[IRC/ERC/PT]Rally Vinho Madeira 31.07-02.08

[Madeira]

Next August will be held Rali Vinho Madeira-31/07 - 02/08

Rally Vinho Madeira (http://www.ralivm.com/)

21 stages

5th round of IRC series (http://www.ircseries.com/html/default.asp)

7th round of ERC 2008 (http://www.rally-erc.com/)

5th round of Portuguese Rally Championship (http://www.cnralis.com/)

5th round of Madeira Rally Championship

Rally regulations (http://www.fpak.pt/REG%20PROVAS%202008/RALI%20VINHO%20MADEIRA/REG%20RALLY%20VINHO%20MADEIRA%202008%20%28UK%29.pd f)

Opening date for entries- Monday 5th of May

Closing date for entries-Monday 14th of July

Publication of the list of entries accepted by the organizer-Wednesday,23rd of July 18:30 hours (GMT)

online results (http://www.ralivm.com/onlineResults/index.cfm)

Not too much to report for you now, only to say that will be the first time that all the competition and service cars will come to the Madeira island from Portugal by ferry-boat...

[Sulland]

Looks like a different and interesting online result service. Someone are starting to realize what you can do with a database and queries !!! :p :

[katxal]

i will be there!

[CEORacingLions]

Me too !!!!!!!!!!!

My second Rally Vinho di Madeira :)

[Madeira]

Welcome Madeira island, Katxal and CEORacingLions.


1993-Andrea Aghini had a big and dangerous crash when he was trying to catch P. Snijers in the leadership of rally.
Patrick Snijers won the rally with his Ford Escort RS Cosworth!

Andrea Aghini 1993 (http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=B1_JCBWOVvw)

[CEORacingLions]

Welcome Madeira island, Katxal and CEORacingLions.


1993-Andrea Aghini had a big and dangerous crash when he was trying to catch P. Snijers in the leadership of rally.
Patrick Snijers won the rally with his Ford Escort RS Cosworth!

Andrea Aghini 1993 (http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=B1_JCBWOVvw)

Thanks Madeira.

And some news about pilots can be there ? Or only more late ?

I heard some noise about Rene Georges want to be there with one or two VW.

I see the Portugal Rally , you too ? Sincerely i expect more , few,few public on stages :confused: .

You think the list can be better than Portogallo ?

When i went to Madeira in 2001 the stages have many , many people. People lives even the Rally.

Which the stages you think are good ? In 2001 i see Santi di Serra, Rifarta and the best Encomiada !!!!

Best regards.

[Madeira]

Thanks Madeira.

And some news about pilots can be there ? Or only more late ?

I heard some noise about Rene Georges want to be there with one or two VW.

I see the Portugal Rally , you too ? Sincerely i expect more , few,few public on stages :confused: .

You think the list can be better than Portogallo ?

When i went to Madeira in 2001 the stages have many , many people. People lives even the Rally.

Which the stages you think are good ? In 2001 i see Santi di Serra, Rifarta and the best Encomiada !!!!

Best regards.
About drivers, only rumours...nothing else. Enrique Garcia Ojeda and Rene Georges are a possibility but is too early to say more. We need to wait for the day of rally. Here everything can happen but in the last few years there are less money to spent with drivers prizes. I think it is impossible to have a better entry list than Rally of Portugal. they have spent lot of money because they had an important support from Portuguese government and in this moment there are some political problems between Madeira government and Portuguese government. By the other side, as you know we have extra costs to bring the rally to the island...

About the people, yes I think you will find here more passion and more people in stages but I'm not absolutely sure if it will be more that you found in 2001. it was the WRC era!!

About the better places to see the rally. Yes basically the rally is the same, so you can see once again in the Santo da Serra (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1803-ojeda.jpg) and Referta (Campo de golfe stage) in the first day, and Saturday The Stage of Rosário very close to the finish of the stage you have a good place (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/737-C37A0762.jpg) , but be careful, you will find to many spectators

If you want additional help, please contact me!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

It will be difficult to have a better entry list than Rally de Portugal..

Rally de Portugal organizers spend a lot of money bringing 6 / 7 cars....

In Madeira organization use to pay for 1 / 2 cars...

[CEORacingLions]

Other editions Madeira have a nice entry list , why this year not possible ? :(

Once this year i'm going to Madeira , government ruin the Rally .

But well , i think at least 10-15 S2000.

Madeira is a Europe and IRC Rally , people like the rally and i think is the rally with many spectators of all season. Not ?

It's sad to know that politics can spoil one of the best things that Madeira's had.

There is more news about it say anything.

[Madeira]

Well, I did not say that we will have a poor entry list, I've said that Rally of Portugal had much more money to spend in comparison with us...part of our budget goes for IRC/Eurosport and other logistic issues. Do you have an idea how much cost to organize a rally with this dimension in a island? Do you have an idea how much cost for any team to bring all of their competitive resources during a week?. Too much money... When I told you about the support that was given for portuguese government to the Rally of Portugal it was because Í'm not sure that the local authorities will have the same ability to make a similar effort and for now Madeira island is part of Portugal!!
For sure, if you come here you will see 10/15 S2000 in action showing an intense pace, friendly people, good food and nice hotels!

[CEORacingLions]

Well, I did not say that we will have a poor entry list, I've said that Rally of Portugal had much more money to spend in comparison with us...part of our budget goes for IRC/Eurosport and other logistic issues. Do you have an idea how much cost to organize a rally with this dimension in a island? Do you have an idea how much cost for any team to bring all of their competitive resources during a week?. Too much money... When I told you about the support that was given for portuguese government to the Rally of Portugal it was because Í'm not sure that the local authorities will have the same ability to make a similar effort and for now Madeira island is part of Portugal!!
For sure, if you come here you will see 10/15 S2000 in action showing an intense pace, friendly people, good food and nice hotels!

As I said I was already there on 2001 or 2002 , the people , stages , temperature , entry list and the island . That's why i'll return.

My wife is portuguese and i know Portogallo and Madeira relatively well.I know well your difficulties in the transport of cars , logistic and other things.

I think is not a real,real problem. Organization has accustomed us with a big and very good events.That's why i go there.

Now ....without support from the government can be a serious problem.

But if you say that we have 10/15 S2000 , not bad.

[Madeira]

Now ....without support from the government can be a serious problem.

But if you say that we have 10/15 S2000 , not bad.

We will have the support from the government, but the own government from here....maybe this support should not be too high as Rally of Portugal had this year..it is question of more money for someone and less for the others. All of this explanation was given because you ask me if we have any chance to see in Rally Vinho Madeira the same level of the drivers like in Portugal, and I told you that is a little bit difficult that this can happen...but is not impossible!

About the number of S2000, we can make these accounts:

Portuguese drivers

Bruno Magalhães-Peugeot 207 S2000
Alexandre Camacho-Peugeot 207 S2000
Vitor Pascoal-Peugeot 207 S2000
Vitor Sá-Peugeot 207 S2000
José Pedro Fontes-Fiat Punto S2000
Nuno Barroso Pereira-Fiat Punto S2000

Foreigners drivers

F Loix- Peugeot 207 S2000
Nicolas Vouilloz-Peugeot 207 S2000
Brice Tirabassi-207 S2000
Giandomenico Basso-Fiat Punto S2000
Anton Alen-Fiat Punto S2000
Corrado Fontana-Fiat Punto S2000
Volkan Isik-Fiat Punto S2000
Dani Solà- Fiat Punto S2000

So I believe that 14 S2000 are almost sure

There are this doubts, but I believe that drivers will come:
Jan Kopecky- Peugeot 207 S2000
Luca Rossetti-Peugeot 207 S2000
Renato Travaglia- Fiat Punto S2000

Rumours:
Enrique Garcia Ojeda-Peugeot 207 S2000

So my bet are 15/18 S2000 this year at least!! lets wait. Is too early!!

[Karbonyl]

And Michal Solowow (207) I guess :)

[Mirek]

Madeira: I thought Vitor Sá ended rallying...

Karbonyl: Solowow? Why? He doesn't skip Madeira as last year?

[Madeira]

And Michal Solowow (207) I guess :)

Yes, this is another doubt that I have. In the beginning of the season I think Rally Vinho Madeira was not in his plans, he never was very competitive here, but now looking on his website it seems he has changed the plans...but I'm not sure. Maybe any polish member can clarify this situation..

[Madeira]

]Madeira: I thought Vitor Sá ended rallying...

Karbonyl: Solowow? Why? He doesn't skip Madeira as last year?

No Mirek, Vitor Sá will be present in the most important rally of his homeland!

He only stopped his career in the Madeira rally championship...It was a strange decision of Vitor!!

[CEORacingLions]

Madeira , i talk with Luca and 80-90 % .

He said that the organization already talks something to him will be present and he liked to go.

Depends next Rallys , budget ...... He likes the type of asphalt from Madeira and could be a great opportunity for him to win some more points

[Madeira]

Madeira , i talk with Luca and 80-90 % .

He said that the organization already talks something to him will be present and he liked to go.

