Norf 2008

[DonJippo]

So who is coming? Do we have forum dinner in Jämsänkoski on Saturday evening or a boat cruise on lake Päijänne? :p

[Tomi]

boat cruise if the weather is ok, and dinner in Jämsänkoski sounds good too.

[Viktory]

Hoping to make it this year again. Really hope the weather will be good, since I'll be bringing the tent again in that case.

[dyfi1]

Cabin booked, ferry booked... I`ll be there :-))

[J4MIE]

Don't think I can make it this year but will try, let me know the accommodation arrangements DJ ;) Food at Jämsänkoski is always good :D :up:

[DonJippo]

Don't think I can make it this year but will try, let me know the accommodation arrangements DJ ;) Food at Jämsänkoski is always good :D :up:

Two lake side cabins booked for whole week, good for 10 people plus few extra ones if needed. Cabins well equipped also boat in use for those who want to go for fishing or just to relax on the lake :)

Half an hour / 40 mins drive to Jämsä and Jyväskylä and most of the stages within less than hour of driving ;)

[pino]

I will only miss the great dinner on that boat though :p :

[A.F.F.]

I'm in danger to miss the rally this year :mark:

It's sounds good by watching rally with some nice french fries. i like that

[pino]

I will only miss the great dinner on that boat though :p :

...and because I don't want to miss that dinner, I've changed my mind and booked my flights today :p :

[Halvis]

I actually have a chance of going this year, for the first time. Don't know if I dare, though - after all the Henning Solberg-feuds I've had with several members of the FRM. :)

[PuddleJumper]

My flights are booked. :D

A repeat of last years dinner arrangements would do me fine. :up:

Look forward to meeting new poeple as well as seeing long-time friends. :)

[Tomi]

Well done guys, good to see that there is still some sence in Pino too.

[gloomyDAY]

I'm in danger to miss the rally this year :mark: Is it because of the newborn?

Edit: Oh ****! That's DJ. HAHA!!

[pino]

Well done guys, good to see that there is still some sence in Pino too.

Now show me your sence and...come and pick me up at the airport in Helsinki :p :

[Tomi]

Now show me your sence and...come and pick me up at the airport in Helsinki :p :
It depends on what day you are coming :)

[A.F.F.]

Is it because of the newborn?

Edit: Oh ****! That's DJ. HAHA!!

True rallyfans won't mis the rally due lesser reasons like birth of a child :D

[pino]

It depends on what day you are coming :)

Wednesday at 11:25 :) btw I need a ride on my way back to airport on Sunday too :p :

[Tomi]

Wednesday at 11:25 :)

many days too late, but i can pick you up from the bus stop somewhere near the houses. I can drive ou back, thats ok.

[Brother John]

This time I want to travel by plain. I must still book my flight!
What is the best time (and day) to arrive in Helsinki to have a ride with one of you my rally friends?
I don´t want to miss the forum dinner in Jämsänkoski or a boat cruise. ;)

[pino]

many days too late, but i can pick you up from the bus stop somewhere near the houses. I can drive ou back, thats ok.

Thanks Tomi :up: I will get to Jyvaskyla by train/bus then :)

[Tomi]

This time I want to travel by plain. I must still book my flight!
What is the best time (and day) to arrive in Helsinki to have a ride with one of you my rally friends?
I don´t want to miss the forum dinner in Jämsänkoski or a boat cruise. ;)

Try sunday morning, i can pick you up. Is mrs BJ coming too, or is it just you and Jack?

[Brother John]

Try sunday morning, i can pick you up. Is mrs BJ coming too, or is it just you and Jack?

Sunday morrow is too early, I still have artisten on a festival in Sweden that weekend.
Maybe I will try to meet Pino on the airport in Helsinki and travel together with him to Jyväskylä or somewhere near the cabins.
This year only me and Jack will come to Finland Tomi. ;)

[pino]

That sounds great BJ :up:

[Tomi]

ok, thats fine

[Brother John]

Nice to meet you all again boys. Thanks for the great companionship. :)

[Tomi]

yep, im sure it will be a good time again.

[Brother John]

@Pino, I just send you a PM my friend with some questions.
We need to contact also Tomi and DJ i think. ;)

[A.F.F.]

I just securred my rally and booked my usual room. :) Anyone of you losers need a ride via Helsinki to Jyväskylä area (Jämsä or Korpilahti preferred), I'm driving there early friday morning. (with early I mean 2.-3.am)

[Woodeye]

I'll be there as usual. I think it's now 23 years in a row. :)

[Timole]

I´ll be there on thursday morning hopefully to see the shakedown aso. Still some planning to do.

[jiipee64]

since 1975
and again...

[Brother John]

I just securred my rally and booked my usual room. :) Anyone of you losers need a ride via Helsinki to Jyväskylä area (Jämsä or Korpilahti preferred), I'm driving there early friday morning. (with early I mean 2.-3.am)

Thanks for the offer A.F.F. but that´s to late.
Me and Pino need a drive from Helsinki to Jyväskyla area. We will be there at
the airport on Wednesday, before 12.00 hour at noon!

:?: Is there maybe someone else , who can pick us up?

[pino]

I just securred my rally and booked my usual room. :) Anyone of you losers need a ride via Helsinki to Jyväskylä area (Jämsä or Korpilahti preferred), I'm driving there early friday morning. (with early I mean 2.-3.am)

Great news mate :up: wish you could leave on wednesday so BJ and myself could drive with you to Jyvaskyla :p :

[DonJippo]

:?: Is there maybe someone else , who can pick us up?

