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[N.O.T]

What do you know about rallying Mousefart? Your national level of rallying makes Wilson jr look like Loeb on the double.

don't overate us.....it might get in our heads.....

Now go watch that French guy ridicule your has been champ.....

[Simmi]

Anyone think Loeb will win in Finland this year? I do.

[White Sauron]

Anyone think Loeb will win in Finland this year? I do.

With new, faster evolution of the Focus, introduced there, it will be difficult for him...

[N.O.T]

Anyone think Loeb will win in Finland this year? I do.

depends on the championship...if it is still close he will not risk....if he has a good gap he will try.

[Wim_Impreza]

Anyone think Loeb will win in Finland this year? I do.

No, I think Loeb will never win in Finland.

[Woodeye]

Anyone think Loeb will win in Finland this year? I do.

No way.

[Simmi]

I think thats basically all he is missing from his career to make him a 'great' is a win in Finland.

[A.F.F.]

don't overate us.....it might get in our heads.....

Now go watch that French guy ridicule your has been champ.....

I do that. There are three Finns in top six, two of them in top three. I think we're covered. What comes to you NOT, I dunno... I do know that you should change your sig to something more suitfull. Now it's something you know nada about. :down:

[Woodeye]

Now go watch that French guy ridicule your has been champ.....

Which one of our "has been champs"? You know, we have quite a bunch of them.

Unlike you guys.

[A.F.F.]

Which one of our "has been champs"? You know, we have quite a bunch of them.

Unlike you guys.


:laugh:

:up: touche

[White Sauron]

my vote goes to finns... if my vote can count as at least a half-finnish...)

[TMorel]

am I missing something?
I've never been into this nationalistic crap that some people keep spouting
Wilson isn't "mine", Marcus isn't "yours" and Seb isnt.. well... I dunno, anyone want to admit to being French so they can claim him? ;)

OK, so we might not have quite the fight we want between the drivers, but there's still one hell of a lot to enjoy.

anyway, Schumi dominated F1 for a decade or so, if that was anything to go by then we've all got plenty of time to get fed up of watching Seb+Daniel+C4 winning so why rush to be depressed?

[N.O.T]

Which one of our "has been champs"? You know, we have quite a bunch of them.

Unlike you guys.

I am the first and probably the only Greek that makes fun of our jokes on wheels that in my country we call rally drivers...so using that offence doesn't get to me....

Its nice to see that you agree that the only champs from now on Finland has to offer are "has beens".... the golden era is gone....now just sit back and watch how many finns are in the top 6 because that No1 is reserved....

[White Sauron]

I am the first and probably the only Greek that makes fun of our jokes on wheels that in my country we call rally drivers...so using that offence doesn't get to me....

Its nice to see that you agree that the only champs from now on Finland has to offer are "has beens".... the golden era is gone....now just sit back and watch how many finns are in the top 6 because that No1 is reserved....

Nothing is eternal on Earth. For how long can Loeb stay the 1st? Even this year it's not the fact with gronholm still in.

[Christina]

Its nice to see that you agree that the only champs from now on Finland has to offer are "has beens".... the golden era is gone....now just sit back and watch how many finns are in the top 6 because that No1 is reserved....

I think that statement is a little bit premature, especially with guys like Mikko and Jari-Matti out there. i think a new era will start soon.

[N.O.T]

I think that statement is a little bit premature, especially with guys like Mikko and Jari-Matti out there. i think a new era will start soon.

For every Mikko and JM there is a sordo and duval out there.....

[Christina]

which means that the future of rallying will still be interesting!

I thought people had all but written off frankie.. i'm very sad that he's not here in portugal. :( but i do wish he was driving a better car than the skoda. no matter how much i like the fabia, it's not very quick. he should be in a better car.

[Erki]

am I missing something?
I've never been into this nationalistic crap that some people keep spouting
Wilson isn't "mine", Marcus isn't "yours" and Seb isnt.. well... I dunno, anyone want to admit to being French so they can claim him? ;)

:beer: :)


anyway, Schumi dominated F1 for a decade or so, if that was anything to go by then we've all got plenty of time to get fed up of watching Seb+Daniel+C4 winning so why rush to be depressed?

Daniel everywhere. :crazy:

[A.F.F.]

For every Mikko and JM there is a sordo and duval out there.....

And other way around. Pisses you off doesn't it ? There's always Finns in topr rallying.
:D

[Kamikaze]

This Guy fromm Greece is so funny :p


But to call him Mousefart is not fair !

It offends every Mousefart :D

[PatRedmond]

am I missing something?
I've never been into this nationalistic crap that some people keep spouting
Wilson isn't "mine", Marcus isn't "yours" and Seb isnt.. well... I dunno, anyone want to admit to being French so they can claim him? ;)

OK, so we might not have quite the fight we want between the drivers, but there's still one hell of a lot to enjoy.

anyway, Schumi dominated F1 for a decade or so, if that was anything to go by then we've all got plenty of time to get fed up of watching Seb+Daniel+C4 winning so why rush to be depressed?

