Montreal kerbs less demanding

[ShiftingGears]

http://www.f1complete.com/content/view/8808/900/


Lame! Reminds me of Monza last year when DC was complaining about going over the kerbs.

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Having seen them yet but at this moment in time I think its a disgrace!

They were perfectly fine as it was because it was progressive kerbing.

You could put a wheel on the normal flat kerbing but use half the car and you faced an even bigger kerb on the inside!

[Bagwan]

I went to Montreal in '04 , and the curbing is enough to frighten any driver out of thinking he might gain by going over instead of just close .

They are nice and flat inside , but get up on the back edge and you're fighting a 3 inch tall saw toothed pave stone wrecking machine that would give trouble to monster truck Grave Digger .

I don't remember specifically the turn towards the champions corner , but the description covers turns 3,4,5 and 6 .
Gnarly curbs . Not something you want to drive over with a road car , let alone an F1 car .

[jens]

Last year Toyota had some trouble with kerbs at practice, so maybe this time they'll have a smoother run.

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Alex Wurz on driving Le Mans:


"Today turned out to be super difficult and it was a bit of a wake-up call actually," he said. "After 12 years in Formula One where every little bump is taken care of by the FIA, I come here to a real man's circuit. It was more of a fight than enjoyment but I always love the challenge of Le Mans."

[call_me_andrew]

Having seen them yet but at this moment in time I think its a disgrace!

They were perfectly fine as it was because it was progressive kerbing.

You could put a wheel on the normal flat kerbing but use half the car and you faced an even bigger kerb on the inside!

No, they were pretty bad. During the NASCAR race last fall, one car broke a trailing arm on the curb. The car has 5 inches of ground clearance, and it broke a part that I've never seen fail before. Clearly there's something wrong with the track.

[Miatanut]

No, they were pretty bad. During the NASCAR race last fall, one car broke a trailing arm on the curb. The car has 5 inches of ground clearance, and it broke a part that I've never seen fail before. Clearly there's something wrong with the track.

Shouldn't a curb be something you avoid? I think it's sad that race courses keep getting dumbed-down. When I was a kid, curbs were often these six or eight inch tall things drivers wouldn't think of short-cutting, and those cars had a lot more clearance than modern cars.

[ShiftingGears]

Shouldn't a curb be something you avoid? I think it's sad that race courses keep getting dumbed-down.
Yes I absolutely agree.

When I was a kid, curbs were often these six or eight inch tall things drivers wouldn't think of short-cutting, and those cars had a lot more clearance than modern cars.

http://b.f1-facts.com/ul/a/2714

Yikes!

[Storm]

When does DC not complain thesedays...or Button with his whiney..."no TC and rain in Monaco is disaster"
On topic, they should keep the curbs the way they are....it makes the drivers work harder to go that faster but with a risk of damaging your car if you just keep riding them.

[Miatanut]

Yes I absolutely agree.


http://b.f1-facts.com/ul/a/2714

Yikes!
I was thinking more of these:
http://atlasf1.autosport.com/99/bel/preview/nostalgia1.jpg

I started following in '67, but there were still some of these around then.

[ArrowsFA1]

Shouldn't a curb be something you avoid?
Exactly :up: Obviously racing drivers are always looking for the quickest way around a circuit, and that sometimes means kerb-hopping, but they are supposed to race on the black stuff after all!!

[leopard]

I was thinking more of these:
http://atlasf1.autosport.com/99/bel/preview/nostalgia1.jpg

I started following in '67, but there were still some of these around then.
I must have missed the wheeled dustbins racing. ;) :D

[ShiftingGears]

I was thinking more of these:
http://atlasf1.autosport.com/99/bel/preview/nostalgia1.jpg

I started following in '67, but there were still some of these around then.

How Spa has changed!

[ioan]

Yeah, there is less advertising these days! :D ;)

[SGWilko]

Yeah, there is less advertising these days! :D ;)

It looks like a lot of boards doesn't it. But I guess, as TV audiences are astronimic now, less are required to get the same market penetration? :)

[call_me_andrew]

I recall David Hobbs saying that when he raced at Le Mans, they painted the trees along the Mulsanne Straight white so the drivers could see them at night. Hobbs said that he would have felt safer if he didn't have to see the trees.

[SGWilko]

I recall David Hobbs saying that when he raced at Le Mans, they painted the trees along the Mulsanne Straight white so the drivers could see them at night. Hobbs said that he would have felt safer if he didn't have to see the trees.
:eek:

[Azumanga Davo]

I wonder who bought all those '56 Fords...? Sure as heck can't be many in Europe.

[Jimmy Magnusson]

Oh look, another F1 track pussyfied.

[Miatanut]

I recall David Hobbs saying that when he raced at Le Mans, they painted the trees along the Mulsanne Straight white so the drivers could see them at night. Hobbs said that he would have felt safer if he didn't have to see the trees.

I remember that quote! :D

[ShiftingGears]

I miss those kerbs! The drivers definitely have it easier going into the last chicane.

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Not as bad as I feared.

They're still quite a challenge, the drivers are still having to make corrections on the final apex.

[jens]

Kerbs are less demanding, but the track surface is more demanding - so we have a balance here. :D

[Valve Bounce]

Maybe they should use oil drums instead of kerbs.