Sure, call these guys http://www.yellowline.fi/ they are happy to pick you up and drive to Jyväskylä.

:p :

[J4MIE]

I definitely won't be there this year :down:

[Tomi]

I definitely won't be there this year :down:
Dont be so sure :)

[J4MIE]

Dont be so sure :)

But I am 100% sure though that I won't be there.. I am looking forward to meeting everybody in Norway though :D

[janneppi]

After much mulling over do I have job after April and when do I keep my vacation days I managed to get both right and will make it. :)

Sorry DJ for not getting back to you when I got things sorted out, I was lazy. :(

[pantealex]

1000lakes number 34 for me! (born in Ouninpohja)
There are some entries in http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/entries/

[DonJippo]

There are some entries in http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/entries/

Mr De Sanctis on the list :) How many times has he been in NORF anyone know? More than 20?

[pantealex]

Mr De Sanctis on the list :) How many times has he been in NORF anyone know? More than 20?
There was written 21st time (or years) in his car, but Juwra.com says 19...
edit.http://ralliradio.yle.fi/node/995 20years in 2005...
edit2.http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=profile&driverid=1842 rallybase says this is his 23time (22 driving, he was co-driver once)

[MYCROFT4]

Me too...This will be nine times now. Staying in Laajavuori as usual. Shakedow outside my bedroom window. You can't get better than that.

[Christina]

i sorely wish i could be there, but unless i win lotto or someone invents an inexpensive form of travel between australia and finland i shall unfortunately not be there. :(

[Tomi]

i sorely wish i could be there, but unless i win lotto or someone invents an inexpensive form of travel between australia and finland i shall unfortunately not be there. :(

If you start walking now, you are here in time :)

[Christina]

If you start walking now, you are here in time :)

honey, i'm not jesus. i cant walk on water!

[DonJippo]

Entries updated Travis also on the entry list http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-06-17T14-25-49253.pdf

[DonJippo]

honey, i'm not jesus. i cant walk on water!

Looks like Tomi was quite serious about this as he has taken a flight to Bangkok to meet you in halfway :p

[Daniel]

Entries updated Travis also on the entry list http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-06-17T14-25-49253.pdf
[DanielC4Wrc Mode]Where are the Citroen's on that entry list?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Why are there no Citroens!!!!!! Oh nooooooooooooooooooooo![/DanielC4Wrc mode]

[Zes]

[DanielC4Wrc Mode]Where are the Citroen's on that entry list?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! Why are there no Citroens!!!!!! Oh nooooooooooooooooooooo![/DanielC4Wrc mode]

Haven't you heard? Citroen is playing tactics by skipping NORF this year. This way Mikko has to sweep all the remaining rallies for them :D

[Daniel]

Haven't you heard? Citroen is playing tactics by skipping NORF this year. This way Mikko has to sweep all the remaining rallies for them :D
:laugh:

[pantealex]

http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-06-18T16-03-35253.pdf 18.6 situation
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/entries/ easy way to see if there is update availeble

[Daniel]

http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-06-18T16-03-35253.pdf 18.6 situation
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/entries/ easy way to see if there is update availeble
Still no Citroens! Argh we're all going to die! :p

[pantealex]

Still no Citroens! Argh we're all going to die! :p
No Suzukis either and only one Subaru :)

[jbmarcus21]

I'm happy because just one month to wait now, to see Finland Rally !

Just a sad thing, Marcus do not participate finally.. Hope drive on opener driver like Portugal IRC ?

Wish you all spectators a great NORF !

[ProRally]

Entries updated Travis also on the entry list http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-06-17T14-25-49253.pdf

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[DonJippo]

Never going to happen as it is same weekend as X Games 14

He is not anymore on the NORF entries list.

[Tomi]

Never going to happen as it is same weekend as X Games 14

Yes, better stick to skateboarding :)

[PMM]

I'll be there too! ;)

20th time in a row... I suppose?

[rdr]

more Fins... http://www.mattirantanen.net/news.php

[Roy]

more Fins... http://www.mattirantanen.net/news.php

... with a Ramsport Focus Great! :D :bounce:

[A.F.F.]

Great news :up:

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Mati Rantanen, Focus WRC06,
Jouni Arolainen Focus WRC,
Jukka Hiltunen (focus WRC03)

great news for lovers of private WRC's ...(like me)...

[Tomi]

Will be interesting to see Rantanen drive the Focus, my guess is that he will be about on same pace as Aava.

[CABAIO E'LONA]

The car that will be driven by Jukka Hiltunen (Ford Focus WRC03) is the ex-Jari Viita, and which was used by Hirvonen and Latvala in 2006?....

[CABAIO E'LONA]

The car that will be driven by Jukka Hiltunen (Ford Focus WRC03) is the ex-Jari Viita, and which was used by Hirvonen and Latvala in 2006?....

in 2005, sorry...

[DonJippo]

The car that will be driven by Jukka Hiltunen (Ford Focus WRC03) is the ex-Jari Viita, and which was used by Hirvonen and Latvala in 2006?....

No, it is former test car which was sold to Ioánnis Papadimitríou 2004 and last year Hiltunen bought it from him.

[COD]

Will be interesting to see Rantanen drive the Focus, my guess is that he will be about on same pace as Aava.

