CMR2 Neste Oil Rally Finland

[jso1985]

You know how is this, you make a mistake and you really don't like tree-huggers anymore...

The rally will be run with the following format:

Game Rally: Finland
Shakedown Stage: SS1
Day 1: Single Rally Expert Level
Day 2: Single Rally Intermediate Level

Deadline for time submissions is on Wednesday 6th August 15:59 GMT

For any questions, ask them here, newcomers always welcome

Good luck and have fun!

[tannat]

Perhaps the only event on the claendar with which I am comfortable doing with little to know recce..you just go flat out.

Distracted by MotoGP since the last CMR2 BRC round :D


By the way jso1985: your signature is incredibly appropriate after the Laguna Seca round.

If Fiat/Yamaha wanted someone to wreck bikes they could have hired me at 50% what they are paying Lorenzo :laugh:

[tannat]

2:22.15 Nudged trees on next to last sector :D
2:18.15
2:14.24 1/100th off my PB :up:
2:17.85 Kissed trees on last sector
2:17.07


Where is everyone?

[Rat]

nice times Tannat! I'll try to better that. Maybe...
I'm doing the Recce today.

[Rat]

Well I finished the recce:
2:23.78
2:30.05 rolled at double right 3.
2:27.06
2:35.13 rolled
2:24.25 changed suspension.

[Anderton]

I'll post my times up pretty soon, i've only just ordered the game off ebay hehe
Seems a really good rally game so i'm looking forward :D

[Rat]

welcome Aderton! Good to see another willing Rallyer.. Enjoy the madness that is this CMR2 Competition. I've been here for a number of years and I'm not going away!

[Anderton]

It sounds really fun, looking forward to it :D

[Frozzy]

ah this probably wont be my best rally this season i hate the rally and the darn trees *shakes Fist*

[tannat]

Is everyone still on vacation?

I'm shocked at how little attention this thread is receiving...

[jso1985]

indeed!... wake up summer's over!

Welcome Anderton! once you have the game in your hands, let's know the team you choose.

you can see full rules and other stuff(like the entry list) at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/cmr2wc/

[Rat]

I'm still here Tannat, let's Rally. I'll be doing my Rally today, hopefully..

[JTLarsen]

I love the NORF, but have never really done well here..

Day 1:
Had a really bad oversteer troughout the day, adjusting the gearbox didn't help much, neither did hitting a three or two. Perhaps I have spent too much time on asphalt in the Fabia S2000.

Day 2:
A fresh start and a much better handling, managed 3 PBs only to loose the advantage gained on the grass in two very long spins off the road.

Oh well.. on to my favorite (real life) event: Germany!!

Tannat, how about a recce thread to shake off the finnish dirt?

[tannat]

I love the NORF, but have never really done well here..

Day 1:
Had a really bad oversteer troughout the day, adjusting the gearbox didn't help much, neither did hitting a three or two. Perhaps I have spent too much time on asphalt in the Fabia S2000.

Day 2:
A fresh start and a much better handling, managed 3 PBs only to loose the advantage gained on the grass in two very long spins off the road.

Oh well.. on to my favorite (real life) event: Germany!!

Tannat, how about a recce thread to shake off the finnish dirt?




What were your settings, JTL?

I'm +3 suspension, +2 steering, +1 gearbox for stages 1-2, 0 gearbox for the rest (wingpad playstation 1)

[Zes]

I was almost going to miss my home event. I came back home from real NORF yesterday and I hadn't time to practise at all. I just finished my race and the times were terrible. Looks like spectating a WRC event doesn't help the CMR2 driving at all...

[JTLarsen]

What were your settings, JTL?

I'm +3 suspension, +2 steering, +1 gearbox for stages 1-2, 0 gearbox for the rest (wingpad playstation 1)

As I recall they were:

Gearbox - 0
Suspention - +4
Steering - +3
Brake power - +3
Brake bias - +3

Pc keyboard

The car was fishtailing all over the place on day 1, but when starting day 2 with the exact same setting there were no problems, perhaps I just needed to get used to loose surface after driving the slightly understeering Fabia (pug 206) for a while.

