[IRC] 2009 Rallye Monte Carlo - official thread

[urabus-denoS2000]

Auriols car looks awesome!

[alterdaxter]

http://www.jingoo.com/liste_photos.php?id_album=38141

this URL should work...

[Tom206wrc]

More pics on http://www.ircseries.com/ ;)

[Rally Hokkaido]

About 30 mins to the start of SS1, I think.
Any updates on weather, etc?

[Tom206wrc]

Less than 15 minutes before SS1 starts :cool:

[Rally Hokkaido]

it's been a long time since i felt this excited about the start of a rally!

[Tom206wrc]

SS1 has started since a few minutes ;)


There's also a live on the official website http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_menu_2009.php

[Rally Hokkaido]

SS1 has started since a few minutes ;)


There's also a live on the official website http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_menu_2009.php

thanks, tom

[Tom206wrc]

First results are incredibly long to come, though :mark:

[FAlonso]

Did basso already loose 1minute+ to Nico?

[miksu]

#5 Rossetti L. - Chiarcossi M. -> Havaroval / crash

[Tom206wrc]

Basso lost 1'20" on Vouilloz !!!! :s

[FAlonso]

VOUILLOZ Nicolas
KLINGER Nicolas N/4 22:22,9 ---
Peugeot 207 S2000 --- Peugeot 207 S2000 ---
2 2 BASSO Giandomenico
DOTTA Mitia N/4 23:42,9 + 01:20,0

It's taking the front runners about 23 minutes to complete the stage..

[Filip]

Looks like conditions are really bad, as Vouilloz's average speed is just over 60 km/h. :confused:

[miksu]

#6 Kopecký J. - Starý P. -> Jede na blinkry / technical problems

[miksu]

cars are dropping out like flies :P real monte this year :D

[Filip]

Great time by Hanninen, go Škoda!! :)

[miksu]

#8 Auriol D. - Giraudet D. -> changing wheel

[FAlonso]

Very good time from Hanninen. +2.3s

[miksu]

Great time by Hanninen, go Škoda!! :)

indeed ;) but im waiting for gardes effort!

[FAlonso]

Loix lost 50s...

[FAlonso]

And Sarrazin 56s! It appears that Vouilloz and Hanninen had a great stage indeed.

[Rally Hokkaido]

rally website results are a little faster than bfgoodrich, but no auto refresh.
any other result websites working?

[Rally Hokkaido]

Ogier !!!! Incredible time

edit: just an enthusiastic official helping the local boy ! - time has now been corrected

[miksu]

hahahha...ogier!! this stage must be in horrible condition :D

edit: ok, just a mistake on the timing....

[FAlonso]

Amazing time by Ogier!!!! 20:40,3
-01:42,6 than Vouilloz! This must be related to tyres! If not, WOW!

Edit: It had to be...

[miksu]

Not bad from the Finns :)

[Sarac330d]

Amazing time by Ogier!!!! 20:40,3
-01:42,6 than Vouilloz! This must be related to tyres! If not, WOW!

Edit: It had to be...


Ogier`s time: 22:47.5

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_menu_2009.php

[Sarac330d]

Also check for Retirements:

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_abandons_2009.php

[ttiirika]

Does anyone know what kind of conditions there are? Seems like real Monte, lot of action from the SS 1.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Also check for Retirements:

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_abandons_2009.php

Those are only the crews who didn't start the rally......at the moment

[FAlonso]

Ogier`s time: 22:47.5

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_menu_2009.php

Yes I know. My edit was in response to miksu's post.

[RS]

Does anyone know what kind of conditions there are? Seems like real Monte, lot of action from the SS 1.

Some snow in one section.

[Tom206wrc]

Great run by the Finnish Hänninen, Gardemeister and Alen :up:

[Tom206wrc]

Great run by Witmann too 9th overall !! :)

[Sulland]

Wow Huge gaps after ss1. Weather report please ?

[Sarac330d]

Good performance by Franz Wittmann, he is the fastest non-S2000 car for the moment! 9-th!

[claar]

Franz Wittman knows these conditions from the Austrian Janner Rally, I think he will be very fast through the whole rally.

[Andrey]

Great run by Witmann too 9th overall !! :)

I think that Franz has overtaken at least two cars on this stage.

[shaitan]

sorry guys i have a question.

why s2000 car quicker than old group n car ?
as fia rules s2000 and groud n both defined as N4 group and how can s2000 quicker than subaru or mit cars?

[Tom206wrc]

Best two wheels driver so far, Damien Daumas on his Clio R3 ;)



Edit: NO it's Luca Betti on same car now :D

[Sarac330d]

Very good result by Andrej Jereb, have on mind that he didn`t drive any rally on tarmac for almost 2 years. 11-th overall! And he didn`t tested car in such conditions like they are in Monte Carlo!

[miksu]

Its tenth Monte for Garde, i think the experience will pay well this year. He said the conditions are more difficult than ever before what he has seen there these past 10 times.

[miksu]

sorry guys i have a question.

why s2000 car quicker than old group n car ?
as fia rules s2000 and groud n both defined as N4 group and how can s2000 quicker than subaru or mit cars?

i think s2000 is lighter? am i right...?

[Sarac330d]

Best two wheels driver so far, Damien Daumas on his Clio R3 ;)



Edit: NO it's Luca Betti on same car now :D

Luca Betti, 11-th overall, great performance, Clio R3! :-)

[Filip]

I think that Franz has overtaken at least two cars on this stage.

It' surely not easy for him, with the start number 23.

[farquar wrc]

Meeke is on slicks,most of the cars in front are on full winters,SS2 is bone dry

[cali]

Meeke is on slicks,most of the cars in front are on full winters,SS2 is bone dry
Then SS2 is going to be very interesting :p

[J4MIE]

Farquar hope you are right about Meeke, the end of the first loop will be interesting :) 220km road section now :s

Is Kopecky out, or just a puncture or something? But good start for Hanninen :up:

[Sulland]

Meeke is on slicks,most of the cars in front are on full winters,SS2 is bone dry

Tactics from the start !!

But the y have a long wait until SS2, compared to WRC it seems more relaxed !

[Rally Hokkaido]

sorry guys i have a question.

why s2000 car quicker than old group n car ?
as fia rules s2000 and groud n both defined as N4 group and how can s2000 quicker than subaru or mit cars?

Well, there are several reasons, including;
1/ in the IRC, most of the top drivers are driving S2000 cars
2/ in the IRC, the manufacturer/semi-factory teams are all using S2000
3/ particularly on tarmac rallies, a specially-built S2000 car will perform better than a modified production car due to optimal suspension design

[miksu]

Meeke is on slicks,most of the cars in front are on full winters,SS2 is bone dry

maybe many were on slicks then... like Basso, Loix and so on

[Tom206wrc]

Meeke is on slicks,most of the cars in front are on full winters,SS2 is bone dry



Then perhaps Loix and Sarrazin too, as they are within same seconds :confused:

[Sulland]

Any news on Kopecky ?

[Leon]

What about Auriol. Did he retired or still changing that tyre?

[shaitan]

Well, there are several reasons, including;
1/ in the IRC, most of the top drivers are driving S2000 cars
2/ in the IRC, the manufacturer/semi-factory teams are all using S2000
3/ particularly on tarmac rallies, a specially-built S2000 car will perform better than a modified production car due to optimal suspension design
thank you first,and I love hokkaido :) .

1.Group N is more cheaper for team operation,why they want expensive s2000(no-factory teams)?
2.suspension for rally car i think it's not a big deal.any team can modify they want,don't they?
3.Group N has more hp/nm(maybe) and more weight,maybe mix these two.

I have no idea

[J4MIE]

This is what the WRC is missing! :bounce:

[claar]

On Czech eWRC server, I've seen the message Kopecky was helping Rosetti after his crash. But this info is not official.

[Filip]

Any news on Kopecky ?

Apparently he has problems with steering. :(

[J4MIE]

Did Sola withdraw before the start? :(

[Rally Hokkaido]

Did Sola withdraw before the start? :(

yes, well before the start (a few weeks!)
apparently his deal didn't go through (= not enough $$$$?)

[Donney]

Some sponsor decided not to help.

[J4MIE]

Thanks Rally Hokkaido, I hadn't read that.

[Rally Hokkaido]

thank you first,and I love hokkaido :) .

1.Group N is more cheaper for team operation,why they want expensive s2000(no-factory teams)?
2.suspension for rally car i think it's not a big deal.any team can modify they want,don't they?
3.Group N has more hp/nm(maybe) and more weight,maybe mix these two.

I have no idea

1. Yes, for a private team GpN is still cheaper to buy or build, but I think this will change. Used S2000 will become available and still be competitive if updated, while older GpN cars will not be competitive with Evo X or N14 WRX
and cannot be updated

2. There are more freedom with S2000 suspension, whereas GpN is almost standard except spring and damper

3. Yes, and FIA may increase the minimum weight of S2000 to keep their performance closer to GpN. However, S2000 will always have better balance (incl. weight % on front & rear axles) than GpN.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Too bad about Didier. I hope he can re-start.
I think he might be regretting his tactics for this rally.

“I think the first stage of the rally will be quite decisive for me,” concluded Auriol. “I’m going to be pushing quite hard on that one, just to see where we are compared to everyone else."

[shaitan]

1. Yes, for a private team GpN is still cheaper to buy or build, but I think this will change. Used S2000 will become available and still be competitive if updated, while older GpN cars will not be competitive with Evo X or N14 WRX
and cannot be updated

2. There are more freedom with S2000 suspension, whereas GpN is almost standard except spring and damper

3. Yes, and FIA may increase the minimum weight of S2000 to keep their performance closer to GpN. However, S2000 will always have better balance (incl. weight % on front & rear axles) than GpN.

thanks hokkaido!!!

[ProRally]

Official, Rossetti and Auriol out !!!

[noel157]

Is there Superally in IRC?

[polo10]

what happened with kopecky?

[Sarac330d]

Look at the 20-th place it is Swift N2 class, 3-rd overall in FWD, i think this is very, very, good result! All other Clio-s R3 and R2 cars are behind this guy!

[Sarac330d]

Quate from eWRC.cz
INFO Z RZ2 OD ŠPIÓNŮ:

"NA 95% ZKOUŠKY JE SUCHO, ZBYLÝCH 5% JE KLUZKÝ ASFALT"
So 95% of SS2 is dry, other 5% is slippery

[J4MIE]

That 5% could be crucial ;)

[Sulland]

Anyone that knows more on the Kopecky steering issues ?
Powersteering, or ?