Depends next Rallys , budget ...... He likes the type of asphalt from Madeira and could be a great opportunity for him to win some more points

Thank you CEO, as I said before I'm convinced that people of Madeira will see Luca in action!

[Karbonyl]

]Karbonyl: Solowow? Why? He doesn't skip Madeira as last year?As I remember last year he didn't enter Madeira Rally only because some administrative problems on the borders.

[CEORacingLions]

Yeah , great chances , but careful , nobody knows what can happen in the meantime.

Bad luck and 80-90% can transform on 10-20%.

[Madeira]

Yeah , great chances , but careful , nobody knows what can happen in the meantime.

Bad luck and 80-90% can transform on 10-20%.

yes I know, I know....we have lot of experience in this kind of situation....For me only on the start line to know who effectively comes to the rally, But I keep my hopes. 95% to see Luca here! :D
It will depend of result from ypres, from CIR, but specially €€€€...

[Madeira]

One of the best entry lists that we had


1986 (http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7290/rvm19861parteku3.jpg)

Good entry list but an easy winner- Fabrizio Tabaton-1986 (http://i31.tinypic.com/dr2k9d.jpg)

[Wim_Impreza]

Bernd Casier, 5th last year, will be again there. This time with a VW Polo S2000 from René Georges Rally Sport.

[CEORacingLions]

Wim_Impreza , 100% ?

That's nice !!!

[Tom206wrc]

No MG S2000 scheduled like for Ypres ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

By the way, Bernardo Sousa in the BFGoodrich 207 in Madeira ??? :D

[[Madeira-Rally]]

By the way, Bernardo Sousa in the BFGoodrich 207 in Madeira ??? :D

No TOM...

BFGoodrich competition doesn't run in Madeira....

And Bernardo is trying to start in Finland.. if he starts in Finland it will be very difficult to start in Madeira too... due to proximity of dates

[Wim_Impreza]

Wim_Impreza , 100% ?

That's nice !!!

I asked two weeks ago in Sezoensrally for the plans of Casier this season. Casier confirmed he will drive in Madeira and Barum and if these two rallies are good, they will also drive in Sanremo and Rallye du Valais. ;)

[CEORacingLions]

Wim_Impreza , that's nice , will see what Casier can do. He is a nice pilot and thanks for the information.

Madeira really ? Sousa out ? I'm very suprised with him , sometimes remember me the Gigi.

I see him on Portogallo and his perfomance are very good on 1st round.

Why Sousa go to Finland ? Doesn't run on Portuguese Championship ?

It's a bad notice , i like to see Sousa skills.

[Madeira]

Fine. Thank you Wim_Impreza by your report.
Last year Bernd Casier did an interesting rally for his first time here. He had a fierce battle with Corrado Fontana until the end of the rally. He defeat Corrado by 3,3 seconds and took 6th overall position...

I can make an update in my list, but only on the doubts section: :p

Bruno Magalhães-Peugeot 207 S2000
Alexandre Camacho-Peugeot 207 S2000
Vitor Pascoal-Peugeot 207 S2000
Vitor Sá-Peugeot 207 S2000
José Pedro Fontes-Fiat Punto S2000
Nuno Barroso Pereira-Fiat Punto S2000

Foreigners drivers

F Loix- Peugeot 207 S2000
Nicolas Vouilloz-Peugeot 207 S2000
Brice Tirabassi-207 S2000
Giandomenico Basso-Fiat Punto S2000
Anton Alen-Fiat Punto S2000
Corrado Fontana-Fiat Punto S2000
Volkan Isik-Fiat Punto S2000
Dani Solà- Fiat Punto S2000

So I believe that 14 S2000 are almost sure

There are this doubts, but I believe that drivers will come:
Jan Kopecky- Peugeot 207 S2000
Luca Rossetti-Peugeot 207 S2000
Renato Travaglia- Fiat Punto S2000
Bernd Casier-VW Polo S2000

Rumours:
Enrique Garcia Ojeda-Peugeot 207 S2000

[Madeira]

Wim_Impreza , that's nice , will see what Casier can do. He is a nice pilot and thanks for the information.

Madeira really ? Sousa out ? I'm very suprised with him , sometimes remember me the Gigi.

I see him on Portogallo and his perfomance are very good on 1st round.

Why Sousa go to Finland ? Doesn't run on Portuguese Championship ?

It's a bad notice , i like to see Sousa skills.

Is not confirmed yet that Bernardo will be in Finland. Yes he are doing the portuguese championship. I have my theory about this situation, but I will keep silence about that....because is only personal speculation!!

Sure that Bernardo could be one of the most spetacular drivers in action, but I have no idea if during a single stage or the whole rally....!!

[Madeira]

One of the S2000 that will be present in the next edition of Rally Vinho Madeira.

Alexandre Camacho (http://www.ralismadeira.com/ralismadeira-testesalexandrecamachopedrocalado.wmv)

[karlzoro]

I thought Casier wouldn't start in Madeira because his co-driver is driving with Molder in JWRC in Finland that weekend??
Sousa, I hope he starts in Madeira...rumours with a S2000 (I can't remember where I read this, it was after Portugal)
Are the stages the same this year in Madeira? Because I'm coming for the second time this year... :D

[Tom206wrc]

Must we expect more S2000s than in Ypres(18) ??? ;)

[karlzoro]

Must we expect more S2000s than in Ypres(18) ??? ;)

It could be...
18, less or more...
I love the atmosphere from the Madeira Rally....
http://dmares.zenfolio.com/p1004129925/

VW In Madeira...?
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/int/d5/a5/d/2008/05/20/volkswagen-in-der-irc/index.html

"Auch die zur IRC und Rallye-EM zählende Rali Vinho da Madeira steht auf der Wunschliste der Belgier und zur Zeit werden mit einem Topfahrer aus Madeira Verhandlungen geführt"

Or: Madeira is on the wish list from Casier and a top-driver from Madeira...
In the begin you can read about "Raimund Baumschalger"and is Sousa not driving for baumSchlager??? :rolleyes:

On Casiers Site:
http://www.berndcasier.com/home_nl_08.html
Casier will start in Barum, San Remo and Valais.... :rolleyes:

Greetz

[CEORacingLions]

Yeah , Casier confirmed only on Barum , Remo and Valais.

But after that i think he said would like to go at Madeira , not confirmed , but he hope to be there.

Some Holland people can say if this is true or false :D

[karlzoro]

Yeah , Casier confirmed only on Barum , Remo and Valais.

But after that i think he said would like to go at Madeira , not confirmed , but he hope to be there.

Some Holland people can say if this is true or false :D

I shall ask him on the shakedown in Ypres....
Casier isn't from Holland, but Belgium ;) :D :p

[[Madeira-Rally]]

If Bernardo drive a VW S2000 in Madeir Rally, for sure Casier will be there too..

Bernardo's family pay everithing to Renés Georges... believe me :s mokin:

[Madeira]

]If Bernardo drive a VW S2000 in Madeir Rally, for sure Casier will be there too..

Bernardo's family pay everithing to Renés Georges... believe me :s mokin:

But as you know Paulo, according a local newspaper (DN) Bernardo won't be present in the next edition of Rally Vinho Madeira. He will drive the EVO from BRR in Finland!

[CEORacingLions]

I shall ask him on the shakedown in Ypres....
Casier isn't from Holland, but Belgium ;) :D :p

Yeah , i know that. But the notice is in Holland language , not ? :p

I don't know if in Belgium people talks the same language , but i think so.

[CEORacingLions]

But as you know Paulo, according a local newspaper (DN) Bernardo won't be present in the next edition of Rally Vinho Madeira. He will drive the EVO from BRR in Finland!

And you know the reasons ?

In Filand Bernardo can't get more points for PWRC.

In Azores he will be present , ya ?

Why don't start on Madeira ?

Bad , bad notice.

But well , 11 S2000 at now , confirmed in Madeira.

Fontana and Solowow will be there , cause is a ERC Rally and everybody need points.

Rossetti , like i say to you some weeks before , depends of Ypres and Madeira organization , but i think will be there .

[Madeira]

CEORacingLions:
About Bernardo Sousa there are some details about this situation. He had some contacts to drive one of the Polos from Renes Georges, and he tried to get some support from the Rally Vinho Madeira organization.The answer was NO!! He stayed very angry and decided no compete this year!!


Giandomenico Basso,Anton Alen,Volkan Isik, Bruno Magalhães, are the first names enrolled for the rally!!

Today was held on of the rounds of Madeira Rally Championship. The zero car was driven by Bruno Magalhães and the 00 car was driven by José Pedro Fontes. They come to prepare the next Rally Vinho Madeira, specially the stages in the north of the island!

[CEORacingLions]

It's double bad. If the organization can't support a home-pilot , Rossetti don't go to Madeira.Will see the budget of Racing Lions and Luca Rossetti , but with this notice of Souza i think he's out. :(

[PLuto]

It's double bad. If the organization can't support a home-pilot , Rossetti don't go to Madeira.Will see the budget of Racing Lions and Luca Rossetti , but with this notice of Souza i think he's out. :(

Why do you think that Rossetti go to Madeira?

[CEORacingLions]

My english is a **** and i can't explain my point of view the better way.

I think Rossetti , don't go to Madeira , cause the organization can't support home-pilot ( PWRC pilot ) , i have many doubts that Organization of Madeiras Rally , can have money to Rossetti support.

[Raven]

CEO = chief executive officer, so we have a boss of Racing Lions here! ;)
I hope Travi will be also on the Madeira!

BTW- how long is the contract between RVM and IRC?

[karlzoro]

]If Bernardo drive a VW S2000 in Madeir Rally, for sure Casier will be there too..

Bernardo's family pay everithing to Renés Georges... believe me :s mokin:

If Bernardo drive the S2000, the other option is in the other Polo is Auquier who's driving the belgian Championschip with the S2000....
Casier & Madeira: I'shall ask him next weekend in Ypres...

No Rossetti in Madeira....to bad... :( :(
So you said: support in Ypres & Madeira (€€???) In Ypres they don't have budget to "help" drivers....Madeira??

[karlzoro]

If Bernardo drive the S2000, the other option is in the other Polo is Auquier who's driving the belgian Championschip with the S2000....
Casier & Madeira: I'shall ask him next weekend in Ypres...but I don't think so because his co-driver (Miclotte) is driving with Molder in Finalnd that weekend,but we shall see and I hope with you

No Rossetti in Madeira....to bad... :( :(
So you said: support in Ypres & Madeira (€€???) In Ypres they don't have budget to "help" drivers....Madeira??

[Madeira]

Hei guys!!!
I did not say that Organization of RVM won't give some support to Luca Rossetti!!...I believe that Rossetti will be drive de Pug next August in our roads, because he needs the result for ERC and IRC...!!
The Sousa question is different. What do you think about the support for Bernardo Sousa in relation of other local drivers for example...??? Bernardo Sousa Is doing the Portuguese Championship, Rally Vinho Madeira is part of his program, can imagine you the reaction of the other contenders of Portuguese Championship...? In nowadays our organization have not too much money to spend in prizes for drivers and teams!!. Let's wait!!

Raven:
The contract for IRC was for three years. 2007,2008,2009!

[karlzoro]

Found this on the RVM site:
...always bring to madeira some of the leading names of european and world motorsport. This year will make no exception.
Bernardo Sousa, the young local driver who has been taking part in races of the World Rally Championship, will not miss the great event.
Everything is working to make the 49th edition another big success.

http://www.ralivm.com/news/newsDetails.cfm?nid=397

[CEORacingLions]

Amazing .... a few days ago was all for the wonders to Souza ....

Now .... nothing to nobody , and Souza out.

Well rallys is this ..... but something strange happened .... i think.

Raven , what a clever boy :p

But well , in real life , maybe next year ....dream become real , now a only team friend . :)

[N.O.T]

Its not unusual for the organisers of this event to spread felse rumours.....last year they were mentioning duval and other names...its a common practise for them to anounce 10 names and bring one....

[[Madeira-Rally]]

If rally was for free I would do Rally Vinho Madeira too :D :angel:

[CEORacingLions]

Yeah N.O.T i know that.

Souza is a local pilot , spectacular pilot , run in the PWRC .

I don't if this true but local people seems don't like him . I have portuguese friends , my wife is portuguese and i live a few months per year on Portugal and i know Madeiras very well , is the feeling that I am when i listen portuguese people.

I think people should not forget that Souza takes the name of Madeira Island to the highest "stage" of the World the WRC Champ.

It seems the organization have money to other "contacts" , less for the local pilot. It's good for Rossetti , but really really bad and sad for Souza and spectators like "Gigi Galli style" , still on top with a S2000 car, even if it were the René.

I think the René Georges is with a new team and structure and provide a much better service for their customers.



I had never seen something like that.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Sousa must have the same condition as all other Portuguese drivers...

And no, Sousa doesn't have GiGi Galli style... Sousa have is great to watch but please... don't compare him to Gigi ;)

Most of Portuguese people like Sousa, people aren't against Sousa... trust me ;)

Some people doesn't like Sousa only because of his arrogance...

[Madeira]

Who is this Spanish boy?? (http://www.landshow.pt/sainz.jpg)


Rally Vinho Madeira 1986 (http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/2041/csainzub9.jpg)

Renault-Rally Vinho Madeira (http://autosport.clix.pt/users/37/3712/a394e00c.jpg)

[CEORacingLions]

]Sousa must have the same condition as all other Portuguese drivers...

And no, Sousa doesn't have GiGi Galli style... Sousa have is great to watch but please... don't compare him to Gigi ;)

Most of Portuguese people like Sousa, people aren't against Sousa... trust me ;)

Some people doesn't like Sousa only because of his arrogance...

Well anybody here can write his name on Youtube and see the Videos,the first thought that comes to my mind is Gigi some years before , now Gigi is more cautious but still spectacular. That's why i say Souza have a Gigi style.

Yeah i believe when you say most people like him compared with people don't like. But when you talk about Araujo every people say it's fabulous , wonderful and a lot of things.I believe that , but Araujo is a National Champion , do the PWRC for second time and have 27 28 years old.
Bernardo have 21,22 .... run on PWRC for the first time and makes better results , more faster and spectacular than Araujo , when i saw is result on Greece , for his first time i can't believe !!!!! Spectacular , aggressive but always within the limits to reach the end. Who was on the road knows what I am talking about.
The rumour that i heard is ...... Araujo goes to Madeira and Organization pay!!!!!He have a Pass on Finland too.

When you say "Sousa must have the same condition as all other Portuguese drivers... " , im sorry mate but i can't agree with you.
Bernardo is the future , needs more support than any other Portuguese pilot. This if Portugal wants a World Top 5 Pilot.

Ronaldo and Mourinho are much more arrogant than anyone but the people there love them.

Anyway , i want a rally as good like the Organization has accustomed the fans cause I already bought my "ticket" and I have everything marked.

[CEORacingLions]

And Madeiras i need some help. The Encomiada Stage are on first round ?

I see Santo D' Serra , Encomiada and Pouzzo. How many stages i can see , or what's for you the better and spectaculars stages and places ?

[Madeira]

CEO, You must understand Paulo ([Madeira-Rally)) is a fanatic for GIGI, for him any comparison with gigi is an offence!! :D
About Bernardo, of course he is a pure talent, I would like to see him driving in the next rally vinho Madeira, but personaly I agree 100% with the decision of organization. For most of you it is not easy to understand why....but I think it was a good decision...!!

[Madeira]

And Madeiras i need some help. The Encomiada Stage are on first round ?

I see Santo D' Serra , Encomiada and Pouzzo. How many stages i can see , or what's for you the better and spectaculars stages and places ?

http://www.ralivm.com/detailedRoute/index.cfm

Well, They will pass in Encumeada in the first Leg (Friday) and second leg (saturday). But pay attention the name of this stage is Serra D' Água in Day one and they will sart in South and go to the north. In day two the name of this stage is Rosário, and they came from North to the south. This is the most carismatic stage of rally, In saturday (Rosário) there are lot of people t, it is important to see the cars when they go down on the stage. there are many places. I suggest you the last hairpin very close to the finish line but too many people, but good atmosphere...
I think it is possible to see four stages in Day one... For Campo de Golfe, you can choose Santo da Serra or Portela. The next stage Terreiros, you can go to the Poiso, Terreiro da Luta or Choupana...In the friday afternoon you can choose Serra D'Água, (North), Boaventura(North but far away), or the new stage Santana, and I don't now very well where is exactly...
Saturday:

Like I said , You have two more, You must Choose one of them. The best is Rosário, but lot of Traffic, people and hot weather!
Chão da Lagoa is very close to Funchal, is the same stage that they made in the first day (terreiros) but in reverse order. They will pass in Poiso...
Paul and Ponta do Pargo hummmm, I don't now...
I think you must know a detailed route to rich the stages...
6/7 stages is the minimum... If you want more only with a rally car!!

CEO, If you prefer I can send for you an email in Portuguese language, and your wife could make a translation about your questions!

[CEORacingLions]

CEO, You must understand Paulo ([Madeira-Rally)) is a fanatic for GIGI, for him any comparison with gigi is an offence!! :D
About Bernardo, of course he is a pure talent, I would like to see him driving in the next rally vinho Madeira, but personaly I agree 100% with the decision of organization. For most of you it is not easy to understand why....but I think it was a good decision...!!

I'm a Gigi Fan too. I say Gigi Style , not the same Gigi Skills.
If you say the decision of organization is the best, well you know better than me certainly :D

I understand the basic information of your explanation but in these matters sometimes only the basics is not enough. Like you know my english not my best skill.

I appreciated if you can do that. I send my email to your private box. When you have some time , translate the post to portuguese , next my wife explain in italian. Then it's easier for me to find the roads and places I will no longer there , I have an idea of the streets, but as you know there are many, small , more bigger , roundabouts , increases, decreases.. etc etc... and i miss me :D

Thank you very much.

[Madeira]

Renato Travaglia, Brice Tirabassi and Marco Cavigioli are the last names enrolled for the rally!