[Ramore]

Timecard submitted!

It was a good rally for us, our favorite in fact, although we did not have time for any preparation at all (again) and the weather was against us the first day (rain on 5 stages, 2 completed with dry tires). But still I am satisfied with our speed in the second leg of the rally.

[tannat]

I'll be competing for a spot behind Ramore, as his skills on these stages sre too much for us to handle... :D

[Anderton]

Do you use the pc keyboard tannat?

[I am evil Homer]

I'm here....back from my little break :)

Shakedown times:

2:11.94
2:10.13
2:10.75
2:14.46 - way too wide and on the grass!

Set-up:

Gearbox 0
Suspension +3
Steering +3
Brake power +2
Brake bias +3

Also finished my rally and sending times over shortly. Report to follow in a few days

[Rat]

I'll submit my times tomorrow night and a report to follow...
Had fun on this Rally..

[tannat]

Do you use the pc keyboard tannat?


Nope-I'm on PS1 with a wingpad ;)

[tannat]

I'm here....back from my little break :)

Shakedown times:

2:11.94
2:10.13
2:10.75
2:14.46 - way too wide and on the grass!

Set-up:

Gearbox 0
Suspension +3
Steering +3
Brake power +2
Brake bias +3

Also finished my rally and sending times over shortly. Report to follow in a few days

I can only hope to do 2:10s on my PS1...

Nice times, Homer :up:

[tannat]

Reporter: I see the body men have been a work, Tannat. Pranged it a time or two?

Tannat: Yes. We received a poor weather report for stages 5 and 6. What was expected to be drizzle for half a stage turned out to be rain for nearly all of each stage. I don't feel so bad for the team. We need to hire people who know their job!

Reporter: I understand you gave some spectators a scare as well..

Tannat: Coming onto a sharp right our car slid and we contacted a barrier adjacent to a farmhouse. I believe it was made of rubber as we bounced off with little damage :p

Reporter: Doesn't sound like the greatest day to me.


Tannat: For certain it could have been better. Overall we probably lost 1-2 seconds per stage today.

Reporter: Sorry to hear that, Tannat. Best of luck for tomorrow...

[Ramore]

I'll be competing for a spot behind Ramore, as his skills on these stages sre too much for us to handle... :D

I am not sure about that, we will see. I couldn't beat your shakedown time, my best was about 2:16.xx.

[Anderton]

I'm guessing Finland is a favourite of yours Ramore?

[Ramore]

Yes, it is. I did some good results in the past, but I am not quite sure about this one. I am too busy lately, and have no spare time for practice. But I am still enjoying the game very much, so it is not very important for me if I am 3th or 5 th, although a nice results gives me more pleasure and excitement when I do the next event.

[tannat]

I am not sure about that, we will see. I couldn't beat your shakedown time, my best was about 2:16.xx.

You blew me away here last year, and judging from my Day 1 I feel you have nothing to fear from me :D

[Marcel Haenen]

Marcel Haenen finishes Rally Finland

This was a heavy rally! with hardly any practice we had to driver this rally. Along the way we made some mistakes, got some light rain, but set some good PB's as well! We hope to end this eventfull rally, which is one of our favourites, with a big points haul.

We are already looking forward to rally Germany as well. As we are usually one of the fastest on asphalt, the upcoming rallies could be desicive in the championship this year.

[Anderton]

I'm still awaiting my copy of CMR 0.2. I lent it to a mate who's giving it back to me pretty soon. Hopefully it'll be here in time for Rally Germany :D

[NOR]

Rally Finland has done. My driving was a little bit dissapointing for me. Some stages were all right, but I had no confidence in the steering wheel. Two big mistakes each day made my times poor. Rollover at day two on SS6 was very bad looking. I'm really not satisfied .... Hoping for better driving on tarmacs.

[I am evil Homer]

NORF Report.

Eurosport: How was the rally?