Well said!!

As a Canadian, I have no 'National' driver whatsoever, so I wish all drivers success.

I do like BLUE however ... :p :

[Woodeye]

Its nice to see that you agree that the only champs from now on Finland has to offer are "has beens".... the golden era is gone....now just sit back and watch how many finns are in the top 6 because that No1 is reserved....

I don't remember agreeing anything with you.

Compare the number of Finns in top six to number of other nationalities. After that calculation come and tell again that the golden era is over.

[MJW]

For every Mikko and JM there is a sordo and duval out there..... Duval! what planet are you on?

As for Loeb, we will see how he adapt to Italian rubber in 2008. For the last 4 years Loeb has enjoyed superior car and tyre combination.

[Mauri A]

This is for Finns. Remember what our former President said about getting provoked!

[vilamoura2007]

World Rally Championship 2007 (Leg 2 - PE 9)part 1 - March the 31st
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Jm0mWFZSqs

Next parts will be online in some minutes from now.

[Finni]

In my view Loeb has very good chance to win Finland. I suspect that with C4 he will be stronger than with the Xsara. We don't if Ford's new evolution is ready for Finland and yet we don't know if it's any better than the current one. I think that C4's key for Finland is strong straight speed and acceleration - that means much in Finland.

It's very difficult to build faster car in current rallying. It seems that for instance the C4 has been only marginally faster than the old-mother-Xsara.

[A.F.F.]

This is for Finns. Remember what our former President said about getting provoked!

I hear you Mauri.

It just hit me anyways. NOT is like an elevator music. Same s h i t t y song and always on the background.

Doesn't bother me anymore :)

[Woodeye]

This is for Finns. Remember what our former President said about getting provoked!

Oh, I know. It's just that I quitted smoking two days ago and I'm really pissed at the moment.

[Erki]

Oh, I know. It's just that I quitted smoking two days ago and I'm really pissed at the moment.

Now I thin it's safe to say that when a puupää starts smoking, he really IS a puupää. :eek:

[Erki]

Now I thin it's safe to say that when a puupää starts smoking, he really IS a puupää. :eek:

To think more about it... who pissed on you? :eek:

[Mauri A]

What´s the weather in Algarve now? Are the clouds pissing on rallycars?

[White Sauron]

Well)) Wilslow is faster than gronholm on the first run...

[N.O.T]

I hear you Mauri.

It just hit me anyways. NOT is like an elevator music. Same s h i t t y song and always on the background.

Doesn't bother me anymore :)

yup, exactly, but just like that elevator music...you cannot do anything about it, and it always gets in your head....

[N.O.T]

Well)) Wilslow is faster than gronholm on the first run...

the stage is dry then i guess....

[jonkka]

Dum-dum-dum-li-dum-laa...

[jonkka]

Lots of GPS problems again. Or are Gigi and Carlsson off?

[jonkka]

That's more like it, JM. Sordo under fire...

[seph]

Oh, Dani, what happened??? Come on!!!

[White Sauron]

Oh, Dani, what happened??? Come on!!!

just hope the same happens to Loeb))

[Mauri A]

just hope the same happens to Loeb))
Not fair!

[jonkka]

just hope the same happens to Loeb))

And it does... :eek:

[Finni]

Loeb now slower

[Simmi]

Its hardly that unfair to wish a rival driver to be slow on a stage

[N.O.T]

We might have a battle after this one opnce again .....Loeb is losing a bit.

[seph]

Well, Loeb's just a few seconds slower, man...

[Donney]

Loeb is doing similar times to Solberg,....

[jonkka]

And has been faster towards the end anyway so keep your thumbs up

[jonkka]

Dani is reported to be driving with door open :eek:

[Finni]

Nah, Loeb strike back.. he did unbelievably the last split.

[Donney]

Maybe he checked Gronholm's split times.

[Corny]

Marcus said Seb choose the better tyre on the last boucle.. What a surprise!

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Sordo with problems?

[N.O.T]

Ah ok...order is being restored again....

[Christina]

oohh.. Problems for Sordo! Dani over 22.5 seconds slower than Jari-matti. this could get interesting!

Problems with both doors on the Citroen.

[jonkka]

Problems with both doors on the Citroen.

Since Carlsson is on Citroen too, does that mean he's driving rear door open? :eek:

[Donney]

Both doors!!!! That's surprising!

[Finni]

bad tendency for winning battle..

[Christina]

Since Carlsson is on Citroen too, does that mean he's driving rear door open? :eek:

Well if you think about the fact that i was talking about dani sordo (citroen driver) and his problems on the stage, do you think i was referring to the doors of Daniel Carlsson?

[jonkka]

Just an insider joke about swedish people, CTina... :eek:

[N.O.T]

Loeb wins the stage....

[Simmi]

Must be gauling for Gronholm to see his advantages slashed by Loeb. He ALWAYS seems to have something in reserve.

[seph]

Loeb wins the stage....

I think he dedicates it to all this people that got happy when he lost five seconds at the beginning of the stage. lol.

[Mauri A]

A comment from Timo Rautiainen in Finnish TV: The last part of the stage is not so fast as the first part. Kristian Sohlberg commented that because C4 is slightly more powerful, that may explain the difference in the last half of the stage. Explanation, you may believe, or not.

[Corny]

Marcus reporting Seb has got harder (better) tyres..

This makes me angry, somehow

[jonkka]

Explanation, you may believe, or not.

I am inclined towards the "not" (not N.O.T.), especially since it comes from K. Sohlberg.

[Mauri A]

I am inclined towards the "not" (not N.O.T.), especially since it comes from K. Sohlberg.
It wasn´t from Kari O. !!

[jonkka]

Kari O. I would believe but not Kristian.

[Mauri A]

Kari O. I would believe but not Kristian.
Nice yo see that somebody still has faith in us seniors!

[jonkka]

:)

[jonkka]

Henning, to pass Carlsson or no? I reckon yes, quite likely.

[jparker]

Henning, to pass Carlsson or no? I reckon yes, quite likely.

I don't see splits for Carlsson.

[Mauri A]

Latvala. A tiny off again?

[jonkka]

Same for Marcus at split 2? :eek:

[jonkka]

And Sordo faster than Latvala...

[jonkka]

Looks like it's all over...

[jonkka]

People have lost their interest, I am alone in here? :eek:

[ZequeArgentina]

things are getting clear, not many position fights, Loeb is gaining more tiem and getting a little more confortable for tomorrow stages. Any way, championship will get interesting (Drivers, as manufacturers still ford has advantage)

Edit: Carlsson and Hening do have a fight!!!

[Woodeye]

People have lost their interest, I am alone in here? :eek:

yep. it's only you left in here.

I just have to say that Seb is like a machine. Looks quite unstobbable at the moment.

[Mauri A]

Game over, I´ll quit.

[Woodeye]

+14 secs!? Now it's over.

[jparker]

things are getting clear, not many position fights, Loeb is gaining more tiem and getting a little more confortable for tomorrow stages. Any way, championship will get interesting (Drivers, as manufacturers still ford has advantage)

Edit: Carlsson and Hening do have a fight!!!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is if Gronholm is few seconds ahead it's all exiting, if Loeb is leading it's all boring?

[Erki]

Looks like this one is sealed now. Next please. :)

[Christina]

Marcus and mikko saying that their tyres are "finished"

[Erki]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is if Gronholm is few seconds ahead it's all exiting, if Loeb is leading it's all boring?

Where do you get that impression? Bosse is now over half a minute down, i.e. practically knocked out.

[ZequeArgentina]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is if Gronholm is few seconds ahead it's all exiting, if Loeb is leading it's all boring?

Not exactly. But in this rally it would be very interestying if at this stage of the rally Seb would be 15 seconds back from Gronholm, and chasing him.

Anyway, I do not get bored, I just stand up and clap my hands for Loeb, he is a very compelte driver doing what he knows best, manage the rally from the lead

[ProRally]

A comment from Timo Rautiainen in Finnish TV: The last part of the stage is not so fast as the first part. Kristian Sohlberg commented that because C4 is slightly more powerful, that may explain the difference in the last half of the stage. Explanation, you may believe, or not.

I Krisse giving comments on Finnish TV ?

[vilamoura2007]

Weather is good. No rain. Sky clear.
World Rally Championship 2007 (Leg 2 - PE 9)part 2
online now.
Next parts will be online later.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzUyEKLRGk

[Tomi]

I Krisse giving comments on Finnish TV ?

yes, free advertising :)

[jparker]

Where do you get that impression? Bosse is now over half a minute down, i.e. practically knocked out.

My comment was in general.
After all we had close fight for almost 2 days.

[N.O.T]

Loeb beat those two ford kids like sick dogs without an owner.....he makes perferction look easy....

[Roy]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is if Gronholm is few seconds ahead it's all exiting, if Loeb is leading it's all boring?

This win of Loeb can be exiting of the rally title. But... He wins so many. Its getting boring and I am afraid for the sport. Mikko, J-M, Petter and others can't match him. Only Gronholm (sometimes) But he is leaving this yaer (i think).
It will be tough for the sport, if nobody can cath him.

So if Loeb is win and win again, thats is boring. If gronholm next rallioes win is even boring. I like it as Ford fan, but is not good for the sport. We need many good fast drivers in this sport. That is the future. Not one single man who wins everyting.

[ProRally]

yes, free advertising :)
:laugh: :laugh: Red Devil anyone ? :laugh: :laugh:

[MHjerpe]

SS13 is going on and no one cares about it :)

[Simmi]

No first split for Mikko. Hopefully just a GPS problem.

[ZequeArgentina]

no second split either

[Miika]

SS13 is going on and no one cares about it :)

Not even that elevator music around either..

[Simmi]

Phew Mikko in. 2.8 down on Petter

[ZequeArgentina]

just GPS p`roblem, he is safe and at a logic rithm, 2 seconds down peter

[Erki]

What happened to Atkinson?

[pino]

No many cares anymore because unfortunatelly for us rally-fans, Loeb is killing the champ...again :(

[N.O.T]

went off....

[Kamikaze]

Here it is again, that strange Elevator-music :rolleyes:

[White Sauron]

went off....

With all my respect to Seb, after all these years of his domination I'd like your words were related to him...

[MHjerpe]

Well that's it for today... hope something happens tomorrow... (DC catching up henning ) :)

[Wim_Impreza]

No many cares anymore because unfortunatelly for us rally-fans, Loeb is killing the champ...again :(

Marcus will be leading the championship after tomorrow if the standings stays so.

[ZequeArgentina]

Well that's it for today... hope something happens tomorrow... (DC catching up henning ) :)

And Peter getting Mikko

[White Sauron]

Marcus will be leading the championship after tomorrow if the standings stays so.

What's more important Citroen won't get any closer to Ford with this result!)))

[pino]

Marcus will be leading the championship after tomorrow if the standings stays so.

Yes...due to that stupid point-system ;)

[jparker]

No many cares anymore because unfortunatelly for us rally-fans, Loeb is killing the champ...again :(

Not really, it's just the way WRC works, someone has to be a winner and usually that's the team with best package. Citroen has the better package, and Ford are entitled to improve and try to change that. It's as simple as that I'm afraid, whether you like it or not.

[White Sauron]

Yes...due to that stupid point-system ;)

No. Because Ford has the best-balanced and fast-everywhere line-up.

[Roy]

Classifications after Rally Portugal (not count leg 3)

Gronholm 40
Loeb 38
Hirvonen 32
Sordo 17
Solberg H 13
Solberg P 13
Latvala 9
Carlsson 7
Stohl 6
Gardemeister 5
Galli 3
Kopeckey 2
Wilson 1

BP-Ford 72
Citroen-Total 57
Stobart-Ford 24
Subaru 24
OMV-Citroen 18

Great performance of Stobart. In third place!

[pino]

Not really, it's just the way WRC works, someone has to be a winner and usually that's the team with best package. Citroen has the better package, and Ford are entitled to improve and try to change that. It's as simple as that I'm afraid, whether you like it or not.

Yes I know that very well, but when someone wins for too long and in the way Sebastien does, for most of the fans, it's boring...whether you like it or not ;)

[Tomi]

Yes I know that very well, but when someone wins for too long and in the way Sebastien does, for most of the fans, it's boring...whether you like it or not ;)

agree, if the win would be better revarded drivers would not give up so easy and secure points.

[ZequeArgentina]

Have you noticed that Super 2000 (at least Magalhaes with the 207) is not much faster than S1600 (AAva or Andersson´s Suzukis), actually they are even equal, and this is gravel!.

and for refference we have Flodin in a "normal" N4, who shows the 207 is going at good N4 rithm

[Simmi]

In his 74 WRC car outings Loeb's average points score has been 6.4 points. That's what it averages out at despite him only ever coming third twice.

That shows why people are so down about the WRC due to this mans dominance. I just hold my hands up and say he is a truely brilliant driver. Portugal should be another rally to add to his amazing CV.

[René]

Atkinson off road !

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqyQ1MdcNb8

[jparker]

Yes I know that very well, but when someone wins for too long and in the way Sebastien does, for most of the fans, it's boring...whether you like it or not ;)

I like it either way. Despite the fact that I sound like Loeb's fan, I'm not. In fact I don't support any driver exclusively.
The important question here is, how do you change Loeb's domination?

[Simmi]

Atkinson off road !

ttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqyQ1MdcNb8

Atko was quite lucky that accident could have been a lot worse if there was a steeper drop or rocks etc.

[Helstar]

Atkinson off road !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqyQ1MdcNb8
Weird, it seems he got incoherent notes ... arrived flat out in that left corner down there.
What a crash ... they rolled multiple times and landed many meters away the point of impact ^^ phew.

[René]

For sure it seems like really hight speed ! :eek:

[N.O.T]

With all my respect to Seb, after all these years of his domination I'd like your words were related to him...

Yes its a nice way to show your incopetence as a person and as a character....you are like all these little pathetic guys who wish others to make mistakes so you can be on top rather than stepping up your game....its easier to expect others to do the work for you than to achieve something by yourself....

well we cannot all be perfect....can we ???

[White Sauron]

Yes its a nice way to show your incopetence as a person and as a character....you are like all these little pathetic guys who wish others to make mistakes so you can be on top rather than stepping up your game....its easier to expect others to do the work for you than to achieve something by yourself....

well we cannot all be perfect....can we ???

Yeah, sure. Just like you. Supporting the strongest at the moment and then switching in your support to a driver who looks stronger is the perfect way of showing your competence. How long have you been Loeb's fan? Oh, no, what am I saying, you can't be a fan of any driver. just cause you don't support their driving abilities. When Gronholm was dominant in 2002, he was your favorite, now it's Loeb' turn. I won't be surprised if, when Mikko becomes a new champ, you'll be cheering for him, even though now you're calling him a lil kid, who can't cantinue the golden era of finnish rallying!!

[Corny]

Yes I know that very well, but when someone wins for too long and in the way Sebastien does, for most of the fans, it's boring...whether you like it or not ;)

Nah...

When Mäkinen won his four titles in a row, it was not really boring uh! He didn't win everything in his years, and he got his championships in years where he had tears and champain..

That's the problem with Loeb, we don't care if he will be champion for the next 10 years, but let the rallies be interesting! let the championship be interesting, when that's the fact you here no one complain about the boring Loeb/Citroën..

[Tomi]

I dont understand you guys really, why whining all the time if Loeb wins, every win has came by driving this year so whats the problem.

[Miika]

"Aika entinen ei koskaan enää palaa.."

[Tomi]

"Aika entinen ei koskaan enää palaa.."
varmaan palaa, onhan näitä ollu ennenkin, silloin tällöin.

[White Sauron]

"Aika entinen ei koskaan enää palaa.."

good words. totally agree. But we shouldn't miss about past, we should better look into the bright future.

[Roy]

"Aika entinen ei koskaan enää palaa.."


varmaan palaa, onhan näitä ollu ennenkin, silloin tällöin.


good words. totally agree. But we shouldn't miss about past, we should better look into the bright future.

Yeah! off course, sure, ok. :rolleyes:
The WRC is like an Open Finland/Suomi Championship. ;) But this is a national forum. Can you translate?

Ik snap er helemaal niks van! :confused:

[Miika]

Meaning the times have changed and we won´t have the kind of battles in WRC we had in the past.

[Miika]

Meaning the times have changed and we won´t have the kind of battles in WRC we had in the past.

[White Sauron]

Yeah! off course, sure, ok. :rolleyes:
The WRC is like an Open Finland/Suomi Championship. ;) But this is a national forum. Can you translate?

Ik snap er helemaal niks van! :confused:

Miika said that we the past time will never return.

[Tom206wrc]

BP-Ford 72
Citroen-Total 57
Stobart-Ford 24
Subaru 24
OMV-Citroen 18

Great performance of Stobart. In third place!




The most funny is that Subaru team refused Kronos Citroën team some more testing because they were threatened by the private belgian team, and finally there would be another team to start to make them bite the dust !!! :laugh:

[Madeira]

Have you noticed that Super 2000 (at least Magalhaes with the 207) is not much faster than S1600 (AAva or Andersson´s Suzukis), actually they are even equal, and this is gravel!.

and for refference we have Flodin in a "normal" N4, who shows the 207 is going at good N4 rithm
Bruno Magalhães in the last two SS was in safe mode because today's result counts like a single round of Portuguese Championship and so that he has scored 10 points for the championship.

[N.O.T]

Yeah, sure. Just like you. Supporting the strongest at the moment and then switching in your support to a driver who looks stronger is the perfect way of showing your competence. How long have you been Loeb's fan? Oh, no, what am I saying, you can't be a fan of any driver. just cause you don't support their driving abilities. When Gronholm was dominant in 2002, he was your favorite, now it's Loeb' turn. I won't be surprised if, when Mikko becomes a new champ, you'll be cheering for him, even though now you're calling him a lil kid, who can't cantinue the golden era of finnish rallying!!

My favourite driver was Kankkunen, when he retired Burns took his place....don't have a favourite since then....but Loeb has my respect, i don't support him but i am not bothered if he wins by pure driving skills. never really supported Gronholm but i enjoyed when he was dominant even and though he was beating Burns never wished to crash.

[Miika]

According to MTV3 the officials are suspecting that Marcus´car is under-weight and could be excluded - not official yet.

[DonJippo]

Not the first time with Ford...

[Subaru WRX]

seems that Subaru is once again far from a 1st victory with the new Impreza '07, anyway its by far quiker than the foolish 2006 model

[Tom206wrc]

According to MTV3 the officials are suspecting that Marcus´car is under-weight and could be excluded - not official yet.



I have also read the news from Autosport Portugal( http://www.autosport.pt )... :s

[N.O.T]

seems that Subaru is once again far from a 1st victory with the new Impreza '07, anyway its by far quiker than the foolish 2006 model

the thing is why waste all these millions for developing a new car just to be faster than the old one but still slower than the competition ?? They could achieve such results with the older model.

[Waldrons11]

I have also read the news from Autosport Portugal( http://www.autosport.pt )... :s

Marcus just out of the stewards meeting, he's been cleared!!

[Madeira]

Portuguese tv announced right now!
Everything is ok with Marcus's Ford, he will start tomorrow!

[Subaru WRX]

the thing is why waste all these millions for developing a new car just to be faster than the old one but still slower than the competition ?? They could achieve such results with the older model.
sorry but the 2007 Impreza is a brand new car, and for sure it has a great potential, as for the 2006 model, it was horrible and very slow, even the privateer Peugeot and Skoda teams were quiker than the SWRT :p

[N.O.T]

sorry but the 2007 Impreza is a brand new car, and for sure it has a great potential, as for the 2006 model, it was horrible and very slow, even the privateer Peugeot and Skoda teams were quiker than the SWRT :p

a cars potential is shown out of the box i think...look at the C4 and also when the new ford was introduced...both cars were winners....you cannot gain too much once out of the factory...maybe a few seconds but that will not make a winner out of the new subaru...especially when Ford is preparing to introduce a new evolution soon.

[Subaru WRX]

for sure both Ford and C4 were winners from the begining, but give the Prodrive and STi guys some times to improve the car and we will see !

[vilamoura2007]

World Rally Championship 2007 (Leg 2 - PE 12)part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTqf6VyGZCw

[Grany]

Marcus just out of the stewards meeting, he's been cleared!!

I wonder how would have been the members of this board if that had happen with Loeb...

[N.O.T]

Half of them would cry and the other half would accuse the citroen team of bribing the officials....

[MHjerpe]

Soo another day... and they are leaving the Parc Ferme now...

[Bruno Portela]

Good morning everybody!!!!

[Catiocha7]

Good morning everybody!!!!
Morning :)

[MHjerpe]

1 April today... is it only in Sweden we have 1 April jokes ?

[Helstar]

1 April today... is it only in Sweden we have 1 April jokes ?
Nope they are everywhere ! Look out =)

[MHjerpe]

What are they talking about on the Radio ?

[jparker]

Rally Radio says, big news comming up, but they can't say what yet.

[jparker]

Bosse excluded maybe?

[MHjerpe]

All Fords excluded.... !





































Bad April Joke.... :)

[White Sauron]

Bosse excluded maybe?

no, his underweight is legal

[jparker]

no, his underweight is legal

We'll see. I hope tha radio is not pulling our legs with April 1 jokes.

[Bruno Portela]

no, his underweight is legal

:) :) :)

I'm listening to the portuguese radio, and there's no big news

[MHjerpe]

It's al about Bosses underweight... and he is not exlcuded... (yet)

[Bruno Portela]

It's showtime, Armindo Araujo allready on the ss

[Bruno Portela]

Armindo is loosing time to Slowilson

[MHjerpe]

henning +2 split 1 to dc....

[Helstar]

Seems that Gigi finally found a correct setup (or tyre choose) ... already yesterday in the afternoon good times. It's encouraging in the prospect of the other rallies (all on gravel ^^) too.

[Bruno Portela]

Armindo is loosing time to Slowilson

But still in front of him. He has changed his setup during the night and used this ss to test the new setup.

Promised to go faster on the next stage!!

[Bruno Portela]

Seems that Gigi finally found a correct setup (or tyre choose) ... already yesterday in the afternoon good times. It's encouraging in the prospect of the other rallies (all on gravel ^^) too.


My cousin is watching the rally and he told me that the most spectacular driver was Galli.

[MHjerpe]

henning stopped ?

[MHjerpe]

no there is the split

[Helstar]

My cousin is watching the rally and he told me that the most spectacular driver was Galli.
Good ... bad thing is that Gigi is going to retire because of unfixable brakes failure (oil leak). Oh Dear.

[Bruno Portela]

Good ... bad thing is that Gigi is going to retire because of unfixable brakes failure (oil leak). Oh Dear.


Why the hell does he need the brakes???? :) :)

[Helstar]

Why the hell does he need the brakes???? :) :)
Yes sometimes he forgets to use them xD
I think he will cruise to the service ...

Let's see him in action on a previously published youtube link ... ;_;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dzUyEKLRGk

[pino]

Morning Guys :D

[Wim_Impreza]

Best time for Hirvonen.

[malscar]

Morning Pino.

[jonkka]

Morning, pile

[Bruno Portela]

What's wrong with the estonian splits????

[pino]

My splits don't work...how about yours ?

[jonkka]

Nope, they're out

[MHjerpe]

zone.ee down :( this seems to work though... http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=5&stage=15&rally=Portugal

[DonJippo]

Nothing wrong with my splits :D

[pino]

Nothing wrong with my splits :D

And...who's leading ? :p :

[jonkka]

What's wrong with Henning, he's been losing out to DC

[HG_Lancer]

hello all

i suggest BFG site, Hirvo won ss14, he now 26 secs over Solberg

[René]

You have this site too ! working nicely : http://wrc.ergo.pri.ee/splits.htm

[Helstar]

Seems that Gigi fixed the brakes... or he really doesn't use them xD

[Koppomsbo]

Good morning all, any intresting fights to follow today or can i go back to bed :D

[Wim_Impreza]

Good morning all, any intresting fights to follow today or can i go back to bed :D

There are unfortunately not really interesting fights.

[Koppomsbo]

bah, as usual then, lets see if PG can close the gap to Aava

[CABAIO E'LONA]

1 Loeb
2 Gronholm à 48"5
3 Hirvonen à 1'58"1
4 Solberg à 2'35"7
5 Sordo à 4'34"6
6 Latvala à 5'16"4
7 Carlsson à 7'32"3
8 Solberg à 7'57"

[Xeroid]

No one in the top 14 has moved, the gaps are to big to close before last stage and unless someone has an 'off' it's gone all boring again.
Might as well go to bed ....

[Wim_Impreza]

Carlsson is today much faster than Henning.

[ste898]

I cannot see how there is any interest in this one horse race.....no wonder the viewing figures are down.
I certainly wont be watching this pile of ****e as I did'nt watch Mexico!!!!

[Woodeye]

:s nore:

[White Sauron]

Well, we easilly judge the interest to a rally. During Norway it was almost impossible sometimes to log on this forum or to post anything. Now this forum is fast as asual... Show everything...

[MHjerpe]

If they only could bring tha whole WRC live to the webb... cameras and everyting... you can choose wich car you want to see incar from... live.. and can jump around the cars... and there are some cameras walking around the service place all the time also broadcasting live on the web... all splits and times, footage and gps maps should be free... no stupid wrc+ and things like that..

[Peugeot206WRC]

Carlsson is today much faster than Henning.

Im little disappointment at him, I thought he would be much faster with the Xsara than what he shown so far this year. He only drive safe and dont pushing for better positions, he want the get to the finish (maybe he realised he cant handle the speed yet).

But on the other hand he has no experience with the Xsara on gravel at all and its his first gravel rally in a long time. Also he said it was very difficault driving on the wet gravel (yesterday).

Another thing I wonder is how Stohl can be so bad this year when he had 1 great year in the Pug and one good in the Xsara earlier, is the car so much bader then the Pug already???

[Peugeot206WRC]

If they only could bring tha whole WRC live to the webb... cameras and everyting... you can choose wich car you want to see incar from... live.. and can jump around the cars... and there are some cameras walking around the service place all the time also broadcasting live on the web... all splits and times, footage and gps maps should be free... no stupid wrc+ and things like that..

Imagine what that would cost for them :D
Or loosing money for the tv rights, when everybody watch it on the webb instead

[vilamoura2007]

World Rally Championship 2007 (Leg 2 Final)part 4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYB876jTCOU

[vilamoura2007]

World Rally Championship 2007 Summary
All uploaded videos

http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Elvio2007

[MHjerpe]

Imagine what that would cost for them :D
Or loosing money for the tv rights, when everybody watch it on the webb instead

Just an idea to get more ppl to follow the sport... put in comersials here and there in it too... free is the keyword...

[Peugeot206WRC]

Just an idea to get more ppl to follow the sport... put in comersials here and there in it too... free is the keyword...

Yes im sure more people would follow the sport then.
It would only have positive things with something like this free.
But I think something like this would never happen, it would cost them a lot and they thinking to much on money to make something like this.
I think even with a sponsor and commercial breaks you would have to pay to watch it, thats them.

[Xeroid]

If they put enough decent coverage on it might be WORTH paying for it. At present the price they ask ( especially after exchange rates down here ) make it not even worth considering.

[jonkka]

What do you make out of this?
http://www.google.com/tisp/

[MHjerpe]

seems to be april at google to :)

[Koppomsbo]

:laugh:

[jonkka]

Rather good, don't you think?

[Koppomsbo]

shouldnt the cars be on stage now?

[MHjerpe]

They are..

[vilamoura2007]

Leg 3 - 1st of April - will be online in 5 minutes time.

[Peugeot206WRC]

They are..

Not Jari Matti, hes talking about cooking and cleaning at home, and teaching.. ?

[Christina]

is that why wilson and araujo are on stage now?

[Wim_Impreza]

Im little disappointment at him, I thought he would be much faster with the Xsara than what he shown so far this year. He only drive safe and dont pushing for better positions, he want the get to the finish (maybe he realised he cant handle the speed yet).

But on the other hand he has no experience with the Xsara on gravel at all and its his first gravel rally in a long time. Also he said it was very difficault driving on the wet gravel (yesterday).


His speed is a bit disappointed this year, but he brings the car every time to the finish and every time in the points. He drove this rally the last 3 years too and won in 2005. I expected much more, but maybe he will show better speed when he knows the car better on gravel. Compared to Stohl, he is the first man of the Kronos team.

[vilamoura2007]

World Rally Championship 2007 Leg 3 part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bddtggh8tMg

[Koppomsbo]

No first split for Mikko??

[jonkka]

But 2nd so all is ok

[Koppomsbo]

ah there he is

[vilamoura2007]

No first split for Mikko??

Mikko is on leg 3 video ;)

[Peugeot206WRC]

Anyone know why Loeb is using different helmets all the time, in Mexico I even saw him wearing that "F1" helmet with cover over the mouth and in next stage he got the one that only covers half of the mouth...

[MHjerpe]

oh ohh.. henning...

[pentti]

Anyone know why Loeb is using different helmets all the time, in Mexico I even saw him wearing that "F1" helmet with cover over the mouth and in next stage he got the one that only covers half of the mouth...It depends how hot it is.

[Koppomsbo]

auch what happend to Henning

[Koppomsbo]

PG only 4,6 sec after Aava now!!!! Something to look for at the last stages :bounce:

[pino]

what happened to Henning ? :s

[Peugeot206WRC]

It depends how hot it is.

Are you sure?
I thought the heavier one was for getting more weight on the car and get grip so he can drive faster and get much cover of the head if he crash.
The other one is maybe for gliding around the stage and just keeping the place.

[Koppomsbo]

Are you sure?
I thought the heavier one was for getting more weight on the car and get grip so he can drive faster and get much cover of the head if he crash.
The other one is maybe for gliding around the stage and just keeping the place.



:laugh:

[pentti]

Are you sure?
I thought the heavier one was for getting more weight on the car and get grip so he can drive faster and get much cover of the head if he crash.
The other one is maybe for gliding around the stage and just keeping the place.I am sure you are right. Thanks for correcting my wayward thinking.

[vilamoura2007]

Stadium Algarve is prepared for "Super Special" and it's getting full right now.
FIA commented that this World Rally is the best of all times.

[vilamoura2007]

Armindo stopped. I hope he can put the car on the road again.

[Peugeot206WRC]

I am sure you are right. Thanks for correcting my wayward thinking.

haha
But in the end, the heat thing seems more probable

[Doon]

On SS17, it looks to me that Wilson has had a very fast last split! He has made time on everyone bar Gronholm, whats that about?!

[Peugeot206WRC]

On SS17, it looks to me that Wilson has had a very fast last split! He has made time on everyone bar Gronholm, whats that about?!

The accelerator pedal probably got stuck on full speed.
Or maybe theres something wrong with the splits?

2 secs behind P Solberg on a 22km stage, a one time occurrence.

[Koppomsbo]

Something wrong with Flodin or is just Aava and Pg pushing REALY hard ?

[Koppomsbo]

Waaaao PG flew past Aava :up:

[Doon]

The accelerator pedal probably got stuck on full speed.
Or maybe theres something wrong with the splits?

2 secs behind P Solberg on a 22km stage, a one time occurrence.

I reckon this is a sign of things to come! ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

is the coverage live on wrc+ yet?

[Christina]

zone.ee splits are not working.. splits are still stuck on the last stage.

[GigiGalliNo1]

w00t! enjoying the wrc+ tina? :p

[PatRedmond]

Just an idea to get more ppl to follow the sport... put in comersials here and there in it too... free is the keyword...

Would certainly get more audience over here in North America

[White Sauron]

What's happening over there? WHy Hirvonen or Latvala or Solberg so slow? Are they making any tricks?

[MHjerpe]

Latvala stalled the engine in the super special..

[White Sauron]

Latvala stalled the engine in the super special..

yeah, thanks, read it from BF now. And Solberg drove on 2 cylindres

[leno]

has anyone any pics from atko crash?

[Wim_Impreza]

Andersson wins the JRC with only 3,7 seconds before Aava.

[vilamoura2007]

Armindo Araujo had technical problems and is out of race.

1.M. GRÖNHOLM (FIN)32 Pts
2.S. LOEB (F)28 Pts
3.M. HIRVONEN (FIN)26 Pts
4.D. SORDO (E)13 Pts
5.H. SOLBERG (N)11 Pts
6.C. ATKINSON (AUS) 10 Pts
7.P. SOLBERG (N)8 Pts
8.J. LATVALA (FIN)6 Pts
9.D. CARLSSON (S)6 Pts
10.T. GARDEMEISTER (FIN)5 Pts
11.M. STOHL (A)5 Pts
12.G. GALLI (I)3 Pts
13.J. KOPECKY (CZ)2 Pts
14.M. WILSON (GB)1 Pts


World Rally Championship 2007 Leg 3 Final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmR5BpBHboU

I will upload Super Special later on.
Keep in touch.


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[jonas_mcrae]

god new there, some good competition!!

[gloomyDAY]

has anyone any pics from atko crash?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iWS6pb6kiY

I don't know how it happened. Chris received the correct notes, but still managed to eat the grass on the side of the road.

[leno]

Here is the reason why Atko went off:

We started the stage (SS10) pretty well but in hindsight I was thinking too much about the feeling, and not concentrating on the road. I missed a corner note, got on the wrong line and just went straight off.

More you can read on swrt.com

[m.lowe]

Loeb is the master, while the rest are his servants

[kakus]

The classification is suspended, because the investigation continues concerning Ford and one Mitsubishi.
Décision in the hours to come.

http://www.rally-live.com/wrc/fr/accueil/news2.shtml

( In french )

[animrallye]

Following a report by the FIA Technical Delegate, cars Nos 3, 4, 9, 10, 16 23 and 70 are under investigation by the Stewards for a possible breach of technical regulations.