If he drives the same speed as Aava on his first WRC-car rally, he has done a hell of a job. I hope he does well, but it will not be easy

[CABAIO E'LONA]

No, it is former test car which was sold to Ioánnis Papadimitríou 2004 and last year Hiltunen bought it from him.

thanks DonJippo...
is this car ... (nice livery :) )

http://reissumies.kuvat.fi/kuvat/ralli/2008/05.SmPeurunkaralli2008/SPA51185.JPG/medium

earlier, when it belonged to Ioánnis Papadimitríou, had this livery....

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/globe/rally/paradise/pics/2005/mikkeli/frc05r3_5047_papadimitriou.jpg

[Nikey]

In total, 109 entries (http://ralli.net/rnet/index.php?op=NEArticle&sid=3234)

[Helstar]

http://www.rallylink.it/caneva/caneva_opinione_080623.htm

Vittorio Caneva on the entry list with a Mitsu Gr.N (Evo7 lol) O_o

I can't believe it... my old hero is back !

[pantealex]

In total, 109 entries (http://ralli.net/rnet/index.php?op=NEArticle&sid=3234)
same in english http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/19218.html
summa summarum:
109 total
22 WRC
18 PWRC (wild cards to Juha Salo and Jussi Välimäki with Evo9)
17 JWRC (wild card to Kalle Pinomäki Swift S1600)
+others like championship leaders Aigner and Ogier!

[Mixa]

yeah it looks to be a good rally. With PCWRC and JWRC aswell including some nice private entries(specially Wilks with Civic). What comes to Ogier he aint scoring points from here despite beeing in entry list as this is hes skipped event so hes training for the future. Will be intresting to see anyway how he goes with the C2R2 :D

and yes Ill be there as always...

[pantealex]

Aigner and Sousa are also in just for training, not for points.

[pino]

http://www.rallylink.it/caneva/caneva_opinione_080623.htm

Vittorio Caneva on the entry list with a Mitsu Gr.N (Evo7 lol) O_o

I can't believe it... my old hero is back !

Great news, can't wait to see him "live" in action :D

[dumb]

I hope Deivydas Jocius finaly gonna run somewhere.Neste rally is most popular between Lithuanian crews.So I think Jocius will be there.No,I hope.

[BG5WRC]

My first rally of Finland, I look forward to meeting you all !! :) Flying to Helsinki on the 29th arriving at 23:00! it will be a long early morning bus trip to Jyvaskyla on wednesday, but I cant wait.

[Tom206wrc]

1000lakes number 34 for me! (born in Ouninpohja)
There are some entries in http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/entries/



No Patrik Sandell yet :confused:

[Brother John]

No Patrik Sandell yet :confused:


Received entries (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html)
41 Patrik Sandell Emil Axelsson S S Interspeed Racing Team Renault Clio S1600 A 6 3

[Brother John]

Rantanen will ride a Focus 06
It look like this.

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/n/d/2008/06/30/rantanen-setzt-auf-ramsport/index.htmlhttp://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/n/d/2008/06/30/rantanen-setzt-auf-ramsport/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2F378rantanen.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20bgColor%3D%22%23ffffff%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B% 22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=47643f449d8828a439988ada14394c4f

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the info BJ ;)


Edit I was looking for an S2000 for Sandell, not an S1600 :mark:

[Finni]

I am not actually very excited about Rantanen's chance with Focus. There would be numerous drivers with better chances to deliver with that car. For instance Hänninen would be exciting in that place.

[Roy]

Rantanen will ride a Focus 06
It look like this.
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/n/d/2008/06/30/rantanen-setzt-auf-ramsport/index.htmlhttp://www.rallye-magazin.de/r/wm/d/n/d/2008/06/30/rantanen-setzt-auf-ramsport/index.php?eID=tx_cms_showpic&file=uploads%2Fpics%2F378rantanen.jpg&width=800m&height=600m&bodyTag=%3Cbody%20bgColor%3D%22%23ffffff%22%3E&wrap=%3Ca%20href%3D%22javascript%3Aclose%28%29%3B% 22%3E%20%7C%20%3C%2Fa%3E&md5=47643f449d8828a439988ada14394c4f

Do you read the whole thread? see page 3. But thanks for German text ;)


I am not actually very excited about Rantanen's chance with Focus. There would be numerous drivers with better chances to deliver with that car. For instance Hänninen would be exciting in that place.

Well maybe he is better, but he didn't make that deal. Rantanen was very clever. He make an appointment with M-Sport and Ramsport. Why did Hänninen make that deal?

[Zes]

By the way, Ramsport is selling one of their 06 Focuses. Car will be available in the end of July, so there is a chance for someone...

[MikeD]

By the way, Ramsport is selling one of their 06 Focuses. Car will be available in the end of July, so there is a chance for someone...

That sounds like the end of the plan for Ramsport becomming an M2 team in 2009.

[MikeD]

Well maybe he is better, but he didn't make that deal. Rantanen was very clever. He make an appointment with M-Sport and Ramsport. Why did Hänninen make that deal?

I think Rantanen has some strong sponsorships backing him ... I don't think that's the case with Hänninen.

[DonJippo]

I think Rantanen has some strong sponsorships backing him ... I don't think that's the case with Hänninen.

Hänninen has strong backing but he is driving in PWRC this year and NORF is a PWRC event so why would he drive WRC there?