Homer: Tough. You have to concentrate so much to squeeze those extra tenths that make a difference it's a real challenge for sure. But we set good times including a couple of PBs on some stages so can't really complain.

Eurosport: The championship is very tight, was that playing on your mind?

Homer: With the comeptitiveness of a lot of drivers there's not much room for thinking what might be you just have to get on with it, attack each stage as it comes. We did that here and I hope that means we'll get a good result for us and also the team. If we leave here still in the lead, great, if not we'll just have to try and get it back next round!

Eurosport: So how do you see the rest of the season playing out?

Homer: Honestly, I don't know. There's been times where we've won stages and events when I didn't think we would and others when I felt we had the pace to win but didn't! After Finland we have a few tarmac rounds which we always enjoy a lot but also know that Marcel, Tannat and others will be competitive. But that's good fun knowing you're testing yourself against some very fast guys.

[kabouter]

Jso, if the deadline can be postponed by a few hours, I might be able to get my times in. I should be able to try and complete the rally this evening.

[tannat]

Looks as if everyone other than Homer had a very so so rally...

Day 2 better than day 1 (no wet stuff), but still a very unfulfilling rally...

Like a non-alcoholic beer....

[Juha]

Mine was so so. No recce at all so I missed a few corners but overall it wasn't too bad.

[Anderton]

Is CMR2 the same on ps1 as it is for pc. Because it seems i will have to be participating on the ps1, as my pc is going through a few problems atm :p

[tannat]

Is CMR2 the same on ps1 as it is for pc. Because it seems i will have to be participating on the ps1, as my pc is going through a few problems atm :p


Same tracks and cars...

Regarding the gamplay it is probably best stated that the top two competitors in this championship are on PS1 and PC respectively ..

[jso1985]

Deadline extended to 3:59 AM GMT to allow Kabouter complete the rally.(that if I get the timecards before midnight GMT, I might publish the results a few hours later, otherwise you'll have to wait until tomorrow afternoon)

Also I didn't receive your timecard Rat!

[tannat]

Also I didn't receive your timecard Rat!


Rat should be waking before too long.....

[kabouter]

I just completed the rally. Boy, that was tough.

This afternoon I did a quick recce of the stages because I never spent much time on this rally before. My shakedown times show I'm not going to be a big threat to the top positions on this one...

2.24,68
2.21,65
2.21,21
x (heavy crash, going end-over-end)
2.23,18 (hit several trees but kept it on the road, more or less)

Some stages during the rally were fine, and I was lucky with the weather. But all in all it was my worst rally for some time in terms of getting off the road and hitting things. At the end of day 1 the car really was severely beaten up.

Day 2 was a little better, overall improvement of a few seconds because I made less silly mistakes. But going off on SS 8 in exactly the same spot as on the first day was perhaps the silliest mistake of all ;)

[tannat]

I just completed the rally. Boy, that was tough.

This afternoon I did a quick recce of the stages because I never spent much time on this rally before. My shakedown times show I'm not going to be a big threat to the top positions on this one...



I'm sensing a low turnout on this one, kabouter.

You'll be in the top 10 ;)

[Rat]

OK Jso, I thought i sent it earlier. No worries I'll get it to you soon. i dont think i'll be any threat to the top 10..

[jso1985]

WARNING! posts below this one may be spoilers

Stage-by-stage results are now available at http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/cmr2wc/files/

final results and standings will be published here soon.

[jso1985]

1.- Marcel Haenen ML Motorsports Citroën 36:03,57
3.- I am evil Homer Red Bull Citroën Total Sport 36:11,01
3.- NOR Two Basses Team Ford Europe 37:57,05
4.- Tannat Suzuki Motorsport 38:12,66
5.- Ramore Subaru World Rally Team 38:14,59
6.- Jso1985 Red Bull Citroën Total Sport 38:37,28
7.- Juha Suzuki Motorsport 38:54,95
8.- Kabouter Curtans RallyBase Motorsports 39:28,76
9.- JTLarsen Two Basses Team Ford Europe 40:17,44
10.- Zes Peugeot Sport Finland 40:41,58
11.- Rat Red Bull Toyota 42:31,35
12.- Tuomo Peugeot Sport Finland 45:40,66

