Polish rally news

[HaCo]

I'm surprised by the pace of Solowow, or am I surprised by the slower pace of Bouffier? Nice competition there in Poland!

[Tom206wrc]

Official...Holowczyc got his 10s penalty now

To me it doesn't change many things: he's going toward his first win with the S2000 even if rally is far from finished and that drivers behind can't drive too slow regarding the gaps ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Will SS9 start 30 minutes late or in normal time(1.17pm) ??? :confused:

[Jarek Z]

Holowczyc said that his jump start was caused by a small problem with the clutch.

HaCo - I think Bouffier is not driving at 100% because
1) he needs just a few points to become Polish champion already on this rally
2) he says he is a bit ill

But still - Holowczyc's performance is great!

P.S. Tom - Holowczyc's nickname is not "Holka", but Holek :)

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks for the info Jarek ;)

[Tom206wrc]

OK SS9 running ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Best time for Bouffier who only gets 16s late over Holek !!! :D

Kajetanowicz was 2nd fastest and takes 3rd overall at the expense of Solowow(who only gets 1.2s late)...

Kuchar was faster than Bebenek and takes 5th(with only 2.3s advantage)...

Nothing is done nowhere with 2 stages left to run :)

[Tom206wrc]

SS10 running :bounce:



Edit: Kajetanowicz not on stage ??? :confused:
Kajto after Bebenek...

[Tom206wrc]

Puncture for Kajetanowicz on SS10 :mark:

Bouffier wins stage again and has 13s to catch to Holowczyc...but with one 14km long stage to go, Krzystof should win this event ;)

Solowow takes 3rd following Kajto bad luck, and with 12s gap he should keep this position...

Battle for 5th should be intense again on last stage with 3s only between Bebenek and Kuchar ;)

Can't wait for SS11(in about 20 minutes now) :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

Victory for Holowczyk in front of Bouffier and Solowow(definitely) :D

Congratulations Krzystof and Lukasz :up:

[Tom206wrc]

MAXIMUM ATTACK for Kuchar on last stage who pips Bebenek fot 5th position !!! :D

Fantastic result for Peugeot fans :bounce:

[Mirek]

:D
http://foto.rallyonline.pl/GALERIA/2008/09/orlen/socha/DSC00819.JPG

[Raven]

There is nothing interesting in this photo... it's just a usual situation :D

[Tom206wrc]

Great photos-album of Rajd Orlen :)

http://www.autoklub.pl/rajdy,1222112281,,galerie.html

I heard that Kuzaj bought another Pug 207. Do you know more?
I noticed that in Orlen his peugeot has a different plate number from the last race. Is it the same car?

[Mirek]

He has two, one for tarmac and one for gravel (or to have still at least one undamaged) :D

thanks Mirek

[Jarek Z]

There is nothing interesting in this photo... it's just a usual situation :D

I agree. Typical way to park a rally car for Leszek :)

I don't know how many cars he has, but I think it's logical that he needs one new car after each rally, isn't it? ;)

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.autoklub.pl/21748,hotnews.html

:confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Link to Rajd Donoslanski entrylist doesn't work :(

http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=18869

[Jarek Z]

The entry list is here:
http://www.rajd.dolnoslaski.pl/doc/lista_zgloszen_rsmp.pdf
The rally will be held on the former stages of Rally Poland (from the times when it was a tarmac event).

[Tom206wrc]

Why no trace of Michal Solowow ??? Because rallye of Antibes(ERC)?? :confused:

[Jarek Z]

Michal Solowow took part in Sanremo Rally last week insted of Dolnoslaski Rally, because he felt it would help him to be better prepared for Antibes.

Sad news is that Kajetanowicz will not compete too - his sponsor (MapaMap) withdrew right before the event :(

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Kajto will find budget and a good car(S2000 would be perfect)for next year polish championship :mark:

[Jarek Z]

I hope Kajto will find budget and a good car(S2000 would be perfect)for next year polish championship :mark:

The budget was found quicker than anyone could think! Seeing Kajto's problems, one of his other sponsors (Platinum Motor Oil) decided to increase its own input and Kajto is in action again! :up:

[pucky54]

Can some of the Polish members confirm, that Kuzaj will take part in the German Lausitz Rally (17th-18th October) in the "Gravel"-Peugeot?

[Mirek]

I saw him in the entry list ;)

[pucky54]

ja, for sure, that's why i'm asking

the rally should be polish championship next year. as you see many drivers from poland are going there

[Mirek]

Lausitz in Polish championship? Just logicaly... Why??? Polish rally has big problems with lack of competitors on rallys (practicaly no small cars in championship) and they add another - foreig event? I relay don't see any sense in that...

[Raven]

I would like to see Lauzitz in polish championhips. We have only two gravel events, one more will be nice :-)
Years ago we had one rally in Slovakia (Gemer).

Every such idea is a good idea for me. For spectators you have more crews to watch and drivers have new, unknown stages. The budget should not be a big problem, as Lausitz Rallye is very close to polish border. Only accomodation and meals are more expensive.

I'm only worried about polish association (PZM), they still have such stupid thinking in communist style and because of that they are called "concrete" or even "armored concrete".

[Tom206wrc]

By the way, start of SSS Rajd Donoslanski this evening :p :

[Raven]

For me, tomorrow morning :p

[Tom206wrc]

Best time for Bouffier on SS1 ahead of Bebenek, Kuzaj and Kuchar :)

Yesterday it was Kuchar fastest on prolog ahead of Kuzaj, Stec and Bouffier... ;)

Kajto is 5th overall after SS1...

