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patnicholls
13th July 2008, 22:36
I thought I'd start a thread about these two Italians who will be stars in the top classes very shortly - as an English-speaking forum we possibly tend to focus elsewhere most of the time with a couple of exceptions.

Marco Simoncelli has completely proved me wrong this year - I wasn't expecting a great deal (he'd only ever won two races before this year, both in the 125s and both at Jerez, 2004-5) and he's been simply fantastic. He had two DNFs to start the year - and one of those was the Jerez incident where Alvaro Bautista's bike broke down right in front of him, taking them both down which was pretty bad luck. There was that Mugello incident with Hector Barbera, but I don't honestly rate that as malicious - trying to break the tow on the main straight is very common. Whatever - he's leading the championship very impressively and has to be congratulated for turning it around after lacklustre 2006/7 (no podiums in either season) and has done his future prospects a world of good. Bradley Smith also told Eurosport viewers that Marco came to the Clinica Mobile at Catalunya to congratulate Bradley on his 'spectacular crash', before adding that he knows that Marco has to have a helmet size larger 'to fit all his hair in' :D

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And how about Niccolo Canepa?

He's not turned a racing lap in 2008 yet but again looks to have the world at his feet. He rounded out 2007 by taking the European Superstock 1000 title in a four-way final round shootout - pretty tough in anyone's book. He's been testing the MotoGP Ducati this year - which we all now know will have an empty seat on it at the end of this season if not before - including at the new Indy facility where he was fastest of the test riders, including Ben Spies. As well as that, he's done some testing for Xerox Ducati in preparation for three forthcoming wildcard entries, and was second quickest on both days with two-thirds of the field present. Again, not too shabby with one racing legend set to hang up his Xerox leathers at the end of the year. Niccolo also has time on his side, at just twenty years of age.

Looks like there'll be plenty of Italian talent in contention for the future!

Corny
14th July 2008, 15:58
I think Simoncelli's problem has been his weight and length, how can you be quick on a 125 with that length and weight? He's an amazing rider and I'm sure he'll be MotoGP champion on one day, 'cause his body disadvantages will be less of a factor there

leopard
16th July 2008, 10:11
Although most of bikes in the 250 cc are Aprillias, we have yet to measure quality of Gilera. Likewise Ducati, the last entrant in motogp class we found the fact that they are the strongest bike. However Simoncelli is a consistent rider.

That body disadvantagedness might be a reason he didn't have proper avoidance or alertness in case bike in front him broke down. :D

ChrisS
16th July 2008, 10:39
Although most of bikes in the 250 cc are Aprillias, we have yet to measure quality of Gilera.

The Gilera Simoncelli was riding last week was an Aprilia RSA with a Gilera sticker on it.

patnicholls
16th July 2008, 13:38
Yep, there's a bit of 'badge engineering' in 250/125s - the Derbi and Gilera are rebadged Aprilias, although confusingly they didn't used to be when Harold Bartol [now at KTM] designed them up until 2002/3 ish. The 125 Loncin (ridden near the back by Alexis Masbou and Jules Cluzel) is a rebadged Honda after a Chinese? [I think] company bought some rights to produce them under licence.

('Badge engineering' is also in NASCAR as far as I understand - all entries use the same basic car, with a fractionally different body shell on it.)

The forthcoming Maxtra 125 project is a genuine new bike, however.

leopard
18th July 2008, 10:46
The Gilera Simoncelli was riding last week was an Aprilia RSA with a Gilera sticker on it.

Thanks, this seems to be something unusual for japanese bikes which compete each other. If they give license to a sub manufacturer they will use the same name, Thai Yamaha for instance, etc.

maxu05
18th July 2008, 11:04
I hope that Canepa gets either the factory WSBK ride, or parteners Stoner next year on the factory MotoGp ride. I think he deserves the break IMO.

Corny
18th July 2008, 12:15
no, I hope Stoner will get a factory WSBK bike :p That would make it a bit more interesting on next year :p

18th July 2008, 21:45
no, I hope Stoner will get a factory WSBK bike That would make it a bit more interesting on next year



Ho, ho, ho..........dream on..........Do you believe in the Tooth Fairy as well?
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Corny
19th July 2008, 08:26
oh for sure I dream on about that! So do more people! :D