Drivers Championship
1.- Marcel Haenen 76 (6 wins)
2.- I Am Evil Homer 76 (2 wins)
3.- Tannat 40
4.- NOR 31
5.- Steve0302 25
6.- Juha 24
7.- Cyborg_hun 17
8.- Ramore 17
9.- J.Lindstroem 15
10.- Jso1985 11
11.- Kabouter 8
12.- Zes 7
13.- JTLarsen 3
14.- PetterSolberg29 1

Teams Championship
1.- ML Motorsports Citroën 97
2.- Red Bull Citroën Total Sport 87
3.- Suzuki Motorsport 64
4.- Two Basses Team Ford Europe 34
5.- ARB Racers 25
4.- Subaru World Rally Team 17
5.- Frozz Motors Europe 15
6.- Curtans RallyBase Motorsports 8
7.- Peugeot Sport Finland 7
8.- Expert Sport WRT 1




Thanks for participating!

[kabouter]

Thanks for giving us those results so quickly :up:

Congratulations to Marcel for another fine win, to Homer for staying so close, and to NOR for rounding out the podium.

It's going to be a very exciting championship conclusion, with both Marcel and Homer on 76 points. Tannat did very well in Finland to get a 4th place and is now looking increasingly secure in 3rd in the championship. Or can NOR catch up?

I'm very pleased with scoring a point on this tricky rally. Judging by the gap to Juha this was the maximum I could get from this round. It's a shame none of my team mates showed up for this event. Magnus, Scandi, where are you? Are you already preparing for a points showing in Germany? Judging by my tarmac efforts in the BRC so far, the points are not going to come from me...

[Anderton]

Congrats Marcel. Looks like him and Homer are going to have quite a big battle for the championship.

[I am evil Homer]

Yes congratulations to Marcel once again :up: I honestly don't see how I could have gone any quicker and he's shown once again why he's defending champion! Stunning drive.

Looking at the stages i'm guessing he got some rain when I didn't when I closed the gap by a few seconds but everywhere else he was just too good.

Time to re-group and do some tarmac testing see if we can repeat our earlier form on the surface and maybe nick that championship lead back. Going to be hard with NOR and Tannat both showing great pace and I know our American friend loves the sealed surface!

Off to Germany....see you all there :)

[tannat]

1.- Marcel Haenen ML Motorsports Citroën 36:03,57
2.- I am evil Homer Red Bull Citroën Total Sport 36:11,01
3.- NOR Two Basses Team Ford Europe 37:57,05
4.- Tannat Suzuki Motorsport 38:12,66
5.- Ramore Subaru World Rally Team 38:14,59


Man! Really good competition at the top. Cheers to Marcel and Homer for the great show!

You earned this one NOR :up: Cheers! :beer:


Less than 2 seconds in front of Ramore...... WHEW!


No Steve? He was really doing well. The numbers keep dropping...

Sad thing is I'll have all my luck consumed before we go to the UK stages :(

[Ramore]

Less than 2 seconds in front of Ramore...... WHEW!


I told you that you would beat me. Me first leg was a mess, but I am happy with my second leg performance - 3th overall. But anyway, it is great to have such close times, Congrats. I can't wait for Germany, I love having a lot of grip.

[Rat]

Well done Marcel!

[Juha]

Well done Marcel!

Two points for me, couldn't expect much more as I'm not very fast on these stages.

[steve0302]

hi all

sorry i missed rally finland. i went off on hol and was hoping to get the times sent before i went, i didn't get time so i was gonna send them when i got back. unfortunatly we had to extend our holiday due to our coach being broke down. i'm back now tho so i am getting ready for the next in germany.

well done all that took part

[jso1985]

small correction on the times.

Marcel Haenen's time on SS18 is 2:16,65 and not 2:15,66, which means his overall time is actually 36:04,56.

There's no changes on the final positions