[Viking]

That sounds like the end of the plan for Ramsport becomming an M2 team in 2009.

To me it sounds more like the start of a plan to buy something new.
If they will run a M2 team they should soon have to put an order in for a fleet of 08 spec cars. The problem is who will finance the second car? I guess everybody wants Henning if he get a new Expert deal (Stobart, Adapta/Østberg and Ramsport).

[MikeD]

Hänninen has strong backing but he is driving in PWRC this year and NORF is a PWRC event so why would he drive WRC there?

Ok, point taken :)

I was just thinking about his outings with the rented Mitsu from RRE Sports and the sponsorless red Mitsu from Ralliart, so I assumed that he didn't have the kind of money/sponsors that Rantanen has.

[MikeD]

To me it sounds more like the start of a plan to buy something new.
If they will run a M2 team they should soon have to put an order in for a fleet of 08 spec cars. The problem is who will finance the second car? I guess everybody wants Henning if he get a new Expert deal (Stobart, Adapta/Østberg and Ramsport).

From what I know, Ramsport thought they had some deal with Gareth Jones (for 4 events) and possible Manfred Stohl for 1-2 events. But in the end they feared they would end up in the same situation as Kronos last year, so the M2 plans were dropped.

But I still think that Van Merkstejn is planning an M2 entry next year with 2 Ford Focus's. Does anybody have any news regarding that?

[DonJippo]

I was just thinking about his outings with the rented Mitsu from RRE Sports and the sponsorless red Mitsu from Ralliart, so I assumed that he didn't have the kind of money/sponsors that Rantanen has.

I don't know which one has the most sponsors/money but Hänninen has RRE Sports as one of his sponsors/partners so that might explain his outings with "rented" RRE Mitsu ;) More about Juho and his sponsors over here http://www.juhohanninen.com/

[DonJippo]

By the way, Ramsport is selling one of their 06 Focuses. Car will be available in the end of July, so there is a chance for someone...

And now you tell this, just days after I bought myself a new car :mad:

;)

[OldF]

The Italian Motor Club team will run five cars in NORF 2008.

N14: Teemu Arminen, Jari Ketomaa and Naren Kumar
N12: Jussi Tiippana
EVO 9: Fabio Frisiero

More info: http://mag.gpweek.com/ , page 16

[garais22]

Can You help me?

I try to open Stage Maps (http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-07-02T11-24-14253.pdf)in this page http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/en/competitors/ , but the system says, that I need to put password, but all other documents I open with out passwords....

Where is the problem?

Thanks

[OldF]

They (stage maps) are probably only for the competitors. I tried also to open the stage maps from the “Media” link (Press Releases / Rally Guide 2 published) but same problem. The route can be found from these links (Day 1 is missing?).

Day 2: http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-02-28T19-31-08175.pdf

Day 3: http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-02-28T19-32-59175.pdf

If you are planning to come and watch the rally, I think the only way to get some more information about the stages, is to buy the NORF issue of the Finnish motor sport magazine “Vauhdin Maailma”. There is also a brief explanation of the stages in English.

[Tom206wrc]

Received entries (http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/main.html)
41 Patrik Sandell Emil Axelsson S S Interspeed Racing Team Renault Clio S1600 A 6 3



Why having chosen JWRC whereas he's better placed in the PWRC(2nd ex-aequo, and only 9th in Jwrc) :confused:

[Viking]

Why having chosen JWRC whereas he's better placed in the PWRC(2nd ex-aequo, and only 9th in Jwrc) :confused:

"Applications to compete in the Championship must be submitted to the FIA no later than 15 December of the year preceding the year of the Championship.
At the time of application, the entrant must nominate 6 rallies in the Championship in which he/she will participate."

[pantealex]

Also Prokop is JWRC in NORF, not PWRC
Same decision than Sandell.

[Tom206wrc]

OK I understand better :mark:

[dumb]

Stupid thing.PWRC and JWRC in one rally.Why PWRC hasn't no rally on tarmac,but in Finland we have both championships.Something very and very stinks in FIA. Again.

[PMM]

NORF '08 entries:
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-07-04T07-53-28253.pdf

[pantealex]

Stupid thing.PWRC and JWRC in one rally.Why PWRC hasn't no rally on tarmac,but in Finland we have both championships.Something very and very stinks in FIA. Again.

I think it is very good to have them JWRC and PWRC bouth here in Finland!
Next year this will hapen 4-times
For tarmac I agree with you, PWRC should drive also in tarmac!

2009 P-WRC Calendar
15 February Norway
15 March Cyprus (also JWRC)
5 April Portugal (also JWRC)
26 April Argentina (also JWRC)
24 May Italy-Sardinia (also JWRC)
14 June Greece
6 September Australia
25 October GB

2009 J-WRC Calendar
1 February Ireland
15 March Cyprus (also PWRC)
5 April Portugal (also PWRC)
26 April Argentina (also PWRC)
24 May Italy-Sardinia (also PWRC)
28 June Poland
2 August Finland
4 October Spain

[Viking]

I think it is very good to have them JWRC and PWRC bouth here in Finland!
Next year this will hapen 4-times
For tarmac I agree with you, PWRC should drive also in tarmac!