Bruno Magalhães-Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Alexandre Camacho-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Vitor Pascoal-Peugeot 207 S2000
Vitor Sá-Peugeot 207 S2000
José Pedro Fontes-Fiat Punto S2000- OK
Nuno Barroso Pereira-Fiat Punto S2000

Foreigners drivers

F Loix- Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Nicolas Vouilloz-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Brice Tirabassi-207 S2000-OK
Giandomenico Basso-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Anton Alen-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Corrado Fontana-Fiat Punto S2000
Volkan Isik-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Dani Solà- Fiat Punto S2000
Renato Travaglia- Fiat Punto S2000-OK

So I believe that 14 S2000 are almost sure

There are this doubts, but I believe that drivers will come:
Jan Kopecky- Peugeot 207 S2000
Luca Rossetti-Peugeot 207 S2000

Other Drivers:
Marco Cavigioli-Fiat Punto Diesel-OK
Fernando Peres- Mitsubishi EVO IX-OK

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I think we can add Kopecky and Rossetti to the list ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Why not Luca Betti too now he drives a 207 S2000 ??? ;)


I thought Manfred Stohl was also contacted by organizers :confused:


Edit: and Michal Solowow, as he runs the ERC ??? :confused:

[Madeira]

Tom:

Closing date for entries-Monday 14th of July

But ok, I will add the Betti and Solowow names in doubts section!

Bruno Magalhães-Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Alexandre Camacho-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Vitor Pascoal-Peugeot 207 S2000
Vitor Sá-Peugeot 207 S2000
José Pedro Fontes-Fiat Punto S2000- OK
Nuno Barroso Pereira-Fiat Punto S2000

Foreigners drivers

F Loix- Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Nicolas Vouilloz-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Brice Tirabassi-207 S2000-OK
Giandomenico Basso-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Anton Alen-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Corrado Fontana-Fiat Punto S2000
Volkan Isik-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Dani Solà- Fiat Punto S2000
Renato Travaglia- Fiat Punto S2000-OK

So I believe that 14 S2000 are almost sure

There are this doubts, but I believe that drivers will come:
Jan Kopecky- Peugeot 207 S2000
Luca Rossetti-Peugeot 207 S2000
Luca Betti- Peugeot 207 S2000
Michal Solowow-Peugeot 207 S2000

Other Drivers:
Marco Cavigioli-Fiat Punto Diesel-OK
Fernando Peres- Mitsubishi EVO IX-OK
Alessandro Bettega-Honda Civic R3

[Raven]

Looking at this provisional entry list makes me sit and cry...

[karlzoro]

Looking at this provisional entry list makes me sit and cry...

cry???why???

[Mirek]

I think because of poor entry of Rajd Polski...

[Raven]

Bingo!

[Madeira]

Bruno Magalhães-Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Alexandre Camacho-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Vitor Pascoal-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Vitor Sá-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
José Pedro Fontes-Fiat Punto S2000- OK
Nuno Barroso Pereira-Fiat Punto S2000-OK

Foreigners drivers

F Loix- Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Nicolas Vouilloz-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Brice Tirabassi-207 S2000-OK
Giandomenico Basso-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Anton Alen-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Corrado Fontana-Fiat Punto S2000
Volkan Isik-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Dani Solà- Fiat Punto S2000
Renato Travaglia- Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Luca Betti- Peugeot 207 S2000-OK

So I believe that 14 S2000 are almost sure

There are this doubts, but I believe that drivers will come:
Jan Kopecky- Peugeot 207 S2000
Luca Rossetti-Peugeot 207 S2000
Michal Solowow-Peugeot 207 S2000

Other Drivers:
Marco Cavigioli-Fiat Punto Diesel-OK
Fernando Peres- Mitsubishi EVO IX-OK
Alessandro Bettega-Honda Civic R3

S1600
Filipe Freitas-Clio S1600-OK
Miguel Nunes-Peugeot S1600-OK
António Nunes-Peugeot S1600-OK
Duarte Abreu-Fiat Punto S1600-OK

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Paulo Fontes from Rally Vinho Madeira organization said that Renés Georges asked for too much money to come to Madeira...

[karlzoro]

]Paulo Fontes from Rally Vinho Madeira organization said that Renés Georges asked for too much money to come to Madeira...

I asked Casier yesterdag on his Ypres Test...he don't start in Madeira because his co-driver is starting in Finland with Molder...that program was 100% this winter and he don't want that his co-driver to break with Molder for this season....
Normaly Casier wouldn't drive this year and so his co arranged a programme with Molder this winter

and the money....that's also an option, I think that it would be a "little bit" of the 2 ;)

[karlzoro]

Hi guys (and girls),

I'm back from an exiting Ypres with a great winner :) :)
I asked Kopecky fridy of he will compete in Madeira, his answer was: no......
I don't know if he will compete Russia??

[Karbonyl]

I don't know how badly is his Pug damaged, but it's very short time to repair the bodyshell and transport the car to Russia within just two weeks. So rather not count with his entrance...

[Madeira]

Hi guys (and girls),

I'm back from an exiting Ypres with a great winner :) :)
I asked Kopecky fridy of he will compete in Madeira, his answer was: no......



Thanks Karlzoro!

was definitive no???

and what about another drivers???

Luca Rossetti said to Eurosport that next rally should be Rally Vinho Madeira...

[Mirek]

Karbonyl: Kopecký said in a press release that the concrete pillar broke oil sump guard and damaged engine. I think that could be more serious than bodyshell...

[CEORacingLions]

Mirek , the stone was placed there on purpose was not? Who could have been that?

I can't believe exists people like that nowadays.

I think if the Kopecky will not go to Madeira, not go to Russia too. To choose any of them will be the Madeira Wine cause it is farther away and gives time to turn everything ok.

[Mirek]

CEORacingLions: I don't feel I can say "it was on purpose" or "it wasn't". Simply I don't have enough information as I wasn't there. I just translated their press statement.

[CEORacingLions]

But in your opinion you think that the stone was placed on purpose or not? And who could have done so, for what purpose? Champ points or something like that ?

Is very strange the stone appears only for him.
Voillouz (if I am not mistaken) passed there before and was nothing on the road and moreover, according the stone was in a strategic area.
Very Very strange and sad.

In his press statement , he said something about future participations on IRC ?



Thanks for your attention.

[Mirek]

Please, follow Ypres thread, I wrote there short summary of the press release and also sent onboards. Here we are off topic ;)

[PLuto]

Jan Kopecky wont definitely start in Russia. His start on Madeira wasnt in pre-season plans, he wont be there too.

Luca Rossetti will start in Madeira, it is sure :)

[claudio]

Pluto are you sure?

[Mirek]

It is sure.

[claudio]

Thanks

[Madeira]

Thanks by your reports

So I can make a new update:

Bruno Magalhães-Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Alexandre Camacho-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Vitor Pascoal-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Vitor Sá-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
José Pedro Fontes-Fiat Punto S2000- OK
Nuno Barroso Pereira-Fiat Punto S2000-OK

Foreigners drivers

F Loix- Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Nicolas Vouilloz-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Brice Tirabassi-207 S2000-OK
Giandomenico Basso-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Anton Alen-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Corrado Fontana-Fiat Punto S2000
Volkan Isik-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Dani Solà- Fiat Punto S2000
Renato Travaglia- Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Luca Betti- Peugeot 207 S2000-OK

There are this doubts, but I believe that drivers will come:

Jan Kopecky- Peugeot 207 S2000 OUT
Luca Rossetti-Peugeot 207 S2000 OK
Michal Solowow-Peugeot 207 S2000

Other Drivers:
Marco Cavigioli-Fiat Punto Diesel--OK
Fernando Peres- Mitsubishi EVO IX--OK
Alessandro Bettega-Honda Civic R3
Adruzilo Lopes-Subaru--OK

S1600
Filipe Freitas-Clio S1600--OK
Miguel Nunes-Peugeot S1600--OK
António Nunes-Peugeot S1600--OK
Duarte Abreu-Fiat Punto S1600--OK
José Camacho-Peugeot S1600--OK

[Raven]

Michał Sołowow is not going to drive in RVM. Already at the beginning of the season his calendar didn't include it.

[claudio]

bad news Raven

kopecky and solowow out of the rally...

a portuguese site says that bernd casier is in negotiations
http://www.motoresmagazine.com/noticia.php?ID=2496

[CEORacingLions]

I think Casier wont start in Madeira too.

I have my doubts , but i think Madeira Organization try some "World Pilot".

Stohl was there on 2002 , i think is the Organization choice.

Some people know more than me certainly , but i'm convinced that it can be true.

I don't have information about Finland , will see if we have surprises in next days.

[PLuto]

Casier wont be on Madeira, it is sure.

[PLuto]

But maybe Snijers is thinking about it. With third Kronos car http://www.bahno.cz/minismile/ms_1979.gif

[CEORacingLions]

I don't believe Snijers will be there. Who pays the car ?

Snijers is a great pilot, but is not the one with pilot name to help publicise the rally .

If Organization wont pay Souza , i don't believe pay all costs of Snijers rally.
But well , if he will be there ...will be a pleasure to see .

[claudio]

Snijers have win the rally for 2 times... he is an "expert" in Rally Vinho Madeira
we will see

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I don't believe Snijers will be there. Who pays the car ?

Snijers is a great pilot, but is not the one with pilot name to help publicise the rally .

If Organization wont pay Souza , i don't believe pay all costs of Snijers rally.
But well , if he will be there ...will be a pleasure to see .

i wouldn't be too much surprised if organization pay Snijers and don't pay Sousa...

In previous years we saw some foreigner drivers that get paid to be here.. and they weren't top drivers....

[Tom206wrc]

Why not Manfred Stohl too, if he aims other participations to IRC(first with Russian, then...who knows) ?? ;)

[Jarek Z]

Snijers is a great pilot, but is not the one with pilot name to help publicise the rally .

If Organization wont pay Souza , i don't believe pay all costs of Snijers rally.

Maaaaan, let's be serious and not compare Snijers and Souza! I'm sorry but what are Souza's achievments, because I don't know any? About Snijers' achievements you can nearly write the whole book!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Maaaaan, let's be serious and not compare Snijers and Souza! I'm sorry but what are Souza's achievments, because I don't know any? About Snijers' achievements you can nearly write the whole book!

I agree with you Jarek..
As I said one time before... Snijers... is a real "Gentleman driver" ;)

[claudio]

I agree with jarek too...
And i think sousa it will not participate in the rally because he don`t want to participate. If he really want his father is a big fan of rally and have very money...

Very good it will be have a fabia s2000 in the rally... but it`s impossible.

[CEORacingLions]

Mates , i'm not compare Snijers and Souza , but local pilot with foreign pilot. Simply like that.
And if the Casier achieved a 4 th place in Ypres, who tells me that the Souza in his house would not be more competitive for the rally that Snijers ,although a really great driver ?

I think the Organizations have this point of view. Regardless of Snijers be a huge pilot compared with Souza.

[karlzoro]

:confused: Hi,

I've found 2 news artikels on het net about RVM 2008,
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1030&Itemid=1

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1026&Itemid=1

can some of the portuguese members translate this please??
I think that it says that bettega will start and Sousa won't :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently Ralismadeira.com confirms the presence of Rossetti ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Articles says that Bettega won't start in Madeira and Sousa won't start too..

[DonJippo]

]Articles says that Bettega won't start in Madeira and Sousa won't start too..

Both are on the entrylist of NORF.

[PLuto]

Apparently Ralismadeira.com confirms the presence of Rossetti ;)

I have confirmed presence of Rossetti - it isnt sufficient for you? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

I look for all sources Pluto... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

On Ralismadeiras.com they write Solowow's participation "in doubt" :confused:


Therefore this event is European Rally Championship and Michal is running this one :confused:

[Raven]

Tom, again you didn't read clearly what somebody wrote earlier :)
Already at the beginning of the season Sołowow didn't plan to visit Madeira.

[Tom206wrc]

Ok ;)

[karlzoro]

Why don't they try to get an MG in Madeira ;) That would be very nice...
If they want a top-driver in Madeira: I hope theydon't chose for Duval..."not interested in IRC" he said some time ago

[CEORacingLions]

I think Xavi Pons and Garcia Ojeda should be the next to enter names on the list, someone there to say if it is true or not , better than me. Only rumour i heard on "backstage".

[claudio]

This site http://www.motoresmagazine.com/noticia.php?ID=2515 confirmes xavi pons

[Madeira]

Yes, looks like that Xavi Pons is confirmed with a Mistsubishi Evo IX. This weekend tha Chairman of Rally Vinho Madeira will be in Açores to assist the rally, and another deals can be revealed, or not, like Enrique Gracia Ojeda...

New update:

Bruno Magalhães-Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Alexandre Camacho-Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Vitor Pascoal-Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Vitor Sá-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
José Pedro Fontes-Fiat Punto S2000- OK
Nuno Barroso Pereira-Fiat Punto S2000-OK

Foreigners drivers

F Loix- Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Nicolas Vouilloz-Peugeot 207 S2000-OK
Brice Tirabassi-207 S2000-OK
Giandomenico Basso-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Anton Alen-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Corrado Fontana-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Volkan Isik-Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Dani Solà- Fiat Punto S2000
Renato Travaglia- Fiat Punto S2000-OK
Luca Betti- Peugeot 207 S2000- OK
Luca Rossetti-Peugeot 207 S2000 OK

Doubts
Michal Solowow-Peugeot 207 S2000
Enrique Garcia Ojeda

Other Drivers:
Marco Cavigioli-Fiat Punto Diesel--OK
Fernando Peres- Mitsubishi EVO IX--OK
Adruzilo Lopes-Subaru--OK
Alessandro Proh Mistsubishi EVO IX-OK
Xavi Pons Mistsubishi EVO IX-OK

S1600

Filipe Freitas-Clio S1600--OK
Miguel Nunes-Peugeot S1600--OK
António Nunes-Peugeot S1600--OK
Duarte Abreu-Fiat Punto S1600--OK
José Camacho-Peugeot S1600--OK

[Madeira]

One of the big crashes that we had, without consequences for the crew!

Peter Bijvelds 2002 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEI6mIPe6aM)

Pic (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/6468/peterbijvelds11zb7.jpg)

[katxal]

solowow says in his website calendar that he will compete in madeira...

31 lipiec - 2 sierpień Madera Rally

[claudio]

good news katxal

What is it his site? i don`t find it

[karlzoro]

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1050&Itemid=1

Can someone translate this?? I read Sousa, RVM...??

[claudio]

Karlzoro thats about the crash of sousa in the Sata Rally açores.

Google Tradutor:

The luck did not seem to have been on the side of the young pilot Madeiran what is the proof of the 4 th National Rally Championship and evidence before the Madeira Wine Rally, the Rally Sata Azores. After completing the 12 th special 6 of a good stand, Bernardo Sousa has been a victim of the random number since in 13 th proof particular, Ribeira Grande, the pilot of Red Bull was unable to prevent an outflow of road and that the reason for their abandonment .

The young pilot: "In a curve to the left rear of the car got out and failed to prevent the mass grave was. Contrary to what had happened yesterday, this time - to be a mass grave deeper - has become impossible to remove the car and return to the road ... The car was good, in mechanical terms there was nothing that prevents us from continuing. It was more annoying ...". Still Madeira desafaba that the pilot: "It seems that this evidence does not want anything on me. We have always some chance that prevents us from the finish. I am sad because it is a proof that I like and had a special liking to finish ...". On yesterday Sousa had already lost much time due to have been jammed into a kerb, today the lucky not to want to come back with nothing Madeiran pilot giving so complete, earlier, his participation in land Azores. It is hoped better luck in the Rally of Finland.

[katxal]

good news katxal

What is it his site? i don`t find it


http://www.cersanitrally.pl/index1.php/Strony/Pokaz/kalendarium

[Madeira]

According motoresmagazine.com Enrique Garcia Ojeda is very close to confirm his presence in the next RVM... If he comes he will not use the same car that he used in Rally dos Açores.

One week to finish the entries!

The Portuguese driver José Pedro Fontes will have a completly new bodywork for his Punto S2000, basicly, he says this will be a new car...

[Madeira]

After Portuguese Fiat, time for Peugeot Portugal present a new 207 S2000 in Rally Vinho Madeira. The new car was the 18th chassis built by Peugeot Sport. Bruno Magalhães has a safe lead on the Portuguese Championship and he will try to make a great rally here...
In the other plan the manager of the team Carlos Barros said that they keep the interest to start The rally of Asturias and Sanremo but at the moment they have not enough budget to do it!!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

After Portuguese Fiat, time for Peugeot Portugal present a new 207 S2000 in Rally Vinho Madeira. The new car was the 18th chassis built by Peugeot Sport. Bruno Magalhães has a safe lead on the Portuguese Championship and he will try to make a great rally here...
In the other plan the manager of the team Carlos Barros said that they keep the interest to start The rally of Asturias and Sanremo but at the moment they have not enough budget to do it!!

The info about the news car of Peugeot Portugal doesn't seem to be the most correct..

Peugeot Sport build more than 50 chassis... if Peugeot Portugal will have Chassin nº 18... hom long they have this chassis ?

Very strange information by Peugeot Portugal :s

[Raven]

In Sołowow's calendar there is Madeira Rally, but before the season the team said they wouldn't visit the island. We must wait and see.

[Madeira]

Bad news, according local TV Vitor Sá won't be present in rally and also Ojeda e Xavi Pons!!
Sá is nearly to sell the Peugeot and Ojeda and Pons are asking for much money!!

[wwbroe]

That is really bad news. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Mirek]

And the same song like every year repeats...

[Raven]

Vitor Sa sells the car? What he can get better than P207???

[Madeira]

]And the same song like every year repeats...

But this time was not the organization that confirmed their presences, were the journalists...someone of them asking directly the drivers...

[N.O.T]

same story every year with this rally.....the organisers are really stupid amateurs....every single year about 1-2 months before the event they announce every possible driver in the world as a certainty and when the event closes in the cancellations start....

[Madeira]

Vitor Sa sells the car? What he can get better than P207???

Raven, Vitor little by little is leaving the rallys world....no more rallys this year and for the next season maybe two!

[Raven]

So, who is the fastest Madeiran now?

[Madeira]

So, who is the fastest Madeiran now?

The fastest man is clearly Alexandre Camacho (ftp://mirrors.netmadeira.com/pub/Videos/Rali/Videos2008/Testes/ralismadeira-testesalexandrecamachopedrocalado.wmv) . Vitor Sá has showed some difficultties to follow him...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

same story every year with this rally.....the organisers are really stupid amateurs....every single year about 1-2 months before the event they announce every possible driver in the world as a certainty and when the event closes in the cancellations start....


NOT, I am from Madeira and I have almost the same opinion as you about the organization...
but this time, organization is clean... the guilty of this case is a guy from a local website who announced Ojeda, Pons, etc...

Currently we have 2 websites about rallys in Madeira... and he looks like they are in a competition to see who have more decent news.. and sometimes this happens... in this case both sites wrote the same... that Ojeda and Pons should come to the rally...
I think that they were a possibility as the chairman of the rally said.. but nothing was confirmed.. and yesterday he said that they souldn't come because they ask a lot of money...

Press should be carefull when they announce something.. but unfortunately they don't have...

[wwbroe]

Well it is a pitty that those guys wont be there, but the entrylist still looks pretty decent to me ;)

[karlzoro]

No Ojeda & Pons?? Oh, if I see a nice battle o n the Island I don't care...
Do you think that Camacho could follow Magalhaes on the stages? Or is he not that fast as Bruno???

[Madeira]

No Ojeda & Pons?? Oh, if I see a nice battle o n the Island I don't care...
Do you think that Camacho could follow Magalhaes on the stages? Or is he not that fast as Bruno???

This season on the Madeira Rally Championship without any kind opposition Alexandre Camacho has beaten some stages records. He has the technical support from Peugeot Portugal, but I don't now if he will show a consistent pace along the rally, by the other side I think Bruno's Peugeot is a little bit more competitive than the local car...I'm sure that you will appreciate the style driving of Camacho...

[karlzoro]

This season on the Madeira Rally Championship without any kind opposition Alexandre Camacho has beaten some stages records. He has the technical support from Peugeot Portugal, but I don't now if he will show a consistent pace along the rally, by the other side I think Bruno's Peugeot is a little bit more competitive than the local car...I'm sure that you will appreciate the style driving of Camacho...

last year with his S1600 on the finish of " Serra de Agua" or something???(The stage over the mountain (on the top of mountain you cna drive to Paul de Serra??) In tha t stage in tha lst corner before the finish.... :hot: :hot: He impresses me?I tought that Freitas (from internet vids) was spectacular but Camacho.... :s mokin: Is/was that his brother or family the other Camacho in the 2007 rally??

[N.O.T]

]NOT, I am from Madeira and I have almost the same opinion as you about the organization...
but this time, organization is clean... the guilty of this case is a guy from a local website who announced Ojeda, Pons, etc...

Currently we have 2 websites about rallys in Madeira... and he looks like they are in a competition to see who have more decent news.. and sometimes this happens... in this case both sites wrote the same... that Ojeda and Pons should come to the rally...
I think that they were a possibility as the chairman of the rally said.. but nothing was confirmed.. and yesterday he said that they souldn't come because they ask a lot of money...

Press should be carefull when they announce something.. but unfortunately they don't have...

if the organisation didn't spread those rumours then that really honors them and they learned from their mistakes.... journalists always seem to inflate things so nothing new there.

[karlzoro]

last year with his S1600 on the finish of " Serra de Agua" or something???(The stage over the mountain (on the top of mountain you cna drive to Paul de Serra??) In tha t stage in tha lst corner before the finish.... :hot: :hot: He impresses me?I tought that Freitas (from internet vids) was spectacular but Camacho.... :s mokin: Is/was that his brother or family the other Camacho in the 2007 rally??

This is the place that I try to discribe: http://dmares.zenfolio.com/p1004129925/?photo=h0571A0B4#91332788

Basso, Travaglia, Magalhaes, Navarra & Camacho were very spectacular there in 2007. This year they drive ther on friday I think??

[Madeira]

last year with his S1600 on the finish of " Serra de Agua" or something???(The stage over the mountain (on the top of mountain you cna drive to Paul de Serra??) In tha t stage in tha lst corner before the finish.... :hot: :hot: He impresses me?I tought that Freitas (from internet vids) was spectacular but Camacho.... :s mokin: Is/was that his brother or family the other Camacho in the 2007 rally??

Yes good knowledge of terrain Karlzoro, you are right, the last corner is in Serra D'Água (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1862-travaglia2.jpg) whose stage is "Rosário" (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1862-ojeda3.jpg). (Saturday). In that stage but from the top of mountain you can move into Paul Da Serra, but you need to walk 2 or 3 km to the end of the stage. But if you prefer you can also move from the same road (Paul) and go to "Santa do Porto Moniz" (20 minutes driving the car) to see the final of Ponta do Pargo stage, but is not too much spectacular
No, Alexandre Camacho has not any brother making rallys!!

[Madeira]

This is the place that I try to discribe: http://dmares.zenfolio.com/p1004129925/?photo=h0571A0B4#91332788

Basso, Travaglia, Magalhaes, Navarra & Camacho were very spectacular there in 2007. This year they drive ther on friday I think??
Yes I know...I was there too!! :)
No Karl, Friday they will start from there and go up...I suggest the other side of the mountain very close to the end Rosário (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1803-vouilloz.jpg)
Stage "Campo de Golfe" (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1803-ojeda.jpg) very Close "Santo da Serra".

[karlzoro]

Yes I know...I was there too!! :)
No Karl, Friday they will start from there and go up...I suggest the other side of the mountain very close to the end Rosário (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1803-vouilloz.jpg)
Stage "Campo de Golfe" (http://www.ralivm.com/depot/galleryPhotos/1803-ojeda.jpg) very Close "Santo da Serra".

The Friday we "stayed" in the ecological parc on the second stage, tha part taht they compete 4 times on that day, 2times up and 2 times downhill (to Funchal)...Very nice views there...
Are there some other "very" spectacular places in the rally like the finish in serra de agua???...

That picture of campeo de golfe...Is it possible that I've seen that passage in one or more rally's from the Madeira Championschip???

[Tom206wrc]

Too bad for Sà and Ojeda :(

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The Friday we "stayed" in the ecological parc on the second stage, tha part taht they compete 4 times on that day, 2times up and 2 times downhill (to Funchal)...Very nice views there...
Are there some other "very" spectacular places in the rally like the finish in serra de agua???...

That picture of campo de golfe...Is it possible that I've seen that passage in one or more rally's from the Madeira Championschip???

Yes... almost all local rallys pass in the place were the photo of campo de golf was taken...

[PLuto]

In Sołowow's calendar there is Madeira Rally, but before the season the team said they wouldn't visit the island. We must wait and see.

Confirmed directly from Solowow's team - he will start in Madeira and he may miss some events in polish championship.

[Madeira]

Confirmed directly from Solowow's team - he will start in Madeira and he may miss some events in polish championship.

Thank you!!
Not bad indeed. One more S2000 on the list!

[Madeira]

I've read today a small interview with the Chairman of rally Vinho Madeira where he says that some surprises can be happen next monday with the entries!!!

I know how this things may finish....!!! :disturb:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The surprise will be Solowow in the entry list :s mokin:

[Tom206wrc]

Manfred Stohl would also be a welcomed surprise :p :

[Raven]

Sołowow? Probably his car will break down again :(

[[Madeira-Rally]]

The entries close today at 17:00
they will present the drivers today!

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for more news :D

[Tom206wrc]

So ??? :confused:

[Madeira]

So ??? :confused:

Be calm Tom, the press conference to release de main names of rally will start 6:30 pm (7:30 french hour)...

[CEORacingLions]

My bets are Haninen or Duval or Stohl or ... nobody ... or.... :)

[Mirek]

...or it will be me and I will drive new secret rallycar Kamaz S20000 :D

[wwbroe]

Still no news out of Madeirz entrylist? Waiting with patience. :D

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Nothing new to the entries..

Only confirmation of Lemes.. and an unknown Italian driver with a Subaru...
the rest of drivers.. nothing new...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Cyril Vosahlois the name of the italian driver...
someone know something about him?

[CEORacingLions]

Italian ? I think is French or something like that , but well ..... if he is italian i don't know nothing about him.

Nice entry list .

I expected more after seeing the Rally Portugal, but it already provides for one good week for me.

[Mirek]

Cyril Vosahlo is Frenchman who is doing all ERC this year. CEO is right.

[[Madeira-Rally]]

If he is French.. maybe Tom can know something about him...

[Madeira]

Yes, no surprises. Only Yeray Lemes the young and talented driver from Canary islands...

[Mirek]

[Madeira-Rally]: You can simply watch results from ERC this year. He was at least on Mille Miglia and Ypres (both retirements).

[Wim_Impreza]

Yes, Cyril Vosahlo is a French gentlemen-driver. His best result in ERC was a 7th place in Rallye d'Antibes 2007.