[Tom206wrc]

Problem for Flodin on SS2(he lost almost 4 minutes) :(

[Tom206wrc]

After 6 stages Bryan Bouffier is leading Tomasz Kuchar for 33s and Kajto for 1'15"... :p :

Puncture for Leszek Kuzaj on SS3, who is 6th overall now :mark:
Only 8s to catch to be 4th overall though... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

SS7 cancelled :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

End of first leg Rajd Donoslanski(after SS8)... ;)

Bryan Bouffier is leading with 35s gap over Tomasz Kuchar(good surprise to me because often Kuchar was off the pace a little bit during the past events in the S2000...)and 1'23" ahead of Kajetan Kajetanowicz...

Leszek Kuzaj is back 5th overall only 6s behind Bebenek...

By the way it looks this rally gives an advantage to S2000s over the GrNs seeing the number of 1-2-3 from Bouffier-Kuchar-Kuzaj... :confused:

[Mirek]

Bouffier is again different league... But good rally for Typa so far :)

[Tom206wrc]

How come Kuzi is 3rd overall at +51s from Bouffier at the end of leg one(official classification) ???? :confused:


His puncture that made him 5th overall yesterday was wrong news ????

[dumb]

I would like to see Lauzitz in polish championhips. We have only two gravel events, one more will be nice :-)
Years ago we had one rally in Slovakia (Gemer).

Every such idea is a good idea for me. For spectators you have more crews to watch and drivers have new, unknown stages. The budget should not be a big problem, as Lausitz Rallye is very close to polish border. Only accomodation and meals are more expensive.

I'm only worried about polish association (PZM), they still have such stupid thinking in communist style and because of that they are called "concrete" or even "armored concrete".

Or.It would be very nice that one Lithuania rally will be in Poland.Ofcourse on tarmac because we don't have tarmac events in calendar.And we can offer to you one fast gravel rally.

[Mirek]

Kajetanowicz has some problems. He is said to be on warning lights...

[Mirek]

Typa is out :(

[Mirek]

Finish:

1. Bouffier (victory in 14 of 15 stages, 30 sec. penalty)
2. Kuchar +38,7
3. Kuzaj +1:01,9 (first finish with 207!)
4. Kajetanowicz +2:18,3
5. Bebenek +2:39,6
6. Dytko +2:54,1
7. Stec +5:29,4
8. Ruta +6:21,2

Video leg 1: http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=dHcOxcNpups

[Tom206wrc]

It was the S2000 result I was waiting for :p :


First time Kuzi has a finish with the S2000 :D

[urabus-denoS2000]

It was the S2000 result I was waiting for :p :


First time Kuzi has a finish with the S2000 :D

Congratulations to Kuzi!!! :p

[Mirek]

Fiat Polska announced official team for 2009 Polish championship. The driver will be Grzegorz Grzyb. Both car and service team will be from Italy.

[Mirek]

Very nice video from second leg: http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ-7OZ0l6lI

[HaCo]

]Fiat Polska announced official team for 2009 Polish championship. The driver will be Grzegorz Grzyb. Both car and service team will be from Italy.

Great News!

[Tom206wrc]

]Fiat Polska announced official team for 2009 Polish championship. The driver will be Grzegorz Grzyb. Both car and service team will be from Italy.



Great news ;)

And Peugeot Polska keeps Bouffier, or they try a polish driver in 2009 ??? :p :

[urabus-denoS2000]

Peugeot Polska takes Kajetanowicz and we hace a great fight between two young guns!

[Raven]

Kajetanowicz (if not Bouffier again) is the best choice for Peugeot Polska. Future of this talented driver is not clear, as his last rally was in doubt to the last moment (sponsor withdrawal). For the next season he has (probably!) no sponsor.

[Jarek Z]

]Fiat Polska announced official team for 2009 Polish championship. The driver will be Grzegorz Grzyb. Both car and service team will be from Italy.

Yes, this is the good news after Dolnoslaski Rally. The bad news is that Tomasz Czopik decided to finish his rally career. He has never been the fastest driver in Poland, but always a nice guy and entertaining to watch:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=156&pg_[go]=11
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=1509&pg_[go]=44
http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=2340&pg_[go]=12

[Tom206wrc]

Is Kajto saying something interesting about 2009 season in this interview ??? :confused:

http://www.autoklub.pl/21961,hotnews.html

[Mirek]

He said he probably would start next year with Lancer because S2000 is too expensive.

[Tom206wrc]

Pitty because it seems you MUST drive an S2000 if you want to win overall...Bouffier showed it :mark:

[Mirek]

But will Bryan be in Poland again in 2009?

[Tom206wrc]

No idea :confused:

But in case Bouffier goes to IRC(he would deserve it)I believe Peugeot Polska will chose a polish driver for the 2009 national campaign ;)

[Jarek Z]

I don't know if anybody is interested in cross-country rallies, but Krzysztof Holowczyc was third in UAE Desert Challenge Rally in Dubai and thanks to that he is second in the FIA Cross-Country Trophy (or whatever it is called).

Final standings of the Cross-Country Trophy:
1. Nasser Al Attiyah (Q) - 26
2. Krzysztof Hołowczyc (PL) - 16
3. Luc Alphand (F) - 15
Giniel de Villiers (RSA) - 15
Dominique Housieaux (F) -15

Holowczyc and Fortin in action:

http://www.rajdy.holek.pl/2008uae/newsphotos/29_fotoss.jpg

[Jarek Z]

A new rally team in Poland with two Mitsubishis sponsored by Gulf:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=19524

[Tom206wrc]

Entrylist of next week's Rajd Barborka(not complete yet) :p :

http://www.cieszynskabarborka.pl/listazgloszen.php

[Tom206wrc]

On http://www.autoklub.pl there's an interview of Michal Bebenek...what does he say about the S2000s ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Why Kajetanowicz and Kuzaj forfeit of this week-end's Rajd Cieznyka Barborka ??? :(

[Jarek Z]

I don't know answers to your questions Tom, but here is 2009 Polish championship calendar:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=19632

[Tom206wrc]

Why Kajetanowicz and Kuzaj forfeit of this week-end's Rajd Cieznyka Barborka ??? :(



In fact they aren't forfeit, they only changed codrivers(wife Aleksandra for Kajto and Jakub Gerber for Kuzi) :D

[Tom206wrc]

First entries Rajd Barborka ;)

http://www.rajdbarborka.pl/?mid=1&page_id=93

[Tom206wrc]

Surprise at Barborka entrylist !!! Leszek Kuzaj in a whale and Szymon Ruta in a 207 S2000 :eek:

[br21]

anybody heard about kuzaj in focus from wevers sport for barborka rally on 13.12.08?

[PLuto]

anybody heard about kuzaj in focus from wevers sport for barborka rally on 13.12.08?

No, Kuzaj will start in Barborka with 307.

[Tom206wrc]

Will Tomasz Kuchar run Barborka too ??? :confused:

[Raven]

Tom206wrc, rumors say he has some problems after medical surgery, so it's not sure.

[Tom206wrc]

Oh no :(

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.autoklub.pl/22477,hotnews.html
http://rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=19764

Are they talking about Peugeot-Sport Polska plans for 2009 ??? :confused:

[br21]

http://www.autoklub.pl/22477,hotnews.html
http://rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=19764

Are they talking about Peugeot-Sport Polska plans for 2009 ??? :confused:

yes, but nothing is sure yet. in fact they say they know nothing at all at this moment... maybe 207rc cup, maybe sth else...maybe nothing... we have to wait and see, they will know something at the beginning of 2009

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks Br21 ;)

[Tom206wrc]

I thought Tomek Czopik retired from rally scene early this year :confused:


Therefore I see him on entrylist of Rajd Barborka ;)

[Raven]

He retired, but he will participate in Barborka Rally and maybe in Rally Poland.

[Tom206wrc]

Apparently Bouffier fall from bicycle and broke leg or feet, explaining why he won't be at Barborka next week :mark: :(

[urabus-denoS2000]

Apparently Bouffier fall from bicycle and broke leg or feet, explaining why he won't be at Barborka next week :mark: :(

French guys love bicycles

Jokes aside,I wish Bouffier a speedy recovery

[Tom206wrc]

Tomasz Kuchar is on entrylist Rajd Barborka but not with the 207 S2000...someone know why ??? :confused:

[br21]

probably they think on those type of stages Ngroup car is faster than s2000.

[Jarek Z]

Tomasz Kuchar is leading Barborka Rally after 3 stages.
Pictures from the scrutineering...
http://rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3683
and from the stages:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3687

[urabus-denoS2000]

He may be fast but his Subaru is ugly.....


http://foto.rallyonline.pl/GALERIA/2008/12/barborka_warszawska/os1_koziarski/img_2283.jpg

http://foto.rallyonline.pl/GALERIA/2008/12/barborka_warszawska/os1_koziarski/img_2278.jpg

[Jarek Z]

He may be fast but his Subaru is ugly.....


But is it more ugly than N14? :)

Anyway, Barborka Rally after SS6, with one stage to go:
1. Tomasz Kuchar
2. Michał Sołowow +4,0
3. Kajetan Kajetanowicz +5,0
4. Staniszewski +16,0
5. Czopik +22,4
6. Oleksowicz +23,4

[urabus-denoS2000]

But is it more ugly than N14? :)



Thanks to that wing I am afraid it is.......even though it is pretty close :p ;)

[Tom206wrc]

probably they think on those type of stages Ngroup car is faster than s2000.



He could have been right, regarding his victory :p :


But Solowow didn't finish far behind though... ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like WRC cars could be back in 2009 polish rallies championship :confused:

Not good news for team/drivers running S2000... :mark:

[Raven]

Nobody will be interested in WRC - too expensive and these cars will be calssified only in OPEN class.

[Tom206wrc]

OK thanks Raven...

[tolis]

He may be fast but his Subaru is ugly.....


http://foto.rallyonline.pl/GALERIA/2008/12/barborka_warszawska/os1_koziarski/img_2283.jpg

http://foto.rallyonline.pl/GALERIA/2008/12/barborka_warszawska/os1_koziarski/img_2278.jpg


IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS AN IMPREZA N11, IF YOU LOOK IT CAREFULLY(EXCEPT FOR THE FRONT PART). DONT YOU AGREE???

[pucky54]

it lokks like a N12 with changed front and other spoiler

[urabus-denoS2000]

I think it looks like something made out of different cars......Kuchar raced an N12 recently so it is probably that car

[Jarek Z]

I think it looks like something made out of different cars......Kuchar raced an N12 recently so it is probably that car

If you look closely at the front part of that car you will notice that it is... Impreza N13 :)

[Tom206wrc]

Cersanit Rally team(Solowow's team)owns two 207 S2000s ???? :confused:

http://www.autoklub.pl/22714,news.html

[Mirek]

Tom, we have database :D

http://www.s2000rally.com/car-list.php?car=&team=64&plate=&nat=&bt-search=Search

[urabus-denoS2000]

The new one was bought for San Remo,so Tom I am dissapointed in you,as a Pug fan you should have known that by the time of San Remo SS1 ;)

[Tom206wrc]

A Citroën rally cup in 2009 in Poland ???? :confused:


http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=20105

I have great pleasure to invite everybody for Round WRC in
POLAND.WELCOME EVERYBODY IN POLAND JUNE 2009.

"On this website http://www.accommodation-rallypoland.com
Supporters from all over the world can book accommodation for the period the Rally Poland '09 (25-28 June 2009), which is one of the rounds of WRC cycle. You can also find there a google map on which both places of
accommodation and special stages are marked. What is more, there are
also descriptions of given accommodation along with pictures, GPS
location and the description of the equipment. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5g-fkCM_ovc

[Jarek Z]

Yes, Citroen C2 R2 challenge, which turned out to be a great success this season, will continue next year. Jan Chmielewski http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=3281&pg_[go]=9 , the winner of the challenge, collected two prizes - a road car Citroen C2 VTS and a special kit to built a rally C2 R2 Max.

Interesting piece of news is that Pawel Stefanicki announced that he will drive Honda Civic R3 in the Polish championship next year. He's not a bad driver and he will be backed by Honda Poland, so I expect some good results!

[Tom206wrc]

As we're already at the start of 2009, does someone know when Peugeot Polska will give decision regarding 2009 rally championship ??? :confused:

[Jarek Z]

As we're already at the start of 2009, does someone know when Peugeot Polska will give decision regarding 2009 rally championship ??? :confused:

Nobody knows that yet, but while waiting for this decision why not watch a video featuring Jan Chmielewski and his Citroen? :)
http://rally.wesem.pl/inc/RSMP_2008.WMV (45 MB)

[Mirek]

Rajd Rzeszowski will be apart of Polish championship also part of Slovak championship in 2009. That also means some Czech crews will probably be there.

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=20339

:confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

It is about opening a new N4- class,similar to Subaru Narway Cup in my opinion

[Karbonyl]

You're right, urabus. It should be pure group N cars with stock brakes, gearbox and diffs. Drivers count with 25% costs savings for running these cars. N4- should have their own class, but would also score in general Gr. N classification. This idea is currently on the table of polish ASN.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Great idea,hope it realises :)

[Raven]

I hope polish drivers will finally understand that there is something else than top spec cars. The main problem is in the their heads.
When S2000 it must be this year's version , when Lancer then Evo IX in the yesterday's spec, when lower class then C2 R2 (of course the most wanted is MAX version).
The most funny in this pursuit for perfection was changing the car from N12 to N14 or from Evo VII to Evo VIII MR :D :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

"Problem"(disagreement) with polish championship new regulations for Bouffier and Peugeot Polska ??? :confused:

http://www.autoklub.pl/23114,hotnews.html

[br21]

"Problem"(disagreement) with polish championship new regulations for Bouffier and Peugeot Polska ??? :confused:

http://www.autoklub.pl/23114,hotnews.html

bouffier says new regulations are not bad, just forces different tactics, especially during second day.
article also says that he tries to collect money for upcoming season for polish champs

[Tom206wrc]

OK thanks I frankly understood the opposite then :laugh:

[Tom206wrc]

Why do they mention Peugeot Polska and polish rallies championship on Autoklub article about today's Peugeot-Sport press conference in Paris ??? :confused:

http://www.autoklub.pl/23352,news.html

[urabus-denoS2000]

From the translation I understand that they were only present there?

[PLuto]

There is only written, that Peugeot Sport Polska will be the biggest favourite in national championship (like Andreucci in Italy and Magalhaes in Portugal). Nothing more.

[Tom206wrc]

There is only written, that Peugeot Sport Polska will be the biggest favourite in national championship (like Andreucci in Italy and Magalhaes in Portugal). Nothing more.



It's not "nothing" !!! This means Peugeot Polska keeps on rallying this year...no ???? :confused:

[br21]

It's not "nothing" !!! This means Peugeot Polska keeps on rallying this year...no ???? :confused:

It probably means that...
Not yet known who the driver will be, there are some rumours but nothing from reliable source

[Jarek Z]

Not a bad beginning of the year for Krzysztof Holowczyc. In January he was 5th in the famous Dakar Rally, in February he became the "official face" of Atlantic watches company and today he confirmed that he will drive Ford Focus WRC on the Rally of Poland in June. The car will come from Stobart or Munchi's team. Good luck to Holek!

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Not a bad beginning of the year for Krzysztof Holowczyc. In January he was 5th in the famous Dakar Rally, in February he became the "official face" of Atlantic watches company and today he confirmed that he will drive Ford Focus WRC on the Rally of Poland in June. The car will come from Stobart or Munchi's team. Good luck to Holek!
Really great news!!!

Holek back in a top WRC... I hope he have some pre/testing to show his skills agains some WRC boys... :s mokin:

[Jarek Z]

]Really great news!!!

Holek back in a top WRC... I hope he have some pre/testing to show his skills agains some WRC boys... :s mokin:

Even without testing Matt Wilson can already s.h.i.t. his pants ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Great news!!!

[tolis]

Very good news!!!!

[Jarek Z]

Do you want to see what Polish Rally Championship looked like in 1987? Just take a look at this photo gallery:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3764

[Mirek]

Today, it's five years from the friday 13th 2004 when Janusz Kulig lost his life. Rest in peace!

[urabus-denoS2000]

Rest in peace

[Jarek Z]

Thanks for mentioning this great driver's name here guys :up:
Next weekend Kulig and Bublewicz Memorial will be held in Wieliczka near Cracow.
Here is the entry list:
http://superos.pl/listazgloszen.php
And here is map of the stage:
http://superos.pl/dokumenty/mapa2009.jpg

[Jarek Z]

And here is a photographic homage to Janusz Kulig:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&pg_[keyword]=kulig&pg_[search]=wsz%C4%8F%C5%BC%CB%9Dzie&pg_[ex_path]=0&pg_[order]=data+galerii&pg_[step]=20&pg_[go]=20&modex=pokaz&T[id]=403

[Jarek Z]

And here is a photo gallery picturing the opening of the monument for Janusz Kulig and Marian Bublewicz:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&pg_[keyword]=kulig&pg_[search]=wsz%C4%8F%C5%BC%CB%9Dzie&pg_[ex_path]=0&pg_[order]=data+galerii&pg_[step]=20&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3023

[Jarek Z]

The new face of Atlantic :)
http://www.timetrend.pl/typo3temp/pics/a2c6425154.jpg
http://www.moda.com.pl/images/16/16420/4.jpg
http://www.moda.com.pl/images/16/16420/2.jpg

[urabus-denoS2000]

Holek knows his bussiness ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Why Leszek Kuzaj and Tomasz Kuchar didn't use their S2000s at the Memorial Janus Kulig yesterday ???? :confused:


PS: Kuchar was on entrylist but didn't run the event...

[Jarek Z]

Why Leszek Kuzaj and Tomasz Kuchar didn't use their S2000s at the Memorial Janus Kulig yesterday ???? :confused:


PS: Kuchar was on entrylist but didn't run the event...

Kuchar was ill. I don't know anything about Kuzaj.
The event was won by Bebenek brothers and their Mitsubishi Lancer.

A few photos:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/g.php?1&pg_[desc]=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T[id]=3777

[Jarek Z]

A 4-minute video from Krzysztof Holowczyc's winter tests with his private Subaru:
http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=20795

[Tom206wrc]

Kajetan Kajetanowicz in Subaru Poland Rally team with Impreza N14 !!! ;)

http://www.autoklub.pl/23651,hotnews.html

[Mirek]

Will be interesting to see how fast he is with Subaru. He definitely has the speed :)

[Tom206wrc]

Now all depend what contenders he will have exactly in polish championship :mark:

[Raven]

]Will be interesting to see how fast he is with Subaru. He definitely has the speed :)
...but N14 has not :(

[urabus-denoS2000]

N14 showed good speed at the end of last year,maybe Kajto drives an N15...

The car shouldn't be a big problem (hopefully)

Is that a Subaru Poland project?

Good luck to him!

[Raven]

Yes, it'a an official Subaru Poland Rally Team.

[Mirek]

Who will run the car fir them? I presume STT not...

[Raven]

Kuzaj (STT) is not going to prepare Subarus anymore. I don't know who will do it now, but in that article is said, the SPRT can even help other drivers with Imprezas, so they have the potential.

[Tom206wrc]

Strange that with few weeks to go before 1st round of polish championship(end of this month), Peugeot-Sport Polska hasn't comunicated anything regarding 2009 season :s

[br21]

Strange that with few weeks to go before 1st round of polish championship(end of this month), Peugeot-Sport Polska hasn't comunicated anything regarding 2009 season :s

first round of polish championships will take place on 23/25 of april, so we have still almost month and a half.
at the end of march (27/28) we have first round of polish rally cup (2nd league)

[Jarek Z]

Entry list for Rajd Warszawski, first round of the Polish Rally Cup (the fastest cars are at the end of the list):
http://www.rajdwarszawski.com.pl/doc/lista_zgloszen_RPP.pdf

[Jarek Z]

Kajetan "Kajto" Kajetanowicz has been officially confirmed as the new Subaru Poland Rally Team driver. He will compete in all Polish Championship rounds using Subaru Impreza N14. Kajto's new co-driver is Jacek Rathe, who used to co-drive for Robert Herba in the good old days.

[Jarek Z]

Maciej Rzeznik will drive Suzuki Swift Super 1600 in both Polish and Slovakian championships. He is not a very fast driver, but it will be nice to see some Super 1600 car on Polish stages again.

http://foto.rallyonline.pl/news_tmp/09news01rzeznik_460.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Entry list for Rajd Warszawski, first round of the Polish Rally Cup (the fastest cars are at the end of the list):
http://www.rajdwarszawski.com.pl/doc/lista_zgloszen_RPP.pdf


I thought Szymon Ruta would run with 207 S2000 from Kuzaj team... :confused:

[Mirek]

This is just a Polish cup not Polish championship ;)

[Jarek Z]

A new car is being built for Polish championship. What do you think about it? Can it fight for victory?
http://www.rallyonline.pl/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=21246

[Tom206wrc]

If the entrylist was made of Trabants and other Fiats Polski, Yugos, etc,...it would have had a chance :p :

[ProRally]

Kuzaj (STT) is not going to prepare Subarus anymore. I don't know who will do it now, but in that article is said, the SPRT can even help other drivers with Imprezas, so they have the potential.

Rumor has it car would be run by Belgian team with lot of Subaru experiance

[Karbonyl]

Then it could be Syms Europe...

[wwbroe]

Then it could be Syms Europe...

Or the team of Bernard Munster (BMA), they are preparing Subaru's for a long time now. ;)

[Karbonyl]

True, but european Syms was connected to Kuzaj and Subaru Polska already in the past.

[wwbroe]

True, but european Syms was connected to Kuzaj and Subaru Polska already in the past.

You are right ofcourse, we will see wich one it will be. :)

[Jarek Z]

Also I remember that some Polish Subaru drivers (including Kuchar) were co-operating with another Belgian tuner Jos Boon. But who will it be this time I have no idea.

Speaking about Kuchar, bad news from his camp is that due to the economical crisis, one of his sponsors - Statoil - withdrew from the rally program.

http://www.rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=3180&pg_[go]=2

[Tom206wrc]

Will Kuchar rent the 207 S2000 to another driver ??? :confused:


Bad news indeed for him :(

[Jarek Z]

It is rumoured that Kuchar wants to sell his 207, but I don't know if it's true.

[Mirek]

The car is on http://www.rallycarsforsale.net, that's true but there is also many cars with too high prices as an attempt if someone buys them...

[Mirek]

Rajd Krakowski is cancelled!

[wwbroe]

]Rajd Krakowski is cancelled!

What is the reason, economical crisis or something else? :(

[Raven]

As always - money :(

[Tom206wrc]

:eek: :eek:


:( :(

[Raven]

It looks that Tomasz Kuchar is Peugeot Sport Polska driver for 2009... but no official info so far.

[Tom206wrc]

It looks that Tomasz Kuchar is Peugeot Sport Polska driver for 2009... but no official info so far.


Quite strange choice, no ??? :confused:


Good driver in polish championship(as privateer), but I don't think he has level to fight with drivers such official Subaru "Kajto"(and what about drivers like Grzegorz Grzyb, Fiat official ??) :mark:

[Mirek]

Grzyb won't do Polish championship, only Slovak and some other selected rallys (Kopná, Barum, Prague maybe some in Poland).

[Raven]

Tom, remember that in modern rallying you have to know proper people or have money. Your skills are less important.
I speak generally, not about this specific situation, as I consider both drivers as fast enough to drive in PSP.

[urabus-denoS2000]

I think Kuchar is pretty fast no?

[Tom206wrc]

I think Kuchar is pretty fast no?



Among privateers, OK, but as factory driver... :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Well he's not to far behind :)

[Tom206wrc]

It is rumoured that Kuchar wants to sell his 207, but I don't know if it's true.



If he drives as Peugeot Polska factory driver perhaps he sells the old one to get a 2009 spec. :confused:

[Raven]

Another rumour is that one of the polish drivers (Oleksowicz?) will use it.

[Tom206wrc]

Another rumour is that one of the polish drivers (Oleksowicz?) will use it.



Thanks for that info even if it's only rumour for now ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Autoklub and Rallyonline today takes also the info about Kuchar becoming new Peugeot Polska driver ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like official suddenly now !!! :confused:

http://www.rallyonline.pl:84/index.php?1&modex=pnews&&s=21602

[karlzoro]

I don't know but is there any news about Bouffier for this season??? :rolleyes:

[Jarek Z]

The only news about Bouffier is that he will most probably not compete in this year's Polish championship :(

[Jarek Z]

Among privateers, OK, but as factory driver... :confused:

Don't forget that Kuchar was already a factory driver for Hyundai in 2002 if memory serves me ;)

[Tom206wrc]

The only news about Bouffier is that he will most probably not compete in this year's Polish championship :(



I hope he will drive somewhere an S2000 :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Finally Bryan Bouffier in polish championship with the Proton Satria S2000 ???? :confused:

[Jarek Z]

The seat at Peugeot Polska team was taken by Kuchar, so Bouffier tries to organize his own team. Acoording to his press officer, Linda Martins, Bryan wants to drive Proton Satria S2000, but is still looking for money to cover such program. There's not much time left, because the first event in Polish championship is in May (the famous Elmot Rally). Good luck Bryan!

[Jarek Z]

Leszek Kuzaj confirmed his return to Polish championship. He will drive Peugeot 207 S2000 prepared by his own team. Another Peugeot 207 S2000 from Kuzaj's team will be driven by Szymon Ruta, one of the worst drivers in Polish championship.

[Jarek Z]

Kuchar said on the radio that his former Pug 207 will be driven by Maciej Oleksowicz. So, as you can see, luckily we will have some S2000 cars in Poland this year.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Kuchar said on the radio that his former Pug 207 will be driven by Maciej Oleksowicz. So, as you can see, luckily we will have some S2000 cars in Poland this year.

Oh you poor people,like you didn't have any last year! :D

[Raven]

Another Peugeot 207 S2000 from Kuzaj's team will be driven by Szymon Ruta, one of the worst drivers in Polish championship.
Some time ago, on one of the rallies there was a banner made by his "fans"
"Ruta, szybciej będziesz z buta", what means "Ruta, you will be faster on foot". That shows his skills :)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Some time ago, on one of the rallies there was a banner made by his "fans"
"Ruta, szybciej będziesz z buta", what means "Ruta, you will be faster on foot". That shows his skills :)

:D :D :D :D

[Tom206wrc]

Maciej Oleksowicz livery for his 207 S2000 can be seen on http://castrol.q-service.pl/ and I like it ;)

[br21]

- Tomasz Czopik will take part in this year championships, after announcing retirement last season. He will drive evo 9 with Magdalena Lukas as his codriver.
- another polish rally cancelled, this time 2nd league rajd agapit, gravel rally, with always many drivers testing on this rally before rajd polski. and rumours say few other rallies under threat..

[Tom206wrc]

Pics test Kuzaj & Ruta ;)

http://www.autoklub.pl/1240821430,,galeria.html

[wwbroe]

Pics test Kuzaj & Ruta ;)

http://www.autoklub.pl/1240821430,,galeria.html

Thanks for that, Tom. ;)

[AlfaWRC]

Is WRC-Poland also part of the polish championship?

Thnx for the info!

[Jarek Z]

No, it is not. And the entry fee is so high that most Polish drivers don't want to compete in this event. Damn WRC!

[AlfaWRC]

No, it is not. And the entry fee is so high that most Polish drivers don't want to compete in this event. Damn WRC!

Nevertheless, I' ll be there...

[Raven]

Entry list for Elmot Rally, first round of polish championship:
http://www.autoklub.pl/637,,list,event.html

[Tom206wrc]

Only a Mitsu GrN for Bouffier :mark:


Let's see what he can do against "Kajto" Kajetanowicz :D


I'm glad Michal Solowow adds his name to entrylist :)

[ProRally]

....

Let's see what he can do against "Kajto" Kajetanowicz :D


....

Only 3 Subaru's .... lot less then previous years. Yes curious what Kajto will do

[Tom206wrc]

Strange also...no Mitsu Evo X at all(the latest spec. model) :confused:

[Jarek Z]

]Who will run the car for them? I presume STT not...

It was finally revealed that Kajetanowicz's Subaru will be prepared by Symtech Racing, a new tuner located in Grobbendonk, Belgium.

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for the Rajd Elmot to start :D


Really I wonder what former twice polish champion Bryan Bouffier can do in his GrN against drivers like Solowow, Kuzaj, Kuchar, Kajetanowicz,... ;)

[Jarek Z]

Can't wait for the Rajd Elmot to start :D


Me too :)

In the meantime you can take a look at new car for Tomasz Czopik:
http://www.wrumwrum.pl/rajdy/rsmp/nowe-barwy-tomka-czopika

Bryan Bouffier revealed that his new sponsor is a Polish computer company MALKOM. He will still try to find more money for a Super 2000 car on the next round.

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting, Subaru Poland team will use BFGoodrich tyres this season(see pics of Kajto testing) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

http://www.autoklub.pl/24621,news.html


:confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Kajto livery ;)

http://www.kimrally.pl/obrazek.php?id=11569&nid=8865

[wwbroe]

It was finally revealed that Kajetanowicz's Subaru will be prepared by Symtech Racing, a new tuner located in Grobbendonk, Belgium.

It is not a new tuner actually, they have been preparing Subaru's for few years and wth much success. ;)

[tolis]

Photos from today's scrutineering from Elmot:
http://rallyonline.pl:84/g.php?1&pg_%5bdesc%5d=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T%5bid%5d=3963

[Mirek]

Typa in Evo X? Interesting :)

[Tom206wrc]

Results Rajd Elmot will appear from tomorrow afternoon on http://www.subaru.pl as usuall ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

What can I say but...

GO KAJTO!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Kuzaj fastest SS1 ahead of Solowow, Kuchar, Kajto, Bouffier and Czopik,... ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Kuzaj fastest again... I hope he can take the car to the finish line...

Interesting to see that Solowow is being faster than Kuchar...

[Tom206wrc]

Solowow ran rallies more than Kuchar this year(ERC rounds especially)...perhaps Kuchar lacks competition :confused: and he has new codriver too :rolleyes:

[Tom206wrc]

Puncture for Bouffier in the SS3 where he lost 37s to Solowow :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like Kuzaj started doing mistake on SS3(he lost 11s on Kuchar)and now his advantage is less than 1s... :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

After three stages gap is 7.5s between the five leaders of the rally(Kuzaj, Kuchar, Solowow, Kajto and Czopik) ;)

Bouffier is 9th after his puncture...

[Tom206wrc]

More pics of the rally(shakedown) ;)

http://rallyonline.pl:84/g.php?1&pg_%5bdesc%5d=+DESC&modex=pokaz&T%5bid%5d=3968

[morganmilan]

Tom, are you really only one person? It´s almost impossible to believe you are giving news about toomany different rallyes... ;) Thanks, anyway :)

[Tom206wrc]

All the polish members of the forum should be at the rally at that time :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Leader Kuzaj off road on SS5(crew OK)...well, well, is that new ??? :s :s

[Tom206wrc]

After SS5 Kajto is leading the Pugs(Kuchar and Solowow)by 10s... ;)

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Kuzaj did like most of times... he really have an impressive speed... but.. :(

There are too many off's for one single driver

[Tom206wrc]

End of leg one...looks like a strong duel between Kuchar and Kajetanowicz tomorrow for the victory :bounce:

The 3rd podium position will be also disputed between Czopik, Solowow, Oleksowicz and why not Bouffier ;)

Tomorrow all stages will be short(between 6 and 8km long)but they will be 9...anything can still happen :)

[ProRally]

]Kuzaj did like most of times... he really have an impressive speed... but.. :(

There are too many off's for one single driver

This time not his fault....
After jump the wheel just broke on landing

[toras]

Hi

A short reportage after the first day of Elmot in english you can find on http://www.rallynews.info

We've also uploaded a few photo galleries from the stages run today and some more should be availble soon.

Tommorow we will keep uploading news and pictures from the rally.

regards
-
toras

[[Madeira-Rally]]

This time not his fault....

After jump the wheel just broke on landing

Ok,
Thanks for the info ;)

[Tom206wrc]

After SS9 Rajd Elmot today Bryan Bouffier leading in front of Michal Solowow, Kajetan Kajetanowicz and Tomasz Kuchar(less than 7s between them all)... ;)

[tolis]

A great battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mirek]

After SS9 Rajd Elmot today Bryan Bouffier leading in front of Michal Solowow, Kajetan Kajetanowicz and Tomasz Kuchar(less than 7s between them all)... ;)




You are not right. You have classification of second day only. Bryan is 4th overal. On the upper left part of the screen You have to switch "Widok:" to "Rajd" ;)

Kajetanowicz is leading by 0,1 seconds from Kuchar!

[GigiGalliNo1]

I will post some photos from Day 1 at Elmot!!!

On Monday - i have no internet until then and now on another computer

It was great seeing the S2000 cars and 1600's too! :D

But only one day was enough.... maybe next time I will do both days... when I am here next!

I forgot which stage but it was in Walim town center that most of the cars went into ditches! :D

Photos to come but will follow on here!


This time not his fault....
After jump the wheel just broke on landing

I was at that Jump!

[toras]

Photos from SS 8:
http://rallynews.info/lang.en/no/galeria/49
and
http://rallynews.info/lang.en/no/galeria/48

[ProRally]

......



I was at that Jump!

So did the wheel break ? That is what I heard, but maybe you have seen it :D

[[Madeira-Rally]]

Finally Kuchar took the lead...

[subarak]

All from Rally Elmot - on-line results, gallery, photo http://rallyonline.pl

on-line results http://rallyonline.pl:84/?modex=rsmp

[wwbroe]

After stage 12, and it seems like Kuzaj restarted this morning? :D

1. Kuchar
2. Kajetanowicz at 2"5
3. Solowow at 21"5
4. Bouffier at 31"2
5. Czopik at 55"3


9. Kuzaj at 6'01"5

[wwbroe]

Kajetanowicz in the lead after stage 13, being second fastest on this stage and 3.4" quicker as Kuchar, and above that Kuchar has a 10" penalty? So now he has lead of 10"9 to Kuchar with only two stages to go. :D

[toras]

Kuchar - SS13 falstart - 10" penalty

[subarak]

Results online!!! Stage 14 http://rallyonline.pl:84/?modex=rsmp

[wwbroe]

Kajotanowicz wins Rajd Elmot: :D

1. Kajotanowicz
2. Kuchar at 14"8
3. Solowow at 21"7
4. Bouffier at 28"3
5. Czopik at 1'04"8

8. Kuzaj at 5'51"7

[Mirek]

Great premiere with Subaru for Kajetan Kajetanowicz!

[Tom206wrc]

Gutted Kuchar di a mistake at start SS13(jump start 10s penalty)...that made him clearly lost the event :(

Good job Kajto anyway :up:

[urabus-denoS2000]

Go Kajto!

[toras]

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned it before, but rules in scoring have changed in Poland. I've explained it at the English website.

"This season of Polish Championship brings significant change to the scoring system. It was first introduced at the Elmot Rally. In this article we'll explain the new rules. During all rounds of RSMP both Legs are to be taken into account separately. Additionally, five best teams in overall (being a sum of first and second Leg) are given points. Points for winning the largest number of special stages are no longer given."
http://rallynews.info/lang.en/no/pnews/25

After the Elmot Rally in Polish Champoinship overall Kajetanowicz and Kuchar are first ex aequo. Both have 15 points.

Kajetanowicz says after rally:
- I'm very happy. I think, that the team is satisfied and that nobody would expect Subaru to win the rally. I love Elmot, this is my secon victory in this rally. We're of good hearts, yet not getting overexcited before next rounds. We have some serious work to do, we're still not as fast as we might be and we'll work hard to get better. I've won with S2000 cars. It prooves how lucky we were. Our great team and an excellent car helped us. In fact the result is dependent upon many factors. We felt good and those were our two days. But we cannot rest on our laurels after a single success.

A full and long coverage from Elmot_Krause Rally in English is to be published tomorrow!

[wwbroe]

I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned it before, but rules in scoring have changed in Poland. I've explained it at the English website.

"This season of Polish Championship brings significant change to the scoring system. It was first introduced at the Elmot Rally. In this article we'll explain the new rules. During all rounds of RSMP both Legs are to be taken into account separately. Additionally, five best teams in overall (being a sum of first and second Leg) are given points. Points for winning the largest number of special stages are no longer given."
http://rallynews.info/lang.en/no/pnews/25

After the Elmot Rally in Polish Champoinship overall Kajetanowicz and Kuchar are first ex aequo. Both have 15 points.

Kajetanowicz says after rally:
- I'm very happy. I think, that the team is satisfied and that nobody would expect Subaru to win the rally. I love Elmot, this is my secon victory in this rally. We're of good hearts, yet not getting overexcited before next rounds. We have some serious work to do, we're still not as fast as we might be and we'll work hard to get better. I've won with S2000 cars. It prooves how lucky we were. Our great team and an excellent car helped us. In fact the result is dependent upon many factors. We felt good and those were our two days. But we cannot rest on our laurels after a single success.

A full and long coverage from Elmot_Krause Rally in English is to be published tomorrow!

Thanks for this info Toras. ;) That might get interesting to see how the championship develops.

[Raven]

Gutted Kuchar di a mistake at start SS13(jump start 10s penalty)...that made him clearly lost the event :(

Good job Kajto anyway :up:
He lost 14.8s at the finish and the penalty was 10s, so he was just too slow for Kajetanowicz :)

[Tom206wrc]

He lost 14.8s at the finish and the penalty was 10s, so he was just too slow for Kajetanowicz :)



The penalty could have hampered his willing of fight for the victory in the last two stages too :mark:

[Raven]

The penalty could have hampered his willing of fight for the victory in the last two stages too :mark:
If so he should stop rallying.

[Jarek Z]

If so he should stop rallying.

You couldn't have said it better! :up:

[toras]

only for true rally maniacs, a very very long coverage, stage by stage, from Elmot in english:
http://rallynews.info/lang.en/no/pnews/29
this is the end of elmot topic;-)

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for Rajd Agapit, next round, held by end of may :bounce:


I hope Bouffier back in an S2000 :D

[Raven]

Agapit is not a next round, it supposed to be a second division rally but it is already cancelled. Next round of polish championships is gravel Lotos Rally in June.

[Tom206wrc]

:s

[Tom206wrc]

Entrylist Rajd Lotos, next round of polish championship(5/6th june)already available(without numbers)... ;)

http://www.rajdlotos.pl/

[Tom206wrc]

Can't wait for Rajd Lotos to start :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

http://rajdy.v10.pl/galeria/rajd,karkonoski,057,artykul,32021,0,jpg.html


Whose car is it ??? :confused:
Never seen a 207 with that livery...