2009 P-WRC Calendar
15 February Norway
15 March Cyprus (also JWRC)
5 April Portugal (also JWRC)
26 April Argentina (also JWRC)
24 May Italy-Sardinia (also JWRC)
14 June Greece
6 September Australia
25 October GB

2009 J-WRC Calendar
1 February Ireland
15 March Cyprus (also PWRC)
5 April Portugal (also PWRC)
26 April Argentina (also PWRC)
24 May Italy-Sardinia (also PWRC)
28 June Poland
2 August Finland
4 October Spain


So next year you can not run both championships like Sandell and Prokop this year? :mad:

[DonJippo]

So next year you can not run both championships like Sandell and Prokop this year? :mad: ♠

How many events they need to run per Championship? If it is six or less then one can run both I think.

[Roy]

You can run both Championships, I think. But it will not be enough to win that Championship. The Championships exists by all rallies and drivers have to skip minimal one of them.

[pantealex]

2008 there is 8 PWRC events, drivers mus skip 2 = 6 rallies/driver or team
2008 there is 7 JWRC events, drivers must skip 1 = 6 rallies/driver or team
that is 12 rallies if you drive both series like Sandell and Prokop.
in
2009 there is 8 PWRC events, how many you can drive?
2009 there is 8 JWRC events, how many you can drive?
if rule is same than 2008 (6 rallies/serie) you can drive both series! (and race in every WRC event!)

[Roy]

2008 there is 8 PWRC events, drivers mus skip 2 = 6 rallies/driver or team
2008 there is 7 JWRC events, drivers must skip 1 = 6 rallies/driver or team
that is 12 rallies if you drive both series like Sandell and Prokop.
in
2009 there is 8 PWRC events, how many you can drive?
2009 there is 8 JWRC events, how many you can drive?
if rule is same than 2008 (6 rallies/serie) you can drive both series! (and race in every WRC event!)

oke! :up:

[pantealex]

Entrylist in seeded order from FIA
http://www.nesteoilrallyfinland.fi/attachements/2008-07-11T13-12-10253.pdf
That is fridays running order (SS2-SS10)
SSS1 and SSS11 in Killeri they will run with interesting pairs, not in this order!

[wwbroe]

Great entrylist, especially for PWRC and JWRC. Looking forward to a very interesting battle (i guess there will be great battle in both categories). I think it will be closer battle in PWRC and JWRC than in major categorie of WRC. Anyhow, it looks that it is going to be a great rally again. :D

[Wim_Impreza]

Thierry Neuville, young Belgian driver in Ford Fiesta ST #102, won't start the rally as he hasn't enough budget.

[lprodrigues]

@wwbroe

with battle or not WRC its always a joy

Bernardo Sousa FTW!!! :)

http://dailymotorsport.com/16/neste-oil-rally-finland-2008-preview/

[Tomi]

@wwbroe

with battle or not WRC its always a joy

Bernardo Sousa FTW!!! :)

http://dailymotorsport.com/16/neste-oil-rally-finland-2008-preview/

Thanks, good idea to brodcasting 3 stages live and not only the sss

[dyfi1]

So who is coming? Do we have forum dinner in Jämsänkoski on Saturday evening or a boat cruise on lake Päijänne? :p

What`s it to be, cruise or restaurant? I`m happy to do both! However I wont have internet access at my mökki and I leave UK for Jyväskylä in 4 days time :up: I was wondering if anyone had decided definately where forum dinner is to be?

terveisin/ regards

Mel.

[Tomi]

What`s it to be, cruise or restaurant? I`m happy to do both! However I wont have internet access at my mökki and I leave UK for Jyväskylä in 4 days time :up: I was wondering if anyone had decided definately where forum dinner is to be?

terveisin/ regards

Mel.

Both propably, i will PM you my phone number and other info.

[DonJippo]

Long term weather forecast promises pretty nice weather, hopefully this forecast is accurate http://www.accuweather.com/world-forecast-15day.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&locCode=EUR|FI|FI005|JYVASKYLA&metric=1 (http://www.accuweather.com/world-forecast-15day.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&locCode=EUR%7CFI%7CFI005%7CJYVASKYLA&metric=1)

[jparker]

Does anyone knows why Anton Alen is not in the entry list?

[Tomi]

Does anyone knows why Anton Alen is not in the entry list?

he is driving somewhere else at the same time

[dyfi1]

Both propably, i will PM you my phone number and other info.
Thanks for good info. I telephone you Monday 28th. My mökki at Koskenpää.

[Tomi]

Thanks for good info. I telephone you Monday 28th. My mökki at Koskenpää.

is it at rantapirtti?

[Brother John]

Both propably, i will PM you my phone number and other info.

Me and Pino go where you go. ;) :p : :s mokin:

[pino]

Me and Pino go where you go. ;) :p : :s mokin:

...and janneppi too, he's our driver :p :

[Tomi]

...and janneppi too, he's our driver :p :

Looks that you forgot Saarinen from your signature, now somebody can mix him with someone else. ;)

[dyfi1]

is it at rantapirtti?

Heh, no, but I visit there frequently during rally time. It`s a rally fans sanctuary ;) . I have pm`d you with more info also.

[Tomi]

To everyone who is interested, the dinner cruise will be on thursday evening, the boat is leaving from Jämsä harbour 19.00.
The dinner is at Vanha Mylly in Jämsänkoski on saturday around 20.00.

[A.F.F.]

My first message via telephone to forum .. it's SLOWWWWW.

Anyone needing a ride back to helsinki at sunday after the rally, there's a seat available :)

[pino]

My first message via telephone to forum .. it's SLOWWWWW.