[Tom206wrc]

Disappointment for me the "surprise(s)" :(

[Mirek]

In fact Vosáhlo is Czech name but Cyril is French speaking only French :)

[RS]

Nice entry list .



It may very well be, but where is it?

I can't find it on the official site.

[Madeira]

It may very well be, but where is it?

I can't find it on the official site.

The final entry list will be released -Wednesday,23rd of July 18:30 hours!

[wwbroe]

Does anybody have access to rallyguide of Madeira Rally, because on the site you need a login. If you don't want to make it public, please sent me a personal message or mail. Thanks. :)

[Madeira]

Does anybody have access to rallyguide of Madeira Rally, because on the site you need a login. If you don't want to make it public, please sent me a personal message or mail. Thanks. :)

wwbroe, What you want? detailed route? road book??

I guess the road book only the drivers can get...

http://www.ralivm.com/detailedRoute/index.cfm

Bruno Magalhães and Peugeot Portugal were testing today!

Video:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=HkXEq2ticq8

[Tom206wrc]

Why so late the entrylist ??? What happens ?? :confused:

[Madeira]

Why so late the entrylist ??? What happens ?? :confused:

Tom, read the post number 166 please...

[wwbroe]

wwbroe, What you want? detailed route? road book??

I guess the road book only the drivers can get...


Madeira, thank you, i was looking for the rallyguide. Most off other rally's you can get it from official web-site, and also the extra regulations. In Madeira it seems to be pasword-protected, so i was wondering if anybody has the login? ;)

[wwbroe]

Bruno Magalhães and Peugeot Portugal were testing today!

Video:

http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=HkXEq2ticq8

Nice video, is that not the crosspoint with special stage Sao Bras Alportel from this year Portugal Rally? The place they are servicing looks like where the special stage crossed the tarmac road. ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Why so late the entrylist ??? What happens ?? :confused:

Nothing wrong..
It's the normal day to present the final entry list!

[pantealex]

]Nothing wrong..
It's the normal day to present the final entry list!
WRC NORF is run same time as madeira, they present entrylist for this year 4.7, I think that is normal!

[CEORacingLions]

But until there is only possible to drop , sure ?

Or an organization may invite some more pilots of last minute ? And some "top pilots" can sign up until that date ?

[Mirek]

pantealex: I don't think that revealing entry list so soon is good because You can't accept any entry after that without permition of FIA. In fact I don't see any sence in revealing entry list that long time before rally.

[Madeira]

Dani Solà will do tomorrow morning a decisive test with Procar's Punto to see if everything is ok with the car. He is not very happy with the team after Russia withdrawal and will decide tomorrow if he comes to the rally!!

[CEORacingLions]

Madeira news about ?

[Madeira]

Madeira news about ?

CEO, No news about Solà yet...!
Maybe no news mean good news :)

[Fiorio]

in ralismadeira.com said Sola not running in madeira, no budget enough... :(

[CEORacingLions]

Yeah.....

Kopecky and Solá are 2 top pilots really bad for Rally Madira :(

[karlzoro]

Hi Guys,

I'm realy loking forward to come to Madeira next weekend...
Can someone help with this: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ub8auZnlyF8

Does anyone knows where this is? Is this in the ecological park on friday??

[karlzoro]

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1125&Itemid=1

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1124&Itemid=1

no Sola and no Fontana??? I hope I'm wrong..... :confused: :rolleyes:

When are the stage on the site???

[CEORacingLions]

Yeah .... both out.... well and the rally is only 31 ....

Like you i'll be there and hope not appear more drops....

[Fiorio]

Hi Guys,

I'm realy loking forward to come to Madeira next weekend...
Can someone help with this: http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=ub8auZnlyF8

Does anyone knows where this is? Is this in the ecological park on friday??

yes, its in ecological park, this stage happened only in RVM....is in north of funchal in mountains up of city....the madeira or madeira-rally will help you...

[c4]

Rally-Live provoisional entry

Sneak peek:

http://www.rally-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/080718175130.shtml

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Rally-Live provoisional entry

Sneak peek:

http://www.rally-live.com/en/headlines/news/detail/080718175130.shtml

There are some names already from the rally..

Sola and Fontana...

[CEORacingLions]

Madeira-Rally Sola and Fontana out , confirmed 100% ?

ralimadeira.com say that but i went see official site , and nothing about that.....you think that's possible anymore surprise in entrylist ?

Entries or withdrawals ?

[Madeira]

Madeira-Rally Sola and Fontana out , confirmed 100% ?

ralimadeira.com say that but i went see official site , and nothing about that.....you think that's possible anymore surprise in entrylist ?

Entries or withdrawals ?

Solà have not enough budget!
No, no more surprises good or bad...

[karlzoro]

yes, its in ecological park, this stage happened only in RVM....is in north of funchal in mountains up of city....the madeira or madeira-rally will help you...

thanks allready Fiorio

next week this time I shall have a nice Madeira view instaed of my computer :D
Now hope for good result for Loix and I will be very happy instead of happy :) :)

The ecological park is "hte place to be"???
Does anyone know some place in the rally like the finish of the stage in Aque de Serra???? With nice passages and a lovely atmosphere??
Thanks allready guys

Does anyone have the "recce" timing??? I can't find this on the site... :confused: not even stge maps from 2008 :(

[katxal]

Madeira-Rally Sola and Fontana out , confirmed 100% ?

ralimadeira.com say that but i went see official site , and nothing about that.....you think that's possible anymore surprise in entrylist ?

Entries or withdrawals ?

finally another s.1600 a corsa s.1600

[Madeira]

thanks allready Fiorio

next week this time I shall have a nice Madeira view instaed of my computer :D
Now hope for good result for Loix and I will be very happy instead of happy :) :)

The ecological park is "hte place to be"???
Does anyone know some place in the rally like the finish of the stage in Aque de Serra???? With nice passages and a lovely atmosphere??
Thanks allready guys

Does anyone have the "recce" timing??? I can't find this on the site... :confused: not even stge maps from 2008 :(

Karlzoro:
For Recce timing Take a look here (pag 11):
http://www.fpak.pt/REG%20PROVAS%202008/RALI%20VINHO%20MADEIRA/REG%20RALLY%20VINHO%20MADEIRA%202008%20%28UK%29.pd f

"...The ecological park is "hte place to be"???"

The ecological park is nice to take some photos. This year they will pass there twice in first Leg for down and twice in the end of the second leg for up.
Well, If you want to move for a palce to another I think is better to choose other stage..specially on friday.
"...Does anyone know some place in the rally like the finish of the stage in Aque de Serra???? With nice passages and a lovely atmosphere??"

Maybe Santo da Serra, " Campo de Golfe stage and Referta stage"..for friday!

Saturday my advice is Rosário in the end of the stage, at least one run, the other you can move to Funchal e go to the the last one of the rally..." Chão da Lagoa"

[PuddleJumper]

Is there an official entry list yet?

[katxal]

Is there an official entry list yet?

tomorrow at 18,30 portuguese hour...

[karlzoro]

thanks Madeira

[Tom206wrc]

So can't wait for this evening and the official entrylist :D

[katxal]

So can't wait for this evening and the official entrylist :D

dont wait surprises...15 S.2000, 7 S.1600, 12 GR.N 4x4...and dont know the other 32 cars...probably saxo,C2...one spanish Fiesta St from Canary Islands...two diesel cars...

0 Car - Mex Machado - Porsche 911 GT3
000 Car - Markku Alen - Abarth 500

[Madeira]

dont wait surprises...15 S.2000, 7 S.1600, 12 GR.N 4x4...and dont know the other 32 cars...probably saxo,C2...one spanish Fiesta St from Canary Islands...two diesel cars...

0 Car - Mex Machado - Porsche 911 GT3
000 Car - Markku Alen - Abarth 500


No Katxal, 00 for Markku Alen and 000 Mitsubishi EVO... (?)

[Madeira]

No surprises in the entries. 61 drivers enroled on the list!

15- S2000

[Madeira]

Entry list:

http://www.madeira-rally.net/noticia.asp?id=42

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Madeira ;)

With or without surprise it will be a great event with lots of fight among the S2000 drivers anyway :p :

[katxal]

No Katxal, 00 for Markku Alen and 000 Mitsubishi EVO... (?)

it will be nice to see alen with the little 500 sideways! :D :D :D :D

[karlzoro]

Is the shakedown the same of last year???
Or what does this mean???

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1162&Itemid=1 :rolleyes:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Is the shakedown the same of last year???
Or what does this mean???

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1162&Itemid=1 :rolleyes:

Yes, shakedown is in the same place.

that article means that shakedown isn't mandatory...

[Tom206wrc]

When are pickems for Rali Vinho da Madeira available ?? :confused:

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I heard a strange rumour about Solowow...

I heard that is participation in Madeira still uncertain... some polish member know something about it?

[Madeira]

]I heard a strange rumour about Solowow...

I heard that is participation in Madeira still uncertain... some polish member know something about it?

No problem with Solowow he will be here.He only do not want miss the next round of polish championship. The boat with the cars will leave Madeira saturday night.

[Madeira]

well, according Rally Vinho Madeira website, Fiat Abarth is trying to replace Anton Alen by Umberto Scandola...They asked FIA about that and only FIA could give the agreement. Fiat claims Health troubles with Anton, but I guees the main trouble should lack of pace in tarmac for the finnish driver...

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Yes Madeira.. I think the problem is the pace of Alen in Madeira..

I've read in ralis.online.pt that Alen says.. that he was aiming to finish in Top 5... :s

After is pace in Barum last year, and Ypres this year... only in dream Alen could finish in a top 5 position :s mokin:

[HaCo]

Is there nowhere an extra Punto available for Scandola and they only think about it now? :)

[Madeira]

First pics from Algarve taken today where you can see the cars ready to start the trip into Madeira...

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_easygallery&act=categories&cid=140&Itemid=3

[teufel]

well, according Rally Vinho Madeira website, Fiat Abarth is trying to replace Anton Alen by Umberto Scandola...They asked FIA about that and only FIA could give the agreement. Fiat claims Health troubles with Anton, but I guees the main trouble should lack of pace in tarmac for the finnish driver...

I can't remember anything spectacular about him except his Ypres-swim... What result does he have with the Punto?

[Madeira]

and the cars and service cars arrived:

http://www.madeira-rally.net/noticia.asp?id=61

[[Madeira-Rally]]

I can't remember anything spectacular about him except his Ypres-swim... What result does he have with the Punto?

He had a fantastic race in Rally du Valais last year

[wwbroe]

It wasn't so fantastic, his race in Valais. He beated Loix for third place but he was never in the race for the overall win. Loix was driving a privatly entered Punto, while Scandola was running in an official Punto, entered by Abarth, so it is not that muich of an achiefment. I think if his results were so good last year, then why was he sacked by Fiat for this year's IRC-championship? I think Alen deserve's more changes to show his speed in tarmac rounds. He was quite fast in Barum last year during first day, untill he had to retire. ;)

[Madeira]

More pics!

Like the old gold days of rally...The rally has "started" for the rally fans
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_easygallery&act=categories&cid=143&Itemid=3

[Tom206wrc]

First pics from Algarve taken today where you can see the cars ready to start the trip into Madeira...

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_easygallery&act=categories&cid=140&Itemid=3


Thanks !!! :up:

[Mirek]

Scandola was strong in Valais and Sanremo as well last year. Anyway, he is Abarth test driver, as far as I know.

[Madeira]

More pics taken by Paulo, [Madeira-rally]:

http://www.madeira-rally.net/noticia.asp?id=64

[Madeira]

It's confirmed, Umberto Scandola will drive the second Fiat Punto Abarth S2000!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Lastest news about rally vinho Madeira :D

Our friend "Madeira" will be doing comments on official radio of the rally!

Congratulations Madeira!!!

[Madeira]

]Lastest news about rally vinho Madeira :D

Our friend "Madeira" will be doing comments on official radio of the rally!

Congratulations Madeira!!!

Thank you Paulo but I have a problem...I won't be on the road... :(

[[Madeira-Rally]]

don't worry... I will be there... :D

[Raven]

Madeira, maybe your radio has mobile studio? ;-)

[Madeira]

Madeira, maybe your radio has mobile studio? ;-)

yeah, in my car...maybe you will hear "radio commentator flees from the emission live"...

The shakedown will start in a few minutes. Maybe some teams won't be there. Peugeot Belgium has made a private test this morning, and Loix did a small hit and broken a wheel.
Pics: http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_easygallery&act=categories&cid=148&Itemid=3

Shakedown times:
http://www.ralivm.com/onlineResults/shakedown.cfm?displayYear=2008

[Madeira]

shakedown times:
http://rvm.netmadeira.com/index.php?prova=&t=0&p=-1&e=0&mode=7&view=0&oldmode=&l=PT

[c4]

Delete

[wwbroe]

Delete

What do you mean by this my friend? :D

[wwbroe]

shakedown times:
http://rvm.netmadeira.com/index.php?prova=&t=0&p=-1&e=0&mode=7&view=0&oldmode=&l=PT

Thanks Madeira for the info, will you keep us informed during the rally too, that would be great. ;)

[Madeira]

Thanks Madeira for the info, will you keep us informed during the rally too, that would be great. ;)

I´m not sure wwbroe, I will be on the radio...but I think Madeira-Rally (Paulo) will give you any details on:

http://www.rally-erc.com

Radio:
http://www.ralivm.com/gallery/audios.cfm
in this radio you can listen the interviews with the drivers specially in the service park

[quimrally]

Hi friends.
What a great shakedown. Sure it doens't count for anything but we have some nice stadings from the principal drivers.

For now, its beem exciting because the portuguese Bruno Magalhães has the best times, however Renato Travaglia is very close (0,2 seg).
The first 13 drivers are seperated by 5 seconds.

Basso is in 8ª, however he is experimenting some solutions in punto S2000.

PS: Unfortunately, my pc has the sound plates broken, so i can't hear the radio.

[c4]

What do you mean by this my friend? :D

A silly mistake I made about the shakedown :o

[Madeira]

Welcome to the forum quim!

[quimrally]

Welcome to the forum quim!

you're welcome.
This year I didn't get the suported help to be in Madeira (no money, no plane, no ship), so i'm going to stay in front of the pc or tv for the next 3 days.

[Madeira]

First pics from Shakedown:

http://www.ralivm.com/gallery/shakedown.cfm?displayYear=2008

From service park:
http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_easygallery&act=categories&cid=152&Itemid=3

[Madeira]

More Pics:

http://www.madeira-rally.net/galeria/fotos-shakedown08/

http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/rvmsd08/

http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/rvmpa08/

http://www.ralismadeira.com/index.php?option=com_easygallery&act=categories&cid=151&Itemid=3

[playmo]

Madeira: nice work keeping us informed !
will there be any super special stage live, i mean broadcasted through internet?
Saludos.

[Madeira]

Madeira: nice work keeping us informed !
will there be any super special stage live, i mean broadcasted through internet?
Saludos.

The Portuguese television RTP-N and RTP-M (http://www.rtp.pt) will show live the sss, tomorow evening, but I do not believe that they will give the images on the internet. Only for Portugal... you must try to search by satellite broadcast but I'm not sure...


In the morning, in the private test of Peugeot, the small off was made by Vouilloz and not by Loix. My excuses for the mistake...

[Madeira]

Video from Shakedown:
http://www.ralismadeira.com/Videos/ralismadeira-shakedownralivinhomadeira2008.wmv

[Raven]

To the author of above video - always deinterlace videos!!!

[HaCo]

Video from Shakedown:
http://www.ralismadeira.com/Videos/ralismadeira-shakedownralivinhomadeira2008.wmv

Who needs Eurosport? :D

[quimrally]

Hi.
In 2 hours the rally is about to start with the special stage in Funchal (named Avenida do Mar).

In the last hours there has been a great excitment expectating the rally.

LAST DEVELOPMENTS:
nº30 - Rui Pinto had some problems in the verifications. It seemes that the legal documents of the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, weren't that legal. The officials advised that wanted to see the original documents as soon as possible. Meanwhile he can do the first stage, but with warning.

In the Verifications Marco Cavigioli has taken some company... Excellence Company, as you can seen on the first photos:
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/fotosrvmv08/

Finally, the safety car (0 Car) driven by the portuguese driver MEX, was presented. A beautiful PORSCHE 911 GT3:
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/rvmmexp08/

See you later for further information, opinions or just developments.

[wwbroe]

Hi.
In 2 hours the rally is about to start with the special stage in Funchal (named Avenida do Mar).

In the last hours there has been a great excitment expectating the rally.

LAST DEVELOPMENTS:
nº30 - Rui Pinto had some problems in the verifications. It seemes that the legal documents of the Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX, weren't that legal. The officials advised that wanted to see the original documents as soon as possible. Meanwhile he can do the first stage, but with warning.

In the Verifications Marco Cavigioli has taken some company... Excellence Company, as you can seen on the first photos:
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/fotosrvmv08/

Finally, the safety car (0 Car) driven by the portuguese driver MEX, was presented. A beautiful PORSCHE 911 GT3:
http://www.fotosralis.online.pt/rvmmexp08/

See you later for further information, opinions or just developments.

Great that you keep us informed. Nice company for Caviglioli indeed, and really nice looking Porsche as zero-car. Can't wait for start of rally. Half an hour to go now. Thanks again for the info. :D

[wwbroe]

Can you follow the super SS somewhere live? Or just have to wait untill it comes on resultsite? :D

[wwbroe]

It seems like super special stage is run in reverse order. So we have to wait a little while before we have fastest cars trough. :D

[JRodrigues]

Can you follow the super SS somewhere live? Or just have to wait untill it comes on resultsite? :D

It's live on RTPN and RTPMadeira, national tv's :\

[wwbroe]

It's live on RTPN and RTPMadeira, national tv's :\

Ok, thanks for the info, but i guess i can't take those channels here in Belgium. ;)

[wwbroe]

Fastest time for Pascoal so far, just a little faster as Camacho. About 13 cars to go. ;)

[wwbroe]

New fastest man on SSS is Brice Tiribassi in his BSA Peugeot S2000, ten cars left now. :)