[IRC] 2009 Rallye Monte Carlo - official thread [Archive] - Page 5

swordsman

23rd January 2009, 23:39

I think Ogier was resonably fast but most important he was smart and consistent. IRC and Monte has really impressed me these three days and I look forward to see an "answer" from the WRC to this.

Ogier, Hänninen and Meeke are the three guys we should look at if you ask me. Too bad they aren't all staying in the same championship just battling the whole year :) It's nice to see three young guys doing a champ they can win in a car they can win in. The future is here - soon - and I'm starting to look forward to it again :)

tolis

23rd January 2009, 23:39

Thanks dim a lot.Elpizo na ta poume apo konta kapoia stigmi!!!!
Plaka ekana prin...
Zografou/Athens

urabus-denoS2000

23rd January 2009, 23:40

Great rally,better than any WRC in the last few years!!!!

Great coverage,great competition,lots of thrills!!!!!!

And who watched the coverage will agree that Kopecky on Col de Turini was spectacular!!!!!!!!!!! :D :D :D :D

Congratulations to Sebastien Ogier and Julien Ingrassia for their deserved victory!

urabus-denoS2000

23rd January 2009, 23:41

But for me the most impressive was Kopecky,7/14 stages without working power steering and finished 4th...........

And he was by far the most spectacular :D

AndyRAC

23rd January 2009, 23:43

The sad thing is that next year it is back in the WRC - what format will it be? They surely can't go back to the usual WRC format, or can they?
How interesting has this event been? The only 'downer' would be the lack of a fight on the final night - but that's Rallying, and the Monte.

bluuford

23rd January 2009, 23:47

Yeah great coverage! So, I hope that Eurosport will be global distributor for WRC as well. Anyway, I have never liked Monte rally and this time was no different, nothing really exciting. Nearly nothing happened after stage 1 in leg 3. Gaps were huge like usual or even bigger than usual (thanks to the weather). Gaps from 5 place were nearly two times bigger compared to last year. So, at the end it was just a teamwork and fast driving for Sarrazin to keep Jan behind.

dimviii

23rd January 2009, 23:52

Congrats to Ogier also from me.Well done with clever driving avoiding risks.
Impressed from fabias speed out of the box.Something not easy for teams even with unlimited budget.
Impressed also from Sarrazins speed.All the ss he won(5?) were with BIG difference from second fastest crew.
Good pace also from Loix,isn t easy afer too many years to be competitive with young guns(see Auriol)
About abarth now,as i am remember must be the only time in rallying to see them not competetive.They have to try much harder,cause if this year again with no results(even with the newcomer fabia) you never know what they are going to decide the marketing department(specially in crunch credit times...)
finally wrc seems to be completely amateurs in organization terms.
Must try much more harder than abarth :p :

Cloverleaf

24th January 2009, 00:00

First response:Atkinson interested in IRC drive
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72974

Alvaro_Rally

24th January 2009, 00:04

During these three days of Monte I´ve remembered why I love rallies!

Fantastic conditions and fantastic stages avoiding the weekend and coming back to the night...

And of course, great drivers and great cars. Pug is still the best car but it´s been impressive to watch Skoda´s performaces and for sure Fiat will be very competitive with little luck. And probably new brands will join...

There is so much for the FIA and ISC to learn!

wotaguy

24th January 2009, 00:07

how many budding rallydrivers are about to change thier name to seb!!!

congrads, very mature drive, shows what a talent he is, but skoda will come away from this with huge confidence, they were awesome, bring on round 2, coverage was fantastic, and i love the monte, as its so unpredicatable :)

Tom206wrc

24th January 2009, 00:08

I don't think the Pug was really the best, I'd say it's equal with the Fabia, all what really played in Monte was choice of tires at the best moment... :mark:

But for the future, as Peugeot fan, I'll fear the Skoda... ;)

urabus-denoS2000

24th January 2009, 00:11

Tom,thats the spirit we are all looking for!!!! ;)

Sulland

24th January 2009, 00:18

First response:Atkinson interested in IRC drive
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72974

Give the man a Skoda !

JAM

24th January 2009, 00:47

Anyway, I have never liked Monte rally and this time was no different, nothing really exciting. Nearly nothing happened after stage 1 in leg 3. Gaps were huge like usual or even bigger than usual (thanks to the weather).