Anyone needing a ride back to helsinki at sunday after the rally, there's a seat available :)

Can I book a seat...just in case Tomi drinks all the beer he buys :p :

[Tomi]

Can I book a seat...just in case Tomi drinks all the beer he buys :p :

I think you mean, you buy :)

[pino]

I think you mean, you buy :)

No I meant Don Jippo buys :p :

[Magnus]

When I grow up I will also visit NORF :(
Hope you´ll have a great time!
I will probably spend my time in the bottom of some boat... The only comfort is that I can drown my sorrows not only in a litre or two of diesel, but in some beer aswell ;) guess the latter is preferable

[Tomi]

When I grow up I will also visit NORF :(
Hope you´ll have a great time!
I will probably spend my time in the bottom of some boat... The only comfort is that I can drown my sorrows not only in a litre or two of diesel, but in some beer aswell ;) guess the latter is preferable

Its not too late yet, and you have more than a week to grow up :)

[pino]

I think you mean, you buy :)

By looking at your pickems (Galli 3rd) :eek: looks like you've already bought some :p :

[Tomi]

By looking at your pickems (Galli 3rd) :eek: looks like you've already bought some :p :

Do you think so? In the test it looked that the Citroen did have problem with the suspension, if they havent solved that, then maybe Galli has his chance.
it can be imagination too, because there was nothing what to compaire too, but it looked that the car was a bit too much in the air.

[DonJippo]

No I meant Don Jippo buys :p :

I don't need to buy anything, it was you who lost the bet :s mokin:

[DonJippo]

When I grow up I will also visit NORF :(
Hope you´ll have a great time!
I will probably spend my time in the bottom of some boat... The only comfort is that I can drown my sorrows not only in a litre or two of diesel, but in some beer aswell ;) guess the latter is preferable

In case you do grow up, still two places left in our accomodation for this year's NORF :)

[pino]

Do you think so? In the test it looked that the Citroen did have problem with the suspension, if they havent solved that, then maybe Galli has his chance.
it can be imagination too, because there was nothing what to compaire too, but it looked that the car was a bit too much in the air.

I tought Galli was the last one in your book, nice to see you finally have seen the light :p :

Don, we are not talking about dinners :hmph:

[DonJippo]

Don, we are not talking about dinners :hmph:

Pino, seems we have a bit different understanding what a dinner includes... ;)

[Tomi]

I tought Galli was the last one in your book, nice to see you finally have seen the light :p :

Don, we are not talking about dinners :hmph:

Nowdays he drive with the head too, and understand what his job is.

[bluuford]

I just love statistics:-) So, I found quite funny fact about NORF.
Grönholm was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career (I do not count those times that were before the first top 8 in NORF - the same for the following drivers) then he retired in 2003 and Märtin won
Sainz was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then retired on his sixth attempt.
Kenneth Erikson was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then retired on his sixth attempt.
Jarmo Kytolehto was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then was 16th on his sixth attempt.
Märtin was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then retired from the sport.

The only man who has braked that rule was Timo Salonen who retired on his 12th attempt :-)

Who has sixth year in a row to collect points this year? Can he succeed? Yes of course it is Loeb :-) So, can he break that impossible 6 in a row rule :-)

[bluuford]

I just love statistics:-) So, I found quite funny fact about NORF.
Grönholm was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career (I do not count those times that were before the first top 8 in NORF - the same for the following drivers) then he retired in 2003 and Märtin won
Sainz was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then retired on his sixth attempt.
Kenneth Erikson was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then retired on his sixth attempt.
Jarmo Kytolehto was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then was 16th on his sixth attempt.
Märtin was in top 8 five times in a row at the beginning of his career and then retired from the sport.

The only man who has braked that rule was Timo Salonen who retired on his 12th attempt :-)

Who has sixth year in a row to collect points this year? Can he succeed? Yes of course it is Loeb :-) So, can he break that impossible 6 in a row rule :-)

[OldF]

Yes, we managed to get an accommodation for the rally weekend. My two friends and me in a two-person shed. GREAT! OK, the good thing about it is that it’s only about 7 km away from the Ruuhimäki’s triple jumps (spectator area A).

[jbmarcus21]

Hi all .. I fly away this sunday for NORF !! Very exiting !!!!

But you know which time run shakedown thrusday please ?

Thanks a lot

[DonJippo]

Hi all .. I fly away this sunday for NORF !! Very exiting !!!!

But you know which time run shakedown thrusday please ?

Thanks a lot

Local time 8am, as always.

[janneppi]

...and janneppi too, he's our driver :p :
And with the current fuel prices, you and BJ will be ones who push the car. :D

[Brother John]

And with the current fuel prices, you and BJ will be ones who push the car. :D

No problem, you still must pay me 1000 000 EURO ! ;) Then I pay the petrol next weekend. :p : :cool:

[Daniel]

And with the current fuel prices, you and BJ will be ones who push the car. :D

I know someone who needs a co-driver ;)

[Juha]

No problem, you still must pay me 1000 000 EURO ! ;) Then I pay the petrol next weekend. :p : :cool:

You can come with us, no pushing involved. Janneppi can go on foot :D

[Tomi]

only 1 night to sleep, then heading toward Jyväskylä, wroom, wroom.

P.S. To the finnish guys,YLE radio send on tuesday after the 6 clock news a program called "rally evening" usually its very informative. Mikko and JM is in the studio too.