I guess the driver and co driver are the only ones that can touch the car between SS's, or are mechanics allowed help in IRC ?

[Rally Hokkaido]

Anyone that knows more on the Kopecky steering issues ?
Powersteering, or ?

I guess the driver and co driver are the only ones that can touch the car between SS's, or are mechanics allowed help in IRC ?


No, no outside assistance is permitted, They have about 4.5 hours to drive the 220km liaison, so I think the crew would try to fix the problem while talking to the engineers by mobile telephone and hope then to make up any lost time on the liaison.

[RS]

I hope Kopecky can stay in some how, even if he loses more time. I want to see more about the potential of the Fabia once his problem is fixed.

[Tom206wrc]

One hour and ten minutes before SS2 to start :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Many pics on Rally-Live :)

http://www.rally-live.com/fr/irc/photos/2009/index_rally.shtml

[piquet20]

Many pics on Rally-Live :)

http://www.rally-live.com/fr/irc/photos/2009/index_rally.shtml


thanks tom...i'm seerching all morning for some pics! :)

[Tom206wrc]

SS2 about to start :bounce:


We will really know who gets what as tyres on SS1/2 :D

[miksu]

SS2 about to start :bounce:


We will really know who gets what as tyres on SS1/2 :D

aha, it is very interesting :)

[J4MIE]

SS2 running, first results in about 12 mins :bounce:

[J4MIE]

Stage must be dry, heck of a lot faster than SS1. Results starting to come in.

[miksu]

so Basso now 34 secs behind...tactics went wrong for him at least

[piquet20]

basso 45sec faster! :cool:

[J4MIE]

Basso -45 to Vouilloz in the stage, he will be hoping SS3 is dry as well :bounce:

[farquar wrc]

Do they use the same tyres for SS3 as well

[Simmi]

Ahhh the joys of picking the right tyre choice. This seems dangerously like proper rallying!! Hopefully Meeke comes into his own now.

[RS]

Do they use the same tyres for SS3 as well

No, change after this stage.

Looks like Hanninen had a good compromise...

[Simmi]

Looks like Hanninen might be the leader after two stages!

[tolis]

Basso -24 to Hanninen????

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ok, IRCseries.com says this:

"Finland’s Juho Hanninen has also got Skoda’s IRC career off to a flying start with second-quickest time in the new Fabia WRC, while the privateer Abarth of Toni Gardemeister is third. ... "

Fabia WRC?!?!

[farquar wrc]

Sarazzin now 2nd

[J4MIE]

Very interesting results...Hanninen leads :eek: :up:

[dcr22B]

Christ on a bike, I'm enjoying this!

Come on Meeke!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Live results?

Live tv?

Radio maybe? Can someone link me sorry. :)

[dcr22B]

Results:

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_clt_epr_gen_2009.php&mode=2&meet=865&type=0&code=2&f=0&g=all&categ=0&lg=en

[Karbonyl]

Ok, IRCseries.com says this:

"Finland’s Juho Hanninen has also got Skoda’s IRC career off to a flying start with second-quickest time in the new Fabia WRC, while the privateer Abarth of Toni Gardemeister is third. ... "

Fabia WRC?!?!Then we know why he's leading :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

haha

[cali]

Christ on a bike, I'm enjoying this!

Come on Meeke!

Same here! First time after many years i feel excited and waiting desperately results to come :)

Edit: Meeke lost another 50sec to stage winner

[dcr22B]

Kris 7th fastest and 8th overall, not a great stage time but there seems to be no time for Alen. Maybe Kris was held up???

[J4MIE]

Meeke too slow...... not good if you have a problem on the only stage you need to get a good time in.... :(

But at least Kopecky is still going :up:

[GigiGalliNo1]

ACM website with splits update it self? when next stage starts?

[farquar wrc]

Kris 7th fastest and 8th overall, not a great stage time but there seems to be no time for Alen. Maybe Kris was held up???
Could be,Alen +2.45

[dcr22B]

Meeke too slow...... not good if you have a problem on the only stage you need to get a good time in.... :(

But at least Kopecky is still going :up:

Jamie, looking at Alen's poor time, my reckoning is that Kris caught him and dropped time stuck behind him.

[J4MIE]

ACM website with splits update it self? when next stage starts?

All info is on the website........... SS3 starts 15:50 CET.

No splits in IRC = good.

[Simmi]

So does anyone know what this live broadcast is going to entail then at 3pm (UK time)? A live running of the SS3 stage or live from a service park or what? Should I get excited?

[GigiGalliNo1]

No splits in IRC = good.

Oh i meant the end of stage times (split)

Sorry.

:)

[farquar wrc]

All info is on the website........... SS3 starts 15:50 CET.

No splits in IRC = good.
Totally agree J4MIE,no driving to splits times,flat out to the finish

[J4MIE]

Jamie, looking at Alen's poor time, my reckoning is that Kris caught him and dropped time stuck behind him.

Yes well spotted, result page hadn't updated with those times but a huge load of them updated now ;)

Take it they are running at 2 minute intervals?

[Karbonyl]

All info is on the website........... SS3 starts 15:50 CET.

No splits in IRC = good.SS 3 starts at 16:05 CET.

[Tom206wrc]

Great for Hänninen and Skoda, leading after SS2 :cool:

Fantastic run by Sarrazin now 2nd overall :bounce:

Average run by Gardemeister and disappointment for Alen :mark:


Edit: I was hoping Loix and Meeke being on pace of Sarrazin, regarding tyres :(

[Sturla]

Will there be live footage from the stage this afternoon? Or just from the service park?

[J4MIE]

So does anyone know what this live broadcast is going to entail then at 3pm (UK time)? A live running of the SS3 stage or live from a service park or what? Should I get excited?

SS3 starts at 15:05 GMT so I would guess they must be covering that, lucky if you have eurosport and are not at work :(


Oh i meant the end of stage times (split)

Ok well you have to understand then that splits are not stage times, they are from mid-stage. It's the stage times we are watching and talking about here.

[Simmi]

SS3 starts at 15:05 GMT so I would guess they must be covering that, lucky if you have eurosport and are not at work :(

Yeah I felt the Monte was a bit more important then my afternoon uni lecture. Im hoping the Wescam helicopter is up doing its thing. If its anything like the last live stage in Valais it will be available on the internet later on maybe?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ok well you have to understand then that splits are not stage times, they are from mid-stage. It's the stage times we are watching and talking about here.

yup yup

sorry i got confused. rally season has just begun!

[Rally Hokkaido]

yup yup

sorry i got confused. rally season has just begun!

well, as a penalty for your late start, you have to go back to about page 10 and read all the posts! You'll actually find all answers and links that you asked
in this thread.

[dcr22B]

Luckily I've got my DVD recorder set up for 3pm to catch an hour's worth :-)

[piquet20]

SS3 starts at 15:05 GMT so I would guess they must be covering that, lucky if you have eurosport and are not at work :(



i have eurosport...and i am at work...but i'm planing to escape little earlier! :vader:

[Simmi]

For people at work it might be worth checking the Eurosport site around the time the stage is due to start. They do sometimes put live coverage online which they are doing with their Australian Open coverage.

I'm by no means saying it will be on there but it couldn't hurt to have a look.

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for SS3 in about one hour :)

[RS]

The show this afternoon is live footage of SS3, should be able to watch it live online here: http://www.ircseries.com/html/Video.asp

[Shacki]

Rossetti and Auriol crash - http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=10319

[bluuford]

What the hell.. I just jumped in and what can I see! 7 cars from 60 retired on the first (or after the first) stage. Luckily, second one was better:-) otherwise.. There will be no cars left by the end of rally :-(

It is not like normal Monte.. no stages canceled so far! :-P

[bluuford]

Rossetti and Auriol crash - http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=10319

Rosetti car does not look repairable for superally..

Is there superally in IRC? Dont remember:-(

[sasamsa]

The show this afternoon is live footage of SS3, should be able to watch it live online here: http://www.ircseries.com/html/Video.asp

Do they show live videos?
Almost none of the videos on that page works for me due to geolocation?
That is stupid... I have Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 which have been localized for over a year but cant watch it online later if I miss it :mad:

[GigiGalliNo1]

Auriol did say he was going to push hard!! Just to see if he is up to speed with the young guns in their S2000's. So I wasn't hoping he'd crash out or retire but hey, good to see him back.

Silly question.... there are no restart rules like in the WRC is there?

[RS]

Do they show live videos?
Almost none of the videos on that page works for me due to geolocation?
That is stupid... I have Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 which have been localized for over a year but cant watch it online later if I miss it :mad:

They do show live streaming but if you can't watch the video highlights then I doubt the streaming will work for you.

[RS]

Auriol did say he was going to push hard!! Just to see if he is up to speed with the young guns in their S2000's. So I wasn't hoping he'd crash out or retire but hey, good to see him back.

Silly question.... there are no restart rules like in the WRC is there?

AFAIK it is up to each IRC rally whether they allow Superrally or not, but I think Superalliers are not allowed to score IRC points.

[sasamsa]

They do show live streaming but if you can't watch the video highlights then I doubt the streaming will work for you.

Didnt know they had live streaming but I dont care about that as I have it on tv..
Didn't follow IRC much but If I remember correctly they had 3 20min shows before.

[bluuford]

The most useless thing in IRC is their official website.. always when I try to use it I am going crazy until approximately 2-3 months later I reach to the same site and it is still as bad it was before.. today.. it was same feeling. If you want to keep your nerves, keep away from irc official site :-)

[GigiGalliNo1]

The most useless thing in IRC is their official website.. always when I try to use it I am going crazy until approximately 2-3 months later I reach to the same site and it is still as bad it was before.. today.. it was same feeling. If you want to keep your nerves, keep away from irc official site :-)

Eh, so so the website is ok...

Defiantly not the best...

Hey so has live streaming begun? I had to install a plugin for Firefox to view the IRC videos on the website...

[Simmi]

Right here we go lets see what Eurosport have to offer us!

[karlzoro]

live on stage 3.....
http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/irc-monte-carlo-day-1_vid94557/irc-player.shtml

[Simmi]

Hanninen fastest again so far then at the first split on TV after the first few. Nice to see a little bit of sliding and things like that. Kopecky looks to be doing the morning with his hazard lights on.

[teufel]

Despite his hazard lights Kopecky was just 5s slower, than Hanninen.

[J4MIE]

Live coverage!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

(ok, I have to have it a really small window at work and with no sound.........but I can't see myself doing much work in the next 30 mins or so ;)

Thanks for the link :up:

[Simmi]

Despite his hazard lights Kopecky was just 5s slower, than Hanninen.

Yep speed looked good still. Hopefully a Fabia will take this stage win.

[Simmi]

Decent first split from Toni. Jamie you really dont need sound they dont seem to have a competent sound editor. Nice to see some snow on the stage!

Right front puncture for Vouilloz!!!

[piquet20]

voulioz in...he has a front right puncture.

[Simmi]

Conditions look tricky at the high points towards the end

[Roy]

live on stage 3.....
http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/irc-monte-carlo-day-1_vid94557/irc-player.shtml

Any idea why it is not working by me. I had do download a plug-in. I do.
It is strange I can watch longer and now other movies etc.

[piquet20]

studed tyres the things to have...anton alen to start on cut slicks!! :eek:

[piquet20]

loix fastest.

[piquet20]

sarrazin faster still...

[RS]

Kopecky is going to be bloody quick tomorrow once they have fixed the power steering!

[piquet20]

ogier puncture front right

[Simmi]

They need to get their onboard cameras sorted this year. It doesnt take a genius to fit them so you can see out of the windscreen and not the roof lining. Snowing harder and harder. Looks like Ogier may have right-front puncture too.

[Simmi]

Now Toni right-front puncture!!!!!!!

I wonder if they are all hitting the same stone?

[piquet20]

ogier puncture front right


toni too...

[Simmi]

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeke!

[piquet20]

meeke fastest!!

[Simmi]

Ouch Alen loses three minutes on wrong tyres. Even spins slightly after stage end!

[Tom206wrc]

What a FABULOUS first leg for Skoda and Hänninen !!!! :up:


Fantastic job !!! :)

[Daniel]

They need to get their onboard cameras sorted this year. It doesnt take a genius to fit them so you can see out of the windscreen and not the roof lining. Snowing harder and harder. Looks like Ogier may have right-front puncture too.

Yup that was a bit silly. It was the only bad thing about the coverage though.

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131290

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I don't understand how a team like Fiat Abarth can fail in tyres choices so many times... :s

[Daniel]

]I don't understand how a team like Fiat Abarth can fail in tyres choices so many times... :s

Well as we saw on the coverage the stage was mostly clear and then it just started snowing. If it hadn't snowed we'd be sitting here talking about how great Alen is :)

[karlzoro]

Indeed,

nice coverage from the live stage...
I was surprised of Meeke's fastest time...hope that that other Belgian Pug can do better tomorrow...we just have to wait & see :)
So 3 stages & 3 different winners..."vive le IRC"!!

[miksu]

Indeed,

nice coverage from the live stage...
I was surprised of Meeke's fastest time...hope that that other Belgian Pug can do better tomorrow...we just have to wait & see :)
So 3 stages & 3 different winners..."vive le IRC"!!

I think Meeke's time was much about his tyre choice, not that he didnt drive well! He did good job anyways.

the coverage was so great!! what a pleasure to watch, though on-boards were crappy. I have never seen so good footage before live, i dunno if they have shown it, but i didnt have eurosport before. I think its much to the fact that they can use so much helicopters in the mountains. And there will be more to come....woooah :P

I'm dissapointed about Abarths tyre choises, causing Garde loose so much and Basso has been little bit off pace, maybe also because of tyres.

I'm waiting to see some dry stages with everyone on same tyres to see the real potentials of all the cars, how they are compared to others. My feeling is now its Skoda-Peugeot-Abarth (much from the leader board :D )

[teufel]

I didn't expect Sarrazin so fast, somehow I thought he needs more miles under his belt...

[RS]

I didn't expect Sarrazin so fast, somehow I thought he needs more miles under his belt...

He drove the 207 on an event in France at the end of last year and has done A LOT of testing.

[Simmi]

So 3 stages & 3 different winners..."vive le IRC"!!

Yup and someone else leading the overall classification! The tire lottery makes it much harder to dominate an event. The whole thing just reminds me of how rallying used to be before the decline. Positive stuff!

[Daniel]

Yup and someone else leading the overall classification! The tire lottery makes it much harder to dominate an event. The whole thing just reminds me of how rallying used to be before the decline. Positive stuff!

Rubbish! There should be no lottery, they should all go out on slicks because the FIA mandates a single tyre and the drivers and spectators should be put in more danger than necessary because that's how it's done

[Eyvind]

He drove the 207 on an event in France at the end of last year and has done A LOT of testing.

Yes. Sarrazin was very fast in Antibes 2008. He fought for the victory with Vouilloz.

I think he can fight to win the Monte.

[miksu]

Yup and someone else leading the overall classification! The tire lottery makes it much harder to dominate an event. The whole thing just reminds me of how rallying used to be before the decline. Positive stuff!

yeah, wrc sucks :P

well really, i dont care much if the cars are slower, they look great and sound better! and when i stare at splits or what ever, i dont care about the speed, i care about surprises and so on

[Simmi]

Rubbish! There should be no lottery, they should all go out on slicks because the FIA mandates a single tyre and the drivers and spectators should be put in more danger than necessary because that's how it's done

Ha I can do sarcasm dont worry. If that stage had been in the WRC they probably would have had to shorten it due to there being two different road conditions.

[RS]

yeah, wrc sucks :P

well really, i dont care much if the cars are slower, they look great and sound better! and when i stare at splits or what ever, i dont care about the speed, i care about surprises and so on

Too right!

I love to hear the engines singing and not changing gear at 2500RPM. The Skoda is particularly good.

I don't think the average man on the street would notice these cars are slower, maybe even the opposite.

[Simmi]

yeah, wrc sucks :P

well really, i dont care much if the cars are slower, they look great and sound better! and when i stare at splits or what ever, i dont care about the speed, i care about surprises and so on

They are slower but I didnt think they looked too shabby really. On tarmac they do anyway. Maybe less so on gravel but in a few years who knows.

[Daniel]

Ha I can do sarcasm dont worry. If that stage had been in the WRC they probably would have had to shorten it due to there being two different road conditions.

Ha! True :D


Too right!

I love to hear the engines singing and not changing gear at 2500RPM. The Skoda is particularly good.

I don't think the average man on the street would notice these cars are slower, maybe even the opposite.

The average man would say "It's a Skoda so it's crap" :p

[RS]

Ha! True :D



The average man would say "It's a Skoda so it's crap" :p

Probably, lol. Until he sees the stage times :)

[Daniel]

Probably, lol. Until he sees the stage times :)

Can't argue with that!

[playmo]

Good night to all! seems that the season has kicked off in fashion and style!
Impresive pace by Juho, hope he can stay there (and the fabia hang on tight!).
Really is good to see Gardemester up there, but makes me eager to see PG on S2000 (suspect he'll have more pace).
Promising of season for Basso, Kopecky, Voullioz and Loix: Seems we'll have another great season of great battles.
On another subjet, wonderboy Ogier impressed me (by times, because i've not seen any video yet).
Still i'm hoping that someday i can see these cars live, on person....
Good luck to all of you forum members, may this season brings you the excitement denied by WRC.

[noel157]

Footage from SS1:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRodp-MRV6w&eurl=http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=mont%C3%A9%20carlo&rls=com.microsoft:fr:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLR&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=mont%C3%A9%20carlo&rls=com.microsoft%3Afr%3AIE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLR&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv&st=day

[Tom206wrc]

Bring on tomorrow action, now !!! :bounce: :bounce:

[bluuford]

Well unfortunately it seems to be impossible to see any kind o live coverage in Estonia. Everywhere where I try it opens media player and nothing doesn't start.
Is it same for the others here? if it is so, then I hope to see some youtube links here where I can see videos recorded by some enthusiastic rally maniacs!

[subaru 28]

Franz Wittmann the Austrian is the best Mitsubishi ( Total 9)

JJiiiiPPIIIIIIIII

[alleskids]

Ha I can do sarcasm dont worry. If that stage had been in the WRC they probably would have had to shorten it due to there being two different road conditions.

Freddy Loix had a sollution for that. He had snow tyres on front, and spiked tyres on the back.

[Rally Power]

Does anyone knows what tyres were used at todays stages by top drivers?

[Nikey]

Well unfortunately it seems to be impossible to see any kind o live coverage in Estonia. Everywhere where I try it opens media player and nothing doesn't start.
Is it same for the others here? if it is so, then I hope to see some youtube links here where I can see videos recorded by some enthusiastic rally maniacs!

I had the same problem with Firefox but then I decided to give Internet Explorer a chance and it worked perfectly. No idea why though.

[HaCo]

Rossetti had an off? Pics, videos? Lot of damage?
Grtz

[RS]

Rossetti had an off? Pics, videos? Lot of damage?
Grtz

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=10319

[HaCo]

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=10319

On tv they told: technical failure for Auriol.

Even the most experienced guys go off... :)

Thanks for the images!

[wotaguy]

good day very happy about hanninen and skoda, but very happy about wittman, like father like son

[PLuto]

On tv they told: technical failure for Auriol.

Even the most experienced guys go off... :)

Thanks for the images!

Auriol crashed - damaged wheel.

[PLuto]

Preview video from Rallye Monte Carlo - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=7852

[J4MIE]

Did Kopecky stop and have a look at his steering in SS1 that he lost so much time compared to the other two stages?

Otherwise seems a very impressive start for the Fabia, hope it continues to be as quick. Have to say though that the Punto is the best looking S2000 for me ;)

[Simmi]

I wonder where Rossetti would have been at the end of Day 1 had he not bent the Abarth? I was looking forward to seeing how he adapted to his new car.

[RS]

Quotes from the Skoda drivers: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/72932

Nice to see Autosport covering IRC.

[Mitch555]

Well unfortunately it seems to be impossible to see any kind o live coverage in Estonia.

Seems like the same in Australia. Internet got capped... :( However I can still load result pages and this forum! So if anyone has a copy of the live video, chuck it up on youtube or something, would be greatly appreciated :)

I was hoping Abarth would go a little better, but to say I'm disapointted is a slight understatement. Rossetti crashing (has there been a reason why he crashed? Speed? Ice?), Alen getting a puncture and Gardemeister having transmission problems. Hoping these guys will have a better day 2.

Very encouraging for Skoda, although Kopecky did have a problem, having both cars in the top 6 on SS2 & 3 is great for a car on debut. Hopefully it encourages Proton, MG and Toyota to get it together :)

So other than the total drowning in Peugeots, this rally has been exciting for me so far, even without all the modern live video :)

+1 fan who likes IRC more than WRC

[noel157]

Real Monte snow conditions, shows why studs was the best tyre choice:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vtEhZJcAtso&fmt=18

[noel157]

Seems like the same in Australia. Internet got capped... :( However I can still load result pages and this forum! So if anyone has a copy of the live video, chuck it up on youtube or something, would be greatly appreciated :)

+1 fan who likes IRC more than WRC

Some live footage, mostly Meeke.

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6620/kris-meeke-goes-fastest-on-ss3-irc-monte-carlo-2009

[J4MIE]

Real Monte snow conditions, shows why studs was the best tyre choice:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=vtEhZJcAtso&fmt=18

Fantastic video :up: Can really see Alen struggling, terrible choice of tyres :s

[PLuto]

Some photos from Rallye Monte Carlo: http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/index.php?cat=62

http://fotogalerie.autosport.cz/albums/userpics/10002/thumb_Ogier_1.jpg

[noel157]

Eurosport interview with Meeke, SS3:

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6619/kris-meeke-interview-ss3-irc-monte-carlo

[Rally Hokkaido]

Fantastic video :up: Can really see Alen struggling, terrible choice of tyres :s
So Meeke overtook Alen in SS3?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Some live footage, mostly Meeke.

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6620/kris-meeke-goes-fastest-on-ss3-irc-monte-carlo-2009

That stage looks so gooood! Stage used in the WRC?

Otherwise the IRC guys are using different, BETTER camera positions! Can't wait for more coverage to watch!

[GigiGalliNo1]

All the IRC drivers now need to do is learn to explain in English to the interviewers on live TV. haha

[miksu]

Fantastic video :up: Can really see Alen struggling, terrible choice of tyres :s

Some quotes from Finns:

Alen:
-First SS went ok, but on the second i had a puncture. On the third i had STUDS which was a mistake.

Hänninen:
-First day of Monte was the most challenging of my whole career! On the mountain roads it is changing from snow to ice, to snow mush and wet. Its easy to make driving error in those conditions.
-Driving went well and car worked flawless. Biggest thanks goes to my experienced first car(?) team (Juha Miettinen and Pentti Kuukkala) who's job were incredible! i had 100 percent trust in my pace notes!

Gardemeister:
-Generator doesn't work at all. Car is stalling all the time, windows steam up and it doesn't go anywhere.
-On the third SS, which is 30 km long, fast road, which i know very well from the past, we were 35 secs behind coming to the middle of the stage, even though it is basically just straight road!


i hope they fix the problems and show some speed at least... Garde is not too much behind, and anything can happen, but Alen is too much by now :(

[Sulland]

Good morning, how does the weather look like on the stages today ?

Do we have a forcast ?

[GigiGalliNo1]

How long until stage start?

What is the outlook for todays stages? Ie Local times? :)

[miksu]

04 - Labatie d'Andaure - St-Pierre sur Doux (Bif. D228/D532) 25,30 22/01 - 09:58
05 - St-Bonnet le Froid - St-Julien Molhesabate - St-Bonnet le Froid 25,67 22/01 - 10:38
06 - Lamastre - Gilhoc sur Ormèze - Alboussière 21,92 22/01 - 12:03
07 - Labatie d'Andaure - St-Pierre sur Doux (Bif. D228/D532) 25,30 22/01 - 15:11
08 - St-Bonnet le Froid - St-Julien Molhesabate - St-Bonnet le Froid 25,67 22/01 - 15:51
09 - Lamastre - Gilhoc sur Ormèze - Alboussière 21,92 22/01 - 17:16

stage number, name, km, date, time :)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Anyone got a top 10 list?

[Koppomsbo]

Some quotes from Finns:


Gardemeister:
-Generator doesn't work at all. Car is stalling all the time, windows steam up and it doesn't go anywhere.
-On the third SS, which is 30 km long, fast road, which i know very well from the past, we were 35 secs behind coming to the middle of the stage, even though it is basically just straight road!




Has Garde got a ghost following him to the cars make not to work??

[Koppomsbo]

are there any links to split/stage times?

[Roy]

http://videos.eurosport.com/irc/irc-player.shtml

Why is this not working on my PC? Any idea's?

[Sulland]

are there any links to split/stage times?

http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=415

[morganmilan]

Roy try with explorer instead of firefox...In my pc it goes... :)

[Mitch555]

Eurosport interview with Meeke, SS3:

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/6619/kris-meeke-interview-ss3-irc-monte-carlo

Cheers mate, I'll see if I can find some decent internet to watch it on :)

If my suspiscions are correct, first stage of day 2 is about 30 minutes away?

[Tom206wrc]

Start SS4 in about 20 minutes now :bounce:

[noel157]

From Kris Meeke blog:

"Kris just leaving service in Valence with full stud winter tyre with big ring cut around centre of tyre to clear snow. About 0c in service.

Kris’s ice note crew Davy Patterson and Derek Brannigan have been up from 3am and done a complete loop of the stages and there has been a fair bit of snow which has since frozen. All drivers appear to be on the same tyre this morning."

http://blog.krismeeke.com/

[Mitch555]

To be quite frank, this is the most excited I've been about a rally in a VERY long time. For a couple of years now we've had to be contempt with saying "Loeb will win" or sometimes we could say "Gronholm has a pretty good chance".

Although the top 10 here is covered by 4:30 minutes, this is the Monte and I still can't say who is likely to win after the first day. Everyone is in pretty similar machinery and the stages are actually challenging with lots of surface changes, tight twisty sections etc. Dam its exciting stuff :D

[Leon]

To be quite frank, this is the most excited I've been about a rally in a VERY long time. For a couple of years now we've had to be contempt with saying "Loeb will win" or sometimes we could say "Gronholm has a pretty good chance".

Although the top 10 here is covered by 4:30 minutes, this is the Monte and I still can't say who is likely to win after the first day. Everyone is in pretty similar machinery and the stages are actually challenging with lots of surface changes, tight twisty sections etc. Dam its exciting stuff :D

I can only agree with you. The only worry I have is not to end up a Peugeot drivers champioship. Skoda needs more cars and drivers and Abarth more reliability and updates for the punto.

[Daniel]

Anyone got a top 10 list?

http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/top_ten/archive/

Or you could go to the official IRC site yourself and look for the standings :)

[Mitch555]

http://lateshow.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/top_ten/archive/

Or you could go to the official IRC site yourself and look for the standings :)

http://www.acm.mc/ramc/ramc_main.php?page=2009/zelive_menu_2009.php

ES = Stage Time
Cumul = Cumulative/Overall
Les dex = Both

[Tom206wrc]

Kopecky finished SS4 ;)

[miksu]

so they run in reverse order?

[noel157]

Is this the correct link for live streaming of SS 5?

mms://livestream.eurosport.com/nogeo/94557.wsx

[miksu]

Good time for toni :) -22 sec on kopecky

[Tom206wrc]

Gardemeister far fastest(Basso very slower) ;)

[modri dirkac]

so they run in reverse order?

Yes.

[Tom206wrc]

MEEKE !!! :bounce:

[Sulland]

so they run in reverse order?

top 10 revere order I think.

[farquar wrc]

Meeke now quickest

[Tom206wrc]

Sorry for Belgians of the Forum, Meeke in front of Loix now :p :

[Rally Hokkaido]

Sorry for Belgians of the Forum, Meeke in front of Loix now :p :

sorry for Frenchmen, too ! Now in front of Ogier! Hi Tom !!

[noel157]

Lnk for live streaming for SS5 please?

[Tom206wrc]

Meeke wins two places after SS4(Ogier also behind) :eek:

[Roy]

Sorry for Belgians of the Forum, Meeke in front of Loix now :p :

And Ogier, sorry all from France :D

[sasamsa]

Its on on eurosport 2 now

[Sulland]

Gardemeisters car seems to be back !

[FST]

VOUILLOZ loses 1.10min to meeke!

[Tom206wrc]

Vouilloz !!!! :mark: :(

[miksu]

Gardemeisters car seems to be back !

yeah, lets hope it stays like that :)

[Sulland]

What is the surface like on ss4 ?

[Eyvind]

Meeke in front of Vouilloz too...

Fantastic Kris !

[Sulland]

Jiiihaa Hanninen and Skodas first stage win, but now he is starting to look like Loeb timewise - over 1 min in front !

But things change fast !

[Tom206wrc]

Sarrazin !!! ??? ;(

[miksu]

LIVE starts on eurosport :) woohooo

[Madeira]

Good Morning!

is not time to start the eurosport broadcast right now?

[miksu]

where is sarrazin?!?

[miksu]

SS 5 is covered with snow

its like Sweden :P

[FST]

where is sarrazin?!?

Lost 5min to leader

[Mitch555]

Sarrazin has now lost 4 and a half minutes??? according to ACM website

Dropped him down to 9th/ Hopefully it isn't mechanical and he just went off and got stuck on stage somewhere. He and Kopecky are approx 10 secs behind Wittmann, so points are still up for grabs

[Tom206wrc]

Off road for Sarrazin who lost more than 5 minutes to be back on road :(

[Madeira]

SS 5 is covered with snow

its like Sweden :P


Link please

Thank you

[Meeke Fan]

is it possible to watch this on the internet??????????

[miksu]

Garge +3 places on the leaderboard on one stage :) Hänninen is on his own now.... But anything can happen in Monte

[cali]

Nice! Now i'm gonna take a long lunchbreak and watch ss5 live :D
Damn, this IRC thing is got me hooked on rallying again

[FST]

Meeke jumped from 6th to 2nd on SS4. Go Kris :)

[miksu]

Link please

Thank you

its on Eurosport 2... sorry

[Honza H.]

Unlike yesterday - unfortunately no live broadcast of SS5 on the internet. Does anyone know why? Yesterday the broadcast was on eurosport1, today on eurosport2? Is it the reason?