So, not very diferent from all the other WRC rallyes. But until stage 1 from leg 3.... and even after that we saw Gardemeister retiring... it was only the man who could had attacked Ogier lead during the night.

This rally was fantastic and shown the the WRC rules are killing the sport and IRC rules are more suitable to rallying. A fantastic format of legs, and the most important a fantastic TV coverage that show to all of us how weak is tv coverage on WRC.

The images from the rally were spectacular, because rallying is driving sideways, is driving os trick conditions, on umpredictabe conditions, and Monte had all this.

I loved it!

tolis

24th January 2009, 01:15

Any videos from Monte except for the irc's site?

OldF

24th January 2009, 01:28

This remained me from some rallies from the 80’s. There could be been several minutes between the competitors but nothing was solved before the finish.

It was nice to watch online if Seb Ogier made it. And he did it. Also for the service crew I think it was more exiting for them watching it live than from some computer with only split times.

CONGRATULATIONS TO OGIER FOR A GOOD DRIVE.

Of course I’ve would be pleased to see A Finn winning this first S2000 Monte but he who’s done the most consistent drive from the start to the finish deserve to win.

Mitch555

24th January 2009, 01:41

First response:Atkinson interested in IRC drive
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72974

Very lucky team who signs this man up. Mmm... Chris and Toni. Hopefuly the rumours about Petter Solberg and Proton come to fruition also and we'd have an xtrememly competitive and healthy championship. Though that said, it already is!

Bravo to all the drivers, co-drivers, service crews, teams, officials, organisers, managers and everyone at Eurosport. You guys deserve mega "kudos". You can all take a bow, excellent job this week and it has kept our sport alive for 2009!

Rally Hokkaido

24th January 2009, 02:05

I would like to add my congratulations to Seb Ogier for a very mature drive and to all the other crews that fought hard on this most challenging rally.
Congratulations also to the ACM and IRC for giving us back a more traditional
Monte (helped by the bad weather!), Eurosport for its excellent coverage (including informative commentary by Martin and the multi-lingual Alessandro?) and lastly to all of you on the Forum (especially those who provided valuable links!) for your great company! As other have said, this rally has been a welcome change to what we have had in the last few seasons of WRC.
Finally, someone (manufacturer) please give Toni a drive or at least enough support to Astra so they can do the entire IRC with him.

24th January 2009, 05:56

But for me the most impressive was Kopecky,7/14 stages without working power steering and finished 4th...........

And he was by far the most spectacular :D

Yes!

Without Jan's problems and Juho's crash it could have been Skoda celebrating 1-2 and not Peugeot :)

But I am happy. Better to have a fast car and small problems than a slow one and a poor result.

F1boat

24th January 2009, 06:15

I watch the night stages on "Eurosport". It was brutal beautiful. I hope that they will keep them next year for the WRC as well!

Corny

24th January 2009, 09:07

indeed it was absolutely cool.. Love it

Tom206wrc

24th January 2009, 09:15

Yeah, great event, and big effort for medias to have such live-coverage ;)

bassist

24th January 2009, 12:41

The coverage of the last stages of the Monte were excellent, and the guy commentating even shut up for the viewer to get a feel of those classic roads in the dark! Pity about our man Chris, but i think he can be pleased with the pace he showed.WRC/Dave/whoeve, that`s what rally coverage should be like!!! I know it was the Monte and they pushed the boat out a bit but, it was really great coverage! Those Skoda`s were quick out of the box too!

03dublinwrx

24th January 2009, 13:55

Eurosport have to be commended for their amazing coverage..fantastic!

Here are most of the best clips!

SS12 Live:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6641/irc-monte-carlo-2009-ss12-live

SS11 Live:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6645/irc-monte-carlo-2009-ss11-live

Meeke SS8 Live:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6640/irc-monte-carlo-2009--meeke-full-stage-ss8

Auriol and Rosetti's Crash:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6633/irc-monte-carlo-2009--rossetti-and-auriol-crashes-out

Voullioz Crash:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6634/irc-monte-carlo-2009--voullioz-crashes

Basso spins on Turini:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6634/irc-monte-carlo-2009--voullioz-crashes

Sarrazin goes off:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6647/irc-monte-carlo-2009--sarazin-goes-off

Voullioz hits Tree:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6648/irc-monte-carlo-2009--voullioz-hits-tree

Day 1 Highlights:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6623/irc-monte-carlo-2009--day-1-highlights-eurosport

Meeke fastest on Snow Debut SS3:
http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6628/irc-monte-carlo-2009--meeke-fastest-on-snow-debut

René

24th January 2009, 14:29

SS11 ;)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x84sc6_mont-carlo-2009-es10_auto

René

24th January 2009, 14:49

SS11 ;)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x84sc6_mont-carlo-2009-es10_auto

Oooops ! SS 10 Montauban sur l'Ouvèze - Eygalayes :)

J4MIE

24th January 2009, 15:25

Any footage of Meeke's accident yet?

tolis

24th January 2009, 18:40

What happened to Alen?

Rally Power

24th January 2009, 18:45

Strange, haven’t read this anywhere else :confused:

http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=1073

Another doubt, Gardmeister Punto was a 2009 version?

miksu

24th January 2009, 19:29

Another doubt, Gardmeister Punto was a 2009 version?

He gave an interview before rally where he said something like "with these s2000 there isnt so much difference between older model and new, so we should have good chance..." so i think it was a year old car.

Rally Power

24th January 2009, 19:51

He gave an interview before rally where he said something like "with these s2000 there isnt so much difference between older model and new, so we should have good chance..." so i think it was a year old car.

Can the lowest perfomance of Basso and Allen be linked to the new car ???

miksu

24th January 2009, 20:14

Can the lowest perfomance of Basso and Allen be linked to the new car ???

Could be possible, if the havent done enough testing to feel comfortable in the car. Isn't that what Basso was complaining, not feeling good inside it?

Maybe they need some more experienced, all surface driver to develop the car ;)

katxal

24th January 2009, 20:39

Strange, haven’t read this anywhere else :confused:

http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=1073

Another doubt, Gardmeister Punto was a 2009 version?

according to my info...it was an MY2009

katxal

24th January 2009, 20:40

What happened to Alen?

Broken Clutch going to Monaco...

Rally Hokkaido

24th January 2009, 23:21

Could be possible, if the havent done enough testing to feel comfortable in the car. Isn't that what Basso was complaining, not feeling good inside it?

Maybe they need some more experienced, all surface driver to develop the car ;)

In an interview (SS13 or SS14 finish), when asked about the performance of the Punto, Alen commented that there were new parts coming.
Is there a limit to the number of VO allowed on one model? Could someone explain the S2000 homologation process?

noel157

24th January 2009, 23:28

Haninnen's roll on SS10:

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6433/crashkr9.jpg

cosmicpanda

25th January 2009, 01:30

excellent photo.

GigiGalliNo1

25th January 2009, 12:23

So A.Alen's retirement heading to the podium, he looses 6th place?

Am I mistaken?

http://www.ircseries.com/html/readnews.asp?id=1073

1Ogier/Ingrassia (Peugeot 207 S2000) 4h40m45.7s
2 Loix/Smets (Peugeot 207 S2000) +1m43.6s
3 Sarrazin/Renucci (Peugeot 207 S2000) +2m21.6s
4 Kopecky/Stary (Skoda Fabia S2000) +3m17.3s
5 Basso/Dotta (Abarth Grande Punto S2000) +4m28.0s
6 Romeyer/Fournel (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9) +20m30.0s
7 Burri/Gordon (Abarth Grande Punto S2000) +21m23.0s
8 Artru/Virieux (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9) +9m51.4s

Tom206wrc

25th January 2009, 12:50

Yep apparently Alen Jr retited after last stage :(

[Madeira-Rally]

25th January 2009, 13:20

Yes, he retired with clutch problems..

OldF

25th January 2009, 13:59

In an interview (SS13 or SS14 finish), when asked about the performance of the Punto, Alen commented that there were new parts coming.
Is there a limit to the number of VO allowed on one model? Could someone explain the S2000 homologation process?

Here is a link to a web site. The homologation regulations are quite old and don’t know how much they have been updated after that. I have always been wondering why the homologation regulations can’t be found on FIAs web site. Are they so secret material?

http://www.rallystar.co.za/article/articleview/2605/1/1/

Honza H.

25th January 2009, 14:13

Give the man a Skoda !

I´m not sure, if there´s yet built enough Skodas for a "crashman" like Atko ....just kidding :) :) Btw. Duval is still without a stable seat too....these two would make a really nice Skoda team nr. 2. I´m suggesting a name for it: "Skoda win or crash team" :) :) :)

Mirek

25th January 2009, 14:15

I'm back fom Monte Carlo. Realy great rally! We saw a lot of sideways action, great atmosphere (especialy the night on Turini!).

We were also lucky to see many crisis. On SS3 we saw Garde's small but dangerous off and Basso's spin. On SS4 we saw Sarrazin's off and our friend - expert on bringing back stucked cars was leading the rescue operation :) Ogier was very lucky there, he could easily be off there as well (there was also police car off before the start). On SS7 we saw Voilloz braking his wheel (that video from Eurosport was caught by our friend, whose videos You can see on http://www.autosport.cz :) ). Some cars hit the barriers on Col de Turini (for example Maurin) and Basso had a spin there.

A.F.F.: As far as I know guys from Škoda told Juho to push hard. They decided to risk as victory would worth it. I don't think they are that much dissapointed.

Anyway, big thanks to Juho and Jan to bring back euphory to Czech fans!

tolis

25th January 2009, 14:32

@ Mirek Fric:I found at autosport.cz a video from the 1st day.Have you put any videos from the 2nd and 3rd day?
Thanks.
The rally was fantastic and I am really jealous of you, Mirek...

Mirek

25th January 2009, 14:50

Yes, they will be when Nedbis wakes up (there was no time to prepare them) :D

tolis

25th January 2009, 14:54

OK, thanks!!!

Cloverleaf

25th January 2009, 15:22

]
A.F.F.: As far as I know guys from Škoda told Juho to push hard. They decided to risk as victory would worth it. I don't think they are that much dissapointed.
That's the spirit we all have been looking for!

PLuto

25th January 2009, 16:23

@ Mirek Fric:I found at autosport.cz a video from the 1st day.Have you put any videos from the 2nd and 3rd day?
Thanks.
The rally was fantastic and I am really jealous of you, Mirek...

Yes, we will put it. We have also interviews after second leg (only one day, when we were able to visit service). But in Valence was problems with internet, so we werent able to upload it and in Monte there were no internet (I am talking about hotel, because press centre was closing very early and internet connection there was very expensive).

PLuto

25th January 2009, 16:45

If you want, update of our photos from Rallye Monte Carlo: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/index.php?cat=62

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090125/thumb_Jereb_1.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090125/thumb_Sarrazin_2%7E0.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/userpics/10002/thumb_Basso_2.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090125/thumb_Basso_1.jpghttp://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/wpw-20090125/thumb_Vouilloz_6%7E0.jpg

tolis

25th January 2009, 16:47

You have done really a very good job, guys.
Bravo!!!

Audimadgeoff

25th January 2009, 17:48

Well I only arrived back home a couple of hours ago and am still buzzing from a brilliant rally!!!

3 photos from me....

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/4313/42692922rb2.jpg

Seb Ogier - brilliant to watch thru SS10!!!

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1086/76796459ph3.jpg

Garden Monster - quickest of the Fiats whenever we saw him!

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/740/12327102hc8.jpg

A positive showing for Skoda on their debut!!!

HaCo

25th January 2009, 17:54

There is not much footage of the off of Meeke and Hanninen.

urabus-denoS2000

25th January 2009, 20:11

Wow,Mirek,it looks like you had a perfect rally!

Were you with PLuto?

PLuto

25th January 2009, 20:12

]Yes, he retired with clutch problems..

Maybe it wasnt clutch. There are some rumours about accident, but we will see very soon :)

PLuto

25th January 2009, 20:14

Can the lowest perfomance of Basso and Allen be linked to the new car ???

I dont think so. Main problem was bad tyre choice almost on every stage, Basso dont like snow and poor performance by Alen.

PLuto

25th January 2009, 20:15

Hänninen

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_c701fc183da4e490aaee6df0a3be74b9.jpg

PLuto

25th January 2009, 20:15

Meeke

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_b117fdf0e58bd537a5d913ccbe789e41.jpg

Allyc85

25th January 2009, 20:23

:( Ouch, luckliy the cars wernt too badly damaged. I dont know about Hänninen's accident but considering Meekes was in 5th gear they got away lightly considering.

giangino

25th January 2009, 21:45

Photos Rallye Montecarlo 2009 http://www.avetowrc.com/

jbmarcus21

25th January 2009, 22:14

pictures about...

Monte-Carlo 2009
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/photosmontecarloirc09.htm

Fiat Abarth Tests
http://planetemarcus.free.fr/fiatabarths2000test.htm

F1boat

26th January 2009, 07:01

Hello, people, is the night stage available for download? My Dad wants to see it! Please help, if you can!

bluuford

26th January 2009, 07:05

try here. Here you can find almost all: http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/irc-player.shtml

26th January 2009, 09:17

I dont think so. Main problem was bad tyre choice almost on every stage, Basso dont like snow and poor performance by Alen.

Brazil could be a bit make or break for Alen. He should go well there, but if he doesn't..

modri dirkac

26th January 2009, 09:44

Onboard of Andrej Jereb on SS4.

http://www.a-jereb.si/video/2.php

Simmi

26th January 2009, 09:49

Did anyone ever see the onboards of the Hanninen and Meeke crashes? I dont think they got shown on the highlights stuff but Eurosport surely must have the footage somewhere?

It is stuff like this that Eurosport needs to improve on. You cant just have two of the four top drivers go out and not see anything.

darkstar

26th January 2009, 10:35

we´ve got pictures of rallye monte carlo 09 online:
www.rallye-mad.com (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_1.html)

rallye monte carlo 09 (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_1.html)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db_DSC_22601.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_1.html)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db_DSC_22811.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_1.html)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db_DSC_22291.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/_1.html)

M.S.

26th January 2009, 13:33

More MC pictures

http://www.supermotores.net/sm/fotos.asp?id=117

PLuto

26th January 2009, 14:31

Ok, our video from second leg is finished. It has 12 minutes, 100 MB. Video includes crash of Sarrazin and Vouilloz, there are also interviews with some drivers.

http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7872

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/b_d064aeea3bc2a1260dcdc87871ac9a2e.jpg

4Regioni

26th January 2009, 22:52

I like the snow in Montecarlo,especially St.Bonnet le Froid e Laborel
more foto
http://rallymania.forumfree.net/?t=36154544&st=30
http://rallymania.forumfree.net/?t=36154544&st=15
http://picasaweb.google.it/fabrally/Monte09?authkey=rUC6Bm7Im7U&feat=email#

darkstar

27th January 2009, 11:39

more pictures of rallye monte carlo 09 now online on:
www.rallye-mad.com (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/rallye_monte_carlo_09.html)

rallye monte carlo 09 (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/rallye_monte_carlo_09.html)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db_DSC_27201.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/rallye_monte_carlo_09.html)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db_DSC_24921.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/rallye_monte_carlo_09.html)

http://www.rallye-mad.com/assets/images/db_images/db_DSC_28601.jpg (http://www.rallye-mad.com/html/rallye_monte_carlo_09.html)

Mirek

27th January 2009, 22:01

Third leg video :)
http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7877

52Paddy

27th January 2009, 23:01

Just watched the Eurosport coverage of the rally this evening. I must say that I am very impressed. Its been the best Monte for a long time, not tainted with the stupid enforcements made by the FIA WRC crew. The live stages were excellent too. I also really like Martin Haven's "warts and all" approach to the commentary and he doesn't treat the fans like babies. Last year's WRC commentator (Paul King?) was going on as if we hadn't a blues clue what rallying was about. Given, though, a wider audience was what they were keeping in mind.

The series itself was very entertaining. A good mix of manufacturers and good signs for the future of S2000 if it keeps up like this. Very happy for Ogier but I think Sarrazin and Hanninen were the quickest drivers when things were going their way. Good show from Kopecky despite his steering problems and Basso put in some good times too. Olivier Burri was off the pace completely. I don't know much about him at all so I won't make any assumptions yet.

For the next rounds I expect Vouillez and Hanninen to be mixing it with the top crews. Would also be hoping Kris Meeke can give it his all and show his raw speed, and not repeat his accident of Monte. Gardemeister and Rossetti may have something to show as well. I wait in anticipation.

I'm just really excited that a world rally series has finally taken off with such success without the FIA intruding and making a hames of it. Please understand that, I'm a bit fired up :bounce:

Sulland

27th January 2009, 23:38

Found this one

http://www.avetowrc.com/Foto/Wrc/Montecarlo2009/Foto/slides/RallyMontecarlo2009%20(2).jpg

WRC1

28th January 2009, 09:34

my monte pictures:

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/02monte/

reg

wrc 1

atsiotras79

28th January 2009, 09:50

my monte pictures:

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/02monte/

reg

wrc 1

Great photos!

dimviii

28th January 2009, 20:15

best monte photos by far!

urabus-denoS2000

28th January 2009, 20:26

WRC1 photos are great!

Congratulations

J4MIE

28th January 2009, 20:44

my monte pictures:

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/02monte/

reg

wrc 1

Amazing!!!!! :bounce:

:up:

urabus-denoS2000

28th January 2009, 20:46

http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/02monte/2009_monte_peugeot_auriol_01.jpg (http://www.rallyepics.at/bilder/rallye2009/02monte/index.html)

Respect for this one!

:up:

giangino

28th January 2009, 21:37

Video Rallye Montecarlo 2009 - By AvetoWrc - online http://it.youtube.com/avetowrc

swordsman

29th January 2009, 11:26

Video Rallye Montecarlo 2009 - By AvetoWrc - online http://it.youtube.com/avetowrc

MotorSportMad has posted a video of Meeke's crash too. You can find it here http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6675/kris-meeke-crash-monte-irc-2009 or here http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/video-kris-meekes-crash-in-monte/

wwbroe

29th January 2009, 11:43

MotorSportMad has posted a video of Meeke's crash too. You can find it here http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6675/kris-meeke-crash-monte-irc-2009 or here http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/video-kris-meekes-crash-in-monte/

So that is the place Loix pick up his puncture. Chris was lucky to escape, but i was told that he rolled the car five times, and on this video that doesn't seem to be the case. Anyhow, Kronos mechanics say that car is lossed, alltough it doesnt seem to be so heavily damaged.

Audimadgeoff

29th January 2009, 12:00

I have seen the car first hand after the crash and don't really agree that it is a write off - lots of cosmetic damage but the roll cage and chassis seemed ok.

Mirek

29th January 2009, 12:18

Audimadgeoff: When Kronos says it's written off, it's written off. Belive wwbroe, he knows what he says, his info is first hand.

Daniel

29th January 2009, 12:23

]Audimadgeoff: When Kronos says it's written off, it's written off. Belive wwbroe, he knows what he says, his info is first hand.
In other words poo poo to your actual experience and views. I'll believe what some guy on a forum who's not seen the car says :mark:

Simmi

29th January 2009, 12:28

I have seen the car first hand after the crash and don't really agree that it is a write off - lots of cosmetic damage but the roll cage and chassis seemed ok.

It looks like if anything it got damaged a lot worse as a result of being put back onto four wheels!

Mirek

29th January 2009, 12:29

Daniel, You have PM.

Daniel

29th January 2009, 12:30

]Daniel, You have PM.
Now you have one ;)

Mirek

29th January 2009, 12:37

Audimadgeoff: Maybe I was too harsch on You, sorry ;)

Mirek

1st February 2009, 17:11

Another photos from one of our group :)
http://www.src.czechrallyeweb.net/pages/monte2009.htm

Mirek

3rd February 2009, 00:44

Nice video with a lot of action although something used twice:
http://www.dailymotion.com/search/rally%2Bmonte%2Bcarlo/video/x84swt_rallye-montecarlo-irc-2009_auto

Audimadgeoff

6th February 2009, 11:36

]Audimadgeoff: When Kronos says it's written off, it's written off. Belive wwbroe, he knows what he says, his info is first hand.

And I just happen to do a LOT of work with the company that insured the car, and as of yet no claim has been put through! Apology accepted.

Mirek

6th February 2009, 12:01

Sorry once more, You have PM.

wwbroe

7th February 2009, 11:55

And I just happen to do a LOT of work with the company that insured the car, and as of yet no claim has been put through! Apology accepted.

Hello there, i was only quoting what Kronos mechanics told me. When i had a look at pictures of the car it seemed not so heavily damaged to me either. Are you sure the car was insured, because sometimes they don't insure. I know for sure that the one Loix destroyed in Condrozrally last year wasn't insured, that's why i am asking. Anyhow Meeke will use BF Goodrich car for Brazil. ;)