[fastboy]

Can you local boys tell me if it is possible to watch the top 10 through stage 12 and then make it to stage 14? Thanks

[Halvis]

Hi guys, I'm thinking very hard on going this year, but is late in planning and have not made any arrangements for anything, and is also on my own - which sounds kind of boring. My question is therefore simple, is there anyone of the forumers that has a vacant bed somewhere, I'm thinking thursday-sunday? I will of course cover my share of the cost.

I'm aware that this is very late to ask, but still...

One more question, what's the easiest way of getting to/from Jyvaskela-Helsinki? If I go, I'll fly in to Helsinki. Is there train, bus or is it car rental?

Hope someone knows..

[OldF]

Can you local boys tell me if it is possible to watch the top 10 through stage 12 and then make it to stage 14? Thanks

Only 1:21 between first cars on stage, IMO not enough time. I don’t know if you have been in NORF before but you have to take into account the driving between the stages, walking from the parking to the stage. If the parking is on the wayside, you maybe have to walk for several km. The worst case I’ve experienced was about 5 km of walking to stage and back. It was a nice start of the day.

For example my friends and me are planning to go and watch stage 3 and 6 (Mökkiperä), first car on the second run at 12:43. The next stage we are planning to watch is stage 10 (Jukojärvi), first car at 17:29.

IMO to be on safe side, you should have about 2-3 hours between when you leave the previous stage and the first car on the next stage. Are there any other opinions?

[OldF]

Hi guys, I'm thinking very hard on going this year, but is late in planning and have not made any arrangements for anything, and is also on my own - which sounds kind of boring. My question is therefore simple, is there anyone of the forumers that has a vacant bed somewhere, I'm thinking thursday-sunday? I will of course cover my share of the cost.

I'm aware that this is very late to ask, but still...

One more question, what's the easiest way of getting to/from Jyvaskela-Helsinki? If I go, I'll fly in to Helsinki. Is there train, bus or is it car rental?

Hope someone knows..

Have a look at this link.

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127217&page=7 (DonJippo / 20th Jul 08, 19:27)


Car rental would be the easiest way to move around.

By flight, Finnair: http://www.finnair.fi/finnaircom/wps/portal/finnair/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKL94538QXJgFk--pGoIs6eqCIu8c7ecBFfj_zcVP0gfW_9AP2C3NDQiHJHRQDk3hE o/delta/base64xml/L0lKWWttUSEhL3dITUFDc0FFVUFOby80SUVhREFBIS9lbl9GSQ !!?setlocale=en_FI (http://www.finnair.fi/finnaircom/wps/portal/finnair/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKL94538QXJgFk--pGoIs6eqCIu8c7ecBFfj_zcVP0gfW_9AP2C3NDQiHJHRQDk3hE o/delta/base64xml/L0lKWWttUSEhL3dITUFDc0FFVUFOby80SUVhREFBIS9lbl9GSQ %21%21?setlocale=en_FI)

Bus: http://www.matkahuolto.info/lippu/en/

Train: http://www.vr.fi/heo/eng/index.html

[Halvis]

Have a look at this link.

http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127217&page=7 (DonJippo / 20th Jul 08, 19:27)


Car rental would be the easiest way to move around.

By flight, Finnair: http://www.finnair.fi/finnaircom/wps/portal/finnair/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKL94538QXJgFk--pGoIs6eqCIu8c7ecBFfj_zcVP0gfW_9AP2C3NDQiHJHRQDk3hE o/delta/base64xml/L0lKWWttUSEhL3dITUFDc0FFVUFOby80SUVhREFBIS9lbl9GSQ !!?setlocale=en_FI (http://www.finnair.fi/finnaircom/wps/portal/finnair/kcxml/04_Sj9SPykssy0xPLMnMz0vM0Y_QjzKL94538QXJgFk--pGoIs6eqCIu8c7ecBFfj_zcVP0gfW_9AP2C3NDQiHJHRQDk3hE o/delta/base64xml/L0lKWWttUSEhL3dITUFDc0FFVUFOby80SUVhREFBIS9lbl9GSQ %21%21?setlocale=en_FI)

Bus: http://www.matkahuolto.info/lippu/en/

Train: http://www.vr.fi/heo/eng/index.html

Thanks a lot, I'll slip DJ a PM and ask...

[J4MIE]

Hope all you guys have a great time and remember to thank the marshals ;)

[Juha]

If we find Jippo's cottage we'll be fine. :D

[Daniel]

Hope all you guys have a great time and remember to thank the marshals ;)
Ditto :) Have fun and try not to eat too many makkara's. DJ I haven't forgotten that I owe you a pack :(

[jiipee64]

Just to get You guys in to the mood...

http://www.yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=3&ag=88&t=679&a=5836

sorry only in finnish...

[Brother John]

If we find Jippo's cottage we'll be fine. :D

Come to the boat cruise on lake Päijänne on Thursday evening or to the forum dinner in Jämsänkoski on Saturday evening.
It would be nice to meet some belgians from AutosportForum. be. :s mokin:

[LP]

have my ferry from Tallin to Helsinki @ 10.30 on Thursday - just enough time to find a nice spot in one of the stages and put up my tent :D

traveling to NORF in an Impreza is always fun, as all the kids by the roads are waving to you :)

[A.F.F.]

