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cvhi
3rd November 2010, 16:39
Hello,

I search since a long time entry list about german Rally. If someone help me

HUN HUNSRUCK RALLY : 1981 (31 Juil/1 Aout),1985(11/14 Juillet), 1986(17/20 Juillet), 1992(30 Juil/2 Aout),

DEU DEUTSCHLAND 1987 and 1995



Thank you very much for your help



[email:uezcwwjn]mlanders@orange.fr[/email:uezcwwjn]







Than

cvhi
3rd November 2010, 16:41
Hello,

I search since a long time entry list about german Rally. If someone can help me.

Hunsruck Rally 1981, 1985, 1986 and 1992 (with national)

Deutschland 1987 and 1995

Sachs Winter 1979

Thank you very much for your help

mlanders@orange.fr

Giorgio
4th November 2010, 14:50
I search the date:

?? / ?? / 1987 - 22° Plains Rally
?? / ?? / 1987 - 31° Cambrian Rally
?? / ?? / 1987 - 8° Lurgan Park Rally

Thank you
Giorgio

urabus-denoS2000
4th November 2010, 19:56
It doesn't have to be an WRC just because it looks like one , esthetical conversions from grA to WRC looks were very often in 1997-2000

Martin Liddle
4th November 2010, 22:10
11 / April / 1987 - 22° Plains Rally
17 /October / 1987 - 31° Cambrian Rally

FAL
4th November 2010, 23:29
It doesn't have to be an WRC just because it looks like one , esthetical conversions from grA to WRC looks were very often in 1997-2000

Depends whether the event pictured was an International requiring an homologated car.

kabouter
8th November 2010, 15:02
@kabouter:


Thanks Reinhard, I'll include them the next time I work on the database (as soon as I've got the time).

ReWind
8th November 2010, 18:54
Tjeerd (and others to whom it may concern), please take notice of the fact that 11 November 1950 is NOT German rally driver Manfred Hero’s true birth date.
Obviously this false info stems from this website (http://www.rallye-info.com/driverprofile.asp?driver=700) which has the annoying habit of giving “11-Nov-50” to EACH driver it doesn’t know the real birth date of.
From local newspaper www.la-team-saar.de/downloads/prlat20090123szseitec910titel.pdf+%22manfred+hero% 22+schmelz+geb.&hl=de&gl=de&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESgFeoK-yQXwKQ8pqFsurfC2YSKNH8A2Q-YxoxIrwr-E5RobgYLqbuWvLPjeh-_hOYKZ6pqGzQAiKOrH1ww7fIYZAuuhk33ifX0B7KZTWT8ynpzO k0vE809jdLf1WIxGOgbWigYe&sig=AHIEtbTvgik4GrWNs8RuKPcvKO_uQkG-Iw]Saarbrücker (http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:f0nq1MV3GisJ:[url) Zeitung[/url] we learn that Manfred Hero turned 60 on 23 January 2009.
So in fact he was born on 23 January 1949.

BAT555
8th November 2010, 21:00
Hello,
I have request, I look for start list of 7 Rally internazionale della Lana 1984 from No. 2 to No. 9. Can you help me?
many thanks
Jan

cvhi
9th November 2010, 16:00
Hello,

I search since a long time some entry list (Not start list), its possible to help me

Costa Smeralda 1978 and 1989
Targa Florio 1978 and 1979
San Marino 1989 and 1997
Piancavallo 1998
24 Heures d'Yprès 1984 and 1995

thank you for your help
Regards

mlanders@orange.fr

cvhi
13th November 2010, 11:29
For Bat 555,

I Dont have a full entry list of Piancavallo 1984, But I know that

N°9 Signori Daniele-Gargiulo Massimo Citroën Visa chrono B2

sednem
26th November 2010, 14:51
Hi
Can somebody confirm the 1978 ERC calendar and fill some missing coef?

1. (Coef: 1) 13/01 a 15/01 : 9º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 4) 03/02 a 05/02 : 13º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
3. (Coef: 1) 03/02 a 05/02 : 21º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 2) 10/02 a 12/02 : Galway Rally (IRL)
5. (Coef: 3) 17/02 a 19/02 : 26º Rally Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef: 2) 17/02 a 19/02 : Hankiralli (FIN)
7. (Coef: 2) 24/02 a 26/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
8. (Coef: 1) 18/03 a 19/03 : ANULADA 9º Critérium St. Amand-les-Eaux (FRA)
9. (Coef: 2) 24/03 a 26/03 : 7º Rally di Sicilia/Targa Fiorio (ITA)
10. (Coef: 3) 24/03 a 28/03 : Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
11. (Coef: 1) 30/03 a 31/03 : 12º YU Rally (YUG)
12. (Coef: 2) 30/03 a 31/03 : ANULADA Rallye de Lugano (CHE)
13. (Coef: 1) 07/04 a 09/04 : ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
14. (Coef: 1) 15/04 a 16/04 : 35º ADAC Saarland Rally (DEU)
15. (Coef: 2) 28/04 a 30/04 : Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
16. (Coef: 2) 04/05 a 06/05 : 11° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
17. (Coef: 2) 05/05 a 07/05 : 27º Rally das Tulipas (NLD)
18. (Coef: 3) 07/05 a 08/05 : 21º Critérium Alpin (FRA)
19. (Coef: 2) 11/05 a 14/05 : 14º Welsh Rally (XWA)
20. (Coef: 1) 19/05 a 21/05 : 17º Rallye de Lorraine (FRA)
21. (Coef: 3) 19/05 a 21/05 : 8º Rally Quattro Regioni (ITA)
22. (Coef: 1) 26/05 a 28/05 : 3º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE)
23. (Coef: 2) 26/05 a 27/05 : 27º ADAC Rally Hessen-Rally Deutschland (DEU)
24. (Coef: 4) 03/06 a 07/06 : RAC MSA Rally of Scotland (GBR)
25. (Coef: 1) 05/06 a 07/06 : 7º Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
26. (Coef: 3) 11/06 a 13/06 : 9º Rallye das Areias Douradas (BGR)
27. (Coef: 3) 16/06 a 18/06 : 13° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
28. (Coef: 1) 16/06 a 18/06 : 7º Castrol Donegal International Rally (IRL)
29. (Coef: 3) 23/06 a 25/06 : 14º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
30. (Coef: 1) 01/07 a 02/07 : 5º Skoda Rally (CSK)
31. (Coef: 2) 01/07 a 03/07 : 14º Rally del Friuli-Alpi Orientali (ITA)
32. (Coef: 4) 06/07 a 09/07 : 38° Rali da Polónia (POL)
33. (Coef:??) 21/07 a 23/07 : Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
34. (Coef:??) 28/07 a 30/07 : 13º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
35. (Coef:??) 11/08 a 13/08 : 12º Taurus Rally (HUN)
36. (Coef:??) 01/09 a 03/09 : ANULADA 30º Rally San Martino di Castrozza (ITA)
37. (Coef:??) 07/09 a 09/09 : 15º Sachs Rally Baltic (DEU)
38. (Coef:??) 09/09 a 11/09 : 3° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
39. (Coef: 2) 15/09 a 16/09 : 16º Rally Internacional Ilha de Man (GBR)
40. (Coef: 4) 16/09 a 21/09 : 37º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
41. (Coef:??) 22/09 a 24/09 : ANULADA 12º Rallye Firestone (ESP)
42. (Coef:??) 29/09 a 01/10 : 6º Rally Internacional de Chipre (CYP)
43. (Coef:??) 06/10 a 08/10 : 16º Rally Warswa - Polski Fiat (POL)
44. (Coef:??) 13/10 a 15/10 : 21º ÖASC Rallye (AUT)
45. (Coef: 1) 14/10 a 15/10 : Criterium de la Chataigne (FRA)
46. (Coef: 4) 20/10 a 22/10 : 25º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España (ESP)
47. (Coef:??) 04/11 a 05/11 : 8ª Volta ao Algarve (PRT)
48. (Coef:??) 25/11 a 26/11 : 7° Rally Günaydin (TUR)

I'm also looking for top 10 on OASC, Chataigne, Algarve and Gunaydin.
Thanks.
Américo

Nenad Nikolic
27th November 2010, 07:32
Hello Americo,

OASC coeff.2
1. Carello/Perissinot Stratos
2. Fusaro/Perissutti Fiat Abarth 131
3. Haider/Patterman Kadett GT/E
4. Colsul/Lopes Kadett GT/E
5. Fisher/Gottlieb Datsun Sunny
6. Essig/Oberortner Kadett GT/E
7. Osterer/Zwikl Ecsort RS
8. Stigler/Stigler Golf
9. Decker/Schurek Golf
10. Holzhammer/Hulzner Kadet GT/E

Not Gunaydin, this year Bosphorus (TR) coeff.1 only 6 finishers
1. Staepelaere/Franssen Escort RS
2. Kolev/ ? Porsche 911
3. Bacioglu/Ceker Kadett GT/E
4. Sahin/Gurkan Escort RS 2000
5. Tokyay/Bukey BMW 2002 ti
6. Yurdacalisan/Alankaya Murat 131

Best regards!

januszsz
27th November 2010, 11:23
Not Gunaydin, this year Bosphorus (TR) coeff.1 only 6 finishers
1. Staepelaere/Franssen Escort RS
2. Kolev/ ? Porsche 911
3. Bacioglu/Ceker Kadett GT/E
4. Sahin/Gurkan Escort RS 2000
5. Tokyay/Bukey BMW 2002 ti
6. Yurdacalisan/Alankaya Murat 131

Best regards!

In second place I have co-driver: Tzvetan Stoyanov
Regards
Janusz

januszsz
27th November 2010, 11:31
Chataigne 1978:

1 Darniche F Giroux F Lancia Stratos HF
2 Beguin F Lenne F Porsche 911
3 Viano F Maillan F Opel Kadett GT/E
4 Meny F Lienere F Alpine-Renault A310 V6
5 Lescure F Dussauge F Porsche 911SC
6 Montriaud F Guinet F Ford Escort RS2000
7 Dubessay F Villate F Porsche 911
8 Lagorsse F Chevarin F Porsche 911
9 Oddoux F Belin F Opel Kadett GT/E
10 Kridel L Dunkel L Ford Escort RS2000

Algarve 1978:
1 Torres P de Almeida P Ford Escort RS2000
2 Peres P Peres P Ford Escort RS2000
3 "Mequepe" P Vilar P Opel Kadett GT/E
4 Fontainhas P Seromenho P Ford Escort RS
5 Amaral P Calafate P Ford Escort RS
6 Soares P Bruno P Toyota Corolla
7 Reis P Bolas P Ford Escort RS
8 Borges P Bevilacqua P Opel Ascona
9 Martin F Laporte F Ford Escort RS2000
10 "Jomaro" P Sanfins P Datsun 1600SSS

Regards
Janusz

Matthewrally87
28th November 2010, 10:09
Hi boys!!!!! Can you help me with this results, please?

O.A.S.C. Rally 1977:
2° - 3° - 4° - 5°

Criterium de la Chataigne 1977:
5° Borgoin-??? (Opel Kadett GT/E)

Bosphorus Rally 1977:
2° Sevelinge-??? (Opel Kadett GT/E)
3° Murat-??? (Murat 131)
4° Ionescu-??? (Renault 12 Gordini)
5° ???-??? (??? ??? ???)

Thanks so much!!!!!

januszsz
29th November 2010, 08:22
Hi boys!!!!! Can you help me with this results, please?

O.A.S.C. Rally 1977:
2° - 3° - 4° - 5°

Criterium de la Chataigne 1977:
5° Borgoin-VIVIER (Opel Kadett GT/E)

Bosphorus Rally 1977:
2° Sevelinge-??? (Opel Kadett GT/E)
3° AZMI-??? (Murat 131)
4° Ionescu-??? (Renault 12 Gordini)
5° ALI SIPAHI-??? (MURAT 131)

Thanks so much!!!!!
My knowledge on 1977 is far from perfect, sorry.
Regards
Janusz

sednem
2nd December 2010, 19:07
Hello Americo,

OASC coeff.2 (...)


Thanks Nenad!

sednem
2nd December 2010, 19:08
Chataigne 1978:

1 Darniche (...)


Thanks januszsz.

sednem
2nd December 2010, 19:12
Hi,
For 79 I have a calendar... missing a lot of coef...

1. (Coef:??) 12/01 a 14/01 : 10º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef:??) 02/02 a 04/02 : 14º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
3. (Coef:??) 02/02 a 04/02 : 22º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef:??) 09/02 a 11/02 : 9º Galway Rally (IRL)
5. (Coef:??) 16/02 a 18/02 : 27º Rally Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef:??) 23/02 a 25/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
7. (Coef:??) 02/03 a 04/03 : 24º Hankiralli (FIN)
8. (Coef:??) 16/03 a 18/03 : 8º Rally di Sicilia/63º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
9. (Coef:??) 30/03 a 01/04 : 13º YU Rally (YUG)
10. (Coef:??) 04/04 a 07/04 : 2° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
11. (Coef:??) 06/04 a 08/04 : 9º ADAC Saarland Rally (DEU)
12. (Coef:??) 07/04 a 09/04 : 10º Rallye das Areias Douradas (BGR)
13. (Coef:??) 13/04 a 17/04 : 38th Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
14. (Coef:??) 20/04 a 22/04 : 23º ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
15. (Coef:??) 20/04 a 22/04 : 12º Rallye Firestone (ESP)
16. (Coef:??) 26/04 a 28/04 : 12° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
17. (Coef:??) 27/04 a 29/04 : 10º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
18. (Coef:??) 04/05 a 06/05 : 22º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
19. (Coef:??) 10/05 a 12/05 : 15º Welsh Rally (XWA)
20. (Coef:??) 18/05 a 20/05 : 25º Rallye de Lorraine (FRA)
21. (Coef:??) 18/05 a 20/05 : 9º Rally Quattro Regioni (ITA)
22. (Coef:??) 25/05 a 27/05 : 4º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE)
23. (Coef:??) 09/06 a 12/06 : 18º RAC MSA Rally of Scotland (XSC)
24. (Coef:??) 15/06 a 17/06 : 8º Donegal International Rally (IRL)
25. (Coef:??) 15/06 a 17/06 : 14° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
26. (Coef:??) 15/06 a 16/06 : 28º ADAC Rally Hessen-Rally Deutschland (DEU)
27. (Coef:??) 22/06 a 24/06 : 4° Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA)
28. (Coef:??) 23/06 a 24/06 : 12º Rally de Orense (ESP)
29. (Coef:??) 30/06 a 01/07 : 15º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
30. (Coef:??) 30/06 a 01/07 : 6º Skoda Rally (CSK)
31. (Coef:??) 05/07 a 07/07 : 39° Rali da Polónia (POL)
32. (Coef:??) 20/07 a 21/07 : 12° AvD/STH Hunsruck Rally - Deutschland Rally (DEU)
33. (Coef:??) 27/07 a 29/07 : 14º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
34. (Coef:??) 10/08 a 12/08 : 13º Taurus Rally (HUN)
35. (Coef:??) 17/08 a 19/08 : 20ª Volta à Madeira (PRT)
36. (Coef:??) 04/09 a 06/09 : 4° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
37. (Coef:??) 07/09 a 09/09 : 16º Sachs Rally Baltic (DEU)
38. (Coef:??) 14/09 a 15/09 : 17º Rally Internacional Ilha de Man (GBR)
39. (Coef:??) 16/09 a 20/09 : 38º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
40. (Coef:??) 28/09 a 30/09 : 7º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
41. (Coef:??) 28/09 a 30/09 : 20º Rallye du Vin (CHE)
42. (Coef:??) 05/10 a 07/10 : 17º Rally Warswa - Polski Fiat (POL)
43. (Coef:??) 13/10 a 14/10 : 14º Criterium de la Chataigne (FRA)
44. (Coef:??) 13/10 a 14/10 : 22º ÖASC Rallye (AUT)
45. (Coef:??) 19/10 a 21/10 : 26º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España (ESP)
46. (Coef:??) 02/11 a 04/11 : 9ª Volta ao Algarve (PRT)

Is it correct?
some one have the missing coeff???

Thanks
Américo

sednem
2nd December 2010, 19:18
Hi boys!!!!! Can you help me with this results, please?

O.A.S.C. Rally 1977:
2° - 3° - 4° - 5°

Criterium de la Chataigne 1977:
5° Borgoin-??? (Opel Kadett GT/E)

Bosphorus Rally 1977:
2° Sevelinge-??? (Opel Kadett GT/E)
3° Murat-??? (Murat 131)
4° Ionescu-??? (Renault 12 Gordini)
5° ???-??? (??? ??? ???)

Thanks so much!!!!!

Hi Matthew, here's what I have:

6° Bosphorus Rallye Günaydin
1. #??? Ali Bacioglu (TUR)/Metin Çeker (TUR) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
2. #??? Jean-Charles Sévelinge (FRA)/Joseph Sévelinge (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
3. #??? Azmi Avcioglu (TUR)/Beyza Avcioglu (TUR) - Murat 131 -
4. #??? Eugen Ionescu (ROM)/Cristea Ionescu (ROM) - Renault 12 Gordini -
5. #??? Ali Sipahi (TUR)/Sevim Sipahi (TUR) - Murat 131 -

OASC and Chataigne, I only have the winner...

Américo

Matthewrally87
2nd December 2010, 21:15
Thanks so so so so much Sednem!!!!!

januszsz
3rd December 2010, 08:32
Hi Matthew, here's what I have:

6° Bosphorus Rallye Günaydin
1. #??? Ali Bacioglu (TUR)/Metin Çeker (TUR) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
2. #??? Jean-Charles Sévelinge (FRA)/Joseph Sévelinge (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
3. #??? Azmi Avcioglu (TUR)/Beyza Avcioglu (TUR) - Murat 131 -
4. #??? Eugen Ionescu (ROM)/Cristea Ionescu (ROM) - Renault 12 Gordini -
5. #??? Ali Sipahi (TUR)/Sevim Sipahi (TUR) - Murat 131 -

OASC and Chataigne, I only have the winner...

Américo
Hi Americo,
Are you sure it was Ali Bacioglu who won Bosphorus 1977? What about Leo Pittoni/Alberto Russo -I- Alfetta GT? By the way, do you have information on number of starters and finishers of that rally? Can you fill top 10 (if there were 10 or more finishers)?
Regards
Janusz

januszsz
3rd December 2010, 09:58
Hi,
For 79 I have a calendar... missing a lot of coef...

1. (Coef:1) 12/01 a 14/01 : 10º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef:4) 02/02 a 04/02 : 14º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
3. (Coef:2) 02/02 a 04/02 : 22º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef:2) 09/02 a 11/02 : 9º Galway Rally (IRL)
5. (Coef:3) 16/02 a 18/02 : 27º Rally Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef:3) 23/02 a 25/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
7. (Coef:2) 02/03 a 04/03 : 24º Hankiralli (FIN)
8. (Coef:2) 16/03 a 18/03 : 8º Rally di Sicilia/63º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
9. (Coef:1) 30/03 a 01/04 : 13º YU Rally (YUG)
10. (Coef:1) 04/04 a 07/04 : 2° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
11. (Coef:1) 06/04 a 08/04 : 9º ADAC Saarland Rally (DEU)
12. (Coef:4) 07/04 a 09/04 : 10º Rallye das Areias Douradas (BGR)
13. (Coef:3) 13/04 a 17/04 : 38th Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
14. (Coef:1) 20/04 a 22/04 : 23º ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
15. (Coef:2) 20/04 a 22/04 : 12º Rallye Firestone (ESP)
16. (Coef:4) 26/04 a 28/04 : 12° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
17. (Coef:2) 27/04 a 29/04 : 10º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
18. (Coef:3) 04/05 a 06/05 : 22º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
19. (Coef:2) 10/05 a 12/05 : 15º Welsh Rally (XWA)
20. (Coef:2) 18/05 a 20/05 : 25º Rallye de Lorraine (FRA)
21. (Coef:3) 18/05 a 20/05 : 9º Rally Quattro Regioni (ITA)
22. (Coef:2) 25/05 a 27/05 : 4º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE)
23. (Coef:4) 09/06 a 12/06 : 18º RAC MSA Rally of Scotland (XSC)
24. (Coef:1) 15/06 a 17/06 : 8º Donegal International Rally (IRL)
25. (Coef:2) 15/06 a 17/06 : 14° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
26. (Coef:3) 15/06 a 16/06 : 28º ADAC Rally Hessen-Rally Deutschland (DEU)
27. (Coef:1) 22/06 a 24/06 : 4° Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA)
28. (Coef:1) 23/06 a 24/06 : 12º Rally de Orense (ESP)
29. (Coef:3) 30/06 a 01/07 : 15º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
30. (Coef:1) 30/06 a 01/07 : 6º Skoda Rally (CSK)
31. (Coef:3) 05/07 a 07/07 : 39° Rali da Polónia (POL)
32. (Coef:2) 20/07 a 21/07 : 12° AvD/STH Hunsruck Rally - Deutschland Rally (DEU)
33. (Coef:2) 27/07 a 29/07 : 14º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
34. (Coef:1) 10/08 a 12/08 : 13º Taurus Rally (HUN)
35. (Coef:1) 17/08 a 19/08 : 20ª Volta à Madeira (PRT)
36. (Coef:3) 04/09 a 06/09 : 4° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
37. (Coef:1) 07/09 a 09/09 : 16º Sachs Rally Baltic (DEU)
38. (Coef:2) 14/09 a 15/09 : 17º Rally Internacional Ilha de Man (GBR)
39. (Coef:4) 16/09 a 20/09 : 38º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
40. (Coef:3) 28/09 a 30/09 : 7º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
41. (Coef:1) 28/09 a 30/09 : 20º Rallye du Vin (CHE)
42. (Coef:2) 05/10 a 07/10 : 17º Rally de Warszawa - Polski Fiat (POL)
43. (Coef:1) 13/10 a 14/10 : 14º Criterium de la Chataigne (FRA)
44. (Coef:2) 13/10 a 14/10 : 22º ÖASC Rallye (AUT)
45. (Coef:3) 19/10 a 21/10 : 26º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España (ESP)
46. (Coef:2) 02/11 a 04/11 : 9ª Volta ao Algarve (PRT)

Is it correct?
some one have the missing coeff???

Thanks
Américo
Here beneath you have coefficients
regards
Janusz

januszsz
3rd December 2010, 10:06
Anybody can fill missing results?
1965
RACE 6th-10th
1971
Geneve 7th-10th
1972
Pneumant 5tg-10th
Tour de Belgique 7th-10th
1973
Paris-St.Raphael 6th-10th
Cyprus 7th-10th
1974
San Marino 5th-10th
Firestone 7th-10th
Circuit of Ireland 7th-10th
Ypres 7th-10th
Danube 7th-10th
Taurus 6th-10th
Lugano 7th-10th
OASC 7th-10th
RACE 5th-10th
1975
Polar Bergslags 9th-10th
Ypres 7th-10th
RACE 8th-10th
1976
Sachs Winther 9th-10th
Lucien Bianchi 7th-10th
Danube 8th-10th
1977
Danube 7th-10th
OASC 2nd-10th
Algarve 6th-10th
Bosphorus 6th-10th

Thank you in advance.
Regards
Janusz

cvhi
3rd December 2010, 15:38
Hello,

If someone can help me, i search these entry list :

Danube rally 1974
Hunsruck rally 1981, 1985, 1986, 1992
Deutschland 1987, 1995

Thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr

sednem
3rd December 2010, 18:55
Hi Americo,
Are you sure it was Ali Bacioglu who won Bosphorus 1977? What about Leo Pittoni/Alberto Russo -I- Alfetta GT? By the way, do you have information on number of starters and finishers of that rally? Can you fill top 10 (if there were 10 or more finishers)?
Regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz,

According to the Istanbul rally documentation (in 2010 re-renamed Bosphurus...) winners at http://www.bosphorusrally.com/honour_board.aspx and history at http://www.bosphorusrally.com/event-history.aspx, it seems clear to me that the 77 bosphurus winner is Ali Bacıoğlu... Now my question is: does Bosphurus rally and Gunaydyn rally are the same (I think I've allready seen these "different rallys" with the same date and the same winners...).

I'm trying to retrive the documentation where I fund these results, but for sure I only have top5...

Regards
Américo

sednem
3rd December 2010, 18:57
Here beneath you have coefficients
regards
Janusz

Many thanks...!!!!

Américo

sednem
3rd December 2010, 20:05
Anybody can fill missing results?
1965
RACE 6th-10th
6. #??? Domingo Hergueta (ESP)/Angel Sagrario (ESP) - Renault 8 Gordini -
7. #??? Guy Storr (ESP)/António Fernández (ESP) - Alpine-Renault A110 -
8. #??? Pedro Muñoz (ESP)/José Rial (ESP) - Saab 96 Sport -
9. #??? Armando Cifuentes (ESP) - Ford Cortina -
10. #??? José Muñoz (ESP)/Luis Blasco (ESP) - Mini Cooper S

1971
Geneve 7th-10th
8. #??? Guy Chasseuil (FRA)/Christian Baron (FRA) - Alfa Romeo 1750 -

1972
Pneumant 5tg-10th
9. #??? Ryszard Zyszkowski (POL)/Andrzej Gieysztor (POL) - Polski Fiat 125p

1974
Ypres 7th-10th
8. #??? Walter Röhrl (DEU)/L. Carlsson (SWE) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -

Danube 7th-10th
8. #??? Ivan Arsov (BGR)/Timcho Timev (BGR) - VAZ 2101 -

RACE 5th-10th
5. #??? Genito Ortíz (ESP)/Maria Jesús Cabal (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
6. #??? Rafael Cid (ESP)/Miguel Brasa (ESP) - Seat 1430/1800 -
7. #??? José Antonio Zorrilla (ESP)/Begoña Kaibel (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 -
8. #??? Jaime Buixeda (ESP)/F. Dreyer (???) - Simca 1200-S -
9. #??? Jesus Manso (ESP)/E. Prieto (ESP) - Simca 1200-S -
10. #??? ''Niki'' (ESP)/T. Diaz (ESP) - Seat 1430/1600 -

1975
Ypres 7th-10th
7. #??? ''WortGat'' (???)/''Andy'' (BEL) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
8. #??? Muñoz (ESP)/Deruyter (BEL) - Seat 1430/1800 -
9. #??? Jean-Louis Goblet (BEL)/Alain Lopes (BEL) - Chrysler Avenger -
10. #??? Roger Engels (BEL)/Picry (BEL) - Porsche Carrera -

1976
Danube 8th-10th
8. #??? Eugen Ionescu (ROM)/Cristea Ionescu (ROM) - Renault 12 Gordini -
9. #??? Alfons Stock (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -

Janusz

For Algarve 77...
7ª Volta ao Algarve
Starters:63, arrived:28
1. #1 Mêquêpê (PRT)/Miguel Villar (PRT) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 4H45:34
2. #7 Giovanni Salvi (PRT)/José Ferreira (PRT) - Rica Lewis / Ford Escort RS2000 - 4H49:13
3. #10 André Martinho (PRT)/António Morais (PRT) - Porsche Carrera RS - 4H50:43
4. #17 José António Inverno Amaral (PRT)/Luís Calafate (PRT) - Datsun 1200 GX - 4H51:22
5. #9 Paulo Lemos (PRT)/Joaquim Bessa (PRT) - Arbo Team / Opel Kadett GT/E - 4H54:08
6. #5 Américo Nunes (PRT)/Jorge Cirne (PRT) - Porsche 911-S - 4H57:37
7. #66 Orlando Reis (PRT)/Luís Rua (PRT) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 5H06:31
8. #24 Guilherme Roldão (PRT)/Manuel Casimiro (PRT) - Fiat 124 Spider - 5H07:55
9. #40 Jean-Louis Fabre (FRA)/Vincent Crouzet (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 5H10:10
10. #4 Jorge Ortigão (PRT)/Miguel Sottomayor (PRT) - Arbo Team / Opel Ascona 1.9 SR - 5H12:19
11. #11 Carlos Peres (PRT)/José Peres (PRT) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 5H13:07
12. #34 Pierre Lartigue (FRA)/René Ponde (FRA) - Peugeot 504 Ti - 5H13:24
13. #20 Jomaro (PRT)/José Mariz (PRT) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 5H14:09
14. #52 António Soares (PRT)/António Bruno (PRT) - Salvador Caetano Toyota / Toyota Corolla - 5H15:25
15. #35 Edmond Pailhon (FRA)/Henry Calvino (FRA) - Peugeot 504 Ti - 5H24:04
16. #25 Rui Assis Ferreira (PRT)/Rui Cunha (PRT) - Fiat 124 Spider - 5H25:43
17. #30 Ramiro Fernandes (PRT)/Aurélio Vieira (PRT) - Fiat 127 - 5H27:26
18. #32 Philippe Bouchet (FRA)/Alain Faurcaud (FRA) - Ford Escort RS2000 - 5H27:56
19. #54 Faria da Silva (PRT)/Miguel Reis (PRT) - Datsun 1200 - 5H28:25
20. #39 Clive Askey (GBR)/Michael Hillier (GBR) - Peugeot 504 Ti - 5H33:40
21. #59 António José Oliveira (PRT)/João Machado (PRT) - Mazda 818 - 5H38:10
22. #33 Dominique Beaudoin (FRA)/Max Bouttaz (FRA) - Datsun 1600 SSS - 5H41:59
23. #62 Pedro Cabeçadas (PRT)/Eduardo Ramirez (PRT) - Fiat 127 - 5H44:50
24. #36 Patrick Pollet (FRA)/Geneviève Pollet (FRA) - Datsun 180 B - 5H50:43
25. #50 Fernando Faria (PRT)/Santos Pereira (PRT) - Datsun 1200 GX - 5H51:46
26. #43 João Marrazes (PRT)/Nuno Pinheiro (PRT) - BMW 2002 - 5H53:14
27. #51 Carlos Duarte (PRT)/Sá Chaves (PRT) - Datsun 1200 - 6H08:11
28. #31 José Pereira (PRT)/Rogério Ferreira (PRT) - Toyota Corona GSS - 6H21:59
Some Retirements
. #16 Carlos Fontaínhas (PRT)/Rogério Seromenho (PRT) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
. #22 Arturo Solis (ESP)/Joaquín González (ESP) - Scuderia Aviselina / Seat 1430/1800 -
. #53 Carlos Barreto (PRT)/Campos Rocha (PRT) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -
. #15 Roger Martin (FRA)/Claudine Laporte (FRA) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
. #23 Hélder Valente (PRT)/Sebastião Sanfins (PRT) - Galerias Z / Datsun 240Z -
. #6 Santinho Mendes (PRT)/Pina de Morais (PRT) - Datsun 120Y -
. #3 Mário Silva (PRT) - Porsche 911-S -
. #19 António Onofre (PRT)/João Reis (PRT) - Datsun 1600 SSS -
. #26 António Cabrita (PRT)/José Nobre (PRT) - Hotel Turial / Porsche 911-S -
. #63 João Cerqueira (PRT)/Rui Caravilla (PRT) - Datsun 120Y -
. #14 Chavan (BEL)/Willy Plas (BEL) - Sigma / Renault 5 Alpine -
. #2 António Diegues (PRT)/Henrique Alegria (PRT) - Arbo Team / Porsche Carrera RS -
. #18 Domingos Santos (PRT)/Luís Pinto de Freitas (PRT) - NASACAR / Ford Escort RS2000 -
. #21 Jorge Nascimento (PRT)/Manuel Coentro (PRT) - BMW 2002 -
. #27 Horácio Ribeiro (PRT)/Francisco Brandão (PRT) - Team James / Opel Kadett GT/E -
. #29 Mário Coutinho (PRT)/Fernando Sarmento (PRT) - Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -
. #28 Henrique Brites (PRT)/João Queiroz (PRT) - Fiat 124 Spider -
. #44 José Pedro Borges (PRT)/Rui Bevilacqua (PRT) - Miura / Opel Ascona 1.9 SR -
. #8 Carlos Torres (PRT)/Pedro de Almeida (PRT) - Torrauto / Mazda RX3 -
. #58 Manuel Fernandes (PRT)/Luis Alegria (PRT) - Salvador Caetano Toyota / Toyota Celica GT -


Now, for some rallys you have some data that I don't have...

1974 San Marino 3th-4th
1974 Circuit of Ireland 2th-6th
1974 Ypres 6th
1974 Lugano 4th-6th
1974 OASC 6th
1975 Polar Bergslags 6th-8th
1976 Sachs Winther 6th-8th
1976 Lucien Bianchi 6th
1976 Danube 6th

Can you???

Thanks
Américo

januszsz
4th December 2010, 15:41
Hi Americo,
Thank you for your delivery. Here below you have your answers:

1974 San Marino 3th-4th
3. Claudio De Eccher / Claudio Salvador - I - Porsche Carrera RS
4. Donatella Tominz / Gabriela Mamolo - I - Fiat 124 Spyder Abarth

1974 Circuit of Ireland 2th-6th
2. Ronnie McCartney / Peter Scott -GB- Porsche Carrera RS
3. Billy Coleman / E. White -IRL/?- Ford Escort RS1600
4. Adrian Boyd / Beattie Crawford -IRL- Ford Escort RS1600
5. Jack Tordoff / Phil Short -GB- Ford Escort RS1600
6. Forde / Paul Phelan -?/IRL- Ford Escort RS1600

1974 Ypres 6th
6. Jean-Paul Rieu / Antoon Daemers -?/B- Porsche Carrera

1974 Lugano 4th-6th
4. Beretta / Pirovano -?-
5. Finzi / Faggioli -?-
6. De Angelis / Gasproli -?-
sorry, no cars

1974 OASC 6th
6. Hermann / Hermann -D- Porsche Carrera RS

1975 Polar Bergslags 6th-8th
6. Lars-Erik Jäderlund / Jäderlund -S- Opel Ascona 1900
7. Wallin / Eriksson -S- Ford Escort
8. Leif Andersson / Kingsmo -S- Ford Escort RS2000

1976 Sachs Winther 6th-8th
6. Hans Stück / Ulla Stück -D- Porsche Carrera RS
7. Reinhard Hainbach / Peter Linzen -D- Ford Escort RS2000
8. Wolfgang Hauck / Gollin -D- Opel Kadett GT/E

1976 Lucien Bianchi 6th
6. Jean-Marie Carron / Pierre Schaer -CH- Porsche Carrera RS

1976 Danube 6th
6. Svatopluk Kvaizar / Jiri Kotek -CS- Skoda 120S

Regards
Janusz

Steve Boyd
5th December 2010, 10:36
Hi,
For 79 I have a calendar... missing a lot of coef...

23. (Coef:??) 09/06 a 12/06 : 18º RAC MSA Rally of Scotland (XSC)

The correct name of this rally is RSAC Scottish Rally and 1979 was the 34th edition of the rally, but only the 18th time there was an award for the overall winner. It still runs every year as a national status rally in the Scottish rally championship (http://www.scottishrally.co.uk).
It is a completely different event from the "RAC MSA Rally of Scotland" currently in the IRC which ran for the 1st time in 2009.

Matthewrally87
5th December 2010, 12:39
Can someone help me with these results, please?

1979

Janner Rally 4°-5°
Galway Rally 2°-3-4°-5°
Costa Brava 2°-3°-4°-5°
Sachs Winter Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Hanki Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Saarland Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Circuit of Ireland 2°-3°-4°-5°
Firestone Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Arbo Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Criterium Lucien Bianchi 2°-3°-4°-5°
Criterium Alpin 2°-3°-4°-5°
Wales Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Lorraine 2°-3°-4°-5°
Scottish Rally 2°-4°
Hessen Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Antibes Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Rally Ourense 2°-3°-4°-5°
Skoda Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Hunsruck Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Taurus Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Madeira 3°-4°-5°
Sachs Baltic Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Tour de France de l'Automobile 2°-3°-4°-5°
Vin 2°-3°-4°-5°
Cyprus 2°-3°-4°-5°
OASC Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Chataigne 2°-3°-4°-5°
RACE Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
Algarve 2°-3°-4°-5°

Thanks So Much to every one!!!!!

sednem
5th December 2010, 14:45
Hi Americo,
Thank you for your delivery. Here below you have your answers:

1974 San Marino 3th-4th (...)

Regards
Janusz

Thanks a lot Janusz

Américo!

sednem
5th December 2010, 14:48
The correct name of this rally is RSAC Scottish Rally and 1979 was the 34th edition of the rally, but only the 18th time there was an award for the overall winner. It still runs every year as a national status rally in the Scottish rally championship (www.scottishrally.co.uk) (http://www.scottishrally.co.uk)).
It is a completely different event from the "RAC MSA Rally of Scotland" currently in the IRC which ran for the 1st time in 2009.

Many Thanks Steve,
I thought that Rally of Scotland and Scottish Rally was the same "history"...

Américo!

sednem
5th December 2010, 14:56
[quote="Matthewrally87"]Can someone help me with these results, please?

1979

Janner Rally 4°-5° (...)
quote]

Hi Matthew,

Right now I'm also digging info for 79 rallying season (ERC, WRC, Nationals...) - at least top10 - (seems you're only looking for top 5) and I have some interesting stuff... just let me insert all of these stuff in my DB then i'll share wiyh you - it ill be easear for me - maybe by the end of the week...

Regards,
Américo

FAL
5th December 2010, 17:44
1975
Ypres 7th-10th
7. #??? ''WortGat'' (???)/''Andy'' (BEL) - Ford Escort RS1600 -
8. #??? Muñoz (ESP)/Deruyter (BEL) - Seat 1430/1800 -
9. #??? Jean-Louis Goblet (BEL)/Alain Lopes (BEL) - Chrysler Avenger -
10. #??? Roger Engels (BEL)/Picry (BEL) - Porsche Carrera -


"Moortgat"/"Andy"

cal5658
5th December 2010, 20:28
For Januszsz

1974 Circuit of Ireland

3rd Billy Coleman/Leo White
6th Gerry Forde/Paul Phelan
7th Brian Nelson/Drexel Gillespie BMW 2002
8th John Tansey/Rea Inglis Porsche Carrera RS
9th Oliver Hadden/Christopher McCaul Porsche Carrera RS
10th Erik Aaby/ Bjorn Lie Opel Ascona

cal5658
5th December 2010, 20:41
For Matthewrally87

1979

Galway
2nd Mick O’Connell/Anne O’Connell Ford Escort
3rd Noel Smith/ Ian Turkington Porsche Carrera
4th Alan Carter/ Brendan Neville Ford Escort RS2000
5th Trevor Cathers/ Seamus McCanny Avenger

Circuit of Ireland
2nd Billy Coleman/Frank O’Donoghue Ford Escort
3rd Bertie Fisher/Austin Frazer Ford Escort
4th Ger Buckley/John Caplice Ford Escort
5th Dessie McCartney/ Peter Scott Chrysler Sunbeam

januszsz
5th December 2010, 21:28
Thank you FAL and Cal
Janusz

Matthewrally87
5th December 2010, 21:35
Thanks so so so much cal5658!!!!!

januszsz
5th December 2010, 22:23
Can someone help me with these results, please?

1979


Thanks So Much to every one!!!!!

Janner Rally 4°-5°
4. Herbert Grünsteidl / Helmut Neverla -A- VW Golf GTI
5. Walter Smolej / Bernd Ostmann -A/D- Opel Kadett GT/E

Costa Brava 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Mauro Pregliasco / Vittorio Reisoli - I -Alfetta GTV
3. Billy Coleman / Jim Porter -IRL/GB- Escort RS1800
4. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Kadett GT/E
5. "Didi" / Andre Pauly -B- 131 Abarth

Sachs Winter Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Holger Bohne / Peter Diekmann -D- Golf GTI
3. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Kadett GT/E
4. Harald Demuth / Arwed Fischer -D- Audi 80
5. Sepp Haider / Jorg Pattermann -D- Kadett GT/E

Hanki Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Ulf Gronholm / Bob Rehnstrom -FIN- 131 Abarth
3. Lasse Lampi / Pentti Kuukkala -FIN- Escort RS
4. Hannu Valtaharju / Risto Anttila -FIN- Escort RS
5. Kyosti Hämäläinen / Heikki Palmuaro -FIN- Escort RS

Saarland Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Holger Bohne / Peter Diekmann -D- Golf GTI
3. Walter Smolej / Klaus Hopfe -A/D- Audi 80
4. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Ascona
5. Reinhard Hainbach / Klaus Fabisch -D- Escort RS1800

Firestone Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jose Luis Sallent / J. Puvill -E- Kadett GT/E
3. J. Franquesa / Blancafort -E- Seat 124 1800
4. Carlos Torres / Pedro de Almeida -P- Escort RS2000
5. "Correcaminos" / Rueda -E- Seat 124 1800

Arbo Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Harald Demuth / Arwed Fischer -D- Audi 80
3. Sepp Haider / Jorg Pattermann -A- Kadett GT/E
4. Freddy Kottulinsky / Michael Schwägerl -S/D- Audi 80
5. Wolfgang Sulc / Fritz Weixelbraun -A- 911SC

Criterium Lucien Bianchi 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jean-Louis Dumont / Robert Rorife -B- Chevette 2300HS
3. Jean-Marie Jacquemin / Destat -B- Chrysler Sunbeam
4. Hermes Delbar / Willy Lux -B- 911SC
5. Nicolas Koob / Goedert -L/?- 911SC

Criterium Alpin 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Pier-Cesar Baroni / Roger Baud -F- 911sc
3. Yves Loubet / Mandrea -F- Kadett GT/E
4. Jean-Louis Clarr / Jean-Francois Fauchille -F- Kadett GT/E
5. Christian Gardavot / Claude Ferrato -F- 911SC

Wales Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Russell Brookes / Paul White -GB- Escort RS1800
3. Malcolm Wilson / Terry Harryman -GB- Escort RS1800
4. John Taylor / Phil Short -GB- Escort RS1800
5. Tony Pond / Monty Peters -GB- Chrysler Sunbeam

Lorraine 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jean-Claude Andruet / Chantal Lienard -F- 131 Abarth
3. Michele Mouton / Francoise Conconi -F- 131 Abarth
4. Jean-Louis Clarr / Jean-Francois Fauchille -F- Kadett GT/E
5. Francis Roussely / Diss -F/?- 911SC

Scottish Rally 2°-4°
2. Malcolm Wilson / Terry Harryman -GB- Escort RS1800
3. Per Eklund / Hans-Erik Sylvan -S- TR7 V8
4. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Kadett GT/E

Hessen Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Ascona
3. Andy Dawson / Arwed? Fischer -GB/D- Datsun 160J
4. Jens Ole Kristiansen / Hans Jensen -DK- Ascona
5. Armin Kohl / Hans Prüfert -D- 911SC

Antibes Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Michele Mouton / Francoise Conconi -F- 131 Abarth
3. Alain Cudini / Jean Bourgoin -F- Golf GTI
4. Yves Loubet / Alemany -F- Kadett GT/E
5. Dominique de Meyer / J. Bolla -F- Kadett GT/E

Rally Ourense 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Rizos Munoz / Valverde -E- 911SC
3. Genito Ortiz / Susi Cabal -E- Simca 1200TI
4. Jose Luis Sallent / Casanovas -E- Kadett GT/E
5. Pablo de Sousa / Antonio Boto -E- Seat 124 1800

Skoda Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Leo Pavlik / Borivoj Motl -CS- R5 Alpine
3. Vlastimil Havel / Jan Soukup -CS- Skoda 130RS
4. Attila Ferjancz / Janos Tandari -H- R5 Alpine
5. Jens Ole Kristiansen / Rune Thomsen -DK- Ascona

Hunsruck Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Lars Carlsson / Karl-Ernst Ufer -S/D- Escort RS
3. Reinhard Hainbach / Klaus Fabisch -D- Escort RS1800
4. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Ascona
5. Billy Coleman / Brendan Neville -IRL/NZ- Escort RS1800

Taurus Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Georg Fischer / Harald Gottlieb -A- Datsun Sunny
3. Gyula Simor / Zoltan Panics -H- Lada 1600
4. Janos Hideg / Csaba Bojtay -H- Lada 1600
5. Istvan Gal / Margo -H- R17 Gordini

Madeira 3°-4°-5°
3. Angel Davilis Falcon / Jose Ortega -E- Isuzu Gemini
4. Manuel Rodriguez / Antonio Castro -E- Kadett GT/E
5. Jose Goncalves / Fernado Miguel Oliveira -E- Escort RS2000

Sachs Baltic Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Tapio Rainio / Alf Krogell -FIN- Celica
3. Achim Warmbold / Henry Liddon -D/GB- Celica
4. Jens Ole Kristiansen / Nils Pedersen -DK- Ascona
5. Holger Bohne / Peter Diekmann -D- Golf GTI

Tour de France de l'Automobile 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jean-Claude Andruet / Chantal Lienard -F- 131 Abarth
3. Michele Mouton / Francoise Conconi -F- 131 Abarth
4. Jean-Louis Clarr / Jean-Francois Fauchille -F- Kadett GT/E
5. Yves Loubet / Alemany -F- Kadett GT/E

Vin 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jean Elie Fornage / Besse -CH- 911SC
3. Chris Carron / Jean-P. Läderach -CH- Kadett GT/E
4. Reuche / Junod -CH- Kadett GT/E
5. Willy Corboz / Philippe Duvoisin -CH- Kadett GT/E

Cyprus 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Ascona
3. Kypros Kyprianou / Theodoros Vassiliades -CY- Talbot Sunbeam
4. "Leonidas" / Andreas Arkentis -GR- R5 Alpine
5. Dimi Mavropoulos / Charalambous -CY- Talbot Avenger

OASC Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Harald Demuth / Arwed Fischer -D- Audi 80
3. Sepp Haider / Jorg Pattermann -A- Kadett GT/E
4. Manfred Essig / Dieter Oberortner -A- Kadett GT/E
5. John Peter Bittner / Polak -A- Kadett GT/E

Chataigne 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Michele Mouton / Francoise Conconi -F- 131 Abarth
3. Jean-Hugues Hazard / Gibaud -F- 911SC
4. Michel Teihol / Francoise Teihol -F- 911SC
5. Alain Cudini / "Tilber" -F- Golf GTI

RACE Rally 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jochi Kleint / Günter Wanger -D- Ascona
3. Antonio Zanini / Jorge Sabater -E- 131 Abarth
4. Augustin / Leopoldo Varela -E- Simca 1200TI
5. Błażej Krupa / Piotr Mystkowski -PL- R5 Alpine

Algarve 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Carlos Fontainhas / Rogerio Sermenho -P- Escort RS
3. Guilherne Roldao / Antonio Marcelino -P- Seat 124 1800
4. Joaquin Santos / Luis Alegria -P- Kadett GT/E
5. Cabecadas / Jose Conde -P- Escort GT
Regards
Janusz

Matthewrally87
6th December 2010, 08:50
Thanks so much januszsz!!!!!

cvhi
8th December 2010, 10:32
Hello,

if someone can help me, i search the name (pilot and copilot car) on entry list manx rally 1995

N°14, 18, 23, 66, 72, and 81 this number is on entry list only, because not start.

Thank you for your help
mlanders@orange.fr

Steve Boyd
8th December 2010, 16:54
Hello,

if someone can help me, i search the name (pilot and copilot car) on entry list manx rally 1995

N°14, 18, 23, 66, 72, and 81 this number is on entry list only, because not start.

Thank you for your help
mlanders@orange.fr
Hi Christophe
I have (from the programme) the following:
Number/Entrant/Driver/Co-Driver/Car/Class
14/Nissan F2/Ari Mokkonen(Fin)/Juha Repo(FIN)/Nissan Sunny GTI/A7
18/Mark Lovell/Mark Lovell(GB)/Duncan McMath(GB)/Toyota Celica Turbo 4WD/A8
23/David Higgins/David Higgins(GB)/Michael Park(GB)/Ford Escort RS2000/A7
66 - No entry listed
72 - No entry listed
81/Edwin Gregory/Edwin Gregory(GB)/Tom Peddle(GB)/Renault Clio Williams/N3

cvhi
8th December 2010, 20:13
Thank you steve for your complement

cvhi
8th December 2010, 20:48
Hi steve,

Perhaps you have program Manx Rally 1987, because i dont have N°9, N°42, N°52, N°63, N°64, N°65, N°119, and N°131

Many thanks for your help my friend

MG Rally
8th December 2010, 20:48
I am researching the works / ex-works Group A Rover Vitesse, and I wonder if anyone can fill in the following gaps for my files please...

A479 WOE - Mike Stuart
1985 National Breakdown Rally - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Circuit of Ireland Rally - need Overall and Group A results please?
1985 Lloyds Bowmaker Scotish Rally - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Lloyds Bowmaker Scotish Rally - need Result (Overall / Group A OR Retired) please?
1985 British Midland Ulster Rally - need Entry No please?
1985 British Midland Ulster Rally - need Result (Overall / Group A OR Retired) please?

A480 WOE - Russell Gooding
1985 Hankiralli (Finland) - need Entry No please?
1985 Hankiralli (Finland) - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Zlatni-Piassatzi (Bulgaria) - need Entry No please?
1985 Hunsruck Rally (Germany) - need Entry No please?
1985 Hunsruck Rally (Germany) - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Halkidikis Rally (Greece) - need Entry No please?
1985 Tudor Webasto Manx Int'l Rally - need Result (Overall / Group A OR Retired) please?
1985 Cyprus Rally - I have no information if Russell Gooding even entered this one, so I need everything - Entry No, Co-driver's Name & Results!
1985 Algarve Rally (Portugal) - I have no information if Russell Gooding even entered this one, so I need everything - Entry No, Co-driver's Name & Results!

If anybody has any of the above event programmes, entry lists, results, or even any post-event magazine reports, I would really appreciate if they could let me know any of the above missing details - MANY THANKS!

Steve Boyd
9th December 2010, 13:06
Hi steve,

Perhaps you have program Manx Rally 1987, because i dont have N°9, N°42, N°52, N°63, N°64, N°65, N°119, and N°131

Many thanks for your help my friend
Sorry Christophe - I haven't got any information for that year.

jrally
9th December 2010, 14:05
I am researching the works / ex-works Group A Rover Vitesse, and I wonder if anyone can fill in the following gaps for my files please...

A479 WOE - Mike Stuart
1985 National Breakdown Rally - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Circuit of Ireland Rally - need Overall and Group A results please?
1985 Lloyds Bowmaker Scotish Rally - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Lloyds Bowmaker Scotish Rally - need Result (Overall / Group A OR Retired) please?
1985 British Midland Ulster Rally - Nº 24
1985 British Midland Ulster Rally - 12th overall, 3th group A

A480 WOE - Russell Gooding
1985 Hankiralli (Finland) - need Entry No please?
1985 Hankiralli (Finland) - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Zlatni-Piassatzi (Bulgaria) - need Entry No please?
1985 Hunsruck Rally (Germany) - need Entry No please?
1985 Hunsruck Rally (Germany) - need Co-driver's Name please?
1985 Halkidikis Rally (Greece) - need Entry No please?
1985 Tudor Webasto Manx Int'l Rally - retired, car broke SS12
1985 Cyprus Rally - I have no information if Russell Gooding even entered this one, so I need everything - Entry No, Co-driver's Name & Results!
1985 Algarve Rally (Portugal) - I have no information if Russell Gooding even entered this one, so I need everything - Entry No, Co-driver's Name & Results!

If anybody has any of the above event programmes, entry lists, results, or even any post-event magazine reports, I would really appreciate if they could let me know any of the above missing details - MANY THANKS!

The rest I will look for, tonight !
Best regards
Jorge

jrally
11th December 2010, 11:14
Hi !
Here what I could find ...

A479 WOE - Mike Stuart
1985 British Midland Ulster Rally - need Entry No please? Nº 24
1985 British Midland Ulster Rally - need Result (Overall / Group A OR Retired) please? 12th overall, 3th group A

A480 WOE - Russell Gooding
1985 Hankiralli (Finland) - need Entry No please? Nº 45
1985 Hankiralli (Finland) - need Co-driver's Name please? Hywel Thomas
1985 Zlatni-Piassatzi (Bulgaria) - need Entry No please? 16
1985 Hunsruck Rally (Germany) - need Co-driver's Name please? Steve Bond
1985 Halkidikis Rally (Greece) - need Entry No please?
1985 Tudor Webasto Manx Int'l Rally - need Result (Overall / Group A OR Retired) please? retired, accident

No entry on Cyprus, Algarve and Halkidikis

Other entries of Gooding
RACE-Costa Blanca with Rob Arthur, retired (accident). Sorry no start number
Costa Smeralda with Hywel Thomas, 9th overall, 3th group A, start Nº 15
Ypres with Ed Morgan, retired (differential), start Nº 25

Other entries of Stuart
Ypres with Mike Broad, Nº 28, 15th overall
Manx with Brian Goff, Nº 25, retired (axle)

Hope it helps
Best regards
Jorge

cvhi
12th December 2010, 18:12
Hello,

I search entry list about Condroz (Belgium) 1984 1985 1986 1987, Boucles de Spa 1980 1981 1982 1984 1985 1986. I f someone can help me.

Many thanks
mlanders@orange.fr

MG Rally
13th December 2010, 21:21
Thank you very much Jorge for answering my questions. I have now had a chance to add it all to my files, and there are one or two differences...

Mike Stuart :
85 Circuit of Ireland - co-driver Brian Goff OR Jon Savage?
85 Ypres - co-driver Frank Rowlands OR Mike Broad?

Russell Gooding :
85 Costa Smeralda - co-driver Bryan Thomas OR Hywel Thomas?
85 Halkidiki - I have a note that Gooding DID actually enter this rally with Rob Arthur co-driving, but they retired on Stage 3 following an accident? But I have no proof because I cannot remember where I saw it!

Would it be possible for you to check your information, and possibly scan the items for me so that I have some proof for the future?

I think sometimes the co-driver information is different depending if you are looking at an Entry List before the event, or Final Results after the event, as sometimes the co-driver would change from the original name on the entry form.

Thank you! :)

harriswrc
13th December 2010, 21:39
I am researching the works / ex-works Group A Rover Vitesse, and I wonder if anyone can fill in the following gaps for my files please...

A480 WOE - Russell Gooding

1985 Halkidikis Rally (Greece) - need Entry No please?

1985 Cyprus Rally[I] - I have no information if Russell Gooding even entered this one, so I need everything - Entry No, Co-driver's Name & Results!
[U]

If anybody has any of the above event programmes, entry lists, results, or even any post-event magazine reports, I would really appreciate if they could let me know any of the above missing details - MANY THANKS!
Here is a photo of Gooding at Halkidiki Rally 1985:

http://www.r40.gr/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=54767&
His starting number is most likely No22.

About Cyprus 1985, as I see from entrylist of official programm he didn't entered at all.

jrally
14th December 2010, 13:51
Here is a photo of Gooding at Halkidiki Rally 1985:

http://www.r40.gr/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=54767&
His starting number is most likely No22.

About Cyprus 1985, as I see from entrylist of official programm he didn't entered at all.

Hi Harris !
I took that information from british magazine RallySport which usually described in the final classifications the british crews that have participated ! And in the result of Halkidikis 85 it said: "No british drivers"

But possibly they are wrong !

Best regards
Jorge

MG Rally
14th December 2010, 14:16
That is excellent Harris - many thanks for the link to the photo and the Entry No. Do you have any proof of the Entry No that you could scan and upload here for me please?...

...why did you say 'most likely' No 22 - are you not 100% sure?

Even Rally Sport makes mistakes then Jorge! :rolleyes:

MG Rally
14th December 2010, 14:27
Another Rover mystery rally entry that I need the help of this excellent forum in solving!...

In 1985 Ian 'Del' Lines of Weston-Super-Mare, England bought the complete Austin Rover Middle East Rally Team which comprised three Group 2 Rover Vitesse, and enough spares to build a further four cars!

One car was registered A377 VUK and debuted in 1985 on an unknown rally in Belgium driven by Ruben Borjesson - who was apparently a member of the King of Sweden’s bodyguard!

The Rover was lying first in the event when the battery exploded due to the ‘Pavé’ roads in Belgium.

If anybody knows what event this was on, the Entry Nº, or any photos of this car that would fill an important gap in my history files. Many thanks!

kabouter
14th December 2010, 16:25
Mike Stuart :
85 Ypres - co-driver Frank Rowlands OR Mike Broad?

According to a scanned result I have from a Belgian annual (I think it is Willy Weyens' Rallyworld) it was Stuart/Rowlands in 15th (and Wood/Broad in 12th).

If you contact me by e-mail, I can send you the scan.

MG Rally
14th December 2010, 18:06
Thank you kabouter - you have an email!

FAL
14th December 2010, 20:29
Another Rover mystery rally entry that I need the help of this excellent forum in solving!...
In 1985 Ian 'Del' Lines of Weston-Super-Mare, England bought the complete Austin Rover Middle East Rally Team which comprised three Group 2 Rover Vitesse, and enough spares to build a further four cars!
One car was registered A377 VUK and debuted in 1985 on an unknown rally in Belgium driven by Ruben Borjesson - who was apparently a member of the King of Sweden’s bodyguard!
The Rover was lying first in the event when the battery exploded due to the ‘Pavé’ roads in Belgium.
If anybody knows what event this was on, the Entry Nº, or any photos of this car that would fill an important gap in my history files. Many thanks!
I'd be surprised if it was leading any Belgian event of a status to allow foreign entries. It was all pretty specialised and competitive with GpB/"GpR" cars even at National Championship level, leave alone Open. It wasn't Rallye de Wallonie 85 (an Open round), as I did that. Ruben Borjesson had links with Bath Motor Club in the UK (and raced at Castle Combe circuit too?).
Gp2 or GpA?

harriswrc
14th December 2010, 21:00
That is excellent Harris - many thanks for the link to the photo and the Entry No. Do you have any proof of the Entry No that you could scan and upload here for me please?...

...why did you say 'most likely' No 22 - are you not 100% sure?

Even Rally Sport makes mistakes then Jorge! :rolleyes: I am not sure about the starting number. I write "most likely" because the "jump" on photos is from one of the first stages of the rally, the photographer put the photos by the time the cars were coming, No20 is Driano- Juillot (Citroen Visa 1000 Pistes), No21 is Hampis- Mavridis (Ford Escort RS) (the 2 previous photos of Gooding), No23 is Toivonen Harri (Fiat Ritmo), No24 is Rayneri- Pirollo (Fiat Ritmo), no25 is Fabbri (Fiat Ritmo) (the 3 next photos), so "most likely" Gooding is no22.

MG Rally
14th December 2010, 22:13
I'd be surprised if it was leading any Belgian event of a status to allow foreign entries. It was all pretty specialised and competitive with GpB/"GpR" cars even at National Championship level, leave alone Open. It wasn't Rallye de Wallonie 85 (an Open round), as I did that. Ruben Borjesson had links with Bath Motor Club in the UK (and raced at Castle Combe circuit too?).
Gp2 or GpA?
I too was a little surprised FAL to hear that a privateer Rover would be leading a Belgian rally - especially in 1985 when there were some very fast drivers in very fast Grp B cars!

I know that when Ian 'Del' Lines bought the team, the cars were all Grp 2 specification, but I am unsure if they were modified to Grp A Vitesse specification after he acquired them.

Here is the link to the information I have > http://www.roversd1club.net/features/profile-ianlines.asp < and about halfway down it states...

"The first rally for A377VUK was in Belgium. His driver, Ruben Borjesson (a member of the King of Sweden’s bodyguard!) was lying first in the event when the battery exploded due to the ‘Pavé’ roads in Belgium."

Bath MC could quite possibly have been Ian 'Del' Lines motor club too as Weston-Super-Mare is only about 30 miles from Bath. Castle Combe would certainly have been their local circuit though.

MG Rally
14th December 2010, 22:16
I am not sure about the starting number. I write "most likely" because the "jump" on photos is from one of the first stages of the rally, the photographer put the photos by the time the cars were coming, No20 is Driano- Juillot (Citroen Visa 1000 Pistes), No21 is Hampis- Mavridis (Ford Escort RS) (the 2 previous photos of Gooding), No23 is Toivonen Harri (Fiat Ritmo), No24 is Rayneri- Pirollo (Fiat Ritmo), no25 is Fabbri (Fiat Ritmo) (the 3 next photos), so "most likely" Gooding is no22.
Thank you Harris - I now understand why you said 'most likely'. I will enter it at No 22 for the moment, but will try and confirm it with an official programme or entry list if I find one in the future.

Thank you.

MG Rally
14th December 2010, 22:17
I am not sure about the starting number. I write "most likely" because the "jump" on photos is from one of the first stages of the rally, the photographer put the photos by the time the cars were coming, No20 is Driano- Juillot (Citroen Visa 1000 Pistes), No21 is Hampis- Mavridis (Ford Escort RS) (the 2 previous photos of Gooding), No23 is Toivonen Harri (Fiat Ritmo), No24 is Rayneri- Pirollo (Fiat Ritmo), no25 is Fabbri (Fiat Ritmo) (the 3 next photos), so "most likely" Gooding is no22.
Thank you Harris - I now undertand why you said 'most likely'. I will enter it at No 22 for the moment, but will try and confirm it with an official programme or entry list if I find one in the future.

Thank you.

kabouter
15th December 2010, 15:14
1. Monte Carlo 22-29.01
2. Arctic 04-06.02 (ERC)
3. Swedish 11-13.02
4. Portugal 01-06.3
5. Safari 07-11.4
6. New Zealand 01-07.5
7. Akropolis 28.5-03.6
8. Giro d'Italia (FIA)
9. Total South Africa 05-09.7 (FIA)
10. Polski 08-10.7 (ERC)
11. 1000 Lakes 26-28.8
12. San Martino di Castrozza 02-04.9 (ERC)
13. Quebec 15-18.9
14. Tour de France 15-24.9 (ERC)
15. Sanremo 04-08-10
16. Southern Cross 08-12.10 (FIA)
17. RACE 21-23.10 (ERC)
18. Tour de Corse 05-06.11
19. RAC 18-24.11
20. Bandama 15-20.12 (FIA)

Let's go back to something we discussed almost two years ago: the FIA Cup for Drivers 1977. I've now got leading finishers online for all rounds ( http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=season&champid=fiacd1977 ) and it would be nice to come up with a more complete points listing than the top 3 I have now.

The problem with drawing up a classification is the rule that if a driver did not take part in an ERC coefficient 4 round, his best score in a WRC event was scrapped (in my opinion a rather silly rule - but we can't change that anymore after more than 30 years...). This means that for all drivers who scored in WRC rallies, we need to know if they took part in one of the five ERC coefficient 4 rallies. For the Arctic Rally I have a full start list so that rally doesn't present a problem, but for the other four my information is not complete. Especially for the 1977 Tour de France I hardly know anything.

Can anyone help with more detailed information on the 1977 Rajd Polski, Rally San Martino di Castrozza, Tour de France Automobile or RACE Rallye de España?

Something else which would help is an official championship classification. Unfortunately the 1978 FIA yearbook went to press before the 1977 rally season was over and no final classification of the 1977 FIA Cup was published that year. Perhaps in the 1979 FIA yearbook?

BDunnell
15th December 2010, 15:51
Something else which would help is an official championship classification. Unfortunately the 1978 FIA yearbook went to press before the 1977 rally season was over and no final classification of the 1977 FIA Cup was published that year. Perhaps in the 1979 FIA yearbook?

kabouter, hello again. I have every issue of Motor Sport magazine from the 1970s on CD, thanks to a subscriptions offer. So I'll look in there, just in case they published anything. I doubt it, as they didn't tend to publish great lists of results or standings, but you never know.

ReWind
15th December 2010, 16:11
Nice to see you are back, Tjeerd.

A small addendum to your database:
Germany
Ferdi (full name: Ferdinand) Bökmann, died on 05 December 2010
Great Britain
Barbara Armstrong, b. 05 January 1966
Mike Brown, b. 29 December 1971
John Connor, b. 26 June 1966
Elfyn Evans, b. 28 December 1988
Richard Moore, b. 04 November 1958
Max Utting, b. 07 March 1986
Spencer Wilkinson, b. 16 April 1971
Ireland
Martin Brady, b. 22 February 1979
Italy
Piter Cibin, b. 18 February 1974
Massimo Bergomi, b. 01 January 1970
Vasco Lanfranchi, b. 07 August 1985
Kenya
Peter Horsey, b. 27 April 1983
Kuwait
Meshari Al-Thefiri (your preferred spelling is “Al-Dafiri”), b. 24 November 1982
Luxemburg
Joëlle Wiltgen, b. 28 March 1971
Netherlands
Kees van Grieken, died on 14 September 2010
Jalmar van Weeren, b. 15 August 1974
Poland
Jakub Gerber, b. 29 September 1977
Sweden
Anita (full name: Anita Margareta) Jansson, b. 12 March 1961
Per-Arne Sääv, b. 09 December 1960
Janne (full name: Jan Staffan) Westlund, b. 16 December 1963
Switzerland
Roland Scherrer, died on 01 October 2010
Sylvain Trombert, b. 22 November 1981

FAL
15th December 2010, 23:22
I too was a little surprised FAL to hear that a privateer Rover would be leading a Belgian rally - especially in 1985 when there were some very fast drivers in very fast Grp B cars!

I know that when Ian 'Del' Lines bought the team, the cars were all Grp 2 specification, but I am unsure if they were modified to Grp A Vitesse specification after he acquired them.

Here is the link to the information I have > http://www.roversd1club.net/features/profile-ianlines.asp < and about halfway down it states...

"The first rally for A377VUK was in Belgium. His driver, Ruben Borjesson (a member of the King of Sweden’s bodyguard!) was lying first in the event when the battery exploded due to the ‘Pavé’ roads in Belgium."

Bath MC could quite possibly have been Ian 'Del' Lines motor club too as Weston-Super-Mare is only about 30 miles from Bath. Castle Combe would certainly have been their local circuit though.

I only did one event in Belgium in 85 but I was reading the Belgian magazines regularly and I can't recall that. I wonder if its an editing thing, combining two events/incidents into one sentence? Mark Duez's Belga GpA car was the only regular SD1 rally car I recall there. Walkinshaw of course did the Bianchi Rally in A works SD1 and retired (but that was axle??).
The photo in the link captioned as Timberscombe Forest is the bump at the bottom of Chargot Wood, not Timberscombe.

kabouter
16th December 2010, 08:54
Nice to see you are back, Tjeerd.

A small addendum to your database:
Germany

Thank you Reinhard, all dates from your message are included in the database now.

MG Rally
16th December 2010, 18:39
I only did one event in Belgium in 85 but I was reading the Belgian magazines regularly and I can't recall that. I wonder if its an editing thing, combining two events/incidents into one sentence? Mark Duez's Belga GpA car was the only regular SD1 rally car I recall there. Walkinshaw of course did the Bianchi Rally in A works SD1 and retired (but that was axle??).
The photo in the link captioned as Timberscombe Forest is the bump at the bottom of Chargot Wood, not Timberscombe.
Mmmmmmmm, it is certainly a strange one. I think I will leave it alone for the moment, and try and talk to Ian 'Del' Lines himself about it all. If a mistake can be made regarding the location of a jump on a stage after 20 years (as you pointed out FAL), then I am sure a similar mistake could be made about a rally - possibly even two spoken sentences being typed together when the person wrote the article?

Regarding Belgian rallies that Rovers entered :

1983 Bianchi - Walkinshaw / Davenport - Accident
1984 Ardennes - Duez / Lux - Broken halfshaft
1984 Bianchi - Duez / Lux - Broken differential
1985 Ypres - Duez / Arthur - Accident
1985 Bianchi - Duez / ??????? - Withdrawn before start...

...not a very good record for the car! :(

sednem
17th December 2010, 09:46
Let's go back to something we discussed almost two years ago: the FIA Cup for Drivers 1977. I've now got leading finishers online for all rounds ( http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=season&champid=fiacd1977 ) and it would be nice to come up with a more complete points listing than the top 3 I have now.

The problem with drawing up a classification is the rule that if a driver did not take part in an ERC coefficient 4 round, his best score in a WRC event was scrapped (in my opinion a rather silly rule - but we can't change that anymore after more than 30 years...). This means that for all drivers who scored in WRC rallies, we need to know if they took part in one of the five ERC coefficient 4 rallies. For the Arctic Rally I have a full start list so that rally doesn't present a problem, but for the other four my information is not complete. Especially for the 1977 Tour de France I hardly know anything.

Can anyone help with more detailed information on the 1977 Rajd Polski, Rally San Martino di Castrozza, Tour de France Automobile or RACE Rallye de España?

Something else which would help is an official championship classification. Unfortunately the 1978 FIA yearbook went to press before the 1977 rally season was over and no final classification of the 1977 FIA Cup was published that year. Perhaps in the 1979 FIA yearbook?

Hi,

Regarding the RACE you can find here http://hemeroteca.elmundodeportivo.es/preview/1977/10/20/pagina-23/1411813/pdf.html some info about (some) RACE 77 starters...
Basically for top drivers, only Munari and Mouton were at the RACE in 77...

Regards Américo.

kabouter
18th December 2010, 14:48
Thank you for that link Américo.

By browsing the archives of El Mundo Deportivo I have managed to include a more extensive result of the RACE Rallye de España 1977 in my database, and list rally leaders and stage winners: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=636

There are still several first names missing, and I might have misspelled some names (El Mundo Deportivo wasn't that accurate when it came to spelling names...). Any corrections/additions are welcome.

And if there are any members of Spanish rally forums reading this, please feel free to post a link to the result there and ask for assistance in checking for mistakes or filling in gaps. I can't write in Spanish, but I manage to read it.

sednem
18th December 2010, 20:04
Janner Rally
Regards
Janusz

Thanks for the top 5... but I'm looking for (at least) top 10 in ERC (and others) rallyes, so here's what is missing in my DB:
Jänner Rallye 7th-10th
Galway Rally 7th-10th
Sachs Winter Rallye 6th-10th
ARBÖ Rally 6th-10th
Rallye de Lorraine 7th-10th
Donegal International Rally 6th-10th
Rally d'Antibes 6th-10th
ADAC Rally Hessen 6th-10th
Skoda Rally 6th-10th
AvD/STH Hunsruck Rally 6th-10th
Rally do Danúbio 6th-10th
International Rally Taurus 6th-10th
Volta à Madeira 6th-10th
Sachs Rally Baltic 6th-10th
Rallye du Vin 6th-10th
Rally Warswa 6th-10th
Rallye de la Châtaigne 8th-10th
Volta ao Algarve 6th-7th (Only 7 arrived...)
Also in 79, some names and co-drivers to fund...
Hankiralli
10. ??? Ylampaa (???)/??? ??? (???)
Rally di Sicilia
8. #38 "Apache" (ITA)/??? Cammarata (ITA)
Rallye Firestone
9. ??? Gomez (ESP)/Luís-M???. Andicoechea (ESP)
Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra
9. ??? Colard (FRA)/??? ??? (???)
10. Romaric Lescure (FRA)/??? Dussauge (FRA)
Welsh Rally
9. ??? Donald (???)/??? ??? (???)
Rallye de Lorraine
6. Francis Roussely (FRA)/??? ??? (???)
Rally Quattro Regioni
10. G???. Crucitti (ITA)/??? Ravera (ITA)
Rally del Ciocco
8. ??? Nico (ITA)/Giorgio Barban (ITA)
9. Roberto Roti (ITA)/??? ??? (???)
10. Franco Rabino (ITA)/??? ??? (???)
24 Horas de Ypres
7. ??? Eldiss (???)/??? ??? (???)
Rally Halkidikis
8. Selcuk Karamanoglu (TUR)/??? Alonzo (???)
9. P???. Valentis (???)/??? Potmanidis (???)
Rallye du Vin
4. ??? Reuche (CHE)/??? Junod (CHE)
Rally de Chipre
5. Dimi Mavropoulos (CYP)/??? Charalambous (CYP???)
6. ??? Okhu (SUN)/??? ??? (???)
7. Christos Kirmitsis (CYP)/??? ??? (???)
8. Shekhar Mehta (KEN)/Yvonne Mehta (KEN) (not sure about codriver)
9. Costas Theocharides (CYP)/??? ??? (???)
10. #??? Emmanuel Panayiotopoulos (GRC)/??? ??? (???)
ÖASC Rallye
9. ??? Loesch (???)/??? ??? (???)
10. Andreas Stigler (AUT)/???? Stigler (AUT)

And last, but not least, one remark regarding Madeira results for the 5th place (José Gonçalves/Miguel Oliveira) is a Portuguese team (not spanish)


Regards Américo.

Martin Liddle
19th December 2010, 12:42
Welsh Rally
9. ??? Donald (???)/??? ??? (???)


9 Jim Donald (???)/Derek Tucker (GB) Ford Escort RS1800

januszsz
20th December 2010, 14:11
Also in 79, some names and co-drivers to fund...
Hankiralli
10. ESA SILLANPAA (FIN) / SIMO KYLANPAA (FIN)

Rallye Firestone
9. ??? Gomez-PEREZ (ESP)/Luís-M???. Andicoechea (ESP)

Welsh Rally
9. JIM Donald (NZ)/DEREK TUCKER (GB)
Rallye de Lorraine
6. Francis Roussely (FRA)/??? DISS (???)

Rally del Ciocco
8. "NICO" (DOMENICO GROSOLI) (ITA)/Giorgio Barban (ITA)
9. Roberto Roti (ITA)/??? QUERZOLI (ITA)
10. Franco Rabino (ITA)/??? NERI (???)
24 Horas de Ypres
7. "Eldiss" (???)/"ROSSI" (???)
Rally Halkidikis
8. Selcuk Karamanoglu (TUR)/??? Alonzo (???)
9. PAVLOS Valentis (GR)/??? Potmanidis (GR)
Rallye du Vin
4. J-F. Reuche (CHE)/??? Junod (CHE)
Rally de Chipre
5. Dimi Mavropoulos (CYP)/??? Charalambous (CYP???)
6. HEIKI Okhu (SU)/TOOMAS DIENER (SU)
7. Christos Kirmitsis (CYP)/DAVE ADAMS (GB)
8. Shekhar Mehta (KEN)/Yvonne Mehta (KEN) (not sure about codriver) I HAVE YVONNE MEHTA
9. Costas Theocharides (CYP)/PETROS DEMETRIADES (CYP)
10. #??? Emmanuel Panayiotopoulos (GRC)/??? KORRES (GRC)
ÖASC Rallye
9. ??? Loesch (???)/??? LIENDL (???)
10. Andreas Stigler (AUT)/HELMUTH LUKARSCH (AUT)

Regards Américo.
Some blanks are filled.
Regards
Janusz

DIMI44
20th December 2010, 19:43
................................................
Rally Halkidikis
...............................................
9. Pavlos Valentis (GR) /E. Potmanidis (GR)
Regards Américo.

For co-driver I found only E.Nothing else.

januszsz
21st December 2010, 09:56
Thanks for the top 5... but I'm looking for (at least) top 10 in ERC (and others) rallyes, so here's what is missing in my DB:
Jänner Rallye 7th-10th
Galway Rally 7th-10th
Sachs Winter Rallye 6th-10th
ARBÖ Rally 6th-10th
Rallye de Lorraine 7th-10th
Donegal International Rally 6th-10th
Rally d'Antibes 6th-10th
ADAC Rally Hessen 6th-10th
Skoda Rally 6th-10th
AvD/STH Hunsruck Rally 6th-10th
Rally do Danúbio 6th-10th
International Rally Taurus 6th-10th
Volta à Madeira 6th-10th
Sachs Rally Baltic 6th-10th
Rallye du Vin 6th-10th
Rally Warswa 6th-10th
Rallye de la Châtaigne 8th-10th
Volta ao Algarve 6th-7th (Only 7 arrived...)
Regards Américo.

Jänner Rallye 7th-10th
07 Christian? Lietz A Stocker Ford Escort RS
08 Decker A Kolar A Volkswagen Golf GTI
09 Klaus-Joachim "Jochi" Kleint D Günter Wanger D Opel Kadett GT/E
10 Weinmesser Holzer Opel Kadett GT/E

Galway Rally 7th-10th
07 Paul Windsor GB Brian Goff GB Ford Escort RS1800
08 Simon Everett GB Bowie GB Ford Escort RS
09 Vincent Bonner Michael Bonner Chrysler Sunbeam
10 Dessie McCartney GB Law Chrysler Sunbeam

Sachs Winter Rallye 6th-10th
06 Reinhard Hainbach D Klaus Fabisch D Ford Escort RS1800
07 Klaus Fritzinger D Werner Kehl D Toyota Celica
08 Achim Warmbold D Henry Liddon GB Toyota Celica
09 Jens-Ole Kristiansen DK Hans Jensen DK Opel Ascona
10 Alfons Stock D Paul Schmuck D Volkswagen Golf GTI

ARBÖ Rally 6th-10th
06 Attila Ferjancz H Janos Tandari H Renault 5 Alpine
07 Osterer A Pabst A Porsche 911SC
08 Christian? Lietz A Stocker Ford Escort RS
09 Manfred Essig A Dieter Oberortner A Opel Kadett GT/E
10 John Peter Bittner A Polak A Opel Kadett GT/E

Rallye de Lorraine 7th-10th
07 Haxaire Bertolotti Simca Rallye 3
08 Granjean Ruer Opel Kadett GT/E
09 Vaucard F Arnould F Simca Rallye 3
10 Jean Belliard F Dequin F Renault 5 Alpine

Donegal International Rally 6th-10th
06 Vincent Bonner Michael Bonner Chrysler Avenger
07 Robin Lyons GB Seamus McCanny Chrysler Avenger
08 Sean Campbell Damien Campbell Ford Escort RS2000
09 Drew Gallacher GB David McHarg GB Ford Escort RS1800
10 James McDaid L. Duffy Ford Escort RS2000

Rally d'Antibes 6th-10th
06 Christian Gardavot F Claude Ferrato F Porsche 911SC
07 Paul Rouby F Jean-Louis Martin F Renault 5 Alpine
08 Collard F Chaudron F Opel Kadett GT/E
09 Francois Chatriot F Christian Gilbert - "Tilber" F Volkswagen Golf GTI
10 Pierre Sintzel F Michel Vincent F Volkswagen Golf GTI

ADAC Rally Hessen 6th-10th
06 Eberhard Kromm D Wolfgang Inhester D Ford Escort 1300
07 Rainer Gutzeit Jonnie Wellborn Ford Escort RS
08 John Peter Bittner A Polak A Opel Kadett GT/E
09 Dieter Angelmaier Gerhard Angelmaier Volkswagen Golf GTI
10 Hans Michael Simon Ernst Rohringer A Volkswagen Golf GTI

Skoda Rally 6th-10th
06 Morten Spiro DK Else Yde DK Opel Kadett GT/E
07 Bengt Lundström S Leif Andersson S Toyota Corolla
08 Haakan Svensson S Jan-Erik Andersson S Opel Ascona
09 Terje Braathen N Tone Braathen N Opel Kadett GT/E
10 Stig Arne Berg S Jakobson S Opel Kadett GT/E

AvD/STH Hunsruck Rally 6th-10th
06 Klaus Fritzinger D Mario Kraitschy D Toyota Celica
07 Holger Bohne D Peter Diekmann D Volkswagen Golf GTI
08 Josef "Sepp" Haider A Jörg Pattermann A Opel Kadett GT/E
09 Gerhard Thiry D Wolfgang Thiry D Ford Escort RS2000
10 Jörn Nikola D Heinz Liske D Ford Escort RS

Rally do Danúbio 6th-10th
06 Vello Yunpuu SU Arne Timusk SU Lada 1600
07 Eedo Raide SU Georg Valdek SU Lada 1600
08 Ilie Olteanu RO Ovidiu Scobai RO Dacia 1300
09 Rhodes GB Pease GB Ford Escort RS
10 Laszlo Kovacs H Tibor Dekany H Lada 1600

International Rally Taurus 6th-10th
06 Istvan? Felian H Erdelyi H Lada 1600
07 Osterer A Pabst A Porsche 911SC
08 Rezsö Kovacs H Laszlo Kiss H Lada 1300
09 Gyula Dudas H Gabor Doma H Lada 1200
10 Erwin Härtwich DDR Armin Willss DDR Wartburg 353W

Volta à Madeira 6th-10th
06 Holger Helle DK Age Sörensen DK Opel Ascona 2000
07 Guy Colsoul B Alain Lopez B Opel Kadett GT/E
08 "Aledi" E Geronimo Rodrigues E Chrysler Sunbeam
09 Antony Fourmachat F Thierry Grign F Opel Kadett GT/E
10 Hernani Roda P José Canario P Datsun 1200

Sachs Rally Baltic 6th-10th
06 Heinz-Walter Schewe D Merchel D Ford Escort RS
07 Dieter Günther D Erhard Ricken D Datsun 160J
08 Jan Glad DK Zachariassen DK Opel Kadett GT/E
09 Michael Werner D Egon Meurer D Ford Escort RS
10 Svanholt DK Svanholt DK Porsche 911

Rallye du Vin 6th-10th
06 Michel Savioz CH Coppey CH Opel Kadett GT/E
07 Herbert Besch CH Beatrice Besch CH Opel Kadett GT/E
08 Mooser CH Golay CH Porsche 911SC
09 Francois Perret CH Jacky Guinchard CH Opel Kadett GT/E
10 Jean-C. Guggisberg CH Fragniere CH Ford Escort RS

Rally de Varsovie or Warszawski 6th-10th
06 Jeremi Doria-Dernałowicz PL Jacek Lisicki PL Polski Fiat 125p 1500
07 Andrzej Radecki PL Krzysztof Burzyński PL Polski Fiat 125p 1500
08 Poul Daniel Weinrich DK Leo Pihl DK Opel Kadett GT/E
09 Jerzy Kobyliński PL Janusz Siniarski PL Polski Fiat 125p 1500
10 Ryszard Granica PL Jerzy Werner PL Polski Fiat 125p 1500
Rallye de la Châtaigne 8th-10th
08 Lagrosse F Chevarin F Porsche 911SC
09 Jacques Panciatici F Andreé Tabet F Volkswagen Golf GTI
10 Malbran F Benatier F Talbot Sunbeam

Volta ao Algarve 6th-7th (Only 7 arrived...)
06 "Ojuara" P Branco P Ford Escort RS2000
07 Abel de Melo P Augusto Teles P Ford Escort Sport
Regards
Janusz

Matthewrally87
21st December 2010, 10:27
Hi boys!!! I'm serching the European Rally Championship's calendar of the years 1980 - 1981 - 1982. Can someone help me?

Thanks so much!!!

cvhi
22nd December 2010, 18:54
European Rally Championship 1980

Janner
Boucles de Spa
Artic
Costa Brava
Galway
Swedish
Sachs Winter
Hankirally
Targa Florio
Costa Smeralda
Yu
Circuit d'Irlande
Saarland
Ile d'Elbe
Lucien Bianchi
Alpin
Zlatni Piassatzi
4 Régions
Lorraine
South Swedish
Hessen
Danube
Scottish
Antibes
Orense
Ciocco
Ypres
Skoda
Polish
CS
Hunsruck
Madeira
Warsaw
1000 Lakes
Halkidikis
Sachs Baltic
Manx
Tour De France
Cyprus
Arbo
Vin
OASC
Race
Algarve
San Marino
Catalogne

cvhi
22nd December 2010, 18:57
Hello,

For 1980 thats all, if someone have entry list about : Janner, Boucles de Spa, Galway, Sachs Winter, Hanki, Yu, Circuit d'Irlande, Saarland, Lucien Bianchi, Lorraine, South Swedish, Hessen, Danube, Scottish, Ciocco, Skoda, Warsaw, Halkidikis, Sachs Baltic, Cyprus, Arbo, Vin, OASC, Catalunya.

Thank you very much for your help
mlanders@orange.fr

Matthewrally87
22nd December 2010, 19:39
Thank you so much cvhi!!!!

sednem
23rd December 2010, 10:53
Hi boys!!! I'm serching the European Rally Championship's calendar of the years 1980 - 1981 - 1982. Can someone help me?

Thanks so much!!!

Hi Matthew,

here's what I have for 1980...
Missing the Danube rally date, probably in the 1st or second weekend of june...

1. (Coef: 2) 11/01 a 13/01 : 11º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 2) 01/02 a 03/02 : 23º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
3. (Coef: 3) 02/02 a 03/02 : 15º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
4. (Coef: 4) 08/02 a 10/02 : 28º Rally Costa Brava (ESP)
5. (Coef: 1) 09/02 a 10/02 : 10º Galway Rally (IRL)
6. (Coef: 4) 15/02 a 17/02 : 30° Rally Internacional da Suécia (SWE)
7. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 23/02 : ??º Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
8. (Coef: 2) 29/02 a 02/03 : 25º Hankiralli (FIN)
9. (Coef: 2) 07/03 a 09/03 : 9º Rally di Sicilia/64º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
10. (Coef: 2) 27/03 a 28/03 : 3° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
11. (Coef: 1) 28/03 a 30/03 : 14º YU Rally (YUG)
12. (Coef: 2) 05/04 a 08/04 : 41º Benson & Hedges Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
13. (Coef: 1) 12/04 a 13/04 : 10º ADAC Saarland Rally (DEU)
14. (Coef: 3) 18/04 a 19/04 : 13° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
15. (Coef: 2) 26/04 a 27/04 : 11º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
16. (Coef: 2) 02/05 a 04/05 : 23º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
17. (Coef: 3) 10/05 a 12/05 : 11º Rallye das Areias Douradas (BGR)
18. (Coef: 4) 15/05 a 17/05 : 10º Rally Quattro Regioni (ITA)
19. (Coef: 2) 17/05 a 18/05 : 26º Rallye de Lorraine (FRA)
20. (Coef: 1) 24/05 a 25/05 : 5º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE)
21. (Coef: 2) 06/06 a 07/06 : 29º ADAC Rally Hessen-Rally Deutschland (DEU)
22. (Coef: 4) 07/06 a 10/06 : 35º Esso-Lombard RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC)
23. (Coef: 2) ??/06 a ??/06 : 15º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
24. (Coef: 3) 20/06 a 21/06 : 15° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
25. (Coef: 1) 21/06 a 22/06 : 13º Rally de Orense (ESP)
26. (Coef: 4) 27/06 a 28/06 : 16º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
27. (Coef: 2) 27/06 a 28/06 : 33° Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA)
28. (Coef: 4) 11/07 a 13/07 : 40° Rali da Polónia (POL)
29. (Coef: 1) 11/07 a 12/07 : 7º Skoda Rally (CSK)
30. (Coef: 2) 18/07 a 20/07 : 13º Rally CS (ESP)
31. (Coef: 3) 08/08 a 10/08 : ??º Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
32. (Coef: 2) 16/08 a 17/08 : 21ª Volta à Madeira (PRT)
33. (Coef: 2) 22/08 a 23/08 : 18º Rally Warswa - Polski Fiat (POL)
34. (Coef: 4) 29/08 a 31/08 : 30° Rally dos 1000 Lagos (FIN)
35. (Coef: 3) 02/09 a 04/09 : 5° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
36. (Coef: 1) 05/09 a 07/09 : 17º Sachs Rally Baltic (DEU)
37. (Coef: 1) 11/09 a 13/09 : 18º Rally Internacional Ilha de Man (GBR)
38. (Coef: 4) 17/09 a 21/09 : 39º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
39. (Coef: 3) 27/09 a 28/09 : 8º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
40. (Coef: 1) 27/09 a 28/09 : 24º ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
41. (Coef: 1) 04/10 a 05/10 : 21º Rallye du Vin (CHE)
42. (Coef: 1) 11/10 a 12/10 : 23º ÖASC Rallye (AUT)
43. (Coef: 3) 17/10 a 19/10 : 28º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España (ESP)
44. (Coef: 2) 30/10 a 02/11 : 10º Rali Urbibel Algarve (PRT)
45. (Coef: 1) 08/11 a 09/11 : 8° Rally di San Marino (SMR)
46. (Coef: 1) 22/11 a 23/11 : 16° Rallye Cataluña (ESP)

Regards Américo

sednem
23rd December 2010, 16:50
Thanks for the 79 results Janusz,

I have some remarks/questions regarding your results:
Galway: you give Paul Windsor in 7th place... I had it allready but in 6th... who is 6th and 7th then???
Lorraine : 8th place François Grandjean (FRA)/Pascal Ruer (FRA)
Donegal: In my DB I have Vincent & Richard Bonner in several results... here you give Vincent & Michael Bonner, is there a "new" Bonner, or is it the "same"???
Chataigne: 8th place must be: Bernard Lagorsse/G. Chevarin... and for 10th I think that's Philippe Malbran/Philippe Benatier wich usually raced together...
Algarve: Ojuara's codriver seems to be Castelo Branco.
and Finally, for 79, I'm still missing Saarland Rally 7th and 8th places... if you have this...

Regards Américo

januszsz
23rd December 2010, 20:48
Thanks for the 79 results Janusz,

I have some remarks/questions regarding your results:
Galway: you give Paul Windsor in 7th place... I had it allready but in 6th... who is 6th and 7th then???
Lorraine : 8th place François Grandjean (FRA)/Pascal Ruer (FRA)
Donegal: In my DB I have Vincent & Richard Bonner in several results... here you give Vincent & Michael Bonner, is there a "new" Bonner, or is it the "same"???
Chataigne: 8th place must be: Bernard Lagorsse/G. Chevarin... and for 10th I think that's Philippe Malbran/Philippe Benatier wich usually raced together...
Algarve: Ojuara's codriver seems to be Castelo Branco.
and Finally, for 79, I'm still missing Saarland Rally 7th and 8th places... if you have this...

Regards Américo
Hi Americo,
Thank you for some corrections and missing first names.
Galway I have:
6. Trevor Cathers/Seamus McCanny Chrysler Avenger
7. Paul Windsor/Brian Goff -GB- Escort RS1800
Donegal:
Vincent and Michael Bonner I took from the book "The Donegal experience" by Ivan Fuery
Saarland:
7. Jurgen Ebenhoh/Oschner-D-911SC
8. Holger Soltwedel/Dietmar Muller-D-Escort RS

Regards and Merry Christmas to all Forumers!
Janusz

Steve Boyd
23rd December 2010, 21:26
Hi Americo,
...
Donegal:
Vincent and Michael Bonner I took from the book "The Donegal experience" by Ivan Fuery
...
Janusz
"25 Years of the Manx Rally" by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton also has Vincent & Michael Bonner on the 1979 Manx Rally (8th O/A in a Talbot Sunbeam)

januszsz
24th December 2010, 07:44
33. (Coef: 2) 22/08 a 23/08 : 18º Rally Warswa - Polski Fiat (POL)


Name of this rally becomes from from the name of the base-town Warszawa (not Warswa), so you can name it Rally Warszawa or Warsaw Rally, Rallye de Varsovie or so... The original name was: "Międzynarodowy Rajd Warszawski Polskiego Fiata" what means The International Warsaw Rally of Polski Fiat. That addition "Polski Fiat" was because it was sponsored by FSO - producer of Polski Fiats.
Regards
Janusz

sednem
24th December 2010, 12:19
Hi Americo,
Thank you for some corrections and missing first names.
Galway I have:
6. Trevor Cathers/Seamus McCanny Chrysler Avenger
7. Paul Windsor/Brian Goff -GB- Escort RS1800
Donegal:
Vincent and Michael Bonner I took from the book "The Donegal experience" by Ivan Fuery
Saarland:
7. Jurgen Ebenhoh/Oschner-D-911SC
8. Holger Soltwedel/Dietmar Muller-D-Escort RS

Regards and Merry Christmas to all Forumers!
Janusz

Thanks Janusz,

For 1979 let's clarify Galway's results...
I Read in a previous post (#1033):
Galway
2nd Mick O’Connell/Anne O’Connell Ford Escort
3rd Noel Smith/ Ian Turkington Porsche Carrera
4th Alan Carter/ Brendan Neville Ford Escort RS2000
5th Trevor Cathers/ Seamus McCanny Avenger

This doesn't fit with your 6th place: Trevor Cathers :( ...
I assume that Coleman has been requalified and he's the winner...
So here's what I have regarding this forum results and "El Mundo deportivo" (http://hemeroteca.elmundodeportivo.es/preview/1979/02/14/pagina-27/1046839/pdf.html)

1. #??? Billy Coleman (IRL)/Frank O'Donoghue (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
2. #??? Mike O'Connell (IRL)/Anne O'Connell (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
3. #??? Noel Smith (GBR)/Ian Turkington (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
4. #??? Brian Nelson (IRL)/Rodney Cole (IRL) - Ford Escort RS -
5. #??? Alan Carter (NZL)/Brendan Neville (NZL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
6. #??? Trevor Cathers (GBR)/Seamus McCanny (GBR) - Chrysler Avenger -
7. #??? Paul Windsor (GBR)/Brian Goff (GBR) - Ford Escort RS -
8. #??? Simon Everett (GBR)/Jim? Bowie (GBR) - Ford Escort RS -
9. #??? Vincent Bonner (GBR)/Michael Bonner (GBR) - Chrysler Sunbeam -
10. #??? Dessie McCartney (IRL)/Bertie Law (GBR) - Chrysler Sunbeam

Is this right???

Thanks everibody and a merry chrithmas!
Américo.

pettersolberg29
24th December 2010, 18:03
Hi.
Does anyone know the year this photo was taken? It is of M.Gatsonides in the Coupe des Alpes/Alpine Rally which he won.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/pettersolberg29/CoupedesAlpes-1st.jpg

januszsz
25th December 2010, 09:59
Thanks Janusz,

For 1979 let's clarify Galway's results...
I Read in a previous post (#1033):
Galway
2nd Mick O’Connell/Anne O’Connell Ford Escort
3rd Noel Smith/ Ian Turkington Porsche Carrera
4th Alan Carter/ Brendan Neville Ford Escort RS2000
5th Trevor Cathers/ Seamus McCanny Avenger

This doesn't fit with your 6th place: Trevor Cathers :( ...
I assume that Coleman has been requalified and he's the winner...
So here's what I have regarding this forum results and "El Mundo deportivo" (http://hemeroteca.elmundodeportivo.es/preview/1979/02/14/pagina-27/1046839/pdf.html)

1. #??? Billy Coleman (IRL)/Frank O'Donoghue (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
2. #??? Mike O'Connell (IRL)/Anne O'Connell (IRL) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
3. #??? Noel Smith (GBR)/Ian Turkington (GBR) - Porsche 911 Carrera -
4. #??? Brian Nelson (IRL)/Rodney Cole (IRL) - Ford Escort RS -
5. #??? Alan Carter (NZL)/Brendan Neville (NZL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
6. #??? Trevor Cathers (GBR)/Seamus McCanny (GBR) - Chrysler Avenger -
7. #??? Paul Windsor (GBR)/Brian Goff (GBR) - Ford Escort RS -
8. #??? Simon Everett (GBR)/Jim? Bowie (GBR) - Ford Escort RS -
9. #??? Vincent Bonner (GBR)/Michael Bonner (GBR) - Chrysler Sunbeam -
10. #??? Dessie McCartney (IRL)/Bertie Law (GBR) - Chrysler Sunbeam

Is this right???

Thanks everibody and a merry chrithmas!
Américo.
Hi Americo,
Yes, I have the same result as you showed here above (1st-10th). I am sorry I sent a wrong info while showing the top 5 without Brian Nelson...
Regards
Janusz

januszsz
25th December 2010, 10:53
Hi.
Does anyone know the year this photo was taken? It is of M.Gatsonides in the Coupe des Alpes/Alpine Rally which he won.

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn158/pettersolberg29/CoupedesAlpes-1st.jpg

This is a picture of Maurice Gatsonides/Ed Pennybacker Triumph TR3 taken on Coupe des Alpes Rally 1956. "Gatso" won the 1600-2000ccm class and was 8th overall.
Regards
Janusz

pettersolberg29
25th December 2010, 14:55
Cheers Janusz for your help!

cvhi
27th December 2010, 14:42
Somebody pourait is it to say to me the name of the pilots(drivers) who participated in the rally piancavallo on 1998 with the numero N°14, 17, 34, 38, 47, 49, 52, 121 and 125

Thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr

cvhi
28th December 2010, 17:04
Hello,

Perhaps somebody can help me, i search name and cars on the entry list 24 Heures Yprès 1995, numbers N°42 43 45 75 91 96 106 112 121 131 133 141.

thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr

SJWinter
30th December 2010, 10:02
Another Rover mystery rally entry that I need the help of this excellent forum in solving!...

In 1985 Ian 'Del' Lines of Weston-Super-Mare, England bought the complete Austin Rover Middle East Rally Team which comprised three Group 2 Rover Vitesse, and enough spares to build a further four cars!

One car was registered A377 VUK and debuted in 1985 on an unknown rally in Belgium driven by Ruben Borjesson - who was apparently a member of the King of Sweden’s bodyguard!

The Rover was lying first in the event when the battery exploded due to the ‘Pavé’ roads in Belgium.

If anybody knows what event this was on, the Entry Nº, or any photos of this car that would fill an important gap in my history files. Many thanks!

A377VUK was indeed entered by Ruben Borjesson and Joe Hawkins on the 1985 Liege International Police Rally. They were seeded 1 having won the event on numerous occasions mostly in a Volvo 242. Not entirely sure what caused their demise but it was their last entry in this rally. Hope this helps you!

sednem
30th December 2010, 13:07
First of all, thaks for those who helped me for the 79 season...
Now, I've just finished entering 1980 ERC on my DB...
I have some missing results:
Galway Rally 8-10
Hessen-Rally Deutschland 6-10
Rally do Danúbio 3-10
Skoda Rally 6-10
Volta à Madeira 7-10
Varsóvia 5-10
Halkidikis 8-10
Sachs Rally Baltic 10th
Manx 4-10
Algarve 6-10
San Marino 9-10
And a lot of codrivers/first names missing...
Jänner Rallye
7. Peter Mattig (DEU)/??? Gumpert (???) - Opel Ascona - + 16:16
9. ??? Heel (???)/??? Raft (???) - Ford Escort RS - + 18:31
10. ??? Leitner (AUT)/??? Stürzlinger (AUT) - Volkswagen 1302 - + 26:46
Artic Rally
4. Mikaël Sundström (FIN)/??? Hjelm (FIN) - Ford Escort RS - + 14:25
Galway Rally
3. ??? Risher (???)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS -
Sachs Winter Rallye
7. Gerhard Thiry (DEU)/??? Strobel (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 2H56:58
10. Holger Soltwedel (DEU)/??? Blume (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 2H59:16
Hankiralli
2. Kyösti Hämäläinen (FIN)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS1800 - + 4:00
3. Markku Alén (FIN)/ ???Ilkka Kivimäki (FIN) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 7:00
4. Lasse Lampi (FIN)/ ???Pentti Kuukkala (FIN) - Ford Escort RS1800 - +14:00
5. Erkki Pitkänen (FIN)/??? ??? (???) - Datsun - +25:00
6. ??? Jotila (???)/??? ??? (???) - Talbot Avenger - +30:00
7. Heikki Enomaa (FIN)/ ???Jyrki Ahava (FIN) - Talbot Sunbeam Ti - +30:38
8. ??? Pikkihookana (FIN)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS - +30:44
9. Antero Laine (FIN)/??? ??? (???) - Fiat Ritmo 75 Abarth -
10. ??? Hohkanen (FIN)/??? ??? (???) - Saab 96 V4 -
Rally di Sicilia/Targa Fiorio
6. #76 Andrea Zanussi (ITA)/??? Castagnara (ITA) - Ford Escort RS -
7. #25 ''Amphicar'' (ITA)/??? Schermi (ITA) - Opel Ascona SR -
10. #48 ''Apache'' (ITA)/??? Cammarata (ITA) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus -
Circuit of Ireland
10. #??? J. McDonald (GBR)/L. Murphy (GBR) - Talbot Sunbeam Ti - 515.51 pts
Saarland Rally
2. #??? Holger Soltwedel (DEU)/??? Blume (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 10882 sec
10. #??? Gerhard Thiry (DEU)/??? Strobel (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 11539 sec
Isola d'Elba
8. Pier Luigi Zanetti (ITA)/??? Corà (ITA) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
Criterium Lucien Bianchi
6. P???. de Schaetzen (BEL)/M???. Cranmix (BEL) - Ford Escort RS2000 - +24:17
8. Guy Hendrickx (BEL)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS - +25:28
Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra
7. Dominique de Meyer (FRA)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 6H38:35
8. Joseph Grindou (FRA)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche 911 - 6H45:00
9. ''Tchine'' (MCO)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona - 6H45:21
10. Paul Rouby (FRA)/??? ??? (???) - Renault 5 Alpine - 6H47:24
Zlatni Piassatzi
7. #??? Stojan Kolev (BGR)/??? Popov (BGR) - Renault 5 Alpine -
Quattro Regioni
2. Fabrizio Tabaton (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 1:21
4. Dario Cerrato (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona 400 - + 3:24
5. Tonino Tognana (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 5:15
6. Lucky (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 5:36
8. Paolo Pescarin (ITA)/G????. Alessandrini (ITA) - Opel Ascona - + 24:42
10. Andrea Zanussi (ITA)/??? Castagnara (ITA) - Ford Escort RS - + 30:28
Lorraine
7. Claude Dormoy (FRA)/J????. Bellefleur (???) - Porsche 911 SC - 4H12:07
Scottish Rally
5. Drew Gallacher (GBR)/??? ??? (???) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS - 4H38:02
6. Andrew Cowan (GBR)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 4H44:07
7. Jimmy McRae (GBR)/??? ??? (???) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS - 4H44:57
8. Donald Heggie (GBR)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 4H47:26
9. Roger Clark (GBR)/??? ??? (???) - Triumph TR8 - 4H48:08
DNF Malcolm Wilson (GBR)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
Antibes
6. Alain Viano (FRA)/??? Barthelat (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 7H19:57
Orense
5. #??? ??? Gonzalvez (ESP)/??? Pena (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - 2H43:42
7. #??? ??? Roserd (ESP)/??? Diaz (ESP) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 2H53:57
8. #??? Juan Luis Paradela (ESP)/??? Rogelio (ESP) - Seat 124/1800 - 2H55:16
9. #??? José Luis Vilanova (ESP)/??? Vázquez (ESP) - Renault 5 Alpine - 3H00:15
DNF #??? Beny Fernández (ESP)/??? ??? (???) - ??????
Ypres
7. #56 Yvan Viaene (BEL)/??? De Corte (BEL) - Opel Kadett GT/E -
9. #43 P????. de Schaetzen (BEL)/??? Dirrix (BEL) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
DNF #6 Billy Coleman (IRL)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS1800 -
DNF #15 Holger Bohne (DEU)/??? ??? (???) - Mercedes 450 SLC 5.0 -
DNF #19 Achim Warmbold (DEU)/??? ??? (???) - Toyota Celica -
DNF #20 Derek Boyd (IRL)/??? ??? (???) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus -
DNF #29 "Chavan" (BEL)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche 911 SC -
Hunsrück Rally
9. ??? Kristiansen (???)/??? Larsen (???) - ??????? -
10. Gerhard Thiry (DEU)/??? Strobel (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 -
Madeira
4. #??? Werner Schweizer (DEU)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 29:53
5. #??? Gaby Goudeseune (BEL)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 32:46
6. #??? Lars Sundling (NOR)/??? ??? (???) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS - + 39:47
Rajd Warszawski
1. #??? Bernard Béguin (FRA)/Jean-Jacques Lenne (FRA) - Porsche 911 SC -
2. #??? Holger Bohne (DEU)/??? ??? (???) - Mercedes 450 SLC 5.0 -
3. #??? Blazej Krupa (POL)/??? ??? (???) - Renault 5 Alpine -
4. #??? Didi (BEL)/??? ??? (???) - Fiat 131 Abarth -
DNF#??? Antonio Zanini (ESP)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche 911 SC -
Sachs Baltic
6. #??? Morten Spiro (DNK)/Else Yde (DNK) - ????????? -
7. #??? Gustl Brusch (DEU)/??? Schaler (DEU) - Opel Ascona - 10122 sec
8. #??? Holger Soltwedel (DEU)/??? Blume (DEU) - ???????? -
Chipre
4. #??? Vahan Terzian (CYP)/??? Andreou (CYP) - Mitsubishi Colt - 598.30 pts
6. #??? Christos Kirmitsis (CYP)/??? Yiapanas (CYP) - Peugeot 104 ZS - 656.06 pts
9. #??? ??? Karalis (CYP)/??? Hadjisavvas (CYP) - Polski Fiat - 713.01 pts
10. #??? ??? Panayides (CYP)/A. Stylianou (CYP) - Subaru GL - 730.03 pts
ARBÖ Rally
6. #??? Andreas Karasek (AUT)/??? Decilia (???) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 20:18
8. #??? ??? Unterbuchberger (DEU)/??? Zeilberger (DEU) - Opel Ascona - + 24:10
9. #??? Carlo??? Tratter (???)/??? Tratter (???) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 28:58
Vin
2. #??? Roger Krattiger (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Fiat 131 - 258.48
3. #??? Eric Chapuis (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche 911 SC - 260.55
4. #??? Michel Savioz (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona - 264.43
5. #??? ??? Caverzasio (???)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche - 264.43
6. #??? ??? Carron (???)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona - 265.07
7. #??? Svatopluk Kvaizar (CSK)/Jiri Kotek (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 265.10 Is this Kvaisar (doesn't show in ERC final standings...)
8. #??? Willy Bregnard (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche - 265.42
10. #??? Philippe Roux (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Renault 5 Turbo - 268.11
Algarve
4. #??? Francisco Romãozinho (PRT)/??? ??? (???) - Citroen Visa - + 20:06
5. #??? Holger Helle (DNK)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona - + 32:08
San Marino
2. #??? Tony (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona 400 - + 0:04
3. #??? Maurizio Verini (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV turbo - + 2:47
4. #??? Tonino Tognana (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 3:11
5. #??? Mauro Pregliasco (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV turbo - + 6:30
6. #??? Federico Ormezzano (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - + 8:12
7. #??? Angelo Presotto (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS1800 - + 11:08
8. #??? Roberto Liviero (ITA)/??? ??? (???) - Ferrari 308GTB - + 11:41
Catalunya
8. #??? Mariano Lacasa (ESP)/??? Adrián (ESP) - Opel Ascona - + 37:25
10. #??? José-Maria Segura (ESP)/??? Bofill (ESP) - Seat 124/1800 - + 56:23

Thanks a lot and an excellent new year!
Américo Mendes.

januszsz
30th December 2010, 14:54
First of all, thaks for those who helped me for the 79 season...
Now, I've just finished entering 1980 ERC on my DB...
I have some missing results:
Galway Rally 8-10 SEE BELOW
Hessen-Rally Deutschland 6-10
06 Eberhard Kromm D Matthias Feltz D Ford Escort 1300 18246
07 Friedhelm Kissel D Alfons? Stock D Volkswagen Golf GTI 18292
08 Peter Brink D Nieborg D Mercedes-Benz 450 SLC 18591
09 Krämer D Spindeler D BMW 1602 18616
10 Stasys Brundza SU Anatoli Brum SU Lada 1600 2 18618

Rally do Danúbio 3-10
03 Attila Ferjancz H Janos Tandari H Renault 5 Alpine 2 03:56:12
04 Vaclav Blahna CS Pavel Schovanek CS Skoda 130RS 2 03:58:04
05 Svatopluk Kvaizar CS Jiri Kotek CS Skoda 130RS 2 03:58:47
06 Vaclav Pech CS Oldrich Gottfried CS Skoda 130RS 2 04:02:27
07 Ludovic Balint RO Mircea Panaite RO Dacia 1300 04:06:42
08 Vello Yunpuu SU Arne Timusk SU Lada 1600 2 04:11:43
09 Georgi Serafimov BG Guergov BG Lada 1600 2 04:16:32
10 Eedo Raide SU Georg Valdek SU Lada 1600 2 04:16:51

Skoda Rally 6-10
06 Björn Sjunning S Hans Andersson S Opel Kadett GT/E 2 04:37:35
07 Pavel Valousek CS Karel Jiratko CS Skoda 130RS 2 04:37:55
08 Vaclav Pech CS Oldrich Gottfried CS Skoda 130RS 2 04:38:12
09 Attila Ferjancz H Janos Tandari H Renault 5 Alpine 2 04:41:27
10 Patrick de Schaetzen B "Alain Geron" B Ford Escort RS2000 1 04:50:47

Volta à Madeira 7-10
07 Carlos J. Reis P Oscar Fernandes P Alpine-Renault A110 3 04:27:55
08 Emanuel Pereira P F. Castro P Ford Escort RS2000 1 04:30:51
09 Hernani Roda P C. de Sousa P Datsun 1200 1 04:31:46
10 Georges Houel MC R. Luis Renault 30TS 1 04:44:36

Varsóvia 5-10
05 Willie Rutherford GB Bryan Harris GB Mazda 626 2 9081
06 Marian Bublewicz PL Marek Pawłowski PL Opel Kadett GT/E 2 9144
07 Maciej Stawowiak PL Ryszard Żyszkowski PL Polonez 2000 2 9330
08 Vlastimil Havel CS Jan Soukup CS Skoda 130RS 2 9447
09 Andrzej Koper PL Włodzimierz Krzemiński PL Renault 5 Alpine 2 9501
10 Adam Polak PL Zbigniew Kabulski PL Polonez 2000 2 9660

Halkidikis 8-10
08 "Carlo" GR Komninos GR Renault 5 TS
09 Manolis Halivelakis GR Dimitris Petropoulos GR Toyota Corolla
10 "Leonidas" GR Andreas Arkentis GR Renault 5 Alpine

Sachs Rally Baltic 10th
10 Gerhard Thiry D Enrico Strobel D Ford Escort RS2000

Manx 4-10
04 Dessie McCartney GB Terry Harryman GB Vauxhall Chevette 2300HSR 4
05 Andy Dawson GB Kevin Gormley GB Lancia Stratos HF 4
06 Anders Kulläng S Bruno Berglund S Opel Ascona 400 4
07 Terry Kaby GB Tony McMahon GB Vauxhall Chevette 2300HS 4
08 John Weatherley GB Dave West GB Talbot Sunbeam Lotus 2
09 Alan Carter NZ Ian Grindrod GB Toyota Celica 4
10 Willie Rutherford GB Brian Harris GB Mazda 626 2

Algarve 6-10
06 Werner Schweizer A Thomas Dartsch A Opel Kadett GT/E
07 Alvaro Parente P Francisco Lavrador P Ford Escort RS
08 Orlando Reis P José Conde P Ford Escort RS
09 Fernando Simoes P Campos P Opel Kadett GT/E
10 Rui Lages P Abel Santos P Vauxhall Chevette 2300HS

San Marino 9-10
09 Massimo Biasion I Tiziano Siviero I Opel Ascona
10 Bruno Bentivogli RSM Sante Valbonetti Arcangeli I Ford Escort RS2000

And a lot of codrivers/first names missing...
Jänner Rallye
7. Peter Mattig (DEU)/ROLAND Gumpert (???) - Opel Ascona - + 16:16

Galway Rally
3. ??? Risher (???)/??? ??? (???) - Ford Escort RS -
I HAVE:
01 Jimmy McRae GB Frank Main GB Vauxhall Chevette 2300HS
02 Gerry Buckley IRL John Caplice IRL Ford Escort RS1800
03 Ernest Kidney GB Frank/Mark? O'Donoghue IRL Ford Escort RS1800
04 Bertie Fisher IRL Austin Fraser IRL Ford Escort RS1800
05 Sean Campbell Todd Ford Escort RS2000
06 Robin Lyons GB Seamus McCanny Talbot Sunbeam TI
07 Dessie McCartney GB Peter Scott Talbot Sunbeam TI
08 Austin McHale IRL McGee IRL Ford Escort RS
09 John Price GB Wylie GB Porsche 911SC
10 Donald Keating IRL Condon Ford Escort RS

Sachs Winter Rallye
7. Gerhard Thiry (DEU)/ENRICO Strobel (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 2H56:58
10. Holger Soltwedel (DEU)/GISELA? Blume (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 2H59:16
Hankiralli
2. Kyösti Hämäläinen (FIN)/MARTTI PUTKONEN (FIN) - Ford Escort RS1800 - + 4:00
3. Markku Alén (FIN)/ Ilkka Kivimäki (FIN) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 7:00
4. Lasse Lampi (FIN)/ Pentti Kuukkala (FIN) - Ford Escort RS1800 - +14:00
5. Erkki Pitkänen (FIN)/JUHANI PAALAMA (FIN) - Datsun 160J - +25:00
6. HARRI Uotila (FIN)/OSSI LEHTONEN (FIN) - Talbot Avenger - +30:00
7. Heikki Enomaa (FIN)/ Jyrki Ahava (FIN) - Talbot Sunbeam Ti - +30:38
8. KARI PikkUhookana (FIN)/TOM LINDQVIST (FIN) - Ford Escort RS - +30:44
9. Antero Laine (FIN)/JAAKKO MARKKULA (FIN) - Fiat Ritmo 75 Abarth -
10. PEKKA HoKkanen (FIN)/JUHANI TAMMINEN (FIN) - Saab 96 V4 -

Saarland Rally
2. #??? Holger Soltwedel (DEU)/GISELA? Blume (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 10882 sec
10. #??? Gerhard Thiry (DEU)/ENRICO Strobel (DEU) - Ford Escort RS - 11539 sec

Criterium Lucien Bianchi
6. PATRICK de Schaetzen (BEL)/M???. Cranmix (BEL) - Ford Escort RS2000 - +24:17
8. Guy Hendrickx (BEL)/EDDY BORREMANS (BEL) - Ford Escort RS - +25:28

Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra
7. Dominique de Meyer (FRA)/J. BOLLA (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 6H38:35
8. Joseph Grindou (FRA)/GALLI (FRA) - Porsche 911 - 6H45:00
9. ''Tchine'' (MCO)/FREDDY DELORME (FRA) - Opel Ascona - 6H45:21
10. Paul Rouby (FRA)/ALAIN GARCON (FRA) - Renault 5 Alpine - 6H47:24

Zlatni Piassatzi
7. #??? Stojan Kolev (BGR)/BOYAN Popov (BGR) - Renault 5 Alpine -

Quattro Regioni
2. Fabrizio Tabaton (ITA)/EMILIO RADAELLI (ITA) - Lancia Stratos HF - + 1:21
4. Dario Cerrato (ITA)/LUCIANO GUIZZARDI (ITA) - Opel Ascona 400 - + 3:24
5. Tonino Tognana (ITA)/SERGIO CRESTO (USA) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 5:15
6. Lucky (ITA)/FABRIZIA PONS (ITA) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 5:36
10. Andrea Zanussi (ITA)/??? Castagnara (ITA) - Ford Escort RS - + 30:28 - I HAVE LUIGI PIROLLO

Scottish Rally
5. Drew Gallacher (GBR)/EIRES (GBR) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS - 4H38:02
6. Andrew Cowan (GBR)/JOHNSTONE SYER (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 4H44:07
7. Jimmy McRae (GBR)/MIKE NICHOLSON (GBR) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS - 4H44:57
8. Donald Heggie (GBR)/LIVINGSTONE (GBR) - Ford Escort RS1800 - 4H47:26
9. Roger Clark (GBR)/JIM PORTER (GBR) - Triumph TR8 - 4H48:08

Orense
5. #??? JOSE GonzalveS (POR)/??? Pena (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - 2H43:42 I HAVE JOAQUIM BESSA (POR)
7. #??? ??? Roserd (ESP) I HAVE ROSENDO/??? Diaz (ESP) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 2H53:57

Hunsrück Rally
9. JENS OLE Kristiansen (???)/??? Larsen (???) - OPEL ASCONA 400
10. Gerhard Thiry (DEU)/ENRICO Strobel (DEU) - Ford Escort RS2000 -

Madeira
4. #??? Werner Schweizer (DEU)/THOMAS DARTSCH (AUT) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 29:53
5. #??? Gaby GoudeZeune (BEL)/SERGE MESSINE (???) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 32:46 I HAVE ASCONA 2000i
6. #??? Lars Sundling (NOR)/TOM MONSEN (NOR) - Vauxhall Chevette 2300 HS - + 39:47

Rajd Warszawski
1. #2 Bernard Béguin (FRA)/Jean-Jacques Lenne (FRA) - Porsche 911 SC -
2. #3 Holger Bohne (DEU)/PETER DIEKMANN (DEU) - Mercedes 500 SLC 5.0 -
3. #4 Blazej Krupa (POL)/PIOTR MYSTKOWSKI (POL) - Renault 5 Alpine -
4. #5 Didi (BEL)/WILLY PLAS (BEL) - Fiat 131 Abarth -
DNF#1 Antonio Zanini (ESP)/N. VIDAL (ESP) - Porsche 911 SC - ENGINE MOUNTING

Sachs Baltic
6. #??? Morten Spiro (DNK)/Else Yde (DNK) - OPEL ASCONA
7. #??? Gustl Brusch (DEU)/??? Schaler (DEU) - Opel Ascona - 10122 sec
8. #??? Holger Soltwedel (DEU)/GISELA? Blume (DEU) - FORD ESCORT RS -

Chipre
6. #??? Christos Kirmitsis (CYP)/ANDREAS Yiapanas (CYP) - Peugeot 104 ZS - 656.06 pts
9. #??? ??? Karalis (CYP)/??? Hadjisavvas (CYP) - Polski Fiat 125p - 713.01 pts

ARBÖ Rally
6. #??? Andreas Karasek (AUT)/G. De Cilia (AUT) - Opel Kadett GT/E - + 20:18

Vin
2. #??? Roger Krattiger (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Fiat 131 - 258.48
3. #??? Eric Chapuis (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche 911 SC - 260.55
4. #??? Michel Savioz (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona - 264.43
5. #??? ??? Caverzasio (???)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche - 264.43
6. #??? ??? Carron (???)/??? ??? (???) - Opel Ascona - 265.07
7. #??? Svatopluk Kvaizar (CSK)/Jiri Kotek (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 265.10 Is this Kvaisar (doesn't show in ERC final standings...)
8. #??? Willy Bregnard (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Porsche - 265.42
10. #??? Philippe Roux (CHE)/??? ??? (???) - Renault 5 Turbo - 268.11
I HAVE:
01 Per Eklund S Hans-Erik Sylvan S Toyota Celica 05:02:03
02 Roger Krattiger CH Paola Ferrari CH Fiat 131 Abarth 4 05:08:46
03 Willy Bregnard CH Jean-F Bühler CH Porsche 911SC 05:14:23
04 Angelo Caverzazio CH Chantal Galli CH Porsche 911SC 05:14:29
05 Michel Savioz CH Philippe Schupbach CH Opel Kadett GT/E 05:15:40
06 Chris Carron CH Jean-P. Läderach CH Opel Ascona 400 4 05:15:47
07 Svatopluk Kvaizar CS Jiri Kotek CS Skoda 130RS 2 05:16:16
08 Eric D. Chapuis CH Edy Bernasconi CH Porsche 911SC 05:17:29
09 Philippe Roux CH Mugnier CH Renault 5 Turbo 4 05:17:44
10 Jiri Sedivy CS Jiri Janecek CS Skoda 130RS 2 05:22:09

Algarve
4. #??? Francisco Romãozinho (PRT)/LUIS ALEGRIA (PRT) - Citroen Visa - + 20:06
5. #??? Holger Helle (DNK)/OLE HANSEN (DNK) - Opel Ascona - + 32:08

San Marino
2. #??? Tony (ITA)/"RUDY" (ITA) - Opel Ascona 400 - + 0:04
3. #??? Maurizio Verini (ITA)/MAURO MANNINI (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV turbo - + 2:47
4. #??? Tonino Tognana (ITA)/SERGIO CRESTO (USA) - Fiat 131 Abarth - + 3:11
5. #??? Mauro Pregliasco (ITA)/VITTORIO REISOLI (ITA) - Alfa Romeo Alfetta GTV turbo - + 6:30
6. #??? Federico Ormezzano (ITA)/CLAUDIO BERRO (ITA) - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus - + 8:12
7. #??? Angelo Presotto (ITA)/MAX SGHEDONI (ITA) - Ford Escort RS1800 - + 11:08
8. #??? Roberto Liviero (ITA)/GENOVESI (ITA) - Ferrari 308GTB - + 11:41


Thanks a lot and an excellent new year!
Américo Mendes.

I guess that if you don't ask you have it. So I'll ask you later on some names...
Regards and Happy New Year
Janusz

cvhi
31st December 2010, 19:27
European rally championship 1981

JANNER
ARTIC
GALWAY
BOUCLES DE SPA
SWEDISH
SACHS WINTER
COSTA BRAVA
HANKIRALLY
TARGA FLORIO
RACE
YU
COSTA SMERALDA
SAARLAND
ALPIN
MASPALOMAS
CIRCUIT OF IRELAND
ELBA
ARBO
CS
ZLATNI PIASSATZI
4 REGIONS
LORRAINE
SOUTH SWEDISH
HASPENGOUW
SCOTTISH
DANUBE
HESSEN
CIOCCO
YPRES
SKODA
HUNSRUCK
MADEIRA
HEBROS
HALKIDIKIS
BIANCHI
MANX
TOUR DE FRANCE
CYPRUS
VIN
ANTIBES
ALGARVE
SAN MARINO
CATALUNA
AOSTE

cvhi
31st December 2010, 19:30
European Rally Championship 1982

Janner
Artic
Boucles De Spa
Galway
Swedish
Costa Brava
Sachs Winter
Hanki
Targa Florio
Race
Garrigues
Costa Smeralda
Saarland
Circuit Of Ireland
Alpin
Arbo
Elba
Zlatni Piassatzi
4 Regions
Haspengouw
South Swedish
Della Lana
Hessen
Scottish
Danube
Ypres
Ciocco
Skoda
Cs
Hunsruck
Madeira
Halkidikis
Bianchi
Hebros
Asturias
Tatry
Manx
Yu
Tour De France
Chypre
Vin
Corte Ingles
Antibes
Algarve
San Marino
Catalunya
Aoste

cvhi
31st December 2010, 19:33
For 1982 if someone have entry list about skoda rally, bianchi, Hebros, Asturias, Tatry, Yu, Vin, Danube, South Swedish, Haspengouw, Saarland, Circuit of Ireland, Race espagne, Hanki rally, Galway, Artic and Janner.

Thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2011

sednem
1st January 2011, 17:37
Hi Janusz thanks for your input,

below some remarks:
- in Hessen-Rally
07 Friedhelm Kissel D Alfons? Stock, I'm assuming that the co-driver is Hans-Dieter Stock instead of Alfons: The (logical) reason is 1) in my DB Alfons is allways a driver. 2) I fund in some german results Hans-Dieter as Kissel's co-driver (for example in:http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/showthread.php?t=6160&page=3).

- In Skoda Rally, I have already Sjunning in 5th (confirmed with in el mundo deportivo july 18th 1980...) Here is my top 5:
1. #??? John Haugland (NOR)/Jan-Olof Bohlin (SWE) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H27:06
2. #??? Jirí Sedivý (CSK)/Jiri Janecek (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H32:05
3. #??? Vlastimil Havel (CSK)/Jan Soukup (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H36:50
4. #??? Ladislav Krecek (CSK)/Borivoj Motl (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H37:23
5. #??? Björn Sjunning (SWE)/Hans Andersson (SWE) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 4H37:35

- Madeira: Serge Messine is a belgian 9 Aug 1951 in Kemmel.

- In Rajd Warszawski : Zanini's codriver is:Manolo Vidal (I just fund this:http://www.actionpress.net/clasicos/?p=1910 maybe it's interesting for you...)

- Alpin: maybe COLETTE Galli as Joseph Grindou codriver's (like in MC1980)

- Scottish rally, I think that Gallacher co-driver's is John Eyres (instead of EIRES) they were scotish rallying champions that year...

- Galway: I'm assuming: Austin McHale/JOHN McGee (same team as in RAC 79), John Price/HUGH Wylie (as in RAC81) and Donald Keating/NICK Condon.

- Vin: token from el mundo deportivo... :( I've cross checked with the 1980 switzerland champship and your data seems to be correct!
Now, Bregnard's co-driver must be Jean-FRANÇOIS Bühler

And finally, still missing 10th on Scottish Rally.

Regards and an happy 2011 for everibody!
Américo

januszsz
2nd January 2011, 12:53
Hi Janusz thanks for your input,

below some remarks:
- in Hessen-Rally
07 Friedhelm Kissel D Alfons? Stock, I'm assuming that the co-driver is Hans-Dieter Stock instead of Alfons: The (logical) reason is 1) in my DB Alfons is allways a driver. 2) I fund in some german results Hans-Dieter as Kissel's co-driver (for example in:http://www.rallye-magazin.de/forum/showthread.php?t=6160&page=3).

- In Skoda Rally, I have already Sjunning in 5th (confirmed with in el mundo deportivo july 18th 1980...) Here is my top 5:
1. #??? John Haugland (NOR)/Jan-Olof Bohlin (SWE) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H27:06
2. #??? Jirí Sedivý (CSK)/Jiri Janecek (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H32:05
3. #??? Vlastimil Havel (CSK)/Jan Soukup (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H36:50
4. #??? Ladislav Krecek (CSK)/Borivoj Motl (CSK) - Skoda 130 RS - 4H37:23
5. #??? Björn Sjunning (SWE)/Hans Andersson (SWE) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 4H37:35

- Madeira: Serge Messine is a belgian 9 Aug 1951 in Kemmel.

- In Rajd Warszawski : Zanini's codriver is:Manolo Vidal (I just fund this:http://www.actionpress.net/clasicos/?p=1910 maybe it's interesting for you...)

- Alpin: maybe COLETTE Galli as Joseph Grindou codriver's (like in MC1980)

- Scottish rally, I think that Gallacher co-driver's is John Eyres (instead of EIRES) they were scotish rallying champions that year...

- Galway: I'm assuming: Austin McHale/JOHN McGee (same team as in RAC 79), John Price/HUGH Wylie (as in RAC81) and Donald Keating/NICK Condon.

- Vin: token from el mundo deportivo... :( I've cross checked with the 1980 switzerland champship and your data seems to be correct!
Now, Bregnard's co-driver must be Jean-FRANÇOIS Bühler

And finally, still missing 10th on Scottish Rally.

Regards and an happy 2011 for everibody!
Américo
Hi Americo,
Thank you for some corrections or additional information.
Alfons Stock was not sure so he was attached with "?".
About Rally Skoda there are two versions of result. Some say Sjunning was 5th and Blahna 8th (a.o. M.Holmes) and other (including all known to me Czech or Czechoslovak sources) say that Blahna was 5th and Sjunning 6th. Now guess who is right.
10th in Scottish were: Geoff Fielding/Tony Goulding-GB-Escort RS1800.
I noticed you are looking for start numbers too. Here you have top 10 numbers from Varsovie: 2, 3, 4, 5, 12, 22, 8, 10, 18, 20.
Rallye Skoda numbers: Haugland 2, Havel 8, Valousek 20, Ferjancz 7.
Do you know first names of following drivers/co-drivers:
Costa Brava
Jose Luis Salent/J.... Puvil
J...... Cid/J...... Pons
Juan Bayo/......... Molina
Galway
Ernest Kidney/ Mark? or Frank? O'Donoghue
Targa Florio/Sicilia
Alberto Carrotta/......... Amara
Andrea Zanussi/........ Castagnara
"Amphicar"/......... Schermi
"Apache"/........ Cammarata
Costa Smeralda
Gianfranco Cunico/........ Ravizza
Alberto Carotta/........Gattuccio
Amedeo Gerbino/........ Secci
Circuit of Ireland
Jim Logan/....... Ervine
Godfrey Jones/........ France-Jackson
J..... McDonald/Brian Murphy
Elba
....... Rabino/Luciano Tedeschini
Pierluigi Zanetti/.......... Cora
.......... Volpi/.......... Piacini
.......... Giovacchini/......... Taffari
Lucien Bianchi
Jean-Marie Jacquemin/......... Destat
Robert Cat/........ Barjou
........ Keller/......... Hoss
Alpine
Francis Bondil/........ Barjou
Dominique de Meyer/........ Bolla
Lorraine
......... Vaucard/........ Arnould
Claude Dormoy/J....... Bellefleur
Jean Belliard/....... Bufferne
Hessen
Peter Brink/.......... Nieborg
...... Kramer/........ Spindeler
Scottish
Don Heggie/...... Livingstone
Antibes
Alain Viano/......... Barthelat
Paul Rouby/........ Leroux
Orense
J....... Cid/........ de Llorent
........ Rosendo/........... Diaz
Juan Luis Paradela/.......... Rogelio
Jose Luis Vilanova/......... Vazquez
......... Eiranova/........... Tenreiro
Ciocco
Gianfranco Cunico/.......... Meggiolan
Carlo Capone/......... Maran
Massimo Ercolani/........... Baldacci
Ypres
R....... Moortgat/ "Andy"
Yvan Viaene/......... de Corte
Patrick? or Paul? Lietaer/......... Lietaer
Patrick de Schaetzen/........ Dirix
CS (Spain)
Eduardo Balcazar/........ Martin
...... Sallent/........ Altariba
Mariano Lacasa/......... Barreras
....... Ateka/........ Ruiz
........ Martinez/........... Vaz
Madeira
Emanuel Pereira/F....... Castro
Hernani Roda/C....... de Sousa
Georges Houel/R...... Luis
Halkidiki
Carlos Torres/A...... Morais
Ilia Chubrikov/......... Iliev
"Carlo"/....... Komminos
Tour de France
......... Dormoy/......... Bellfleur
Jean-Jacques Enjalbert/......... Zagialomo
Cyprus
Vahan Terzian/......... Andreou
Panayiotis Theophanides/........ Theophanus
....... Karalis/......... Hadjisavvas
..... Panayides/A........ Stylianou
Vin
Philippe Roux/......... Mugnier
RACE
R........ Villar/J....... Diaz
E........ Villar/F...... Garret
Carlos Torres/A...... Morais
Algarve
Fernando Simoes/........... Campos
San Marino
Roberto Liviero/.......... Genovesi
Catalunya
...... Sallent/........ Altariba
Mariano Lacasa/....... Adrian
Jose Maria Segura/F....... Bofill
........... Camps? or Campos?/.......... Martinez

Regards
Janusz

MG Rally
2nd January 2011, 13:28
A377VUK was indeed entered by Ruben Borjesson and Joe Hawkins on the 1985 Liege International Police Rally. They were seeded 1 having won the event on numerous occasions mostly in a Volvo 242. Not entirely sure what caused their demise but it was their last entry in this rally. Hope this helps you!
That is awesome SJWinter - many thanks.

Where di you find the above information? I don't suppose you know the actual date of the rally, or have any photos of the car do you?

MG Rally
2nd January 2011, 13:31
Has anybody got an Entry List or Results for the 1993 Lombard London Sydney Marathon please?

Any help would be gratefully appreciated - many thanks!

MG Rally
2nd January 2011, 13:32
Has anybody got an Information, Press Reports, Entry List, Results and Photos of the two Rover SD1 3500 Vitesse of Tony Pond / ?????????? - Reg No A379 VUK, and Rene Metge / Jean-Pierre Malcher - Reg No A377 VUK from the 1983 Trophée Jean Francois Piot please?

Any help would be gratefully appreciated - many thanks!

kabouter
2nd January 2011, 15:24
Happy 2011 everybody :D

10th on Scottish 1980: Geoff Fielding / Tony Goulding (Ford Escort RS) 4:48:44

ReWind
2nd January 2011, 18:38
Serge Messine is a belgian 9 Aug 1951 in Kemmel.Unfortunately he WAS - as he isn't anymore. He died two years ago on 20 December 2008. (Source (http://emmily.skynetblogs.be/archive/2008/12/23/serge-messine-overleden.html))

FAL
2nd January 2011, 21:52
That is awesome SJWinter - many thanks.
Where di you find the above information? I don't suppose you know the actual date of the rally, or have any photos of the car do you?

I guess that explains the reference to a "Belgian Rally". Not a mainstream rally, although the "Police Rally" is known in the UK from the time former BMC works driver John Gott, then Chief Constable of Northamptonshire, borrowed a works Sunbeam Tiger to win it (1965?).

Juha
3rd January 2011, 14:04
Lorraine
Jean Claude Vaucard/........ Arnould

Ypres
Rudolf Moortgat/ "Andy"
PaulLietaer /......... Lietaer



For 1982 if someone have entry list about skoda rally, bianchi, Hebros, Asturias, Tatry, Yu, Vin, Danube, South Swedish, Haspengouw, Saarland, Circuit of Ireland, Race espagne, Hanki rally, Galway, Artic and Janner.

Thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2011
I have the full entry list for the Haspengouw in an excel file. I'll mail it to you after I've seen if it's 100% correct.

Here are the leading entries, the rest will follow later. If anyone can complete it, you're welcome.

Delbar, Bohne and Kridel were non-starters.

1 Pentti Airikkala / Juha Piironen - SF - Ford Escort BDA
2 Guy Colsoul / Alain Lopes - B - Opel Ascona 400
3 Russell Brookes / Ronan Morgan - GB/IRL - Vauxhall Chevette HSR 2300
4 Hermès Delbar / Eddy Borremans - B - Opel Ascona 400
5 Holger Bohne / Ahrens - D - Ford Escort BDA
6 Robert Droogmans / Ronny Joosten - B - Ford Escort BDA
7 Jan Van der Marel / Bruno Van Traa - NL - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
8 Simon Everett / Dany Colebunders GB/B - Vauxhall Chevette
9 Aloyse Kridel / Paul Dunkel - LUX - Ford Escort BDA
10 Marc Duez / Willy Lux - B - Porsche 911 SC
11 Jean-Louis Dumont / Lambert Peeters - B - Datsun Violet GT
12 Cyril Bolton / Steve Fellows - GB - Triumph TR7
13 Chistian Coeuille / Berthon - F - Renault Alpine V6
14 Patrick Snijers / Georges Van Oosten - B - BMW 323i
15 Jussi Mäkynen / Antti Airisto - SF - Ford Escort BDA
16 Willy Plas / Materne B - Fiat Ritmo Abarth
17 Paul Lietaer / "Rossi" - B - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
18 Valère Vandermaesen / Julien Aerts - B - Opel Ascona 400
19 John Price / Wyllie - GB - Renault 5 Turbo
20 Wim Luijbregts / Ab Molkenboer NL - Mitsubishi Lancer Turbo
21 Eddy Van Oost / Berthot - B - Porsche 911 SC
22 Jan Bak / André Schoonenwolf - NL - Porsche 911 SC
23 Josef Brack / Martin Brack - D - Porsche 911 SC
24 John Bestebreurtje / Bob Dickhout NL - Mitsubishi Lancer Turbo
25 Hubert Colsoul / Dewolf - B - Opel Ascona 400
26 Graf / Berthoud - CH - Renault 5 Turbo
27 Jean Filippini / Guy Briesen - B - Toyota Celica
28 Eric Bessem / Vrijens NL - Peugeot 504 Coupé V6
29 Peter Verspuy / Theo Badenberg - NL - Opel Ascona
30 Etienne Barras / Detant - B - Ford Escort
31 Jos Boon / Eric Van Bourgonie - B - Opel Ascona
32 Tobback / Vanderlinden B - Porsche 911 SC
33 Guy de Maegd / Herman de Maegd - B - BMW 323i
34 Ivan Viaene / Ostyn - B - Opel Kadett SR
35 Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer / Dumoulin - B - VW Jetta
36 Jan de Boey / Luc Dierickx B - Opel Ascona 2000i


Hello,

Perhaps somebody can help me, i search name and cars on the entry list 24 Heures Yprès 1995, numbers N°42 43 45 75 91 96 106 112 121 131 133 141.

thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr

42 Tim Svanholt
45 Frank Broeckaert

januszsz
3rd January 2011, 17:34
Thank you Juha for names. Here below I added few names to the list:

5 Holger Bohne / ADOLF Ahrens - D - Ford Escort BDA
13 Chistian Coeuille / YVAN Berthon - F - Renault Alpine V6
16 Willy Plas / JOSEPH Materne B - Fiat Ritmo Abarth
19 John Price / HUGH Wylie - GB - Renault 5 Turbo
25 Hubert Colsoul / Dewolf - B - Opel Ascona 400- maybe ROLAND DEWULF?
35 Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer / JOS Dumoulin - B - VW Jetta

Regards
Janusz

sednem
3rd January 2011, 17:42
Thanks Janusz...

An you can find below my input...




Do you know first names of following drivers/co-drivers:
Costa Brava
Jose Luis Sallent/Jordi Puvil
Jorge Cid/Jorge Pons
Juan Bayo/Joan Molina

Targa Florio/Sicilia
Alberto Carrotta/Ornella Amara

Costa Smeralda
Gianfranco Cunico/Lorenzo Ravizza
Alberto Carotta/Gaspare Gattuccio
Amedeo Gerbino/........ Secci (I have Claudio Berro as co-driver)

Circuit of Ireland
Jim Logan/Derek Ervine
Godfrey Jones/Cyril France-Jackson

Elba
Franco Rabino/Luciano Tedeschini
Roberto Volpi/Sandro Piacini
Claudio Giovacchini/Piero Taffari
Lucien Bianchi
Jean-Marie Jacquemin/Max Destat
Robert Cat/Thierry Barjou
Carlo Keller/......... Hoss
Alpine
Francis Bondil/Thierry Barjou
Dominique de Meyer/J.... Bolla
Lorraine
Jean-Claude Vaucard/........ Arnould
Jean Belliard/Jean-Louis Bufferne
Antibes
Paul Rouby/J-Y. Leroux (maybe Jean-Yves...)
Orense
Jordi Cid/........ de Llorent (I have E.De Llorens as co-driver)
Eugenio Eiranova/Enrique Tenreiro
Ciocco
Gianfranco Cunico/Andrea Meggiolan
Carlo Capone/Luigi Maran
Ypres
Rudolf Moortgat/ "Andy"
Paul Lietaer/Luc Lietaer
CS (Spain)
Eduardo Balcazar/Juan Martin
José-Luis Sallent/Antonio Altariba
Mariano Lacasa/Guillermo Barreras
Rafa Ateka/Javier Ruiz
Francisco Martinez/Serafín Vaz
Halkidiki
Carlos Torres/António Morais
Ilia Chubrikov/Vlastimil Iliev
Tour de France
Claude Dormoy/......... Bellfleur
Jean-Jacques Enjalbert/Jacques Zagialomo
Cyprus
Panayiotis Theophanides/Yiannakis Theophanus
RACE
Ricardo Villar/Juan-Antonio Diaz
Enrique Villar/Federico Garret
Carlos Torres/António Morais
San Marino
Roberto Liviero/Marco Genovesi
Catalunya
José-Luis Sallent/Antonio Altariba
Jaume Camps/A. Martinez

Regards
Janusz


Regards
Américo

januszsz
3rd January 2011, 19:18
Thanks Janusz...
An you can find below my input...
Regards
Américo
Thank you Americo. I would ask you on 1981.
Janner
Walter Egger/....... Koller
Peter Mattig/....... Fischer
Galway
Bertie Fisher/Frank or Mark O'Donoghue
Dessie McCartney/........ Russell
Richie Heeley/.......... Meade
Ken McKinstry/........ McGaffin
Trevor Cathers/....... Dolan
Kevin Doyle/.......... Fitzimmons
Costa Brava
Alfonso Marcos/....... Bofil
Fernando Prats/...... Vizern
.......... Herrera/........ Minguez
.......... Cartoixa/........... Prats
"Gavi"/......... Ventura
Targa Florio-Sicilia
"Amphicar"/........ Schermi
"Dielis"/.......... Spataro
del RACE Sol
Francisco Balcazar/........ Molina
Alfonso Marcos/....... Bofil
Costa Smeralda
....... Ricci/....... Bignardi
Saarland
Manfred Hero/......... Thiery
........... Felzer/......... Hopsche
Alpin
Dominique de Meyer/J...... Bolla
Gerard Mandrea/........ Mandrea
Bernard Manquin/......... de Corre
............ Venturi/.......... Giorcelli
Maspalomas
Augusti Garcia/.......... Dominguez
Angel Davila/........... Ramos
Ireland
John Murphy/............ Dunn
James Wilson/........... Wilson
Elba
Giorgo Bernocchi/......... Chitarin
Piergiorgio Barsanti/......... Lappo
Arbo
Antonio Zanussi/.......... Boeri
Mario Aldo Pasetti/........ Siega
Andreas Karasek/........... de Cillia
Werner Grissmann/.......... Vogel
........... Purkowitzer/.......... Krapesch
CS (Spain)
.............. Herrera/M............ Minguez
Mariano Lacasa/.......... Balana
.......... Gomez/R............. Minguez
"Roke"/.............. Villanueva
........... Valdubieco/"Pedro"
4 Reggioni
Federico Ormezzano/.......... Capra
.......... Ricci/Claudio Berro
Alberto Bigo/........... Bussolino
Lorraine
Jean-Claude Vaucard/........... Haxaire
........ Grobot/......... Roques
Jean Belliard/......... Lemmens
Philippe Kruger/.......... Tassel
Danube
Ivan Nikolov/............ Dunev
............ Grigoras/Ovidiu Scobai
Hessen
Erwin Weber/............ Oschner
Friedhelm Kissel/........... Berg
Jorgen Nielsen/........... Esbensen
Ciocco
Amedeo Gerbino/.......... Mollica
Pierluigi Zanetti/.......... Stradella
Giorgo Bernocchi/......... Chitarin
Alberto Bigo/......... Grassi
Hunsruck
Erwin Weber/............ Oschner
Madeira
Antonella Mandelli/............ Maggi
............ Carbonel/............. Boubet
Hernani Roda/C.......... Sousa
Jose P..... Maia/J.......... C......... Gomes
Hebros
Ivan Nikolov/....... Tolev
Manolis Halivelakis/........ Teoharis
.......... Mihailov/........... Radev
.......... Ivanov/............ Prostov
......... Dobrev/........... Pashov
Halkidiki
........... Konstantakatos/.......... Foussaras
M.......... Lykakis/Nikos Panou
.............. Brandstatter/............ Kalteis
........... Kouroglou/Dimitris Manopoulos
Lucien Bianchi
Patrick de Schaetzen/.............. Craninx
............ Godart/............... Godart
........... Jensen/.............. Syberg
Manx
John Brown/............ Nicholson
Tour de France
Bernard Beguin/............ Buchet
Jacques Panciaticci/............. Thinnes
............ Labrot/........... Cabaniols
Cyprus
Costas Theocharides/......... Charalambous
S........... Galides/.............. Evripidou
Dinos Maschias/............ Panayiotou
Vin
Marcel Gall/........ Gunter
Michel Maye/.......... Kulmer
Adriano Terrani/.......... Govi
Antibes
Tycho van Dijk/.......... Gaudin
Algarve
Jean Bouzat/........... Soulier
Yves-Andre Bruel/............ Jean
M........... Andre-Poyaud/D........... Andre-Poyaud
San Marino
Mario Aldo Pasetti/........ Siega
Amedeo Gerbino/......... Mollica
Catalunya
C............ Perejean/............... Molina
........... Roger/............. Correal
H............. Babler/R............ Pinedo
........... Junoy/............ Papasseit
Charles Mila/S........... Lovis
Aosta
Paolo Fabrizio Fabbri/................ Ravaioli
Reo Celesia/........ Paganin
................ Perazio/......... Scaramuzzi
Andrea Betti/............ Carissimi
............. Ricci/.......... Amati
............. Napoli/Marina Mandrile
........... Conti/.............. Tron

Regards
Janusz

sednem
4th January 2011, 10:04
Thank you Americo. I would ask you on 1981...

Regards
Janusz

Hi Janus,
I'm still entering 1981 in my DB... :(
and having a lot of 'holes'...

Missing some rallys dates:
14. Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
16. Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
18. ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
21. Rally Quattro Regioni (ITA)
26. Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
28. 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
29. Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA)
30. Skoda Rally (CSK)
33. Hebros Rallye (BGR)
35. Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
36. Rally Internacional Ilha de Man (GBR)
39. Rallye International du Vin et du Valais (CHE)
42. Rally di San Marino (SMR)
44. Rally d'Aosta (ITA)

And some top 10...
Jänner 6-10
Ártico 5-10
Galway Rally 7-10
Hankiralli 7-10
Circuit of Ireland 4-10
ARBÖ Rally 2-10
Quattro Regioni 9-10
Haspengouw Rally 7-10
Donau 6-10
Ciocco 3-10
Skoda 5-10
Madeira 4-10
Hebros 4-10
Lucien Bianchi 3-10
Manx 7-10
Cyprus 4-10
Valais 7-10
Algarve 7-10
San Marino 7-10
Aosta 4-10

Regards
Américo.

Juha
4th January 2011, 11:36
Haspengouw Rally 7-10

7. 14 Bertie Fisher / Austin Frazer (GB) - Ford Escort RS (4J)
8. 3 Libra Racing - John Buffum / Ab Molkenboer (USA/NL) - SCCA - Triumph TR7 V8 (4K)
9. 22 Luigi Bastos Racing - Hermès Delbar - Georges Van Oosten (B) - Duindistel - BMW 323i (2H)
10. 19 Duindistel - Pierre Dumoulin / Jos Dumoulin (B) - Duindistel - Porsche 911 SC (4J)

I have some of the other results too, will have a look for it.

Steve Boyd
4th January 2011, 15:24
For Janusz & Americo -
1981 Manx rally top 10 taken from "25 Years of the Manx Rally" by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton:
1 Tony Pond/Mike Nicholson (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 231m 31s
2 Jimmy McRae/Ian Grindod (Opel Ascona 400) 232m 8s
3 Malcolm Wilson/Terry Harryman (Ford Escort RS) 242m 16s
4 Sean Campbell/Austin Frazer (Opel Ascona 400) 247m 0s
5 Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS) 248m 12s
6 Malcolm Patrick/Brian Rainbow (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 248m 41s
7 Brendan Fagan/Ronan Morgan (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 251m 50s
8 Mike Stuart/Frank Rowlands (Ford Escort RS) 254m 58s
9 "Didi"/"Pauly" (Fiat 131 Abarth) 257m 42s
10 John Brown/Dave Nicholson (Ford Escort RS) 261m 48s

Juha
4th January 2011, 20:12
2 Jimmy McRae/Ian Grindrod (Opel Ascona 400) 232m 8s
9 "Didi"/André Pauly (Fiat 131 Abarth) 257m 42s

januszsz
4th January 2011, 20:23
14. Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA) 10-12.04.
16. Circuit of Ireland (IRL) 17-21.04.
18. ARBÖ Rally (AUT) 24-26.04.
21. Rally Quattro Regioni (ITA) 14-16.05.
26. Rally do Danúbio (ROM) 11-13.06.
28. 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL) 26-28.06.
29. Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA) 25-27.06.
30. Skoda Rally (CSK) 10-12.07.
33. Hebros Rallye (BGR) 22-23.08.
35. Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL) 04-06.09.
36. Rally Internacional Ilha de Man (GBR) 11-12.09.
39. Rallye International du Vin et du Valais (CHE) 02-04.10.
42. Rally di San Marino (SMR) 07-09.11.
44. Rally d'Aosta (ITA) 11-13.12.

And some top 10...
Jänner 6-10
6. Wilfried Wiedner/Franz Zehetner-A-131 Abarth
7. Attila Ferjancz/Janos Tandari-H-R5 Alpine
8. Gerhard Kalnay/Ferdi Hinterleitner-A-Escort RS2000
9. Walter Egger/Koller-A-Golf GTI
10. Peter Mattig/Fischer-D-Ascona
Ártico 5-10
5. Pekka Vilpponen/Heikki Palmuaro-FIN-Escort RS2000
6. Hannu Valtaharju/Matti Lammi-FIN-Escort RS
7. Erkki Pitkanen/Juhani Paalama-FIN-Datsun 160J
8. Antero Laine/Timo Hantunen-FIN-Escort RS
9. Mika Sillankorva/Juhani Nieminen-FIN-Escort RS2000
10. Harri Uotila/Timi Leino-FIN-Escort RS2000
Galway Rally 7-10
7. Ken McKinstry/McGaffin-IRL-Escort RS2000
8. Trevor Cathers/Dolan-IRL-Escort RS2000
9. Kevin Doyle/Fitzimmons-IRL-Talbot Sunbeam TI
10. Rosemary Smith/Pauline Gullick-IRL/GB-Ascona 400
Hankiralli 7-10
7. Olli Mertsalmi/Timo Tuominen-FIN-Escort RS
8. Mika Sillankorva/Juhani Nieminen-FIN-Escort RS
9. Timo Jouhki/Asko Nevalainen-FIN-Escort RS
10. Heikki Enomaa/Jyrki Ahava-FIN-Sunbeam Lotus
Circuit of Ireland 4-10
4. Donald Keating/Nick Condon-IRL-Chevette 2300HSR
5. Brendan Fagan/Ronan Morgan-IRL-Chevette 2300HSR
6. Per Eklund/Frank Main-S/GB-Celica
7. Mike Stuart/Frank Rowlands-GB-Escort RS2000
8. John Murphy/Dunn-IRL-Escort RS2000
9. Trevor Fleming/Bill Moffett-IRL-Talbot Sunbeam TI
10. James Wilson/Wilson-IRL-Talbot Avenger
ARBÖ Rally 2-10
2. Franco Ceccato/Massimo de Antoni-I-131 Abarth
3. Antonio Zanussi/Boeri-I-911SC
4. Mario Aldo Pasetti/Siega-I-131 Abarth
5. Andreas Stigler/Helmuth Lukarsch-A-Audi 80
6. Andreas Karasek/G. de Cillia-A-Ascona 400
7. Werner Grissmann/Vogel-A-Ascona
8. Purkowitzer/Krapesch-A-Skoda 130RS
9. Ales Pusnik/Rudi Sali-YU-R5 Alpine
10. Gerhard Kalnay/Ferdi Hinterleitner-A-Escort RS2000
Quattro Regioni 9-10
9. Bruno Bentivogli/Sante Valbonetti Arcangeli-RSM/I-Sunbeam Lotus
10. Alberto Bigo/Bussolino-I-Ascona
Haspengouw Rally 7-10
you got earlier
Donau 6-10
6. Ladislav Krecek/Borivoj Motl-CS-130RS
7. Georgi Petrov/Ivan Gospodinov-BG-Lada 1600
8. Grigoras/Ovidiu Scobai-RO-Dacia 1300
9. Stefan Vasile/Mircea Panaite-RO-Dacia 1300
10. Vello Yunpuu/Arne Timusk-SU-Lada 1600
Ciocco 3-10
3. Antonio Tognana/Sergio Cresto-I/USA-131 Abarth
4. Alberto Carrotta/Ornalla Amara-I-Ascona 400
5. Amedeo Gerbino/Mollica-I-Sunbeam Lotus
6. Bruno Bentivogli/Stefano Evangelisti-RSM/I-Escort RS2000
7. Pierluigi Zanetti/Stradella-I-Ascona
8. Giorgio Bernocchi/Chitarin-I-Ascona 400
9. Alberto Bigo/Grassi-I-Ascona
10. Antonillo Zordan/Daniele Ciocca-I-131 Abarth
Skoda 5-10
5. Ladislav Krecek/Borivoj Motl-CS-130RS
6. Vaclav Blahna/Pavel Schovanek-CS-130RS
7. Vaclav Pech/Jiri Janecek-CS-130RS
8. Willy Plas/Eddy Nijs-B-Ritmo 75
9. Pavel Valousek/Karel Jiratko-CS-130RS
10. Miroslav Sefr/Vaclav Cvrk-CS-130RS
Madeira 4-10
4. Carbonel/R. Boubet-F-911SC
5. Geoff Fielding/Philip Kerr-GB-Escort RS1800
6. Raul Varela/Pedro Araujo-P-Kadett GT/E
7. Hernani Roda/C. Sousa-P-Datsun 1200
8. Carlos Reis/Oscar Fernandes-P-Visa
9. Joaquim Gouveia/Riccardo Caldeira-P-Datsun 710
10. Jose Maia/J.C. Gomes-P-Visa SX
Hebros 4-10
4. Manolis Halivelakis/Teoharis-GR-Escort RS2000
5. Mihailov/Radev-BG-Lada 1600
6. Georgi Petrov/Ivan Tonev-BG-Lada 1600
7. Georgi Petarneichev/Georgi Mirchev-BG-Lada 1600
8. Ilia Bonev/Rumen Babev-BG-BMW 2002
9. Ivanov/Prostov-BG-Lada 1600
10. Dobrev/Pashov-Skoda 130RS
Lucien Bianchi 3-10
3. Malcolm Wilson/Terry Harryman-GB-Escort RS1800
4. Jean-Louis Dumont/Eddy Borremans-B-R5 Turbo
5. Willy Plas/Eddy Nijs-B-Ritmo 75
6. Alain Oreille/Sylvie Oreille-F-Kadett GT/E
7. Patrick de Schaetzen/Craninx-B-Escort RS2000
8. J.C. Godart/J. Godart-B-Kadett GT/E
9. Jensen/Syberg-DK-Kadett GT/E
10. Terry Pankhurst/Roger Freeman-GB-Escort RS2000
Manx 7-10
you got it earlier, too
Cyprus 4-10
4. Kris Kirmitsis/Petros Demetriades-CY-Honda Accord
5. S. Galides/Evripidou-CY-Sunbeam Lotus
6. Geoff Fielding/Philip Kerr-GB-Escort RS1800
7. "Fouis"/Nikos Neophytou-CY-Talbot Sunbeam
8. Dinis Maschias/Panayiotou-CY-Subaru 1600 GFT
9. Ernest Kenmore/John Armstrong-GB-Talbot Sunbeam
10. Panayiotis Theophanides/Theodoros Vassiliades-CY-Citroen GS X3
Valais 7-10
7. Michel Savioz/Philippe Schupbach-CH-911SC
8. Michel Maye/Kulmer-CH-Kadett GT/E
9. Adriano Terrani/Govi-CH-Kadett GT/E
10. Jan Trajbold/Oldrich Gottfried-CS-130RS
Algarve 7-10
7. Yves-Andre Bruel/Jean-F-Peugeot 104ZS
8. Antonio Segurado/Pedro Sena-P-Escort RS
9. Raul Peixoto/Luis Calafate-P-Escort RS
10. M. Andre-Poyaud/D. Andre-Poyaud-F-Peugeot 104ZS
San Marino 7-10
7. Bruno Bentivogli/Sante Valbonetti Arcangeli-RSM/I-Escort RS2000
8. Amedeo Gerbino/Mollica-I-Sunbeam Lotus
9. Giovanni Del Zoppo/Ergy Bartolich-I-Peugeot 104ZS
10. Walter Francia/Roberto Dotti-I-Ascona
Aosta 4-10
4. Paolo Fabrizio Fabbri/Ravaioli-I-Ritmo
5. Remo Celesia/Paganin-I-131 Abarth
6. Perazio/Scaramuzzi-I-R5 Turbo
7. Andrea Betti/Carissimi-I-Stratos HF
8. Ricci/Paolo Amati-I-Sunbeam Lotus
9. Napoli/Marina Mandrile-I-Kadett GT/E
10. Conti/Tron-I-Autobianchi A112

Regards
Janusz

Steve Boyd
5th January 2011, 16:26
2 Jimmy McRae/Ian Grindrod (Opel Ascona 400) 232m 8s
I need to check my typing more carefully in future!

Juha
5th January 2011, 23:20
Mika Sillankorva/Juhani Nieminen-FIN-Escort RS2000
Shouldn't this be Minna Sillankorva / Johanna Nieminen ?

I'm not certain at all but the names look remarkably similar.



ARBÖ Rally 2-10
7. Werner Grissmann/Peter Vogel-A-Ascona

Lucien Bianchi 3-10
9. Paul Erik Jensen/Ellen Syberg-DK-Kadett GT/E

kabouter
6th January 2011, 09:02
Shouldn't this be Minna Sillankorva / Johanna Nieminen ?

I'm not certain at all but the names look remarkably similar.

Mika and Juhani is correct. And if you look at the 1983 1000 Lakes result, both Minna / Johanna and Mika / Juhani took part :) A very good example of why first names should be included in results, such a shame that in so many countries first names were hardly ever given in results or entry lists...

Juha
6th January 2011, 11:31
A funny coincidence then. :)

It's a very annoying habit, I have lots of entry lists where I can't be 100% sure who is on them because they didn't even mention the first letter of the first name.

RobertS
6th January 2011, 11:52
About Rally Skoda there are two versions of result. Some say Sjunning was 5th and Blahna 8th (a.o. M.Holmes) and other (including all known to me Czech or Czechoslovak sources) say that Blahna was 5th and Sjunning 6th. Now guess who is right.
januszsz,
My poll is on the Czech sources >

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2009/historie/bohemka/1980/skoda80_16.jpg

Same results from the Hungarian magazines in 1980 >

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/1889/1980n.jpg

cvhi
6th January 2011, 12:27
Hello Roberts,

Do you have entry list about skoda Rally 1980

I search also entry list about polski rally 1984.

Many thanks for your help

mlanders@orange.fr

RobertS
6th January 2011, 13:29
Hello Roberts,

Do you have entry list about skoda Rally 1980
You can find here >

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=12504



I search also entry list about polski rally 1984.

http://czajla.republika.pl/polski/1984/entry.htm

cvhi
6th January 2011, 14:15
Thank you very much RobertS, its wonderful

Matthewrally87
6th January 2011, 14:30
Hi, can someone help me? I search the results of the ERC 1980...

Boucles de Spa 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Arctic 1980 3°-4°-5°
Costa Brava 1980 2°-4°-5°
Galway 1980 5°
Circuit of Ireland 1980 3°-4°-5°
Saarland 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Lucien Bianchi 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Critérium Alpin 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Zlatni Piassatzi 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Lorraine 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Danube 1980 2°
Scottish 1980 1°-2°-3°
Antibes 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Ourense 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
24 Heures of Ypres 1980 4°-5°
CS 1980 1°-3°-4°-5°
Halkidikis 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Manx 1980 3°
Tour de France de L'Automobile 1980 2°-3°-5°
Cyprus 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
RACE 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Algarve 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
Catalunya 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°

Thanks!!!!!

RobertS
6th January 2011, 15:16
Hi, can someone help me? I search the results of the ERC 1980...

Zlatni Piassatzi 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°

http://golden-sands.rally-club.net/zlatni_en.html



CS 1980 1°-3°-4°-5°

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=12504

Matthewrally87
6th January 2011, 16:07
Thank you so much RobertS!!!!

RobertS
6th January 2011, 19:10
Any good source for Rallye Tour 'd Europe ???

Please....start-list for 1970 ?

RobertS
6th January 2011, 19:15
1995 Romania

If you have entry-list, results...please...

winner László Ranga - Ernő Büki
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/7380/romani95.jpg

januszsz
6th January 2011, 19:28
Boucles de Spa 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. "Didi"/Andre Pauly-B-131 Abarth
3. Jean-Louis Dumont/Robert Rorife-B-911
4. Michele Mouton/Annie Arrii-F-131 Abarth
5. Svatopluk Kvaizar/Jiri Kotek-CS-130RS
Arctic 1980 3°-4°-5°
3. Veli Hirvonen/Markku Repo-FIN-Escort RS
4. Mikael Sundstrom/ Hjelm-FIN-Escort RS2000
5. Hannu Valtaharju/Matti Lammi-FIN-Escort RS
Costa Brava 1980 2°-4°-5°
2. Jorge de Bagration/Nuria Llopis-E-Stratos HF
3. Mauro Pregliasco/Vittorio Reisoli-I-Alfetta Turbo
4. Pentti Airikkala/Risto Virtanen-FIN-Chevette 2300HS
5. Jean-Louis Clarr/Jean-Francois Fauchille-F-Ascona 2000
Galway 1980 5°
5. Sean Campbell/ Todd-?-Escort RS2000
Circuit of Ireland 1980 3°-4°-5°
3. Gerry Buckley/John Caplice-IRL-Escort RS1800
4. Malcolm Wilson/Terry Harryman-GB-Escort RS1800
5. Ian Cathcart/Robert Harkness-GB-Escort RS1800
Saarland 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Holger Soltwedel/Gisela? Blume-D-Escort RS
3. Lars Carlsson/Klaus Fabisch-S/D-Escoer RS2000
4. Klaus Fritzinger/Henning Wunsch-D-Celica
5. Harald Demuth/Arwed Fischer-D-Audi 80
Lucien Bianchi 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Jean-Louis Dumont/Robert Rorife-B-911
3. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopez-B-Ascona 400
4. "Didi"/Andre Pauly-B-131 Abarth
5. Jean-Marie Jacquemin/Max Destat-B-Sunbeam Lotus
Critérium Alpin 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Francis Vincent/Willy Huret-F-911SC
3. Alain Cudini/"Tilber"-F-Golf GTI
4. Jean Ragnotii/Jean-Marc Andrie-F-R5 Alpine
5. Francis Bondil/Thierry Barjou-F-911SC
Zlatni Piassatzi 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
you got it from RobertS
Lorraine 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Yves Loubet/ Alemany-F-911SC
3. Jean-Louis Clarr/Jean-Francois Fauchille-F-Ascona 2000
4. Francis Bondil/Alain Brunel-F-911SC
5. Pierre Meny/Jean-Francois Lienere-F-A310 V6
Danube 1980 2°
2. Błażej Krupa/Piotr Mystkowsi-PL-R5 Alpine
Scottish 1980 1°-2°-3°
1. Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz-FIN/S-Escort RS1800
2. Ari Vatanen/Dave Richards-FIN/GB-Escort RS1800
3. Anders Kullang/Bruno Berglund-S-Ascona 400
Antibes 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Francis Vincent/Willy Huret-F-911SC
3. Antonio Zanini/Jorge Sabater-E-911SC
4. Jean Ragnotii/Jean-Marc Andrie-F-R5 Alpine
5. Alain Viano/ Barthelat-F-Kagett GT/E
Ourense 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Salvador Servia/Alex Brustenga-E-Fiesta 1600
3. Pablo de Sousa/Luis Sanz-E-Seat 124-2000
4. Juan Ignacio Canela/Juan Antonio Villalba-E-Fiesta 1600
5. Jose Goncalves/Joaquim Bessa-P-911SC
24 Heures of Ypres 1980 4°-5°
4. Rudolf Moortgat/"Andy"-B-911SC
5. Maurizio Verini/Bruno Scabini-I-Alfetta Turbo
CS 1980 1°-3°-4°-5°
1. Jorge de Bagration/Nuria Llopis-E-Stratos HF
2. Ari Vatanen/Dave Richards-FIN/GB-Escort RS1800
3. Eduardo Balcazar/Juan Jose Martin-E-Stratos HF
4. Jose Luis Sallent/Antonio Altariba-E-911SC
5. Beny Fernandez/Jose Luis Salas-E-Ascona
Halkidikis 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Iorgos Moschous/"Simetra II"-GR-160J
3. Bernard Beguin/Jean-Jacques Lenne-F-911SC
4. "Iaveris"/Kostas Fertakis-GR-Escort RS
5. Carlos Torres/Antonio Morais-P-Escort RS2000
Manx 1980 3°
3. Jimmy McRae/Mike Nicholson-GB-Chevette 2300HS
Tour de France de L'Automobile 1980 2°-3°-5°
2. Bernard Beguin/Jean-Jacques Lenne-F-911SC
3. Michele Mouton/Annie Arrii-F-131 Abarth
4. Antonio Zanini/Jorge Sabater-E-911SC
5. Jacques Almeras/"Tilber"-F-911SC
Cyprus 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Kypros Kyprianou/Alkis Logginos-CY-Sunbeam Lotus
3. Andrew Cowan/Johnstone Syer-GB-Colt Lancer
4. Vahan Terzian/ Andreou-CY-Colt Lancer
5. Pavlos Moschoutis/Kostas Fertakis-GR-Escort RS
RACE 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Mauro Pregliasco/Vittorio Reisoli-I-Alfetta Turbo
3. Jorge de Bagration/Nuria Llopis-E-Stratos HF
4. Salvador Servia/Alex Brustenga-E-Fiesta 1600
5. Ricardo Villar/Juan Antonio Diaz-E-911SC
Algarve 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Santinho Mendes/Filipe Lopes-P-160J
3. Mario Silva/Pedro de Almeida-P-Escort RS
4. Francisco Romaozinho/Luis Alegria-P-Visa
5. Holger Helle/Ole Hansen-DK-Ascona 2000
Catalunya 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Mauro Pregliasco/Vittorio Reisoli-I-Alfetta Turbo
3. Salvador Servia/Alex Brustenga-E-Fiesta 1600
4. Beny Fernandez/Jose Luis Salas-E-Ascona
5. Jose Luis Sallent/Antonio Altariba-E-911SC

Regards
Janusz

RobertS
6th January 2011, 19:31
1970 ELAN-Elf Donau-Rallye(ERC 12.)
Günther Janger – Walter Wessiak A Porsche-911S 5185p.[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Carl Christian Schindler – Gustav Hruschka A Porsche-914-6 5383p.[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Nigel Hollier – Phil Short GB Alpine-Renault 5573p.[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
N...? Bosch – Gerald Mallat A VW-Beetle-1500[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Gernot Fischer – K...? Rader A VW-Beetle-1500[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Walter Lux – Hans Schiebert A VW-Beetle-1500[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Walter Pöltinger – Hans Hartinger A Porsche-914-6[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Maire Kaibic – Werner Pucher A Ford-Escort-TC[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Achim Warmbold - ...? Klapproth D Opel-Kadett[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]
Attila Ferjáncz – Jenő Zsembery H Renault-8-Gordini 6220p.[/*:m:1ccg2cqg]20....? Michel – ...? Hawrendka D Ford-Escort 2444p.

If you have any more data(full names), please...
J. C. Andruet A110 started, what was the reason of his retirement ?

januszsz
6th January 2011, 19:35
1995 Romania

If you have entry-list, results...please...


Just only top 10:
1. Laszlo Ranga/Erno Buki-H-Escort RS Cosworth
2. Georgi Petrov/Ivan Tonev-BG-Escort RS Cosworth
3. Titi Aur/Dimitru Bobescu-RO-Audi Coupe S2
4. George Grigorescu/Radu Dumitriu-RO-Clio Williams
5. Garnier/Hennebelle-?-Peugeot 309GTI
6. Ramili/Popi Amati-I-Delta HF Integrale
7. Gunther Graeff/Adrian Berghea-RO-Escort RS Cosworth
8. Beyer/Rasper-?-Clio Williams
9. Touron/Cuenot-?-Peugeot 309GTI
10. Lacombe/Pizzorno-?-Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
Regards
Janusz

RobertS
6th January 2011, 19:37
Danube 1980 2°
2. Błażej Krupa/Piotr Mystkowsi-PL-R5 Alpine
3. Attila Ferjáncz - János Tandari dr. H R5Alpine

januszsz
6th January 2011, 19:41
1970 ELAN-Elf Donau-Rallye(ERC 12.)
Günther Janger – Walter Wessiak A Porsche-911S 5185p.[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
Carl Christian Schindler – Gustav Hruschka A Porsche-914-6 5383p.[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
Nigel Hollier – Phil Short GB Alpine-Renault 5573p.[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
LEOPOLD Bosch – Gerald Mallat A VW-Beetle-1500[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
Gernot Fischer – KLAUS Rader A VW-Beetle-1500[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
Walter Lux – Hans Schiebert A VW-Beetle-1500[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
Walter Pöltinger – Hans Hartinger A Porsche-914-6[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
TITUS MAIER-Kaibic – Werner Pucher A Ford-Escort-TC[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
Achim Warmbold - GUNTHER Klapproth D Opel-Kadett[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
Attila Ferjáncz – Jenő Zsembery H Renault-8-Gordini 6220p.[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]
... Michel – ... Hawrendka D Ford-Escort 2444p.
12. KRZYSZTOF KOMORNICKI/BŁAŻEJ KRUPA-PL-ALPINE RENAULT A110 1300[/*:m:3b9aqzgk]If you have any more data(full names), please...
J. C. Andruet A110 started, what was the reason of his retirement ?
That's all I have. No more result, no list no reason of retirement to anybody, sorry.
Regards
Janusz

RobertS
6th January 2011, 20:00
That's all I have. No more result, no list no reason of retirement to anybody, sorry.
Regards
Janusz
Thanks janusz !

"12. KRZYSZTOF KOMORNICKI/BŁAŻEJ KRUPA-PL-ALPINE RENAULT A110 1300"
They run with start no.11.

Also, started some big-names like Tony Fall Ford-Escort with no.28., and Achim Warmbold with an Opel-Kadett.

Here is an article:

http://www.rallybugs.com/images/FranzKern/salz21_salzburg_69_1.jpg

http://www.rallybugs.com/images/FranzKern/salz21_salzburg_69_2.jpg

Few pics.:

http://www.krupa.info.pl/?zdjecia-z-rajdu-dunaj,334

And I edited my post:

'20. ....? Michel – ...? Hawrendka D Ford-Escort 2444p. '

Matthewrally87
6th January 2011, 21:24
Thank you so so much januszsz!!!!

sednem
7th January 2011, 10:44
Lorraine 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
2. Yves Loubet/René Alemany (Also known as "Toutafond")

Antibes 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
I have Viano in 6th:
5. #??? Jean-Pierre Ballet (FRA)/Gérard Kerespert (FRA) - Porsche 911-S - 7H12:52
6. #??? Alain Viano (FRA)/??? Barthelat (FRA) - Opel Kadett GT/E - 7H19:57
Did JP Ballet has been disqualified after this???

Ourense 1980 2°-3°-4°-5°
4. Joan Ignasi Canela/Juan Ignacio Villalba-E-Fiesta 1600
CS 1980 1°-3°-4°-5°
4. Jose Luis Sallent/Antonio Altarriba-E-911SC

Regards
Janusz

BTW do you know "Simetra II" real name???
Regards
Américo

Martin Liddle
7th January 2011, 11:39
Manx 1980 3°


3. Jimmy McRae/Mike Nicholson Vauxhall Chevette HSR 257m53s

januszsz
7th January 2011, 13:00
BTW do you know "Simetra II" real name???
Regards
Américo
"Simetra II" = Alexandros Konstatakatos
According to M.Holmes' "World Rallying 3" Ballet was classified in 5th.
Thank you Americo for your corrections.
Regards
Janusz

Juha
7th January 2011, 16:43
3. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopes-B-Ascona 400
His last name ends with an S, not a Z.


4. Jean Ragnotti/Jean-Marc Andrie-F-R5 Alpine
You've misspelled this one a couple of times.

driveace
7th January 2011, 19:00
where will I find the Entry list,and stage times and Results for the 1980 Tour Of Cumbria Please

januszsz
7th January 2011, 21:35
His last name ends with an S, not a Z.


You've misspelled this one a couple of times.
Fast typewriting leads to mistakes, sorry.

sednem
9th January 2011, 17:35
Hi januszsz,
Here what I have digged for 81...



Thank you Americo. I would ask you on 1981.
Galway
Dessie McCartney/Brian Russell
Richie Heeley/V. Meade
Costa Brava
Alfonso Marcos/....... Bofil (I have Alfonso Marcos/Antonio Altarriba - in Mundo deportivo Feb 23...)
Fernando Prats/Jaume Vizern
Juan Carlos Herrero/M. Minguez
A. Cartoixa/A. Prats
"Gavi"/J.M. Ventura
del RACE Sol
Francisco Balcazar/Joan Molina
Alfonso Marcos/F. Bofill
Costa Smeralda
Gianfranco Ricci/....... Bignardi
Saarland
Manfred Hero/Wolfgang? Thiry
........... Felzer/......... Hopsche (if it's the 7th place, I have: Dieter Selzer/Klaus Hopfe)
Alpin
Gerard Mandrea/B. Mandrea
Bernard Manquin/Dominique le Corre
J-M. Venturi/F. Giorcelli
Maspalomas
Augusti Garcia/Benjamín Dominguez
Angel Davila/Rafael Ramos
Arbo
Andreas Karasek/G. de Cillia
Werner Grissmann/Peter Vogel
CS (Spain)
Juan Carlos Herrero/M. Minguez
Mariano Lacasa/Jaime Balana
Pablo Gomez/Ramón Minguez
"Roke"/Miguel Angel Villanueva
........... Valdubieco/"Pedro" : "Pedro" : is the spanish driver Noël van
Assche? Or another "Pedro"
4 Reggioni
Gianfranco Ricci/Claudio Berro
Lorraine
Jean-Claude Vaucard/Hubert Haxaire
Étienne Grobot/P. Roques
Jean Belliard/Georges Lemmens
Philippe Kruger/Pierre Tassel
Danube
Ivan Nikolov/Boncho Dunev
Nicu Grigoras/Ovidiu Scobai
Hessen
Erwin Weber/Wilfried Öschner
Hunsruck
Erwin Weber/Wilfried Öschner
Madeira
Antonella Mandelli/Fiorella Maggi
............ Carbonel/R. Boubet (I bet it was René, but not sure...)
Halkidiki
Rudolf Brandstatter/Günther Kalteis
Lucien Bianchi
Patrick de Schaetzen/ Craninx (I have M. Cranmix, seems to be the same person... wich is correctly typed???)
Jean Claude Godart/J. Godart
Paul Erik Jensen/Ellen Syberg
Tour de France
Bernard Beguin/Claude Buchet
Jacques Panciaticci/P. Thinnes
Claude Labrot/Régine Cabaniols
Cyprus
Costas Theocharides/Melis??? Charalambous
Antibes
Tycho van Dijk/B. Gaudin
Algarve
Jean Bouzat/Jean Soulier
Yves-Andre Bruel/............ Jean
Michel Andre-Poyaud/D........... Andre-Poyaud
San Marino
Mario Aldo Pasetti/........ Siega
Amedeo Gerbino/......... Mollica
Catalunya
César Perejoan/............... Molina
Ignacio Roger/Sigfrid Correal
Hansi Babler/Rafael Pinedo
F. Junoy/Roger Papasseit
Aosta
Paolo Fabrizio Fabbri/Giancarlo Ravaioli
Franco Perazio/Maurizio Scaramuzzi
Andrea Betti/Piero Carissimi
Gianfranco Ricci/"Popi" Amati

Regards
Janusz

I still have some missing codrivers for 1981...
Artic: 4. #??? Jouni??? Kinnunen/??? Timo Liponen ???
Galway : 2. #??? Jimmy McRae/??? Ian Grindrod ???
Galway : 4. #??? John Coyne/??? ??? (???)
Boucles de Spa: 4. #17 Robert Droogmans/??? ??? (???)
Boucles de Spa: 6. #1 Andy Dawson/??? ??? (???)
Boucles de Spa: 8. #??? Jan van der Marel/??? ??? (???)
Boucles de Spa: 9. #19 «Sotrim»/??? ??? (???)
Boucles de Spa: 10. #??? Simon Everett/??? ??? (???)
Hankiralli: 2. #??? Jouni??? Kinnunen/??? Timo Liponen ???
Hankiralli: 3. #??? Erkki Pitkänen/??? ??? (???)
Hankiralli: 5. #??? Antero Laine/??? ??? (???)
Hankiralli: 6. #??? Harri Uotila/??? ??? (???)
Ireland : 2. #??? Russell Brookes/??? ??? (???)
Ireland : 3. #??? Ger Buckley/??? ??? (???)
Ireland : 9. #??? Trevor Fleming/Bill Moffett or Moffitt???
Elba:6. #??? ???Pierluigi??? Zanetti/???Loris??? Roggia
Quattro Regioni: 2. #3 Mauro Pregliasco/???Mauro??? Mannini
Haspengouw:1. #16 Patrick Snijers/???Eric Symens???
Haspengouw:2. #??? Jimmy McRae/???? Ian Grindrod ????
Haspengouw:6. #5 Holger Bohne/???? Peter Diekmann ???
Donau: 3. #??? Vaclav Pech/??? ??? (???)
Donau: 5. #??? Maciej Stawowiak/??? Ryszard Zyszkowski ????
Ypres: 4. #??? Marc Duez/???Willy Lux????
Ypres: 5. #??? Jimmy McRae/???Ian Grindrod????
Ypres: 6. #??? Patrick Snijers/??? Eric Symens???
Ypres:7. #??? Jean-Louis Dumont/??? Eddy Borremans ???
Ypres:8. #??? Gaby Goudezeune/???? Serge Messine ????
Ypres:9. #??? Robert Droogmans/??? Alain Geron ???
Ypres:10. #??? Willy Plas/???? ???? (???)
Skoda: 1. #??? Robert Droogmans/??? ??? (???)
Skoda: 3. #??? Blazej Krupa/??? ??? (???)
Skoda: 4. #??? Svatopluk Kvaizar/??? ??? (???)
Hebros: 2??. #??? Ivan Nikolov/Tolev - Fiat 131 Abarth -
Hebros: 3??. #??? Stojan Kolev/??? ??? (???) - Renault 5 Alpine -
Algarve: 3. #??? Werner Schweizer/??? ??? (???)
Algarve: 4. #??? Blazej Krupa (POL)/??? ??? (???)
Algarve: 5. #??? ??? Pereira//??? ??? (???)
San Marino: 2. #4 Federico Ormezzano (ITA)/??? ??? (???)

Regards
Américo

januszsz
9th January 2011, 19:36
Americo:
Artic: 4. #??? JOUNI Kinnunen/JOUKO Liponen (FIN)
Galway : 2. #??? Jimmy McRae/JOHN HORTON
Galway : 4. #??? John Coyne/CHRISTY FARRELL (IRL)
Boucles de Spa: 4. #17 Robert Droogmans/ERIC SYMENS (B)
Boucles de Spa: 6. #1 Andy Dawson/KEVIN GORMLEY (GB)
Boucles de Spa: 8. #??? Jan van der Marel/BRUNO VAN TRAA (NL)
Boucles de Spa: 9. #19 «Sotrim»/??? ??? (???) - in 9th I have: HERMES DELBAR/GEORGES VAN OOSTEN (B) BMW 323i 4h55m33s
Boucles de Spa: 10. #??? Simon Everett/FRED FRASNSSEN (GB/B)
Hankiralli: 2. #??? JOUNI Kinnunen/JOUKO Liponen (FIN)
Hankiralli: 3. #??? Erkki Pitkänen/JUHANI PAALAMA (FIN)
Hankiralli: 5. #??? Antero Laine/TIMO HANTUNEN (FIN)
Hankiralli: 6. #??? Harri Uotila/TIMI LEINO (FIN)
Ireland : 2. #??? Russell Brookes/MIKE BROAD (GB) -I have him as 3rd: 8h25m29s
Ireland : 3. #??? Ger Buckley/JOHN CAPLICE (IRL) - I have him as 2nd: 8h22m12s
Ireland : 9. #??? Trevor Fleming/Bill MOFFETT
Elba:6. #??? PIERLUIGI Zanetti/LORIS Roggia
Quattro Regioni: 2. #3 Mauro Pregliasco/MAURO Mannini
Haspengouw:1. #16 Patrick Snijers/ERIC SYMENS
Haspengouw:2. #??? Jimmy McRae/IAN GRINDROD
Haspengouw:6. #5 Holger Bohne/PETER DIEKMANN
Donau: 3. #??? Vaclav Pech/JIRI JANECEK (CS)
Donau: 5. #??? Maciej Stawowiak/RYSZARD ŻYSZKOWSKI
Ypres: 4. #??? Marc Duez/WILLY LUX
Ypres: 5. #??? Jimmy McRae/IAN GRINDROD
Ypres: 6. #??? Patrick Snijers/ERIC SYMENS
Ypres:7. #??? Jean-Louis Dumont/EDDY BORREMANS
Ypres:8. #??? Gaby Goudezeune/SERGE MESSINE
Ypres:9. #??? Robert Droogmans/"ALAIN GERON"
Ypres:10. #??? Willy Plas/EDDY NIJS (B)
Skoda: 1. #??? Robert Droogmans/"ALAIN GERON" (B)
Skoda: 3. #??? Blazej Krupa/PIOTR MYSTKOWSKI (PL)
Skoda: 4. #??? Svatopluk Kvaizar/JAN SOUKUP (CS)
Hebros: 2??. #??? Ivan Nikolov/Tolev - Fiat 131 Abarth - I have him as 2nd and no name for co-driver, sorry
Hebros: 3??. #??? Stojan Kolev/BOYKO IGNATOV (BG) - Renault 5 Alpine - I have him as 3rd
Algarve: 3. #??? Werner Schweizer/BERND OSTMANN (D)
Algarve: 4. #??? Blazej Krupa (POL)/PIOTR MYSTKOWSKI (PL)
Algarve: 5. #??? GOMES Pereira/QUINA FALCAO (P)
San Marino: 2. #4 Federico Ormezzano (ITA)/CLAUDIO BERRO (I)

Regards
Janusz

Juha
9th January 2011, 19:36
Boucles de Spa: 4. #17 Robert Droogmans/"Alain Geron"
Boucles de Spa: 6. #1 Andy Dawson/Kevin Gormley
Boucles de Spa: 8. #5 Jan van der Marel/Bruno Van Traa
Boucles de Spa: 9. #19 Hermès Delbar (or "Sotrim")/Georges Van Oosten
Boucles de Spa: 10. #22 Simon Everett/Fred Franssen
"Sotrim" = Hermès Delbar
Alain Geron = Ronny Joosten



Haspengouw: 1. #16 Patrick Snijers/ Eric Symens
Haspengouw: 2. #1 Jimmy McRae/ Ian Grindrod
Haspengouw: 6. #5 Holger Bohne/ Peter Diekmann

Ypres: 4. #25 Marc Duez/Willy Lux
Ypres: 5. #9 Jimmy McRae/Ian Grindrod
Ypres: 6. #17 Patrick Snijers/Eric Symens
Ypres: 7. #6 Jean-Louis Dumont/Eddy Borremans
Ypres: 8. #21 Gaby Goudezeune/Serge Messine
Ypres: 9. #4 Robert Droogmans/"Alain Geron"
Ypres:10. #32 Willy Plas/Eddy Nijs

Skoda: 1. #2 Robert Droogmans/"Alain Geron

MG Rally
10th January 2011, 18:04
Hello,

I am trying to find photos of the Rover Vitesse that this sticker is fitted to, but I do not know what year it was, what driver / co-driver, what entry number, what result or anything! Any help would be much appreciated - thank you!

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4307/bouclesdespa.jpg

Juha
10th January 2011, 20:05
If it's from the 31st edition of the rally, it would be 1988.

MG Rally
11th January 2011, 07:02
Thanks Juha - that's what I was starting to think after finding a list of winners from previous years and seeing that Patrick Snijers won the 31st 1988 Boucles de Spa in a BMW M3.

However, I cannot understand how a Group A Rover Vitesse - which had been banned from International rallying from 31 December 1986 along with the Group B cars - would be allowed to enter the 1988 event?

Doesn't vérifié mean verify in English, or scrutineer in rallying terms? If it has a scrutineering sticker in the window, surely it mut have competed on the rally - or am I mistaken?

Does anyone have an entry list for the 31st 1988 Boucles de Spa?

Many thanks again for your help!

cvhi
12th January 2011, 11:27
Halkidikis 1985

N°1 Biasion-Siviero(Lancia Rally)
N°2 Ragnotti-Thimonier(R Maxi 5 Turbo)
N°3 Demuth-Radaelli(Audi Quattro)
N°4 ??
N°5 Zanussi-Cresto(Lancia Rally)
N°6 Moschous-Fertakis(Nissan 240 RS)
N°7 Pregliasco-Cianci(Lancia Rally
N°8 ??
N°9 Fernandez-Orozco(Opel Manta 400)
N°10 Stratissino-Sassalos(Nissan 240 RS)
N°11 Laveris-Konstantakatos(Ford Escort RS 1800)
N°12 ??
N°14 ??
N°15 ??
N°16 Jigger-Stefanis(Audi Quattro)
N°17 Kalemtzakis-Nakis(Opel Ascona 400)
N°18 Melas-Mantzagriotis(Lancia Rally)
N°19 Kuzmic-Sali(R 5 Turbo)
N°20 Driano-Juillot(Citroën Visa 1000 Pistes)
N°21 Hampis-Mavridis(Ford Escort RS 2000)
N°22 Gooding-Arthur(Rover 3500)
N°23 Toivonen-Wrède(Fiat Ritmo Abarth)
N°24 Rayneri-Pirollo(Fiat Ritmo Abarth)
N°25 Fabbri-Amati(Fiat Ritmo Abarth)
N°26 ??
N°27 ??
N°28 ??
N°29 ??
N°30 ??

Do you have full entry list ?
mlanders@orange.fr

harriswrc
12th January 2011, 21:41
Halkidikis 1985

N°1 Biasion-Siviero(Lancia Rally)
N°2 Ragnotti-Thimonier(R Maxi 5 Turbo)
N°3 Demuth-Radaelli(Audi Quattro)
N°4 ??
N°5 Zanussi-Cresto(Lancia Rally)
N°6 Moschous-Fertakis(Nissan 240 RS)
N°7 Pregliasco-Cianci(Lancia Rally)
N°8 ??
N°9 Fernandez-Orozco(Opel Manta 400)
N°10 Stratissino-Sassalos(Nissan 240 RS)
N°11 Laveris-Konstantakatos(Ford Escort RS 1800)
N°12 ??
N°14 ??
N°15 ??
N°16 Jigger-Stefanis(Audi Quattro)
N°17 Kalemtzakis-Nakis(Opel Ascona 400)
N°18 Melas-Mantzagriotis(Lancia Rally)
N°19 Kuzmic-Sali(R 5 Turbo)
N°20 Driano-Juillot(Citroën Visa 1000 Pistes)
N°21 Hampis-Mavridis(Ford Escort RS 2000)
N°22 Gooding-Arthur(Rover 3500)
N°23 Toivonen-Wrède(Fiat Ritmo Abarth)
N°24 Rayneri-Pirollo(Fiat Ritmo Abarth)
N°25 Fabbri-Amati(Fiat Ritmo Abarth)
N°26 ??
N°27 ??
N°28 ??
N°29 ??
N°30 ??

Do you have full entry list ?
mlanders@orange.fr

No4 Kaby (Nissan 240 RS) (did not start)
No11 Terzian- Theofanous (Nissan 240 RS)
No14 "Iaveris"-Konstantakatos(Ford Escort RS 1800)
No15 Mavropoulos- Adams (Audi Quattro)
No8 or No12 "Leonidas"- Halaris (Renault 11 Turbo) (did not start)

Other starters (some of them between 25-30)
G. Hicks (Nissan 240 RS)
Czekal (Opel Manta 400)
Kocibey (Mitsubishi Turbo)
Bublewicz- Żyszkowski (FSO Polonez 2000)
Apostolou- Kriadis (VW Golf GTI)
Tsobanopoulos- Tsolakis (Opel Ascona)

And here a video of the rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3qtZxDIn2U

cvhi
13th January 2011, 13:35
Thank you HarrisWRC for your help

sednem
14th January 2011, 01:08
Missing a lot of results for ERC 1982:

Jänner : 4-10
Arctic : 3-10
Boucles de Spa : 2-10
Galway : 2-10
Sachs Winter : 2-10
Hankiralli : 4-10
Garrigues : 4-10
Saarland : 2-10
Circuit of Ireland : 2-10
Alpin : 6-10
ARBÖ : 2-10
Quattro Regioni : 5-10
Haspengouw : 5-10
Scottish : 7-10
Hessen : 2-10
Donau : 2-10
Ypres : 4-10
Ciocco : 2-10
Skoda : 2-10
Madeira : 5-10
Halkidikis : 6-10
Lucien Bianchi : 2-10
Tatry : 2-10
Manx : 2-10
Cyprus : 7-10
Vin/Valais:2-10
Antibes : 9-10
Algarve : 2-10
San Marino 3-10

San Marino Rally was scheduled for Oct 22, but seem that it happened after Algarve (in November), somedy has the right date?

Thanks
Américo.

RobertS
14th January 2011, 08:19
Missing a lot of results for ERC 1982:

Donau : 2-10

Thanks
Américo.

2. Soots – Putmaker SU Lada-1600 14202p.
3. Bolsih – Bolsih SU Lada-1600 14264p.
4. Kolev – Ignatov BG Renault-5Alpine 14449p.
5. Pech – Janecek CS Skoda-130RS 14526p.
6.
7.
8.
9. László Szuhanyik – Tibor Hóman H Lada-1600 15049p.


Skoda : 2-10

http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1551/1982a.jpg

cvhi
14th January 2011, 09:26
Boucles De Spa 1982

2 Droogmans Geron Ford Escort à 5'19
3 Everett Colebunders Vauxhall Chevette à 8'59
4 Plas Nijs Fiat Ritmo à 22'37
5 Coppier Lalloz Citroen Visa à 27'59
6 Peters Lambert Ford Escort à 32'36
7 Delettre Fraikin Ford Escort à 33'07
8 Hendrickx Borremans Opel Manta à 33'26
9 Denis Delvenne Ford Escort à 33'45
10 Vandermaesen Aerts Opel Ascona à 35'50

Juha
14th January 2011, 09:35
Missing a lot of results for ERC 1982:

Haspengouw : 5-10

1 #2 Bastos Opel Rally Team - Guy Colsoul / Alain Lopes (B) - Scuderia Lovaniensis - Opel Ascona 400
2 #3 Andrews - Russell Brookes / Ronan Morgan (GB/IRL) - Vauxhall Chevette HSR 2300
3 #10 Belga Castrol Team - Marc Duez / Willy Lux (B) - Duindistel - Porsche 911 SC
4 #11 Nissan Team - Jean-Louis Dumont Lambert Peeters (B) - Hesbaye - Datsun Violet GT
5 #17 Duindistel - Paul Lietaer / "Rossi" (B) - Duindistel - Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
6 #14 Bastos Luigi R.T. - Patrick Snijers / Georges Van Oosten (B) MAC Heusden - BMW 323i
7 #25 Scuderia Lovaniensis - Hubert Colsoul / ??? Dewolfs (B) - Scuderia Lovaniensis - Opel Ascona 400
8 #36 Scuderia Lovaniensis - Jan de Boey / Luc Dierickx (B) - Scuderia Lovaniensis - Opel Ascona 2000i
9 #26 Lugano Racing Team - ??? Graf / ??? Berthoud (CH) - L.R.T. - Renault 5 Turbo
10 #24 C.H. Dickhout - John Bestebreurtje / Bob Dickhout (NL) - Rally Club Holland - Mitsubishi Lancer Turbo

Shacki
14th January 2011, 12:50
Tatry 1982

Steve Boyd
14th January 2011, 21:35
Thanks Juha - that's what I was starting to think after finding a list of winners from previous years and seeing that Patrick Snijers won the 31st 1988 Boucles de Spa in a BMW M3.

However, I cannot understand how a Group A Rover Vitesse - which had been banned from International rallying from 31 December 1986 along with the Group B cars - would be allowed to enter the 1988 event?

Doesn't vérifié mean verify in English, or scrutineer in rallying terms? If it has a scrutineering sticker in the window, surely it mut have competed on the rally - or am I mistaken?

Does anyone have an entry list for the 31st 1988 Boucles de Spa?

Many thanks again for your help!
Could it be car number 31 from an earlier year?

Steve Boyd
14th January 2011, 21:49
Missing a lot of results for ERC 1982:

Manx : 2-10


From 25 Years of the Manx Rally by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton:
1982 (September 16-18), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Jimmy McRae/Ian Grindrod (Opel Ascona 400) 5h 00m 25s
2 Russell Brookes/Mike Broad (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 5h 02m 54s
3 Bertie Fisher/Austin Frazer (Ford Escort RS1800) 5h 12m 23s
4 Malcolm Patrick/Phil Short (Opel Ascona 400) 5h 13m 46s
5 Ian Tilke/Tony McMahon (Ford Escort RS) 5h 25m 30s
6 John Price/D. Davies (Renault 5 Turbo) 5h 33m 03s
7 Robin Farrington/Martin Wasley (Ford Escort RS) 5h 35m 01s
8 Theo Bengry/James Watkins (Opel Ascona 400) 5h 38m 04s
9 Martin Freestone/John Gittins (Ford Escort) 5h 39m 07s
10 Mike Hutchinson/Nigel Harris (Ford Escort) 5h 39m 16s

MG Rally
14th January 2011, 22:08
Could it be car number 31 from an earlier year?
It could easily be Steve, but without a year to go on I'm at a bit of a loss really. All I would suggest is that it could be 1985 as the car in question was used on the Brtish Open Championship and Ypres that year.

So if anybody has either 1985 / 1986 / 1987 / 1988 Boucles de Spa entry list I would be pleased if they would scan and upload it. Many thanks.

sednem
15th January 2011, 10:24
It could easily be Steve, but without a year to go on I'm at a bit of a loss really. All I would suggest is that it could be 1985 as the car in question was used on the Brtish Open Championship and Ypres that year.

So if anybody has either 1985 / 1986 / 1987 / 1988 Boucles de Spa entry list I would be pleased if they would scan and upload it. Many thanks.

Hi,

My little "CSI" contribution...
In the plate there is "Boucles de SPA-Alphonse Delettre"... According to my data base, "Boucles de SPA" naming is:
1953 to 1966 "Rallye des Routes Blanches"
1967 to 1987 "Boucles de Spa"
1988 to 2004 "Boucles de Spa-Alphonse Delettre"
So, I think, this photo has been taken after 1988...

Regards
Américo.

MG Rally
15th January 2011, 17:05
Hi,

My little "CSI" contribution...
In the plate there is "Boucles de SPA-Alphonse Delettre"... According to my data base, "Boucles de SPA" naming is:
1953 to 1966 "Rallye des Routes Blanches"
1967 to 1987 "Boucles de Spa"
1988 to 2004 "Boucles de Spa-Alphonse Delettre"
So, I think, this photo has been taken after 1988...

Regards
Américo.
Many thanks Américo for explaining the different event names over the years. So the 'Alphonse Delettre' part was only used between 1988 and 2004? The scrutineering sticker has the number '31' on it which means that the Group A Rover Vitesse must have passed scrutineering for the 1988 31st Boucles de Spa - Alphonse Delettre - which is what you said on the previous page isn't it Juha?

However, I STILL cannot understand how a Group A Rover Vitesse - which had been banned from International rallying from 31 December 1986 along with the Group B cars - would be allowed to enter the 1988 event?

Here is the sticker again...

http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/4307/bouclesdespa.jpg

Does anyone have an entry list for the 1988 31st Boucles de Spa - Alphonse Delettre? :rolleyes:

Thank you again everyone for your help - I think I'm getting somewhere, almost...

Steve Boyd
16th January 2011, 10:57
If the car could not compete could it have been used as a course car? If it had been a '0' car it would have had to pass safety checks before the start & may have been issued with a scrutineering sticker, but I'm not sure whether use of a car inelligible for competition would have been permitted as a course car.

MG Rally
16th January 2011, 11:09
Good morning Steve,

There are some very valid points you have raised there!... ;)

I am unsure of the legalities of using a banned Group A car as course car, or your point of whether it would actually need scrutineering at all. I suppose the more you think about the latter, then the more it would make sense to scrutineer the car in question.

What I cannot understand though is that nobody - not only on this forum, but also assorted dedicated Belgian and French rally forums! - hasn't got a 1988 entry list or any photos of the car?

There are plenty of photos of Snijers winning M3 from that year - although I appreciate that a privateer in a aged Rover is somewhat different to a Belgian hero in a state-of-the-art Group A car! :rolleyes: It just seems strange that all I can find is the above sticker on the actual car and nothing else.

Has anybody even got any 1988 Belgian rally books with the entry list or event report inside?

Many thanks for your input,

David

cvhi
18th January 2011, 21:02
I search entry list about MANX Rally 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1984, perhaps someone help me ?

Thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr

januszsz
21st January 2011, 20:08
Donau 1982
2. Valo Soots – Toomas Putmaker SU Lada-1600 14202p.
3. Nikolai Bolsih – Igor Bolsih SU Lada-1600 14264p.
4. Stoyan Kolev – Boyko Ignatov BG Renault-5Alpine 14449p.
5. Vaclav Pech – Jiri Janecek CS Skoda-130RS 14526p.
6. Georgi Petrov/Ivan Tonev-BG-R5 Alpine 14589p
7. Tomasz Ciecierzynski/Ryszard Zyszkowski-PL-Polonez 2000 14848p
8. Andrzej Koper/Wlodzimierz Krzeminski-PL-R5 Alpine 14936p
9. László Szuhanyik – Tibor Hóman H Lada-1600 15049p
10. Gheorghe Urdea/Dacian Banca-RO-Dacia 1300 15319p
regards
Janusz

RobertS
21st January 2011, 20:42
Donau 1982
Valo Soots –
Vallo
http://www.rally.ee/?a=a030&b=217

januszsz
21st January 2011, 21:35
Jänner : 4-10
4. Rudi Stohl/Kurt Modlhammer-A-Lada 1600
5. Walter Egger/? Koller-A-Golf GTI
6. Shekhar Mehta/Yvonne Mehta-EAK-Datsun 160J
7. Jurgen? Freisler/Monica Eckhardt-D-911SC
8. F. Besenbeck/W. Besenbeck-?-Escort RS
9. ? Six/? Grabner-?-Escort RS
10. Walter Osterer/Wolfgang? Seifreid-A-Escort RS
Arctic : 3-10
3. Mika Arpiainen/Timo Hantunen-FIN-Escort RS
4. Timo Makela/Kalevi Paive-FIN-Sunbeam Lotus
5. Kalevi Aho/Carl-Johan Wolff-FIN-Escort RS
6. Jouni Kinnunen/Esko Hokkanen-FIN-Escort RS
7. Hannu Valtaharju/ ? Piirto-FIN-Escort RS
8. Harri Vaananen/Timo Tuominen-FIN-Escort RS
9. Harri Uotila/Timi Leino-FIN-Escort RS
10. Mika Sillankorva/Juhani Nieminen-FIN-Escort RS
Galway : 2-10
2. Gerry Buckley/John Caplice-IRL-Ascona 400
3. John Coyne/Christy Farrell-IRL-Sunbeam Lotus
4. Brendan Fagan/? Johnson-IRL/?-Chevette HSR
5. Austin McHale/John McGee-IRL-Chevette HSR
6. ? Henry/Ronan McNamee-?-Escort RS
7. ? Fitzgerald/?Whyte-?-Chevette HSR
8. Vincent Bonner/Michael Bonner-?-Escort RS
9. Noel Smith/Ian Turkington-GB-911SC
10. ? McCauley/? Robinson-?-Chevette HS
Sachs Winter : 2-10
2. Manfred Hero/Dietmar Muller-D-911SC
3. Jens Ole Kristiansen/Fred Hartwigsen-DK-Ascona 400
4. Rolf Petersen/Andre Bockelmann-D-Escort RS1800
5. Michael Werner/Egon Meurer-D-Taunus XR6
6. Erwin Weber/Matthias Berg-D-Ascona
7. Harald Demuth/Arwed Fischer-D-Quattro
8. Norbert Brauer/? Eugel-D-Golf GTI
9. Friedhelm Kissel/Reinhard Michel-D-Golf GTI
10. ? Nies/? Siems-?-Quattro
Hankiralli : 4-10
4. Harri Uotila/Timi Leino-FIN-Escort RS
5. Jouni Kinnunen/Esko Hokkanen-FIN-Escort RS
6. Harri Vaananen/Timo Tuominen-FIN-Escort RS
7. Hannu Valtaharju/ ? Piirto-FIN-Escort RS
8. Hannu Temonen/? Tarkkala-FIN-Escort RS
9. Olli Mertsalmi/Juhani Nieminen-FIN-Escort RS
10. Teemu Tahko/Erkki Tahko-FIN-Ascona
Garrigues : 4-10
4. Bernard Beguin/Jean-Francois Fauchille-F-911SC
5. Francois Chatriot/Annick Peuvergne-F-R5 Turbo
6. ? Dayraut/? Austruy-?-911SC
7. Jean-Philippe Touren/? Luret-F-R5 Turbo
8. Jean-Claude Sola/? Lecorre-F-R5 Turbo
9. Jean-Sebastien Couloumies/Claudine Causse-F-Manta GT/E
10. Alain? Errani/? Giraud-F-Manta GT/E
Saarland : 2-10
2. Jochi Kleint/Gunter Wanger-D-Ascona 400
3. Holger Bohne/Adolf Ahrens-D-Escort RS1800
4. Wolfgang Rausch/Klaus Hopfe-D-Ascona 400
5. Friedhelm Kissel/Reinhard Michel-D-Golf GTI
6. Erwin Weber/Matthias Berg-D-Ascona 2000
7. Michael Werner/Egon Meurer-D-Taunus XR6
8. Flemming Laubjerg/? Witzmann-DK/?-Escort RS
9. Josef Brack/Martin Brack-D-911SC
10. ? Boudier/Guido Horsch-?/D-Kadett GT/E
Circuit of Ireland : 2-10
2. Russell Brookes/Mike Broad-GB-Chevette HSR
3. Henri Toivonen/Fred Gallagher-FIN/GB-Ascona 400
4. John Coyne/Christy Farrell-IRL-Sunbeam Lotus
5. Billy Coleman/Brendan Neville-IRL-Escort RS1800
6. Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz-FIN/S-Quattro
7. Ari Vatanen/Neil Wilson-FIN/GB-Escort RS1800
8. Gerry Buckley/John Caplice-IRL-Ascona 400
9. ? Henry/Ronan McNamee-?-Escort RS
10. John Price/Hugh Wylie-GB-R5 Turbo
Alpin : 6-10
6. Christian Gardavot/Colette?? Neri-F-911SC
7. Jean-Louis Le Dentu/? Abbes-F-Sunbeam Lotus
8. Jean-Sebastien Couloumies/Jean-Bernard Vieu-F-Manta GT/E
9. Tycho van Dijk/Bernard Occelli-CH/F-911SC
10. Alain Oreille/Sylvie Oreille-F-Kadett GT/E
ARBÖ : 2-10
2. Gerhard Kalnay/Ferdi Hinterleitner-A-Ascona 400
3. Georg Fischer/Michael Weinzierl-A-Ascona 400
4. Wilfried Wiedner/Franz Zehetner-A-Audi 80 Coupe
5. Werner Grissmann/Peter Vogel-A/?-Ascona 400
6. ? Waller/? Grosslhuber-?-Escort RS
7. ? Dippolt/? Endres-?-Kadett GT/E
8. ? Springer/? Kolar-?-Golf GTI
9. S. Karasek/? Kronreif-A/?-Escort RS
10. Walter Osterer/Wolfgang? Seifreid-A-Escort RS
Quattro Regioni : 5-10
5. Federico Ormezzano/Claudio Berro-I-Sunbeam Lotus
6. Gabriele Noberasco/Andrea Ulivi-I-131 Abarth
7. Malcolm Wilson/Phil Short-GB-Escort RS1800
8. Amedeo Gerbino/Alessandro Cavalleri-I-Kadett GT/E
9. ? Musti/? Fiori-I-131 Abarth
10. Antonella Mandelli/F. Maggi-I-131 Abarth
Scottish : 7-10
7. Per Eklund/David Whittock-S/GB-Celica
8. Ken Wood/? Brown-GB-TR8
9. ? Lyons/Ian McFarland-GB-Sunbeam Lotus
10. ? Lyle/? Kelly-?-Chevette HS
Hessen : 2-10
2. Harald Demuth/Arwed Fischer-D-Quattro
3. Sepp Haider/Jorg Pattermann-A-Ascona 400
4. Wolfgang Rausch/Klaus Hopfe-D-Ascona 400
5. Alfons Stock/Paul Schmuck-D-Golf GTI
6. Erwin Weber/Matthias Berg-D-Ascona
7. Manfred Hero/Dietmar Muller-D-911 Turbo
8. Holger Bohne/Adolf Ahrens-D-Escort RS1800
9. Jens Ole Kristiansen/Fred Hartwigsen-DK-Ascona 400
10. Lasse Lampi/Pentti Kuukkala-FIN-Escort RS
Ypres : 4-10
4. Jean-Louis Dumont/Lambert Peeters-B-Violet GT
5. Jan van der Marel/Bruno van Traa-NL-Sunbeam Lotus
6. Patrick Snijers/Georges van Oosten-B-BMW 323i
7. Gaby Goudezeune/Serge Messine-B-Ascona 400
8. Paul Lietaer/"Rossi"-B-Sunbeam Lotus
9. Valerie Vandermaesen/Julien Aerts-B-Ascona
10. Jean-Philippe Touren/Hennebel Lionel-F/B-R5 Turbo
Ciocco : 2-10
2. "Tony"/"Rudy"-I-Ascona 400
3. Adartico Vudafieri/Maurizio Perissinot-I-Rally 037
4. Federico Ormezzano/Claudio Berro-I-Sunbeam Lotus
5. Fabrizio Tabaton/Luciano Tedeschini-I-Stratos HF
6. Fulvio Bacchelli/Paolo Spollon-I-Rally 037
7. Michele Cinotto/Emilio Radaelli-I-Quattro
8. ? Barbero/Mario Necco-I-Rally 037
9. Carlo Capone/Luigi Pirollo-I-Ritmo Abarth
10. Amedeo Gerbino/Alessandro Cavalleri-I-Kadett GT/E
Madeira : 5-10
5. Manuel Gomes Pereira/L. Nobre-P-R5 Turbo
6. Marco Abreu/? Silva-P-Escort RS
7. Geoff Fielding/Frank Rowlands-GB-Escort RS1800
8. Antonella Mandelli/Tiziana Borghi-I-131 Abarth
9. Louise Aitken/Ellen Morgan-GB-Fiesta 1600
10. Jorge Ortigao/Luis Alegria-P-Starlet
Halkidikis : 6-10
6. "Benni"/Kostas Stefanis-GR-Stratos HF
7. Vasilis Tsobanopoulos/Ioannis Tsolakis-GR-Kadett GT/E
8. Manolis Halivelakis/Kostas Exarhos-GR-Corolla
9. ? Raptopoulos/Nikos Generalis-GR-911SC
10. ? Davaris/? Giaglis-GR-Sunny
Lucien Bianchi : 2-10
2. Simon Everett/Dany Colebunders-GB/B-Chevette HSR
3. Terry Kaby/Rob Arthur-GB-Chevette HSR
4. Jean-Louis Dumont/Lambert Peeters-B-Violet GT
5. Patrick Snijers/Georges van Oosten-B-BMW 323i
6. B. Mathon/? Desurmont-B-R5 Turbo
7. Aly Kridel/Paul Dunkel-L-Escort RS1800
8. Alain & Sylvie Oreille-F-Kadett GT/E
9. Guy Hendrickx/Jose Lareppe-B-Manta GT/E
10. J.C. Godart/J. Godart-B-Ascona 400
Cyprus : 7-10
7. Maros Shakalis/? Christodoulides-CY-104ZS
8. Tasos Gemenis/Ioannis Kepetzis-GR-160J
9. Takis Panayides/? Karalis-CY-Subaru 1600
10. Kokos Assiotis/? Andreou-CY-104ZS
Vin/Valais:2-10
2. Chris Carron/Philippe Anttile-CH-911 Turbo
3. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopes-B-Ascona 400
4. Jean-Louis Dumont/Lamber Peeters-B-Violet GT
5. Eric Chapuis/Serge Racine-CH-911SC
6. Jean Robert Corthay/Bruno Reali-CH-911SC
7. Angelo Caverzazio/Roger Krattiger-CH-Porsche 930 Turbo
8. Erwin Keller/Ronny Hofmann-CH-Corolla
9. Reynald Menghini/? Altmann-CH-Violet
10. Michel Maye/Patrick Luisier-CH-Kadett GT/E
Antibes : 9-10
9. "Tchine"/Patricia Trivero-MC-Ascona 400
10. Pierre Latrigue/? Bougeatre-F-104ZS
Algarve : 2-10
2. Jose Pedro Borges/Rui Bevilacqua-P-Escort RS1800
3. Francisco Romaozinho/Luis Alegria-P-Visa Trophee
4. Olivier Tabatoni-Michel Cadier+F-Visa Trophee
5. Jacques Dubert-Christian Tortelli-F-104ZS
6. Inverno Amaral/Joaquim Neto-P-Visa SX
7. ? Cros/? Jalabert-F-104ZS
8. Jorge Ortigao/Joao Batista-P-Starlet
9. Jose Moreno/Antonio Pereira-P-Kadett 1,3
10. ? Cavalier/? Dehoux-?-Subaru AF5 4x4
San Marino 3-10 11-14 November
3. Dario Cerrato/Giuseppe Cerri-I-Ascona 400
4. "Iaveris"/Andreas Arkentis-GR-Ascona 400
5. Bruno Bentivogli/Sante Valbonetti Arcangeli-RSM/I-AR GTV6
6. Franco Corradin/Paolo Zami-I-131 Abarth
7. Paolo Fabrizio Fabbri/Paolo Cecchini-I-Ritmo 75
8. Matthias Moosleitner/Margit Tuchler-D-Ascona 400
9. Vittorio Caneva/Bruno Scabini-I-Visa Trophee
10. "Pau"/Loris Roggia-I-131 Abarth

Regards
Janusz

lennyz
22nd January 2011, 12:48
Hello
I'm trying to establish full list of stage winners for WRC.
Does someone have detailed information about stage winners (+ documents if possible) of following rallies :
- Poland 1973
- Press-on-Regardless 1974
- Sanremo 1974
- Sweden 1975
- Acropolis 1975
- Sanremo 1975
- Sweden 1981
- Brazil 1981

Thanks
Bruno

DIMI44
22nd January 2011, 22:14
Hello
I'm trying to establish full list of stage winners for WRC.

- Acropolis 1975

Thanks
Bruno

1.DEKELIA 13.81klm.Waldegard/Thorselius STRATOS 9.58
2.RITSONA 8.40 klm. Waldegard 4.49
3.DROSSIA 17.90klm.Waldegard 10.50
4.LOUKISSIA 7.10 klm.Anderson/Hertz COROLLA 4.11
5.DISTOMO 12.82 klm.Waldegard 9.57
6.ERATINI 11.45 klm Waldegard 7.37
7.MALANDRINO 4.70 klm.Aderson 2.53
8.KAROUTES 20 klm. Waldegard 16.46
9.KALOSKOPI 18.80 klm. Waldegard 16.43
10.INICHORI 9.19 klm. Waldegard 8.30
11.MOSCHOKARIA 10.02 klm. Waldegard 9.08
12.MACRYRACHI 15.95 klm. Warmbold /Davenport COROLLA 12.12
13.ASPROCLISSIA 28.00 klm. Rohrl /Berger ASCONA 21.49
14.ELATI 27.30 klm. Rohrl 18.56
15.ALIAKMON 15.04 klm. Waldegard 13.20
16.KATO VERMION 37.35 klm.Waldegard 29.36
17.POLYDENDRI 14.40 klm. Waldegard 12.05
18.SYCAMINEA 13.62 klm. Rohrl 11.46
19.DESKATI 21.81 klm. Waldegard 16.10
20. SMOKOVO 6.82 klm. Aaltonen ASCONA 5.26
21.FOURNA 30.43 klm. Waldegard 31.04
22.TSOUKA 6.51 klm. Waldegard 6.19
23.PAVLIANI 15.31 klm. Waldegard 11.10
24.KAROUTES 20.05 klm. Waldegard 16.20
25.DISTOMO II 12.22 klm. Waldegard 10.04
26.PLATANAKI 7.03 klm. Waldegard 4.40
27.SCROPONERIA 13.05 klm. Waldegard 6.15
28.RITSONA 6.50 klm. Waldegard 3.57
29.AVLONA 13.81 klm. Waldegard 10.29
30.ALEPOCHORI 5.38 klm. Waldegard 3.57
31.SCHINOS 12.4 klm. Waldegard 10.24
32.SOULI 9.27 klm. Waldegard 6.35
33.ZEMENO 8.17 klm. Waldegard 6.25
34.EVROSTINA 38.00 klm. Waldegard 31.00
35.LALAS 11.77 klm. Rohrl 11.33
36.CHELIDONI 7.43 klm. Warmbold 6.52
37.LADONAS 23.10 klm. Rohrl 17.17
38.ELATI 26.05 klm.Rohrl 19.13
39.HELLINIKON 6.40 klm.Rohrl 5.12
40.LEONTARION 7.20 klm. Rohrl 5.42
41.GEORGITSI 6.40 klm. Rohrl 5.12
42.KONIDITSA 6.00 klm. Rohrl 6.17
43.VRESTHENA 5.30 klm." SIROCO"/ANDRIOPOULOS ALPIN RENAULT 4.30
44.VRESTHENA II 10.05 klm. Rohrl 10.13
45.VAMVAKOU 12.75 klm. 11.59
46.VOURVOURA 19.32 klm. Rohrl 15.55
47.ASTROS 13.10 klm. Rohrl 12.03
48.EPIDAURUS 14.50 Rohrl 12.10

From a Greek auto magazine.

Best Regards
Dimitris

BDunnell
23rd January 2011, 11:52
Here is a history-related question which, for some reason, has come to mind in recent days. In which group, A or B, did the Audi 80 Quattros entered by the works for Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and by Audi Sport UK for various drivers (mainly Harald Demuth, but also Darryl Weidner and Andrew Cowan) on the 1983 British Open Championship run?

I ask because I had always thought these were Group A cars; indeed, for instance, the narration on the ITV report of the 1983 Ulster Rally stated: 'Running against him [Per Eklund] in Group A is Harald Demuth's four-wheel-drive Audi 80 Quattro'. However, other video reviews of the 1983 British rounds do not talk of the 80 Quattro as being in Group A against Eklund's Corolla, Chris Lord's Mazda, the Escort RS1600is and so on (for example, here — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqeEdBwol7w — where it is stated that Louise Aitken and Lord were contending the Group A lead at a point before Demuth retired). Also, both here — http://www.juwra.com/sweden_1983_entries.html — and here — http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=253 — Blomqvist's Sweden entry is given as being part of Group B. Yet a privateer Group A 80 Quattro is listed amongst the finishers on the 1983 1000 Lakes, and subsequent examples of the type, such as Mikael Ericsson's, were always Group A cars. I'd be most interested to read an explanation! Are those sources that have the 1983 works cars as being Group B just mistaken, or is there another reason?

januszsz
23rd January 2011, 12:16
Here is a history-related question which, for some reason, has come to mind in recent days. In which group, A or B, did the Audi 80 Quattros entered by the works for Stig Blomqvist in Sweden and by Audi Sport UK for various drivers (mainly Harald Demuth, but also Darryl Weidner and Andrew Cowan) on the 1983 British Open Championship run?

I ask because I had always thought these were Group A cars; indeed, for instance, the narration on the ITV report of the 1983 Ulster Rally stated: 'Running against him [Per Eklund] in Group A is Harald Demuth's four-wheel-drive Audi 80 Quattro'. However, other video reviews of the 1983 British rounds do not talk of the 80 Quattro as being in Group A against Eklund's Corolla, Chris Lord's Mazda, the Escort RS1600is and so on (for example, here — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqeEdBwol7w — where it is stated that Louise Aitken and Lord were contending the Group A lead at a point before Demuth retired). Also, both here — http://www.juwra.com/sweden_1983_entries.html — and here — http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=253 — Blomqvist's Sweden entry is given as being part of Group B. Yet a privateer Group A 80 Quattro is listed amongst the finishers on the 1983 1000 Lakes, and subsequent examples of the type, such as Mikael Ericsson's, were always Group A cars. I'd be most interested to read an explanation! Are those sources that have the 1983 works cars as being Group B just mistaken, or is there another reason?
According to M. Holmes' "Wold of Rallying 6" (report of Swedish Rally 1983): "The rally was so clearly expected to ba an Audi benefit the only point of interest at the top of the field was which of their drivers would win, or more pertinently, how much of a handicap Blomqvist would find the 80 Quattro to be. The 80 Quattro was inportant because of what would happen later in the year when the model would be homologated in group A. It would be promoted by the factory as the recommended car for national teams and privateers to run". Sweidish Rally 1983 was the first major rally for Audi 80 Quattro. It was run in group B. Later that year July 1st 1983 Audi 80 Quattro was homologated as a group A car under homologation number A5156.
Regards
Janusz

sednem
23rd January 2011, 13:01
Hi,

Thanks everibody for your input to 1982 ERC results...
Some "corrections" or questions regarding those results



Arctic : Hannu Valtaharju/Esa Piirto-FIN-Escort RS
Hankiralli : Hannu Valtaharju/Esa Piirto-FIN-Escort RS
Garrigues : Jean-Claude Dayraut/J-F. Austruy-?-911SC
Garrigues : Jean-Philippe Touren/? Luret-F-R5 Turbo (I knew Philippe Touren - pretty good french driver, running with R5T in earlyes 80's, is this Jean-Philippe the same one???, wich is the correct first name?)
Garrigues : Jean-Claude Sola/Dominique Lecorre-F-R5 Turbo (I have fund diferent results with either Dominique Lecorre or Dominique le Corre as Sola's co-driver, I'm assuming this is the same person, but anyone knows the correct spelling???)
Garrigues : Alain Errani/Michel Giraud-F-Manta GT/E
Alpin : Jean-Louis Le Dentu/Gérard Abbes-F-Sunbeam Lotus
ARBÖ : Norbert Springer/? Kolar-?-Golf GTI
Quattro Regioni : Filippo Musti/Giuseppe Fiori-I-131 Abarth
Quattro Regioni : Antonella Mandelli/Fiorella Maggi-I-131 Abarth
Scottish : Robin Lyons/Ian McFarland-GB-Sunbeam Lotus
Scottish : Bruce Lyle/Andy Kelly-?-Chevette HS
Ypres : Valerie Vandermaesen/Julien Aerts-B-Ascona (The driver must be Valère Vandermaesen)
Ypres : Jean-Philippe Touren/Hennebel Lionel-F/B-R5 Turbo (Same quest as for Garrigues...)
Madeira : Manuel Gomes Pereira/José Nobre-P-R5 Turbo (Co-driver's full name is: José Lemos Nobre)
Madeira : Marco Abreu/Rui Silva-P-Escort RS
Lucien Bianchi : Bernard Mathon/Gilles Desurmont-B-R5 Turbo
Lucien Bianchi : Jean-Claude Godart/J. Godart-B-Ascona 400
Antibes : Pierre Latrigue/? Bougeatre-F-104ZS (Pierre Lartigue/M. Bougeatre)
Janusz

Can you fill some missing results for 1983 ERC...
Jänner : 4-10
Artic : 3-10
Hankiralli :2-10
Sachs Winter : 2-10
Saarland : 3-10
ARBÖ : 2-10
Haspengouw : 2-10
Volta Galp a Portugal : 2-10
Hessen : 2-10
Scottish : 4-10
Donau: 2-10
Skoda : 2-10
Lucien Bianchi : 2-10
Hebros : 2-10
Tatry : 3-10
Manx : 2-10
Vin/Valais : 3-10
Algarve : 3-10
Aosta : 4-10

About 1983, Initially there was 49 rallys in ERC schedule, I have only 44... :(
Gallway, Elba, Ciocco and CS seems to be deleted. But for Gunaidyn (TUR) I don't have any information... only appears in the 83 schedulle and then nothing... Was it also deleted??? If not somebody have the top10 results???
Many thanks, best regards.
Américo.

sednem
23rd January 2011, 13:11
From a Greek auto magazine.

Best Regards
Dimitris

Hi Dimi,

I'm also interested in that kind of stuff...
Do you have also the different legs, SS per leg, start and ending towns, leg distances...

Thanks.
Best Regards.
Américo.

BDunnell
23rd January 2011, 13:42
According to M. Holmes' "Wold of Rallying 6" (report of Swedish Rally 1983): "The rally was so clearly expected to ba an Audi benefit the only point of interest at the top of the field was which of their drivers would win, or more pertinently, how much of a handicap Blomqvist would find the 80 Quattro to be. The 80 Quattro was inportant because of what would happen later in the year when the model would be homologated in group A. It would be promoted by the factory as the recommended car for national teams and privateers to run". Sweidish Rally 1983 was the first major rally for Audi 80 Quattro. It was run in group B. Later that year July 1st 1983 Audi 80 Quattro was homologated as a group A car under homologation number A5156.
Regards
Janusz

That's most interesting — thanks. So, it was correct to say that Demuth was running in Group A in Ulster. Mystery solved!

Steve Boyd
23rd January 2011, 16:30
I search entry list about MANX Rally 1977, 1978, 1979, 1981, 1984, perhaps someone help me ?

Thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr
Hi Christophe
The book "25 Years of the Manx Rally" by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton does not have full entry lists but does give the first 10 & one or two extra notable entries. I have copied the details below from the book:

1977, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Penti Airikkala/Risto Virtanen (Vauxhall Chevette 2300) 1st
2 Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz (Toyota Celica) retired - accident
3 Bror Danielsson/Ulf Sunberg (Opel Kadett GT/E) retired - crown wheel
4 Billy Coleman/? (Lancia Stratos) did not start
5 Russell Brookes/John Brown (Ford Escort RS1800) retired - engine
6 Tony Pond/fred Gallagher (Triumph TR7) retired - engine
7 Brian Nelson/Malcolm Neil (Porsche Carrera) retired - damage follwing accident
8 Andy Dawson/Stuart Pegg (Ford Escort RS1800) 3rd
9 Chris Sclater/Martin Holmes (Vauxhall Chevette 2300) retired - engine
10 John Taylor/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800) 10th
11 Brian Culcheth/Johnstone Syer (Triumph TR7) 2nd
12 Nigel Rockey/Derek Tucker (?) did not start
-
15 Ian Corkill/Janet Welldon (Porsche Carrera) 5th


1978, start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Penti Airikkala/Risto Virtanen (Vauxhall Chevette 2300) OTL
2 Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz (Ford Escort RS1800) retired - accident
3 Russell Brookes/Peter Bryant (Ford Escort RS1800)
4 Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS1800) 4th
5 Tony Pond/Fred Gallagher (Triumph TR7 V8) 1st
6 Maurizio Verini/Arnaldo Bernachini (Fiat 131 Abarth) 5th
7 Kyosti Hämäläinen/Phil Boland (Ford Escort RS1800) retired - engine
8 John Taylor/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800) 2nd
9 Jimmy McRae/Ian Muir (Vauxhall Chevette 2300)
10 Derek Boyd/Roy Kernaghan (Triumph TR7 V8) retired - no oil pressure
11 Brian Nelson/Terry Harryman (Porsche Carrera) 3rd

1979 (September 14-15), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Penti Airikkala/Risto Virtanen (Vauxhall Chevette 2300) retired - accident
2 Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz (Ford Escort RS1800) retired - steering
3 Stig Blomqvist/Bjorn Cederberg (Saab 99 Turbo) retired - driveshaft
4 Russell Brookes/Paul White (Ford Escort RS1800) 1st
5 Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Fiesta) retired - clutch
6 Tony Pond/Ian Grindrod (Talbot Sunbeam Lotus) retired - engine
7 John Taylor/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800)
8 Henri Toivonen/Bryan Harris (Ford Escort RS1800) retired - ignition
9 Alan Carter/Dave West (Ford Escort RS2000) 9th
10 Derek Boyd/Roy Kernaghan (Triumph TR7 V8)

1981 (September 11-12), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Walter Rohrl/Christian Geistdorfer (Porsche 911SC) retired - driveshaft
2 did not start
3 Tony Pond/Mike Nicholson (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 1st
4 Penti Airikkala/Risto Virtanen (Ford Escort RS1800) retired - accident
5 Per Eklund/Ragnar Spjuth (Toyota Celica GT) retired - engine
6 Jimmy McRae/Ian Grindrod (Opel Ascona 400) 2nd
7 Russell Brookes/Mike Broad (Talbot Sunbeam Lotus) retired - engine
8 Malcolm Wilson/Terry Harryman (Ford Escort RS) 3rd
9 Terry Kaby/Rob Arthur (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) retired - axle
10 "Didi"/André Pauly (Fiat 131 Abarth) 9th
-
13 Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS)
-
17 Brendan Fagan/Ronan Morgan (Vauxhall Chevette HSR)

1984 (September 13-15), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz (Audi Quattro Sport) retired - gearbox
2 Walter Rohrl/Christian Geistdorfer (Audi Quattro Sport) did not start
3 Jimmy McRae/Mike Nicholson (Opel Manta 400) 1st
4 Per Eklund/Dave Whittock (Toyota Corolla GT) 7th
5 Juha Kankkunen/Juha Piironen (Porsche 911SC RS) retired - in service
6 Russell Brookes/Mike Broad (Opel Manta 400) retired - accident
7 Erwin Webber/Gunter Wanger (Opel Manta 400) retired - head gasket
8 Tony Pond/Rob Arthur (Rover Vitesse 3500) 3rd
9 Mikael Sundstrom/Voitto Silander (Opel Ascona i2000) 8th
10 Chris Lord/Tony McMahon (Golf GTi)

Hope that helps!

Steve Boyd
23rd January 2011, 16:35
Hi,

Thanks everibody for your input to 1982 ERC results...
Some "corrections" or questions regarding those results



Can you fill some missing results for 1983 ERC...
Jänner : 4-10
Artic : 3-10
Hankiralli :2-10
Sachs Winter : 2-10
Saarland : 3-10
ARBÖ : 2-10
Haspengouw : 2-10
Volta Galp a Portugal : 2-10
Hessen : 2-10
Scottish : 4-10
Donau: 2-10
Skoda : 2-10
Lucien Bianchi : 2-10
Hebros : 2-10
Tatry : 3-10
Manx : 2-10
Vin/Valais : 3-10
Algarve : 3-10
Aosta : 4-10

About 1983, Initially there was 49 rallys in ERC schedule, I have only 44... :(
Gallway, Elba, Ciocco and CS seems to be deleted. But for Gunaidyn (TUR) I don't have any information... only appears in the 83 schedulle and then nothing... Was it also deleted??? If not somebody have the top10 results???
Many thanks, best regards.
Américo.

Manx top ten from "25 Years of the Manx Rally" by Doug Baird & Gordon Kniveton:

1983 (September 15-17), start & finish Douglas, IoM
1 Henri Toivonen/Fred Gallagher (Opel Manta 400) 5h 05m 44s
2 Ari Vatanen/Terry Harryman (Opel Manta 400) 5h 07m 01s
3 Russell Brookes/Mike Broad (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 5h 13m 35s
4 Terry Kaby/Mike Nicholson (Vauxhall Chevette HSR) 5h 17m 52s
5 Ian Corkill/Mike Byron (Porsche 911) 5h 35m 59s
6 Robin Lyons/Seamus McCanny (Sunbeam Lotus) 5h 38m 06s
7 Per Eklund/Dave Whittock (Toyota Corolla) 5h 41m 10s
8 Chris Lord/Kevin Gormley (Mazda RX7) 5h 45m 12s
9 John Midgley/Andrew Bodman (Toyota Corolla) 5h 47m 26s
10 Harald Demuth/Arwed Fischer (Audi 80 Quattro) 5h 48m 43s

Martin Liddle
23rd January 2011, 17:18
where will I find the Entry list,and stage times and Results for the 1980 Tour Of Cumbria Please

I have a paper copy of the full results. What is it you want?

januszsz
23rd January 2011, 19:53
1983 ERC...
Jänner : 4-10
4. John Haugland/Jan-Olof Bohlin-N/S-130RS
5. Herbert Grunsteidl/Georg Hopf-A-Sunbeam Lotus
6. Andreas Karasek/F. Trinkl or Trinkel-A-Ascona
7. Wilfried Wiedner/Franz Zehetner-A-Audi Coupe
8. Franz Wurz/Johannes Geist-A-80 Quattro
9. Ladislav Krecek/Borivoj Motl-CS-130RS
10. Gabi Husar/E. Adamec-A-911SC
Artic : 3-10
3. Timo Makela/Kalevi Paive-FIN-Sunbeam Lotus
4. Timo Makinen/Erkki Rautanen-FIN-Escort RS
5. Mikael Sundstrom/Voitto Silander-FIN-Escort RS
6. Mika Sillankorva/Juhani Nieminen-FIN-Escort RS
7. Harri Toivonen/Juha Paajanen-FIN-Escort RS
8. Jouni Kinnunen/Esko Hokkanen-FIN-Escort RS
9. Seppo Mustonen/Erkki Pakkanen-FIN-Escort RS
10. Anders Jonsson/Thorbjorn Johansson-S-Ascona 400
Hankiralli :2-10
2. Antero Laine/Risto Virtanen-FIN-Escort RS
3. Kyosti Hamalainen/Heikki Ahola-FIN-Escort RS
4. Erkki Pitkanen/Juhani Paalama-FIN-Violet GT
5. Timo Makela/Kalevi Paive-FIN-Sunbeam Lotus
6. Mika Arpiainen/Timo Hantunen-FIN-Escort RS
7. Jouni Kinnunen/Esko Hokkanen-FIN-Escort RS
8. Mikael Sundstrom/Voitto Silander-FIN-Escort RS
9. Juhani Ahti/Juha Sarkimo-FIN-Escort RS
10. Harri Vaananen/Timo Tuominen-FIN-Escort RS
Sachs Winter : 2-10
2. Walter Smolej/Werner Hohenadel-A/D-Escort RS
3. Erwin Weber/Gunter Wanger-D-Ascona 400
4. Manfred Hero/Dietnar Muller-D-911SC
5. Robert Droogmans/Ronny Joosten-B-Escort RS
6. Michael Werner/Matthias Feltz-D-Escort RS
7. Friedhelm Kissel/Reinhard Michel-D-Golf GTI
8. Cord Monchmeyer/Gerhard Kischkel-D-Celica
9. Kalle Grundel/Klaus Hopfe-S/D-Golf GTI
10. Norber Brauer/Manfred Haase-D-Golf GTI
Saarland : 3-10
3. Erwin Weber/Gunter Wanger-D-Ascona 400
4. Walter Smolej/Werner Hohenadel-A/D-Escort RS
5. Kalle Grundel/Klaus Hopfe-S/D-Golf GTI
6. Peter Mattig/Battis Cantonati-D-Ascona 400
7. Cord Monchmeyer/Angela Michel-D-Celica
8. Robert Koch/Lothar Ammelounx-D-Lancer Turbo
9. Ralf Richter/Raimund Herber-D-Ascona
10. Burkhard Kaiser/Karl-Heinz Heger-D-Corolla
ARBÖ : 2-10
2. Georg Fischer/Michael Weinzierl-A-Lancer Turbo
3. Sepp Haider/Peter Diekmann-A/D-500SLC
4. Wilfried Wiedner/Franz Zehetner-A-80 Quattro
5. Andreas Karasek/Gerhard de Cillia-A-Ascona
6. Mats Holmbom/Joakim Pettersson-S-Kadettg GT/E
7. N.? Karasek/K. Trinkl or Trinkel-A-Ascona 400
8. Sewi Hopfer/Otto Schonlechner-A-Sunbeam Lotus
9. Brane Kuzmic/Rudi Sali-YU-R5 Turbo
10. Gert Blomqvist/Magnus Andersson-S-Kadett GT/E
Haspengouw : 2-10
2. Patrick Snijers/Dany Colebunders-B-911SC
3. Robert Droogmans/Ronny Joosten-B-Escort RS
4. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopes-B-Ascona 400
5. Valere Vandermaesen/Julien Aerts-B-Ascona 400
6. Paul Lietaer/"Rossi"-B-Sunbeam Lotus
7. Gaby Goudezeune/Serge Messine-B-Ascona 400
8. Per Eklund/Andre Schoonenwolf-S/NL-Ascona 400
9. Jose Lareppe/Patrick Jamar-B-Kadett GT/E
10. Jouko Poysti/Hanny Makynen-FIN-Escort RS
Gunaydin
1. Ilia Chubrikov/Plamen Chubrikiv-BG-R5 Turbo
2. Boncho Dunev/Yordan Ivanov-BG-R5 Turbo
3. Georgi Petrov/Ivan Tonev-BG-Lada 1600
4. Sukru Okcu/Cihat Gurkan-TR-Escort RS
5. Georgi Petarneichev/Georgi Mirchev-BG-Lada 1600
6. Ali Bacioglu/Metin Ceker-TR-Fiat 131
7. Vladimir Iliev/Nikolai Manolov-BG-Lada 1600
8. Sevim Sipahi/Deniz Bacioglu-TR-Fiat 131
9. Suleyman Berisah/Taner Terimcilar-TR-R12
10. Ozcan Dural/Yusuf Ozden-TR-Fiat 131
Volta Galp a Portugal : 2-10
2. Francisco Romaozinho/Andonio Morais-P-Visa Chrono
3. Joaquim Moutinho/Pina de Morais-P-R5 Turbo
4. Antonio Segurado/Ricardo Fernandes-P-Escort RS
5. Ramiro Fernandes/Cruz Monteiro-P-Ritmo 125TC
6. Nicolas Sturken/Jose Mariz-P-Escort RS
7. Holger Helle/Karsten Richardt-DK-Kadett GT/E
8. Joaquim Guedes/ Campos-P-Starlet
9. Madeira/ Vicente-P-Visa GT
10. Fonseca/ Vitorino-P-Visa GT
Hessen : 2-10
2. Sepp Haider/Peter Diekmann-A/D-500SLC
3. Harald Demuth/Arwed Fischer-D-Quattro
4. Walter Smolej/Werner Hohenadel-A/D-Escort RS
5. Kalle Grundel/Klaus Hopfe-S/D-Golf GTI
6. Gustel Brusch/Teddy Schaller-D-Ascona
7. Friedhelm Kissel/Reinhard Michel-D-Golf GTI
8. Ulrich Keil/Lothar Kauer-D-Escort RS
9. Norber Brauer/Manfred Haase-D-Golf GTI
10. Valere Vandermaesen/Julien Aerts-B-Ascona 400
Scottish : 4-10
4. Per Eklund/Dave Whittock-S/GB-Corolla
5. Terry Kaby/Rob Arthur-GB-Chevette HSR
6. Erwin Weber/Gunter Wanger-D-Ascona 400
7. Andrew Cowan/Alan Douglas-GB-80 Quattro
8. Darryl Weidner/Mike Greasley-GB-Quattro
9. Andrew Wood/Neil Ewing-GB-Sunbeam TI
10. Hafstein Hauksson/Birgir Haldorson-IS-Escort RS
Donau: 2-10
2. Nikolai Bolshih/Igor Bolshih-SU-Lada 1600
3. Marian Bublewicz/Ryszard Zyszkowski-PL-Polonez 2000
4. Radoslav Petkov/Nikolai Monchev-BG-911SC
5. Ilia Chubrikov/Stefan Kazakov-BG-R5 Turbo
6. Janis Lavrinovics/Raimondas Pokulis-SU-Lada 1600
7. Adam Polak/Zbigniew Kabulski-PL-Polonez 2000
8. Andrzej Koper/Jacek Lewandowski-PL-R5 Alpine
9. Valeri Velikov/Zlatan Iliev-BG-Lada 1600
10. Gyula Dudas/Tibor Oroszlan-H-Lada 1600
Skoda : 2-10
2. Gerhard Kalnay/Ferdi Hinterleitner-A-Ascona 400
3. Peter Mattig/Erhard Breitenbach-D-Ascona 400
4. Ladislav Krecek/Borivoj Motl-CS-130RS
5. Harry Joki/Olof Lindelof-S-Celica GT
6. Radoslav Petkov/Nikolai Monchev-BG-911SC
7. Jan Raichl/Miroslav Raichl-CS-130RS
8. Ilia Chubrikov/Stefan Kazakov-BG-R5 Turbo
9. Jan Sellholm/ Brudigam-S-Corolla
10. Manfred Sontheimer/Veren Sontheimer-D-Escort RS
Lucien Bianchi : 2-10
2. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopes-B-Ascona 400
3. Valere Vandermaesen/Julien Aerts-B-Ascona 400
4. Jean-Pierre Van de Wauwer/J-C. Vanhouten-B-Ascona 400
5. Jose Lareppe/Joseph Lambert-B-Kadett GT/E
6. Paul Lietaer/"Rossi"-B-Sunbeam Lotus
7. Paul Maaskant/Ruud Oosterbaan-NL-Visa Chrono
8. Henk Vossen/Pie Theunissen-NL-Escort RS
9. P. Davroux/Patrick Jamar-B-Kadett GT/E
10. H. Franck/J-C. Gehasse-B-Manta
Hebros : 2-10
2. Georgi Petarneichev/Georgi Mirchev-BG-Lada 1600
3. Yordan Kuznetzov/V. Genchev-BG-Lada 1600
4. Stoyan Enchev/P. Petrov-BG-Lada 1600
5. Michel Andre-Poyaud/Christophe Andre-Poyaud-F-104ZS
6. Stefan Kranchev/K. Vasiliev-BG-Lada 1600
7. D. Dimitrov/V. Nedkov-BG-Lada 1600
8. V. Nenchev/N. Nachev-BG-Lada 1600
9. Lachezar Isaev/Yordan Sekulov-BG-Lada 1600
10. Rumen Petrov/Stoyan Stoichev-BG-Lada 1600
Tatry : 3-10
3. Svatopluk Kvaizar/Jiri Janecek-CS-130RS
4. Peter Mattig/Erhard Breitenbach-D-Ascona 400
5. Vaclav Blahna/Pavel Schovanek-CS-130RS
6. Vaclav Pech/Jan Soukup-CS-130RS
7. Stasys Brundza/Arvidas Girdauskas-SU-Lada VFTS
8. Pavel Valousek/Karel Jiratko-CS-130RS
9. Zdenek Pipota/Oldrich Gottfried-CS-130RS
10. Georgi Petrov/Ivan Tonev-BG-R5 Alpine
Manx : 2-10
you got it
Vin/Valais : 3-10
3. Christian Blanc/Georges Bubloz-CH-Rally 037
4. Jean-Pierre Balmer/Serge Racine-CH-Manta 400
5. Philippe Roux/W. Maydraz-CH-911SC
6. Attila Ferjancz/Janos Tandari-H-R5 Turbo
7. Renger Guliker/Abe van den Brink-NL-911SC
8. Christian Jacquillard/Christiane Jacquillard-CH-Ascona
9. G. Toedtli/P. Buchilly-CH-Escort RS
10. L. Nicolet/P. Nicolet-CH-Ascona
Algarve : 3-10
3. Joaquim Santos/Miguel Oliveira-P-Escort RS
4. Patrick Snijers/Dany Colebunders-B-911SC
5. Christian Dorche/Pierre Thimonier-F-Visa Chrono
6. Carlos Fontainhas/Rogerio Seromenho-P-Escort RS
7. Jean-Luc Marteil/Philippe Belanger-F-Visa Chrono
8. Yves-Andre Bruel/Brigitte Bruel-F-104ZS
9. Marc Dubois/Lydia Dubois-F-104ZS
10. Jacques Jonquieres/Christian Torteli-F-104ZS
Aosta : 4-10
4. Dario Cerrato/Giuseppe Cerri-I-Manta 400
5. Giovanni Del Zoppo/Betty Tognana-I-Samba Rallye
6. Fornicola/ Clari-I-911SC
7. I. Vuillermin/Nicola Albanese-I-Ascona 400
8. Gattoni/ Conti-I-911SC
9. "Tchine"/Pierre-Manuel Jenot-MC/F-Manta
10. Daniele Signori/Massimo Gargiulo-I-Ritmo 125TC

Regards
Janusz

lennyz
24th January 2011, 23:21
44.VRESTHENA II 10.05 klm. Rohrl 10.13
45.VAMVAKOU 12.75 klm. 11.59
46.VOURVOURA 19.32 klm. Rohrl 15.55
47.ASTROS 13.10 klm. Rohrl 12.03
48.EPIDAURUS 14.50 Rohrl 12.10

From a Greek auto magazine.

Best Regards
Dimitris

Many thanks, that's exactly what I was searching for !

2 questions :
- Who won SS45 Vamvakou ?
- According to an old French magazine, the stage winners are : Waldegaard (27 stage wins), Rohrl (14 stage wins), Warmbold (3), Aaltonen (2), O. Andersson (2) & "Sirocco" (1).
According to your list, I count : Waldegaard (27), Rohrl (14), Warmbold (2), O. Andersson (2), Aaltonen (1) & "Sirocco". Thus, even if I add a stage win for SS45, I would still miss one stage winner : is there maybe an ex aequo on one special stage ? Of course, the French magazine can be wrong (see attachment), but can you maybe check this for me?

Many thanks anyway !

2706

Matthewrally87
25th January 2011, 13:28
Hi, can someone help me with the 1983 European Rally Championship's calendar?

Thanks so much!!!!

sednem
26th January 2011, 08:18
Hi Matthew


Hi, can someone help me with the 1983 European Rally Championship's calendar?

Thanks so much!!!!

Her's what I have...

pt 1. (Coef: 2) 03/01 a 09/01 : 14º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 1) 28/01 a 30/01 : 18º Arctic Rally do (FIN)
3. (Coef: 3) 04/02 a 06/02 : 26º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 4) 11/02 a 13/02 : 33° Swedish Internacional Rally (SWE)
5. (Coef: 4) 17/02 a 20/02 : 31º Rally Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef: 1) 25/02 a 27/02 : 28º Hankiralli (FIN)
7. (Coef: 2) 25/02 a 27/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
8. (Coef: 2) 04/03 a 06/03 : 12º Rally di Sicilia/67º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
9. (Coef: 3) 18/03 a 20/03 : 31º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España (ESP)
10. (Coef: 4) 24/03 a 27/03 : 6° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
11. (Coef: 2) 01/04 a 05/04 : 44º Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
12. (Coef: 3) 08/04 a 09/04 : 26º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
13. (Coef: 1) 08/04 a 10/04 : 13º ADAC Saarland Rally (DEU)
14. (Coef: 1) 14/04 a 17/04 : 27º ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
15. (Coef: 3) 12/05 a 15/05 : 13º Rally Quattro Regioni (ITA)
16. (Coef: 2) 13/05 a 15/05 : 7º Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
17. (Coef: 4) 14/05 a 16/05 : 14º Rally Zlatni Piassatzi (BGR)
18??(Coef: 1) ??/?? a ??/?? : 12° Rally Günaydin (TUR)
19. (Coef: 2) 20/05 a 23/05 : 8º South Swedish (SWE)
20. (Coef: 1) 26/05 a 29/05 : 34ª Volta Galp a Portugal (PRT)
21. (Coef: 2) 02/06 a 05/06 : 6° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella (ITA)
22. (Coef: 2) 03/06 a 05/06 : 32º ADAC Rally Hessen (DEU)
23. (Coef: 2) 11/06 a 14/06 : 38º RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC)
24. (Coef: 2) 11/06 a 12/06 : Rallye des Garrigues (FRA)
25. (Coef: 2) 16/06 a 19/06 : 18º Donau Rally (ROM)
26. (Coef: 3) 24/06 a 26/06 : 19º 24 Heures d'Ypres (BEL)
27. (Coef: 3) 09/07 a 11/07 : Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
28. (Coef: 2) 16/07 a 17/07 : 10º Skoda Rally (CSK)
29. (Coef: 4) 05/08 a 07/08 : 24º Rali Vinho da Madeira (PRT)
30. (Coef: 4) 22/08 a 25/08 : 8° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
31. (Coef: 2) 02/09 a 04/09 : 14º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
32. (Coef: 2) 03/09 a 04/09 : 12º Hebros Rallye (BGR)
33. (Coef: 1) 09/09 a 10/09 : 14° Rally Matador Tatry (SVK)
34. (Coef: 2) 14/09 a 17/09 : 21º Manx Internacional Rally (GBR)
35. (Coef: 2) 16/09 a 18/09 : 20º Rally Princípe de Astúrias (ESP)
36. (Coef: 2) 16/09 a 18/09 : 17º YU Rally (YUG)
37. (Coef: 3) 17/09 a 25/09 : 42º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
38. (Coef: 4) 23/09 a 25/09 : 11º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
39. (Coef: 2) 29/09 a 02/10 : 24º Rallye International du Vin et du Valais (CHE)
40. (Coef: 1) 06/10 a 07/10 : 7° Rallye de Canarias - El Corte Ingles (ESP)
41. (Coef: 4) 15/10 a 16/10 : 18° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
42. (Coef: 2) 21/10 a 23/10 : 19° Rallye Cataluña (ESP)
43. (Coef: 2) 02/11 a 06/11 : 13º Rali Sagres Europa Algarve (PRT)
44. (Coef: 2) 10/11 a 12/11 : 11° Rally di San Marino (SMR)
45. (Coef: 1) 07/12 a 11/12 : Rally d'Aosta (ITA)

Don't know the Günaydin date...
If somebody can fill it...

Regards
Américo

sednem
26th January 2011, 08:23
Hi Janusz,

Thanks for the results


1983 ERC...
Artic and Hankiralli :Timo Makela/Kalevi Palve-FIN-Sunbeam Lotus
Lucien Bianchi : Pierre Davroux/Patrick Jamar-B-Kadett GT/E
Lucien Bianchi : Henri Franck/Jean-Claude Gehasse-B-Manta
Aosta : Alfredo Gattone/??? Conti-I-911SC

Regards
Janusz

Regards
Américo

januszsz
26th January 2011, 09:39
Thank you Sednem for delivery of missing names.
Gunaydin Rally was held 26-28th of May.
In 1983 it was 4th Rallye des Garrigues and 16th Hunsruck Rallye.
Regards
Janusz

Matthewrally87
26th January 2011, 12:41
Thanks so so so much!!!!!!

cvhi
26th January 2011, 18:55
thank you Steve Boyd for your help (manx rally) !!!

cvhi
26th January 2011, 19:00
I search entry list about HUNSRUCK Rally 1981, 1985, 1986 and 1992, SACHS WINTER 1979, DEUTSCHLAND 1987, 1995, SEMPERIT 1974. If someone can help me.

Thank you
mlanders@orange.fr

sednem
27th January 2011, 11:39
I search entry list about HUNSRUCK Rally 1981, 1985, 1986 and 1992, SACHS WINTER 1979, DEUTSCHLAND 1987, 1995, SEMPERIT 1974. If someone can help me.

Thank you
mlanders@orange.fr

Salut...

Deutschland rally, all results (I think entry lists too): http://www.top100-rallye.de/rallyedeutschland/ergebnisse/index.html

Best Regards
Américo

sednem
27th January 2011, 14:01
Hi,
Thaks everibody for 83ERC contribution...

Can somebody confirm that in 1984 the Ciocco Rally has been canceled?
There was also a Limburgia Rally (BEL) in the original ERC calendar, but no date... Does this rally toke place as an ERC Rally? if yes, when and top10 please.

Now, some 1984 ERC dates to be confirmed and results missing...
Boucles de Spa : 2-10th (??? 3-5 Feb)
Hankiralli : 2-10th (??? 24-26 Feb)
ARBÖ : 2-10th (??? 5-8 Apr)
Circuit of Ireland : 2-10th (??? 20-24 Apr)
Quattro Regioni : 2-10th (??? 12-13 May)
Günaydin : 2-10th (??? 24-25 May)
Volta Galp a Portugal : 2-10th
Haspengouw : 2-10th (??? 2-3 Jun)
Scottish : 4-10th (??? 9-12 Jun)
Donau : 6-10th (??? 22-24 Jun)
Skoda : 2-10th (??? 14-15 JUl)
VIDA : 6-10th
Lucien Bianchi : 2-10th (??? 31 Aug - 2 Sep)
Hebros : 2-10th (??? 1-2 Sep)
Vin/Valais : 2-10th (??? 26-30 Sep)
Rali Lois Algarve : 2-10th
Condroz-Huy : 2-10th (??? 2-4 Nov)

And some missing names, or to be confirmed...
Sachs Winter :4. ??? Mayer (???)/??? Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 6. ??? Mayer (???)/??? Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 9. Norbert(?) Brauer (DEU)/Lutz(?) Hage (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Hessen : 9. Ralf(?) Richter (DEU)/Klaus(?) Wendel (DEU) - Opel Ascona 400 -
della Lana : 9. #23 ??? Martini (ITA)/??? Mondino (ITA) - Opel Ascona 400 - + 48:57
VIDA : 5. Plamen Chubrikov (or Chubrukov????) (BGR)/P???. Grekov (BGR) - Renault 5 Turbo -

Best Regards
Américo

januszsz
27th January 2011, 14:57
Hi Americo. I can't say if Ciocco Rally as well as Limburgia Rally took part in 1984 but for sure they were not a part of ERC 1984.

Boucles de Spa : 2-10th (YES 3-5 Feb)
02 Tony Pond GB Rob Arthur GB Nissan 240RS
03 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B Porsche 911SC
04 Guy Colsoul B Alain Lopes B Opel Manta 400
05 José Lareppe B Patrick Jamar B Opel Ascona 2000i
06 Jean Pierre van de Wauwer B Lambert Peeters B Audi 80 Quattro
07 Paul Maaskant NL Ruud Oosterbaan NL Citroën Visa Chrono
08 Jean-Claude Probst B Yves Bozet B Volkswagen Golf GTI
09 Felix Brasseur B Felix Raway B Opel Ascona 400
10 Bernard Munster B Loncke B Opel Manta

Hankiralli : 2-10th (YES 24-26 Feb)
02 Harri Toivonen FIN Cedric Wrede FIN Audi 80 Quattro
03 Mikael Sundström FIN Voitto Silander FIN Opel Ascona
04 Ola Strömberg S Per Carlsson S Saab 99 Turbo
05 Mats Jonsson S Aake Gustavsson S Opel Ascona 400
06 Timo Mäkelä FIN Kalevi Päive FIN Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
07 Kari Laakso FIN Veijo Salonen FIN Volkswagen Golf GTI
08 Harri Uotila FIN Timi Leino FIN Ford Escort RS2000
09 Sebastian Lindholm FIN Ohman FIN Opel Ascona
10 Kalevi Aho FIN Veijo Vyörykkä FIN Citroën Visa Tropheé

ARBÖ : 2-10th (??? 5-8 Apr - I HAVE 12-15.04)
02 Sepp Haider A Ferdi Hinterleitner A Opel Manta 400
03 Sewi Hopfer A Strobl A Renault 5 Turbo
04 Wallner Grösslhuber Ford Escort RS
05 Gabi Husar A E. Fekonia A Porsche 911SC
06 Freddy Kottulinsky S Zeltner A Audi 80 Quattro
07 Hahling Appe Opel Kadett GT/E
08 Spreitzhofer Gersthofer Opel Kadett GT/E
09 Anderson Peisel Toyota Starlet
10 Roth Schutzl Porsche 911

Circuit of Ireland : 2-10th (??? 20-24 Apr- I HAVE 19-24.04)
02 Ernest Kidney GB Seamus McCanny 12 Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
03 Davy Evans GB Roy Kernaghan 17 Nissan 240RS
04 John Price GB Derrick Davies GB 24 Renault 5 Turbo
05 Alan Johnston GB Bobby Willis 28 Toyota Corolla GT
06 Kenny McKinstry IRL Robbie Philpott GB 29 Ford Escort RS2000
07 David Mann GB Dave West GB 27 Toyota Corolla GT
08 Tim Brise GB Steve Bond GB 18 Talbot Sunbeam TI
09 Warren Craig GB Colin Kniveton GB 43 Ford Escort RS2000
10 Julian Roderick GB David Holmes GB 64 Vauxhall Chevette 2300HSR

Quattro Regioni : 2-10th (??? 12-13 May - I HAVE 18-20.05)
02 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Opel Manta 400
03 Giovanni Del Zoppo I Betty Tognana I Talbot Samba Rallye
04 Michele Rayneri I Ergy Bartolich I Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC
05 Bruno Bentivogli RSM Stefano Evangelisti I Alfa Romeo GTV6
06 Norberto? Cerutti I Perazzi I Opel Manta 400
07 Alessandro Cravero I Marina Mandrile I Opel Manta
08 Enrico? Guggiari I Ambrosoli I Citroën Visa Tropheé
09 Stefano Fabbri I Mario Ferfoglia I Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC
10 Amedeo Gerbino I Alessandro Cavalleri I Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC

Günaydin : 2-10th (??? 24-25 May-I HAVE 26-27.05)
02 Radoslav Petkov BG Nikolai Monchev BG Nissan 240RS
03 Kalevi Aho FIN Teuvo Aho FIN Opel Ascona
04 Mihail Costinean RO Gheorghe Barbu RO Renault 5 Alpine
05 Gheorghe Urdea RO Dan Amarica RO Dacia 1310
06 Emre Yerlici TR Can Guvendier TR Peugeot 104 ZS
07 Juhani Lammila FIN Markku Nyman FIN Opel Ascona
08 Stefan Vasile RO Ovidiu Scobai RO Dacia 1310
09 Ali Karacan TR Enes Elver TR Ford Escort
10 Ahmet Taslica TR Omer Tumay TR Fiat 131

Volta Galp a Portugal : 2-10th
02 Carlos Bica P Fernando Prata P Ford Escort RS1800
03 Souto Cid Ford Escort RS
04 Jorge Ortigao P Joao Batista P Toyota Corolla GT 16v
05 "Tchine" MC Gerard Borie F Opel Manta
06 Ramiro Fernandes P Antonio Germano Cruz Monteiro P Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC
07 Manuel Mello Breyner P Miguel Vilar P Audi 80 Quattro
08 Fernando Simoes P Antonio Duraes P Opel Manta 2.0 E
09 Antonio Segurado P Pedro Sena P Opel Ascona
10 Artur Lemos P José Manuel Tavares P Toyota Starlet

Haspengouw : 2-10th (??? 2-3 Jun-I HAVE 1-3.06)
02 Stig Andervang S André Schoonenwolf NL Ford Escort RS2000
03 Jimmy McRae GB Rob Arthur GB Nissan 240RS
04 Valere Vandermaesen B Julien Aerts B Opel Ascona 400
05 Paul Lietaer B Adrien Martens B Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
06 José Lareppe B Joseph Lambert B Opel Ascona 2000i
07 Gerry Reginster B Marc Delmelle B Opel Kadett GT/E
08 Gaby Goudezeune B Serge Messine B Alfa Romeo GTV6
09 Hubert Colsoul B Theo Ulens B Opel Ascona 400
10 Bernard Munster B Loncke B Opel Manta

Scottish : 4-10th (YES 9-12 Jun)
04 Per Eklund S Dave Whittock GB Toyota Corolla GT
05 Tim Brise GB Steve Bond GB Talbot Sunbeam TI
06 Donald Heggie GB Iain Mungall GB Ford Escort RS
07 Vince Wetton GB Chris Allen GB Opel Ascona 400
08 Ian Tilke GB Alastair Roberts GB Ford Escort RS
09 Chris Lord GB John Daniels GB Volkswagen Golf GTI
10 Wilson Girvan GB Dugald McGilvray GB Vauxhall Chevette 2300HSR

Donau : 6-10th (YES 22-24 Jun)
06 Slavcho Hristov BG Stoyan Radev BG Lada VFTS
07 Valeri Filimonov SU Mikhail Devel SU Moskvich 1600
08 Stefan Vasile RO Ovidiu Scobai RO Dacia 1310
09 Vladislav Shtikov SU Mikhail Titov SU Moskvich 2140
10 Hristo Veselinov BG Plamen Veselinov BG Lada 1600

Skoda : 2-10th (YES 14-15 Jul)
02 Ingvar Carlsson S Benny Melander S Mazda RX7
03 John Haugland N Jan Olof Bohlin S 6 Skoda 120LS
04 Jan Sellholm S Kent Andersson S Toyota Starlet
05 Louise Aitken GB Monica Eckhardt D Ford Escort 1600i
06 Hans Christian Svendsen N Gulbrand N Ford Escort RS
07 Ludwig Wachs D Dobberphul D Opel Manta 200
08 Peter?? Widerström S Johansson S Toyota Starlet
09 Morten Ellingsen N Rune Johnsen N Opel Ascona
10 Karel Simek CS Milos Broulik CS 54 Skoda 120LS

VIDA : 6-10th
06 Petr Vraj CS I. Nerusil CS Skoda 120 LS
07 Stefanov Tzvetzov Lada VFTS
08 Josef Sivik CS Pavel Vita CS Skoda 120 LS
09 Milan Tesar CS Vladimir Ondrousek CS Skoda 120LS
10 Jupam Bojadzievski Zastava 101

Lucien Bianchi : 2-10th (YES 31 Aug - 2 Sep)
02 Jean-Louis Dumont B Richard B Renault 5 Turbo
03 Valere Vandermaesen B Julien Aerts B Opel Ascona 400
04 José Lareppe B Joseph Lambert B Opel Ascona 2000i
05 Jan van der Marel NL Anja Belzer NL Opel Manta 400
06 Gerry Reginster B Marc Delmelle B Opel Kadett GT/E
07 Jean-Claude Probst B Yves Bozet B Volkswagen Golf GTI
08 Guy Hendrickx B Baudoin B Opel Manta 200
09 Bernard Munster B Decock B Opel Kadett GT/E
10 Marc Soulet B Philippe Willem B Porsche 911

Hebros : 2-10th (YES 1-2 Sep)
02 Ilia Chubrikov BG Zhivko Dimitrov BG Renault 5 Turbo
03 Boncho Dunev BG Marinov BG Renault 5 Turbo
04 Błażej Krupa PL Piotr Mystkowski PL Renault 11 Turbo
05 Georgi Petrov BG Ivan Tonev BG Lada VFTS
06 Slavcho Hristov BG Stoyan Radev BG Lada VFTS
07 Manolis Halivelakis GR Panahotonis GR Toyota Corolla
08 Ali Karacan TR Yuvali TR Ford Escort RS2000
09 Pavel Maly CS Klimek CS Lada VFTS
10 Sotiris Kokkinis GR Pavli-Kokkini GR Renault 5 Alpine

Vin/Valais : 2-10th (YES 26-30 Sep)
02 Eric Ferreux CH Serge Audemars CH Renault 5 Turbo
03 Marc Surer CH Michel Wyder CH Renault 5 Turbo
04 Jean-Pierre Balmer CH Denis Indermuhle CH Opel Manta 400
05 Christian Jacquillard CH Christiane Jacquillard CH Lancia Rally 037
06 Patrick Snijers B Lambert Peeters B Porsche 911SC RS
07 Philippe Roux CH Schaer CH Nissan 240RS
08 Jean-Marie Carron CH Lattion CH Porsche 930 Turbo
09 Jean-Robert Corthay CH Cotting CH Porsche 930 Turbo
10 Stig Andervang S André Schoonenwolf NL Ford Escort RS2000

Rali Lois Algarve : 2-10th
02 Carlos Bica P Luis Alegria P Ford Escort RS
03 Inverno Amaral P Joaquim Neto P Citroën Visa Tropheé
04 Carlos Fontainhas P Rogerio Seromenho P Ford Escort RS
05 Werner Schweizer A Siegbert Schneider A Opel Manta 200
06 Santinho Mendes P Rui Cunha P Nissan 240 RS
07 Ramiro Fernandes P Antonio Germano Cruz Monteiro P Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC
08 José Moreno P Antonio Pereira P Opel Corsa
09 Antonio Gomes Coutinho P Candido Junior P Toyota Corolla GT 16v
10 Artur Lemos P José Manuel Tavares P Toyota Starlet

Condroz-Huy : 2-10th (??? 2-4 Nov)

02 Guy Colsoul B Alain Lopes B Opel Manta 400
03 Jean-Louis Dumont B Richard B Renault 5 Turbo
04 Valere Vandermaesen B Julien Aerts B Opel Ascona 400
05 Jean Dechesnes B Odette Michaux B Opel Ascona 400
06 Yvan Viaene B Ostyn B Opel Manta GT/E
07 Guy Hendrickx B Baudoin B Opel Manta
08 Vital Budo B Andre Malais B Citroën Visa Trophée
09 Ignace Snoeck B van der Sluys B Opel Manta 200
10 Jean-Claude Probst B Yves Bozet B Volkswagen Golf GTI

And for sure Plamen Chubrikov not Chubrukov.
Regards
Janusz

januszsz
27th January 2011, 15:07
Hi Americo again
Sachs Winter :4. ??? Mayer (???)/Hans-Dieter Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 6. ??? Mayer (???)/Hans-Dieter Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 9. Norbert(?) Brauer (DEU)/Lutz(?) Hage (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - I have Norbert and Lutz
Hessen : 9. Ralf Richter (DEU)/Burhard Wendel (DEU) - Opel Ascona 400 -
By the way do you know first name of Baerdges - co-driver of Rena Blome (Saarland & Hessen) and R. Hofler/B. Hofler (Hessen)?
Regards
Janusz

Matthewrally87
27th January 2011, 18:51
Hi, have you got the European Rally Championship Calendars of the years 1984-1985-1986?

Thanks in advance!!!!

sednem
27th January 2011, 22:51
Hi Americo again
Sachs Winter :4. ??? Mayer (???)/Hans-Dieter Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 6. ??? Mayer (???)/Hans-Dieter Stock (???) - Volkswagen Golf GTi -
Saarland : 9. Norbert(?) Brauer (DEU)/Lutz(?) Hage (DEU) - Volkswagen Golf GTi - I have Norbert and Lutz
Hessen : 9. Ralf Richter (DEU)/Burhard Wendel (DEU) - Opel Ascona 400 -
By the way do you know first name of Baerdges - co-driver of Rena Blome (Saarland & Hessen) and R. Hofler/B. Hofler (Hessen)?
Regards
Janusz

Thanks Janusz,
Here what I have:
Rena Blome/Wiltraud Bärdges
Reinhard Höfler/Bruno Höfler

Regards.
Américo

januszsz
28th January 2011, 08:27
Thanks Janusz,
Here what I have:
Rena Blome/Wiltraud Bärdges
Reinhard Höfler/Bruno Höfler

Regards.
Américo

Thank you Americo for the names.
Yesterday eveningI browsed a bit on the site: http://www.top100-rallye.de/rallyede...sse/index.html and I found [B]Wilhelm[B] Mayer D Hans-Dieter Stock D Volkswagen Golf GTI
There was Wiltraud Baerdges too. And I am not sure if it is correct spelling with "ä" you used. That site is a German site, they use all those "ä", "ö", "ü" marks but they wrote Baerdges not Bärdges. Anybody German speaking can solve the problem?
Regards
Janusz

sednem
28th January 2011, 09:11
Hi, have you got the European Rally Championship Calendars of the years 1984-1985-1986?

Thanks in advance!!!!

Hi Matthew, here's what I have for 84:
1. (Coef: 2) 05/01 a 07/01 : Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 2) 27/01 a 29/01 : Arctic Rally (FIN)
3. (Coef: 2) 03/02 a 05/02 : Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 4) 10/02 a 12/02 : Swedish (SWE)
5. (Coef: 4) 18/02 a 19/02 : Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef: 2) 24/02 a 26/02 : Hankiralli (FIN)
7. (Coef: 2) 24/02 a 26/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
8. (Coef: 3) 17/03 a 18/03 : R.A.C.E. - Costa Blanca (ESP)
9. (Coef: 3) 29/03 a 31/03 : Rally di Sicilia/Targa Fiorio (ITA)
10. (Coef: 2) 30/03 a 01/04 : Rallye des Garrigues (FRA)
11. (Coef: 2) 06/04 a 08/04 : ADAC Saarland Rally (DEU)
12. (Coef: 1) 12/04 a 15/04 : ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
13. (Coef: 3) 14/04 a 15/04 : Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
14. (Coef: 2) 19/04 a 24/04 : Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
15. (Coef: 4) 26/04 a 29/04 : Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
16. (Coef: 4) 12/05 a 13/05 : Zlatni Piassatzi (BGR)
17. (Coef: 2) 18/05 a 20/05 : South Swedish (SWE)
18. (Coef: 2) 18/05 a 20/05 : Quattro Regioni (ITA)
19. (Coef: 2) 26/05 a 27/05 : Volta Galp a Portugal (PRT)
20. (Coef: 1) 26/05 a 27/05 : Rally Günaydin (TUR)
21. (Coef: 1) 02/06 a 03/06 : Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
22. (Coef: 2) 07/06 a 09/06 : Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
23. (Coef: 2) 09/06 a 12/06 : RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC)
24. (Coef: 2) 22/06 a 24/06 : ADAC Rally Hessen (DEU)
25. (Coef: 1) 22/06 a 24/06 : Rally Donau (ROM)
26. (Coef: 2) 28/06 a 30/06 : Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella (ITA)
27. (Coef: 4) 29/06 a 01/07 : 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
28. (Coef: 1) 29/06 a 30/06 : Barum Rally (CZE)
29. (Coef: 1) 14/07 a 15/07 : Skoda Rally (CSK)
30. (Coef: 1) 27/07 a 29/07 : Rally VIDA (BGR)
31. (Coef: 4) 03/08 a 05/08 : Rali Vinho da Madeira (PRT)
32. (Coef: 3) 17/08 a 18/08 : Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
33. (Coef: 4) 20/08 a 22/08 : Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
34. (Coef: 1) 30/08 a 02/09 : Rally Piancavallo (ITA)
35. (Coef: 1) 31/08 a 02/09 : Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
36. (Coef: 2) 01/09 a 02/09 : Hebros Rallye (BGR)
37. (Coef: 2) 12/09 a 15/09 : Manx (GBR)
38. (Coef: 2) 14/09 a 16/09 : YU Rally (YUG)
39. (Coef: 2) 21/09 a 23/09 : Rally Princípe de Astúrias (ESP)
40. (Coef: 4) 24/09 a 28/09 : Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
41. (Coef: 2) 26/09 a 30/09 : Rallye International du Vin et du Valais (CHE)
42. (Coef: 3) 26/09 a 30/09 : Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
43. (Coef: 1) 06/10 a 07/10 : Rallye de Canarias - El Corte Ingles (ESP)
44. (Coef: 3) 12/10 a 13/10 : Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
45. (Coef: 3) 26/10 a 28/10 : Rallye Cataluña (ESP)
46. (Coef: 2) 01/11 a 03/11 : Rali Lois Algarve (PRT)
47. (Coef: 1) 02/11 a 04/11 : Rallye du Condroz-Huy (BEL)
48. (Coef: 3) 08/11 a 11/11 : Rally di San Marino (SMR)
49. (Coef: 1) 24/11 a 25/11 : Rally du Var (FRA)

Regards
Américo.

sednem
28th January 2011, 09:15
Thank you Americo for the names.
Yesterday eveningI browsed a bit on the site: http://www.top100-rallye.de/rallyede...sse/index.html and I found [B]Wilhelm[B] Mayer D Hans-Dieter Stock D Volkswagen Golf GTI
There was Wiltraud Baerdges too. And I am not sure if it is correct spelling with "ä" you used. That site is a German site, they use all those "ä", "ö", "ü" marks but they wrote Baerdges not Bärdges. Anybody German speaking can solve the problem?
Regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz,

My little (very little) knowledge in German says that ä = ae... If somebody can clarify this "rule"...

Now, yesterday I was entering the data youn sent to me, and searching wich Zeltner co-drive Kottulinski at the 84's ARBO Rally and I fund this very interesting document : http://www.thomas-zeltner.com/statistik_thomas_zeltner_1976_2010.pdf
Then for ARBO Rally 1984 you have Ted Kottulinski as Thomas driver's...

Best regards.
Américo

Matthewrally87
28th January 2011, 12:33
Ooooh!!!! Thank you sednem!!!!!

Nenad Nikolic
28th January 2011, 17:04
Hello,
For Januszs:
VIDA : 6-10th
06 Petr Vraj CS I. Nerusil CS Skoda 120 LS
07 Stefanov Tzvetzov Lada VFTS
08 Josef Sivik CS Pavel Vita CS Skoda 120 LS
09 Milan Tesar CS Vladimir Ondrousek CS Skoda 120LS
10 Jupam Bojadzievski Zastava 101

10 Matjaz Zupan/Blagoja Bojadzievski (Yugoslavia) Zastava 101

Regards.

sednem
28th January 2011, 22:55
Hi, have you got the European Rally Championship Calendars of the years 1984-1985-1986?

Thanks in advance!!!!

Hi Matthew,

I've just entered 1985 calendars into my DB... son here's what I have so far, with 2 littre remarks...
- it is based in the beggining of season calendar, so some dates can be wrong (some have been verified, but for coef 1 & 2 most are as of initial calendar and might be have changed during the season) so if somebody in this forum can verify it...
- Regarding round nº4: Swedish Rally. When cross cheking with rallybase.nl, Swedish Rally is given only as a WRC round, therefor in 1985 newspapers, Swedish rally count for ERC champship... Who's right??? BTW somebody has the final 1985 ERC Standings???

1. (Coef: 2) 04/01 a 05/01 : 16º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 2) 18/01 a 20/01 : 20º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
3. (Coef: 2) 08/02 a 10/02 : 28º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 4) 15/02 a 17/02 : 35° Rally Internacional da Suécia (SWE)
5. (Coef: 3) 21/02 a 24/02 : 33º Rally Costa Brava (ESP)
6. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU)
7. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : 30º Hankiralli (FIN)
8. (Coef: 1) 16/03 a 17/03 : 33° Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA)
9. (Coef: 3) 22/03 a 24/03 : 33º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España - Costa Blanca (ESP)
10. (Coef: 3) 28/03 a 31/03 : 6º Rallye des Garrigues (FRA)
11. (Coef: 2) 05/04 a 09/04 : 46º Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
12. (Coef: 3) 12/04 a 14/04 : 28º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
13. (Coef: 4) 17/04 a 19/04 : 8° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
14. (Coef: 1) 19/04 a 21/04 : 29º ARBÖ Rally (AUT)
15. (Coef: 4) 11/05 a 13/05 : 16º Rallye Internacional Albena-Areias Douradas (BGR)
16. (Coef: 2) 16/05 a 19/05 : 10º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE)
17. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 8º Saturnus Rally (SVN)
18. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 12º Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
19. (Coef: 3) 23/05 a 25/05 : 17° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
20. (Coef: 2) 23/05 a 26/05 : 36ª Volta Galp a Portugal (PRT)
21. (Coef: 1) 24/05 a 27/05 : 14° Rally Günaydin (TUR)
22. (Coef: 2) 06/06 a 09/06 : 34º ADAC Rally Hessen (DEU)
23. (Coef: 2) 08/06 a 11/06 : 40º RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC)
24. (Coef: 1) 14/06 a 15/06 : 20º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
25. (Coef: 2) 15/06 a 16/06 : 9° Rallye de Canarias - El Corte Ingles (ESP)
26. (Coef: 2) 21/06 a 23/06 : 15º Barum Rally (CZE)
27. (Coef: 2) 28/06 a 30/06 : 21º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
28. (Coef: 3) 03/07 a 06/07 : 14º Rally di Sicilia/69º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
29. (Coef: 2) 05/07 a 06/07 : 42° Rali da Polónia (POL)
30. (Coef: 3) 11/07 a 13/07 : 18º Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
31. (Coef: 2) 18/07 a 20/07 : 12º Skoda Rally (CSK)
32. (Coef: 2) 25/07 a 28/07 : 8° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella (ITA)
33. (Coef: 4) 02/08 a 04/08 : 26º Rali Vinho da Madeira (PRT)
34. (Coef: 2) 20/08 a 22/08 : Rally VIDA (BGR)
35. (Coef: 4) 26/08 a 29/08 : 10° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
36. (Coef: 2) 30/08 a 31/08 : Rally Piancavallo (ITA)
37. (Coef: 2) 01/09 a 02/09 : 14º Hebros Rallye (BGR)
38. (Coef: 2) 05/09 a 08/09 : 4º ADAC Rallye Deutschland (DEU)
39. (Coef: 2) 06/09 a 08/09 : 16º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
40. (Coef: 3) 11/09 a 14/09 : 23º Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally (GBR)
41. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 22º Rally Princípe de Astúrias (ESP)
42. (Coef: 4) 20/09 a 22/09 : 13º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
43. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 19º YU Rally (YUG)
44. (Coef: 4) 21/09 a 24/09 : 44º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
45. (Coef: 2) 28/09 a 29/09 : 26º Rallye International du Valais (CHE)
46. (Coef: 2) 17/10 a 20/10 : 20° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
47. (Coef: 4) 25/10 a 28/10 : 21° Rallye Cataluña (ESP)
48. (Coef: 2) 30/10 a 03/11 : 15º Rali Lois Algarve 1985 (PRT)
49. (Coef: 2) 08/11 a 11/11 : 13° Rally di San Marino (SMR)
50. (Coef: 1) 09/11 a 11/11 : 12º Rallye du Condroz-Huy (BEL)
51. (Coef: 1) 29/11 a 01/12 : 32º Rally du Var (FRA)

Regards.
Américo

januszsz
29th January 2011, 00:11
Hi Americo,
Here below are some answers and additions or corrections.
- Regarding round nº4: Swedish Rally. When cross cheking with rallybase.nl, Swedish Rally is given only as a WRC round, therefor in 1985 newspapers, Swedish rally count for ERC champship... Who's right??? SWEDISH WASN'T AN ERC ROUND THAT YEAR
BTW somebody has the final 1985 ERC Standings???
According to M. Holmes "World Rallying 8": 1.Cerrato 409, 2.Tabaton 264, 3.Servia 261, 4.Pregliasco 251, 5.Zanussi 250, 6.Biasion 245, 7. Demuth 221, 8.Beguin 188, 9.Brookes 186, 10.Kaby 184, 11.Kuzmic 183, 12.Grundel 180, 13.Snijers 170...

1. (Coef: 2) 04/01 a 05/01 : 16º Jänner Rallye (AUT)
2. (Coef: 2) 18/01 a 20/01 : 20º Rally do Ártico (FIN)
3. (Coef: 2) 08/02 a 10/02 : 28º Boucles de Spa (BEL)
4. (Coef: 4) 15/02 a 17/02 : 35° Rally Internacional da Suécia (SWE) NOT ERC
5. (Coef: 3) 21/02 a 24/02 : 33º Rally Costa Brava (ESP) 22-24.2
6. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : Sachs Winter Rallye (DEU) 22-23.2
7. (Coef: 2) 22/02 a 24/02 : 30º Hankiralli (FIN) 23-24.2
8. (Coef: 1) 16/03 a 17/03 : 33° Rally del Ciocco e Valle del Serchio (ITA) 5-10.3
9. (Coef: 3) 22/03 a 24/03 : 33º Rallye Internacional del R.A.C. de España - Costa Blanca (ESP)
10. (Coef: 3) 28/03 a 31/03 : 6º Rallye des Garrigues (FRA) 29-30.3
11. (Coef: 2) 05/04 a 09/04 : 46º Circuit of Ireland (IRL)
12. (Coef: 3) 12/04 a 14/04 : 28º Critérium Alpin/Jean Behra (FRA)
13. (Coef: 4) 17/04 a 19/04 : 8° Rally Costa Smeralda (ITA)
14. (Coef: 1) 19/04 a 21/04 : 29º ARBÖ Rally (AUT) 19-20.4
15. (Coef: 4) 11/05 a 13/05 : 16º Rallye Internacional Albena-Areias Douradas (BGR)
16. (Coef: 2) 16/05 a 19/05 : 10º Rallye do Sul da Suécia (SWE) 15-19.5
17. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 8º Saturnus Rally (SVN)
18. (Coef: 1) 17/05 a 19/05 : 12º Haspengouw Rally (BEL)
19. (Coef: 3) 23/05 a 25/05 : 17° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba-Trofeo Ettore Bettoja (ITA)
20. (Coef: 2) 23/05 a 26/05 : 36ª Volta Galp a Portugal (PRT) 23-27.5
21. (Coef: 1) 24/05 a 27/05 : 14° Rally Günaydin (TUR) 24-26.5
22. (Coef: 2) 06/06 a 09/06 : 34º ADAC Rally Hessen (DEU)
23. (Coef: 2) 08/06 a 11/06 : 40º RSAC Scottish Rally (XSC) 6-11.6
24. (Coef: 1) 14/06 a 15/06 : 20º Rally do Danúbio (ROM)
25. (Coef: 2) 15/06 a 16/06 : 9° Rallye de Canarias - El Corte Ingles (ESP) 14-16.6
26. (Coef: 2) 21/06 a 23/06 : 15º Barum Rally (CZE) 20-23.6
27. (Coef: 2) 28/06 a 30/06 : 21º 24 Horas de Ypres (BEL)
28. (Coef: 3) 03/07 a 06/07 : 14º Rally di Sicilia/69º Targa Fiorio (ITA)
29. (Coef: 2) 05/07 a 06/07 : 42° Rali da Polónia (POL)
30. (Coef: 3) 11/07 a 13/07 : 18º Hunsrück Rally (DEU)
31. (Coef: 2) 18/07 a 20/07 : 12º Skoda Rally (CSK) 18-21.7
32. (Coef: 2) 25/07 a 28/07 : 8° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella (ITA)
33. (Coef: 4) 02/08 a 04/08 : 26º Rali Vinho da Madeira (PRT)
34. (Coef: 2) 20/08 a 22/08 : Rally VIDA (BGR) 17-18.8 IT WAS 14TH INT. RALLY VIDA
35. (Coef: 4) 26/08 a 29/08 : 10° Rally Halkidikis (GRC)
36. (Coef: 2) 30/08 a 31/08 : Rally Piancavallo (ITA) IT WAS 6TH RALLY PIANCAVALLO
37. (Coef: 2) 01/09 a 02/09 : 14º Hebros Rallye (BGR)
38. (Coef: 2) 05/09 a 08/09 : 4º ADAC Rallye Deutschland (DEU)
39. (Coef: 2) 06/09 a 08/09 : 16º Criterium Lucien Bianchi (BEL)
40. (Coef: 3) 11/09 a 14/09 : 23º Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally (GBR)
41. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 22º Rally Princípe de Astúrias (ESP) 21-22.9
42. (Coef: 4) 20/09 a 22/09 : 13º Rothmans Rally de Chipre (CYP)
43. (Coef: 2) 20/09 a 22/09 : 19º YU Rally (YUG)
44. (Coef: 4) 21/09 a 24/09 : 44º Tour de France Automobile (FRA)
45. (Coef: 2) 28/09 a 29/09 : 26º Rallye International du Valais (CHE) 25-29.9
46. (Coef: 2) 17/10 a 20/10 : 20° Rally d'Antibes (FRA)
47. (Coef: 4) 25/10 a 28/10 : 21° Rallye Cataluña (ESP)
48. (Coef: 2) 30/10 a 03/11 : 15º Rali Lois Algarve 1985 (PRT) 31.10-2-11
49. (Coef: 2) 08/11 a 11/11 : 13° Rally di San Marino (SMR) 8-10.11
50. (Coef: 1) 09/11 a 11/11 : 12º Rallye du Condroz-Huy (BEL)
51. (Coef: 1) 29/11 a 01/12 : 32º Rally du Var (FRA)

That's all.
Regards
Janusz

C64WDU
29th January 2011, 00:48
Can anyone help with rear pictures of Marc Duez 6r4 hunsrück rallye 86. I am trying to make a model but cannot find rear pictures.

Cheers, Dave

Matthewrally87
29th January 2011, 10:21
Thanks so much sednem and januszsz!!!!!

sednem
29th January 2011, 12:51
Hi Janusz,

Once again thanks for '84 results.
Below some (first)names that i fund...




Boucles de Spa : 10 Bernard Munster B Christian Loncke B Opel Manta
ARBÖ : 04 Eric Wallner Peter Grösslhuber Ford Escort RS
ARBÖ : (as allready notified) 06 Ted Kottulinsky/Thomas Zeltner Audi 80 Quattro
Quattro Regioni : 06 Norberto? Cerutti I Perazzi I Opel Manta 400 (in 83 and 84 in other italian rallys I fund Massimo Cerutti/Riccardo Perazzi...)
Volta Galp a Portugal : 03 Rui Souto/Eduardo Cid (POR) Ford Escort RS
Haspengouw (and Lucien Bianchi): 07 Gerry Reginster B Marc Delmelle B Opel Kadett GT/E (I think the driver first name is Thierry)
Hebros : 03 Boncho Dunev BG George Marinov BG Renault 5 Turbo
Hebros : 07 Manolis Halivelakis GR Panahotonis GR Toyota Corolla (maybe Lazaros Panagiotounis as co-driver???)
Hebros : 10 Sotiris Kokkinis GR Tonia Pavli-Kokkini GR Renault 5 Alpine
Vin/Valais : 08 Jean-Marie Carron CH Laurent Lattion CH Porsche 930 Turbo

Janusz

That's all...

Regards
Américo.

sednem
29th January 2011, 12:57
Thanks so much sednem and januszsz!!!!!

your wellcome....
for 86 calendar i still don't have check-it (i'm now entering 85 season...) but anyway here's what I have...

1 1-Jan 6-Jan AUT 17° Castrol Janner Rally 2
2 23-Jan 26-Jan FIN 21° Arctic Rally 2
3 7-Fev 9-Fev BEL 29° Boucles de Spa 2
4 20-Fev 23-Fev ESP 34° Rally Costa Brava 3
5 21-Fev 23-Fev FIN 31° Hankiralli 1
6 23-Fev 2-Mar ALE Sachs Winter 2
7 21-Mar 23-Mar ESP 34° Rally RACE - Costa Blanca 3
8 28-Mar 1-Abr IRL 47° Rothmans Circuit of Ireland 1
9 3-Abr 6-Abr FRA 7° Rally des Garrigues 4
10 5-Abr 6-Abr ESP 20° Rally Cales de Palafrugell - Girona - Guilleries 1
11 16-Abr 19-Abr ITA 9° Rally Costa Smeralda 4
12 18-Abr 20-Abr AUT 8° Arbo Rally 1
13 9-Mai 10-Mai BEL 15° Rally Haspengouw 2
14 10-Mai 12-Mai BUL 17° Rally Zlatni Piassatzi 4
15 15-Mai 17-Mai ITA 18° Rally dell'Isola d'Elba 3
16 15-Mai 18-Mai SUE 11° South Swedish Rally 2
17 22-Mai 25-Mai POR 35° Volta a Portugal 2
18 23-Mai 25-Mai YUG 9º Saturnus 2
19 29-Mai 1-Jun ALE 35° ADAC Rally Hessen 2
20 31-Mai 1-Jun ITA 15° Rally 4 Regioni 1
21 7-Jun 8-Jun FRA 29° Criterium Alpin - Jean Behra 2
22 7-Jun 10-Jun GBR 41° lloyds Bowmaker Scottish Rally 2
23 12-Jun 14-Jun ITA 70° Targa Florio - Rally di Sicilia 3
24 27-Jun 29-Jun BEL 22° 24 Heures d'Ypres 3
25 27-Jun 30-Jun TUR 15° Gunaydin Rally of Turkey 2
26 28-Jun 29-Jun CZE 16° Barum Tribec Rally 2
27 4-Jul 6-Jul POL 43° Rajd Polski 2
28 4-Jul 5-Jul ESP 10° Rally El Corte Ingles 2
29 12-Jul 13-Jul CZE 13° Rally Bohemia 2
30 24-Jul 27-Jul ITA 9° Rally della Lana 2
31 24-Jul 27-Jul ALL 19° Hunsruck Rally 3
32 1-Ago 3-Ago POR 26° Rally Vinho da Madeira 4
33 2-Ago 3-Ago BUL 16° Vida Rally 2
34 7-Ago 10-Ago ALL 5° ADAC Rally Deutschland 2
35 25-Ago 27-Ago GRE 11° Halkidikis Rally 4
36 28-Ago 31-Ago ITA 7° Rally di Piancavallo 2
37 30-Ago 31-Ago BUL 15° Hebros Rally 2
38 30-Ago 31-Ago BEL 17° Criterium Lucien Bianchi 2
39 10-Set 13-Set GBR 24° Tudor Webasto Manx Rally 4
40 18-Set 21-Set ESP 23° Rally Principe de Asturias 2
41 20-Set 26-Set FRA 45° Tour de France Automobile 3
42 26-Set 28-Set CYP 14° Cyprus Rally 4
43 2-Out 5-Out FRA 21° Rally d'Antibes 3
44 22-Out 25-Out SUI 27° Rally du Valais 2
45 24-Out 26-Out ESP 22° Rally de Catalunya 4
46 29-Out 2-Nov POR 16° Rally Lois Algarve 2
47 6-Nov 9-Nov SMR 14° Rally di San Marino 2
48 8-Nov 9-Nov BEL Condroz 2
49 29-Nov 30-Nov FRA 32º Rally du Var 2
Regards.
Américo

sednem
29th January 2011, 13:07
Can anyone help with rear pictures of Marc Duez 6r4 hunsrück rallye 86. I am trying to make a model but cannot find rear pictures.

Cheers, Dave

have you tried this: http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=121117&page=2
or this: http://www.foto-dfg.de/Bilder/Motorsport/Hunsrueck%201986/index.html

Regards
Américo

januszsz
29th January 2011, 13:19
Thanks Americo,
I think in ERC'86 callendar you lost 6th Semperit Rallye 7-8.11. and it was 13th Rallye du Condroz.
Back to our discussion on ä = ae. Yes you are right. It is common replacement for those special marks especially in countries which doesn't have those marks in their alphabets... Germans use those marks and it would be strange when in te same dokument author uses special marks and suddenly in one name he doesn't. It was why I asked German-speaking for help. Nobody answered yet...
Regards
Janusz

Matthewrally87
29th January 2011, 14:26
Thanks so much sednem and januszsz!!!!

kabouter
30th January 2011, 08:21
- Regarding round nº4: Swedish Rally. When cross cheking with rallybase.nl, Swedish Rally is given only as a WRC round, therefor in 1985 newspapers, Swedish rally count for ERC champship... Who's right???
The Swedish Rally was given ERC status when it stopped counting for the Manufacturer's championship in 1980 (like 1000 Lakes). Originally for 1985 the Swedish was supposed to count for the World Championship for Drivers, as well as the ERC, but because of the uncertainties surrounding the Rallye Monte Carlo for that year, it was decided to include the Swedish in the Manufacturer's world championship as well. I think (but I'm not 100% certain) that was why the rally did not count for the ERC in the end.

And of course you can find the final classification in RallyBase: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=standing&standingid=erc1985

Oppositelock
31st January 2011, 12:16
As we have some letters in German which are not used in foreign languages - especially English - they are usually translated as follows (whenever there is no German keyboard around):

ä = ae
ö = oe
ü = ue
ß = ss

So Wiltraud Bärdges (she by the way is since years married to former rally driver Dietrich Kissel) would appear as Wiltraud Baerdges on any international result.

januszsz
31st January 2011, 13:17
Thank you Oppositelock.
That translation of special letters is clear and well known.
The problem is that in a German text his Author used all those umlauts for all names but he wrote Baerdges not Bärdges,
Regards
Janusz

kabouter
31st January 2011, 13:43
In Scharnagl's (German language) annual Rallye Jahrbuch 1984/85 the names are given as Blome/Bärdges in the results section.

kabouter
31st January 2011, 13:54
Hi Americo. I can't say if Ciocco Rally as well as Limburgia Rally took part in 1984 but for sure they were not a part of ERC 1984.

The Limburgia Rally took place in 1984, on 25 August. It was centered around the Dutch village of Maasbracht, and won by Jan van der Marel and Anja Beltzer with an Opel Manta 400. It was only a round of the Dutch Championship, not of the ERC (I doubt it reached the minimum stage distance for an ERC event with a total stage time of 69 minutes for the winner).

From this list of Rally del Ciocco winners http://www.ciocco.it/inglese/rally/rallyciocco/albo.htm it seems the rally was not held in the years 1983 and 1984.

Mark
31st January 2011, 14:16
As you may have noticed, this thread now has an entire forum to itself! So feel free to make new thread postings rather than just posting in this one thread.

sednem
1st February 2011, 13:47
Hi.

Many thaks everibody for all your contribution...
Specialy for the "german" leçon pretty usefull!

To acheive 1985 ERC results here's what's missing me:
Hankiralli : 4-10th
Ciocco : 2-10th
Circuit Ireland : 3-10th
ARBO Rally : 1-10th
Haspengouw 3-10th
Volta a Portugal 2-10th
Gunaidyn 2-10th
Scottish Rally 4-10th
Donau 2-10th
Skoda Rally 2-10th
VIDA Rally 7-10th
Hebros 2-10th
Lucien Bianchi 2-10th
Algarve 2-10th
Condroz 2-10th

and some missing names...
Boucles SPA: 7. Klaus Fritzinger (DEU)/??? Gartner (???)
Boucles SPA: 10. Jacky Dortu (BEL)/??? Simon (???)
Sachs Winter: 7. ??? Zimmermann (???)/??? Buchenleit (???)
Saturnus : 8. ??? Pockva (SUN)/??? Potapov (SUN)
Saturnus : 10. ??? Maier (???)/??? Boesel (???)
Hessen : 4. ??? Petersen (???)/??? Kücken (???)
Hessen : 9. ??? Schneppenheim (???)/??? Fehlhaber (???)
Barum : 9. ??? Gassner (???)/??? Gassner (???)
Barum : 10. ??? Abicht (???)/??? Hage (???)
dalla Lana : 4. ??? Maggi (ITA)/Marco Ercole (ITA)
dalla Lana : 6. Jean Krucker (CHE)/??? Basso (ITA)
Valais : 5. ??? Gachan (???)/??? Barecca (???)
Valais : 6. ??? Rebelez (???)/??? Andres (???)
Valais : 7. Adriano Terrani (???)/??? Govi (???)
Valais : 8. ??? Balmer (CHE)/??? Stalder (CHE)
Valais : 10. ??? Melly (???)/??? Dandres (???)

Best regards.
Américo.

januszsz
1st February 2011, 15:09
Hankiralli : 4-10th
04 Sebastian Lindholm FIN Andreas Tallberg FIN Audi 80 Quattro
05 Jouni Kinnunen FIN Juhani Nieminen FIN Audi 80 Quattro
06 Hannu Degert FIN Hannu Rättö FIN Ford Escort RS
07 Risto Buri FIN Jorma Hakanen FIN Opel Ascona 2000i
08 Ahti Kinnunen FIN Timo Saukkonen FIN Opel Ascona 2000i
09 Kari Mäkilä FIN Tapio Eirtovaara FIN Talbot Sunbeam Lotus
10 Jari Latvala FIN Asko Sairanen FIN Opel Ascona 2000i

Ciocco : 2-10th
02 Fabrizio Tabaton I Luciano Tedeschini I Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC
03 A. Lucchesi I E. Lucchesi I Porsche 911
04 Dell'Ollio I Loris Roggia I Lancia Rally 037
05 Bertolozzi I Silvia Galleni I Opel Ascona 400
06 Carrara I Belli I Porsche 911
07 Turri I Trombi I Fiat Ritmo Abarth 125TC
08 Frugoli I Paroli I Volkswagen Golf GTI
09 Hunt Venturi I Opel Manta
10 Tiziano Chiti I Riccardo Boretti I Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC

Circuit Ireland : 3-10th
03 Bertie Fisher IRL Austin Frazer IRL Opel Manta 400
04 Bernard Beguin F Jean-Jacques Lenne F Porsche 911SC RS
05 Billy Coleman IRL Ronan Morgan IRL Porsche 911SC RS
06 Tony Pond GB Rob Arthur GB Rover Vitess
07 Per Eklund S David Whittock GB Toyota Celica Supra
08 David Llewellin GB Phil Short GB Audi Quattro
09 Ken McKinstry GB Crowe Ford Escort RS
10 Cyril Bolton GB Derek Ervine GB Opel Manta 400

ARBO Rally : 1-10th
01 Sepp Haider A Ferdi Hinterleitner A #3 Opel Manta 400
02 Karasek A Schweigerhofer A Opel Manta
03 Gerhard Kalnay A Günther Tazreiter A Skoda 130LR
04 Langauer Kieselbach Mitsubishi Lancer Turbo
05 Eddy Schlager A Schreiber Volkswagen Golf GTI
06 Franz Filzmoser A Hans Mitterbauer A Volkswagen Golf GTI
07 Kopp Werwitz Audi 80 Quattro
08 Ziesler Hasenhuttl Peugeot 205 GTI
09 Hahling Appe Toyota Corolla GT 16v
10 Robert Strobl A Karin Strobl A Toyota Corolla GT 16v

Haspengouw 3-10th
03 Thierry Reginster B Georges Biar B Porsche 911SC RS
04 Valere Vandermaesen B Julien Aerts B Opel Manta 400
05 Guy Colsoul B Alain Lopes B Opel Manta 400
06 José Lareppe B Joseph Lambert B Opel Ascona 2000i
07 Jean Pierre van de Wauwer B Yves Bozet B Audi 80 Quattro
08 Keller Sicher Renault 5 Turbo
09 Nelissen Thierry/Thierie? Opel Ascona 400
10 Sandin Norden Volkswagen Golf GTI

Volta a Portugal 2-10th
02 José Miguel Faria P José Luis Nascimento P Ford Escort RS
03 Carlos Bica P Joao Sena P Ford Escort RS
04 Santinho Mendes P Rui Cunha P Nissan 240 RS
05 Pedro Leite Faria P Pedro Perez P Ford Escort RS
06 Joaquim Moutinho P Edgar Fortes P Renault 5 Turbo
07 Jorge Ortigao P Joao Batista P Toyota Corolla GT 16v
08 Manuel Mello Breyner P Alfredo Lavrador P Audi 80 Quattro
09 M. Santos P Pedro P Ford Escort RS
10 Antonio Segurado P Rui Bevilacqua P Renault 11 Turbo

Gunaidyn 2-10th
02 Ali Bacioglu TR Metin Ceker TR Opel Manta 400
03 Reng Kocibey TR Romolo Marcopoli TR Mitsubishi Starion
04 Ilhan Dökümcü TR Merzeci TR Peugeot 205 GTI
05 Karabekir TR Basay TR Fiat 131
06 I. Morgan Panaro Opel Manta
07 Klemenz Lang Ford Escort
08 Florin Mateescu RO Mircea Panaite RO Dacia 1310
09 Gürel TR Teoman TR Fiat 131
10 Erinc TR Öztürk TR Fiat 131

Scottish Rally 4-10th
04 Bertie Fisher IRL Austin Frazer IRL #9 Opel Manta 400
05 Tony Pond GB Rob Arthur GB #14 Rover Vitesse
06 Andrew Wood GB Mike Nicholson GB #24 Vauxhall Astra GT/E
07 Terry Kaby GB Kevin Gormley GB #8 Nissan 240RS
08 Saeed Al Hajri Q John Spiller GB #11 Porsche 911SC RS
09 Murray Grierson GB Roger Anderson GB #31 Ford Escort RS
10 Mann Mann GB Bryan Harris GB #25 Toyota Corolla GR 16v

Donau 2-10th
02 Marian Bublewicz PL Ryszard Żyszkowski PL Polonez 2000
03 Svatopluk Kvaizar CS Jiri Janecek CS Skoda 130LR
04 Potche Kolles Audi Quattro
05 Nikolai Bolshih SU Igor Bolshih SU Lada VFTS
06 Eedo Raide SU Georg Valdek SU Lada VFTS
07 Ludovic Balint RO Constantin Zarnescu RO Dacia 1310
08 Gheorghe Urdea RO Dan Amarica RO Dacia 1310
09 Kalman Topor H György Barna H Lada VFTS
10 Emre Yerlici TR Can Ünlü TR Peugeot 205 GTI

Skoda Rally 2-10th
02 Ingvar Carlsson S Benny Melander S #2 Mazda RX7
03 Attila Ferjancz H Janos Tandari H Renault 5 Turbo
04 Ladislav Krecek CS Borivoj Motl CS Skoda 130LR
05 Ralf Richter D Burhard Wendel D Opel Ascona 400
06 Svatopluk Kvaizar CS Jiri Janecek CS Skoda 130LR
07 Jiri Urban CS Jiri Klima CS #21 Skoda 130 LR
08 Gerhard Kalnay A Günther Tazreiter A #16 Skoda 130LR
09 Vaclav Pech CS Jan Soukup CS #*7 Skoda 130 LR
10 Matthias Moosleitner D Thomas Dartsch D Opel Ascona 400

VIDA Rally 7-10th
07 Yordan Kuznetzov BG Penev BG Lada VFTS
08 Fatsek CS Nesrota CS Lada VFTS
09 Atanas Atanasov BG Kolev BG Lada VFTS
10 Pachev BG Panchev BG Lada VFTS

Hebros 2-10th
02 Ilia Chubrikov BG Zhivko Dimitrov BG Renault 5 Turbo
03 Radoslav Petkov BG Nedeltcho/Nikolai Monchev BG Nissan 240RS
04 Błażej Krupa PL Piotr Mystkowski PL Renault 11 Turbo
05 Georgi Petrov BG Ivan Tonev BG Lada VFTS
06 Ilian Toplodolski BG Chakarov BG Lada VFTS
07 Gheorghe Urdea RO Dacian Banca RO Dacia 1310
08 Markov BG Todorov BG Lada 2105
09 Nikolai Ganchev BG Alexander Radovanov BG Lada 2105
10 Todor Kiriakov BG Kolev BG Lada 2105

Lucien Bianchi 2-10th
02 Guy Colsoul B Aalin Lopes B Opel Manta 400
03 Guy Hendrickx B Massaux B Porsche 911 SC
04 Stig Andervang S André Schoonenwolf NL Ford Escort RS Turbo
05 Jan van der Marel NL Anja Beltzer NL Opel Manta 400
06 Marc Soulet B Philippe Willem B Porsche 911SC
07 Dirk Vermeersch B Georges van Oosten B Toyota Corolla GT
08 Jean Pierre van de Wauwer B Yves Bozet B Audi 80 Quattro
09 Deschesnes B Michaux B Opel Adcona 400
10 Vercauteren B Herman De Maegd B Opel Manta

Algarve 2-10th
02 Joaquim Moutinho P Edgar Fortes P Renault 5 Turbo
03 Carlos Bica P Luis Alegria P Ford Escort RS
04 Inverno Amaral P Joaquim Neto P Citroën Visa Tropheé
05 Jean-Louis Marteil F Philippe Bellanger F Citroën Visa Mille Pistes
06 Antonio Gomes Coutinho P Antonio Manuel P Toyota Corolla GT 16v
07 Ramiro Fernandes P Antonio Germano Cruz Monteiro P Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC
08 Antonio Segurado P Rui Bevilacqua P Renault 11 Turbo
09 Gaby Goudezeune B Serge Messine B Opel Ascona
10 José Moreno P Antonio Pereira P Opel Corsa

Condroz 2-10th
02 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B Porsche 911SC RS
03 Guy Frequelin F "Tilber" MC Opel Manta 400
04 Guy Colsoul B Aalin Lopes B Opel Manta 400
05 Thierry Reginster B Georges Biar B Porsche 911SC
06 Lars-Erik Walfridsson S Olsson S Renault 5 Turbo
07 José Lareppe B Patrick Jamar B Opel Ascona 2000i
08 Nelissen Thierry/Thierie? Opel Ascona 400
09 Deschesnes B Michaux B Opel Ascona 400
10 Yvan Viaene B Dumortier B Opel Ascona 400

and some missing names...
Boucles SPA: 7. Klaus Fritzinger (DEU)/U. Gartner (D)
Boucles SPA: 10. Jacky Dortu (BEL)/R. Simon (B)
Sachs Winter: 7. ??? Zimmermann (???)/??? Buchenleit (???)
Saturnus : 8. ??? Pockva (SUN)/Aleksandr Potapov (SUN)
Saturnus : 10. ??? Maier (???)/??? Boesel (???)
Hessen : 4. Rolf Petersen (D)/??? Kücken (D)
Hessen : 9. Hartmut Schneppenheim (D)/??? Fehlhaber (D)
Barum : 9. Hermann Gassner (D)/Sebastian Gassner (D)
Barum : 10. Peter C. Abicht (D)/Lutz Hage (D)
dalla Lana : 4. ??? Maggi (ITA)/Marco Ercole (ITA)
dalla Lana : 6. Jean Krucker (CHE)/??? Basso (ITA)
Valais : 5. Christian Gachan (F)/Alain Barecca (F)
Valais : 6. Daniel Rebetez (CH)/Lilian Andres (CH)
Valais : 7. Adriano Terrani (CH)/??? Govi (CH)
Valais : 8. Raymond Balmer (CHE)/??? Stalder (CHE)
Valais : 10. Jacques Melly (CH)/??? D'Andres (CH)

Regards
Janusz

Steve Boyd
1st February 2011, 20:30
Scottish Rally 4-10th

10 Mann Mann GB Bryan Harris GB #25 Toyota Corolla GR 16v


From memory, I think this should be David Mann in a Corolla GT.

sednem
2nd February 2011, 11:35
Many Thanks Janusz...

Here what I fund to complee 85 results


Ciocco : 05 Sauro Bertolozzi I Silvia Galleni I Opel Ascona 400
Ciocco : 08 Gabriele Frugoli/Maurizio Paroli Volkswagen Golf GTI
Circuit Ireland : 09 Ken McKinstry GB Mark Crowe Ford Escort RS
ARBO Rally : 02 Andreas Karasek A Fritz Schweigerhofer A Opel Manta
ARBO Rally : 09 Günther Hahling Appe Toyota Corolla GT 16v
Haspengouw : 08 Erwin Keller/Philippe Sicher Renault 5 Turbo
Haspengouw : 09 Nelissen Thierry/Thierie? Opel Ascona 400 (I think it should be Herwig Nelissen/Firmin Thierie same in Condroz
Haspengouw : 10 Bo Sandin (SWE)/Ulf Nordin (SWE) Volkswagen Golf GTI
Gunaidyn : 05 Crahan Karabekir TR Riza Basay TR Fiat 131
Gunaidyn : 06 Russell Morgan Anthony Panaro Opel Manta
Donau 04 Helmut Potche/Colin Kolles Audi Quattro
VIDA Rally : 08 Milan Fatsek CS Nesrota CS Lada VFTS
Hebros : 06 Ilian Toplodolski BG A. Chakarov BG Lada VFTS
Lucien Bianchi : 09 Jean Deschesnes B Odette Michaux B Opel Adcona 400 (also seen as «Doum»/«Chou») same in Bianchi (9th)
Algarve : 05 Jean-Luc Marteil F Philippe Bellanger F Citroën Visa Mille Pistes

Regards
Janusz

Movin on 1986 ERC...
- there was a Austrian rally called Semperit in the earliers 1970's (In my DB I have the last edition in 1973 as the "15th International Semperit Rally"), according to Janusz we have in 1986 ERC Calendar the "6th Semperit Rallye", I suppose there are not the "same" semperit... Can somebody clarify this?

And some missing results for 86
Boucles de Spa : 4-10th
Hankiralli : 2-10th
Sachs Winter : 2-10th
Circuit of Ireland : 2-10th
Arbo Rally : 2-10th
Rally Haspengouw : 4-10th
Volta a Portugal : 2-10th
4 Regioni : 2-10th
Scottish : 4-10th
Gunaydin : 2-10th
Bohemia : 4-10th
Vida Rally : 7-10th
Valais : 4-10th
Algarve : 2-10th
Condroz : 2-10th

Best Regards
Américo.

cvhi
2nd February 2011, 15:44
Hello, if someone can help me, i search these entry list Skoda 1977, 1982, Taurus 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, Hunsruck 1977, 1978, 1981 Arbo 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982, Welsh 1976 1977 1978 1979, Janner 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982

thank you very much
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januszsz
4th February 2011, 23:30
And some missing results for 86
Boucles de Spa : 4-10th
4. Svatopluk Kvaizar/Jiri Janecek-CS-130LR
5. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopes-B-Manta 400
6. Dirk Vermeersch/Patrick Verheyden-B-Corolla GT
7. Bernt-Inge Steffansson/Matti Hakala-S-Volvo 240 Turbo
8. Stuart Fenwick/ Riggall-GB-Manta 400
9. Jacky Delvaux/ Sevrin-B-Golf GTI
10. Yves Loubet/Ange Pasquali-F-AR GTV6

Hankiralli : 2-10th
2. Kari Olavi Sohlberg/Matti Jaasalo-FIN-Quattro A1
3. Risto Buri/Jyrki Stenroos-FIN-80 Quattro
4. Kyosti Hamalainen/Martti Putkonen-FIN-Sierra XR4x4
5. Sakari Vierimaa/Kim Vortin-FIN-80 Quattro
6. Sakari Kaliomaa/Simo Vainio-FIN-Ascona 2000i
7. Ahti Kinnunen/Pertti Hamalainen-Ascona 2000i
8. Olof Wikstrom/Pentti Kokko-FIN-Kadett GSi
9. Kari Pikkuhookana/Tapio Tuutijarvi-FIN-80 Quattro
10. Petteri Lindstrom/Jari Hyryla-FIN-90 Quattro

Sachs Winter : 2-10th
2. Oliver Schmidtke/Siegfried Kucken-D-Quattro
3. Sepp Haider/Ferdi Hinterleitner-A-Kadett GSi
4. Wolfgang Nies/Harald Siems-D-90 Quattro
5. Norbert Brauer/Manfred Haase-D-Golf GTI
6. Rudiger Kern/Dieter Ljubojevic-D-Golf GTI
7. Rolf Petersen/Andre Bockelmann-Manta 400
8. Willy Duvel/Klaus Wicha-d-Corolla GT
9. Ulrich FRanke/Heike Lappas-D-Volvo 240 Turbo
10. Rudolf Reindl/Klaus Wendel-D-Corolla GT

Circuit of Ireland : 2-10th
2. Russell Brookes/Mike Broad-GB-Manta 400
3. Austin McHale/Christy Farrell-IRL-Manta 400
4. Mark Lovell/Peter Davis-GB-Ford RS200
5. Pentti Airikkala/Ronan McNamee-FIN/GB-Astra GT/E
6. Simon Davison/Mark Atkinson-GB-240RS
7. Frank Fennell/Tom Callaghan-?-Kadett GSi
8. Andrew Wood/Mike Nicholson-GB-Astra GT/E
9. Richard Hall/Ian Beasant-?-Sunbeam TI
10. Eddie Colton/Frank Scanlon-?-205 GTI

Arbo Rally : 2-10th
2. Georg Fischer/Thomas Zeltner-A-Coupe Quattro
3. Sepp Haider/Ferdi Hinterleitner-A-Kadett GSi
4. Gerhard Kalnay/Gunther Tazreiter-A-130LR
5. Fritz Waldherr/L. Spiller-A-205 T16
6. Ernst Harrach/Harald Reitler-A-Visa MP
7. Alfons Stock/R. Scherer-D-Golf GTI
8. Graziano Quatresan/Pierro Vianello-I-911SC
9. Alois Pfeifer/Hubert Stadler-A/D-Corolla GT
10. Franz Filzmoser/Hans Mitterbauer-A-Golf GTI

Rally Haspengouw : 4-10th
4. Lars-Erik Walfridsson/Guy Briesen-S/B-R5 Turbo
5. Jens Ole Kristiansen/Ludwig Hage-DK-205 T16
6. Bernt-Inge Steffansson/Matti Hakala-S-Volvo 240 Turbo
7. Terrynn/ Hinnisdaels-?-Ascona 400
8. Nelissen/ Therry or Thierie-?-Ascona 400
9. Susanne Kottulinsky/Tina Thorner-S-Volvo 240 Turbo
10. Olivier Tanghe/Daniel De Canck-B-90 Quattro

Volta a Portugal : 2-10th
2. Carlos Bica/Candido Junior-P-Rally 037
3. Jorge Ortigao/Pedro Perez-P-Corolla GT
4. Ramiro Fernandes/Antonio Germano Cruz Monteiro-P-Ritmo 130TC
5. Antonio Coutinho/Paulo Brandao-Corolla GT
6. Jose Carlos Passos/Joaquim? Campelo-P-R11 Turbo
7. Manuel Filipe Rolo/Filipe Manuel Vaz Fernandes-P-R11 Turbo
8. Farinha/Tiago? Mourao-P-205 GTI
9. Grenier/ Foissac-?-CX GTI
10. Sergio? Mendes/ Lerias-P-Kadett 1.3

4 Regioni : 2-10th
2. Romeo Deila/Claudio Giachino-I-Samba Rallye
3. Marco Russolo/Luca Grassi-I-Golf GTI
4. Cortella/ De Sigis-I-R5 Turbo
5. Isabella? Bignardi/ Genettini-I-R5 GT Turbo
6. Fiori/ Pagani-I-Ascona
7. Paolo? Scattolon/Gianfranco? Camerini-I-Kadett
8. Troglio/ Fava-I-R5 GT Turbo
9. Lucianatelli/ Bianchi-I-Visa MP
10. Lazzatti/ Poloniato-I-Golf GTI

Scottish : 4-10th
4. David Gillanders/Graham Neish-GB-Metro 6R4
5. Russell Brookes/Mike Broad-GB-Manta 400
6. Louise Aitken-Walker/Ellen Morgan-GB-240RS
7. Simon Davison/Kevin Gormley-GB-240RS
8. Sebastian Lindholm/Juha Saarinen-FIN-80 Quattro
9. Pentti Airikkala/Ronan McNamee-FIN/GB-Astra GT/E
10. George Marshall/Lyn Jenkins-GB-240RS

Gunaydin : 2-10th
2. Ilia Chubrikov/Nikolai Manolov-BG-205 T16
3. Kalevi Aho/Timo Hakala-FIN-Quattro
4. Emre Yerlici/Can Okan-TR-205 GTI
5. Ali Karacan/Can Unlu-TR-Metro 6R4
6. Ali Bacioglu/Metin Ceker-TR-Manta 400
7. Boncho Dunev/Ilia Volkov-BG-R5 Turbo
8. Mohamed Bin Sulayem/Solve Andreasson-UAE/S-Celica TCT
9. Serdar Bostanci/Cihat Gurkan-TR-Lancer Turbo
10. B. Yurdacalisan/Cemal Kiziltan-TR-Manta 200

Bohemia : 4-10th
4. Rolf Petersen/Andre Bockelmann-Manta 400
5. Ralf Richter/Burkhard Wendel-D-Ascona 400
6. Svatopluk Kvaizar/Jiri Janecek-CS-130LR
7. Brane Kuzmic/Rudi Sali-YU-R5 Turbo
8. John Haugland/Petter Vegel-N-130LR
9. Ladislav Krecek/Borivoj Motl-CS-130LR
10. Shekhar Mehta/Yvonne Mehta-EAK130LR

Vida Rally : 7-10th
7. Stefan Kranchev/D. Georgiev-BG-VFTS
8. Atanas Atanasov/Nikola Bogdanov-BG-VFTS
9. Pavel Zhekov/Stefan Cholakov-BG-VFTS
10. Vasil Novoselski/Krum Minkov-BG-VFTS

Valais : 4-10th
4. Attila Ferjancz/Janos Tandari-H-Quattro A2
5. Jean Elie Fornage/Jean Philippe Bruttin-CH-Rally 037
6. Eric Chapuis/F. Chapuis-CH-R5 Turbo
7. Marcel Gall/ Moret-CH/?-911SC
8. Christian Gachan/Alain Barreca-F-Visa MP
9. Gregoire De Mevius/Marc Delmelle-B-205 GTI
10. D. Carron/Philippe Eckert-CH-Corolla GT

Algarve : 2-10th
2. JohnBosch/Steve Bond-NL/GB-Quattro
3. Carlos Bica/Candido Junior-P-Rally 037
4. Inverno Amaral/Joaquim Neto-P-R11 Turbo
5. Brane Kuzmic/Rudi Sali-YU-R5 Turbo
6. Antonio Coutinho/Jose Luis Nascimento-Corolla GT
7. Ramiro Fernandes/Antonio Germano Cruz Monteiro-P-Ritmo 130TC
8. Carlos Fontainhas/Rogerio Seromenho-P-Escort RS 1600i
9. Almeida Santos/Joao Martins-P-Corolla GT
10. Jose Carlos Passos/Antoni Amaro-P-R11 Turbo

Condroz : 2-10th
2. de Ville de Goyet/ Oblin-?-(11
3. Marc Soulet/Philippe Willem-B-911SC RS
4. Jean Deschesnes/Odette Michaux-B-Manta 400
5. Hermann/ Richard-?-911SC
6. Marniette/Frans Bogemans-B-205 T16
7. Stuart Fenwick/ Stuart-GB-911SC
8. Dethier/ Drooven-B-Manta 200
9. Patrick Snijers/Dany Colebunders-B-Rally 037
10. Eric Chantriaux/Valerie Chapas-F-Visa MP

Regards
Janusz

sednem
5th February 2011, 19:49
Hi,

Thanks a lot Janusz,
here's what I fund while updating 86...


Boucles de Spa : 9. Jacky Delvaux/Marc Sevrin-B-Golf GTI
Arbo Rally : 5. Fritz Waldherr/Leo Spiller-A-205 T16
Rally Haspengouw : 8. Herwig Nelissen/ Firmin Thierie-?-Ascona 400
Volta a Portugal : 6. Jose Carlos Passos/Joaquim? Campelo (Joaquim Capelo)-P-R11 Turbo
4 Regioni : 4. C. Cortella/ G. De Sigis-I-R5 Turbo
4 Regioni : 8. Stefano Troglio/L. Fava-I-R5 GT Turbo
4 Regioni : 9. Mario Lucianatelli/ M. Bianchi-I-Visa MP
Vida Rally : 8. Atanas Atanasov (Anastasov)/Nikola Bogdanov-BG-VFTS
Vida Rally : 9. Pavel Jekov/Stefan Cholakov-BG-VFTS
Condroz : 2. Gérard de Ville de Goyet/ Oblin-?-(11
Condroz : 8. Bernard Dethier/ Drooven-B-Manta 200
Regards
Janusz

Now I will need some 1987 results:

Sachs Winter : 2-10th
Hankiralli : 2-10th
Lavanttaler : 2-10th
Alpin-Behra : 4-10th
Circuit of Ireland : 6-10th
Volta Galp a Portugal : 2-10th
Scottish : 4-10th
Gunaydin : 2-10th
Bohemia : 4-10th
Vida : 7-10th
Lucien Bianchi 2-10th
Hebros : 2-10th
ARBÖ : 2-10th
Valais : 2-10th
Algarve : 2-10th
Condroz : 2-10th
Aosta : 2-10th

I will also need ERC Calendars from 1988 to 1993...

Many Thanks.
Américo

MG Rally
6th February 2011, 13:37
8/9 February 1986 Boucles de Spa - ERC Round 3 (Coefficient 2)
1. Jean-Claude Probst/Daniel de Canck-B-Ford Sierra XR4
2. Ladislav Krecek/Borivaj Motl-CZ-Skoda 130LR
3. John Bosch/Steve Bond-NL/GB-Audi Quattro
4. Svatopluk Kvaizar/Jan Janecek-CS-Skoda 130LR
5. Guy Colsoul/Alain Lopes-B-Opel Manta 400
6. Dirk Vermeersch/Piet Verheyden-B-Toyota Corolla GT
7. Bjorn Steffansson/Markku Hakala-S-Volvo 240 Turbo
8. Stuart Fenwick/Stuart Riggall-GB-Opel Manta 400
9. Jean Delvaux/Michel Sevrin-B-VW Golf GTI
10. Yves Loubet/Alain Pasquali-F-Alfa Romeo GTV6
More to follow...

januszsz
6th February 2011, 21:35
Hi MG Rally,
Thank you for your correction of Boucles de Spa'86 first names. I have one question: where from did you dig out those names: Borivaj Motl, Jan Janecek, Bjorn Steffansson/Markku Hakala, Jean Delvaux and Alain Pasquali? I am not able to fight for Delvaux, my Jacky was taken by comparision with other rallies of that period, but I am sure about Borivoj Motl , Jiri Janecek, Ange Pasquali and Bernt-Inge Steffansson/Matti Hakala - a pair of Sweedes who were 2nd in Belgium Raly Championshi 1987.
Is somebody able to point the truth?
Regards
Janusz

MG Rally
6th February 2011, 22:36
Hi Janusz,

My information came from the event report in the British magazine Autosport. I will see if I have the report from Motoring News and see what that says too. I'll scan them for you an post them here tomorow if that would help you.

David

MG Rally
7th February 2011, 21:34
Here are the reports for the 1986 Boucles de Spa for you Janusz, and I am sorry if it appeared that I was correcting you! I was merely copying the text from the results in front of me - which if you now look at them side by side, there are some differences! I will let you decide what to believe and what to ignore.

Firstly the Autosport results (below)...

http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/8026/12971139571986bouclesde.jpg

...and then the Motoring News report and results (below)...

http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/5713/th12971140851986boucles.jpg

...and finally for tonight the Autosport results for the 1986 Circuit of Ireland Rally (below)...

http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/9653/12971141271986circuitof.jpg

I will try and find some more answers for the other information that you are missing over the next few days. Hope this helps?

RobertS
8th February 2011, 08:18
'86 Gunaydin :
2. Ilia Chubrikov/Nikolai Manolov-BG-205 T16

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4382/3chubri.jpg



3. Kalevi Aho/Timo Hakala-FIN-Quattro

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8346/gun016w.jpg



5. Ali Karacan/Can Unlu-TR-Metro 6R4

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2701/gun014.jpg
+ no.8 Budai-Lajos R5Turbo

Has anybody start-list for '86 Günaydin ?

januszsz
8th February 2011, 08:46
Hi David,
Thank you for explanation and some scanns. Don't be sorry that you did a correction. That is a problem for us "historians" that some sources are not reliable... It sometimes happens with the solid newspapers, magazines or persons like f.e. M. Holmes. They all work on materials prepared by organizers. Typing of entry list was allways a secretary job... They did a lot of mispells or even stupid interpretations of names not clearly filled in entry papers. I am afraid that most of those differences you pointed were mistakes in the list journalist got to do their job. As a first try check all those names in RallyBase driver's section. It confirms all names I used with a small exception of certain Sevrin. Sevrin does not have the first name there. At the moment I don't remember where from I took his name.
To illustrate secretaries' stupid mistake there was a situation on one of Polish Rallies in the 60's. A team from Sweden was entered with the driver not announced at time papers had to be sent to organizers. Later on in the list AND IN THE PRESS REPORTS (!!!) you could read about a Swedish driver called N. Anounce.
It shows that working on old papers you have to be very carefull. It is allways better if you can make comparishion with other sources of those times.
But all corrections and such scanns as you sent are usefull. Thank you.
Regards
Janusz

MG Rally
8th February 2011, 18:17
Hi Janusz,

Thank you for being so understanding. I am not new to research, but as I am only looking for MG Metro 6R4 / Rover Vitesse / MG ZR Super 1600 / MG Super 2000 Sport results, MOST of the drivers and co-drivers are names I have seen before, so there are no problems spelling them incorrectly! I will remember next time that I must not trust 100% what is infront of me in print!

Rob Arthur used to recount a story when the Austin Rover Motorsport team checked into a hotel in Ireland in 1985. 'Have you a booking for Austin Rover?' he asked the hotel receptionist. 'No, only a booking for an Austin MacHale and an Austin Fraser' was her reply!

I will see if I have any further results from 1986 to help you.

David

MG Rally
8th February 2011, 18:19
5. Ali Karacan/Can Unlu-TR-Metro 6R4
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2701/gun014.jpg
Thank you for that RobertS - it is very much appreciated!

Do you have anymore photos of Ali Karacan's Rothmans Bravo MG Metro 6R4 please?

BDunnell
8th February 2011, 18:26
Rob Arthur used to recount a story when the Austin Rover Motorsport team checked into a hotel in Ireland in 1985. 'Have you a booking for Austin Rover?' he asked the hotel receptionist. 'No, only a booking for an Austin MacHale and an Austin Fraser' was her reply!

Brilliant!

MG Rally
10th February 2011, 23:40
Does anybody have a list of rallies with dates for the 1986 and 1987 Turkish Rally Championship please?

Thank you,

David

januszsz
11th February 2011, 08:55
Hi Americo,
You wrote: - there was a Austrian rally called Semperit in the earliers 1970's (In my DB I have the last edition in 1973 as the "15th International Semperit Rally"), according to Janusz we have in 1986 ERC Calendar the "6th Semperit Rallye", I suppose there are not the "same" semperit... Can somebody clarify this? At the moment I can't explain how it happened, but yur supposition is correct: there are two different rallies in Austria called SEMPERIT...
Regards
Janusz

januszsz
11th February 2011, 09:05
Sachs Winter : 2-10th
02 Armin Schwarz D Hans-Joachim Hösch D Audi 80 Quattro
03 Sepp Haider A Ferdi Hinterleitner A Opel Kadett GSi 2.0
04 Harald Demuth D Christian Fellinger D Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16v
05 Susanne Kottulinsky S Tina Thörner S Audi 200 Quattro
06 Ronald Holzer D Günther Holzer D Lancia Delta HF 4WD
07 Karl-Friedrich Beck D Bernd Seiter D Peugeot 205 GTI 1900
08 Klaus Fritzinger D Mario Kraitschy D Toyota Corolla GT 16v
09 Udo Schwarz D Wolfgang Drobe D Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
10 Jerry Aahlin S Johnny Johansson S Alfa Romeo 75 V6 3.0

Hankiralli : 2-10th
02 Risto Buri FIN Jyrki Stenroos FIN Audi 80 Quattro
03 Sebastian Lindholm FIN Juha Saarinen FIN Audi Coupé Quattro
04 Jari Latvala FIN Kari Takaneva FIN Audi 80 Quattro
05 Olof Wikström FIN Pentti Kokko FIN Opel Kadett GSi
06 Jouko Pöysti FIN Reijo Savolin FIN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
07 Sakari Vierimaa FIN Mikko Torila FIN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
08 Teemu Tahko FIN Juha Repo FIN Volkswagen Golf GTI
09 Harri Toivonen FIN Cedric Wrede FIN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
10 Petteri Lindström FIN Jari Hyrylä FIN Audi 80 Quattro

Lavanttaler : 2-10th
02 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A Lancia Delta HF 4WD
03 Franz Filzmoser A Hans Mitterbauer A Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
04 Karasek A Schweigerhofer A Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
05 Alois Pfeifer A Hubert Stadler D Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
06 Eddy Schlager A Ernst Rohringer A Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
07 Peter Holub D Wolfgang Jörg D Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.4 16v
08 Karl Müllner Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
09 J. Winkler E. Winkler Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
10 Langauer Kieselbach Mitsubishi Lancer

Alpin-Behra : 4-10th
04 Pier-Cesar Baroni F Andreé Tabet F Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
05 Jean-Pierre Ballet F Marie-Christine Lallement F Peugeot 205 GTI 1900
06 Patrick Bernardini F Pierre Guerin F BMW M3
07 Philippe Bugalski F Jean-Marc Andrie F Renault 5 GT Turbo
08 Patricia Bertapelle F Pascale Bertapelle F Renault 11 Turbo
09 Jean-Francois Carpinelli Pierre-Manuel Jenot F Alfa Romeo 75 Turbo
10 Bernard Orengo F Freddy Delorme F Alfa Romeo 75 V6

Circuit of Ireland : 6-10th
06 Terry Kaby GB Rob Arthur GB Peugeot 205 GTI 1.9
07 Louise Aitken-Walker GB Ellen Morgan GB Peugeot 205 GTI
08 David Metcalfe GB Watkins GB Opel Kadett GSi 2.0
09 Simon Davison GB Steve Bond GB Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
10 Graham Middleton GB Nicky Grist GB Toyota Corolla GT 16v

Volta Galp a Portugal : 2-10th
02 Lasse Gundler S Staffan Parmander S Audi Coupé Quattro
03 Manuel Mello Breyner P Alfredo Lavrador P Renault 11 Turbo
04 Pedro Sena P Antonio Guerra P Peugeot 205 GTI 1900
05 Antonio Gomes Coutinho P José-Luis Nascimento P Toyota Corolla GT 16v
06 Ramiro Fernandes P Antonio Germano Cruz Monteiro P Fiat Ritmo Abarth 130TC
07 Manuel Filipe Rolo P Filipe Manuel Vaz Fernandes P Renault 11 Turbo
08 Manuel Gomes Pereira P L. Nobre P Opel Manta
09 José Moreno P Antonio Pereira P Renault 11 Turbo
10 John Bosch NL Kevin Gormley GB Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v

Scottish : 4-10th
04 Mats Jonsson S Tina Thörner S Opel Kadett GSi 2.0
05 Stig-Olof Walfridsson S Gunnar Barth S Audi 80 Quattro
06 Malcolm Wilson GB Nigel Harris GB Peugeot 205 GTI
07 Russell Brookes GB Mike Broad GB Opel Kadett GSi 2.0
08 Thomas Engelbrekt S Jurgen Skallman S Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
09 Tomas Jansson S Ingvar Algerstedt S Audi 80 Quattro
10 Dave Metcalfe GB Paul Watkins GB Opel Kadett GSi 2.0

Gunaydin : 2-10th
02 Emre Yerlici TR Hanibu TR Peugeot 205 GTI 1900
03 Vasilis Tsobanopoulos GR D. Nakis GR Lancia Delta HF 4WD
04 Kurt Göttlicher A Janda A Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
05 Mauro Pregliasco I Daniele Cianci I Lancia Delta HF 4WD
06 Vedat Diker TR Kongur TR Opel Kadett GSi 2.0
07 Merter TR Marcopoli Okcuoglu TR Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
08 Yenisey Ficekci Dacia 1310
09 Schrimpf Hutz Peugeot 205 GTI
10 Oguz Gürsel TR Nadir Ünal TR Lancia Delta HF 4WD

Bohemia : 4-10th
04 Michael Werner D Horst Rausch D BMW M3
05 Ralf Richter D Burkhard Wendel D Opel Manta
06 Svatopluk Kvaizar CS Jiri Janecek CS Skoda 130L
07 Dirk Vermeersch B Daniel De Canck B Volvo 240 Turbo
08 Jiri Urban CS Jiri Klima CS Skoda 130L
09 Hermann Gassner D Sebastian Gassner D Mitsubishi Starion Turbo
10 Pavel Sibera CS Petr Gross CS Skoda 130L

Vida : 7-10th
07 Grisha? Ivanov BG Ivanov BG Lada 2105
08 Ilian Toplodolski BG Georgi Penchev BG Lada 2105
09 Atanas Atanasov BG Nikola Bogdanov BG Lada 2105
10 Nikolai Ganchev BG Alexander Radovanov BG Lada 2105

Lucien Bianchi 2-10th
02 Marc Duez B Georges Biar B BMW M3
03 José Lareppe B Joseph Lambert B Opel Manta GT/E
04 Mohamed Bin Sulayem UAE John Spiller GB Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
05 Vital Budo B André Malais B Renault 11 Turbo
06 Valere Vandermaesen B Julien Aerts B Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16
07 Gaby Goudezeune B Jean Callewaert B Opel Manta GT/E
08 Jean-Pierre Milissen B Gehasse Opel Manta
09 Pascal Gaban B Willy Lux B Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
10 Gregoire De Mevius B Luc Manset B Mazda 323 4WD Turbo

Hebros : 2-10th
02 Andrzej Koper PL Krzysztof Gęborys PL Renault 11 Turbo
03 Demir Slavov BG Georgi Yanakiev BG Lancia Delta HF 4WD
04 Stamatis Athanosoulas GR Kostas Fertakis GR Suzuki Swift
05 Tihomir Zlatkov BG Konstanza Tomova BG Lada 2105
06 Ilian Toplodolski BG Georgi Penchev BG Lada 2105
07 Atanas Atanasov BG Nikola Bogdanov BG Lada 2105
08 Nikolai Nikolov BG Krasimir Petrov BG Lada 2105
09 Aleksandr Mangikian BG Stoyan Stoichev BG Lada 2105
10 Rumen Gatev BG Ivan Detzibarov BG Lada 2105

ARBÖ : 2-10th
02 Ingvar Carlsson S Per Carlsson S Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
03 Josef "Sepp" Haider A Ferdinand "Ferdi" Hinterleitner A Opel Kadett GSi 2.0
04 Georg Fischer A Thomas Zeltner A Audi Coupé Quattro
05 Ernst Harrach A Harald Reitler A Audi 200 Quattro
06 Franz Filzmoser A Hans Mitterbauer A Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
07 Manfred Hero D Jakowlew Lancia Delta HF 4WD
08 Wilfried Wiedner A Franz Zehetner A Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
09 Holper Ott Peugeot 205 GTI
10 Kurt Göttlicher A Janda A Mazda 323 4WD Turbo

Valais : 2-10th
02 Sepp Haider A Ferdi Hinterleitner A Opel Kadett GSi 2.0
03 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B Lancia Delta HF 4WD
04 Eric Ferreux CH Serge Audemars CH Renault 11 Turbo
05 Christian Jacquillard CH Christiane Jacquillard CH Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
06 Freddy Oguey CH Michel Remy CH Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
07 Jean-Marie Carron CH Serge Racine CH Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v
08 Philippe Roux CH Paul Corthay CH Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
09 D Carron CH Duroni CH Lancia Delta HF 4WD
10 Jean-Paul Saucy CH Gremaud CH Fiat Uno Turbo

Algarve : 2-10th
02 Attila Ferjancz H Janos Tandari H Audi Coupé Quattro
03 Antonio Gomes Coutinho P José Luis Nascimento P Toyota Corolla GT 16v
04 Jorge Ortigao P Pedro Perez P Toyota Corolla GT 16v
05 Manuel Mello Breyner P Alfredo Lavrador P Renault 11 Turbo
06 José Moreno P Joao Martins P Renault 11 Turbo
07 Manuel Filipe Rolo P José Lemos P Renault 11 Turbo
08 Antonio Ferreira da Cunha P Carlos Resende P Audi Coupé Quattro
09 Joaquim Santos P Miguel Oliveira P Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
10 Ian Hughes GB Roberts GB Mazda 323 4WD Turbo

Condroz : 2-10th
02 Gregoire De Mevius B Luc Manset B Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
03 Jean Pierre van de Wauwer B Yves Bozet B Toyota Corolla GT 16v
04 Renaud Verreydt B Jean-Manuel Jamar B Toyota Corolla GT 16v
05 Bernt-Inge Steffansson S Matti Hakala S Volvo 240 Turbo
06 Guy Colsoul B Christian Delferrier B Opel Manta GT/E
07 Terry Kaby GB Kevin Gormley GB Opel Manta GT/E
08 Marc Soulet B Philippe Willem B Ford Sierra RS Cosworth
09 Mats Jonsson S Lars Bäckmann S Opel Kadett GSi
10 Didier Lejeune B Navaux B Ford Sierra RS Cosworth

Aosta : 2-10th

02 Fabio Arletti I Leonardo Julli I Lancia Delta HF 4WD
03 Bruno Bentivogli RSM Ilaria Hedinger I Lancia Delta HF 4WD
04 Davisod I De Leonard I Lancia Delta HF 4WD
05 Giuseppe Lampo I Federico del Rosso I Lancia Delta HF 4WD
06 Andrea Betti I Scala I Lancia Delta HF 4WD
07 Gilberto Pianezzola I Lucio Baggio I Mazda 323 4WD Turbo
08 Roberto? Benazzo I Artusio I Renault 5GT Turbo
09 Gianluigi Serena I Antonio Martino I Lancia Delta HF 4WD
10 Mario Giorgio I Gubernati I Lancia Delta HF 4WD

Regards
Janusz

sednem
11th February 2011, 11:08
Hi Americo,
You wrote: - there was a Austrian rally called Semperit in the earliers 1970's (In my DB I have the last edition in 1973 as the "15th International Semperit Rally"), according to Janusz we have in 1986 ERC Calendar the "6th Semperit Rallye", I suppose there are not the "same" semperit... Can somebody clarify this? At the moment I can't explain how it happened, but yur supposition is correct: there are two different rallies in Austria called SEMPERIT...
Regards
Janusz

Hi Janusz,

Thanks a lot.
I Keep on digging about this austrian issue... and I fund that the 6th Sempeit Rally raced in 1986 and counting to ERC (as in 1987 and maybe more) is now called the Wladviertel rally, having the first edition in 1981...
The site is still under construction, but they have allready some results... http://www.waldviertel-rallye.at/index.php?r_id=8&LNG=en
So, for sure, the Semperit rally in the earlys 70 ERC Calendar is defently not the "same"...

Best Regards.
Américo.

sednem
12th February 2011, 01:35
Hi Janusz,

I have a doubt regarding Lavanttaler 87...
08 Karl Müllner Mazda 323 4WD Turbo :
is it :
- Karl Müllner/(Co-driver unknown)
or
- Karl (driver)/ Müllner (codriver)????

Below what I've fund to complete (or discuss) 87 results...



Lavanttaler : 04 Andreas Karasek/Fritz Schweigerhofer
Circuit of Ireland : 08 David Metcalfe/Paul Watkins
Volta Galp a Portugal : 08 Manuel Gomes Pereira/José Lemos Nobre
Scottish : 09 Tomas Jansson S Ingvar Algerstedt S Audi 80 Quattro (I have Ingemar Algerstedt as usual co-driver of Thomas Jansson is it a new "Algerstedt")
Gunaydin : 02 Emre Yerlici/Ates Hanibu
Gunaydin : 03 Vasilis Tsobanopoulos/Dimitrios Nakis
Lucien Bianchi : 08 Jean-Pierre Milissen B Gehasse (In Ypres 87 I have Jean-Marie Milissen/Jean-Claude Gehasse also in Sierra Cosworth ... think this is the same team)
Condroz : 10 Didier Lejeune B Navaux B Ford Sierra RS Cosworth (I fund Joseph Lejeune/Jacques Navaux as a couple running in belgium with a sierra in 87...)
Aosta : 04 Flavio Davisod/??? De Leonard

Janusz

And I'm "stucked" in 88...
need full ERC Calendars from 1988 to 1993

Thanks and
Best Regards
Américo

januszsz
12th February 2011, 18:36
Hi Americo
Thank you for the names.
About Algerstedt it has to be my typing error. Was I thinking about something different while typing or it was late night or early in the morning?
Yes it was: Karl (driver)/ Müllner (codriver).
I'll try to help you with callendars...
Regards
Janusz

feyt
14th February 2011, 13:20
thanks

Steve Boyd
14th February 2011, 22:20
Hello, if someone can help me, i search these entry list Skoda 1977, 1982, Taurus 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, Hunsruck 1977, 1978, 1981 Arbo 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982, Welsh 1976 1977 1978 1979, Janner 1976 1977 1978 1979 1980 1981 1982

thank you very much
mlanders@orange.fr
Hi Christophe

Welsh Rally results from "The Welsh Rally" by Mark Griffin & Martin Leonard:

1976 (May 7-9) start & finish Cardiff
1 Ari Vatanen/Peter Bryant (Ford Escort RS1800) 220m 42s
2 Penti Airikkala/Colin Francis (Ford Escort RS1800) 227m 15s
3 Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS1800) 227m 55s
4 John Taylor/Mike Greasley (Ford Escort RS1800) 228m 30s
5 Tony Drummond/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800) 230m 49s
6 Tony Fall/Mike Broad (Opel Kadett) 233m 17s
7 Nigel Rockey/Derek Tucker (Ford Escort RS1800) 233m 44s
8 Donald Heggie/George Dean (Ford Escort RS1800) 236m 11s
9 Eric Aaby/Martin Holmes (Ford Escort RS1600) 239m 07s
10 Andy Dawson/Andrew Marriot (Datsun Violet) 239m 16s

1977 (May 12-14) start & finish Cardiff
1 Penti Airikkala/Colin Francis (Vauxhall Chevette) 202m 00s
2 Ari Vatanen/Peter Bryant (Ford Escort RS1800) 202m 57s
3 Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz (Toyota Celica GT) 208m 18s
4 Walter Röhrl/Mike Broad (Opel Kadett GT/E) 209m 12s
5 John Taylor/John Jensen (Ford Escort RS1800) 210m 36s
6 Chris Sclater/Martin Holmes (Vauxhall Chevette) 211m 01s
7 Tony Drummond/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS1800) 212m 44s
8 Graham Elsmore/Stuart Harrold (Ford Escort RS2000) 215m 05s
9 Pat Ryan/Mike Nicholson (Triumph Dolomite Sprint) 218m 37s
10 Will Sparrow/Ron Crellin (Chrysler Avenger GT) 218m 48s

1978 (May 11-13) start & finish Cardiff
1 Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz (Ford Escort RS1800) 227m 24s
2 Roger Clark/Jim Porter (Ford Escort RS1800) 230m 43s
3 Markku Alén/Ilkka Kivimäki (Fiat 131 Mirafiori) 231m 57s
4 Nigel Rockey/Bryan Harris (Ford Escort RS1800) 239m 46s
5 Russell Brookes/John Brown (Ford Escort RS1800) 241m 19s
6 Kyosti Hämäläinen/Phil Boland (Ford Escort RS1800) 243m 24s
7 Tony Fowkes/Dave Whittock (Ford Escort RS2000) 246m 50s
8 Brian Culcheth/Johnstone Syer (Opel Kadett GT/E) 247m 16s
9 John Buffum/Glyn Roberts (Ford Escort RS1800) 251m 47s
10 Jeff Churchill/Roger Evans (Ford Escort RS1800) 255m 08s

1979 (May 10-12) start & finish Cardiff
1 Hannu Mikkola/Arne Hertz (Ford Escort RS) 205m 53s
2 Russell Brookes/Paul White (Ford Escort RS) 210m 27s
3 Malcolm Wilson/Terry Harryman (Ford Escort RS) 211m 01s
4 John Taylor/Phil Short (Ford Escort RS) 212m 31s
5 Tony Pond/Monty Peters (Chrysler Sunbeam Lotus) 212m 39s
6 Henri Toivonen/Bryan Harris (Ford Escort RS) 214m 08s
7 Jimmy McRae/Mike Nicholson (Vauxhall Chevette) 214m 44s
8 Stig Blomqvist/Björn Cederberg (Saab 99 Turbo) 215m 43s
9 Jim Donald/Derek Tucker (Ford Escort RS) 218m 13s
10 Terry Kaby/Brian Rainbow (Triumph TR7 V8) 219m 24s

Incidentally, if anybody would like a copy of "The Welsh Rally" by Mark Griffin & Martin Leonard they can order it from here:
http://www.griffinrally.com/welshrally.html

januszsz
16th February 2011, 09:09
Hi Americo,
Here you can find ERC1988 callendar with winners:
year rally country coeff place driver driver's nationality co-driver co-dr's nationality st.No car group final time date of start date of finish number of starters number of finishers rally base town
1988 1. 23. Arctic Rally FIN 2 01 Timo Heinonen FIN Tapio Eirtovaara FIN 2 Audi Coupé Quattro A 02:48:20 88-01-23 88-01-24 69 43 Rovaniemi
1988 2. 24. Rallye Cataluna-Costa Brava E 20 01 Bruno Saby F Jean-Francois Fauchille F 1 Lancia Delta HF 4WD A 05:11:54 88-02-12 88-02-13 103 39 Lloret de Mar
1988 3. 31. Boucles de Spa Alphonse Deletre B 2 01 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B 1 BMW M3 A 03:20:53 88-02-19 88-02-20 98 52 Spa
1988 4. Sachs Winter D 2 01 Armin Schwarz D Klaus Wicha D Audi 200 Quattro A 02:10:22 88-02-26 88-02-27 89 58 Wolfsburg
1988 5. 33. Hankiralli FIN 2 01 Harri Toivonen FIN Ilkka Riipinen FIN Lancia Delta HF 4WD A 03:14:03 88-02-26 88-02-28 117 67 Helsinki
1988 6. 49. Rothmans Circuit of Ireland GB/IRL 2 01 Jimmy McRae GB Rob Arthur GB Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:03:39 88-04-02 88-04-04 75 38 Belfast-Dublin
1988 7. 31. Criterium Alpin - Jean Behra F 2 01 Bernard Beguin F Jean-Jacques Lenne F BMW M3 A 03:00:04 88-04-07 88-04-09 99 54 Grasse
1988 8. 16. Rally di San Marino RSM 3 01 Paola De Martini I Umberta Gibellini I 5 Audi Coupé Quattro A 04:07:04 88-04-07 88-04-09 84 32 San Marino
1988 9. 11. Rally Costa Smeralda I 20 01 Markku Alén FIN Ilkka Kivimäki FIN 1 Lancia Delta Integrale A 04:24:46 88-04-20 88-04-22 93 49 Porto Cervo
1988 10. 7. Hellendoorn Rally NL 1 01 Erwin Doctor NL Pierre Krieger NL 15 Ford Sierra XR4x4 A 02:16:54 88-04-22 88-04-23 100 74 Hellendoorn
1988 11. Volta a Portugal P 3 01 Joaquim Santos P Miguel Oliveira P 3 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth 03:58:35 88-04-28 88-04-30 80 21 Lisboa
1988 12. Omloop van Haspengouw Rally B 2 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B 3 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:01:48 88-05-13 88-05-14 97 53 Landen
1988 13. 19. Rally Albena - Zlatni Piassatzi BG 20 01 01 Fabio Arletti I Leonardo Julli I 11 Lancia Delta HF 4WD A 03:43:29 88-05-14 88-05-15 94 48 Albena
1988 14. 13. South Swedish Rally S 2 01 Tomas Jansson S Ingemar Algerstedt S Audi 80 Quattro A 02:38:08 88-05-21 88-05-23 167 68 Kristianstad
1988 15. 11. Rally Saturnus YU 2 01 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A Lancia Delta HF 4WD A 02:23:40 88-05-27 88-05-29 93 51 Ljubljana
1988 16. 72. Targa Florio - 17. Rally di Sicilia I 2 01 Andrea Zanussi I Paolo "Popi" Amati I BMW M3 A 03:09:56 88-06-03 88-06-06 93 33 Cerda
1988 17. 37. ADAC-Rallye Hessen D 2 01 Ronald Holzer D Klaus Wendel D 4 Lancia Delta HF 4WD A 03:15:02 88-06-03 88-06-04 126 78 Bad Hersfeld - Kirchheim
1988 18. 9. Rallye des Garrigues Languedoc-Roussillon F 20 01 Francois Chatriot F Michel Perin F 9 BMW M3 A 04:07:32 88-06-03 88-06-04 101 53 Nimes
1988 19. 43. British Midland Scottish Rally GB 3 01 Jimmy McRae GB Rob Arthur GB Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:51:51 88-06-11 88-06-13 92 44 Glasgow
1988 20. 18. Barum Tribec Rally CS 2 01 01 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A Lancia Delta HF 4WD A 03:03:57 88-06-17 88-06-18 117 58 Gottwaldov
1988 21. 24. 24 Heures d'Ypres B 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B 6 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:41:09 88-06-24 88-06-26 137 73 Ypres
1988 22. 17. Günaydin Rally TR 2 01 01 Emre Yerlici TR Can Okan TR Audi Coupé Quattro A 03:45:05 88-06-25 88-06-27 65 29 Istanbul
1988 23. 15. Rally Bohemia CS 3 01 01 Erwin Weber D Matthias Feltz D 1 Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v A 04:34:44 88-07-01 88-07-03 87 50 Mlada Boleslav
1988 24. 45. Rajd Polski PL 2 01 Marc Soulet B Philippe Willem B 5 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:59:12 88-07-08 88-07-10 79 45 Wrocław
1988 25. 16. Rally Della Lana I 3 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I 1 Lancia Delta Integrale A 03:47:32 88-07-14 88-07-15 86 27 Biella
1988 26. 7. ADAC Rallye Deutschland D 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B 5 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 04:01:57 88-07-21 88-07-24 106 82 St Wendel
1988 27. 18. International Rallye Vida BG 1 01 Alexandros Maniatopoulos - "Leonidas" GR Maria Pavli-Korre GR 3 BMW M3 A 01:19:23 88-07-30 88-07-31 82 62 Vidin
1988 28. 21. Hunsrück Rallye D 3 01 Ronald Holzer D Klaus Wendel D 4 Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 04:26:10 88-08-05 88-08-06 128 58 Trier
1988 29. 29. Rali Vinho da Madeira P 20 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B 2 BMW M3 A 04:14:35 88-08-05 88-08-07 95 43 Funchal
1988 30. 13. Rally ELPA Halkidikis GR 20 01 Fabrizio Tabaton I Luciano Tedeschini I 1 Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:57:39 88-08-29 88-09-01 75 29 Porto Carras
1988 31. 9. Rally Piancavallo I 2 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I 2 Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:42:35 88-09-02 88-09-03 71 37 Piancavallo
1988 32. 19. Criterium Lucien Bianchi Rally B 2 01 Marc Soulet B Philippe Willem B 1 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:45:05 88-09-02 88-09-04 68 43 Charleroi
1988 33. Rallye du Mont Blanc F 1 01 Didier Auriol F Bernard Occelli F 2 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:24:33 88-09-02 88-09-04 172 101 Annecy
1988 34. 17. Rally Hebros BG 2 01 Attila Ferjancz H Janos Tandari H 1 Audi Coupé Quattro A 02:41:35 88-09-04 88-09-09 82 39 Plovdiv
1988 35. 26. Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally GBM 20 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B 2 BMW M3 A 03:30:38 88-09-14 88-09-16 106 62 Douglas
1988 36. 21. YU Rally YU 1 01 Branislav "Brane" Küzmić YU Janez Banić YU 1 Renault 5 GT Turbo A 03:05:36 88-09-15 88-09-18 81 59 Bagina Pasta
1988 37. 25. Rallye Principe de Asturias E 2 01 Alessandro "Alex" Fiorio I Luigi Pirollo I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:54:12 88-09-16 88-09-18 62 30 Oviedo
1988 38. 16. Rothmans Cyprus Rally CY 20 01 Björn Waldegaard S Fred Gallagher GB 1 Toyota Celica 2000 GT-4 A 06:38:09 88-09-23 88-09-25 83 33 Nicosia
1988 39. 24. Rallye d'Antibes F 3 01 Bernard Beguin F Jean-Jacques Lenne F BMW M3 A 04:34:02 88-10-06 88-10-08 99 48 Antibes
1988 40. 32. Arbö-Steiermark Rally A 1 01 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A Lancia Delta Integrale A 01:59:06 88-10-21 88-10-22 45 28 Liezen-Admont
1988 41. 29. Rallye International du Valais CH 2 01 01 Philippe Roux CH Paul Corthay CH Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:48"38 88-10-27 88-10-29 77 37 Martigny
1988 42. 18. Gigante-Algarve Rally P 2 01 Bento Amaral P Rui Bevilacqua P Renault 11 Turbo A 04:17:26 88-10-29 88-10-30 54 25 Vilamoura - Armacao de Pera
1988 43. 12. Rallye El Corte Ingles E 3 01 Carlos Sainz E Luis Moya E 2 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 04:21:53 88-10-29 88-10-31 72 35 Las Palmas
1988 44. 8. Internazionale Semperit Rallye A 1 01 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A 1 Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 02:15:24 88-11-10 88-11-13 90 55 Waidhofen
1988 45. 15. Rallye du Condroz B 2 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B BMW M3 A 03:05:05 88-11-11 88-11-13 130 74 Huy
1988 46. 34. Rallye du Var F 2 01 Didier Auriol F Bernard Occelli F 2 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:29:26 88-11-25 88-11-27 181 100 Ste. Maxime
1988 47. Rally d'Aosta I 2 01 Remo Celesia I Giorgio Frassy I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 04:06:15 88-11-25 88-11-27 90 46 St. Vincent

Regards
Janusz

januszsz
16th February 2011, 09:10
and 1989:

1989 1. 24. Arctic Rally FIN 5 01 Tommi Mäkinen FIN Timo Hantunen FIN Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 02:59:52 89-01-27 89-01-28 83 40 Rovaniemi
1989 2. 25. Rallye Cataluna-Costa Brava E 20 01 Yves Loubet F Jean-Marc Andrie F Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 05:27:58 89-02-09 89-02-11 88 42 Lloret de Mar
1989 3. 32. Boucles de Spa Alphonse Deletre B 5 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B Toyota Celica GT-4 A 03:08:54 89-02-17 89-02-19 86 43 Spa
1989 4. Sachs Winter D 5 01 Ronald Holzer D Klaus Wendel D Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 01:48:10 89-02-24 89-02-25 48 34 Hameln
1989 5. 34. Hankiralli FIN 5 01 Mikael Sundström FIN Juha Repo FIN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo A 03:08:13 89-02-24 89-02-26 135 70 Helsinki
1989 6. 13. Rally Mille Miglia I 5 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:42:04 89-03-16 89-03-18 120 66 Brescia
1989 7. 39. Circuit des Ardennes B 5 01 Marc Duez B Alain Lopes B BMW M3 A 03:00:01 89-03-17 89-03-19 83 54 Dinant
1989 8. 50. BIF Circuit of Ireland GB 5 01 Jimmy McRae GB Rob Arthur GB Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:47:10 89-03-25 89-03-27 71 50 Belfast - Dun Laogharie
1989 9. 32.Criterium Alpin - Jean Behra F 5 01 Francois Chatriot F Michel Perin F BMW M3 A 02:59:57 89-04-06 89-04-08 123 74 Grasse
1989 10. 12. Rally Costa Smeralda I 20 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 04:48:51 89-04-12 89-04-14 104 36 Porto Cervo
1989 11. 8. Hellendoorn Rally NL 2 01 Erwin Doctor NL Theo Badenberg NL Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:11:09 89-04-21 89-04-22 117 74 Hellendoorn
1989 12. Volta Galp a Portugal P 10 01 Carlos Bica P Fernando Prata P Lancia Delta HF 4WD A 04:41:48 89-04-27 89-04-30 66 13 Lisboa
1989 13. Omloop van Haspengouw Rally B 5 01 Jean-Pierre van de Wauwer B Luc Manset B Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:48:25 89-05-04 89-05-06 91 55 Landen
1989 14. 73. Targa Florio - 18. Rally di Sicilia I 5 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 02:49:18 89-05-05 89-05-07 75 37 Cerda
1989 15. 14. South Swedish Rally S 10 01 Kenneth Eriksson S Staffan Parmander S Toyota Celica GT-4 A 02:22:46 89-05-12 89-05-14 151 88 Kristianstad
1989 16. 20. Rally Albena - Zlatni Piassatzi BG 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B 3 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:35:27 89-05-13 89-05-15 80 41 Albena
1989 17. 38. ADAC-Rallye Hessen D 5 01 Josef "Sepp" Haider A Ferdinand "Ferdi" Hinterleitner A Opel Kadett GSi 16v A 02:42:23 89-05-26 89-05-27 96 61 Bad Hersfeld
1989 18. 12. Rally Saturnus YU 5 01 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:00:57 89-05-26 89-05-27 106 54 Ljubljana
1989 19. 10. Rallye des Garrigues Languedoc-Roussillon F 20 01 Bruno Saby F Daniel Grataloup F Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 06:08:14 89-06-02 89-06-04 69 36 Nimes
1989 20. 44. RSAC Scottish Rally GB 10 01 David Llewellin GB Phil Short GB Toyota Celica GT-4 A 03:36:40 89-06-09 89-06-12 76 47 Glasgow
1989 21. 19. Barum Rally CS 5 01 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A 1 Lancia Delta Integrale A 03:01:16 89-06-16 89-06-18 105 56 Gottwaldov
1989 22. 18. Rally Hebros BG 5 01 Attila Ferjancz H Janos Tandari H Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 02:33:13 89-06-23 89-06-25 88 46 Plovdiv
1989 23. 25. 24 Heures d'Ypres B 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:50:35 89-06-23 89-06-25 144 46 Ypres
1989 24. 18. Günaydin Rally TR 2 01 Emre Yerlici TR Can Okan TR Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:02:09 89-06-29 89-07-02 54 25 Istanbul
1989 25. 22. Hunsrück Rallye D 10 01 Armin Schwarz D Klaus Wicha D Audi 200 Quattro A 04:31:05 89-07-06 89-07-07 100 46 Trier
1989 26. 46. Rajd Polski PL 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B 4 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:30:54 89-07-07 89-07-08 93 46 Wrocław
1989 27. 16. Rally Bohemia CS 10 01 Raimund "Mundl" Baumschlager A Ruben Zeltner A Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v A 03:58:39 89-07-13 89-07-15 116 54 Mlada Boleslav
1989 28. 8. ADAC Rallye Deutschland D 20 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B 3 Toyota Celica GT-4 A 03:42:43 89-07-20 89-07-23 81 43 St. Wendel
1989 29. 17. Rally Della Lana I 5 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:58:39 89-07-27 89-07-30 90 34 Biella
1989 30. 30. Rali Vinho da Madeira P 20 01 Yves Loubet F Jean-Marc Andrie F Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 04:00:16 89-08-04 89-08-06 92 44 Funchal
1989 31. 19. International Rallye Vida BG 2 01 Roberto Calderoli I Massimo Trombi I 5 Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 01:20:49 89-08-05 89-08-06 82 46 Vidin
1989 32. 14. ELPA Rally Halkidiki GR 20 01 Yves Loubet F Jean-Marc Andrie F Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:45:18 89-08-29 89-08-30 64 39 Porto Carras
1989 33. 10. Rally Piancavallo I 10 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 04:48:32 89-08-31 89-09-03 97 35 Piancavallo
1989 34. Rallye du Mont Blanc F 2 01 Francois Chatriot F Michel Perin F BMW M3 A 03:15:16 89-09-01 89-09-03 121 64 24. Rallye du Mont Blanc 1972
1989 35. 26. Rallye Principe de Asturias E 5 01 Josep "Pepe" Bassas E Antonio Rodriguez E BMW M3 A 03:53:27 89-09-08 89-09-10 95 45 Oviedo
1989 36. 27. Tudor Webasto Manx International Rally GBM 20 01 Russell Brookes GB Neil Wilson GB Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:42:10 89-10-12 89-10-15 111 65 Douglas
1989 37. 22. YU Rally YU 2 01 Branislav "Brane" Küzmić YU Janez Banić YU Renault 5 GT Turbo A 03:20:18 89-10-22 89-10-23 69 51 Bajina Basta
1989 38. 17. Cyprus Rally CY 20 01 Yves Loubet F Jean-Marc Andrie F Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 06:35:37 89-10-22 89-10-24 72 34 Nicosia
1989 39. 25. Rallye d'Antibes F 10 01 Francois Chatriot F Michel Perin F BMW M3 A 04:31:41 89-10-28 89-10-30 86 39 Antibes
1989 40. 30. Rallye International du Valais CH 5 01 Christian Jacquillard CH Christiane Jacquillard CH Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:40:14 89-10-27 89-10-28 76 39 Martigny
1989 41. 19. Volta ao Algarve Rally P 5 01 Joaquim Santos P Miguel Oliveira P Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:45:32 89-10-27 89-10-28 52 22 Senhora da Rocha
1989 42. 13. Rallye El Corte Ingles E 10 01 Carlos Sainz E Luis Moya E Toyota Celica GT-4 A 04:15:01 89-10-27 89-10-29 69 41 Las Palmas
1989 43. 9. Internazionale Semperit Rallye A 2 01 Franz Wittmann A Jörg Pattermann A Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 02:13:45 89-11-09 89-11-11 90 54 Waidhofen
1989 44. 17. Rally di San Marino RSM 10 01 01 Giuseppe Grossi I Alessandro Mari I Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:40:36 89-11-10 89-11-11 70 32 San Marino
1989 45. 16. Rallye du Condroz B 5 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B Toyota Celica GT-4 A 02:56:17 89-11-10 89-11-12 164 101 Huy
1989 46. Valeo E 2 01 Carlos Sainz E Luis Moya E Toyota Celica GT-4 A 02:31:56 89-11-11 89-11-12 97 37 Madrid
1989 47. 35. Rallye du Var F 5 01 Francois Chatriot F Michel Perin F BMW M3 A 03:28:06 89-11-26 89-11-26 147 73 Sainte-Maxime

Regards
Janusz

januszsz
16th February 2011, 09:11
and 1990:

and 1990:

1990 1. 25. Arctic Rally FIN 5 01 Antero Laine FIN Risto Virtanen FIN Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:08:11 90-01-26 90-01-28 86 43 Rovaniemi
1990 2. 26. Rallye Cataluna-Costa Brava E 20 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 05:55:47 90-02-15 90-02-17 80 29 Lloret de Mar
1990 3. 33. Boucles de Spa Alphonse Deletre B 5 01 Bruno Saby F Daniel Grataloup F Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:08:38 90-02-15 90-02-17 93 51 Spa
1990 4. 9. Rally Finnskog Vinter N 2 01 Roar Vannebo N Bent R. Jacobsen N Mazda 323 4WD Turbo A 02:44:57 90-02-16 90-02-17 130 78 Kongsvinger
1990 5. Sachs Winter D 5 01 Josef "Sepp" Haider A Ferdinad "Ferdi" Hinterleitner A Opel Kadett GSi 16v A 01:11:52 90-02-23 90-02-24 41 30 Hameln
1990 6. 35. Hankiralli FIN 10 01 Mikael Sundström FIN Juha Repo FIN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo A 03:36:30 90-02-23 90-02-25 109 49 Helsinki
1990 7. 11. Rallye des Garrigues Languedoc-Roussillon F 20 01 Francois Chatriot F Michel Perin F BMW M3 A 04:30:45 90-03-16 90-03-18 90 42 Nimes
1990 8. 40. Circuit des Ardennes-Challenge Lotto B 5 01 Marc Duez B Yves Bozet B Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:02:40 90-03-16 90-03-18 122 65 Dinant
1990 9. 14. Rally Mille Miglia I 5 01 Piero Liatti I Luciano Tedeschini I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:20:05 90-03-16 90-03-17 117 45 Brescia
1990 10. Sierra Morena-Andalucia E 2 01 Jesus "Chus" Puras E José Arrarte E Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 02:11:13 90-03-17 90-03-18 97 58 Cordoba
1990 11. 13. Rally Costa Smeralda I 20 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 04:35:43 90-04-04 90-04-06 90 43 Porto Cervo
1990 12. 33. Criterium Alpin - Jean Behra F 5 01 Francois Chatriot F Michel Perin F BMW M3 A 02:56:00 90-04-05 90-04-08 101 60 Grasse
1990 13. 51. BIF Circuit of Ireland GB 5 01 David Llewellin GB Phil Short GB Toyota Celica GT-4 A 03:32:01 90-04-12 90-04-16 70 41 Belfast - Dun Laogharie
1990 14. 9. Holland Hellendoorn Rally NL 2 01 Erwin Doctor NL Theo Badenberg NL Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:06:13 90-04-27 90-04-28 127 71 Hellendoorn
1990 15. 74. Targa Florio - 19. Rally di Sicilia I 5 01 Piero Liatti I Luciano Tedeschini I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 01:56:28 90-04-27 90-04-29 112 60 Palermo-Cerda
1990 16. Volta a Portugal P 10 01 Antonio Gomes Coutinho P Candido Junior P Toyota Celica GT-4 A 04:46:29 90-05-02 90-05-06 50 13 Lisboa
1990 17. 21. Rally Albena - Zlatni Piassatzi BG 20 01 Fabrizio Tabaton I Maurizio Imerito I 2 Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:05:41 90-05-12 90-05-13 53 29 Albena
1990 18. 13. Rally Saturnus YU 5 01 Georg Fischer A Thomas Zeltner A Audi 200 Quattro A 03:00:34 90-05-25 90-05-26 106 60 Ljubljana
1990 19. 12 Uren van Haspengouw Rally B 5 01 Marc Duez B Yves Bozet B Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:44:59 90-05-25 90-05-26 82 51 Landen
1990 20. 15. South Swedish Rally S 5 01 Mats Jonsson S Lars Bäckmann S Toyota Celica GT-4 A 02:42:34 90-06-01 90-06-03 167 77 Kristianstad
1990 21. 45. CHI Scottish Rally GB 10 01 David Llewellin GB Phil Short GB Toyota Celica GT-4 A 03:51:44 90-06-09 90-06-11 53 31 Glasgow
1990 22. 39. ADAC-Rallye Hessen D 5 01 Ronald Holzer D Klaus Wendel D Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 02:16:35 90-06-15 90-06-16 101 66 Bad Hersfeld
1990 23. 20. Barum Rally CS 10 01 Mikael Sundström FIN Juha Repo FIN Mazda 323 4WD Turbo A 03:33:01 90-06-15 90-06-16 110 44 Zlin
1990 24. 19. Rally Hebros BG 5 01 Roberto Calderoli I Massimo Trombi I Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 02:31:48 90-06-23 90-06-24 64 31 Plovdiv
1990 25. 19. Günaydin Rally TR 5 01 Philippe Bugalski F Denis Giraudet F Renault 11 Turbo A 02:48:44 90-06-29 90-06-30 63 15 Istanbul
1990 26. 26. 24 Heures d'Ypres B 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:45:20 90-06-30 90-07-01 176 52 Ypres
1990 27. 47. Rajd Polski PL 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B 1 Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:46:10 90-07-06 90-07-07 53 29 Wrocław
1990 28. 23. Hunsrück Rallye D 10 01 Ronald Holzer D Klaus Wendel D Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 04:17:18 90-07-06 90-07-07 65 31 Trier
1990 29. 9. ADAC Rallye Deutschland D 20 01 Robert Droogmans B Ronny Joosten B 2 Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:35:09 90-07-19 90-07-21 106 61 Adenau - Nürburgring
1990 30. 18. Rally Della Lana I 5 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:40:44 90-07-26 90-07-28 159 63 Biella
1990 31. 31. Rali Vinho da Madeira P 20 01 Fabrizio Tabaton I Maurizio Imerito I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:49:39 90-08-03 90-08-05 100 49 Funchal
1990 32. 15. ELPA Rally Halkidiki GR 20 01 Michele Rayneri I Loris Roggia I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:43:33 90-08-27 90-08-30 64 33 Porto Carras
1990 33. 11. Rally Piancavallo I 10 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 04:18:35 90-08-30 90-09-01 86 39 Piancavallo
1990 34. Rallye du Mont Blanc F 2 01 Bruno Saby F Daniel Grataloup F Lancia Delta HF Integrale A 03:13:55 90-09-07 90-09-08 97 54 Morzine
1990 35. 27. Rallye Principe de Asturias E 5 01 Jesus "Chus" Puras E José Arrarte E Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:27:50 90-09-07 90-09-09 85 45 Oviedo
1990 36. 28. Manx International Rally GBM 20 01 Russell Brookes GB Neil Wilson GB Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 03:42:21 90-09-11 90-09-14 96 53 Douglas
1990 37. 23. YU Rally YU 2 01 Branislav "Brane" Küzmić YU Marjan Ramovz YU Renault 5 GT Turbo A 03:30:26 90-09-21 90-09-23 68 34 Bajina Basta
1990 38. 18. Cyprus Rally CY 20 01 Dimi Mavropoulos CY Nicos Antoniades CY Audi Coupé Quattro A 06:36:55 90-09-21 90-09-23 73 34 Nicosia
1990 39. 26. Rallye d'Antibes - Rallye d'Azur F 10 01 Pier-Cesar Baroni F Philippe David F Ford Sierra RS Cosworth A 04:37:50 90-09-26 90-09-29 94 53 Antibes
1990 40. 14. Rallye El Corte Ingles E 10 01 Josep "Pepe" Bassas E Antonio Rodriguez E BMW M3 A 04:03:57 90-10-25 90-10-27 67 35 Las Palmas
1990 41. 20. Volta ao Algarve Rally P 5 01 Antonio Gomes Coutinho P José Luis Nascimento P Toyota Celica GT-4 A 03:51:25 90-10-25 90-10-28 40 20 Faro - Lagoa
1990 42. 31. Rallye International du Valais CH 5 01 Josef "Sepp" Haider A Christian Geistdörfer D Opel Kadett GSi 16v A 03:26:53 90-10-25 90-10-28 75 45 Martigny
1990 43. 17. Rally Bohemia CS 5 01 Raimund "Mundl" Baumschlager A Ruben Zeltner A Volkswagen Rallye Golf G60 A 02:33:52 90-11-02 90-11-03 51 33 Mlada Boleslav
1990 44. 17. Rallye du Condroz B 5 01 Patrick Snijers B Dany Colebunders B Toyota Celica GT-4 A 03:03:59 90-11-02 90-11-03 135 81 Huy
1990 45. 18. Rally di San Marino RSM 10 01 Michele Gregis I Massimo Ciceri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 04:29:43 90-11-09 90-11-11 115 44 San Marino
1990 46. 10. Internazionale Semperit Rallye A 2 01 Josef "Sepp" Haider A Christian Geistdörfer D Opel Kadett GSi 16v A 01:54:49 90-11-08 90-11-10 116 75 Waidhofen
1990 47. Valeo E 2 01 Dario Cerrato I Giuseppe Cerri I Lancia Delta HF Integrale 16v A 03:06:37 90-11-10 90-11-11 98 49 Madrid
1990 48. 36. Rallye du Var F 5 01 Bruno Saby F Daniel Grataloup F Lancia Delta Integrale A 03:20:05 90-11-23 90-11-25 152 78 Toulon

That's it for now.
Regards
Janusz

sednem
16th February 2011, 22:02
Hi Janusz

Many thaks for the calendars, some update for you...

1988 :
39º Volta Galp a Portugal
18º Rali SG Gigante / Algarve

1989 :
40º Volta Galp a Portugal
19º Rali SG Gigante / Algarve

And now I have a doubt regarding the ARBÖ Rally...
For 1988 you say 32. Arbö-Steiermark Rally, but first edition of Arbö-Steiermark was held in 1979... (http://www.arboe-rallye.at).
In the other hand there was an ARBÖ rally in the ERC since 1977...
IMO there where 2 different ARBÖ rally in Austria, and maybe both where ERC races...
Sometime ago I've fund (don't remember in wich forum) an 87 calendar with the "9° Arbo Rally" and I've remarked that until 1986 ERC ARBO Rally was held in april and for 1987, 88 and 89 ERC's ARBO rally is in september (just like 38th Arbö-Steiermark: 23-24 september 2011...).
So here's my gess for the ERC's ARBO:
until 1986 ARBO-??? Rally
since 1987 ARBÖ-Steiermark Rally
what do you think about this???

Best regards
Américo.

sednem
17th February 2011, 09:01
Hi,

Missing results for 1988 ERC...

Boucles de Spa : 2-10th
Hankiralli : 2-10th
Sachs Winter : 2-10th
Circuit of Ireland : 2-10th
Alpin-Behra : 2-10th
Volta Portugal : 2-10th
Haspengouw : 4-10th
Scottish : 4-10th
Gunaydin : 2-10th
Bohemia : 2-10th
Vida : 2-10th
Lucien Bianchi : 2-10th
Hebros : 2-10th
ARBÖ : 2-10th
Valais : 4-10th
Algarve : 3-10th
Condroz-Huy : 2-10th
Aosta : 2-10th

Thanks.
Américo.

hari
17th February 2011, 10:25
Regarding the ARBÖ Rallye question:

The event called "ARBÖ Rallye Steiermark" based around Admont / Styria was only 1988 part of the ERC.
The other "ARBÖ Rallye" in the years before was based in Lower Austria around Gloggnitz.

kabouter
18th February 2011, 16:51
Alpin-Behra : 2-10th
Top 10 for Rallye Alpin - Behra added to RallyBase today: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=4107 (first name of Boissier, co-driver of Gilbert Renoux, is missing)

Don Capps
18th February 2011, 18:12
Has there been any references to or discussion of the Glidden Tours or other tours and runs that both the ACA and the AAA sanctioned during the early years of the Twentieth Century? These very much resembled the traditional TSD format of the rally which emerged in later years. I think that these events are often -- usually -- overlooked when the topic of rally history surfaces.

sednem
18th February 2011, 18:42
Top 10 for Rallye Alpin - Behra added to RallyBase today: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=4107 (first name of Boissier, co-driver of Gilbert Renoux, is missing)

Thanks.

Here's what I fund in a french forum : 1988 - Alpin-Jean Behra - Gilbert Renoux- HENRI Boissier

Regards
Américo

kabouter
18th February 2011, 18:57
Has there been any references to or discussion of the Glidden Tours or other tours and runs that both the ACA and the AAA sanctioned during the early years of the Twentieth Century? These very much resembled the traditional TSD format of the rally which emerged in later years. I think that these events are often -- usually -- overlooked when the topic of rally history surfaces.
Hello Don, welcome to our rally discussion. I don't think the Glidden Tours have been discussed on here. But I also don't think we touched the Prinz Heinrich Fahrte and Herkomer Konkurrenze on here (although I do remember talking about them at Atlas a long time ago). So far, we've been mainly busy with sorting out details of European Championship and World Championship events, meaning that rallies before 1953 have not discussed. I think the main interest of many posters here is getting the names and numbers, and not the early history of the sport we love. Although interested in the history of the sport, I wouldn't consider myself a 'rally historian'. Perhaps the title of the thread is a little misleading, as rally results research would be more appropriate than rally history.

And Américo, thank you for pointing me to that name.

Don Capps
18th February 2011, 19:37
Okay, just curious since while I fully understand the attention given to the results, statistics, and other data related to seasons and events, which form the framework, as it were, of any study and discussion of this area of automobile competition, all that also tends to be somewhat one or, perhaps, two-dimensional at best. Plus, there is always the rather elastic use of the term "history" when this sort of thing arises.

At some point, I would suggest that an enterprising person to take the time to delve into the murky past of this sort of automotive contest from roughly a century ago. While I have little to no interest whatsoever in modern rallying, that interest dying at some point in the Seventies at the latest, my repeated stumbling over these sorts of events has made me pay more and more attention to them, their popularity -- even in America -- being far more than I had initially thought -- or even considered for that matter. One finds it difficult not to be impressed with the sheer numbers of these tours and runs during this period, certainly many more than I ever imagined. And, better covered in most cases than I would have thought, at least in the USA during the first decade or so of the past century when they seemed to flourish. Altough I am tempted to devote more time to them, I have enough headaches with the research I am conducting as it is.

FAL
18th February 2011, 23:06
I had hoped the recent revision of the forum into a separate section for History would be the opening to discuss rally history other than results (which, although I try to contribute, interests me little and nothing like as much as full entry lists do). However, we seem to be back to the previous forum layout/arrangement after a few days! (did I dream it?).
For those who are not familiar with the Colonel's contributions elsewhere, be advised we should all welcome such posts here.
Many know I despise "modern" rallying along with 4wd and count my International Rally interest back from the year (86) the UK's RAC Rally became "office hours". Despite the books that cover the period, I struggle to find adequate annecdotes from the 60s - in particular the classic European Alpine "road races" to satisfy my interest and would be in awe of someone who could get a real grip on events of 100 years ago.

Nenad Nikolic
20th February 2011, 09:23
Hello,
please I need results for next rally:

20. 6. Rallye Internacional TAP P
21. 9. International Rallye der 1000 Minuten A
22. 20. R.A.C.E. Rallye de Espana E
23. 16. Tour de Corse Automobile F
24. 24. Tour de Belgique B

Thank you in advance.

Nenad Nikolic
20th February 2011, 09:26
Sorry, for get year - ERC 1972.

Regards, Nenad

Matthewrally87
20th February 2011, 09:53
Hi Nenad...

I've only the top 5...

Rallye Internacional TAP 1972
1° Achim Warmbold - John Davenport (BMW 2002Ti)
2° Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahé (Alpine-Renault A110 1800)
3° Bjorn Waldegaard - Hans Thorszelius (Citroen SM)
4° Tony Fall - Mike Wood (Datsun 240Z)
5° Alcide Paganelli - Ninni Russo (Fiat 124 Sport Spyder 1600)

International Rallye der 1000 Minuten 1972
1° Lele Pinto - Gino Macaluso (Fiat 124 Sport Spyder 1600)
2° Gunther Janger - Harald Gottlieb (Volkswagen Beetle 1302S)
3° Herbert Grunsteidl - Georg Hopf (BMW 2002Ti)
4° Maurizio Verini - Bruno Scabini (Fiat 124 Sport Spyder 1600)
5° Georg Fischer - ??? Tanzl (Volkswagen Beetle 1302S)

R.A.C.E. Rallye de Espana 1972
1° Salvador Canellas - Daniel Ferrater (Seat 124)
2° ??? Juncosa - ??? Monaco (Seat 1430 S)
3° ??? Pavon - ??? Antolin (Alpine-Renault A110 1600)
4° ??? Gargallo - ??? Ramon (Porsche 914/6)
5° Marie-Claude Beaumont - Christine Giganot (Opel Commodore GS/E)

Tour de Corse 1972
1° Jean-Claude Andruet - "Biche" (Alpine-Renault A110 1800)
2° Bernard Fiorentino - Maurice Gelin (Simca CG MC Spider)
3° Jean-Pierre Manzagol - Pierre Alessandri (Alpine-Renault A110 1800)
4° Bernard Darniche - Alain Mahé (Alpine-Renault A110 1800)
5° Jean-Luc Thérier - Claude Roure (Alpine-Renault A110 1800)

Tour de Belgique 1972
1° Gilbert Staepelaere - "Vaillant" (Ford Escort RS1600)
2° Reinhard Hainbach - Wulf Biebinger (BMW 2002Ti)
3° ??? Adrianssens - ??? Daemers (BMW 2002Ti)
4° Jean-Louis Haxhe - ??? Tricot (Daf 55)
5° "Didi" - ??? Lopes (Fiat 124 Sport Spyder 1600)