[Cze] Horacka rally Trebic

[Mirek]

20-21st June. Another round of Czech international championship. Held near Třebíč, 50 km westwards from Brno.

Official website: http://www.horacka.cz/
Time schedule: http://horacka.cz/foto08/ke_stazeni/Harmonogram_HR_2008.pdf
Map: http://www.horacka.cz/foto08/ke_stazeni/HR_08_celkova_mapa.pdf
Entry list: http://www.horacka.cz/horacka-rally-en/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=41&Itemid=59

This time without Pavel Valoušek who will return on Rally Bohemia.

[Mirek]

Roman Odložilík will not start because of too short time between rallys. Spare parts arived too late.

[wwbroe]

That is a shame, he wasn't placed too bad in the championship, was he :confused:

[Mirek]

It is shame but the reason is that we have too many rallys in very short time. And two weeks after Horacká, there is another event - Bohemia.

[wwbroe]

Is there allready news if Fabia S2000 will be in Bohemia as a zero car?

[Mirek]

No, there isn't and I don't count with it. If yes, it would be good anyway.

[Tom206wrc]

]Roman Odložilík will not start because of too short time between rallys. Spare parts arived too late.



Edit: nothing... :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Really tough first leg from this evening with 6 stages to run by night or almost !!! :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

After two stages, Roman Kresta already in the lead in battle with Vaclav Pech... ;)

Excellent surprise on this start of rally with Jozef Petàk 3rd overall :up:

[Tom206wrc]

What happens on SS4 ??? They are long to give Staff Vojtech's time(crew number6) :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

I don't know, Tom. For other members, it is probably a good idea to give a link to the live results: http://mmcr.vysledky-rally.cz/rallysport/2008/mcr/horacka/4fia.php

Edit: the times are there now.

[Wim_Impreza]

Very nice fight between Pech and Kresta. Pech is after SS5 back in the lead with 0,6 sec. advance. The young talented driver Orsák is again fast. The Subaru's and Trněný are a bit slow until now.

[Tom206wrc]

Also nice battle for last podium position between Petàk and Trojan, separated by 4s before the last stage of the day :)

I don't mind if Petàk loses this position this night, all I hope is that he finishes on the podium at the end of the rally(after SS9) :p :

[wwbroe]

Kresta takes the lead with 0.2 sec :p :

[Mirek]

Wim_Impreza: Stages in Třebíč are too fast and Lancers have more top speed than Imprezas. But in fact I'm surprised by S2000 pilots as Peták is quite old gentleman who doesn't like night stages and Tarabus was very long out with a serious injury of his hand. The more the stages are such fast...

About Pech, he made a mistake on SS2 (reverse in a chicane). In fact the biggest change in this season is that Pech started using BFG and that the last two rallys are completely dry. Anyway it is thrilling battle :)

[Tom206wrc]

Pics !!! :bounce:

http://www.rally-mania.cz/med.php?g=396&au=0

[Tom206wrc]

Why hasn't SS7 started yet ??? :confused:

[Wim_Impreza]

]Wim_Impreza: Stages in Třebíč are too fast and Lancers have more top speed than Imprezas. But in fact I'm surprised by S2000 pilots as Peták is quite old gentleman who doesn't like night stages and Tarabus was very long out with a serious injury of his hand. The more the stages are such fast...

About Pech, he made a mistake on SS2 (reverse in a chicane). In fact the biggest change in this season is that Pech started using BFG and that the last two rallys are completely dry. Anyway it is thrilling battle :)

Thank you for explanation. Your answers are always nice to read and know. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Nice pace from Vaclav Pech who increases his lead and from Jozef Petàk who is able to defend his 3rd position(after SS10) :bounce:


Five stages left to go ;)

[Wim_Impreza]

As a Kresta supporter I hope he can win, but on almost every stage now he is a bit slower than Pech. Pech had a 10 seconds penalty (1 minute too late at SS9), so the difference between them is only 1,1 sec. after SS10.

[Mirek]

Kresta reported big problems with engine. It's not sure if he continues after service...

[Tom206wrc]

:(

[PLuto]

]Kresta reported big problems with engine. It's not sure if he continues after service...

Kresta has left service few minutes ago, he continues...

[Tom206wrc]

Without penalty ??? :confused:

[Mirek]

Kresta said they went on safety programme due to overheating from SS2.

Pech's penalty was due to co-driver's mistake.

[Wim_Impreza]

Pech and Kresta are equal in time after SS11. If the engine from Kresta is fixed, we will have again a nice fight for victory.

[wwbroe]

After stage 13 and with only two stages to go Pech has taken the lead by 2"4 for Kresta. Trojan is now third at 1'34"4 and Pétak fourth at 1'39"0. I don't see any penalisation for Kresta, so i guess he left service in time? There is 10" penalisation for Pech. :p

[Tom206wrc]

What happened to Petàk in SS13 he lost too much ??? :(

[Mirek]

Yes, he left service in time but the problem is not repaired as it seems. Kresta won only short city stage where there overheating is not a problem because the stage is 2,8 km long... Peták made some mistake or have some problem.

[Tom206wrc]

Mistake apparently for Petàk on previous stage as he did good time in SS14 and has less than 1s to catch on Karel Trojan for 3rd position ;)

[Mirek]

Rest of the rally is canceled due to a fatal crash on stage 13. Pavla Třebínová - co-driver of Miroslav Levora, died from serious injury. Levor suffered serious injury...

Rest in peace, Pavla :(

[wwbroe]

What is going on these last weeks :confused: To many people dying now, Donegal Rally, spectator in Turkey, two people killed in Transoriental and now here too. Rest in peace to al the ones that passed away these last couple of weeks. :mad:

[Tom206wrc]

;( ;(


RIP Pavla...

[Mirek]

Miroslav Levora died too...

[atsiotras79]

Terrible news. May they rest in peace.

[Tom206wrc]

RIP to both of them and condolences to their families :(

[Karbonyl]

Very black day. RIP, my friends :(

[Wim_Impreza]

What a very bad day, RIP to both and off course to the family, team, friends...

Pavla send me last year a postcard and now this. :(

[Mirek]

Miroslav Levora was 24 years old.
http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_pposadky/miroslavlevora.jpeg

Pavla Třebínová was 27 years old.
http://www.rally-mania.cz/img_pposadky/pavlina_trebinova.jpeg

Sad thing is that the crash happened on insane stage where there was 9 schicanes on 14 kms but nevertheless the average speed was more than 120 km/h! Maximum allowed average speed in Czech championship is 120 km/h but it is largely ignored. In rally Sumava many stages were faster but non of them was canceled including that one where Landa had a terrible crash during first run (average 125 km/h).

This is mostly a failure of our national federation as such stages should not be allowed at all.

[matSLO]

Very sad news...R.I.P.

[Filip]

Terrible news. May they rest in peace.

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=8815


;(

[Mirek]

Make Your own oppinion on that stage:
http://www.mediasport.cz/multimedia/videa/rally-cz/trojan_TR_rz13.wmv

Here also on youtube: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mdGBjt-6O20

[wwbroe]

Looks like it is a really very fast stage, not very technical. It is only because off some chicanes that they made it a little slower, if not it is way too fast in my point off vieuw. It doesn't look anything like Barum rally, wich is the only rally i can compare with in your country. What do you think yourself Mirek? :confused:

[Mirek]

In my opinion such stage shouldn't been run. It is way too fast and dangerous. Chicanes are not used for making it safer but only to lower down average speed in non dangerous places (in villages etc.). Even with 9 chicanes the average speed was over 120 km/h. Without them I think that it would be about 140. There are long parts run on top speed among the trees. That is useless risk with no sport value.

[wwbroe]

]In my opinion such stage shouldn't been run. It is way too fast and dangerous. Chicanes are not used for making it safer but only to lower down average speed in non dangerous places (in villages etc.). Even with 9 chicanes the average speed was over 120 km/h. Without them I think that it would be about 140. There are long parts run on top speed among the trees. That is useless risk with no sport value.

I completely agree with you Mirek. I think in Barum rally the stages are much nicer and more technical.