Hi guys, I'm thinking very hard on going this year, but is late in planning and have not made any arrangements for anything, and is also on my own - which sounds kind of boring. My question is therefore simple, is there anyone of the forumers that has a vacant bed somewhere, I'm thinking thursday-sunday? I will of course cover my share of the cost.

I'm aware that this is very late to ask, but still...

One more question, what's the easiest way of getting to/from Jyvaskela-Helsinki? If I go, I'll fly in to Helsinki. Is there train, bus or is it car rental?

Hope someone knows..

If you're heading back on sunday, I'll have space in my car :)

[jonkka]

If you're heading back on sunday, I'll have space in my car :)

In the boot, where all the beer and sausages were three days earlier? :eek:

[A.F.F.]

In the boot, where all the beer and sausages were three days earlier? :eek:

I never drink while watching rally :)

On the other hand I never watch rally when I drink.

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[DonJippo]

Come to the boat cruise on lake Päijänne on Thursday evening or to the forum dinner in Jämsänkoski on Saturday evening.
It would be nice to meet some belgians from AutosportForum. be. :s mokin:

You will be staying under the same roof so I'm sure you have enough time to get to know each other during the weekend.

[Juha]

I'm quit sure of that. ;)

Your dinner cruise, does it leave from the harbour near the service area?

[duff]

Well I'm stuck on the other side of the world and very jealous of you guys. Hope to have the chance to meet some of you there in the next couple of years (I guess not 2010).

[pino]

Hope all you guys have a great time and remember to thank the marshals ;)

Thanks mate, wish you were coming too :)

[DonJippo]

I'm quit sure of that. ;)

Your dinner cruise, does it leave from the harbour near the service area?

No, this one leaves from Jämsä not Jyväskylä.

[Tigger9232]

A friend from Finland ( Mika Pasanen ) made a 30min Film for a local Jyväskylä TV Channel, about the Tests from the Teams there.

http://www.areatv.fi/nettiareatv.php?tunnus=Kohti%20Jyskalaa

language is finnish,


regards
Stefanie

PS. Would love to be there this year again! :( (

[Halvis]

If you're heading back on sunday, I'll have space in my car :)

Thanks for the offer, but I haven't been able to get a place to stay - so I won't go this year either, unfortunately. My own fault, too late in planning...

Unless someone still has a vacant bed somewhere...?

[Kollo]

Thanks for the offer, but I haven't been able to get a place to stay - so I won't go this year either, unfortunately. My own fault, too late in planning...

Unless someone still has a vacant bed somewhere...?


Last 10 years our bed have been in my car (yes, it`s sedan). It`s summer in here :D . And feeling is great, little bit forest party at night etc.

p.s. our record is me + 3 friends at 4 days... :s mokin:

[Juha]

My pictures of the boat cruise are on my website (same page as the rally pics, at the bottom of the page). I have avoided posting pictures of you guys as I don't want to scare the visitors away. :D

http://www.rallyfoto.be/albums/830/images/IMG_0069.JPG

And if someone ever goes to a rally with A.F.F., please make sure you're good at reading maps, because his navigator isn't suited to visiting rallies. :p

Now I will relax and wait for Brother John to publish his biography with all necessary info about borrowing eggs. :D

[Olli]

Here's my event report from NORF 2008 @ rallystuff:
http://rallystuff.proboards44.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1517&page=1

[Brother John]

I had much fun in Finland with all the present forum members.
A.F.F. and janneppi did the transport to the cottage and were the drivers for Pino and me the complete weekend. Tomy was my ride back to the airport on Sunday. thanks, for the good service boys.
Don Jippo had ensured a splendid place of residence for us. Thanks to Don and his wife for the hospitality and good food at their cottage. :)
On thursday morning the fun could start :D . After the shakedown and a visit at the service park we went shopping and back to the cottage.
The hole meeting with the forum gang is not only about rally for me! Talking with friends, to laugh, drinks, barbeque, swims and more in the beautiful Finnish nature. What do you need more?
Thanks, Don Jippo, Pino, PuddleJumper, Adrian, Tomi, Janneppi, A.F.F and Juha with its father for the nice weekend. :up: To know all the details you come better next time to NORF. :s mokin: See you next time, because several from us want plenty of everything!

[BG5WRC]

What a really great week! Thanks to everyone from the forum group for driving, lots of laughs and planning the accommodation and visits to the stages. Biggest thanks to DonJippo (and you great family; future flying-finns!) for organising the cottage, some great meals and picking me up from Jyvaskyla at some silly time in the morning. Thanks Tomi for the return trip to the airport too! Great to meet everyone and put a few faces to names that I have seen around on the net recently and for years.

I definitely want to go back to Finland now, if not only just to drive on those roads! What a great venue for a WRC round.

Thanks!

Adrian

[PuddleJumper]

Greetings to everyone who made the trip to Rally Finland - thank you for making it another fantastic rally weekend. It was great to see old friends and meet new friends too, even if the first encounter was through sleepy eyes at stupid o'clock in the morning.

Sorry I screwed up the whipped cream. :p :

[DonJippo]

Sorry I screwed up the whipped cream. :p :

Don't you worry even that as so many other things turned out to be good, that was one hellova butter you managed to make :D

[Daniel]

Don't you worry even that as so many other things turned out to be good, that was one hellova butter you managed to make :D
Even the best (me! :p ) have made butter when they're meant to be making whipped cream :uhoh: