7/Midnattssolen - 7-10 th (have onlyn top5)
10/Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th
7. #??? Roger de Lageneste (FRA)/Michel Nicol (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
8. #66 Georges Harris (BEL)/??? Jacqmin (BEL) - Volvo PV444 -
9. #??? Alain de Changy (BEL)/Lucien Bianchi (BEL) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
10. #??? Bessey (FRA)/Bernard Pichon (FRA) - Triumph -

11/Viking - 8-9 th
8. #??? Lars Askersrud (NOR)/Gunnar Stenslie (NOR) - Ford Anglia -
9. #??? Ulf Strindlund (SWE)/Fred Brolin (SWE) - Peugeot 403 -

12/Adriatic - 7-10 th (have onlyn top5)
13/Iberia - 2-10 th
2. #12 Javier Sanglas (ESP)/??? Sanglas (ESP) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint - 43.938 pts
3. #73 José Valente (PRT) - Porsche 356 -
4. #5 Esteban Sala (ESP)/Victor Sagi (ESP) - Fiat Zagato v8 -
5. #28 Gerardo de Andrés (ESP) - Mercedes-Benz 300SL -
6. #39 Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Hans Wencher (DEU) - Porsche 356 -
7. #83 Carlos Faustino (PRT) - Panhard -
8. #101 Francisco Pereira (PRT) - Lancia -
9. #9 Carlos Mach (ESP) - Mercedes-Benz 190SL -
10. #88 João Azevedo (PRT) - Triumph -

So if someone can say:
RAC Rally 7-10th...
Tulpen 7-10th...
Midnattssolen 6-10th...
Adriatic 6-10th
it will be nice...
Best Regards
Américo!

sednem

6th September 2011, 17:01

Hi Focus,
Sorry for wrong information. In 1955 Adriatic Rally was probably held from 20th to 24th of July, not in September.
May you help me with swiss rallies and first names of Swiss drivers?
At the begining, do you have top 10 of Rallye de Geneve 1971 and top 10 of Rallye de Lugano 1974?
I am looking also for full result and a report of Rallye de Geneve 1968.
Thank you in advance
Janusz

Hi Janusz,

For Adriatic 1955 I have 20-24 July...
Regarding your swiss results missing here's what I have...

Rali de Genève 1968
1. #??? Pauli Toivonen (FIN)/Urpo Vihervaara (FIN) - Porsche 911 T - 4170 pts
2. #??? Lucien Bianchi (BEL)/Jean-Marie Jacquemin (FRA) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA - 4368 pts
3. #??? Guy Verrier (FRA)/Francis Murac (FRA) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA - 4432 pts
4. #??? Gilbert Staepelaere (BEL)/André Aerts (BEL) - Ford Escort TwinCam -
5. #??? Bernard Blank (CHE)/Freddy Karrer (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
6. #??? Jacques Cochet (???)/??? Feuz (???) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #??? Bob Wolleck (FRA)/Jean-Pierre Delaunay (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
9. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/John Gretener (CHE) - Triumph TR5 -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -

Rali de Genève 1971
1. #??? Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Jean Todt (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
2. #??? Jacques Henry (FRA)/Étienne Grobot (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
3. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
4. #??? Florian Vetsch (CHE)/??? Olivier (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
5. #??? Marie-Pierre Palayer (FRA)/Christine Rouff (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Bernard Fiorentino (FRA)/Maurice Gélin (FRA) - Simca CG 2200 Coupé -
8. #??? Guy Chasseuil (FRA)/Christian Baron (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1750 -
(seems 7,9 and 10th are pretty hard to fund...)

Rallye de Lugano 1974
1. #??? Walter Röhrl (DEU)/Jochen Berger (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -
2. #??? Anna Cambiaghi (ITA)/Luana Vanzi (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye -
3. #??? Carlo Bianchi (ITA)/??? Silva (???) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -
4. #??? ??? Beretta (???)/??? Pirovano (???) - -
5. #??? ??? Finzi (???)/??? Faggioli (???) - -
6. #??? Cesare De Angelis (ITA)/Giuseppe Gasparoli (ITA) - -
If there is somebody with 7-10th (and the some missing makes)...

Best regards
Américo!

focus206

6th September 2011, 17:13

Rali de Genève 1968
1. #??? Pauli Toivonen (FIN)/Urpo Vihervaara (FIN) - Porsche 911 T - 4170 pts
2. #??? Lucien Bianchi (BEL)/Jean-Marie Jacquemin (FRA) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA - 4368 pts
3. #??? Guy Verrier (FRA)/Francis Murac (FRA) - Alfa Romeo Giulia GTA - 4432 pts
4. #??? Gilbert Staepelaere (BEL)/André Aerts (BEL) - Ford Escort TwinCam -
5. #??? Bernard Blank (CHE)/Freddy Karrer (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
6. #??? Jacques Cochet (???)/??? Feuz (???) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #??? Bob Wolleck (FRA)/Jean-Pierre Delaunay (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini -
8. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Eric Chapuis (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
9. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/John Gretener (CHE) - Triumph TR5 -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -

Hi Américo
I can add this to the results of 1968 Rallye de Geneve: the complete name of Cochet should be Jean-Jacques and he's Swiss.

januszsz

6th September 2011, 19:16

10/Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th

10. #??? Bessey (FRA)/Bernard Pichon (FRA) - Triumph -

13/Iberia - 2-10 th
2. #12 Javier Sanglas (ESP)/??? Sanglas (ESP) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint - 43.938 pts
3. #73 José Valente (PRT) - Porsche 356 -
4. #5 Esteban Sala (ESP)/Victor Sagi (ESP) - Fiat Zagato v8 -
5. #28 Gerardo de Andrés (ESP) - Mercedes-Benz 300SL -
6. #39 Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Hans Wencher (DEU) - Porsche 356 -
7. #83 Carlos Faustino (PRT) - Panhard -
8. #101 Francisco Pereira (PRT) - Lancia -
9. #9 Carlos Mach (ESP) - Mercedes-Benz 190SL -
10. #88 João Azevedo (PRT) - Triumph -

Hi Americo,
"Bessey" was a pseudonyme of Bernard Consten.
Do you have starting number of Rali Iberico'56 winner Fernando Stock? Do you know number of starters/finishers of that rally?
Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

6th September 2011, 19:22

sednem

6th September 2011, 19:59

I have the following six!!!!

1.Nikos PAPAMICHAIL /S.DIMITRAKOS (Jaguar XK 120)
2.Ber.VIGNE /P.GIANNICOSTAS (Citroen)
3.S.BOURTZOPOULOS /ANTONOPOULOS (Fiat 1100)
4.I.KANAROGLOU /LAMPROPOULOS (Standard Vanguard)
5.K. NIKOLOPOULOS /P.MILIDONIS (Morris Minor)
*6.KATOPODIS/ NEIADAS (Standard Vanguard)

* In other book they have NEIADAS for driver and KATOPODIS for co- driver.I was not there to know the truth!!!! lol.

Normal you have only 6, Dimi, In 1953 Acroipolis there were 26 starting crews an only 6 finished!

Best regards
Américo!

DIMI44

6th September 2011, 20:27

RALLY ACROPOLIS 1957.
6.L.Di PRIOLO / Di PRIOLO Car No 37 Alfa Romeo 1,9
7.GUIDI /Mme GUIDI Car No 39 Alfa Romeo 1,9
8. Alkis MICHOS (GR) /A.ANTONIOU (GR) Car No 19 Alfa Romeo GSV
9.P.GUIRAUD /A.BEAU Car No 48 Peugeot 403
10.K. NICOLOPOULOS (GR)/S.KALOUDIS (GR) Car No 66 Alfa Romeo Gulia

RALLY ACROPOLIS 1958

6.Alkis MICHOS / A. ANTONIOU Car No 19 Alfa Romeo GSV
7. Nikos FILINIS (GR) /S. ZANNOS (GR) Car No 69 D.K.W.
8.DE LA SENESTRE /R.BLANCHET Car No 23 Peugeot 403
9.MENZ /S.EICKELMAN Car No 56 Auto Union 1000
10.H.BLANCHOUD /R.BERGER Car No 77 Saab 93

sednem

6th September 2011, 22:03

Hi Americo,
"Bessey" was a pseudonyme of Bernard Consten.
Do you have starting number of Rali Iberico'56 winner Fernando Stock? Do you know number of starters/finishers of that rally?
Regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz,

For Iberico 1956 I have:
1. #61 Fernando Stock (PRT)/Manuel Palma (PRT) - Mercedes-Benz 300SL - 42.615 pts
and
Starters: 80, finishing 62

Best regards
Américo.

sednem

7th September 2011, 00:56

Thank,Americo. Help me for result ERC-1957 :1/Sestriere - 6-10 th ;2/Akropolis - 6-10 th ;5/Midnight sun - 7-10 th ;6/Geneve - 2,5,8,9 th ;7/Adriatic - 1-9 th ;8/Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th and ERC-1958 :2/Sestriere - 2,4,6,8-10 th ;3/RAC - 5,7-10 th ;4/Akropolis - 6-10 th ;5/Tulpen - 6 th ;6/Wisbaden - 6-10 th ;8/Coupe des Alpes - 8-9 th ;9/Adriatic - 3-10 th ;10/Liege-Roma-Liege - 3,6-10 th

Hi Stanislav, here what I have for you:

57
1/Sestriere - 6-10 th
6. #20 Paola Lena (ITA)/Orlando Palanga (ITA) - Ferrari 250GT -
7. #??? ??? Corcos (ITA)/??? Janari (ITA) - Fiat -
8. #??? Oscar Papais (ITA)/Eros Crivellari (ITA) - Ferrari 250GT -
9. #??? Antonio Fiorani (ITA)/Gino Munaron (ITA) - Maserati 2000 GTZ -
10. #??? Giorgio Superti (ITA)/??? Fiorani (ITA) - Alfa Romeo -

2/Akropolis - 6-10 th (Only have top5)
5/Midnight sun - 7-10 th (Only have top5)
6/Geneve - 2,5,8,9 th
2. #??? Stefan Brügger (CHE)/W. Tiefenthaler (CHE) - DKW F91 3-6 -
5. #??? Carlo Bornand (CHE)/Michelle Vouga (???) - Alfa Romeo -
8. #??? ??? Poncet (???)/Simone Poncet (???) - -
9. #??? ??? Berger (???)/??? Walter (???) - -

7/Adriatic - 1-9 th
1. #??? Ruprecht Hopfen (DEU)/??? von Lösch (DEU) - Saab 93 -
2. #??? H. Kaufmann (DEU)/??? Rappolt (DEU) - DKW F91 3-6 -
3. #??? L. Marini (ITA)/L. Tavola (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
4. #??? Pegaso (ITA)/Massimo Bettoja (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
5. #??? Arnulf Pilhatsch (AUT)/??? Richter (???) - BMW 502 -
6. #??? Wolfgang Levy (DEU)/Horst (DEU) - Fiat 1100 -
7. #??? Carlo Bornand (CHE)/Michelle Vouga (???) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
8. #??? Paul Guiraud (FRA)/??? Britvic (YUG) - Peugeot 403 -
9. #??? Milivoje Vukovic (YUG)/??? Picek (YUG) - DKW F91 3-6 -
10. #??? Alex von Falkenhausen (DEU)/Kitty von Falkenhausen (DEU) - BMW 507 -

8/Liege-Roma-Liege - 7-10 th
7. #??? Paul Guiraud (FRA)/Henri Beau (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
8. #??? Claude Michy (FRA)/Maurice Foulgoc (FRA) - Renault Dauphine 845cc -
9. #??? Alain de Changy (BEL)/André Liekens (BEL) - Triumph -
10. #??? Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Herbert Linge (DEU) - Porsche 356 Carrera 1500GS

ERC-1958 :
2/Sestriere - 2,4,6,8-10 th
2. #??? Edgar Berney (CHE)/??? Deccoppet (CHE) - Alfa Romeo 1900 Ti - 25,9 pts
4. #??? Anton Stardero (ITA)/??? Bonino (ITA) - Alfa Romeo GTi - 28,5 pts
6. #??? ??? Ferrero (ITA)/??? Sasserno (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
8. #??? Giuseppe Musso (ITA)/Pegaso (ITA) - -
9. #??? Erwin? Bauer (???)/Masetti Zannini (ITA) - -
10. #??? Sergio Stefani (ITA)/Ferdinando Tecilla (ITA) - -

3/RAC - 5,7-10 th
5. #??? Peter Wadham (GBR)/Wilfred Wadham (GBR) - Morris -
7. #??? E. Brinkman (???)/??? Spurgeon (???) - Jaguar -
8. #??? Nancy Mitchell (GBR)/Joan Johns (GBR) - Riley 1.5 -
9. #??? D.A. Smith (???)/??? Tymon (???) - Fiat 1100 -
10. #??? Ken Lee (GBR)/Archie Sinclair (GBR) - Riley 1.5 -

4/Akropolis - 6-10 th
6. #??? Alkis Michos (GRC)/A. Antoniou (GRC) - Alfa Romeo -
7. #??? Nikos Filinis (GRC) - DKW F91 3-6 -
8. #??? Roger de Lageneste (FRA)/Pierre Blanchet (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
10. #??? Herbert Blancoud (FRA)/Robert Berger (FRA) - Saab -

5/Tulpen - 6 th
6. #??? Jens Nielsen (DNK)/V. Dam (DNK) - Volvo -
6/Wisbaden - 6-10 th (Only have top5)
8/Coupe des Alpes - 8-9 th
8. #??? Desmond Titterington (GBR) - Triumph TR3 -
9. #309 Tommy Sopwith (GBR)/Bill Deane (GBR) - Sunbeam Rapier -

9/Adriatic - 3-10 th
3. #??? Alex von Falkenhausen (DEU)/Kitty von Falkenhausen (DEU) - BMW -
4. #??? Milivoje Vukovic (YUG)/??? Picek (YUG) - DKW F91 3-6 -
5. #??? Max Riess (DEU)/Hans Wencher (DEU) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
6. #84 Kurt Otto (GDR)/Hermann Hanf (GDR) - Wartburg 311 -
7. #??? Siegfried Eickelmann (DEU)/Hermann Kühne (DEU) - DKW F91 3-6 -
8. #85 Kurt Rüdiger (GDR)/Willi Wöllner (GDR) - Wartburg 311 -
9. #??? ??? Brindl (???)/??? Menth (???) - DKW F91 3-6 -
10. #??? Werner Jäger (???)/Erich Müller (???) - AWE -

10/Liege-Roma-Liege - 3,6-10 th
3. #??? Robert Reip (BEL)/??? Velge (???) - Porsche 356 Carrera 1500GS -
6. #??? Robert Leidgens (BEL)/Claude Dubois (BEL) - Triumph TR3 -
7. #21 Roger Masson (FRA)/Jean Vinatier (FRA) - DB-Panhard -
8. #??? Claude Clemens (DEU)/Rob Slotemaker (NLD) - Porsche 356A 1600S -
9. #??? John Gott (GBR)/Ray Brookes (GBR) - MG A-1600 -
10. #??? Gerry Burgess (GBR)/Sam Croft-Pearson (GBR) - Austin Healey 100 -

Best regards
Américo.

sednem

7th September 2011, 01:01

Well, since i've "reopened" my old results for Stan... I realise there is a lot of stuff missing...

So does anybody have:
54, RAC: 6-10th
56, RAC: 7-10th
56, Midnattssolen 6-10th
56, Adriatico 6-10th
57, Akropolis: 6-10 th
57, Midnattssolen: 6-10th
58, Acropolis: 9th
58, Wisbaden: 6-10th

Finaly in 1958 the last race should be Rali do ACP, but I have nothing related to... Was this rallye held? Was it in ERC? if yes somebody have top10???

Thanks and best regards
Américo!

januszsz

7th September 2011, 09:17

9/Adriatic - 3-10 th
10. #??? Werner Jäger (???)/Erich Müller (???) - AWE -

Hi Americo,
Those two guys are from DDR (East Germany) - in fact for a long time East and West German sportsmen were not divided they all were just "Germans". Name of their car is simply Wartburg. It was produced in Eisenach and name of the factory was Automobile Werke Eisenach = AWE. So it was Wartburg or - if you wish - AWE Wartburg. All Wartburgs were produced in Eisenach, so there were not other Wartburgs different than f.e. soviet Moskvichs which were AZLK factory as well as from Izhevsk.
Regards
Janusz

stanislav197

7th September 2011, 20:03

Americo ,Rali ACP not ERC - 1958.

stanislav197

15th September 2011, 16:19

sednem

16th September 2011, 08:21

Americo, help me for result ERC-1959:2/Rally Sestiere - 4-8 th and 10 th ;3/Tulpen - 2 th an 7-8 th ;4/Akropolis - 4 th ;6/Coupe des Alpes - 8 th and 10 th ;7/Adriatic - 4,5,7 th ;11/Wisbaden - 4,6,8-10 th ;12/ RAC - 6-10 th ;13/Estoril - 5-10 th and ERC-1960 :3/Tulpen - 9 th ;9/Liege-Roma-Liege - 4 th ;11/ RAC - 6 th and ERC-1961 :2/Tulpen - 10 th ;4/1000 mili - 4,6,8 th ;6/Coupe des Alpes - 4 th ;9/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 9-10 th ;

Hi Stanislav,

Here what I have...

ERC-1959:
2/Rally Sestiere - 4-8 th and 10 th
4. #??? Renato Canaparo (ITA)/??? Marsoglio (ITA) - Fiat 8V -
5. #??? Erwin? Bauer (???)/??? Ferrero (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -
6. #??? Arturo Bertoglio (ITA)/Alex Soler-Roig (ESP) - Alfa Romeo -
7. #??? Girolama Capra (ITA)/??? Pilone (ITA) - -
8. #??? Giancarlo Sala (ITA)/??? Ubaldi (ITA) - Fiat -
10. #??? Luciano Fontana (ITA)/Angela Zuppini Fontana (ITA) - -

3/Tulpen - 2 th an 7-8 th
2. #19 Keith Ballisat (GBR)/E. Marvin (???) - Triumph TR3A -
7. #70 Walter Schock (DEU)/H.H. Hölder (DEU) - Mercedes-Benz 220SE -
8. #5 Jack Sears (GBR)/P. Garnier (GBR) - B.M.C. / Austin Healey 100-6 -

4/Akropolis - 4 th
4. #26 Alkis Michos (GRC)/Ch. Theodoracopoulos (GRC) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spider -

6/Coupe des Alpes - 8 th and 10 th
8. #??? Edward Harrison (GBR)/J. William Fleetwood (GBR) - Ford Zephyr Six -
10. #??? Maus Gatsonides (NLD)/H. Steunebrink (NLD) - Jaguar -

7/Adriatic - 4,5,7 th
4. #??? Robert Gentelini (FRA)/Mme Gentilini (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTi -
5. #??? Milivoje Vukovic (YUG)/??? Picek (YUG) - Auto Union 1000S -
7. #??? Günter Schramm (DEU)/??? Maurer (DEU) - Volvo -

11/Wisbaden - 4,6,8-10 th (Only have top5 and 10th)
4. #??? William Dodd (USA)/D.L. Delling (USA) - Volvo PV444 -
10. #??? Peter Falk (DEU)/Rolf Knoll (DEU) - DKW 1000 Sp -

12/ RAC - 6-10 th (only have top6)
6. #16 Peter Morgan (GBR)/D.E.J. Thompson (GBR) - Morgan Plus-Four -

13/Estoril - 5-10 th (Only have top5 without codrivers...)
5. #??? "Pinca" (PRT) - Porsche 356 -

ERC-1960 :
3/Tulpen - 9 th ;
9. #68 Gunnar Andersson (SWE)/B. Martensson (SWE) - Volvo PV544 -

9/Liege-Roma-Liege - 4 th ;
4. #31 Christian Poirot (FRA)/Dr. ??? Guillemin (FRA) - Porsche 356 Carrera Coupé 1600GS - 1H14:49

11/ RAC - 6 th
6. #6 Tiny Lewis (GBR)/G.S. Shephard (GBR) - Triumph Herald -

ERC-1961 :
2/Tulpen - 10 th ;
10. #30 H. Steunebrink (NLD)/Klaas Barendregt (NLD) - Jaguar Mk 2 3.8 -

4/1000 mili - 4,6,8 th ;
4. #??? Albino Buticchi (ITA)/N. Camilli (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta SS Zagato -
6. #??? Gianfranco Bonetto (ITA)/??? Pellizzaro (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta SS Zagato -
8. #??? Armando Zampiero (ITA)/??? Corona (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta SV -

6/Coupe des Alpes - 4 th ;
4. #??? Henri Gréder (FRA)/Jean Charon (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A106 -

9/Liege-Sofia-Liege - 9-10 th ; Only 8 arrived!

Best Regards
Américo

stanislav197

16th September 2011, 13:33

DIMI44

18th September 2011, 11:37

RALLY ACROPOLIS 1964

5. Mrs E.ROSQVIST/Mrs E.FALK Car No 38 Mercedes 220SE
6.K. JAMES /J.HUGHES Car No 42 Rover 3.0 L
7.P. VANSON / I.JOLY Car No 3 Citroen DS 19
8.Mrs B. EHRINGE / Mrs A.LINDQVIST Car No 62 VW 1500S
9. M. HURST / A.CLARK Car No 40 Rover 3.0 L
10. O. ANDERSSON/A.TORSEN Car No 30 Saab 96

sednem

20th September 2011, 10:30

Thank,Americo .Help me for ERC-1962 :2/Tulpen - 5-6 th ;6/Raid Polski - 4 and 8 th ;7/1000 lakes - 10 th ;10/Geneve - 6-10 th ; ERC-1963 :2/Tulpen - 4 th ;4/Coupe des Alpes - 9 th ;6/Wisbaden - 7-9 th ;7/1000 lakes - 6 th ;9/Sardinia - 6-10 th ;10/Geneve - 10 th ; ERC-1964 :3/ACP -5 and 10 th ;6/Alpenfart - 6-10 th ;12/Geneve - 9 th and ERC-1965 :4/RACE - 9 th ;8/Vltava - 10 th ;12/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 2,5,9,10 th .

Hi Stanislav,

Here's what I have...

ERC-1962 :
2/Tulpen - 5-6 th
5. #27 Jules Meur (MCO)/Freddy Rouselle (FRA) - Porsche Carerra 1600GT -
6. #26 D.F. Gray (???)/J. Actham (???) - Porsche Super 90 -

6/Raid Polski - 4 and 8 th
4. #??? Kurt Otto (GDR)/Hermann Hanf (GDR) - Wartburg 311 -
8. #??? Marian Repeta (POL)/Eugeniusz Stryczek (POL) - Warszawa -

7/1000 lakes - 10 th
10. #30 Harry Bengtsson (SWE)/Rolf Dahlgren (SWE) - Porsche - 2210.3 pts

10/Geneve - 6-10 th
6. #??? Karl Kling (DEU)/Rolf Kreder (DEU) - DKW -
7. #??? Otto Kreft (DEU)/Werner Fleck (DEU) - Jaguar -
8. #??? Robert Meier (CHE)/Erich Bechtel (CHE) - DKW -
9. #??? Paul Macchi (CHE)/Aldo Macchi (CHE) - Saab -
10. #??? Roger Meunier (FRA)/??? Grosrey (FRA) - Jaguar

ERC-1963 :
2/Tulpen - 4 th
4. #148 Alfred Kling (DEU)/Georg Kaufmann (AUT) - DKW F11 -

4/Coupe des Alpes - 9 th
9. #??? George Nicolas (FRA)/??? Lauguil (FRA) - Renault Dauphine 1093cc -

6/Wisbaden - 7-9 th
7. #??? Wolfgang Köppel (DEU) - BMW -
8. #??? Helmut Kelleners (DEU)/Ferdi Boekmann (DEU) - Fiat -
9. #??? Reiner Brechler (DEU)/M. Brechler (DEU) - Volvo -

7/1000 lakes - 6 th
6. #34 Bengt Söderström (SWE)/Bo Olsson (SWE) - Volvo PV544 - 10392.5 pts

9/Sardinia - 6-10 th
6. #??? Degli Innocenti (ITA)/F. De Benedictis (ITA) - Abarth 850 TC -
7. #??? Piero Bagnasacco (ITA)/??? Bonomi (ITA) - Volvo PV544 -
8. #??? Sergio Lipizer (ITA)/Ugo De Giorgio (ITA) - Abarth 850 TC -
9. #??? Walter Cordaro (ITA)/B. Melis (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -
10. #??? Alessandro Scorcinelli (ITA)/??? Binaghi (ITA) - Mini Cooper

10/Geneve - 10 th
10. #??? Bernard Mauris (CHE)/Guy Grasso (CHE) - Ford Cortina -

ERC-1964 :
3/ACP -5 and 10 th (ACP was the 12th round of the champship, held in november)
5. #??? Jorge Pessanha (PRT)/??? Mascalero (PRT) - Porsche Carrera SC -
10. #??? José Lickfold Silva (PRT)/??? Faria (PRT) - Mini Cooper S -

6/Alpenfart - 6-10 th
6. #??? Otto Karger (AUT)/Wolfgang Denzel (AUT) - Volvo -
7. #??? Carl Schindler (DEU)/Fritz Naber (DEU) - MG-B -
8. #??? Georg Kaufmann (AUT)/Alfred Kling (DEU) - DKW -
9. #??? Ernst Benedikt (AUT)/??? Herle (AUT) - Volvo -
10. #??? ??? König (AUT)/Franz Mauerhofer (AUT) - Steyr-Puch 650 TR -

12/Geneve - 9 th
9. #??? Jean-Pierre Meyer (CHE)/J-P. Rutsch (CHE) - Ford Cortina - 481 pts

ERC-1965 :
4/RACE - 9 th
9. #??? Armando Cifuentes (ESP) - Ford Cortina -

8/Vltava - 10 th
10. #??? Antonin Dolejs (CSK)/M. Poldauf (CSK) - Skoda Octavia -

12/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 2,5,9,10 th .
2. #??? Jean-Jacques Thuner (CHE)/??? Hitch (???) - Ford Cortina GT -
5. #??? Herbert Kohlweiss (???)/D.B. Martelanz (???) - Alfa Romeo -
9. #??? Günther Schorn (???)/H. Pail (???) - Steyr-Puch 650 TR -
10. #??? H. Füss (???)/A. Wendlinger (???) - Porsche 356C 1600 -

Best Regards
Américo.

focus206

20th September 2011, 11:31

Hi everyone :)
I'm also searching some old results, I'll post here what I need, answer me when You have time:

1955
Tulip - 6th, 7th, 9th
Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th

1956
RAC - 7th to 10th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th to 10th
Adriatic - 1st, 6th to 10th

1957
Tulip - 7th, 10th
Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th

Thanks in advance for any answer :)

stanislav197

20th September 2011, 11:49

sednem

22nd September 2011, 11:52

Hi everyone :)
I'm also searching some old results, I'll post here what I need, answer me when You have time:

Thanks in advance for any answer :)

Here's what I have...

1955
Tulip - 6th, 7th, 9th
6. #131 Walter Schlüter (DEU)/Siegfried Eickelmann (DEU) - DKW F91 3-6 -
7. #79 Peter Harper (GBR)/John Cutts (GBR) - Sunbeam Talbot 90 -
9. #209 Greta Molander (NLD)/Monica Kjerstadius (NLD) - Saab 92B -

Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th
6. #92 Jo Bonnier (SWE)/Bo Boësen (SWE) - Alfa Romeo 1900 -
7. #165 Åke Thambert (SWE)/Mario Pavoni (SWE) - Fiat 1100 TV -
8. #169 Harry Bengtsson (SWE)/Åke Righard (SWE) - Volkswagen -
9. #163 Thure Jansson (SWE)/Lennart Jansson (SWE) - Fiat 1100 TV -
10. #132 Martin Carstedt (SWE)/Gully Carstedt (SWE) - Ford Taunus 15M

Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th
6. #27 Robert Leidgens (BEL)/Freddy Rousselle (BEL) - Triumph TR2 -

1956
RAC - 7th to 10th (for me too, missing results...)

Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th to 10th
7. #??? Roger de Lageneste (FRA)/Michel Nicol (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
8. #66 Georges Harris (BEL)/Jean-Marie Jacquemin (BEL) - Volvo PV444 -
9. #??? Alain de Changy (BEL)/Lucien Bianchi (BEL) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta -
10. #??? «Bessey» (FRA)/Bernard Pichon (FRA) - Triumph -

Adriatic - 1st, 6th to 10th (missing results 7-10th)
1. #??? Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Hans Wencher (DEU) - Porsche 356A 1300S
6. #??? Vaclav Ovorka (CSK)/Viktor Mraz (CSK) - Skoda

1957
Tulip - 7th, 10th
7. #138 Jimmy Ray (GBR)/Ian Hall (GBR) - Sunbeam Rapier -
10. #63 Max Riess (DEU)/Gottlieb Küfner (DEU) - Mercedes-Benz 220SE

Midnight Sun - 6th to 10th (Missing 7,8,10)
6. #??? Carl-Magnus Skogh (SWE)/Rolf Skogh (SWE) - Saab 93B -
9. #??? Alan Borgefors (SWE)/B. Andersson (SWE) - Porsche 356 -

Liege-Rome-Liege - 6th
6. #??? René Cotton (FRA)/Jacques Leclère (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1900 -

Best Regards
Américo!

sednem

22nd September 2011, 12:04

Thank,Americo.Help me for ERC - 1966 :5/Alpenfart - 5 and 10 th ;7/Geneve - 8-9 th ;8/Vltava - 10 th ;9/Wisbaden - 3-10 th ;; ERC - 1967 :5/Pneumant - 4 and 9 th ;7/Alpenfart - 7 th ;15/RACE - 6-7 th ;; ERC - 1968 :2/Pneumant - 4,8-9 th ;5/Danube - 7 th ;7/Geneve - 6 and 10 th ;;ERC - 1969 : 8/RAC - 10 th ;; ERC - 1970 - 2:Pneumant - 3 and 10 th ;3/Circuit of Irland - 10 th ;6/Wisbaden - 5 th ;7/Bodensee - 4 th ;8/Lorean - 3 th ;10/Geneve - 9 th ;12/Raid Polski - 7 th ;15/San Martino di K. - 6-7 th ;17/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 4 and 6 th ;19/1000 Minuti - 10 th ;22/Belgia - 9 th.Americo ,Write me your calendar for ERC - 1964 .

Hi Stanislav...
Some stuff for you:

1966 :
5/Alpenfart - 5 and 10 th
5. #??? E. Buchbauer (DEU)/Geri Brandstetter (DEU) - Renault 8 Gordini - 2115,97 pts
10. #??? Oldrich Horsák (CSK)/Miroslav Fousek (CSK) - Skoda Octavia -

7/Geneve - 8-9 th
8. #??? Charles Ramu (CHE)/C. Maurice (CHE) - Alfa Romeo GTA -
9. #??? Georges Theiler (CHE)/Erich Bechtel (CHE) - Mini Cooper S -

8/Vltava - 10 th
10. #??? Dieter Lambart (DEU)/W. Zink (DEU) - Opel Kadett Coupé -

9/Wisbaden - 3-10 th
3. #??? Joachim Springer (DEU)/J. Schey (DEU) - BMW 2000 Ti - 2700.6 pts
4. #??? Sobieslaw Zasada (POL)/Kazimierz Osinski (POL) - Steyr-Puch 650 TR -
5. #??? Karl-Heinz Panowitz (DEU)/Rainer Strunz (DEU) - NSU ****el Spider -
6. #??? T. Klinck (DEU)/??? Menehem (DEU) - Glas 1300GT -
7. #??? H. Leidl (DEU)/Ulrich Hering (DEU) - Steyr-Puch 650 TR -
8. #??? Paul Roeder (DEU)/P. Schutz (???) - NSU ****el Spider -
9. #??? Hans Supper (DEU)/??? Sutter (DEU) - Glas 1300GT -
10. #??? R. Lieb (DEU)/??? Buchrich (DEU) - Porsche 911-S -

1967 :
5/Pneumant - 4 and 9 th
4. #??? Kenneth Gram-Nielsen (SWE)/M. Sørensen (SWE) - Mini Cooper S -
9. #??? Jan Lander Andersen (DNK) - Fiat 1500 -

7/Alpenfart - 7 th
7. #??? Walter Roser (FRA)/B. Andrieu (FRA) - Renault 8 Gordini

15/RACE - 6-7 th
6. #??? José-Maria Juncadella (ESP)/S. Molist (ESP) - Mini Cooper S -
7. #14 Jorge de Bagration (ESP)/J. Bárcenas (ESP) - Lancia Fulvia HF -

1968 :
2/Pneumant - 4,8-9 th
4. #??? Kenneth Gram-Nielsen (SWE)/M. Sørensen (SWE) - Mini Cooper S -
8. #??? Walter Roser (AUT)/R. Kec (???) - Renault 8 Gordini -
9. #??? Václav Bobek (CSK)/H. Bobek (CSK) - Skoda 1100MB -

5/Danube - 7 th
7. #??? Günter Bohrn (AUT)/Hans Gubier (AUT) - Opel Kadett -

7/Geneve - 6 and 10 th
6. #??? Jean-Jacques Cochet (CHE)/??? Feuz (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -
10. #??? Noël Labaune (FRA)/??? Rodet (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTA -

1969 :
8/RAC - 10 th
10. #26 Lasse Jönsson (SWE)/P. Lindström (SWE) - Saab 96 V4 - 501:21"

1970 :
2:Pneumant - 3 and 10 th
3. #??? Gilber Casseljo (SWE)/C. Olsson (SWE) - Ford Capri -
10. #??? Eberhard Ehrlich (GDR)/Dieter Schöne (GDR) - Wartburg 311 -

3/Circuit of Irland - 10 th
10. #??? Bror Danielsson (SWE)/Sven-E. (SWE) - Opel Kadett Rally 1.9 - 932.5 pts

6/Wisbaden - 5 th
5. #??? Klaus Miersch (DEU)/??? Agethen (DEU) - Opel Kadett Rally 1.9 -

7/Bodensee - 4 th
4. #??? Heribert Neger (AUT)/??? Sternecker (AUT) - BMW 2002 Tii

8/Lorean (Lorraine : a very nice french region)- 3 th
3. #??? Jacques Henry (FRA)/Roger Lauer (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

10/Geneve - 9 th
9. #??? ??? Meier (???)/??? Bianchi (???) - Porsche 911R -

12/Raid Polski - 7 th
7. #??? Ulf Sundberg (SWE)/D. Jonsson (SWE) - Lancia Fulvia

15/San Martino di Castrozza - 6-7 th
6. #??? Alberto Smania (ITA)/??? Borsetto (ITA) - Fiat 125-S -
7. #??? "Giampietro" (ITA)/??? Borsoi (ITA) - Porsche 911-S -

17/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 4 and 6 th
4. #??? Achim Warmbold (DEU)/R. Kec (???) - Opel Kadett GT -
6. #??? Walter Roser (AUT)/Leopold Mayer (AUT) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

19/1000 Minuti - 10 th
10. #??? F.M. Kerschbaum (AUT)/R. Sedlácek (CSK) - BMW 2002 Tii - 5148.9 pts

22/Belgia - 9 th
9. #??? ??? Vanhunessel (BEL)/??? Demay (BEL) - Porsche 911-S -

calendar for ERC - 1964 .
1. 18/01 a 24/01 : 33° Rally Automobile de Monte Carlo (MCO)
2. 27/02 a 01/03 : 4. Rallye dei Fiori (ITA)
3. 21/04 a 23/04 : 16º Rally das Tulipas (NLD)
4. 21/05 a 24/05 : 12º Acropolis Rally (GRC)
5. 29/05 a 31/05 : 35º Rali dos Alpes Austríacos (AUT)
6. 09/06 a 13/06 : 15° Svenska Rallyt till Midnattssolen (SWE)
7. 22/06 a 27/06 : 25. Coupe des Alpes (FRA)
8. 30/07 a 03/08 : 24° Rali da Polónia (POL)
9. 14/08 a 16/08 : 14° Rally dos 1000 Lagos (FIN)
10. 25/08 a 29/08 : 23º Marathon de la Route/Liège Sofia Liège (BEL)
11. 15/10 a 18/10 : 33º Rali de Genève (CHE)
12. ??/11 a ??/11 : 11º Rali Internacional do ACP (PRT)
13. 08/11 a 13/11 : 13° RAC Rally (GBR)

best regards
Américo

focus206

22nd September 2011, 14:50

Many thanks Américo! :)
One thing about nationality: are You sure Greta Molander (Tulip 1955) was Dutch? According to me she was Swedish.

Now I'd like to know these results: answer me when You have time.

1956
Tulip - 6th to 10th

1957
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th

(sorry, I forgot to ask about those 2)

1958
German - 6th, 7th, 9th
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th
ACP - top 10 (someone says it was a ERC rally, someone says it wasn't...)

1959
Tulip - 6th, 9th, 10th
Midnight Sun - 6th, 8th, 9th
German - 6th, 8th, 9th
RAC - 7th to 10th
ACP - 6th to 10th

Thanks in advance for any answer.

stanislav197

22nd September 2011, 17:40

Greta Molander is Norway.

focus206

22nd September 2011, 17:48

Greta Molander is Norway.

Seems like she was born in Sweden, but then married a Norwegian, and so she moved to Norway and took their nationality. So yes, she was Norwegian, thank you Stanislav ;)

stanislav197

22nd September 2011, 17:55

Steve Boyd

22nd September 2011, 23:18

Seems like she was born in Sweden, but then married a Norwegian, and so she moved to Norway and took their nationality. So yes, she was Norwegian, thank you Stanislav ;)
Remember, the nationality on an entry list is the country of the ASN that issued the driver's licence not the country of birth of the driver. The nationality of a driver on the entry list of a rally can be different from the nationality on the passport. Look at some entry lists from the 1970's and you will see Ari Vatanen & Pentti Airikkala as GB but I bet their passports always said FIN!

D-Type

23rd September 2011, 13:57

Remember, the nationality on an entry list is the country of the ASN that issued the driver's licence not the country of birth of the driver. The nationality of a driver on the entry list of a rally can be different from the nationality on the passport. Look at some entry lists from the 1970's and you will see Ari Vatanen & Pentti Airikkala as GB but I bet their passports always said FIN!
This was particularly common on the Safari. The local drivers were nearly all expatriates with foreign citizenship. They were always given the 'nationality' of the country they were resident in regardless of their true nationality. If in the course of his employment a driver moved from one country to another his 'nationality' could change from year to year.
I can see problems occurring in future with the break up of Yugoslavia and the USSR and in reverse with the unification of Germany.

This is one reason why I always encourage database compilers to include a 'Remarks' or 'Comments' field.

Steve Boyd

23rd September 2011, 21:47

FAL

23rd September 2011, 22:20

I had this discussion with a friend recently who pointed out that the FIA have now changed the rule, but only for world championship events, so that the nationality matches the passport. Particularly so that the flag next to the driver's name on the car looks right. Why they didn't do it for all international events is anyone's guess.

Problem still remains that you can hold more than one passport and, separately, some smaller countries are not affiliated to the FIA anyway, as it's too expensive for the amateur clubs involved and the motorsport they organise is not entirely (or at all in some cases) controlled by the FIA.
One example is the country who's flag I use on here. An independent nation for 31 years, once a British "colony". A race driver I know is wholly resident there and has no UK property but has raced in the UK (and still does) and other countries for over 40 years with a UK MSA-issued licence.
The FIA may know the exact status of a small group of licence holders in F1 etc. but cannot possibly check every place of residence or birth qualification of every licence holder. (and long may it continue - we've passed "1984" and "Big Brother" is still no more than a moronic TV programme. We have enough other problems with "The Nanny State")
So, sorry rally history statisticians, as we have said before on here, you will never have wholly reliable data in that respect.

Steve Boyd

23rd September 2011, 22:42

It is not up to the FIA to verify the nationality of a competitor, the onus relies on the event organiser to check at documentation. Currently licences are checked and the nationality verified that way on international events. Presumably you are also expected to produce a passport at signing-on at world championship events.
Regarding former colonies, historically the RAC was the ASN for the British Empire and as nations like Canada, Australia &c developed their own motorsport organisations the RAC ceeded its control in those nations. The MSA as the successor to the RAC is still the ASN for any of the bits of Empire left over that haven't sorted out their own governing body. Under the FIA rules as they stand your friend can use his flag on national events, should use a Union Flag on internationals but, depending on his passport, might be able to use his Antigua & Barbuda flag on world championship events.
Incidentally I've never seen anyone query the use of a Welsh dragon or Saltire on a rally car but I can't see how their use would be covered on an international event as Wales & Scotland neither issue passports or competition licences!

FAL

24th September 2011, 20:05

Was writing about F1 -where the FIA are wholly responsible for administration of Superlicences, not National bodies or event organisers. Any "grandfather" rights of MSA for remaining colonies cannot cover Independent nations. No one has ever asked me for a passport at signing on for World Championship events, leave alone other Internationals! The recent fuss over Belgians Stefaan Stouf and Jorris Errard registering for the British Historic Championship was not really resolved properly, just fudged, and I'm not convinced the solution is compliant with the regs, however much everyone wants them here. I also object to Welsh, Scottish and English flags on cars - it's as much an abuse as the attempt to make all EU National events automatically open to all National EU licence holders was. NEAFP is another fudge that bought off then FIA with the fee payable...
Back to topic - we've covered it before on here - historians must accept they will never get a perfectly accurate record of true nationality from event entry lists/results.

Steve Boyd

26th September 2011, 10:57

Agreed - all you will ever be able to ascertain is the nationality that was published on the enty list or results at the time - which may or may not have been correct!

cvhi

1st October 2011, 13:48

On entry List Rallye Zlatni Piassatzi 1975

What pilots, co driver and car for these numbers

N°1
N°4
N°6
N°8
N°10
N°11
N°18
N°20
N°22
N°30
N°34
N°54
N°55
N°101
N°102
N°105
N°115

Many Thanks
[email:p3141r0z]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:p3141r0z]

stanislav197

1st October 2011, 17:32

januszsz

2nd October 2011, 10:43

For Rallye Zlatni Piassatzi 1975 : 1,4,6,810,11,18,20,22,30,54,101 - not start. 34.Ilia Chubrikov BG-Kolio Chubrikov BG - Renault 12 Gordini ; 55. Kent Janson SWE -Ake Daliov SWE - Saab V 4 ; 102. Dieter Shulc FRG - Alfred Hofman FRG - Fiat 128 ; 105. Andrash Nagi HUN - Lajos Kovac HUN - Fiat 128 ; 115. Franz Gale GDR - Heinz Gale GDR - Trabant 601 . Stanislav
Hi Stanislav,
According to Zlatni'75. Who drove with numbers: 25, 53, 100, 104, 114, and what numbers had Karl-Heinz Weigel/Gerhard Bedrich (DDR) Wartburg 353 and Maciej Stawowiak/Jan Czyżyk (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600 as well as Janusz Książkiewicz/Józef Ważny (PL) Polski Fiat 125p and Ryszard Nowicki/Wojciech Schramm (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600?
Regards
Janusz

RobertS

2nd October 2011, 11:33

105. Andrash Nagi HUN - Lajos Kovac HUN - Fiat 128
András Nagy - Lajos Kovács

cvhi

2nd October 2011, 11:36

Many Thanks Stanislav, perhaps you know for Zlatni 1976 who is number ? just on entry list perhaps ?

N°5
N°10
N°12
N°23
N°29
N°30
N°35
N°36
N°41
N°45
N°48
N°50
N°52
N°54
N°55
N°57
N°58
N°62
N°63
N°65
N°66
N°70
N°71
N°73
N°74
N°79
N°85
N°86
N°87
N°88
N°89
N°91
N°93
N°94
N°95
N°97
N°98
N°99
N°101
N°102
N°105
N°110
N°111
N°113

stanislav197

2nd October 2011, 12:17

Unlike of Zlatni 1975 ,for Rally Zlatni 1976 have no full starting list.I have no these numbers ,except 50.George Yovchev BG -Jordan Mollov BG - Moskvich 412.

cvhi

3rd October 2011, 20:54

For the Poland Rally 1995, I dont have these numbers N°20, N°37, N°39, N°64, N°69. Perhaps not attribued on entry list, if someone can help me ?

januszsz

4th October 2011, 09:20

For the Poland Rally 1995, I dont have these numbers N°20, N°37, N°39, N°64, N°69. Perhaps not attribued on entry list, if someone can help me ?
You are right, those numbers were "empty" on the entry list.
Regards
Janusz

Jagpushrod

4th October 2011, 12:28

I am researching the brief Rally career of the Jaguar 3.5 litre Mk5 car ( i own one ) A Mk5 came 3rd 1951 and 5th 1953 on the Monte, driven by Irishman Cecil Vard. ( Google "Cecil Vard Irish Rally" for a pic of Mk5 and Cecils Achievements )

Whilst not the fastest of cars its 3.5 litre pushrod engine produced 125 bhp / 200 lbs/ft Torque...it had excellent roadholding with 50/50 weight balance.

Info required on any of the below.....

In 1951 7 Mk5,s entered the Monte.. 6 from Glasgow and 1 from Madrid ..i am seeking info on car 227 a Mr Hole.... car 241 Reggie Tongue ( a famous Racing driver of the period )

The Spanish driver was Sig. E. Descals Juncusa with A. Rogue/Rivero. car 121.

1952 Car 90 D. Warwick / F Warwick.

!953 Car 136 H Harrop / T. Saxton... Manchester area ?

1954 Car 187 L.S. Norman / D. Farquarson Leicester area ?
Car 232 Handley / Lucas Dudley area ?

In Sweden in 1952 A. Mr Hagstom entered a Mk 5 on the Midnightsun car no 19 Regisration A 56985.....any knowledge on this out there ?

Any leads on info / living family members/ photos greatly Appreciated.

The Mk5,s legacy was Ronnie Adams winning the 1956 Monte with a Mk7 Jaguar....the Mk7 inherited the Mk5,s chassis...the Mk7 benefitting from the "New " 3.4 litre 165 bhp. Twin overhaed cam engine...

The Mk5,s Rallying in the UK and Monte was in the limelight of the success of the XK120 on Alpine and other Major events ( Not eligible for Monte ) and Jaguars Le Mans success,s of all of the 1950,s. ,, and the Mk5,s brief success,s have not been fully reported on....so any clues greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Ed Abbott

sednem

4th October 2011, 16:36

Many thanks Américo! :)
One thing about nationality: are You sure Greta Molander (Tulip 1955) was Dutch? According to me she was Swedish.

Now I'd like to know these results: answer me when You have time.

1956
Tulip - 6th to 10th
6. #168 Jan Langestraat (NLD)/B.L. van der Wansem (NLD) - Rover 75 -
7. #209 P.D.C. Brookes (GBR)/R.E.W. Wellswest (GBR) - Morris Minor 1000 -
8. #219 Philippe van de Maelle (FRA)/J. Langlard (FRA) - Citroen DF -
9. #188 F. Riest (DEU)/Günther Isenbügel (DEU) - Ford Taunus 12M -
10. #32 Lyndon Sims (GBR)/Tony Ambrose (GBR) - Aston Martin DB2

1957
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th
7. #??? Paul Guiraud (FRA)/Henri Beau (FRA) - Peugeot 203 -
8. #??? Claude Michy (FRA)/Maurice Foulgoc (FRA) - Renault Dauphine 845cc -
9. #??? Alain de Changy (BEL)/André Liekens (BEL) - Triumph -
10. #??? Paul Ernst Strähle (DEU)/Herbert Linge (DEU) - Porsche 356 Carrera 1500GS -
(sorry, I forgot to ask about those 2)

1958
German - 6th, 7th, 9th (Missing too)
Liege-Rome-Liege - 7th to 10th
7. #21 Roger Masson (FRA)/Jean Vinatier (FRA) - DB-Panhard -
8. #??? Claude Clemens (DEU)/Rob Slotemaker (NLD) - Porsche 356A 1600S -
9. #??? John Gott (GBR)/Ray Brookes (GBR) - MG A-1600 -
10. #??? Gerry Burgess (GBR)/Sam Croft-Pearson (GBR) - Austin Healey 100 -

ACP - top 10 (someone says it was a ERC rally, someone says it wasn't...)
IMO Not ERC (I have no record of this race... Was it suppressed???)

1959
Tulip - 6th, 9th, 10th
6. #120 Freddy Karrer (CHE)/Karl Foitek (CHE) - Alfa Romeo Giulietta Ti -
9. #93 Gunnar Andersson (SWE)/Walter Karlsson (SWE) - Volvo PV544 -
10. #78 Cuth Harrison (GBR)/John Harrison (GBR) - Ford Zephyr Six -

Midnight Sun - 6th, 8th, 9th
6. #??? Gunnar Andersson (SWE)/Walter Karlsson (SWE) - Volvo PV544 -
8. #??? Harry Bengtsson (SWE)/Åke Righard (SWE) - Volkswagen -
9. #??? Ivar Andersson (SWE)/Lennart Simonsson (SWE) - Mercedes-Benz 220SE -

German - 6th, 8th, 9th (Missing too)
RAC - 7th to 10th (Missing too)
ACP - 6th to 10th (I only have top6)
6. #??? Erik Carlsson (SWE)/Karl-Erik Svensson (SWE) - Saab 93B -

Thanks in advance for any answer.

Best Regards
Américo

sednem

4th October 2011, 16:48

Thank,Americo .Help me for ERC-1971 :9/Geneve - 4,7,9-10 th ;12/Danube - 5 and 10 th ;;ERC-1972 :2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th ;3/Neyge et Glas - 7-9 th ;5/Pneumant - 5-10 th ;6/Firestown - 8-9 th ;8/Scotish -5 th ;17/Sachs Baltic - 9 th ;24/Belgia - 7-10 th ;;ERC-1973 :2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th ;4/Firestown - 10 th ;5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th ;6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th ;7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th ;11/ Semperit - 7 th ;12/Scotish - 10 th ;19/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th ;20/Cyprus - 4,5,7-10 th ;21/Race - 7-10 th ;

ERC-1971 :
9/Geneve - 4,7,9-10 th ; (Missing too)
4. #??? Florian Vetsch (CHE)/??? Olivier (CHE) - Porsche 911-S -

12/Danube - 5 and 10 th;
5. #??? Heinz Böck (AUT)/H. Kohlbacher (AUT) - Mazda RX-2 -
10. #??? Stefan Iancovici (ROM)/V. Ficiu (ROM) - Renault 8 Gordini -

ERC-1972
2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th
6. #59 Jorge Babler (ESP)/Ernesto Borau (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
8. #60 Javier Brugué (ESP)/J. Roset (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
10. #21 Alfonso Marcos (ESP)/R. Vial (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

3/Néige et Glace - 7-9 th
7. #??? Jean Ragnotti (FRA)/??? Coche (FRA) - Opel Ascona 1.9 -
8. #??? ??? Charpentier (FRA)/??? Pierre (FRA) - Renault 12 Gordini -
9. #??? Jean-Christophe Court-Payen (FRA)/??? del Negri (FRA) - Opel Kadett

5/Pneumant - 5-10 th (missing too)
6/Firestone - 8-9 th
8. #??? Jean-François Más (FRA)/B. Gass (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Pancho» (ESP)/??? Sánchez (ESP) - Ford Capri 2600 -

8/Scotish -5 th
5. #14 Ingvar Carlsson (SWE)/Ingemar Carlsson (SWE) - BMW 2002 Tii -

17/Sachs Baltic - 9 th
9. #??? Bengt Sorensen (DNK)/??? Petersen (DNK) - BMW 2002 Tii -

24/Belgia - 7-10 th (missing too)

ERC-1973 :
2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th
8. #25 Antonio Melero (ESP)/Adriano Pérez de Lara (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 18873.5 pts
9. #57 Joan Tarrés (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19003.0 pts
10. #63 José María Jordá (ESP)/F.J. Casanova (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19417.8 pts

4/Firestone - 10 th
10. #49 Fernando Lezama (ESP)/Juan M. Casas (ESP) - Seat 1430 -

5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th
8. #??? Franco Ceccato (ITA)/Loris Roggia (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye -

6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th
2. #??? Eamonn Cotter (IRL)/Paul Phelan (IRL) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #??? Mervyn Johnston (IRL)/??? McFarland (IRL) - Mini Cooper S -
6. #??? David Lindsay (GBR)/Jack Cunningham (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
9. #??? ??? Bridges (GBR)/Brendan Doyle (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Thomas Lawther (GBR)/??? Brown (GBR) - Mini Cooper S -

7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th
8. #??? Frank Pierson (GBR)/Colin Francis (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Bob Bean (GBR)/David Greenwood (GBR) - Ford Escort Mexico -

11/ Semperit - 7 th
7. #??? Erich Haberl (AUT)/Martin Pucher (AUT) - Porsche 911-S -

12/Scotish - 10 th
10. #??? David Thompson (GBR)/Maurice Isley (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -

19/Munhen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th (10th missing too)
5. #??? Jürgen Kaufhold (DEU)/??? Schucan (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S -

20/Cyprus - 4,5,7-10 th (Only have top6)
4. #??? Mihalis Koumas (GRC)/Tony Watson (GBR) - Mitsubishi Colt Galant -
5. #??? George Booty (GBR)/Derek Smith (GBR) - Mitsubishi Colt Galant -

21/Race - 7-10 th
7. #??? «Crady» (ESP)/Victor Fernández (ESP) - Porsche 914/6 -
8. #??? «Squalo Rivero» (ESP)/José Goyanes (ESP) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Gekados» (ESP)/Miguel Gascón (ESP) - Seat 1430 -
10. #??? Valerio Alonso (ESP)/M. Alonso (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 Especial -

Best Regards
Américo.

sednem

4th October 2011, 16:57

Hi Guys,

Regardin ERC results, has you've seen I have also some missing results...
Those seem realy hard to find, Here's my list, If somebody can fill those holes...

56, RAC: 7-10th
56, Midnattssolen 7-10th
56, Adriatico 7-10th
57, Midnattssolen: 6-8th and 10th
58, Wisbaden: 6,7,9th
59, Wiesbaden 6,8,9 th
59, RAC Rally 7-10th
59, ACP-Aveiro Estoril 6-10th
71, Genève 7,9,10th
72, Pneumant 5-8, 10th
72, Tour de Belgique 7-10th
73, YU Rally 10th
73, Paris-St Raphael 6-10th
73, Cyprus 7-10th
73, München-Wien-Budapest 10th
74, San Marino 7-10th
74, Danube 7,9-10th
74, Lugano 7-10th
74, OASC 7-10th
75, Polar Bergslags 9-10th
76, Lucien Bianchi 7-10th
77, OASC 2-10th
77, Bosfore 6-10th

And Only Makes Chpship...
69, Baltic 3-10th

Best regards,
Américo.

focus206

4th October 2011, 18:17

Thanks Américo :)
The results you are searching seems indeed very hard too find, unfortunately I have noone of them (I suppose you have the 6th of Midnight Sun 1957, since you gave him to me earlier).

Now I would need these results:

1960
Tulip - 6th

1961
Tulip - 6th
Acropolis - 6th
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 4th and 5th

1962
Tulip - 7th and 9th
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6th

1963
Tulip - 8th

1964
Fiori - 3rd to 5th
Tulip - 4th, 5th, 7th to 10th

1965
Tulip - 6th
Munich-Wien-Budapest - 6th

Answer me when you have time and sorry again for not being able to help.
Thanks in advance.

januszsz

4th October 2011, 19:28

ERC-1972
2/Costa Brava - 6,8,10 th
6. #59 Jorge Babler (ESP)/Ernesto Borau (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
8. #60 Javier Brugué (ESP)/J. Roset (ESP) - Seat 1430-S -
10. #21 Alfonso Marcos (ESP)/R. Vial (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 - Do you have start numbers for other top 10 drivers here?

ERC-1973 :
2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th
8. #25 Antonio Melero (ESP)/Adriano Pérez de Lara (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 18873.5 pts
9. #57 Joan Tarrés (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19003.0 pts
10. #63 José María Jordá (ESP)/F.J. Casanova (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19417.8 pts
Do you have start numbers and final points for other top 10 drivers here?

4/Firestone - 10 th
10. #49 Fernando Lezama (ESP)/Juan M. Casas (ESP) - Seat 1430 - Do you have start numbers for other top 10 drivers here?

5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th
8. #??? Franco Ceccato (ITA)/Loris Roggia (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye - I have Pino Ceccato and Baggio

6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th
2. #??? Eamonn Cotter (IRL)/Paul Phelan (IRL) - BMW 2002 Tii -
5. #??? Mervyn Johnston (IRL)/??? McFarland (IRL) - Mini Cooper S -
6. #??? David Lindsay (GBR)/Jack Cunningham (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
9. #??? ??? Bridges (GBR)/Brendan Doyle (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Thomas Lawther (GBR)/??? Brown (GBR) - Mini Cooper S - Do you have positions 4th, 5th and 7th?

7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th
8. #??? Frank Pierson (GBR)/Colin Francis (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
10. #??? Bob Bean (GBR)/David Greenwood (GBR) - Ford Escort Mexico - For sure those guys are from The Welsh Rally'73

11/ Semperit - 7 th
7. #??? Erich Haberl (AUT)/Martin Pucher (AUT) - Porsche 911-S -

12/Scotish - 10 th
10. #??? David Thompson (GBR)/Maurice Isley (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1600 -

19/Munchen-Wiena-Budapest - 5 and 10 th (10th missing too)
5. #??? Jürgen Kaufhold (DEU)/??? Schucan (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S -

Best Regards
Américo.
I can't add more this time, sorry.

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

4th October 2011, 19:44

Thanks Américo :)
The results you are searching seems indeed very hard too find, unfortunately I have noone of them (I suppose you have the 6th of Midnight Sun 1957, since you gave him to me earlier).

Now I would need these results:

1960
Tulip - 6th Erik Carlsson/Walter Karlsson-S-Saab 96

1961
Tulip - 6th Odd Thrana/Leif Samsing-N-Auto Union 1000
Acropolis - 6th Keith Ballisat/Peter Jopp-GB-Sunbeam Rapier
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 4th Eugen Bohringer/Rauno Aaltonen-D/FIN-Mercedes 220SE
and 5th Roger de Lageneste/P. Burglin-F-Citroen DS19

1962
Tulip - 7th Eugen Bohringer/Peter Lang-D-Mercedes 220SEb
and 9th - sorry
Liege-Sofia-Liege - 6th Ken James/Mike Hughes-GB-Rover 3-litre

1963
Tulip - 8th Donald Morley/Erle Morley-GB-Austin Healey 3000

1964
Fiori - 3rd Piero Frescobaldi/Armeno Degli Innocenti-I-Lancia Flavia 1500
4th Velio Bartolini/Walter Bartolini-I-Alfa Romeo Giulietta TI
5th Leo Cella/Romano Ramoino-I-Lancia Flavia 1800

Tulip - 4th Henri Greder/Martial Delalande-F-Ford Falcon Sprint
5th Henry Taylor/Brian Melia-GB-Ford Cortina GT
7th to 10th - sorry just:
10th Erik Carlsson/Gunnar Palm-S-Saab 96

1965
Tulip
6th Timo Makinen/Paul Easter-FIN/GB-BMC Mini Cooper S
Munich-Wien-Budapest
6th Wilfried Gass/Willi Bretthauer-D-Porsche 911

Answer me when you have time and sorry again for not being able to help.
Thanks in advance.

Regards
Janusz

D-Type

4th October 2011, 20:08

One other result: W H Waring and W H Wadham finished 9th in the 1951 Monte Carlo rally, start number 254, registration JAA 915

focus206

4th October 2011, 20:10

Thank you januszsz
Could you please post the top 10 of Tulip Rally 1963? Because you have Donald Morley in 8th and I have him in 7th, but I trust more in your results :)

Thanks in advance

januszsz

4th October 2011, 21:18

Thank you januszsz
Could you please post the top 10 of Tulip Rally 1963? Because you have Donald Morley in 8th and I have him in 7th, but I trust more in your results :)

Thanks in advance
01 Henri Greder F Marcial Delalande F No27 Ford Falcon Sprint
02 Paddy Hopkirk IRL Henry Liddon GB No130 Morris Mini Cooper
03 Gunnar Andersson S Lennart Berggren S Volvo 122 S
04 L.H. Bakker NL Heinz Umbach NL Porsche Carrera S 90
05 Alfred Kling D Georg Kaufmann A No148 DKW F11
06 E.H. Swart NL Roberto Fusina I Fiat 1300
07 Tom Trana S Mario Pavoni S Volvo 122 S
08 Donald Morley GB Erle Morley GB Austin-Healey 3000
09 Peter Harper GB Ian Hall GB Sunbeam Rapier
10 André Guilhaudin F Henri? Balas F DKW F11

Regards
Janusz

Jagpushrod

4th October 2011, 21:24

Hello D-Type...thanks for that but i already had that info... so didnt bother to Ask, i am in contact with the 3rd Member of that team Dougie Sharp..who hopefuly will fill me in with more info as Wally Waring and Wilf Wadham have passed on..

Later in 1951 they entered the RAC in June...coming 9th in class....there was other Mk5,s on the 1951 RAC driven by S Oakes...DG. Warwick and maybe a L. Rogers and P. Herbert.

Mk5,s probably did the 52.53 and for sure the 1954 .Mr R.G Blackhurst car no. 20 was there. again any info on these RAC competitors appreciated.

D-Type

4th October 2011, 21:48

That's curious. The information I gave came from a book by Philip Porter. I would have expected a historian of his stature to have included the names of all three of the car's crew and not just two of them. Maybe it's because it's a photo caption which didn't get the same degree of scrutiny and proof reading that the main text of a book does.

sednem

4th October 2011, 22:25

I can't add more this time, sorry.

Regards
Janusz

So here's what I have for you...
ERC-1972
Costa Brava start numbers for top 10
#6, #30, #5, #58, #40, #59, #31, #60, #34, #21

ERC-1973 :
Costa Brava
Do you have start numbers and final points for other top 10 drivers here?
I'll give you full...
1. #2 Sandro Munari (ITA)/Mario Mannucci (ITA) - Lancia Fulvia 1.6 Coupé HF - 15465.0 pts
2. #1 Raffaele Pinto (ITA)/Arnaldo Bernacchini (ITA) - Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye - 15715.8 pts
3. #3 Sobieslaw Zasada (POL)/Ryszard Zyszkowski (POL) - Porsche 911-S - 16537.0 pts
4. #5 Sergio Barbasio (ITA)/Gino Macaluso (ITA) - Fiat 124 Spider - 16601.6 pts
5. #10 Juan De Cruylles (ESP)/Antonio Duran (ESP) - Seat 124 Spider - 17757.0 pts
6. #61 José Maria Xiol (ESP)/Joan Arnella (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 18075.6 pts
7. #54 Pedro Bonet (ESP)/Eudaldo Bonet (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 18661.7 pts
8. #25 Antonio Melero (ESP)/Adriano Pérez de Lara (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 18873.5 pts
9. #57 Joan Tarrés (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19003.0 pts
10. #63 José María Jordá (ESP)/F???? Casanova (ESP) - Seat 1430-S - 19417.8 pts

Firestone - 10 th
Do you have start numbers for other top 10 drivers here?
#2, #24, #12, #6, #16, #18, #8, #7, #44, #49

5/Isola d'Elba - 8 th ... - I have Pino Ceccato and Baggio...
my mistake... :(

6/Circuit of Irland - 2,5,6,9-10 th
Do you have positions 4th, 5th and 7th?
4. #??? Dessie McCartney (IRL)/Drexel Gillespie (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
5. #??? Mervyn Johnston (IRL)/??? McFarland (IRL) - Mini Cooper S -
7. #??? Rosemary Smith (IRL)/Ricky Foote (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1600 -

7/Tulpen - 8 and 10 th
For sure those guys are from The Welsh Rally'73
My Mistake... a bad Copy+paste... :(
8. #19 P. Driessen (NLD)/G. Haanen (NLD) - BMW 2002 Tii -
10. #43 Cees Hoogendoorn (NLD)/T. de Bruin (NLD) - Alfa Romeo 1600 Super -

Best regards
Américo.

januszsz

5th October 2011, 08:50

focus206

5th October 2011, 09:47

01 Henri Greder F Marcial Delalande F No27 Ford Falcon Sprint
02 Paddy Hopkirk IRL Henry Liddon GB No130 Morris Mini Cooper
03 Gunnar Andersson S Lennart Berggren S Volvo 122 S
04 L.H. Bakker NL Heinz Umbach NL Porsche Carrera S 90
05 Alfred Kling D Georg Kaufmann A No148 DKW F11
06 E.H. Swart NL Roberto Fusina I Fiat 1300
07 Tom Trana S Mario Pavoni S Volvo 122 S
08 Donald Morley GB Erle Morley GB Austin-Healey 3000
09 Peter Harper GB Ian Hall GB Sunbeam Rapier
10 André Guilhaudin F Henri? Balas F DKW F11

Regards
Janusz

Thank you januszsz

Now I'd like to know these results:

1966
Fiori - 6th and 8th

1968
Wiesbaden - 6th to 10th

1969
KAK - top 10

1970
Tour de Corse - 6th, 8th to 10th

1971
Semperit - 7th
Scottish - 6th to 10th
Geneva - 7th, 9th and 10th (seems very hard to find...)

1972
Pneumant - 5th to 8th
Belgique - 7th to 10th

Answer me when you have time :)

Thanks in advance

januszsz

5th October 2011, 20:22

Thank you januszsz

Now I'd like to know these results:

1966
Fiori - 6th Sergio Bettoja I Paolo Bulla I No62 Porsche 911
and 8th Sergio Barbasio I Giuseppe Giacomini I Renault 8 Gordini

1968
Wiesbaden - 6th to 10th -see mail No 1509 page 77

1969
KAK - top 10
01 Björn Waldegaard S Lars Helmer S No3 Porsche 911S
02 Simo Lampinen FIN Arne Hertz S No6 Saab 96 V4
03 Ove Eriksson S Hans Johanssson S Opel Kadett Rallye
04 Anders Kulläng S Donald Karlsson S Opel Kadett Rallye
05 Haakan Lindberg S Bo Reinicke S Saab 96 V4
06 Harry Källström S Gunnar Häggbom S Lancia Fulvia HF 1.3
07 Tom Trana S Sölve Andreasson S No7 Saab 96 V4
08 Stig Blomqvist S Björn Moreus S No2 Saab 96 V4
09 Carl Orrenius S Gustav Schröderheim S Saab 96 V4
10 Lille-Bror Nasenius S Bengt Frodin S No39 Opel Kadett Rallye

1970
Tour de Corse - 6th Jean-Francois Piot F Jim Porter GB No12 Ford Escort 1800
8th to 10th
08 Claude Henry F Laporte F No22 Opel Kadett
09 Pierre Maublanc F Peyrusson F No27 BMW 2002Ti
10 Claude Ballot-Lena F Jean-Claude Morenas F No17 Porsche 911S

1971
Semperit - 7th Walter Pöltinger A Johann Hartinger A Porsche 911S

Scottish - 6th to 10th
06 Drew Gallacher GB Johnny Eyres GB Ford Escort RS1600
07 Adrian Boyd IRL Beatty Crawford IRL Ford Escort TC
08 Bob Watson GB Hugh McNeil GB Ford Escort TC
09 Jack Tordoff GB Brian Marchant GB Saab 96 V4
10 Brian Culcheth GB Johnstone Syer GB Triumph 2.5 PI

Geneva - 7th, 9th and 10th (seems very hard to find...) sorry, see mail No 1487 page 75

1972
Pneumant - 5th to 8th - sorry I cant help you here
Belgique - 7th to 10th - sorry I cant help you here

Answer me when you have time :)

Thanks in advance

Regards
Janusz

focus206

6th October 2011, 10:15

Thank you januszsz

Now I'd like to know these results (probably don't have them all, but I'll post them anyway, if someone else can help me...)

1973
Danube - 3rd
Baltic - 6th to 10th
Munich-Wien-Budapest - 10th
RACE - 2nd to 6th

1974
San Marino - 7th to 10th
Hessen - 7th to 10th
Ypres - 7th, 9th, 10th
Danube - 7th, 9th, 10th
Baltic - 10th
Tour de France - 6th to 10th
Lugano - 7th to 10th
OASC - 7th to 10th

1975
Lyons-Charbonnieres - 6th, 7th
Welsh - 6th to 10th
Criterium Alpin - 3rd, 6th to 10th
RACE - 9th, 10th

Answer me when you have time :)

Thanks in advance

Steve Boyd

6th October 2011, 23:29

1975
Lyons-Charbonnieres - 6th, 7th
Welsh - 6th to 10th
Criterium Alpin - 3rd, 6th to 10th
RACE - 9th, 10th
From "The Welsh Rally" by Mark Griffin & Martin Leonard (http://www.griffinrally.com/welshrally.html):

1975
6th (#21) Chris Sclater/Martin Holmes (Datsun Violet) 215m 15s
7th (#11) Will Sparrow/Nigel Raeburn (Vauxhall Magnum) 215m 51s
8th (#24) Bob Bean/Alan Greenwood (Ford Escort RS) 217m 44s
9th (#20) Andy Dawson/David Richards (Datsun Violet) 218m 14s
10th (#72) Chris Wathen/Tim Bosence (Ford Escort RS) 218m 36s

Yes it's Bob Bean again. I think he may now have retired (I haven't seen him on an event this year) but he did the Roger Albert Clark rally last year after a driving career of more than 50 years!

RobertS

7th October 2011, 06:31

Now I'd like to know these results (probably don't have them all, but I'll post them anyway, if someone else can help me...)

1973
Danube - 3rd

(no.2)Sandro Munari - Mario Mannucci Lancia-Fulvia HF 1600 3914p. H25670-TO

Munich-Wien-Budapest - 10th

(no.31)Horst Hohlheimer - Rudolf Huber Fiat-128SC DKB-J 555

focus206

7th October 2011, 10:27

Thank you Steve and RobertS!

Now, still searching these:

1973
Baltic - 6th to 10th
RACE - 2nd to 6th

1974
San Marino - 7th to 10th
Hessen - 7th to 10th
Ypres - 7th, 9th, 10th
Danube - 7th, 9th, 10th
Baltic - 10th
Tour de France - 6th to 10th
Lugano - 7th to 10th
OASC - 7th to 10th

1975
Lyons-Charbonnieres - 6th, 7th
Criterium Alpin - 3rd, 6th to 10th
RACE - 9th, 10th

Thanks in advance

Mintexmemory

7th October 2011, 13:11

From "The Welsh Rally" by Mark Griffin & Martin Leonard (http://www.griffinrally.com/welshrally.html):

1975
6th (#21) Chris Sclater/Martin Holmes (Datsun Violet) 215m 15s
7th (#11) Will Sparrow/Nigel Raeburn (Vauxhall Magnum) 215m 51s
8th (#24) Bob Bean/Alan Greenwood (Ford Escort RS) 217m 44s
9th (#20) Andy Dawson/David Richards (Datsun Violet) 218m 14s
10th (#72) Chris Wathen/Tim Bosence (Ford Escort RS) 218m 36s

Yes it's Bob Bean again. I think he may now have retired (I haven't seen him on an event this year) but he did the Roger Albert Clark rally last year after a driving career of more than 50 years!
Bob is entered for the RAC again this year, always nice to see the Cortina.

Steve Boyd

7th October 2011, 20:27

Bob is entered for the RAC again this year, always nice to see the Cortina.
Good news. I'll look forward to that. Hope he has better luck than last year & we all have less snow!

sednem

9th October 2011, 10:52

Hi Americo,
Many thanks for your delivery. One more question: do you have data on RACE'71? I need start numbers of 5th Ruiz-Gimenez and 8th Henry. There was probably polish driver Smorawiński with BMW. Do you know something more what happened to him. Maybe you know his number?
Regards
Janusz

Nop...

Can't help you no numbers neither info about polish driver Smorawinski : only have top 10...

Best regards
Américo.

sednem

9th October 2011, 11:04

Here's what I have for you...

Thank you Steve and RobertS!

Now, still searching these:

1973
Baltic - 6th to 10th
6. #??? Morten Spiro (DNK)/Else Kristensen (DNK) - Mazda RX-2 - 8732
7. #??? Hans Kolby Hansen (DNK)/Ib Hildebrandt (DNK) - Vauxhall Viva - 9061
8. #??? Johannes Schnoor (DEU)/Jürgen Drews (DEU) - BMW 1602 - 9086
9. #??? Arild Brathen (NOR)/Asbjørn Fløene (NOR) - Datsun 1600 SSS - 9113
10. #??? John Haugland (NOR)/Arild Antonsen (NOR) - Skoda 120-S Rally - 9123

RACE - 2nd to 6th
2. #??? Estanislao Reverter (ESP)/Antonio Reverter (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
3. #??? Claude Haldi (CHE)/Federico van der Hoeven (ESP) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
4. #??? Marc Etchebers (FRA)/Marie-Christine Etchebers (FRA) - Porsche 911 -
5. #??? Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Jorge Sabater (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 Especial -
6. #??? Juan-Carlos Pradera (ESP)/Ricardo Comyn (ESP) - Seat 124 Spider -

1974
San Marino - 7th to 10th (Missing too)
Hessen - 7th to 10th
7. #??? Heinz-Walter Schewe (DEU)/Peter Linzen (DEU) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
8. #??? Jochi Kleint (DEU)/Willi-Peter Pitz (DEU) - Ford Capri 2600 -
9. #??? Wolfgang Hauck (DEU)/Horst Blessinger (DEU) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
10. #??? Rainer Altenheimer (DEU)/Willy Schleim (DEU) - Porsche 911 Carrera

Ypres - 7th, 9th, 10th
7. #19 «Moortgat» (BEL)/«Andy» (BEL) - Ford Escort RS - 1H05:53.1
9. #25 «Louvray» (BEL)/Guy Hendrickx (BEL) - BMW 2002 Tii - 1H09:04.3
10. #15 Willy Plas (BEL)/Paul Maes (BEL) - Renault 12 Gordini - 1H09:44.2

Danube - 7th, 9th, 10th (Missing too)
Baltic - 10th
10. #??? Hans Britth (SWE)/Fergus Sager (SWE) - Fiat 124 Spider -

Tour de France - 6th to 10th (NOT ERC)
Lugano - 7th to 10th (Missing too)
OASC - 7th to 10th (Missing too)

1975
Lyons-Charbonnieres - 6th, 7th
6. #??? Guy Fréquelin (FRA)/William Aidan (FRA) - Alfa Romeo GTV -
7. #??? Pierre Maublanc (FRA)/Daniel Dreyfus (FRA) - BMW 2002 turbo -

Criterium Alpin - 3rd, 6th to 10th
3. #??? Frank Ravot (FRA)/Patrick Trecco (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #??? Dominique de Meyer (FRA)/A. Argenti (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
7. #??? Bernard Pellegrin (FRA)/G. Saioni (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8. #??? Jacques Lions (FRA)/Yves Spini (FRA) - Simca Rallye 2 -
9. #??? Richard Kuss (FRA)/J. Mancini (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
10. #??? Lucien Ciais (FRA)/J-P. Avalle (FRA) - Renault 12 Gordini -

RACE - 9th, 10th
9. #23 Claudio Caba (ESP)/Miguel Galofré (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV - 3H45:06
10. #37 Werner Schweizer (DEU)/Bernd Ostmann (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S - 3H46:00

Thanks in advance

Best regards
Américo.

sednem

9th October 2011, 11:09

From "The Welsh Rally" by Mark Griffin & Martin Leonard (http://www.griffinrally.com/welshrally.html):

1975
6th (#21) Chris Sclater/Martin Holmes (Datsun Violet) 215m 15s
7th (#11) Will Sparrow/Nigel Raeburn (Vauxhall Magnum) 215m 51s
8th (#24) Bob Bean/Alan Greenwood (Ford Escort RS) 217m 44s
9th (#20) Andy Dawson/David Richards (Datsun Violet) 218m 14s
10th (#72) Chris Wathen/Tim Bosence (Ford Escort RS) 218m 36s

Yes it's Bob Bean again. I think he may now have retired (I haven't seen him on an event this year) but he did the Roger Albert Clark rally last year after a driving career of more than 50 years!

Hi Steve,
Do you have top 5 entry numbers???
Thnks
Best Regards
Américo|

feresc13

9th October 2011, 12:33

Hello!

Any of you have Rally Elba 1981 and Scottish Rally 1982 dates?

Thank you very much!

januszsz

9th October 2011, 12:49

Hi Americo

Here is top 5 of Welsh'75:

01 Roger Clark GB Jim Porter GB 1 Ford Escort RS1800 03:27:22
02 Nigel Rockey GB Ron Channon GB 5 Ford Escort RS 1600 03:31:51
03 Tony Pond GB Mike Broad GB 8 Opel Ascona 1.9 03:32:28
04 Tony Fowkes GB Bryan Harris GB 7 Ford Escort RS 1600 03:32:42
05 Russell Brookes GB John Brown GB 13 Ford Escort RS1800 03:35:13

Do you have numbers and final times of all top 10 from Ypres'74?
By the way you have "Moortgat"/"Andy" later (next years) they appeared as Rudolf Moortgat/"Andy".

Do you have numbers of top 10 RACE'75? Do you have 8th position of that rally as well as first names of 6th Trabado/Serrano?

Regards
Janusz

januszsz

9th October 2011, 12:53

Hello!

Any of you have Rally Elba 1981 and Scottish Rally 1982 dates?

Thank you very much!
Elba: 22nd-24th of April 1981
Scottish: 12th-15th of June 1982
Regards
Janusz

januszsz

9th October 2011, 12:59

Americo,
Do you have:
Firestone'72
4th-10th

Firestone'74
7th-10th

as well as number of starters/finishers of Firestone 1972-1976 and the base city for Firestone 1972, 1973, 1976 and 1979.

Regards
Janusz

feresc13

9th October 2011, 13:31

If I'm not wrong, base city for Firestone Rally was Bilbao, in fact some assistance were made on bullfighter's square.

Thank you for the data janusz ;)

feresc13

9th October 2011, 13:35

Yes, here it's a picture from rally's depart in Bullfighter's square in Bilbao

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januszsz

9th October 2011, 13:58

If I'm not wrong, base city for Firestone Rally was Bilbao, in fact some assistance were made on bullfighter's square.

Thank you for the data janusz ;)
Thank you for your input fersc13. But I have ani nformation that in 1975 it was Santander... is it the info we can trust?

Regards
Janusz

focus206

9th October 2011, 15:37

Thank you for your input fersc13. But I have ani nformation that in 1975 it was Santander... is it the info we can trust?

Regards
Janusz

Hi januszsz

You may find something useful here:
Historia del Rallye Firestone (http://www.rpmv.org/historia_firestone.htm)
It's a page in Spanish that talks about the Rally Firestone, and it seems quite reliable.

Januszsz, according to you, the Tour de France Automobile 1974 was a ERC rounds? Because I have different sources that say the opposite...

Thanks in advance

januszsz

9th October 2011, 16:12

Hi januszsz

You may find something useful here:
Historia del Rallye Firestone (http://www.rpmv.org/historia_firestone.htm)
It's a page in Spanish that talks about the Rally Firestone, and it seems quite reliable.

Januszsz, according to you, the Tour de France Automobile 1974 was a ERC rounds? Because I have different sources that say the opposite...

Thanks in advance

Thank you for the info on Firestone. I'll check the site.
I have Tour de France as a round of ERC'74. But top 3 cars were group 5 prototypes, so if it was an ERC round the ERC winner was Jacques Henry (4th overall). It is one of many questions on the past rallies.
Regards
Janusz

feresc13

9th October 2011, 16:53

Thank you for your input fersc13. But I have ani nformation that in 1975 it was Santander... is it the info we can trust?

Regards
Janusz

Yes, that's right.

There was a change at last minute and Rally started in Santander

focus206

9th October 2011, 17:44

Steve Boyd

9th October 2011, 22:07

Hi Steve,
Do you have top 5 entry numbers???
Thnks
Best Regards
Américo|
Hi Américo
I have - but you have already had them from Janusz!!

RobertS

10th October 2011, 07:57

and Maciej Stawowiak/Jan Czyżyk (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600 as well as Janusz Książkiewicz/Józef Ważny (PL) Polski Fiat 125p and Ryszard Nowicki/Wojciech Schramm (PL) Polski Fiat 125p MC1600?
Regards
Janusz
Hi Januszsz,

One thing is sure, on '75 Zlatni - Andrew Cowan run with Polski-Fiat 125p MC1600 start no.14, reg.plate 38-41-WX >

http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/4271/60682755gin.jpg

I started to scan my old slides from Bulgaria 1975.
Can you help me? Who is he on this pic.? >

http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/4034/4748.jpg

Maybe the 'young' Andrew Cowan ? >

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/4034/4748.jpg

And please write, if you have any details of Cowan's contract with Polski-Fiat in 1975!
Any other rallyes for Andrew Cowan with Polski-Fiat?

Start no.26 was 14-53-WX.

RobertS

10th October 2011, 08:18

For Rallye Zlatni Piassatzi 1975 -55. Kent Janson SWE -Ake Daliov SWE - Saab V4
Are you sure with the codriver's name?
I can not find him in any other sources...

stanislav197

10th October 2011, 08:51

Americo, help me for result ERC-1974 :2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th ;San Marino - 6-10 th ;7/Tulpen - 9 th ;9/Sant Rafael - 2 th ;12/Jamt - 8-9 th ;13/Antibes - 8-10 th ;18/Danube - 7,9,10 th ;22/Tour de France - 8-10 th ;23/Lugano - 7-10 th ;24/OASC - 7-10 th ;25/RACE - 8-10 th ;26/Sant Aman - 1,5,6,7,9 th ;;ERC - 1975 :1/Polar Bergslags - 6-10 th ;2/Galway - 6,7,9,10 th ;4/Costa Brava - 8-10th ;6/Lion-Charbonie -8 th ;7/De la Giralia - 3,4,7,9,10 th ;8/Firestone - 7,9 th ;9/Circuit of Irland -7,9 th ;10/Turaine 2,3,8,9 th ;11/Isola d'Elba - 7 th ;14/Lucien Bianchi - 9 th ;15/Yu - 8 th ;18/Alpin - 6,7,9,10 th ;22/Antibes - 5 th ;23/Ypres - 8,10 th ;30/RACE - 6,8 th . Thanks.

stanislav197

10th October 2011, 08:57

ERC Rally Ypres - 1974 - Real names -7.«Andy»-???????? (BEL) navigator of Moortgat and 9.«Louvray»-????????? (BEL)

Martin Liddle

10th October 2011, 13:20

Yes it's Bob Bean again. I think he may now have retired (I haven't seen him on an event this year)
Time for new glasses Steve? Trackrod Historic Cup 2011 Final Overall Positions after stage 6 - Langdale 1 (http://www.tynecomp.co.uk/Results/MSA_british_11/Yorkshire/2/current.html)

ps Thanks for your help on Saturday.

sednem

10th October 2011, 16:06

Thanks Janusz...

Hi Americo

Do you have numbers and final times of all top 10 from Ypres'74?
By the way you have "Moortgat"/"Andy" later (next years) they appeared as Rudolf Moortgat/"Andy".

Do you have numbers of top 10 RACE'75? Do you have 8th position of that rally as well as first names of 6th Trabado/Serrano?

Regards
Janusz

Here's what I have for Ypres 74
1. #2 Gilbert Staepelaere (BEL)/«Jimmy» (BEL) - Ford Escort RS - 59:19.8
2. #4 «Pedro» (ESP)/Eric Symens (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H00:35.4
3. #7 Serge Laurent (FRA)/Philippe Hammelrath (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H01:07.7
4. #3 Jean-Pierre Nicolas (FRA)/Christian Delferrier (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H01:48.5
5. #9 Maurice Nusbaumer (FRA)/Luc Pyncket (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 1H01:58.9
6. #11 Jean-Paul Rieu (FRA)/Antoon Daemers (BEL) - Porsche Carrera - 1H03:25.9
7. #19 «Moortgat» (BEL)/«Andy» (BEL) - Ford Escort RS - 1H05:53.1
8. #5 Walter Röhrl (DEU)/Lars Carlsson (SWE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR - 1H07:31.1
9. #25 «Louvray» (BEL)/Guy Hendrickx (BEL) - BMW 2002 Tii - 1H09:04.3
10. #15 Willy Plas (BEL)/Paul Maes (BEL) - Renault 12 Gordini - 1H09:44.2

Regardin "Moortgat" and all the others that used nick-names, that's an issue with my DB :o nly one "name shown"... must fix this but there is so many other things to do...

and RACE'75

1. #2 Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Eduardo Martinez Adam (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H17:22
2. #5 Claude Haldi (CHE)/Bernard Sandoz (CHE) - Porsche Carrera RS - 3H21:28
3. #10 Lucas Sáinz (ESP)/José Antonio Zorrilla (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 3H24:52
4. #6 Salvador Cañellas (ESP)/Daniel Ferrater (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H26:09
5. #20 Marc Etchebers (FRA)/Marie-Christine Etchebers (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii - 3H30:54
6. #11 Carlos Trabado (ESP)/Juan-Luis Serrano (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H33:54
7. #26 Genito Ortíz (ESP)/Maria Jesús Cabal (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 3H35:14
8. #37 F. Dameto (ESP)/E.García Gascó (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H41:31
9. #23 Claudio Caba (ESP)/Miguel Galofré (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV - 3H45:06
10. #38 Werner Schweizer (DEU)/Bernd Ostmann (DEU) - Opel Ascona 1.6S - 3H46:00

Best regards
Américo

sednem

10th October 2011, 16:47

Here they are...

Americo,

Firestone'72
4th-10th
4. #??? José Pavón (ESP)/Ricardo Antolín (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
5. #??? Marc Etchebers (FRA)/Marie-Christine Etchebers (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
6. #??? Roger van der Schrick (BEL)/Christian Delferrier (BEL) - Porsche 911-S -
7. #5 Estanislao Reverter (ESP)/Manuel González (ESP) - Alpine-Porsche A110 -
8. #??? Jean-François Más (FRA)/B. Gass (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? «Pancho» (ESP)/??? Sánchez (ESP) - Ford Capri 2600 -
10. #??? Eugénio Baturone (ESP)/Daniel Ferrater (ESP) - AlpineSeat Proto -

Firestone'74
7th-10th
7. #??? Julio Gargallo (ESP)/Ignacio Lewin (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
8. #??? Juan Carlos Oñoro (ESP)/Juan Petisco (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
9. #??? Paul Olsen (DNK)/Karsten Richardt (DNK) - BMW 2002 Tii -
10. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/"Ynad" (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

as well as number of starters/finishers of Firestone 1972-1976 and the base city for Firestone 1972, 1973, 1976 and 1979.
1972: (Bilbao) Ent=91, Start=65 Finish=45
1973: (Bilbao) Ent=96, Start=71 Finish=27
1974: (Bilbao) Ent=101, Start=81 Finish=26
1975: (Santander) Ent=??, Start=72 Finish=27
1976: (Bilbao) Ent=80, Start=61 Finish=23

Regards
Janusz

Best regards
Américo

sednem

10th October 2011, 16:56

Thank you for the info on Firestone. I'll check the site.
I have Tour de France as a round of ERC'74. But top 3 cars were group 5 prototypes, so if it was an ERC round the ERC winner was Jacques Henry (4th overall). It is one of many questions on the past rallies.
Regards
Janusz

Hi,

according to Autocourse 1974 TDF was not listed within ERC/WRC results... (take a look into Autocourse - 1974 digital edition (http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&pnum=&refresh=6m1LyF8003aH&EID=1a74c47f-9a30-49ae-b166-6a61360b4e2d&skip)=)

In the middle 70's, races accepting group 5 (prototypes) car was retired from Champship (Same problem occured with some UK races at that time...)

Best regards
Américo.

sednem

10th October 2011, 17:09

Americo, help me for

ERC-1974 :
2/Costa Brava - 8-10 th
8. #??? Ernesto Borau (ESP)/J. Villa (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18043 pts
9. #??? Joan Tarrés (ESP)/P. Vinyes (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18114 pts
10. #??? José Marco (ESP)/J. Wenceslao (ESP) - BMW 2002 Tii - 18186 pts
San Marino - 6-10 th (Missing too)
6. #??? Bruno Ferraris (ITA)/Daniele Cianci (ITA) - Lancia Fulvia 1.6 Coupé HF - 6H40:52

7/Tulpen - 9 th
9. #30 Peter van ‘t Hof (NLD)/Jaap Korpershoek (NLD) - DAF 66 -
9/Sant Rafael - 2 th
2. #??? Anny-Charlotte Verney (FRA)/??? Legou (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS - 2H48:36
12/Jamt - 8-9 th
8. #??? Ingemar Frohm (SWE)/A. Skarstrom (SWE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 -
9. #??? Karl-Gunnar Hillberg (SWE)/R.O. Pålsson (SWE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 -
13/Antibes - 8-10 th
8. #14 Alain Lion (FRA)/Christian Beffara (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
9. #133 Pierre Carestia (FRA)/R. Prelatti (FRA) - Opel 1900 -
10. #23 Georges Chiodi (FRA)/«Lulu» (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
18/Danube - 7,9,10 th (Missing too)
22/Tour de France - 8-10 th (NOT ERC)
23/Lugano - 7-10 th (Missing too)
24/OASC - 7-10 th (Missing too)
25/RACE - 8-10 th
8. #26 José Buixeda (ESP)/F. Dreyer (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
9. #34 Jesus Manso (ESP)/E. Prieto (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
10. #33 «Niki» (ESP)/T. Diaz (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 -
26/Sant Aman - 1,5,6,7,9 th
1. #??? Maurice Nusbaumer (FRA)/P. Prat (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 2H49:43.0
5. #??? Roger Boulinguez (FRA)/Christian Gilbert (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 2H55:44.3
6. #??? Francis Leclercq (FRA)/Jean-Claude Leclercq (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - 2H56:41.0
7. #??? «Archy» (FRA)/Philippe Ravaze (FRA) - Opel Commodore GS/E - 2H57:11.2
9. #??? Pierre Bos (FRA)/R. Stahl (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii - 2H58:49.1
ERC - 1975:
1/Polar Bergslags - 6-10 th (missing 9&10)
7. #??? ??? Wallin (SWE)/??? Eriksson (SWE) - Ford Escort RS -
8. #??? Leif Andersson (SWE)/??? Kingsmo (SWE) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
2/Galway - 6,7,9,10 th
6. #??? Philip McCartan (GBR)/A. Rice (GBR) - Ford Escort BDA -
7. #??? Joe Pat O'Kane (GBR)/Roy Sloan (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -
9. #??? Ronnie McCartney (IRL)/L. Weir (IRL) - Mazda RX3 -
10. #??? R. Murphy (GBR)/G. Brittain (GBR) - Vauxhall Magnum -
4/Costa Brava - 8-10th
8. #23 Jacques Régis (FRA)/Chantal Argellies (FRA) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR - 17346.5
9. #87 José María Jordá (ESP)/J.E. Monforte (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18088.7
10. #81 Javier Olcina (ESP)/Maria Sargatal (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18342.8
6/Lion-CharbonieRES -8 th
8. #??? Alexandre Talenti (FRA)/Claude Carret (FRA) - BMW 2002 Tii -
7/De la Giralia - 3,4,7,9,10 th
3. #??? Jean-Marie Soriano (FRA)/??? Alberolla (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
4. #??? Daniel Rognoni (FRA)/A. Moretti (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
7. #??? Guy Fréquelin (FRA)/??? Marchioni (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
9. #??? Ange Marie Venturini (FRA)/??? Simonini (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
10. #??? ??? Lecaille (FRA)/??? Maissa (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8/Firestone - 7,9 th
7. #??? Jaime Castellanos (ESP)/José María Abans (ESP) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? ??? Gomez (ESP)/??? Toca (ESP) - Porsche Carrera -
9/Circuit of Irland -7,9 th
7. #??? Brendan Fagan (IRL)/Andy Johnston (IRL) - Ford Escort BDA -
9. #??? Charlie Gunn (IRL)/H. McEvoy (IRL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
10/Turaine 2,3,8,9 th
2. #??? Jean-Louis Philippe (FRA)/J.P. Royot (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
3. #??? Jean-François Más (FRA)/B. Gass (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
8. #??? Jean-Claude Lefèbvre (FRA)/Jean-Philippe Grand (FRA) - Opel Commodore GS/E -
9. #??? Pierre Desilles (FRA)/C. Desilles (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
11/Isola d'Elba - 7 th
7. #36 Massimo Cambiaghi (ITA)/Jean-Marie Combe (FRA) - Porsche Carrera -
14/Lucien Bianchi - 9 th
9. #22 Jean Claude Mounal (FRA)/Lionel L'Homme (FRA) - Ford Capri RS -
15/Yu - 8 th
8. #??? Václav Blahna (CZE)/Iván Balik (CSK) - Skoda 120-S Rally -
18/Alpin - 6,7,9,10 th
6. #??? Dominique de Meyer (FRA)/A. Argenti (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
7. #??? Bernard Pellegrin (FRA)/G. Saioni (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
9. #??? Richard Kuss (FRA)/J. Mancini (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV -
10. #??? Lucien Ciais (FRA)/J-P. Avalle (FRA) - Renault 12 Gordini -
22/Antibes - 5 th
5. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/"Ynad" (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
23/Ypres - 8,10 th
8. #??? Ricardo Muñoz (ESP)/Ronny Deruyter (BEL) - Seat 1430/1800 -
10. #??? Roger Engels (BEL)/Picry (BEL) - Porsche Carrera -
30/RACE - 6,8 th
6. #11 Carlos Trabado (ESP)/Juan-Luis Serrano (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H33:54
8. #37 F. Dameto (ESP)/E.García Gascó (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H41:31

Thanks.

Best Regards
Américo

sednem

10th October 2011, 17:11

I Have

«Moortgat» : Rudolf Moortgat
«Andy» : André Schelstraete
«Louvray» : ???????? ???????

Best regards.
Américo

januszsz

10th October 2011, 21:51

Hi,

according to Autocourse 1974 TDF was not listed within ERC/WRC results... (take a look into Autocourse - 1974 digital edition (http://edition.pagesuite-professional.co.uk/launch.aspx?referral=other&pnum=&refresh=6m1LyF8003aH&EID=1a74c47f-9a30-49ae-b166-6a61360b4e2d&skip)=)
In the middle 70's, races accepting group 5 (prototypes) car was retired from Champship (Same problem occured with some UK races at that time...)

Best regards
Américo.

Hi Americo,
Thank you for delivery and special thanks for Autocourse digital link. It's pity I can find only that (1974) edition. The other I could find (1976) did not contain a chapter on rallies.
Looking at your last answers I pressume that you can help me with some other data:
Antibes 1974 numbers of 1st, 3rd, and 5th-7th overall,
RACE 1974 numbers of 1st-7th overall and first name of Beny Fernandes' co-driver a certain Costa,
Saint Amand 1974 8th overall,
Costa Brava 1975 numbers and final times of 1st-7th overall and first names of 7th Galo/Graforte and 6th Eleuterio Serra/..... Mor; do you know number of polish driver Stawowiak (retired with Polski Fiat 125p)?
Elba 1975 top 10 numbers,
Bianchi 1975 top 10 numbers
YU 1975 codriver of 7th Bohne and 9th Einberger

It looks you have a book on Tulip Rally. May you share top 10 numbers of all Tulips 1953-1978? (except of 1973 - the only I have).

Regards
Janusz

focus206

10th October 2011, 22:41

Hi everyone,

I'd like to know these results:

1976
Costa Brava - 2nd to 7th
Tour de France - 7th to 9th
RACE - 4th to 9th

1977
Circuit of Ireland - 2nd to 10th
Antibes - 2nd to 5th
Ypres - 4th to 6th, 8th, 10th

1978
Sachs Winter - 2nd to 10th
Halkidikis - 2nd, 3rd

1979
Arctic - 3rd to 10th
Circuit of Ireland - 6th to 10th
Halkidikis - 3rd to 5th
Tour de France - 7th to 10th
RACE - 6th to 10th

Answer me when you have time :)

Thanks in advance

Steve Boyd

10th October 2011, 23:58

Time for new glasses Steve? Trackrod Historic Cup 2011 Final Overall Positions after stage 6 - Langdale 1 (http://www.tynecomp.co.uk/Results/MSA_british_11/Yorkshire/2/current.html)

ps Thanks for your help on Saturday.
I do have an (albeit feeble) excuse - I was in the service at Weaponness that was only used by the BRC, Challenge & Landrovers on the Trackrod - but I'll take the hint and make a note to self to read more thoroughly the results that your excellent subscription service provides!

sednem

11th October 2011, 08:22

Hi Janusz

Hi Americo,

Antibes 1974 numbers of 1st, 3rd, and 5th-7th overall,
1. #1, 3. #44, 5. #6, 6. #121, 7. #45

RACE 1974 numbers of 1st-7th overall and first name of Beny Fernandes' co-driver a certain Costa,
1. #4, 2. #7, 3. #9, 4. #16, 5. #30, 6. #24, 7. #27
All I have is: F. Costa

Saint Amand 1974 8th overall,
8. #??? Roger Berndtson (FRA)/Eric Symens (BEL) - Opel Commodore GS/E - 2H57:46.1

Costa Brava 1975 numbers and final times of 1st-7th overall
1. #8, 2. #25, 3. #5, 4. #2, 5. #14,
and first names of 7th Galo/Graforte and 6th Eleuterio Serra/..... Mor;
6. #26 Teri Serra (ESP)/Ana-Maria Mor (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 16094.9 (Teri is short for of Eleuterio)
7. #60 Claudio Caba (ESP)/Miguel Galofré (ESP) - Alfa Romeo GTV - 17287.1
do you know number of polish driver Stawowiak (retired with Polski Fiat 125p)?
ABD 20 Maciej Stawowiak (POL)/Jan Czyzyk (POL) - Polski Fiat / Polski Fiat 125p -

Elba 1975 top 10 numbers, (nop... missing too)
Bianchi 1975 top 10 numbers
1. #8, 2. #4, 3. #9, 4. #1, 5. #34, 6. #21, 7. #27, 8. #???, 9. #22, 10. #26

YU 1975 codriver of 7th Bohne and 9th Einberger
7. #??? Holger Bohne (DEU)/Franz-Josef Moorman (DEU) - Opel Ascona -
9. #??? Heinz Einberger (AUT)/Günther Böhs (AUT) - BMW 2002 Tii -

It looks you have a book on Tulip Rally. May you share top 10 numbers of all Tulips 1953-1978? (except of 1973 - the only I have).
For you I have this link: Tulpenrallye (http://www.tulpenrallye.nl/archief/??PHPSESSID=d149c54936cdb30975fa7a88a3cf558e)

Regards
Janusz

Best Regards
Américo

sednem

11th October 2011, 08:34

Hi everyone,

I'd like to know these results:

1976
Costa Brava - 2nd to 7th
2. #??? Salvador Servià (ESP)/Jordi Sabater (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 4H00:19
3. #??? Fernando Lezama (ESP)/José María Abans (ESP) - Ford Escort RS - 4H02:28
4. #??? António Borges (PRT)/Pina de Morais (PRT) - Porsche Carrera - 4H04:28
5. #??? Teri Serra (ESP)/Jaume Vizern (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 4H10:22
6. #??? Werner Schweizer (DEU)/Bernd Ostmann (DEU) - Opel Kadett - 4H17:41
7. #??? Claudio Caba (ESP)/Joan Aymami (ESP) - Alfa Romeo 2000 GTV - 4H21:00

Tour de France - 7th to 9th (NOT ERC)
RACE - 4th to 9th
4. #??? Fernando Lezama (ESP)/José María Abans (ESP) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 3H38:02
5. #??? Salvador Cañellas (ESP)/Daniel Ferrater (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 - 3H41:12
6. #??? Pedro Bonet (ESP)/Joan Arnella (ESP) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 3H44:23
7. #??? I. Arroitia (ESP)/Juan-Carlos Pradera (ESP) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 3H53:06
8. #??? Genito Ortíz (ESP)/Maria Jesús Cabal (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 3H54:00
9. #??? Carlos Torres (PRT)/Pina de Morais (PRT) - Mazda RX3 - 4H03:07

1977
Circuit of Ireland - 2nd to 10th
2. #??? Billy Coleman (IRL)/Peter Scott (XNI) - Chequered Flag / Lancia Stratos HF -
3. #??? Ove Andersson (SWE)/Paul Phelan (IRL) - Toyota / Toyota Celica -
4. #??? Andy Dawson (GBR)/Rodney Spokes (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
5. #??? Brian Nelson (IRL)/Malcolm Neill (IRL) - Porsche Carrera -
6. #??? Will Sparrow (GBR)/Barry Hughes (GBR) - Chrysler Avenger -
7. #??? Jimmy McRae (GBR)/David Brown (GBR) - Vauxhall Magnum Coupé -
8. #??? David Agnew (GBR)/Robert Harkness (GBR) - BMW 2002 Tii -
9. #??? Ken Shields (GBR)/Peter Lyster (GBR) - Porsche Carrera -
10. #??? Malcolm Wilson (GBR)/John Davies (GBR) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

Antibes - 2nd to 5th
2. #??? Michèle Mouton (FRA)/Françoise Conconi (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 2,7L -
3. #??? Gérard Swaton (FRA)/Bernard Cordesse (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 2,7L -
4. #??? Francis Bondil (FRA)/Alain Brunel (FRA) - Porsche Carrera -
5. #??? Jean-Louis Clarr (FRA)/Jean-François Fauchille (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

Ypres - 4th to 6th, 8th, 10th
4. #??? Billy Coleman (IRL)/David Richards (GBR) - Chequered Flag / Lancia Stratos HF - + 07:51
5. #??? Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Juan Petisco (ESP) - Seat Competición / Seat 124/1800 - + 09:49
6. #??? Salvador Cañellas (ESP)/Daniel Ferrater (ESP) - Seat Competición / Seat 124/1800 - + 11:38
8. #??? Aloyse Kridel (LUX)/Paul Dunkel (LUX) - Ford Escort RS2000 - + 12:50
10. #??? Jan van der Marel (NLD)/Erwin Berkhof (NLD) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 14:06

1978
Sachs Winter - 2nd to 10th
2. #??? Holger Bohne (DEU)/Peter Diekmann (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 - + 8:00
3. #??? Achim Warmbold (DEU)/Hanno Menne (DEU) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 9:34
4. #??? Dieter Günther (DEU)/Jutta Fellbaum (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 - +10:37
5. #??? Joachim Knollmann (DEU)/Klaus Hopfe (DEU) - Audi 80 - +12:46
6. #??? Jörgen Hansen (DNK)/Keld Christiansen (DNK) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
7. #??? Jochi Kleint (DEU)/Andreas Hänsch (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
8. #??? Hans-Peter Herrmann (DEU)/Michael Schwägerl (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
9. #??? Jens-Ole Kristiansen (DNK)/Niels Erik Pedersen (DNK) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
10. #??? Eberhard Kromm (DEU)/Wolfgang Inhester (DEU) - Ford Escort RS -

Halkidikis - 2nd, 3rd
2. #??? «Sirocco» (GRC)/Manólis Makrinos (GRC) - Lancia Stratos HF -
3. #??? Franz Wittmann (AUT)/Kurt Nestinger (AUT) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

1979
Arctic - 3rd to 10th
3. #15 Robbie Gröndahl (FIN)/Matti Lammi (FIN) - Saab 96 V4 - + 1:57
4. #18 Kalevi Aho (FIN)/Pekka Kaipainen (FIN) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 3:25
5. #17 Peter Geitel (FIN)/Rolf Mesterton (FIN) - Chrysler Avenger - + 3:44
6. #36 Jouni Kinnunen (FIN)/Esa Verkala (FIN) - Ford Escort RS2000 - + 6:54
7. #26 Timo Jouhki (FIN)/Juha Piironen (FIN) - Ford Escort RS - + 7:00
8. #12 Hannu Valtahaarju (FIN)/Risto Anttila (FIN) - Ford Escort RS - + 7:32
9. #6 Erkki Pitkänen (FIN)/Seppo Harjanne (FIN) - Chrysler Avenger - + 8:50
10. #22 Mikaël Sundström (FIN)/Rauno Sorjonen (FIN) - Chrysler Avenger - + 9:13

Circuit of Ireland - 6th to 10th
6. #4 Stig Blomqvist (SWE)/Björn Cederberg (SWE) - Saab Scania / Saab 99 Turbo - 538.23
7. #18 Brian Culcheth (GBR)/Neil Wilson (GBR) - Dealer Opel Team / Opel Kadett GT/E - 544.48
8. #25 John Lyons (GBR)/Jimmy Davison (GBR) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 554.41
9. #38 James Logan (GBR)/Derek Ervine (GBR) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 561.57
10. #32 Trevor Cathers (GBR)/Bert Young (GBR) - Chrysler Avenger - 571.08

Halkidikis - 3rd to 5th
3. #??? «Iaveris» (GRC)/Kóstas Stefanis (GRC) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 4H20:36
4. #??? Iórgos Moschous (GRC)/«Simetra» (GRC) - Datsun 160 J - 4H23:22
5. #??? Vangelis Gallo (GRC)/Andreas Arkentis (GRC) - Datsun 160 J - 4H32:26

Tour de France - 7th to 10th
7. #143 Jean-Louis Ravenel (FRA)/Claude Buchet (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
8. #149 R. Dienon (FRA)/Daniel Brichot (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
9. #136 Philippe Noyer (FRA)/Claudine Causse (FRA) - Porsche Carrera RS -
10. #176 Gilles Lemeunier (FRA)/Hubert Chalvet (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

RACE - 6th to 10th
6. #??? Guy Colsoul (BEL)/Alain Lopes (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 21:57
7. #??? Ricardo Muñoz (ESP)/??? Fernández (ESP) - Porsche Carrera - + 22:34
8. #??? José-Luis Sallent (ESP)/Jordi Puvill (ESP) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 23:37
9. #??? José Pedro Borges (PRT)/Rui Bevilacqua (PRT) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 27:17
10. #??? Carlos Torres (PRT)/Pedro de Almeida (PRT) - Ford Escort RS2000 - + 29:11

Thanks in advance

Best regards
Américo.

stanislav197

11th October 2011, 12:07

Americo, help me for result ERC - 1976 :1/Janer -8 th ;3/Galway - 4,6,8-10 th ;5/Sachs Winter - 7-10 th ;6/Costa Brava -8-10 th ;7/Lion-Charbonie - 10 th ;9/Firestone - 10 th ;11/Lugano - 8-10 th ;17/Alpin - 3,8,10 th ;18/Bianchi - 3,7-10 th ;19/Hesen - 8 th ;21/4 Regioni - 9 th ;23/Donegal - 6-7 th ;24/Ypres - 5 and 10 th ;25/Antibes - 5,6,8,10 th ;29/San Martino di K. - 10 th ;33/RACE - 7 and 10 th ;34/Sant Aman - 3,8,10 th .Thanks.

focus206

11th October 2011, 14:01

Thank you very much Américo :)

Now I'd like to know these results:

1980
Costa Brava - 6th to 10th
Scottish - 10th
Antibes - 5th
Ypres - 10th
Hunsruck - 6th to 8th
Halkidikis - 9th, 10th
RACE - 1st, 6th to 10th

1981
Costa Brava - 2nd to 10th
RACE - 1st, 3rd to 10th
Costa Smeralda - 6th to 10th
Hunsruck - top 10
Halkidikis - 2nd to 8th
Antibes - 2nd to 10th

1982
Costa Smeralda - 6th to 10th
Criterium Alpin - 2nd to 5th
Hunsruck - 1st to 3rd, 5th to 10th
Halkidikis - 2nd to 5th
Tour de France - 8th, 10th
Antibes - 2nd to 8th

Answer me when you have time.

Thanks in advance

januszsz

11th October 2011, 17:42

Hi Americo,
Thank you very much for informations. That Tulip Rally site is great!
There are some new questions:

Costa Brava 1975 - final times of 1st-5th and 8th-10th;
Costa Brava 1976 - who was 8th-10th plus their times if possible
Circuit of Ireland 1979 - number of 5th D.McCartney
Tour de France 1979 - numbers of top 6
RACE 1979 - first name of 4th Augustin

Regards
Janusz

Jagpushrod

13th October 2011, 22:59

I have found out that the Warwick brothers who entered the Monte in 1950 and 51 in a Mk5 came from St Albans...Hertfordshire...can that info shed any light ??

Emulman

13th October 2011, 23:01

hello! i have found this thread, very very interesting...i see it's divided into three parts, where is the first?? thank you!

sednem

17th October 2011, 08:50

Hi Stanislav...

Americo, help me for result ERC - 1976 :1/Janer -8 th ;3/Galway - 4,6,8-10 th ;5/Sachs Winter - 7-10 th ;6/Costa Brava -8-10 th ;7/Lion-Charbonie - 10 th ;9/Firestone - 10 th ;11/Lugano - 8-10 th ;17/Alpin - 3,8,10 th ;18/Bianchi - 3,7-10 th ;19/Hesen - 8 th ;21/4 Regioni - 9 th ;23/Donegal - 6-7 th ;24/Ypres - 5 and 10 th ;25/Antibes - 5,6,8,10 th ;29/San Martino di K. - 10 th ;33/RACE - 7 and 10 th ;34/Sant Aman - 3,8,10 th .Thanks.

1976 :
1/Janer -8 th
8. #??? ??? Kranzelbinder (AUT)/G. Fabjan (AUT) - Porsche 911-S -

3/Galway - 4,6,8-10 th
4. #??? Dennis Easthope (GBR)/M. Castle (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS - 292.52
6. #??? Geoff Crabtree (GBR)/David Marston (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS - 303.51
8. #??? Charlie Gunn (IRL)/H. McEvoy (IRL) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 309.33
9. #??? James Logan (GBR)/Derek Ervine (GBR) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
10. #??? John Coyne (IRL)/Patrick Potts (IRL) - Hillman Avenger -

5/Sachs Winter - 7-10 th (Not ERC)
6/Costa Brava -8-10 th
8. #??? Salvador Bohigas (ESP)/A. Navarro (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 4H23:53
9. #??? Eudaldo Bonet (ESP)/J. Lledo (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 4H25:13
10. #??? Octavi Candela (ESP)/Maria-J. Prat (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 4H28:29

7/Lion-Charbonie - 10 th
10. #??? Jean Meunier (FRA)/A. Moretti (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

9/Firestone - 10 th
10. #67 Guillermo O'Shea (ESP)/R. Pascual (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 4H09:36

11/Lugano - 8-10 th
8. #??? S. Galfetti (CHE)/Enzo Bernasconi (CHE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -
9. #??? F. Gerard (CHE)/D. Vanoutryve (CHE) - Simca Rallye 2 -
10. #??? M. Romanello (ITA)/I. Romanello (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Alfasud -

17/Alpin - 3,8,10 th
3. #??? Christine Dacremont (FRA)/Yveline Vanoni (FRA) - Lancia Stratos HF -
8. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/G. Biocchini (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
10. #??? Dominique de Meyer (FRA)/A. Argenti (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

18/Bianchi - 3,7-10 th :missing too
3. #??? Maurice Nusbaumer (FRA)/Freddy Paul (BEL) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

19/Hesen - 8 th
8. #??? ??? Heinrich (DEU)/??? Schmidt (DEU) - Opel Ascona -

21/4 Regioni - 9 th
9. #??? Leo Pittoni (ITA)/Dino Buzzati (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GT -

23/Donegal - 6-7 th
6. #??? George Hill (GBR)/Donald Grieve (GBR) - Vauxhall Magnum Coupé -
7. #??? John McLean (GBR)/Martin Whale (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -

24/Ypres - 5 and 10 th
5. #??? «Gustavson» (BEL)/N. de Langhe (BEL) - Porsche Carrera -
10. #??? Paul Maes (BEL)/??? Mowers (BEL) - Audi 80 GT -

25/Antibes - 5,6,8,10 th
5. #??? J-P. Barbagianni (FRA)/J-L. Barthelat (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
6. #??? Dominique de Meyer (FRA)/Jacques Bolla (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8. #??? Jean-Jacques Audouard (FRA)/Patrick Magdinier (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
10. #??? Christian Cerf (FRA)/Y. Cavalier (FRA) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

29/San Martino di K. - 10 th
10. #??? Carlo Mancini (ITA)/«Giovanni» (ITA) - Porsche Carrera -

33/RACE - 7 and 10 th
7. #??? I. Arroitia (ESP)/Juan-Carlos Pradera (ESP) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 3H53:06
10. #??? Jose-Luis Echave (ESP)/José Uriarte (ESP) - Simca 1200-S - 4H04:16

34/Sant Aman - 3,8,10 th
3. #??? Francis Leclercq (FRA)/Jean-Claude Leclercq (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -
8. #??? Dominic Bonnay (FRA)/Daniel Jacobus (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
10. #??? Daniel Brichot (FRA)/??? Baldoin (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

Best Regards
Américo.

sednem

17th October 2011, 08:57

Hi Janusz

Hi Americo,
Thank you very much for informations. That Tulip Rally site is great!
There are some new questions:

Costa Brava 1975 - final times of 1st-5th and 8th-10th;
1. #8 Maurizio Verini (ITA)/Francesco Rossetti (ITA) - FIAT / Fiat Abarth 124 Rallye - 14732.3
2. #25 Juan-Carlos Pradera (ESP)/Juan Petisco (ESP) - FASA Renault / Alpine-Renault A110 - 15078.0
3. #5 Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Jorge Sabater (ESP) - SEAT Sport / Seat 1430/1800 - 15094.0
4. #2 Walter Röhrl (DEU)/Jochen Berger (DEU) - Opel Euro HT / Opel Ascona 1.9 SR - 15164.5
5. #14 Andrzej Jaroszewicz (POL)/Ryszard Zyszkowski (POL) - Polski Fiat / Fiat 124 Spider - 15658.5
6. #26 Teri Serra (ESP)/Ana-Maria Mor (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 16094.9
7. #60 Claudio Caba (ESP)/Miguel Galofré (ESP) - Alfa Romeo GTV - 17287.1
8. #23 Jacques Régis (FRA)/Chantal Argellies (FRA) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR - 17346.5
9. #87 José María Jordá (ESP)/J.E. Monforte (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18088.7
10. #81 Javier Olcina (ESP)/Maria Sargatal (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 18342.8

Costa Brava 1976 - who was 8th-10th plus their times if possible
8. #??? Salvador Bohigas (ESP)/A. Navarro (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 4H23:53
9. #??? Eudaldo Bonet (ESP)/J. Lledo (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 4H25:13
10. #??? Octavi Candela (ESP)/Maria-J. Prat (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 - 4H28:29

Circuit of Ireland 1979 - number of 5th D.McCartney #28

Tour de France 1979 - numbers of top 6 :
#102, #100, #106, #108, #144, #138

RACE 1979 - first name of 4th Augustin
Augustin I have it in 5th...
4. #??? Blazej Krupa (POL)/Piotr Mystkowski (POL) - Renault 5 Alpine - + 21:25
5. #??? Eduardo Agustín (ESP)/Leopoldo Varela (ESP) - Simca 1200 Ti - + 21:31

Regards
Janusz

Best regards
Américo.

sednem

17th October 2011, 09:11

Hi Focus

Thank you very much Américo :)

Now I'd like to know these results:

1980
Costa Brava - 6th to 10th
6. #7 José-Luis Sallent (ESP)/Jordi Puvill (ESP) - Opel Ascona RS - + 27:56
7. #27 Jorge Cid (ESP)/Jorge Pons (ESP) - Ford Escort RS2000 - + 29:18
8. #19 Joan Bayó (ESP)/Joan Molina (ESP) - Seat 124/2000 - + 33:12
9. #6 Maurizio Verini (ITA)/Mauro Mannini (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV turbo - + 36:13
10. #11 Blazej Krupa (POL)/Piotr Mystkowski (POL) - Renault 5 Alpine - + 36:39
Scottish - 10th
10. #28 Geoff Fielding (GBR)/Tony Goulding (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
Antibes - 5th
5. #??? Jean-Pierre Ballet (FRA)/Gérard Kerespert (FRA) - Porsche 911-S - 7H12:52
Ypres - 10th
10. #26 Henk Vossen (NLD)/Pie Theunissen (NLD) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
Hunsruck - 6th to 8th
6. #??? Bernard Béguin (FRA)/Jean-Jacques Lenne (FRA) - Porsche 911 SC - 6H33:46
7. #??? Klaus Fritzinger (DEU)/Michael Schwägerl (DEU) - Lancia Stratos HF - 6H33:46
8. #??? Rolf Petersen (DEU)/André Bockelmann (DEU) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 6H34:35
Halkidikis - 9th, 10th
9. #??? Manolis Halivelakis (GRC)/Dimítris Petropoulos (GRC) - Toyota Corolla -
10. #??? «Leonidas» (GRC)/Andreas Arkentis (GRC) - Renault 5 Alpine -
RACE - 1st, 6th to 10th
1. #??? Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Jorge Sabater (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - 4H12:46
6. #??? Enrique Villar (ESP)/Federico Garret (ESP) - Porsche 911 - + 21:17
7. #??? José Gonçalves (PRT)/Miguel Oliveira (PRT) - Ford Escort RS - + 24:34
8. #??? Joaquim Moutinho (PRT)/Pina de Morais (PRT) - Opel Ascona - + 27:30
9. #??? Carlos Torres (PRT)/António Morais (PRT) - Ford Escort RS - + 29:30
10. #??? Blazej Krupa (POL)/Piotr Mystkowski (POL) - Renault 5 Alpine - + 33:57
1981
Costa Brava - 2nd to 10th
2. #8 Jean-Claude Andruet (FRA)/«Biche» (FRA) - Ferrari 308 GTB - + 15:08
3. #16 Joan Ignasi Canela (ESP)/Juan Ignacio Villalba (ESP) - Ford Fiesta 1600 - + 36:37
4. #21 Pablo de Sousa (ESP)/Guillermo Barreras (ESP) - Seat 124/2000 - + 38:08
5. #34 Carles Santacreu (ESP)/Antonio Santacreu (ESP) - Opel Ascona SR 2.0 - + 40:38
6. #32 Alfonso Marcos (ESP)/Antonio Altarriba (ESP) - Seat 124/1800 - + 49:17
7. #55 Fede Prats (ESP)/Jaume Vizern (ESP) - Talbot Rally - + 1H04:48
8. #29 Juan Carlos Herrero (ESP)/Manuel Mínguez (ESP) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - + 1H16:35
9. #49 A. Cartoixa (ESP)/A. Prats (ESP) - Seat 124/1800 - + 1H24:30
10. #25 «Gavi» (ESP)/Josep Ventura (ESP) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 1H29:23
RACE - 1st, 3rd to 10th
1. #4 Adartico Vudafieri (ITA)/Arnaldo Bernacchini (ITA) - Fiat 131 Abarth - 4H46:39
2. #6 Jorge de Bagration (ESP)/Victor Sabater (ESP) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 0:14
3. #10 Andrea Zanussi (ITA)/Luigi Pirollo (ITA) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 3:34
4. #7 Eduardo Balcázar (ESP)/Juan Martín (ESP) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 4:14
5. #??? Enrique Villar (ESP)/Federico Garret (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - +18:40
6. #??? Joan Ignasi Canela (ESP)/Juan Ignacio Villalba (ESP) - Ford Fiesta 1600 - +27:18
7. #??? Genito Ortíz (ESP)/Maria Jesús Cabal (ESP) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - +35:34
8. #??? Paco Balcazar (ESP)/Joan Molina (ESP) - Talbot Horizon - +37:29
9. #??? Pipo Couret (ESP)/Silvia Meléndez (ESP) - Seat 124/1800 - +38:30
10. #??? Alfonso Marcos (ESP)/Fernando Bofill (ESP) - Seat 124/1800 - +39:26
Costa Smeralda - 6th to 10th
6. #??? Attilio Bettega (ITA)/Maurizio Perissinot (ITA) - Fiat Ritmo 75 Abarth -
7. #??? Gianfranco Ricci (ITA)/Isabella Bignardi (ITA) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus -
8. #??? Peter Geitel (FIN)/Juha Piironen (FIN) - Datsun Violet -
9. #??? Hannu Valtahaarju (FIN)/Matti Lammi (FIN) - Ford Escort RS -
10. #??? Franco Cunico (ITA)/Max Sghedoni (ITA) - Ford Fiesta 1600 -
Hunsruck - top 10
1. #??? Jochi Kleint (DEU)/Günter Wanger (DEU) - Opel Ascona 400 - 6H29:29
2. #??? Per Eklund (SWE)/Ragnar Spjuth (SWE) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - + 10:27
3. #??? Manfred Hero (DEU)/Klaus Hopfe (DEU) - Porsche 911 SC - + 17:02
4. #??? Jean-Luc Thérier (FRA)/Michel Vial (FRA) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - + 18:17
5. #??? Attila Ferjáncz (HUN)/János Tandari (HUN) - Renault 5 Turbo - + 22:37
6. #??? Alfons Stock (DEU)/Paul Schmuck (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - + 22:57
7. #??? Heinz-Walter Schewe (DEU)/Erhard Ricken (DEU) - Datsun 160 J - + 25:24
8. #??? Erwin Weber (DEU)/Wilfried Öchsner (DEU) - Opel Ascona - + 27:52
9. #??? Holger Bohne (DEU)/Peter Diekmann (DEU) - Mercedes 500 SL -
10. #??? Jörn Nikola (DEU)/Heinz Liske (DEU) - Ford Escort RS -
Halkidikis - 2nd to 8th
2. #??? Iórgos Moschous (GRC)/Alexis Konstantakatos (GRC) - Datsun Violet GT - 3H37:39
3. #??? Blazej Krupa (POL)/Piotr Mystkowski (POL) - Renault 5 Alpine - 3H55:22
4. #??? Andreas Papatriantafillou (GRC)/Anastasios Hassapis (GRC) - Toyota Corolla - 4H04:03
5. #??? Manolis Halivelakis (GRC)/Thanos Papageorgiou (GRC) - Ford Escort RS - 4H05:28
6. #??? Johnny Pesmazoglou (GRC)/Andreas Arkentis (GRC) - Opel Ascona 400 - 4H08:27
7. #??? Ioánnis Konstantakatos (GRC)/??? Foussaras (GRC) - Ford Escort RS - 4H14:33
8. #??? Mihalis? Lykakis (GRC)/Níkos Panou (GRC) - Ford Escort RS - 4H19:47
Antibes - 2nd to 10th
2. #??? Bruno Saby (FRA)/Françoise Sappey (FRA) - Renault 5 Turbo - 7H42:02
3. #??? Jean-Louis Clarr (FRA)/Joseph Sévelinge (FRA) - Opel Ascona 400 - 7H52:11
4. #??? Jean-Pierre Ballet (FRA)/Alain Flores (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 2,7L - 7H58:25
5. #??? Attila Ferjáncz (HUN)/János Tandari (HUN) - Renault 5 Turbo - 8H07:01
6. #??? Francis Bondil (FRA)/Alain Brunel (FRA) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - 8H10:17
7. #??? Alain Oreille (FRA)/Sylvie Oreille (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 8H11:26
8. #??? Guy Chasseuil (FRA)/Christian Baron (FRA) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - 8H15:54
9. #??? Tycho van Dijk (NLD)/B. Gaudin (FRA) - Porsche 911-S - 8H23:08
10. #??? Christophe Spiliotis (MCO)/Isabelle Spiliotis (MCO) - Fiat 124 Spider - 8H29:30
1982
Costa Smeralda - 6th to 10th
6. #19 Tony Carello (ITA)/Renato Meiohas (ITA) - Fiat 131 Abarth -
7. #43 Gabriele Noberasco (ITA)/Andrea Ulivi (ITA) - Fiat 131 Abarth -
8. #12 John Buffum (USA)/Neil Wilson (GBR) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus -
9. #42 «Edi-C» (ITA)/??? Bertone (ITA) - Fiat 131 Abarth -
10. #26 Carlo Capone (ITA)/Luigi Pirollo (ITA) - Fiat Ritmo Abarth -
Criterium Alpin - 2nd to 5th
2. #??? Bruno Saby (FRA)/Françoise Sappey (FRA) - Renault 5 Turbo -
3. #??? Jean Ragnotti (FRA)/Jean-Marc Andrié (FRA) - Renault 5 Turbo -
4. #??? Jean-Pierre Ballet (FRA)/«Tilber» (MCO) - Porsche 911 SC -
5. #??? Alain Viano (FRA)/Dominique le Corre (FRA) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus -
Hunsruck - 1st to 3rd, 5th to 10th
1. #??? Harald Demuth (DEU)/Arwed Fischer (DEU) - Audi Quattro -
2. #??? Jochi Kleint (DEU)/Günter Wanger (DEU) - Opel Ascona 400 - + 8:58
3. #??? Russell Brookes (GBR)/Ronan Morgan (IRL) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS - + 16:24
4. #??? Sepp Haider (AUT)/Peter Diekmann (DEU) - Mercedes 500 SLC - + 18:40
5. #??? Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Victor Sabater (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - + 21:41
6. #??? Horst Rausch (DEU)/Klaus Hopfe (DEU) - Opel Ascona 400 -
7. #??? Simon Everett (GBR)/Willy Lux (BEL) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS -
8. #??? Erwin Weber (DEU)/Matthias Berg (DEU) - Opel Ascona i2000 -
9. #??? Udo Schwarz (DEU)/Karl-Ernst Ufer (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
10. #??? John Buffum (USA)/Neil Wilson (GBR) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus -
Halkidikis - 2nd to 5th
2. #??? «Tony» (ITA)/«Rudy» (ITA) - Conrero / Opel Ascona 400 -
3. #??? Iórgos Moschous (GRC)/Kóstas Fertakis (GRC) - Datsun Violet -
4. #??? «Leonidas» (GRC)/Tonia Pavli (GRC) - Renault 5 Turbo -
5. #??? Guy Colsoul (BEL)/Alain Lopes (BEL) - Opel Ascona 400 -
Tour de France - 8th, 10th
8. #40 René Sarrazin (FRA)/Albert Neyron (FRA) - Renault 5 Turbo -
9. #49 François Rousseau (FRA)/Robert Wrege (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
10. #25 Bernard Orengo (FRA)/Max Spinelli (FRA) - Porsche 911 -
Antibes - 2nd to 8th
2. #??? Terry Kaby (GBR)/Rob Arthur (GBR) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS -
3. #??? Jacques Alméras (FRA)/«Tilber» (MCO) - Eminence-Alméras / Porsche 911 SC -
4. #??? Jean-Luc Thérier (FRA)/Michel Vial (FRA) - Renault 5 Turbo -
5. #??? François Chatriot (FRA)/Annick Peuvergne (FRA) - Renault 5 Turbo -
6. #??? Bernard Orengo (FRA)/Max Spinelli (FRA) - Porsche 911 -
7. #??? Jean-Claude Sola (FRA)/Chantalle Garel (FRA) - Renault 5 Alpine -
8. #??? Alain Oreille (FRA)/Sylvie Oreille (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

Answer me when you have time.

Thanks in advance

Best Regards
Américo.

RobertS

17th October 2011, 10:44

Can you help me with complete start-list from '76 Acropolis?

juwra.com**|**Rallies - Acropolis 1976 entry list (http://www.juwra.com/acropolis_1976_entries.html)

I am scanning my old slides from this rallye, but I do not have the original old documents.
Please help, if you can...

I have many shots with high start no., without any idea 'who is who?'

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4220/115ihs.jpg

focus206

17th October 2011, 11:34

Thank you very much Américo :)

Could you please post the results from 2nd to 5th of RACE 1980? Because I had wrong results, I had Enrique Villar in 5th instead of in 6th...

Thanks in advance

januszsz

17th October 2011, 12:02

sednem

17th October 2011, 21:05

Thank you very much Américo :)

Could you please post the results from 2nd to 5th of RACE 1980? Because I had wrong results, I had Enrique Villar in 5th instead of in 6th...

Thanks in advance

Hi Focus,

This one is tricky... There where 2 "vilar" with Porsche in 5th and 6th...

1. #??? Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Jorge Sabater (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - 4H12:46
2. #??? Mauro Pregliasco (ITA)/Vittorio Reisoli (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV turbo - + 4:06
3. #??? Jorge de Bagration (ESP)/Nuria Llopis (ESP) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 4:42
4. #??? Salvador Servià (ESP)/Alex Brustenga (ESP) - Ford Fiesta - + 14:01
5. #??? Ricardo Villar (ESP)/Juan-Antonio Díaz (ESP) - Porsche 911 - + 19:47
6. #??? Enrique Villar (ESP)/Federico Garret (ESP) - Porsche 911 - + 21:17

Best Regards.
Américo

focus206

17th October 2011, 21:10

Hi Focus,

This one is tricky... There where 2 "vilar" with Porsche in 5th and 6th...

1. #??? Antonio Zanini (ESP)/Jorge Sabater (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - 4H12:46
2. #??? Mauro Pregliasco (ITA)/Vittorio Reisoli (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV turbo - + 4:06
3. #??? Jorge de Bagration (ESP)/Nuria Llopis (ESP) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 4:42
4. #??? Salvador Servià (ESP)/Alex Brustenga (ESP) - Ford Fiesta - + 14:01
5. #??? Ricardo Villar (ESP)/Juan-Antonio Díaz (ESP) - Porsche 911 - + 19:47
6. #??? Enrique Villar (ESP)/Federico Garret (ESP) - Porsche 911 - + 21:17

Best Regards.
Américo

Thank you Américo :)

RobertS

18th October 2011, 19:11

Hi Robert,
No 113 - P. Bohoridis / D. Tsitsikis -GR- Opel Ascona gr.1
No 115 - "Gear" / "El-Nak" -GR- Fiat 131 Mirafiori gr.1

Regards
Janusz
Thank You Janusz!

Please help me with start no's: 20, 22, 23, 24, 35, 36, 88, 93, 121, 124, 132

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/4417/48493393.jpg

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/4669/124cb.jpg

Steve Boyd

18th October 2011, 21:27

1976 :
23/Donegal - 6-7 th
6. #??? George Hill (GBR)/Donald Grieve (GBR) - Vauxhall Magnum Coupé -
7. #??? John McLean (GBR)/Martin Whale (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -

George Hill #14
John McLean #25
from photographs on this web page:
http://www.rallyretro.com/searchresults_photos.asp?PicID=196&Event=Donegal+International+Rally&Year=1976&offset=45

RobertS

19th October 2011, 07:35

...atmosphere was once...

http://www.fotocommunity.de/pc/pc/mypics/1484501/display/26092540

Wim_Impreza

22nd October 2011, 18:44

hello! i have found this thread, very very interesting...i see it's divided into three parts, where is the first?? thank you!

Unfortunately thie first part is not visible anymore. :(

RobertS

22nd October 2011, 19:14

Please help me with some German names from 1971:

Reiner Altenheimer - ...? Gwinner BMW
Hans Beckenbauer - K...? Kriz BMW
...? Hubertus - ...? Holder VW
Herbert Jelinek - ...? Schönewolf Porsche
...? Leinfelder - ...? Meiner VW K70
Georg Petri - ...? Pfeiffer Alfa-Romeo
Rainer Scherer - ...? Wurth Opel-Kadet 1100
...? Sorg - ...? Hermann BMW

1977

N...? Kollin - A...? Schmid D Scuderia München Opel-Kadett GT/E
V...? Wolst - G...? Gottlieb D VBA ADAC Opel-Kadett GT/E
C...? A...? Wolff - F...? Meurer D KWS Autotechnik Ford-Escort RS2000

cvhi

23rd October 2011, 20:06

Hello, I search since long time these entry list (not start list)

MAROC 1971
AUTRICHE 1971
SUEDE 1970, 1972, 1973, 1975, 1976, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1984
ACROPOLE 1970, 1971
QUEBEC 1977, 1978, 1979
BRESIL 1981, 1982
PRESS ON REGARDLESS 1972
ARGENTINE 1980, 1984, 1985, 1994, 1995
AUSTRALIE 1989, 1991
COTE D'IVOIRE 1988

Thank you for your help
best regards Christophe

mlanders@orange.fr

DIMI44

24th October 2011, 19:29

Can you help me with complete start-list from '76 Acropolis?

juwra.com | Rallies - Acropolis 1976 entry list (http://www.juwra.com/acropolis_1976_entries.html)

I am scanning my old slides from this rallye, but I do not have the original old documents.
Please help, if you can...

I have many shots with high start no., without any idea 'who is who?'

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4220/115ihs.jpg

I have an official list of participants.It is a little(!!) used but I think that you can find answers in your questions.Give me your fax number to send it tomorrow morning.

RobertS

25th October 2011, 08:12

DIMI44,

Thank you very much!
I sent a pm.

stanislav197

26th October 2011, 20:20

Americo, help me for result ERC - 1977 :1/Janer - 5,10 th ;5/Sachs Winter - 10 th ;6/Hanki - 10 th ;7/Costa Brava - 6 th ;8/Targa Florio - 9-10 th ;10/Isola d'Elba - 8 th ;11/Firestone - 3 th and 6 th ;13/Alpin - 5-6 th ;16/Lucien Bianchi - 8-9 th ;17/ Hesen - 6 th ;18/South Sweden - 6 th ;19/4 Regioni - 6-8 th ;22/ Antibes - 9 th ;23/ Ypres - 7 th ;24/ Alpi Orientali - 2 th ;28/Taurus - 7-9 th ;30/Sachs Baltic - 10 th ;31/ Halkidiki - 4,6-8,10 th ;32/ Manx - 5 th ;33/ Tour de France - 8-10 th ;34/ Cyprus - 3-4 th ;35/ OASC - 2-10 th ;36/ De la Shataine - 5-10 th ;37/ RACE - 10 th ;40/ Bosfor - 6-10 th ;

Steve Boyd

27th October 2011, 20:16

From 25 Years of the Manx Rally by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton:
1977, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Penti Airikkala/Risto Virtanen (Vauxhall Chevette 2300) 12315 Points
2 Brian Culcheth/Johnstone Syer (Triumph TR7) 12448 Points
3 Andy Dawson/Stuart Pegg (Ford Escort RS1800) 12680 Points
4 Derek Boyd/Roy Kernaghan (Porsche Carrera) 12795 Points
5 Ian Corkill/Janet Welldon (Porsche Carrera) 12950 Points
6 Bernard Unett/Paul White (Chrysler Avenger GT) 13021 Points
7 Pat Ryan/Mike Nicholson (Triumph Dolomite Sprint) 13108 Points
8 Jimmy McRae/Ian Muir (Vauxhall Magnum) 13240 Points
9 Peter Thompson/Frank Main (Ford Escort RS1800) 13273 Points
10 John Taylor/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800) 13335 Points

sednem

9th November 2011, 08:26

Hi stanislav...

Here what I have for you...

Americo, help me for result ERC - 1977
1/Janer - 5,10 th
5. #12 Klaus Rüssling (AUT)/Klaus Krammer (AUT) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -
6. #7 Flory Roothaert (BEL)/Eric Symens (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
7. #18 Walter Öttl (AUT)/Kurt Nestinger (AUT) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
8. #3 Walter Smolej (AUT)/Christian Geistdörfer (DEU) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
9. #29 Gerhard Gottlieb (DEU)/Gunter Schefer (DEU) - BMW 2002 -
10. #47 Walter Osterer (AUT)/Hans Kern (AUT) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

5/Sachs Winter - 10 th
10. #??? Wolfgang Höhing (DEU)/Eschwey (DEU) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

6/Hanki - 10 th
10. #??? Pertti Kärhä (FIN)/Jorma Helenius (FIN) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

7/Costa Brava - 6 th
6. #??? Heinz-Walter Schewe (DEU)/Günther Dederichs (DEU) - Porsche Carrera - 13146

8/Targa Florio - 9-10 th
9. #??? ??? Belli (ITA)/??? Fiaschi (ITA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
10. #??? Raffaele Restivo (ITA)/«Apache» (ITA) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -

10/Isola d'Elba - 8 th
8. #??? Roberto Ricceri (ITA)/???? Gadducci (ITA) - Fiat 124 -

11/Firestone - 3 th and 6 th
3. #11 Juan-Carlos Pradera (ESP)/Pasqual Mata (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 - + 13:31
6. #??? Isidro Oliveras (ESP)/Ramon Brugada (ESP) - Ford Escort RS - + 19:39

13/Alpin - 5-6 th
5. #12 Marc Gallo (FRA)/A. Galliano (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
6. #24 Christian Gardavot (FRA)/P. Bauchant (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -

16/Lucien Bianchi - 8-9 th
8. #??? Claude Barbin (FRA)/B. Lanquemanne (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
9. #??? Francis Leclercq (FRA)/Jean-Marie Vignon (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

17/ Hesen - 6 th
6. #??? Peter-Max Hainbach (DEU)/??? Bartels (DEU) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 16409 pts

18/South Sweden - 6 th
6. #??? Lennart Frenell (SWE)/J Gustavsson (SWE) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

19/4 Regioni - 6-8 th
6. #??? Mario Quaciari (ITA)/??? Lavazza (ITA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 50:31
7. #??? Giampiero Ferrari (ITA)/??? Poletti (ITA) - Fiat 124 Spider - + 53:05
8. #??? Mario Tarditi (ITA)/??? Rossi (ITA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 57:19

22/ Antibes - 9 th
9. #??? Christian Gardavot (FRA)/P. Bauchant (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 2,7L -

23/ Ypres - 7 th
7. #??? Maurice Nusbaumer (FRA)/Annie Gourdain (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 - + 12:24

24/ Alpi Orientali - 2 th (Don't have it in my ERC list)
28/Taurus - 7-9 th
7. #??? Volker Welst (DEU)/Gerhard Gottlieb (DEU) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 6413 pts
8. #??? Petr Cernohorský (CSK)/??? Marsowsky (CSK) - Lada 1600 - 6430 pts
9. #??? Thomas Dartsch (DEU)/??? Gordziel (DEU) - BMW 2002 - 6450 pts

30/Sachs Baltic - 10 th
10. #??? Martin Maas (DEU)/Fred Hartwigsen (DEU) - BMW 2002 -

31/ Halkidiki - 4,6-8,10 th
4. #??? ??? Papadam (GRC)/??? Zouganelis (GRC) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
6. #??? «Pavlos» (GRC)/??? Sonit (GRC) - Renault 5 TS -
7. #??? Andreas Papatriantafillou (GRC)/Michalis Kalogianidis (GRC) - Toyota Celica -
8. #??? Vangelis Gallo (GRC)/Emmanouil Halivelakis (GRC) - Toyota 1200 -
10. #??? ??? Yannoudis (GRC)/??? Kopsahilis (GRC) - Opel Ascona -

32/ Manx - 5 th (Steve...)
33/ Tour de France - 8-10 th
8. #??? Jacky Daumet (FRA)/«Zaf» (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
9. #??? Pierre Bos (FRA)/Daniel Fallot (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 2,7L -
10. #??? Jean-Claude Rey (FRA)/L. Strotz (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 3L -

34/ Cyprus - 3-4 th
3. #??? Christos Kirmitsis (CYP)/M. Koutsoftides (CYP) - Ford Escort RS -
4. #??? Victor Zachariades (CYP)/??? Eleftheriou (CYP) - Fiat 131 Abarth -

35/ OASC - 2-10 th (Missing too...)
36/ De la Châtaigne - 5-10 th
5. #??? François Vivier (FRA)/Jean Bourgoin (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
6. #??? Gérard Swaton (FRA)/Bernard Cordesse (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -
7. #??? Jean-Louis Montriaud (FRA)/P. Guinet (FRA) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
8. #??? Joël Mouetron (FRA)/J-L Gacon (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera-RS -
9. #??? ??? Bouland (FRA)/??? Reboul (FRA) - Simca Rallye 2 -
10. #??? Jean-Claude Vaucard (FRA)/Hubert Arnoult (FRA) - Simca Rallye 2 -

37/ RACE - 10 th
10. #46 Arturo de Onís (ESP)/Pablo Ivars (ESP) - Simca 1200 Ti - 6H40:00

40/ Bosfor - 6-10 th (Missing too...)

Best regards
Américo.

stanislav197

9th November 2011, 15:12

Steve Boyd

9th November 2011, 19:48

Americo,last year many helped me.Thank you. Help me for result ERC - 1978 :1/Janer - 4-6 and 9 th ;3/Boucles de SPA - 8-9 th ;4/Galway - 5 and 7 th ;8/Targa Florio - 6-7 th ;11/ARBO - 5-6 th ;13/Lucien Bianchi - 8-10 th ;14/Isola d'Elba - 7 th ;15/Tulpen - 7 and 10 th ;16/Alpin - 7 and 9 th ;18/Lorainne - 8-9 th ;19/4 Regioni - 9 th ;21/Hesen - 9 th ;22/Haspengow -
5-6 and 10 th ;26/Donegal - 4,8,10 th ;27/Ypres - 7 th ;31/Hunsruk - 10 th ;33/Taurus - 2 and 7 th ;35/Halkidikis - 4,7,9-10 th ;36/Manx - 8 th ;37/Tour de France - 7-10 th ;38/Cyprus - 6-10 th ;40/OASC - 8-10 th ;41/De la Châtaigne - 3 and 5-9 th ;42/RACE - 10 th ;43/Algarve - 7 th ;44/Bosfor - 4 and 6 th .
Again from 25 Years of the Manx Rally by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton:
1978, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Tony Pond/Fred Gallagher (Triumph TR7 V8) 12554 Points
2 John Taylor/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800) 12673 Points
3 Brian Nelson/Terry Harryman (Porsche Carrera) 12705 Points
4 Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS1800) 12742 Points
5 Maurizio Verini/Arnaldo Bernachini (Fiat 131 Abarth) 13047 Points
6 Ernest Kidney/Peter Scott (Ford Escort RS1800) 13450 Points
7 Brian Culcheth/Johnstone Syer (Opel Kadett GT/E) 13465 Points
8 Ian Corkill/Eunice Dale (Ford Escort RS1800) 13844 Points
9 John Price/Mike Sones (Porsche Carrera) 14106 Points
10 Robin Farrington/Brian Harrison (Ford Escort RS1800) 14191 Points

stanislav197

13th November 2011, 08:32

Steve Boyd,help me for result - Rally Manx :1988 year - 10 place ;1986 year - 10 place ;1982 year - 6,9,10 place ;1975 year - 2-10 place .Thanks.

sednem

14th November 2011, 21:23

Something for you stan...

Americo,last year many helped me.Thank you. Help me for result ERC - 1978 :
1/Janer - 4-6 and 9 th
4. #??? Andreas Stigler (AUT)/Stigler (AUT) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - 13000 pts
5. #??? Alois Albrecht (AUT)/Helmut Rochelt (AUT) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 13261 pts
6. #??? Jürgen Bertl (DEU)/Arno Hesse (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - 13360 pts
9. #??? Willi Geringer (AUT)/??? Winter (AUT) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 13671 pts

3/Boucles de SPA - 8-9 th
8. #??? J. Hardy (BEL)/René Dejalle (BEL) - Ford Escort RS - 4H34:53
9. #??? Danny Delettre (BEL)/Claudy Content (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 4H35:11

4/Galway - 5 and 7 th
5. #??? Billy Coleman (IRL)/Frank O'Donoghue (IRL) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 18:01
7. #??? Hugh O'Brien (IRL)/??? McCullah (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1800 - + 24:41

8/Targa Florio - 6-7 th
6. #??? Anna Cambiaghi (ITA)/Meli (ITA) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 21:35
7. #??? Sandro Dean (ITA)/M. Dean (ITA) - Ford Escort RS - + 23:33

11/ARBO - 5-6 th
5. #??? Walter Öttl (AUT)/Ossi Schurek (AUT) - Porsche Carrera - 11971 pts
6. #??? Wilfried Wiedner (AUT)/Michel Buzzi (CHE) - Fiat 124 Spider - 12036 pts

13/Lucien Bianchi - 8-10 th
8. #??? Armand Lemay (FRA)/P. Berkani (FRA) - Porsche 911 Carrera - + 28:18
9. #??? José Stepan (BEL)/Philippe Chantraine (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 31:08
10. #??? Robert Droogmans (BEL)/André Malais (BEL) - Ford Escort RS2000 - + 31:18

14/Isola d'Elba - 7 th
7. #??? Livio Lorenzelli (ITA)/Carlo Tuccini (ITA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 28:01

15/Tulpen - 7 and 10 th
7. #14 Henk Vossen (NLD)/Stef Thomas (NLD) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 6736 pts
10. #15 Jan van Heugten (NLD)/D.T. Stapel (NLD) - BMW 2002 Tii - 6898 pts

16/Alpin - 7 and 9 th
7. #??? Robert Lassauge (FRA)/Mme Lassauge (FRA) - Simca Rallye 3 - + 32:14
9. #??? Christian Dorche (FRA)/Robert Nal (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 44:46

18/Lorainne - 8-9 th
8. #83 Christian Anotin (FRA)/??? Rochon (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 2,7L -
9. #??? Bernard Bottini (FRA)/??? Mauroy (FRA) - Simca Rallye 3 -

19/4 Regioni - 9 th
9. #??? A. Ferrettino (ITA)/C. Latino (ITA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 32:17

21/Hesen - 9 th
9. #??? Gisbert Fröhlich (DEU)/Rainer Wüllner (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

22/Haspengow - 5-6 and 10 th
5. #??? Jean-Marie Jacquemin (BEL)/J. Leveaux (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 14:40
6. #??? J. Hardy (BEL)/René Dejalle (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
10. #??? M. Fafra (BEL)/J.M. Cox (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

26/Donegal - 4,8,10 th
4. #19 Derek McMahon (IRL)/Starritt Graham (IRL) - Chrysler Sunbeam - + 23:19
8. #??? Sean Campbell (IRL)/David Sandford (IRL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
10. #??? Noel Harvey (GBR)/Rodger Jenkins (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1800 -

27/Ypres - 7 th
7. #17 Hermès Delbar (BEL)/Jacky Winkin (BEL) - Porsche 911 Carrera - + 10:41

31/Hunsruk - 10 th
10. #??? Aloyse Kridel (LUX)/Rainer Wehner (DEU) - Ford Escort RS -

33/Taurus - 2 and 7 th
2. #??? György Antalffy (HUN)/Tamás Berki (HUN) - Renault 12 Gordini - 19422 pts
7. #??? József Mahler (HUN)/László Haui (HUN) - Lada 1200 -

35/Halkidikis - 4,7,9-10 th
4. #??? Stojan Kolev (BGR)/Svetan Mitkov (BGR) - Porsche 911 Carrera SC -
7. #??? Kostas Tanoussis (GRC)/Takis Nakis (GRC) - Opel Ascona -
9. #??? ??? Kouroglou (GRC)/Dimitris Manolopoulos (GRC) - BMW 2002 -
10. #??? «Benny» (GRC)/Panagiotis Miliaresis (GRC) - Mazda 323 -

36/Manx - 8 th (Thanks Steve...)
37/Tour de France - 7-10 th
7. #??? Jan-Hug Hazard (FRA)/Marie-Laure Hazard (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 1H40:15
8. #??? Jean-Pierre Lacorre (FRA)/Guy Troncal (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
9. #??? ??? Bayon (FRA)/Mme Bayon (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
10. #??? ??? Charas (FRA)/??? Thomas (FRA) - Alpine-Renault A110 -

38/Cyprus - 6-10 th
6. #??? Panayiotis Theophanides (CYP)/??? Agapiou (CYP) - Citroen GS -
7. #??? ??? Rossides (CYP)/??? Koukoulides (CYP) - Volkswagen 1302-S -
8. #??? ??? Phasarias (CYP)/??? Gray (CYP) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
9. #??? Costas Theocharides (CYP)/Petros Demetriades (CYP) - Subaru 1600 -
10. #??? ??? Hadjipoures (CYP)/??? Mentonis (CYP) - Lada 1200 -

40/OASC - 8-10 th
8. #??? Andreas Stigler (AUT)/Stigler (AUT) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
9. #??? Siegfried Decker (AUT)/Ossi Schurek (AUT) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
10. #??? K. Hölzhammer (AUT)/??? Hulzner (AUT) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

41/De la Châtaigne - 3 and 5-9 th
3. #??? Alain Viano (FRA)/Daniel Maillan (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
5. #??? Romaric Lescure (FRA)/??? Dussauge (FRA) - Porsche Carrera 2,7L -
6. #??? Jean-Louis Montriaud (FRA)/P. Guinet (FRA) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
7. #??? Bernard Dubessay (FRA)/??? Villate (FRA) - Porsche 911 -
8. #??? Bernard Lagorsse (FRA)/Guy Chevarin (FRA) - Porsche 911 -
9. #??? William Oddoux (FRA)/I. Bellin (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -

42/RACE - 10 th
10. #??? «Gavi» (ESP)/Francisco Martínez (ESP) - Seat 124D Especial 1800 -

43/Algarve - 7 th
7. #??? Orlando Reis (PRT)/Élio Bolas (PRT) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

44/Bosfor - 4 and 6 th .
4. #??? Hassan Sahin (TUR)/Cihat Gürkan (TUR) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
6. #??? Behic Yurdacalisan (TUR)/??? Alankaya (TUR) - Murat 131 -

Best Regards
Américo.

stanislav197

15th November 2011, 08:28

Americo,I have difference with your results-1978.My result:16/Alpin - 7 - 10 th
7. #??? Robert Lassauge (FRA)/Mme Lassauge (FRA) - Simca Rallye 3
8. (not 9.) #??? Christian Dorche (FRA)/Robert Nal (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E //// 9. R.(help my for name) Koven (FRA)/''Poosi''-(help my for real name) (FRA) - Ford Escort RS2000 //// 10. Michelle Laborie (FRA) / Francois Dufos (FRA) - Simca Rallye 3 and 21/Hesen - 9 th
9. #??? Gisbert ( my Karl-Heinz ) Fröhlich (DEU)/Rainer Wüllner (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 .

D-Type

15th November 2011, 14:02

On another forum someone is asking:
"Does anybody have an entry list for the 1964 Circuit of Ireland?"
and (curiously)
"Does anybody know who drove the Aston Martin DB4 course car?"

If you can help please PM me - or post the info here.

Steve Boyd

15th November 2011, 17:47

Steve Boyd,help me for result - Rally Manx :1988 year - 10 place ;1986 year - 10 place ;1982 year - 6,9,10 place ;1975 year - 2-10 place .Thanks.
From my usual source, "25 Years of the Manx Rally" by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton

1975, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS1800) 1046 points
2. Dessie McCartney/Terry Harryman (Porsche Carrera RS) 1208 points
3. Billy Coleman/Dan O'Sullivan (Escort RS1800) 1492 points
4. Dennis Easthope/Bernie Magee (Porsche Carrera) 1545 points
5. Cahal Curley/Austin Frazer (Porsche Carrera RSR) 1585 points
6. John Price/Mike Sones (Porsche Carrera RS) 1825 points
7. John Dodsworth/Stuart Comish (Porsche Carrera RS) 1876 points
8. Brian Evans/John Davenport (Porsche Carrera) 1952 points
9. George Hill/Phil Short (Vauxhall Magnum) 2228 points
10. Robin Eyre-Maunsell/Neil wilson (Hillman Avenger GT) 2552 points

1982 (September 16-18), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Jimmy McRae/Ian Grindrod (Opel Ascona 400) 5h 00m 25s
2. Russell Brookes/Mike Broad (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 5h 02m 54s
3. Bertie Fisher/Austin Frazer (Ford Escort RS1800) 5h 12m 23s
4. Malcolm Patrick/Phil Short (Opel Ascona 400) 5h 13m 46s
5. Ian Tilke/Tony McMahon (Ford Escort RS) 5h 25m 30s
6. John Price/D. Davies (Renault 5 Turbo) 5h 33m 03s7. Robin Farrington/Martin Wasley (Ford Escort RS) 5h 35m 01s
8. Theo Bengry/James Watkins (Opel Ascona 400) 5h 38m 04s
9. Martin Freestone/John Gittins (Ford Escort) 5h 39m 07s
10. Mike Hutchinson/Nigel Harris (Ford Escort) 5h 39m 16s

1986 (September 11-13), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1. Tony Pond/Rob Arthur (MG Metro 6R4) 3h 18m 01s
2. David Llewellin/Phil Short (MG Metro 6R4) 3h 20m 31s
3. Mark Lovell/Roger Freeman (Ford RS200) 3h 21m 28s
4. Mikael Sundstrom/Voitto Silander (Peugeot 205T16) 3h 24m 15s
5. Russell Brookes/Mike Broad (Opel Manta 400) 3h 24m 43s
6. Austin McHale/Christy Farrell (Opel Manta 400) 3h 30m 13s
7. Cyril Bolton/Derek Ervine (MG Metro 6R4) 3h 31m 07s
8. Simon Davison/Bobby Willis (Nissan 240RS) 3h 41m 50s
9. John Price/Derrick Davies (Renault 5 Turbo) 3h 46m 56s
10. Jeremy Barnes/Andrew Lees (Lotus Sunbeam) 3h 50m 51s

Unfortunately I can't help with 1988. The last year in the book is 1987, the 25th running of the rally. I haven't got 1989 or 1990 either but I have the official results for 1991 to 2010 if anyone needs anything from those years.